Episode 8

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:00:06. > :00:15.After years of financial boom-and- bust, his football finally about to

:00:15. > :00:25.put its house in order? Tonight, you can judge for yourselves.

:00:25. > :00:27.

:00:27. > :00:31.Enough is enough, with their game heading for financial meltdown, it

:00:31. > :00:35.is time to put the end to demand gloom. I don't know how many clubs

:00:35. > :00:40.are insolvent at it -- insolvent out of the 72 in the Football

:00:40. > :00:45.League, but I think it is his huge percentage. We have a new segment

:00:45. > :00:48.on the FIFA Fair Play rules and how they will impact the game. We will

:00:48. > :00:52.say a reduction in players' salaries going forward.

:00:52. > :00:58.And is this man the answer to England's prayers? It is time for

:00:58. > :01:01.you to have your say on the great Grant Holt debate.

:01:02. > :01:06.Yes, good evening, good to have you with us. A packed programme once

:01:06. > :01:12.again, including highlights of today's B game in League Two,

:01:12. > :01:19.Southend taking on cruelly. That B game. Perry Groves with me tonight,

:01:20. > :01:25.nice to see you on time. Also with me, Adrian Forbes, currently of

:01:25. > :01:30.Lowestoft Town. Good evening. First, no fewer than a quarter of

:01:30. > :01:34.the country's 92 clubs have entered administration in recent years,

:01:34. > :01:37.including a fair few in this part of the world, but are we about to

:01:37. > :01:40.see an end to the boom-and-bust culture in the game? That is the

:01:40. > :01:47.plan as financial fair-play rules come into the Football League from

:01:47. > :01:57.next season. John Upton Park report. next season. John Upton Park report.

:01:57. > :01:58.

:01:58. > :02:02.They form a huge part of any local community, with thousands of fans,

:02:02. > :02:06.hundreds of staff, football clubs spend millions in search for

:02:06. > :02:11.success. When it goes right, no one complains. But when it goes wrong,

:02:11. > :02:16.it is the local committee that suffers. The administration period,

:02:16. > :02:26.while difficult for all involved, will give stability to the club in

:02:26. > :02:32.

:02:32. > :02:37.What state you think footballers in at the moment? What state? I think

:02:37. > :02:41.Football League chairman -- the Football League chairman was very

:02:41. > :02:44.clear, awful. I doubt there how many clubs are insolvent out of the

:02:44. > :02:48.72 in the Football League but I should think it is a huge

:02:48. > :02:54.percentage. It is long overdue but football is finally waking up.

:02:54. > :03:01.Financial fair play is coming and not a moment too soon. Uefa are

:03:01. > :03:05.driving financial fair play. Their total or the big clubs in Europe,

:03:05. > :03:11.what they spend and what they make. The income for all of depression

:03:11. > :03:14.that professional clubs is �10 billion across Europe but

:03:14. > :03:18.expenditure is �12 billion. It is unstable and something has to

:03:18. > :03:22.change. What is proposed is that for next season, clubs in the

:03:22. > :03:27.Championship, including Ipswich and Peterborough, would work to a new

:03:27. > :03:34.breed even model, were they can only spend what they make. -- break

:03:34. > :03:39.even. If not, they can face fines and bans. The Revenue we generate

:03:39. > :03:43.has to match the expenditure that we spend on behalf of the club.

:03:43. > :03:48.There is a level of deviation that is allowed, certainly for the first

:03:48. > :03:53.6-8 years and that will be reduced year on year. The implications of

:03:53. > :03:56.not breaking even within that deviation figure means that clubs

:03:56. > :04:02.will be fined and that money will then be distributed among the other

:04:02. > :04:06.clubs. How does it affect a club like Ipswich, who have historically

:04:06. > :04:11.live beyond their means? Last count, there debt was �66 million.

:04:11. > :04:17.How sustainable is Ipswich? Bury sustainable. We are very fortunate

:04:17. > :04:21.to have it usually supportive owner in the form of Marcus Evans -- very

:04:21. > :04:24.sustainable. His desire to support the team and to build a team here

:04:24. > :04:31.that can take promotion through to the Premiership at the earliest

:04:31. > :04:34.opportunity has not waved one iota other than a -- last few seasons.

:04:34. > :04:38.Stevenage are a club hoping to be playing in the Championship next

:04:38. > :04:44.season and are also hoped that also helped by a wealthy owned it. Phil

:04:44. > :04:48.Wallace has been but -- running them for years, and there are a

:04:48. > :04:52.model for most. The chairman has to earn the trust of fans by making

:04:52. > :04:57.the right decisions and not putting the club into bankruptcy and not

:04:57. > :05:07.going down that slippery road. That is not easy, because fans want to

:05:07. > :05:08.

:05:08. > :05:10.win. It is funny, but share men want to win as well. -- chairman.

:05:10. > :05:13.It worries me to see some of the Premier League finances, because

:05:13. > :05:17.they are relying on the past and hoping that the future is going to

:05:17. > :05:22.be as successful. When you look at clubs like Man City, they want to

:05:22. > :05:26.buy the lead. Look at Crawley, they want to buy the lead. But do they

:05:26. > :05:30.have the financial backing to keep them solvent? There is one area

:05:30. > :05:34.where football clubs can make big savings, the players. They might

:05:34. > :05:41.have to get used to live where salaries become more realistic.

:05:41. > :05:45.is going to have to impact players' salaries going forward but speaking

:05:45. > :05:48.to Peers across the Championship, everybody is facing this and what

:05:48. > :05:54.we will definitely see is the reduction in players' salaries

:05:54. > :05:57.going forward. Are you ready for salaries to drop? I think you have

:05:57. > :06:01.got to have in the back of your mind that it may have to drop but

:06:01. > :06:04.as a player, you should be paid watch you feel you deserve. Again,

:06:05. > :06:08.this is football, it is the business and it is not fair on the

:06:08. > :06:12.fans to see clubs going into administration and having financial

:06:12. > :06:17.difficulties, but as a player, you have got things that you need take

:06:17. > :06:23.care of two. The need to lower player wages is obvious. It

:06:23. > :06:27.Ipswich's case it is around 80% of their entire turnover. Clubs like

:06:27. > :06:32.Southend are already restricted by a salary cap, which restricts the

:06:32. > :06:35.player wages to 60% of turnover. Next year, clubs in League One will

:06:36. > :06:39.introduce a similar model. So financial fair play is here to stay,

:06:40. > :06:43.but on its way out it seems is the football creditors rule, which

:06:43. > :06:46.allows clubs and players to be paid in full if the team for some two

:06:46. > :06:56.administration, while other creditors have to accept a fraction

:06:56. > :06:56.

:06:56. > :07:00.of what is owed. If you took that away, it fire and then playing a

:07:00. > :07:03.team in the FA Cup and I know they are insolvent -- if I am then

:07:03. > :07:06.playing a team in the FA Cup and I know they are insolvent and they

:07:06. > :07:13.are taking my share of the money, how am I going to feel if I have

:07:13. > :07:16.not been paid for months? I don't know how football can operate

:07:16. > :07:20.effectively if the football creditors role is removed. Equally,

:07:20. > :07:24.would I sell a player to another club on a 12 month instalment plan

:07:24. > :07:27.if I thought they wouldn't pay? will find the most successful clubs

:07:27. > :07:31.and football are the ones without too many changes behind the scenes

:07:31. > :07:36.and they will deal with the evolving landscape best. Players

:07:36. > :07:40.and agents might be the biggest losers. Few will complain on the

:07:40. > :07:44.terraces if football manages to balance the books.

:07:44. > :07:48.Adrian, in this region, Ipswich and Northampton amongst others have all

:07:48. > :07:53.gone into administration but you were at Luton when they had their

:07:53. > :07:56.financial problems. Yes, a very difficult time. I was playing

:07:56. > :08:00.first-team football, regular football, but I also had a family

:08:00. > :08:05.to support, so the players at that moment in time were getting no

:08:05. > :08:11.money from the club. The none at all. How did that go on -- how long

:08:11. > :08:14.did that go on? It was just shy of the year, I actually left and went

:08:14. > :08:19.to Swansea before recouping any of the money. So you went a whole year

:08:19. > :08:24.before you were paid? Physically no money coming in, say you need an

:08:24. > :08:30.understanding bank manager and have any funds behind Jude... And an

:08:30. > :08:35.understanding wife! Supposedly they were living outside their means.

:08:35. > :08:39.Definitely. And what we heard there is a good idea. Luton is a great

:08:39. > :08:43.club and that was obviously the case then and it was fundamental

:08:43. > :08:47.errors made upstairs that forced the club into administration. I

:08:47. > :08:50.keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen to the club again.

:08:50. > :08:57.Do you think the financial fair play a role will make any

:08:57. > :09:00.difference? I'm a bit sceptical. They said from 6-8 years, you have

:09:00. > :09:06.implemented and I don't think all clubs will go for it. But it.

:09:06. > :09:10.Average players earning big money. The top players will still earn big

:09:10. > :09:14.money -- it will stop average players. But something has to be

:09:14. > :09:17.done, because we have seen Portsmouth, Rangers, Port Vale,

:09:17. > :09:22.they have all suffered financial problems in recent weeks. Something

:09:22. > :09:24.has to be done. I don't see why football is different to any other

:09:24. > :09:30.business, any other business running insolvent we wouldn't be

:09:30. > :09:34.able to trade. If you want to buy a football club, but a big deposit

:09:34. > :09:40.down and if you get in financial trouble, you use that and you get

:09:40. > :09:44.your deposit back like if you buy a house. Let's look at the current

:09:44. > :09:47.fortunes of the team on the pitch. Actually, back to off the pitch

:09:47. > :09:51.problems with Jimmy Bullard and Michael Chopra at Ipswich, of

:09:51. > :09:56.course. Both of them had a bit of a night out, one has been fined, one

:09:56. > :09:59.has been suspended. What you make of that? One is very important to

:09:59. > :10:02.the team and the other is on the periphery. It doesn't surprise me

:10:02. > :10:06.they have been treated differently because it happens in football

:10:06. > :10:09.clubs. It was sanctioned night out by Marcus Evans and both of them

:10:09. > :10:13.decided to find their own entertainment elsewhere and

:10:13. > :10:17.obviously, their alarm clocks didn't go off. Had you think they

:10:17. > :10:20.will react in the dressing room? think the lads will know what is

:10:20. > :10:24.going on and they will know why the manager has made the decision with

:10:24. > :10:28.regards to the punishment he has given. If you look at Michael

:10:28. > :10:32.Chopra, it is well-documented with the trouble he has had with his

:10:32. > :10:36.life outside of football and taking football away from him, different

:10:36. > :10:38.people react in different ways and I think that that situation, it is

:10:38. > :10:44.I think that that situation, it is easier to keep him playing. Baby

:10:44. > :10:50.Paul Jewell got it spot on, because he got the opening goal. It was his

:10:50. > :10:56.100 Club goal as well, so... That is Michael Chopra or smacking it

:10:56. > :11:02.over the crossbar but this is his first goal. A good cross and

:11:02. > :11:07.Michael Chopra puts them 1-0 up. Tommy Smith played for New Zealand

:11:07. > :11:13.in the week, at 24,000 mile round trip. He got a goal as well.

:11:13. > :11:23.Unbelievable. He is like Villiers fob, I wouldn't mind having his air

:11:23. > :11:26.

:11:26. > :11:31.form. They have won five out of six and they seem to be going in the

:11:31. > :11:35.right direction. It was documented early in the season that they

:11:35. > :11:39.didn't have a good time. Paul Jewell came on and they couldn't

:11:39. > :11:43.win, but now everything seems to be going to plan. And there is that

:11:43. > :11:49.man, Tommy Smith. It was a good delivery from the corner from Andy

:11:49. > :11:52.Drury. He has not been offered a contract, I know he wants to stay.

:11:52. > :11:58.They will get inside. This was probably the goal of the game,

:11:58. > :12:01.Michael Chopra laying it off and no chance for David James. We recent

:12:01. > :12:03.form will be tested tomorrow against Southampton, the league

:12:03. > :12:06.against Southampton, the league leaders. Southampton are a tough

:12:06. > :12:10.task for anyone at the moment and they are looking very comfortable

:12:10. > :12:20.for promotion, but Ipswich will be full of confidence and it will be

:12:20. > :12:24.

:12:24. > :12:29.an interesting 90 minutes. Let's That is not too bad for Ipswich.

:12:29. > :12:37.Five wins out of six. They have turned around their home form. It

:12:37. > :12:43.is -- as an Ipswich fan, you would be happy. Ipswich play Southampton.

:12:43. > :12:50.Ricky Lambert, a former team-mate of Grand hold, wants to emulate him.

:12:50. > :12:53.There is a big debate, do you think he should be called up? Well, for

:12:53. > :12:59.me, the England team, it is going through a transitional period at

:12:59. > :13:03.the moment. Stuart Pearce came out and said he wanted to pick a

:13:03. > :13:13.younger squad. I would say that he deserves an opportunity at the

:13:13. > :13:18.

:13:18. > :13:28.moment because he is scoring goals. bustling centre-forward. I just

:13:28. > :13:31.

:13:31. > :13:41.think that at international level, We asked for your response on

:13:41. > :14:05.

:14:05. > :14:10.Well, there is a selection of your tweets. Kevin Davies played for

:14:10. > :14:14.England. Yes. The only thing I would say with Grant told is this

:14:14. > :14:18.his first season in the Premier League, and you get your first

:14:18. > :14:25.season free. In the next season, if he does the same, he will have a

:14:25. > :14:29.better claim. And what about John Ruddy? He has had a superb season.

:14:29. > :14:32.His performances have been superb. You wonder whether Norwich is a

:14:32. > :14:38.smaller club at the moment. A few of their players have been

:14:38. > :14:47.overlooked. Grant Holt, Paul Lambert wasn't quite sure he could

:14:47. > :14:52.play. Yes, but John Terry was given a torrid time at Carrow Road. Grant

:14:52. > :14:55.Holt has improved. The jury is out until next dear. Back to the

:14:55. > :15:05.Championship and football. Peterborough went to Crystal Palace

:15:05. > :15:11.

:15:11. > :15:16.and a disappointing result for them score a lot of goals. Tyrone Barnet,

:15:16. > :15:21.he looks lively. Yes, and he gives them a bit of pace. He has got a

:15:21. > :15:27.lot of confidence. That is a decent save. If you are playing up front

:15:27. > :15:31.with Peterborough, they have had good chances. They are 10 points

:15:31. > :15:37.clear of the relegation but it is one win in 10. They need to find

:15:37. > :15:44.their form quickly. They are playing at home in next eight

:15:44. > :15:47.matches. You make your home therefore Trust. The fans are the

:15:47. > :15:54.12th man. That can be the difference in promotion or

:15:54. > :16:04.relegation of. Paul Jones, he gets caught up. He hasn't got to punch

:16:04. > :16:06.

:16:06. > :16:09.his highest point. So Crystal The games that are left, it is do-

:16:09. > :16:15.able, if they can concentrate on their home form and see how many

:16:15. > :16:18.drawers they can take. Star Tin tomorrow night. He is their fixture.

:16:19. > :16:23.Peterborough play Millwall and Ipswich would that tough test away

:16:23. > :16:27.at Southampton. Commentary will be on BBC local radio.

:16:27. > :16:31.Still to come, action from tonight's big clash at the top of

:16:31. > :16:35.League Two, Southend and Crawley, but first, a word about Sport

:16:35. > :16:40.Relief. Mr O'Leary? Speed King. Or would

:16:41. > :16:49.you like to do the Sport Relief Mile? I'm sorry. I am doing one

:16:49. > :16:52.already. If only you had called me yesterday. You will? A brilliant!

:16:52. > :17:00.Whole you do your support mile with?

:17:00. > :17:04.You can do the mile or the shirt of heard. We have done this before. It

:17:04. > :17:10.is you have to wear the opposition's shirt. A driven, you

:17:10. > :17:15.have to wear and Ipswich showed. What do you reckon? You can pay a

:17:15. > :17:22.forfeit. Perry, I have got one for you. Weren't you were that? Are I

:17:22. > :17:28.would rather set my head on fire. - - I would rather have. I will put

:17:28. > :17:35.money in the kitty rather than where this Norwich shirt. I haven't

:17:35. > :17:45.even looked down at this showed. League One. MK Dons. A valuable

:17:45. > :17:48.

:17:48. > :17:54.point. They had so many people go to. You can see the empty bench.

:17:54. > :17:58.Luke Chadwick does really well. He gets a shot off and hits the post.

:17:58. > :18:02.It is a difficult place to go, because you know you have to be in

:18:02. > :18:10.the game. Kyle was on the show and he was bullish about automatic and

:18:10. > :18:15.getting into that second place. Do you fancy they can do that? They

:18:15. > :18:19.have got the ability and the players, if the players stay fit.

:18:19. > :18:27.Obviously, you've got to keep going and keep pushing until it is

:18:27. > :18:35.mathematically impossible. They like their set pieces. Yes. A great

:18:35. > :18:44.free-kick from Sean Williams. And then Chadwick, again, unlucky.

:18:44. > :18:50.They are suddenly pushing for that second spot. They have got the

:18:50. > :18:54.train back on the rails and they are playing with confidence. Luke

:18:55. > :19:02.Chadwick, he is experienced, Alyn Smith. This is the table. They have

:19:02. > :19:09.six points away from Sheffield Wednesday. That second spot is up

:19:09. > :19:16.for grabs. Notts County, of the teams around them, managed to win

:19:16. > :19:21.their game, so it was a big point at Hartlepool. Stevenage, a point

:19:21. > :19:26.outside the play-offs. They got a decent point at Exeter. They were

:19:26. > :19:36.fighting for their life. They come up against the goalkeeper who

:19:36. > :19:38.

:19:38. > :19:43.played for marriage. -- who played for Norwich.

:19:43. > :19:49.Did you play for him? Is a played with him. His career has been

:19:49. > :19:56.superb. Gary Smith said they paid the price for his slow start. And

:19:56. > :20:06.they did. Poor defending. Getting completely mixed up. It is a

:20:06. > :20:08.

:20:08. > :20:14.brilliant goal. Superb technique and volley. Van Persie. It is not

:20:14. > :20:18.difficult but superb finish. Stevenage are in the blue strip.

:20:18. > :20:23.Maybe they should have won it. They got an equaliser against

:20:23. > :20:29.Huddersfield. It was a good point but they haven't won Maxim's the

:20:29. > :20:33.Spurs game. Has that affected them much? -- they have and won since

:20:33. > :20:37.the Spurs game. They need to get their confidence back in and they

:20:37. > :20:42.need to get back into their goalscoring ways. And Stevenage,

:20:42. > :20:47.their season, and the last couple of years, amazing. They must be

:20:47. > :20:51.looking forward to their game at Spurs. Looking at them years ago,

:20:51. > :20:56.to have them clam up, to play against Tottenham is superb. You

:20:56. > :21:01.hope it doesn't distract from their league form. Confirmation of that

:21:01. > :21:05.game away at Spurs on Wednesday. Good luck to them. To Colchester

:21:05. > :21:12.and the return of an old friend, Graham Westley, the Preston manager

:21:12. > :21:22.now. He is struggling, though. has won one out of seven. He likes

:21:22. > :21:23.

:21:23. > :21:29.his team to play physically. John Ward take some credit here. It was

:21:29. > :21:37.a shock that Freddie was left on the bench. Now, handball?

:21:37. > :21:41.Absolutely not. Let's see it, slow- motion. I don't see what he is

:21:41. > :21:51.supposed to do their. He does have his hand there, but he was very

:21:51. > :21:51.

:21:51. > :21:56.hard done by. Steven Gillespie, he is -- his 8th goal of the season.

:21:56. > :22:03.This is a breakaway. Preston are pressing, great movement between

:22:03. > :22:08.Bond and Hearn doesn't. Goal of the week? I would say so. They have

:22:08. > :22:13.taken a bit of stick in the past. That was brilliant. Tommy has come

:22:13. > :22:19.of age. He is starting to show his form. Some players, they can start

:22:19. > :22:23.at a certain club but it doesn't do it for them. But they go on to

:22:23. > :22:29.progress massively. Games coming in thick and fast and a big test for

:22:29. > :22:37.them tomorrow away at Charlton, the league leaders. MK Dons at home to

:22:37. > :22:45.Yeovil. For -- full commentary on BBC. There is no pressure on

:22:45. > :22:52.Colchester. If Freddie Sears goes back again, I wouldn't be surprised.

:22:52. > :22:59.He has pace. Northampton, 2-0 up at Cheltenham, you fancy they will get

:22:59. > :23:05.three points, but it wasn't to be. A specially going 1-0 up so quickly.

:23:05. > :23:11.Obviously, they scrambled the goal at far post from Ben Tozer. Things

:23:11. > :23:15.were looking good. Akinfenwa were, he out muscles Alan Bennett and

:23:15. > :23:20.gets his 12th of the season. feels as fit as he has been for a

:23:20. > :23:25.while. I played with him, and I know him, and he definitely looks

:23:25. > :23:34.after himself! A transfer three. That one needs to go in. That

:23:34. > :23:43.should have been an. But he censored in deeper. Johnson, he

:23:43. > :23:48.told Aidy Boothroyd in the face... They have had one clean sheet in 24

:23:48. > :23:51.games, that is the problem. You can score all them goals, but if you

:23:52. > :23:59.are going to leak as many goals as that, you are going to be in

:23:59. > :24:07.trouble. You just need your players to keep

:24:07. > :24:12.a cool head, and that was panic stations. Cheltenham had not

:24:12. > :24:18.conceded four 5.5 hours. So that is a big point for Northampton. They

:24:18. > :24:25.cannot afford to get cut off at the bottom. They are three points off

:24:25. > :24:31.safety, Dagenham & Redbridge. Akinfenwa's goals might keep the

:24:31. > :24:35.mark. Tomorrow night, a massive game at home to Bristol Rovers.

:24:35. > :24:42.They need the goals. Just to put pressure around the teams around

:24:42. > :24:47.them. So Northampton have got to build on their draw off. At the top

:24:47. > :24:50.end, Southend's winner saw them return to the top three. Charlton

:24:50. > :25:00.could go a second if they beat Crawley tonight. Here is how it

:25:00. > :25:06.

:25:06. > :25:11.1-0 defeat at Torquay. A wet and windy Knight, posing some problems.

:25:11. > :25:16.The visitors made the first impression. Billy Clarke, just wide

:25:16. > :25:24.of the post. It would be an eventful evening for both Clarke

:25:24. > :25:30.and Bulford. Chances few and far between in a scruffy 45 minutes.

:25:30. > :25:34.Southend's first opening was midway through the first half. South

:25:34. > :25:38.Kent's on loan under 19 international with a good patch

:25:38. > :25:43.after the throw and a sharp shot on the turn. United struggling to find

:25:43. > :25:48.their rhythm for long periods and nearly paying the price for a

:25:48. > :25:54.sloppy pass intercepted by Scott Davies. A good save. Harris could

:25:54. > :26:00.have made amends moments later, breaking clear, but he pulled this

:26:00. > :26:08.effort wide. No goals at half-time. The game then burst into life on

:26:08. > :26:15.the hour. Crawley awarded a penalty. The goalkeeper booted out the shot.

:26:15. > :26:20.Chris Buckler handball on the line. The Shrimpers skipper was sent off.

:26:20. > :26:30.Southend down to 10. Barker could have few complaints. Latent

:26:30. > :26:31.

:26:31. > :26:35.handball. Clarke took the penalty. It was saved. A big let-off for the

:26:35. > :26:42.Shrimpers, but full credit to the keeper on loan from Bury and in

:26:42. > :26:47.tremendous form. Southend down to 10 and reduced to nine when

:26:48. > :26:53.substitute Liam Dickinson was hurt shortly after coming on. Dickinson

:26:53. > :26:59.will have three -- one of three players disciplined recently, he

:26:59. > :27:02.damaged his ankle. He was stretchered off. This was a big

:27:02. > :27:06.blow for the run-in and Southend having used all three substitutes

:27:06. > :27:12.were down to nine. Desperate defending in the closing stages,

:27:12. > :27:19.but they kept the visitors at bay. But finished 0-0. Sow them stay

:27:19. > :27:28.third and maintain a gap between themselves and Crawley. And the

:27:28. > :27:34.A great performance by Kim. It looked like Crawley were going to

:27:34. > :27:38.win that. He carried on his form from Saturday. They won 2-0. That

:27:38. > :27:45.is his second clean sheet. It is a good time to be having that

:27:45. > :27:50.defensive quality. We hope that injury isn't too serious. He is the

:27:50. > :27:54.top scorer. He has got 12 goals this season. He did twist his ankle

:27:54. > :27:59.badly but fingers crossed from Southend's point of view he won't

:27:59. > :28:03.be out too long. The fixtures, they are not too bad between now and the

:28:03. > :28:08.end of the season. They have got to Cheltenham, Torquay and Oxford.

:28:08. > :28:16.They are the best of waiting in the division. It is looking good for

:28:16. > :28:22.them. -- the best away. They are looking good. I am quietly

:28:22. > :28:27.confident. And Lowestoft? Could they get promoted? We RFU points of

:28:27. > :28:34.the top with a few games in hand so fingers crossed we can be there are.