:00:09. > :00:20.Tonight we meet the family with one of the best names in football, we
:00:21. > :00:33.reveal things about them and of course, there's Barry Fry. He's the
:00:34. > :00:42.top scorer in League One following in his father's foot steps, we meet
:00:43. > :00:46.team Assombalonga. We've all the highs and lows after a
:00:47. > :00:47.weekend of what might have beens, the margin between success and
:00:48. > :00:53.the margin between success `nd failure has close as ever.
:00:54. > :00:57.And the late kick off fans panel is back, talking finance with genuine
:00:58. > :01:02.fears for the future of our cash`strapped clubs.
:01:03. > :01:07.We were probably living beyond our means and that's cost us in the end
:01:08. > :01:13.and we are struggling now month`to`month to sort of exist
:01:14. > :01:16.really. Hello. Good evening. We'll also be
:01:17. > :01:19.Hello. Good evening. We'll `lso be assessing Norwich City's survival
:01:20. > :01:22.chances with the thoughts of a couple of Canary legends later.
:01:23. > :01:29.First, happy St Patrick's D`y to First, happy St Patrick's D`y to
:01:30. > :01:37.Paul McVey who's been out of St Patrick's by Barry Fry. What a suit!
:01:38. > :01:43.I came here supporting Paul on St Patrick's Day. Can't believd I
:01:44. > :01:48.didn't bring my green suit. It was either that or a Jock strap.
:01:49. > :01:53.Assombalonga some was on lo`n either that or a Jock strap.
:01:54. > :01:56.Assombalonga some was on lo`n at Braintree Town, now he's
:01:57. > :02:00.Peterborough's best signing, close to scoring 30 goals already this
:02:01. > :02:11.season and whenever he plays, his family are always watching.
:02:12. > :02:17.Meet the Assombalongas, the team behind one of the most feared
:02:18. > :02:24.strikers in League One. Do xou strikers in League One. Do xou
:02:25. > :02:28.always come here to support Kriss? Yes, you are supposed to support
:02:29. > :02:36.your son. When he play good, you are happy. For me, it's special time to
:02:37. > :02:44.come here. Every time different. 20 years ago, dad was leading the line
:02:45. > :02:46.for the then Zahir, 42 caps. But with Civil War looming, he wanted a
:02:47. > :02:51.better life. He took his falily to better life. He took his falily to
:02:52. > :02:57.the UK, it's proved a shrewd move. Two decades on, Kriss is following
:02:58. > :03:01.in his father's footsteps. Sometimes in our country, there was trouble
:03:02. > :03:07.there. That's when I said no, I want to bring my children to get a good
:03:08. > :03:10.education. You are an ex`international footballer
:03:11. > :03:12.yourself? Yes. When I was in my team, I was famous. You were
:03:13. > :03:14.yourself? Yes. When I was in my team, I was famous. You werd a
:03:15. > :03:19.famous man? Yes. No`one knows you here though, do you? No, but in my
:03:20. > :03:22.country everyone does. You guys go home with your dad? No. So xou don't
:03:23. > :03:24.home with your dad? No. So you don't know if he's just spinning xou a
:03:25. > :03:31.know if he's just spinning you a story!
:03:32. > :03:36.What was life growing up `` life like growing up? We grew up on a
:03:37. > :03:39.housing estate. A council estate. We were exposed to a lot of things.
:03:40. > :03:42.were exposed to a lot of thhngs That allowed us to gain knowledge
:03:43. > :03:44.and experience, especially with me being the older brother, having two
:03:45. > :03:46.sisters and a younger brothdr. being the older brother, having two
:03:47. > :03:51.sisters and a younger brother. I had to be able to set an exampld. Our
:03:52. > :03:56.brother is so humble, he realises brother is so humble, he re`lises
:03:57. > :04:00.and he's grateful for where he is at the moment and there's not one
:04:01. > :04:04.second or a minute for him to be able to talk things for granted. He
:04:05. > :04:10.sticks to things and works hard and he knows he has the family backing
:04:11. > :04:12.and support that he sees. When we come and watch him play, that
:04:13. > :04:12.and support that he sees. When we come and watch him play, th`t gives
:04:13. > :04:16.come and watch him play, that gives him the drive and motivation to
:04:17. > :04:18.carry on and to succeed and to reach the high level which we lovd to
:04:19. > :04:22.carry on and to succeed and to reach the high level which we love to see
:04:23. > :04:23.him play in the Premier League. Five minutes from kick off, what is going
:04:24. > :04:26.through your mind? This time, minutes from kick off, what is going
:04:27. > :04:31.through your mind? This timd, no problem. Two minutes before kick
:04:32. > :04:39.off, I get nervous. Sweating, every game. Good feeling in my heart.
:04:40. > :04:43.game. Good feeling in my he`rt. Whilst team Assombalonga watch
:04:44. > :05:06.nervously, let's hand you to the action.
:05:07. > :05:16.The referee says play on. It's in the back of the neck. It was three
:05:17. > :05:28.or four yards out... Goal! Goal! . ! Goal!
:05:29. > :05:31.Assombalonga danger now. Assombalonga shoots against David
:05:32. > :05:36.Martin. Not picked up by the Peterborough player. Was it a
:05:37. > :05:41.penalty? It's a penalty. Assombalonga over it right`footed.
:05:42. > :05:51.Shoots and scores. And Peterborough are leading here at Stadium MK and
:05:52. > :05:55.it's a brace for Assombalonga! So MK Dons are Assombalongadd
:05:56. > :05:56.it's a brace for Assombalonga! So MK Dons are Assombalongaed by
:05:57. > :05:59.it's a brace for Assombalonga! So MK Dons are Assombalongadd by the
:06:00. > :06:06.26thth goals of the season. One happy striker and one happy family.
:06:07. > :06:10.At the start of the season I said I'm going to go and see how it goes.
:06:11. > :06:16.Now, that man standing there reckons that all your natural ability comes
:06:17. > :06:20.from him? ! Yes, he was a great scorer so obviously he's passed it
:06:21. > :06:22.down to me. Tell me how it feels to have this level of family stpport
:06:23. > :06:27.behind you? Just to know that they behind you? Just to know that they
:06:28. > :06:29.come to every game, just to have that support, knowing that they are
:06:30. > :06:30.watching you, away or at hole, that support, knowing that they are
:06:31. > :06:37.watching you, away or at home, it's watching you, away or at home, it's
:06:38. > :06:41.the best thing. Paul is joined by Barry tonhght
:06:42. > :06:45.the best thing. Paul is joined by Barry tonight. Who
:06:46. > :06:49.found some Britta Assombalonga? I found him in Southend. I went to
:06:50. > :06:55.watch Dwight Gail who was stb in the watch Dwight Gail who was stb in the
:06:56. > :06:59.last 22 minutes. I found the chairman afterwards and said, you
:07:00. > :07:03.have got to sign him and also you've got to sign Britt. I told the
:07:04. > :07:08.gaffer, he had him watched, we all had him watched. It took me six
:07:09. > :07:18.months to get him from Watford. And you paid a fair price? ?1.2 million
:07:19. > :07:21.over several budget years, but Juan Luca at Watford didn't want him to
:07:22. > :07:25.go and I had to stay over at the training ground to get the deal
:07:26. > :07:31.done. It was well worth it. What is it about the way he plays that means
:07:32. > :07:37.he scores so many goals? He's so powerful a player and clearly a
:07:38. > :07:39.great finisher. As Barry well knows, he gambles whenever something
:07:40. > :07:47.happens. For instance, whendver he gambles whenever something
:07:48. > :07:52.happens. For instance, whenever you see his team`mates pike the ball up,
:07:53. > :07:57.it's the reaction. Britta Assombalonga is up there, that's why
:07:58. > :08:02.he's got that many goals. You heard from his father there. When you see
:08:03. > :08:07.a player, you will probably see an agent, but not a much or dad
:08:08. > :08:11.usually? We spoke to the manager of Southend and he said he's a lovely
:08:12. > :08:15.boy and he said he wants to listen, learn and improve all the time.
:08:16. > :08:18.Lovely boy, lovely family, but he's also got a good agent who's Gareth
:08:19. > :08:24.Bale's agent and that was dhfficult Bale's agent and that was dhfficult
:08:25. > :08:26.to deal with as Elle as well. From a Peterborough perspective,
:08:27. > :08:31.From a Peterborough perspective it's been difficult keeping them in
:08:32. > :08:35.the play`offs. The fact that there's that six point gap now and they have
:08:36. > :08:38.a goal in hand and they are away to Rotherham next week. But because
:08:39. > :08:43.they have got that better goal difference as well, it's more or
:08:44. > :08:45.less just that is hope hopefully, Baz, that should be secure hn your
:08:46. > :08:47.Baz, that should be secure in your play`off place? He's the le`ding
:08:48. > :08:53.play`off place? He's the leading goal scorer in the country. How much
:08:54. > :09:00.is he worth? ! ?8.4 million, but I'm hoping to get that up. Only that
:09:01. > :09:04.much and only a few months of the season left. Top`to`bottom of League
:09:05. > :09:12.One, tension is building with six points separating knife`point clubs
:09:13. > :09:15.in the fight to avoid `` separating nine clubs in the fights for the
:09:16. > :09:22.top. It's just so difficult for the
:09:23. > :09:24.teams. This will hurt the Colchester fans even more. The former Hpswich
:09:25. > :09:28.fans even more. The former Ipswich player playing it through for Jones.
:09:29. > :09:33.It was a great finish but it's just so difficult because they are not
:09:34. > :09:38.scoring goals. They might h`ve a decent defensive record, but this
:09:39. > :09:41.sums them up. Sanchez off the cross bar and it's those sort of chances
:09:42. > :09:48.and it's fine lines and margins The and it's fine lines and margins The
:09:49. > :09:54.substitute hit the post and that's the problem. The fine lines, you
:09:55. > :09:59.know, that can define. An afternoon of success or failure, unbelievable.
:10:00. > :10:04.Colchester beat us earlier on in the season and Joe looked to have a real
:10:05. > :10:07.good season. He's had horrendous injuries. He's investing in youth as
:10:08. > :10:10.well, has that cost him? Th`t's injuries. He's investing in youth as
:10:11. > :10:14.well, has that cost him? That's been the main problem, the injurhes.
:10:15. > :10:18.the main problem, the injuries. We'll see what that means at the
:10:19. > :10:21.foot of the table, but first a valuable point for Stevenagd
:10:22. > :10:23.foot of the table, but first a valuable point for Stevenage against
:10:24. > :10:25.struggling Carlisle. What's been the difference for tell evenage? The
:10:26. > :10:27.fact since Graham's been thdre, difference for tell evenage? The
:10:28. > :10:30.fact since Graham's been thdre, it's all about the fitness. Everybody
:10:31. > :10:31.all about the fitness. Everxbody knows his teams will be like
:10:32. > :10:33.all about the fitness. Everybody knows his teams will be likd that.
:10:34. > :10:40.They come strong in the second half of the season and also Chris Day had
:10:41. > :10:44.an absolute blinder on Saturday with a couple of great shots there and
:10:45. > :10:47.another one from Lee Miller wide of the post. I think what the
:10:48. > :10:52.difference is is just that fitness. It's going to make all the
:10:53. > :10:57.difference. That is going to be the difference. Nobody wants to pay ..
:10:58. > :11:02.difference. Nobody wants to pay... What is it about Graham? He gets the
:11:03. > :11:06.boys fit, you know, they cover every blade of grass, they are very, very
:11:07. > :11:09.difficult to play against. St Thomas' teams `` some teams like to
:11:10. > :11:11.pass the ball around, Grahal Thomas' teams `` some teams like to
:11:12. > :11:15.pass the ball around, Graham likes pass the ball around, Grahal likes
:11:16. > :11:23.to... Get in your face, get you off the game. Let's have a look at the
:11:24. > :11:26.bottom half of the table. It was opposite for Stevenage before
:11:27. > :11:33.Christmas? You see that and you think they are so close to get
:11:34. > :11:36.themselves out. Tranmere Rovers are expecting them to make their way up
:11:37. > :11:43.the table, so they are on the edge, not out of it just yet but feel like
:11:44. > :11:46.they have a great chance. MK Dons comes up this Saturday as well?
:11:47. > :11:49.they have a great chance. MK Dons comes up this Saturday as wdll? That
:11:50. > :11:51.will be important for them. A huge one on Saturday as well? A
:11:52. > :11:54.16`pointer tomorrow night, xou one on Saturday as well? A
:11:55. > :11:58.16`pointer tomorrow night, xou know! Shrewsbury second bottom.
:11:59. > :11:59.Unbelievable. Plenty still to come, including the fighted for survival
:12:00. > :12:15.in the Premier League. It is confusing for the players. One
:12:16. > :12:23.voice and then trying to change tactics in the middle of a season.
:12:24. > :12:28.To the championship and a sobering thought for the fans of Ipswich
:12:29. > :12:32.Town, which club has surrendered more points from winning positions
:12:33. > :12:38.than any other club? You have got it, Ipswich. They have squandered 28
:12:39. > :12:40.points from winning positions according to a report. Why hs it
:12:41. > :12:44.according to a report. Why is it going wrong? It is a diffictlt
:12:45. > :12:47.going wrong? It is a difficult question. Mick McCarthy must be
:12:48. > :12:52.tearing his hair out. When xou have tearing his hair out. When you have
:12:53. > :12:58.got that lead you work so h`rd to get it. Maybe it is fitness. I find
:12:59. > :13:03.the statistics amazing. Mick McCarthy knows the game inside out.
:13:04. > :13:10.He is the best man to get Ipswich back in the Premiership. For the
:13:11. > :13:16.record, if Ipswich had held onto the 28 points, they would be top of the
:13:17. > :13:20.table right now, a frightening facts. One of those defeats came in
:13:21. > :13:24.the 2`1 home defeat against Leicester when they took an early
:13:25. > :13:28.lead before losing the game. If they kept just half of the lost points,
:13:29. > :13:37.14, they would be in third instead of ninth. It was the same old story
:13:38. > :13:39.against Wigan Athletic. That is the problem, how many points thdy
:13:40. > :13:39.against Wigan Athletic. That is the problem, how many points they could
:13:40. > :13:43.problem, how many points thdy could have had from the start of the
:13:44. > :13:51.season, but when you see this, Ipswich taking the lead. A great
:13:52. > :13:53.finish into the top corner. But it is Ipswich fans who have sedn
:13:54. > :13:57.finish into the top corner. But it is Ipswich fans who have seen this
:13:58. > :14:03.so many times. It has been difficult for them. Wigan Athletic thd
:14:04. > :14:03.so many times. It has been difficult for them. Wigan Athletic the form
:14:04. > :14:06.for them. Wigan Athletic thd form team in the country. They are doing
:14:07. > :14:08.unbelievably well in the league team in the country. They are doing
:14:09. > :14:10.unbelievably well in the le`gue and unbelievably well in the le`gue and
:14:11. > :14:15.the Cup. That is the thing with James McLean, he scored his first
:14:16. > :14:17.goal for Wigan and as soon as Ipswich drawback level and for the
:14:18. > :14:18.Ipswich fans, they will hate Ipswich drawback level and for the
:14:19. > :14:25.Ipswich fans, they will hate to this goal. As soon as you go to` one down
:14:26. > :14:33.it is almost like the same old story. You have to give credit to
:14:34. > :14:41.Wigan. Playing so well. James Maclean, fellow Irishman, that same
:14:42. > :14:46.old story. They have taken the lead, 1`0 up, and they are losing 3`1. It
:14:47. > :14:48.1`0 up, and they are losing 3`1 It is so difficult. Even if they
:14:49. > :14:48.1`0 up, and they are losing 3`1. It is so difficult. Even if thdy had
:14:49. > :14:53.is so difficult. Even if they had half those points, they could have
:14:54. > :14:56.been sitting in third. It is a big problem. Such a thin line between
:14:57. > :14:59.success and failure. There `re success and failure. There are
:15:00. > :15:02.bigger teams, arguably, with bigger squads.
:15:03. > :15:05.bigger teams, arguably, with bigger Yes, bigger finances, bigger
:15:06. > :15:07.everything. I think Mick has done an amazing job but I think he is
:15:08. > :15:07.everything. I think Mick has done an amazing job but I think he hs the
:15:08. > :15:09.man to take them to the promised man to take them to the prolised
:15:10. > :15:12.land. And Brighton, next, five land. And Brighton, next, fhve
:15:13. > :15:16.points the gap. It's huge, this next couple of weeks. They are going to
:15:17. > :15:17.find out one way or another in the next few weeks? Brighton is a form
:15:18. > :15:19.team as well. They have come next few weeks? Brighton is a form
:15:20. > :15:21.team as well. They have comd up from team as well. They have comd up from
:15:22. > :15:27.nowhere and they have a gre`t chance. They have a game in hand, as
:15:28. > :15:30.well. Barry, thanks for now. Here's another statistic which will not do
:15:31. > :15:33.much to warm the cockles of Shrimpers followers. Southend now 11
:15:34. > :15:36.games without a win and, despite that, they are still in the play`off
:15:37. > :15:39.places. A fact manager Phil Brown for one admits he can't unddrstand.
:15:40. > :15:42.Can anyone understand it? To be honest, it is a case of problems
:15:43. > :15:49.with their goal`scoring record. They are not scoring enough goals. What
:15:50. > :15:52.the good thing they do have is Daniel Bentley, the goalkeeper, has
:15:53. > :15:57.had 14 clean sheets. You've got to say that is one good thing. But it
:15:58. > :16:00.has been such a poor game at the weekend. This shot. Placing it well
:16:01. > :16:04.over the bar. That's been the problem. They are not clinical
:16:05. > :16:06.enough in front of goal. We talked about Dan Bentley the goal, he is
:16:07. > :16:10.making saves. .He's had a lhttle about Dan Bentley the goal, he is
:16:11. > :16:13.making saves. .He's had a little bit making saves. .He's had a little bit
:16:14. > :16:14.of bad luck over the past couple of weeks, but he is making savds.
:16:15. > :16:14.of bad luck over the past couple of weeks, but he is making saves. Kevin
:16:15. > :16:16.weeks, but he is making savds. Kevin Hurst, again, cutting in, has
:16:17. > :16:18.weeks, but he is making saves. Kevin Hurst, again, cutting in, h`s a
:16:19. > :16:24.shot. He scored a few goals this season, but, still not really doing
:16:25. > :16:28.enough. Look at that table, Barry. They haven't won in 11 games and
:16:29. > :16:29.they are still there. If I was Phil, I'd be delighted, because you've got
:16:30. > :16:31.a real chance. they are still there. If I was Phil,
:16:32. > :16:33.I'd be delighted, But it's very difficult for him to sort out what
:16:34. > :16:42.the problem is, otherwise hd'd have the problem is, otherwise he'd have
:16:43. > :16:44.put it right by now. You'd think someone like Phil Brown has had
:16:45. > :16:46.enough experience, the fact he's been in the Premier League. Nigel
:16:47. > :16:47.Worthington, York City, came from Worthington, York City, camd from
:16:48. > :16:48.nowhere, just behind him. been in the Premier League. Nigel
:16:49. > :16:50.Unbelievable. On Friday they been in the Premier League. Nigel
:16:51. > :16:56.Unbelievable. On Friday thex have Bristol Rovers. They've got to find
:16:57. > :16:59.something from somewhere. They have got to have a win, no matter how
:17:00. > :17:02.they get it, they've got to change their luck. To the ongoing saga that
:17:03. > :17:04.is the problems for Northampton Town. It doesn't matter what they
:17:05. > :17:07.do, they have a fantastic run going, do, they have a fantastic run going,
:17:08. > :17:08.Chris Wilder's side. 1`1 with Mansfield, six games unbeaten,
:17:09. > :17:12.Mansfield, six games unbeatdn, Barry. What is the magic of Chris
:17:13. > :17:22.Wilder at the moment? He's doing something special. He's certainly
:17:23. > :17:23.giving them a chance becausd something special. He's certainly
:17:24. > :17:25.giving them a chance because when giving them a chance becausd when
:17:26. > :17:27.Adie left they looked dead `nd buried, but Chris has come in and
:17:28. > :17:30.buried, but Chris has come hn and done a good job. He'll be
:17:31. > :17:33.disappointed to only get a point out of this game. They deserved to win
:17:34. > :17:34.it. Another vital game tomorrow they've got at home to Rochdale.
:17:35. > :17:35.it. Another vital game tomorrow, they've got at home to Rochdale It
:17:36. > :17:36.was a penalty. A straight red they've got at home to Rochdale. It
:17:37. > :17:38.was a penalty. A straight rdd card. was a penalty. A straight red card.
:17:39. > :17:41.I'm not sure if that's a controversial decision from the
:17:42. > :17:43.referee. But, maybe sometimes, when you are at the bottom of thd
:17:44. > :17:47.referee. But, maybe sometimds, when you are at the bottom of the table,
:17:48. > :17:48.that's not the luck you get. The fact that Darren Carter... H
:17:49. > :17:48.that's not the luck you get. The fact that Darren Carter... I know
:17:49. > :17:50.this guy very well, he playdd fact that Darren Carter... H know
:17:51. > :17:51.this guy very well, he played for this guy very well, he playdd for
:17:52. > :17:52.Birmingham City, scored the winning penalty in the play`off final
:17:53. > :17:56.penalty in the play`off fin`l against Norwich City. Any man
:17:57. > :17:56.penalty in the play`off final against Norwich City. Any m`n who
:17:57. > :17:58.against Norwich City. Any man who you think is going to step tp and
:17:59. > :18:01.you think is going to step up and hit that penalty, he's as good as
:18:02. > :18:05.anyone. And they had a great chance to win it at the end. Looking at the
:18:06. > :18:10.way their finishing, the finishing run is fascinating for fans. They'll
:18:11. > :18:13.be looking at every game and will be saying, will we win this, whll we
:18:14. > :18:17.draw? Look at the table, Accrington, Exeter, Wycombe, the list goes on.
:18:18. > :18:25.Even Portsmouth, a big club. Average gate 15,000 this year. They're even
:18:26. > :18:28.in it. And Rochdale to come tomorrow night. Big game. I hope Hog`n
:18:29. > :18:28.in it. And Rochdale to come tomorrow night. Big game. I hope Hogan don't
:18:29. > :18:31.night. Big game. I hope Hog`n don't play for Rochdale. He is an
:18:32. > :18:34.outstanding player for them, for the Cobblers' sake. Time to check out
:18:35. > :18:36.the pulse of the region's football supporters by catching up with
:18:37. > :18:36.the pulse of the region's football supporters by catching up whth the
:18:37. > :18:37.supporters by catching up with the Late Kick Off fans' forum.
:18:38. > :18:40.the pulse of the region's football Three local and loyal supporters
:18:41. > :18:46.from Ipswich, Colchester and Southend. This week's big t`lking
:18:47. > :18:49.point ` money. One of my biggest issues is the
:18:50. > :18:55.financial inequalities from the top division all the way down. It
:18:56. > :18:56.financial inequalities from the top division all the way down. Ht is
:18:57. > :18:57.division all the way down. It is also starting to stretch each
:18:58. > :19:00.division. The Premier Leagud also starting to stretch each
:19:01. > :19:01.division. The Premier League five division. The Premier League five
:19:02. > :19:02.years ago was getting hard to compete. Now the Championshhp,
:19:03. > :19:03.years ago was getting hard to compete. Now the Championship, it's
:19:04. > :19:05.compete. Now the Championshhp, it's getting tough. In League One
:19:06. > :19:05.compete. Now the Championship, it's getting tough. In League Ond now,
:19:06. > :19:12.getting tough. In League One now, you've got people spending ?1
:19:13. > :19:14.million transfer fees. It's so disproportionate. My club in League
:19:15. > :19:17.One, and has been for the p`st few One, and has been for the p`st few
:19:18. > :19:23.years, the disparity between the top, it's almost as if the rest
:19:24. > :19:25.don't matter any more. It is really poor. We've always survived on
:19:26. > :19:30.fairer distribution of monex. poor. We've always survived on
:19:31. > :19:31.fairer distribution of money. Maybe fairer distribution of monex. Maybe
:19:32. > :19:33.selling of players, but even that seems to be less than it used to
:19:34. > :19:40.selling of players, but even that seems to be less than it usdd to be.
:19:41. > :19:43.What it's kind of generated, it's making the Championship in
:19:44. > :19:45.particular a very difficult league to get out of, because you got teams
:19:46. > :19:46.coming down getting 60 million to get out of, because you got teams
:19:47. > :19:53.coming down getting 60 millhon over four years. The parachute payments.
:19:54. > :19:57.How are you supposed to compete when you are struggling? Ipswich are
:19:58. > :20:00.struggling to keep their head above struggling to keep their he`d above
:20:01. > :20:03.water. They are in debt year on year. How can you find... It is so
:20:04. > :20:05.unfair. That is a direct example year. How can you find... It is so
:20:06. > :20:08.unfair. That is a direct example and cascading down to the lower
:20:09. > :20:17.divisions, where it is almost as if Leagues One and Two and beyond don't
:20:18. > :20:19.just matter. It's a reward for a relegation, the parachute p`yments.
:20:20. > :20:21.That's a good way of putting it. relegation, the parachute payments.
:20:22. > :20:23.That's a good way of putting it If That's a good way of putting it If
:20:24. > :20:26.you get relegated from the Premier League you should take the
:20:27. > :20:28.consequences. I know a lot of teams had problems in the past, Ldeds
:20:29. > :20:30.United and teams like that, who ended up in League One. They've
:20:31. > :20:31.United and teams like that, who ended up in League One. Thex've been
:20:32. > :20:36.self` inflicted. It's the cyclical self` inflicted. It's the cxclical
:20:37. > :20:40.nature of football. I think you will get teams that rise and fall, it
:20:41. > :20:46.happens all the time. It wasn't that long ago that Bradford were a
:20:47. > :20:48.Premiership side, and Swindon. It's the way it goes. That used to be
:20:49. > :20:52.achievable, but it seems one million achievable, but it seems ond million
:20:53. > :20:56.miles away. Can you imagine a Bradford or particularly a Swindon?
:20:57. > :21:00.You need to have that because that is the cherry the smaller clubs aim
:21:01. > :21:03.for. Teams like mine, they like to have the knowledge that it hs
:21:04. > :21:07.achievable and a small club can possibly make that. Unless it is
:21:08. > :21:09.achievable and a small club can possibly make that. Unless ht is a
:21:10. > :21:15.more level playing field it's not then happen. Going to the
:21:16. > :21:18.Championship almost ruined ts. To try to compete with some of those
:21:19. > :21:22.clubs we were spending, for us, disproportionate amounts of money.
:21:23. > :21:25.We were probably living beyond our means and that's cost us in the end
:21:26. > :21:34.and we're struggling now month to month to sort of exist. It's
:21:35. > :21:38.difficult because if you do get up there, if you don't spend a little
:21:39. > :21:39.bit of money, you will finish rock bottom and get hardly any points.
:21:40. > :21:41.Just the way it is. You have bottom and get hardly any points.
:21:42. > :21:42.Just the way it is. You havd got bottom and get hardly any points.
:21:43. > :21:45.Just the way it is. You have got to try and be sustainable about it and
:21:46. > :21:51.be sensible. Colchester did it better than us. What's the answer?
:21:52. > :21:52.better than us. What's the `nswer? The problem is all this money is
:21:53. > :21:54.The problem is all this mondy is going into the Premiership and you
:21:55. > :21:55.can guarantee the Premier Ldague going into the Premiership `nd you
:21:56. > :21:57.can guarantee the Premier League are can guarantee the Premier League are
:21:58. > :21:58.not going to vote for fairer distribution because it affects
:21:59. > :22:02.not going to vote for fairer distribution because it affdcts the
:22:03. > :22:04.clubs directly. I think the FA needs to get tougher because the Premier
:22:05. > :22:06.League is running the game effectively. There needs to be a
:22:07. > :22:10.push for a fairer distributhon. effectively. There needs to be a
:22:11. > :22:12.push for a fairer distribution. The push for a fairer distribution. The
:22:13. > :22:18.top clubs need to be put in line more often than they are. The irony
:22:19. > :22:22.is that Rooney has just signed this ?300,000 a week deal, reportedly.
:22:23. > :22:27.That single player is earning more than an entire squad in the lower
:22:28. > :22:33.leagues. It is madness. How can you compete, how can small clubs compete
:22:34. > :22:35.with that kind of disparity? The top clubs need to look after the smaller
:22:36. > :22:36.clubs need to look after thd smaller clubs a lot better than they do
:22:37. > :22:38.clubs a lot better than thex do because at the end of the day
:22:39. > :22:39.clubs a lot better than they do because at the end of the d`y they
:22:40. > :22:43.can't produce everyone themselves. They need to rely on some of the
:22:44. > :22:49.smaller clubs to bring players through. It's not fair at the
:22:50. > :22:52.moment. Barry how much did it cost
:22:53. > :23:02.Peterborough when you were relegated to League One? It cost us ?5
:23:03. > :23:06.million. We were very lucky. We sold Daley for six million. It's going to
:23:07. > :23:08.be a big problem next year. How are you trying to fill the gap? In
:23:09. > :23:10.League One you can only spend 6 % you trying to fill the gap? In
:23:11. > :23:12.League One you can only spend 6 % of your income on players' wages and
:23:13. > :23:12.League One you can only spend 60% of your income on players' wagds and if
:23:13. > :23:15.your income on players' wages and if we don't get out of League One this
:23:16. > :23:19.year, we will have a transfer embargo on us next year, because we
:23:20. > :23:21.spend too much on our players as it is. It is a big problem to us. Our
:23:22. > :23:24.is. It is a big problem to ts. Our gates are going down, commercial
:23:25. > :23:27.revenue is going down and that is not only us, it is all the clubs up
:23:28. > :23:29.and down the country. In Le`gue not only us, it is all the clubs up
:23:30. > :23:30.and down the country. In Le`gue Two, it's even worse, it's only 50%
:23:31. > :23:32.and down the country. In League Two, it's even worse, it's only 40% of
:23:33. > :23:36.your income they can spend on players' wages. Barry, why do you
:23:37. > :23:38.think the clubs are regulated, players' wages. Barry, why do you
:23:39. > :23:40.think the clubs are regulatdd, why don't you think the clubs can
:23:41. > :23:43.don't you think the clubs c`n regulate themselves? I think the
:23:44. > :23:46.Football League brought in these rules to protect the clubs because
:23:47. > :23:47.the clubs, the fans, everybody wears their heart on their sleeve, they
:23:48. > :23:52.want the club to win the le`gue want the club to win the league,
:23:53. > :23:59.they pay extra money. Some of them were paying 120% and getting into
:24:00. > :24:03.trouble. The difference between the haves and the have`nots grows every
:24:04. > :24:04.year. Shouldn't the FA, or somebody, the Football League the Prelier
:24:05. > :24:06.the Football League the Premier League, they need to do mord
:24:07. > :24:07.the Football League the Prelier League, they need to do more surely?
:24:08. > :24:09.League, they need to do mord surely? I think the Premier League should do
:24:10. > :24:10.more. I think the money thex get I think the Premier League should do
:24:11. > :24:11.more. I think the money they get is more. I think the money they get is
:24:12. > :24:12.obscene and when all clubs tp more. I think the money thex get is
:24:13. > :24:12.obscene and when all clubs up and obscene and when all clubs tp and
:24:13. > :24:14.down the pyramid are struggling, obscene and when all clubs up and
:24:15. > :24:15.down the pyramid are struggling it down the pyramid are struggling, it
:24:16. > :24:20.should be distributed better than what it is. It's a disgrace. What
:24:21. > :24:21.about the fact that when you what it is. It's a disgrace. What
:24:22. > :24:21.about the fact that when yot have about the fact that when yot have
:24:22. > :24:22.someone like Manchester City about the fact that when you have
:24:23. > :24:24.someone like Manchester Citx and someone like Manchester City and
:24:25. > :24:26.they are starting to buy up clubs almost around the world. Thdy've
:24:27. > :24:27.almost around the world. They've bought Melbourne and the te`m
:24:28. > :24:27.almost around the world. Thdy've bought Melbourne and the team in
:24:28. > :24:27.almost around the world. They've bought Melbourne and the te`m in New
:24:28. > :24:29.bought Melbourne and the team in New York, is that something you might be
:24:30. > :24:33.open to? If one of the bigger York, is that something you might be
:24:34. > :24:36.open to? If one of the biggdr clubs in the Premier League said, listen,
:24:37. > :24:39.Barry, we fancy buying your club so you can be a feeder club for us I
:24:40. > :24:41.you can be a feeder club for us? I don't think any club would want to
:24:42. > :24:42.be a feeder club for anybodx. be a feeder club for anybody.
:24:43. > :24:44.They've got their own identhty. be a feeder club for anybodx.
:24:45. > :24:45.They've got their own identity. It's They've got their own identity. It's
:24:46. > :24:50.important for the community that the clubs up and down the country are
:24:51. > :24:51.themselves. What about the future of Peterborough, do you fear for its
:24:52. > :24:53.existence? Can it compete? I Peterborough, do you fear for its
:24:54. > :24:57.existence? Can it compete? H fear for football's existence. What I'm
:24:58. > :25:01.frightened of is once one or two clubs collapse, it will be like a
:25:02. > :25:04.pack of cards and there will be 20, 30 clubs that collapse. The finance
:25:05. > :25:06.worries me. Also, I think what will happen is transfer fees in the lower
:25:07. > :25:08.leagues will get less and ldss. happen is transfer fees in the lower
:25:09. > :25:10.leagues will get less and less. We leagues will get less and ldss. We
:25:11. > :25:13.talked about the problems you've been facing financially. What if
:25:14. > :25:18.Norwich were to be relegated this season? You talk about five million
:25:19. > :25:21.if you drop out of the Championship. I think they would lose 60
:25:22. > :25:22.straightaway. That would be a big problem for them. Especiallx after
:25:23. > :25:27.problem for them. Especially after the defeat against Southampton1 at
:25:28. > :25:28.the weekend. You talk about five million being dropped. Is it 10
:25:29. > :25:30.million if you then the Premier million if you then the Premier
:25:31. > :25:31.League and you don't get th`t million if you then the Prelier
:25:32. > :25:31.League and you don't get that next League and you don't get that next
:25:32. > :25:33.season? They've got four ye`rs League and you don't get th`t next
:25:34. > :25:36.season? They've got four ye`rs of parachute payment if they go down,
:25:37. > :25:40.but they've already got contracts for millions and millions you can't
:25:41. > :25:43.recover sometimes. If you drop out of the Premiership, you're
:25:44. > :25:48.struggling. But Norwich won't drop out the Premiership! What's the
:25:49. > :25:49.matter with you?! You heard it here first. No such relegation fears
:25:50. > :25:49.matter with you?! You heard it here first. No such relegation fdars that
:25:50. > :25:50.the marathon five`a`side team first. No such relegation fears that
:25:51. > :25:50.the marathon five`a`side te`m at first. No such relegation fdars that
:25:51. > :25:54.the marathon five`a`side team at a tournament in Norfolk held over the
:25:55. > :25:58.weekend. The full Premier Ldague season was played out in just one
:25:59. > :26:01.day in aid of Sport Relief. The Canaries finishing in mid`t`ble
:26:02. > :26:05.Cheered on by former boss Bryan Gunn, who told us his old club are
:26:06. > :26:09.right to stick with current boss Chris Hughton. It's all abott
:26:10. > :26:11.getting together at this stage Chris Hughton. It's all about
:26:12. > :26:14.getting together at this st`ge of the year and creating that spirit
:26:15. > :26:22.and teamwork that will take them through. I think that is solething
:26:23. > :26:23.Norwich City might be an advantage to the rest of the teams, bdcause
:26:24. > :26:27.to the rest of the teams, because they stuck with Chris and Chris
:26:28. > :26:35.with his coaching staff, it will be a battle, but I'm sure they're ready
:26:36. > :26:38.for that. The next few games are vitally important. They are playing
:26:39. > :26:41.sides in and around them. The last four games are particularly tough. I
:26:42. > :26:44.think they will have enough points to stay up. It's been tough this
:26:45. > :26:46.season, they haven't scored enough goals but it's not easy. Soletimes
:26:47. > :26:53.fans' expectations are too high. Barry, when you know the fans are
:26:54. > :26:56.against the manager, are you Barry, when you know the fans are
:26:57. > :27:00.against the manager, are you a backer or a sacker? We back the
:27:01. > :27:02.manager. Darren lost eight games on the trot last year and we kept
:27:03. > :27:04.manager. Darren lost eight games on the trot last year and we kdpt with
:27:05. > :27:08.him and he got it right. But you got relegated. Yeah, but he still got it
:27:09. > :27:10.right. We got relegated with 54 points, which was a record hn the
:27:11. > :27:12.points, which was a record in the last kick of the game in thd
:27:13. > :27:12.points, which was a record hn the last kick of the game in the last
:27:13. > :27:14.game of the season and if wd'd last kick of the game in thd last
:27:15. > :27:17.game of the season and if we'd had our second`half performances, we'd
:27:18. > :27:18.have won the league, we would have been in the Premiership, th`t
:27:19. > :27:18.have won the league, we would have been in the Premiership, that is how
:27:19. > :27:20.been in the Premiership, th`t is how good we were second half. Let's
:27:21. > :27:22.been in the Premiership, that is how good we were second half. Ldt's look
:27:23. > :27:26.at the bottom of the Premier League table. If you are a Norwich City
:27:27. > :27:27.fan, it gets more worrying dvery week.
:27:28. > :27:28.table. If you are a Norwich City fan, it gets more You look `nd
:27:29. > :27:30.table. If you are a Norwich City fan, it gets more You look and you
:27:31. > :27:31.are thinking, are there going to be three teams worse than Norwhch
:27:32. > :27:31.are thinking, are there going to be three teams worse than Norwich this
:27:32. > :27:34.three teams worse than Norwhch this season? You think easily Sunderland,
:27:35. > :27:37.Cardiff and Fulham could be it. But whenever you see the fact that
:27:38. > :27:40.Sunderland have three games in hand... The run`in, we've spoken
:27:41. > :27:46.about it before. The big teams hand... The run`in, we've spoken
:27:47. > :27:49.about it before. The big te`ms at about it before. The big teams at
:27:50. > :27:52.the end, if you are a Norwich fan you will be scared by those final
:27:53. > :27:55.few weeks. Norwich will win three out of the next four games. Because
:27:56. > :27:58.they've got no chance in thd final four. Sunderland, Swansea, West
:27:59. > :27:59.Brom. Winnable games. My problem is going away to Fulham, as you
:28:00. > :28:01.Brom. Winnable games. My problem is going away to Fulham, as yot know,
:28:02. > :28:05.as a Norwich fan or player, they've never had a good record down there.
:28:06. > :28:08.Obviously the last big four games of the season, it's... I'm just glad
:28:09. > :28:09.I'm not playing any more, that's all I can say.
:28:10. > :28:12.Obviously the last big four games of Exciting times. That's what you want
:28:13. > :28:15.in football. Never dull, Barry, is it? Particularly when we have got
:28:16. > :28:19.you on Late Kick Off. Thank you to the big man, Barry Fry. To Paul
:28:20. > :28:23.McVeigh, as well. Keep in touch with us on Facebook and Twitter. Thanks
:28:24. > :28:26.for watching and we will be seeing you hopefully same time, same place
:28:27. > :28:30.you hopefully same time, sale place next week. Bye for now.