:07:30. > :07:40.What do you do when there is no match? Watch football. Huddersfield
:07:40. > :07:42.
:07:42. > :07:52.have let one in. If that stays a draw, that is ideal. A year since
:07:52. > :07:54.
:07:54. > :07:58.Gary Megson took over. This is Final Score on BBC Two.
:07:58. > :08:05.Huddersfield Town 1 MK Dons 1. Sheffield Wednesday 2, Yeovil Town
:08:05. > :08:09.1. Dan, first weekend in February, top of the table, is there anything
:08:09. > :08:14.that can stop Charlton now? I don't think so. If you look at the table,
:08:14. > :08:21.we are looking really good. 33 plus goal difference as well. It is up
:08:21. > :08:26.to the other teams to make up that gap. It is looking really good.
:08:26. > :08:30.Danny Green enjoying life at Charlton. There must be so many
:08:30. > :08:35.players over the years who have been told they are not good enough,
:08:35. > :08:41.they go away and disappear? But he has fought his way back into the
:08:41. > :08:46.club that let him go? It didn't happen to me! LAUGHTER You do see a
:08:46. > :08:52.lot of players - they don't quite make it, they go into non-league
:08:52. > :08:58.and they work their way back up. Credit to them for doing that.
:08:58. > :09:01.you need that correct mentality to do that? If you are a precious
:09:02. > :09:05.player... You need to believe in yourself. There were a lot of
:09:05. > :09:09.players that came from non-league into the league. A lot of players
:09:09. > :09:13.dropped out and came back. Danny Green got his chance at Dagenham &
:09:13. > :09:18.Redbridge. He scored 12 goals last season. He was suspended at the
:09:18. > :09:22.start of the season but he has got himself in the team and he has been
:09:22. > :09:30.instrumental to their success so far. He has great delivery. They
:09:30. > :09:35.are really pleased with him. have on the screen - since 2004,
:09:35. > :09:42.every single year has been a drop, they dropped down - maybe this is
:09:42. > :09:48.the year they start to climb back up again? I remember played there
:09:48. > :09:55.when Curb was manager. You now realise what a great time that was
:09:55. > :10:05.under Curbs. Brighty will know more than I do about the club. He came
:10:05. > :10:06.
:10:06. > :10:14.in, Alan Pardew and then - I left in '99... Nothing to do with you!
:10:14. > :10:20.Be careful what you ask for. We need somebody else. Chris Powell
:10:20. > :10:28.has come back. No goals from the weekend. Footballers refer to this
:10:28. > :10:35.sort of strike as a worldy! This is Dale Stephens. What do you think of
:10:35. > :10:42.this one? An awesome strike. Especially at The Valley as well.
:10:42. > :10:49.Just looking to progress. 12 clean sheets which is fantastic. Played
:10:49. > :10:57.everybody so far - 18 clean sheets will get promotion. You only hit
:10:57. > :11:04.one like in your career? It is not about me! Now to Wycombe, your old
:11:04. > :11:13.club. Such a crucial win for them at the weekend. We had Gareth
:11:13. > :11:16.Ainsworth in here and he scored at the weekend. Yeah. A crucial win.
:11:16. > :11:26.That was Adam McGurk giving Tranmere the lead. Then two goals
:11:26. > :11:34.for Wycombe. That set up Matty Whichelow. He is on loan from
:11:34. > :11:44.Watford. When I look at Wycombe, scoring goals isn't a problem for
:11:44. > :11:48.them. They have conceded 55 goals. If they can tighten up a little bit
:11:48. > :11:53.at the back, they will pull themselves away. It's almost ten
:11:54. > :11:57.years since you were there, Lawrie? Yes. The club haven't moved on much
:11:57. > :12:01.since then? Are they one of those clubs that find it so hard to
:12:01. > :12:08.impress and rise up the league? Are they in their position? When I was
:12:08. > :12:14.there, the fans were mid-table in Division One. In the ten years I
:12:14. > :12:19.have left, they have spent four weeks higher than when I left. A
:12:19. > :12:24.good win on Saturday. They got themselves out of the bottom four,
:12:24. > :12:31.which will give them some confidence. It is a decent club,
:12:31. > :12:39.Wycombe. They have the rugby there. It is a decent stadium. It is a
:12:39. > :12:48.good Division One club. They have struggled to maintain that. Gareth
:12:48. > :12:53.was talking of the importance of winning. But if they had lost that,
:12:53. > :12:58.there would have been deflation? The bonus is, you are playing, you
:12:58. > :13:02.win, then you look at everyone below you. You can send in your
:13:02. > :13:12.questions and comments throughout the week as well. On Twitter you
:13:12. > :13:18.can find us at @LKOLondonSE, you can also use #LKOLondonSE. Loads
:13:19. > :13:25.more on our Facebook page too - facebook.com/LKOLondonSE. You can
:13:25. > :13:29.also see all seven regional versions of Late Kick Off on the
:13:29. > :13:33.iPlayer as well. So to Lawrie's Barnet now. Very
:13:33. > :13:38.much on the up in the league and perhaps a Cup Final in their sights
:13:38. > :13:45.as well. Tomorrow they visit Swindon in the second leg of the
:13:45. > :13:55.JPT Southern Area Final. The scores 1-1 from the first leg.
:13:55. > :13:57.
:13:57. > :14:04.It began in August in Essex. The Bees beat Colchester. Next a trip
:14:04. > :14:14.to Gillingham. Barnet were behind but they equalised with a penalty.
:14:14. > :14:24.Then followed another trip away to Cheltenham. Barnet were into the
:14:24. > :14:27.
:14:27. > :14:33.Southern Area Semis. No goals, penalties it was. And to the
:14:33. > :14:36.Southern Area Final first leg, Swindon took the lead, but Mark
:14:36. > :14:42.Hughes nodded in a crucial equaliser to leave things all
:14:42. > :14:49.square ahead of tomorrow's trip to the County Ground.
:14:49. > :14:53.Swindon are doing very well, lots of tips on them because of Paolo di
:14:53. > :14:56.Canio? They are probably the best team in our division. Whoever
:14:56. > :15:02.finishes above them will be champions. He has done well. He has
:15:02. > :15:09.gone to a club where they have brought in big-name managers. Denis
:15:09. > :15:15.Wise went there before him. They have to give them players and Paolo
:15:15. > :15:22.likes a player! He has got them to where they are. A good Cup run.
:15:22. > :15:32.They have won the last four league games. Do you think your team has
:15:32. > :15:34.
:15:34. > :15:38.benefited from the Cup run? Has it helped? The Cup has helped us. We
:15:38. > :15:48.beat Portsmouth in the Carling Cup earlier in the season. The FA Cup
:15:48. > :15:53.
:15:53. > :15:57.run we went on, too. So it has helped us. It has catapulted you
:15:57. > :16:07.away from it? You used to be the underdog. Is it a benefit, though?
:16:07. > :16:11.I would like to sometimes - I was working out - I have been a manager
:16:11. > :16:15.for - I have been the underdog. would like to be the favourite?
:16:15. > :16:19.are what we are. Every time I get on the training ground, we look up
:16:19. > :16:24.and there are the Wembley arches. It will be great for the Barnet
:16:24. > :16:32.fans to go there. We will take 10,000. They haven't been to
:16:32. > :16:38.Wembley since '72. So that will be a great day out for Barnet Football
:16:38. > :16:46.Club. A lot to play for. To do that in the team near the bottom of the
:16:46. > :16:52.table is quite an achievement. Swindon have a dabble -- Swindon
:16:52. > :16:56.had a dabble at trying to buy him. Have you got a pre-match chat lined
:16:56. > :17:01.up to say, "Listen, we are 90 minutes away, I know what it is
:17:01. > :17:06.like to be there." The players know that. I will save the chat for when
:17:06. > :17:11.we are in the final! You need somebody to score the first goal at
:17:11. > :17:14.the new Wembley - so have a word with Mark Bright? They have only
:17:14. > :17:18.conceded seven goals in the league. So it is tough. They are a very
:17:18. > :17:22.good side. We have no doubts about that. We are looking forward to it.
:17:22. > :17:27.If we can play as we have done over the last two months, we will give
:17:27. > :17:36.them a game. They know that. It will be no surprise if they go
:17:36. > :17:41.through. I have been involved in a few Cup games. That match is live
:17:41. > :17:47.on the BBC. You can hear a full live commentary on Tuesday night.
:17:47. > :17:50.On BBC London 94.9 FM, there is live coverage of Millwall's match
:17:50. > :17:54.at Southampton. We like to think that every penny
:17:54. > :18:01.we spend goes to building a better team. With budgets already tightly
:18:02. > :18:05.stretched, there are calls for clubs to pay for moch$$DUMP
:18:05. > :18:09.matchday policing outside the stadiums.
:18:09. > :18:14.This Saturday's London derby between Millwall and West Ham was a
:18:14. > :18:17.potential flashpoint which had been anticipated for weeks and the Met
:18:17. > :18:21.were ready. This group of Millwall fans were escorted down here by
:18:21. > :18:26.police officers, the match has already kicked off. There appears
:18:26. > :18:30.to be more police officers than fans and there is a crush trying to
:18:30. > :18:33.get in. Officers have been drafted in from all over London and taken
:18:33. > :18:38.away from their normal duties. The last time these two teams met here
:18:38. > :18:42.it was a different story. There was fighting before and after the game
:18:42. > :18:48.last night... Violence had erupted and it went on into the night and
:18:48. > :18:52.the cost to police the game came in at over �200,000. West Ham was only
:18:52. > :18:56.billed �18,000 while the public picked up the rest. The majority of
:18:56. > :19:00.the cost of policing this game will come out of the police budget. It
:19:00. > :19:10.has been a point of contention since the '60s. Many are
:19:10. > :19:13.
:19:13. > :19:18.complaining the clubs should be contributing more. Good afternoon.
:19:18. > :19:23.3.00 kick-off. Brentford has a long history as a family club and
:19:23. > :19:28.experiences little or no trouble. This man is the Head of Security.
:19:28. > :19:35.Years ago, it was the police who used to look after the stadiums. We
:19:35. > :19:40.always speak to the police at the beginning of the season. We decide
:19:40. > :19:44.what we are going to do as far as the policing is concerned. Clubs
:19:44. > :19:49.pay for policing on their property. Step outside the ground, it is down
:19:49. > :19:53.to the taxpayer to pick up the bill. Private property owned by the club
:19:53. > :19:56.is known as the footprint and how many police operate within it is
:19:56. > :20:00.negotiated annually at the beginning of the season. In the
:20:00. > :20:05.last few years, Brentford have increased the number of stewards at
:20:05. > :20:09.the ground, reducing the police presence thus reducing their bill.
:20:09. > :20:15.Outside the club, the responsibility for policing falls
:20:15. > :20:19.on PC Ken White. He has been working here for 20 years. If they
:20:19. > :20:22.could get less police inside the ground, they would. They could be
:20:22. > :20:25.on the streets doing what we do best. Do you think that is the
:20:25. > :20:30.right thing, that the clubs should be responsible for it and the
:20:30. > :20:34.police shouldn't be here? Without a doubt, yes. The fact is, you have
:20:34. > :20:38.got a football ground on your borough so you have to police it
:20:38. > :20:42.accordingly. A Freedom of Information Request from the BBC
:20:42. > :20:47.found that the Metropolitan Police spent over �5 million policing
:20:47. > :20:52.football matches across London in the 2010/11 season. The clubs
:20:52. > :20:55.themselves were only charged �3 million. Football clubs say they
:20:55. > :21:05.pay large amounts of tax and that having to pay for policing would
:21:05. > :21:15.
:21:15. > :21:20.put smaller clubs out of business. In an ideal world, I would like to
:21:20. > :21:25.see no burden on the public purse when it comes to policing football.
:21:25. > :21:29.Whether or not I think it right to have full and total cost recovery
:21:29. > :21:35.is irrelevant. That might be the police service's aspiration. But at
:21:35. > :21:40.the moment, we are working to the latest case law. The true cost of
:21:40. > :21:42.policing football may be higher than previously thought. The
:21:42. > :21:45.Association of Chief Police Officers have commissioned the
:21:45. > :21:51.first research of its kind which shows that the level of other
:21:51. > :21:55.crimes goes up on match days. conclusion of that as a result of
:21:55. > :21:59.the research we have done indicate there are higher than expected
:21:59. > :22:03.numbers of crimes that are taking place on football match days that
:22:03. > :22:07.the police are currently having to use their own budget to pay for. I
:22:07. > :22:11.think that it is reasonable to assume that if there is evidence to
:22:11. > :22:14.suggest that there are these increases that are taking place
:22:14. > :22:18.outside the footprint, then the football clubs should be paying
:22:18. > :22:23.their fair share and they should be held responsible. With the dispute
:22:23. > :22:29.heading for the courts, the battle over who should pay when the
:22:29. > :22:34.beautiful game turns ugly is set to intensify.
:22:34. > :22:37.Richard Adams with an interesting piece. Saturday's game passed off
:22:37. > :22:42.without incident. Were this to come in, it would be another huge amount
:22:42. > :22:52.of money for the Football League clubs to have to fork out? Huge
:22:52. > :22:54.
:22:54. > :22:59.burden, yeah. In the piece, most football fans pay taxes, you know.
:22:59. > :23:05.The fans are taxpayers. I don't understand that. Clubs do so much
:23:05. > :23:10.for the community. They create projects where 50,000 young people
:23:10. > :23:13.have come through where they organise five-a-side games in the
:23:13. > :23:19.evening. They get the kids off the street and the crime rate drops.
:23:19. > :23:24.They do work? They do such a lot of good work in the community. Give us
:23:24. > :23:34.an idea, Lawrie, we estimated �600,000 a season for a
:23:34. > :23:34.
:23:35. > :23:39.Championship club. Not as much for a side in League Two. Without a
:23:39. > :23:42.doubt. It is a big question for clubs. Are they going to tax
:23:42. > :23:52.universities for students demonstrating? It is part and
:23:52. > :23:52.
:23:53. > :23:59.parcel - you pay for the police and they have to do a job. Say the
:23:59. > :24:04.Notting Hill Carnival - do the organisers have to pay the police
:24:04. > :24:08.for that? They are paying such big money to players, so they want a
:24:08. > :24:14.part of that pie. The Premier League clubs can afford that but
:24:14. > :24:19.the lower league clubs can't. The weather had a severe effect in
:24:19. > :24:29.Leagues One and Two, but all five of our Championship teams were in
:24:29. > :24:40.
:24:40. > :24:44.action. chances against their rivals after
:24:44. > :24:48.the Hammers' drubbing last week. Kevin Nolan getting a red for his
:24:48. > :24:53.dangerous tackle. The league leaders have shown why they are
:24:53. > :24:57.favourites for promotion. Carlton Cole heading them ahead. The Lions
:24:58. > :25:07.were in the game and Liam Trotter drew the sides level with this
:25:08. > :25:21.
:25:21. > :25:27.stunning strike. Minutes later, the Hammers scored through Winston Reid.
:25:27. > :25:32.Brighton kept up their chase for a play-off spot by securing maximum
:25:32. > :25:42.points in a game that saw three players sent off. Jermaine Beckford
:25:42. > :25:48.
:25:48. > :25:58.was the first to see red. Matt Sparrow evened things up. Will
:25:58. > :25:58.
:25:58. > :26:02.Buckley then slotted home his seventh of the season. Neil Dann
:26:02. > :26:11.picked up his second yellow as Brighton held on for all three
:26:11. > :26:17.points. Watford made it two wins in two
:26:17. > :26:21.with a good performance. John Eustace showed he is still a threat
:26:21. > :26:31.in front of goal. The skipper should have made it two in the
:26:31. > :26:41.second half. Eustace did get his brace taking advantage of
:26:41. > :26:41.
:26:42. > :26:51.Barnsley's slack defending. The win keeps Watford a safe distance from
:26:52. > :26:55.
:26:55. > :27:05.the relegation zone. Dougie Freedman was left feeling
:27:05. > :27:10.
:27:10. > :27:16.his side did enough to win. Boro haven't won since Boxing Day.
:27:16. > :27:21.Palace failed to convert any of their chances and left the away
:27:21. > :27:24.their chances and left the away fans with just a point. I think the
:27:24. > :27:29.Championship is a fascinating division. I know you are
:27:29. > :27:33.concentrating on League Two. How do you see it panning out? I think it
:27:34. > :27:37.is up there for grabs. The one thing I would say - the Premier
:27:37. > :27:43.League is the best European League. The Championship is the best
:27:43. > :27:50.English league in this country. Lots of English players, full
:27:50. > :27:55.crowds, Reading - there are a lot of good players and managers.
:27:55. > :28:03.had Sam Allardyce on here a few weeks ago. Still doing particularly
:28:03. > :28:13.well and still he is getting booed? What about the academies, Sam?
:28:13. > :28:18.
:28:18. > :28:28."Academy?" Top of the league, you can't do more than that. He has
:28:28. > :28:34.nine strikers. Nicky Mannard? are expecting them to get promotion.
:28:34. > :28:40.17 players went out through the door. We were both talking about
:28:41. > :28:43.the tackles. Let's have a look at those. This is Kevin Nolan - a
:28:43. > :28:51.those. This is Kevin Nolan - a straight red. It was so early in
:28:51. > :28:59.the game. You can see here, both the feet are off the ground. This
:28:59. > :29:06.is Matt Sparrow. If you did that in training, the players would be
:29:06. > :29:09.furious. It is not about one leg, two legs or six legs. Do you tell
:29:09. > :29:13.your players... Not allowed to go to ground. In training? Not allowed
:29:13. > :29:18.to go to ground. You tackle by standing up. If you have to go to
:29:18. > :29:23.ground, we can damage... And players have damaged each other by
:29:24. > :29:29.going to ground. Someone goes to ground, that is when people get
:29:29. > :29:34.ground, that is when people get hurt. So no going to ground. Do you
:29:34. > :29:40.want to score early and hold on tomorrow or score a late one?
:29:40. > :29:46.want people to say, "You are going to Wembley." I don't care how we do
:29:46. > :29:53.it. As long as we get there. It would be fantastic for the club.
:29:53. > :29:59.Fantastic for the players. This is a chance for a bit of glory. Yeah.
:29:59. > :30:04.That semifinal mentality, what is it, Brighty? Just win? Dream. I
:30:04. > :30:10.went to watch Palace in the semifinal, they didn't get through,
:30:10. > :30:15.so if Barnet get through, I will go. Before we go, time for another
:30:15. > :30:19.football nightmare for you. Even the late great Brian Clough had
:30:19. > :30:27.them. It never worked out for him at Brighton and this was probably
:30:27. > :30:37.the day he would wish he was anywhere but beside the seaside.
:30:37. > :30:42.Good night. December 1973, my Brighton nightmare is still with me
:30:42. > :30:48.now. It was supposed to be the dawn of a new era. Having made Derby the
:30:48. > :30:56.champions of England, we were puzzled how he ended up with us.
:30:56. > :31:04.This was his fifth game in charge. Surely we would be champions, too?
:31:04. > :31:12.1-0 down after four minutes. 2-0 down after ten. But then perhaps
:31:12. > :31:22.salvation - O'Sullivan from 25 yards. Was this the start of the
:31:22. > :31:22.
:31:22. > :31:29.comeback? Oh no, we wouldn't! Another goal, and a header from the
:31:29. > :31:38.chap with the huge sideburns. 5-1 at half-time. It didn't get better.
:31:38. > :31:46.6-1. Cloughy looked calm. Looked like there could be a miracle. 7-1.