0:00:00 > 0:00:03Hello. Nottingham's man for all football seasons and a 73-year-old
0:00:03 > 0:00:13weightlifting champion a just two of the people we are meeting on
0:00:13 > 0:00:18
0:00:19 > 0:00:25late kick-off. He saw medals as a player at the city Ground and
0:00:25 > 0:00:29promotion as a manager but what can Frank Clark achieved as chairman?
0:00:29 > 0:00:34All I hope is that the football club is a better football club than
0:00:34 > 0:00:39the day I came. With money ever tighter, clubs increasingly need to
0:00:39 > 0:00:45produce their own talent, so are these players the future for
0:00:45 > 0:00:52Birmingham City? Would you mess with this man? You know the answer
0:00:52 > 0:01:00to that, my friend. You know! of him later. By and joined by two
0:01:00 > 0:01:05men who always have a lot to say about Midlands football. Dean Kiely
0:01:05 > 0:01:10played for six clubs including West Brom. We welcome for the first time
0:01:10 > 0:01:15Stan Collymore, whose names in Midlands football include Walsall,
0:01:15 > 0:01:20Wolves, Forest, Leicester and Villa. Welcome. We start this week with
0:01:20 > 0:01:24one of Stan's former clubs. It has not been an easy time for
0:01:24 > 0:01:28Nottingham Forest. Another near miss in the play-offs was followed
0:01:28 > 0:01:34by the departure of Steve McClaren. They are currently in the bottom
0:01:34 > 0:01:42three of Championship. Off the field, Nigel Doughty stood down to
0:01:42 > 0:01:47be replaced by a man inexplicably linked with better times. --
0:01:47 > 0:01:52inextricably. It is 37 years since Frank Clark first walked out pier.
0:01:52 > 0:02:00What is it like walking out as chairman? Much more relaxing than
0:02:01 > 0:02:05being manager. Player, manager, and now leading the board. It is a rare
0:02:05 > 0:02:13hat-trick to complete. Yes, it is an exciting challenge. A lot of
0:02:13 > 0:02:18work to be done. It but I am enjoying it. He played for Brian
0:02:18 > 0:02:26Clough in the Seventies, winning the European Cup. It was a
0:02:26 > 0:02:31fantastic day for me. A good way to go out in a career. He started in
0:02:31 > 0:02:39management with an unenviable task. Frank Clark has worked a little
0:02:39 > 0:02:46meant -- little miracle. Brian had gone and the club was in
0:02:46 > 0:02:54uproar. 18 years he had been here and he was a legend. There was just
0:02:54 > 0:03:02a feeling, oh goodness, what are we going to do? Fast-forward to 2011
0:03:02 > 0:03:10and more chaos. The manager quits after just months and a long-
0:03:10 > 0:03:16standing chairman resigns. That sums up the whole season.
0:03:16 > 0:03:22With that in mind, you have two lovely daughters and grandchildren,
0:03:22 > 0:03:26why come back can take this job? Because they asked me! Obviously
0:03:26 > 0:03:33Forest has a special place in my life and the wonderful memories I
0:03:33 > 0:03:38have. I probably would not have gone at this stage for any other
0:03:38 > 0:03:42club. He now has to shoulder the responsibility. I am aware that we
0:03:42 > 0:03:45have the future of the club in our hands and what we do in the next
0:03:45 > 0:03:52couple of years will be very, very important to the future of
0:03:52 > 0:03:57Nottingham Forest. Former chairman Nigel Doughty is still owned. What
0:03:57 > 0:04:02happens when he walks away? Do you have to have somewhere else in
0:04:02 > 0:04:09place? We don't have to but it will be very difficult if we don't. It
0:04:09 > 0:04:14is not a financial crisis as such. The finances have been left in
0:04:14 > 0:04:20place by Nigel to ensure that all of the commitments will be met for
0:04:20 > 0:04:25two and a half years. It means Steve Cotterill has little money
0:04:25 > 0:04:30for change. Forest have won just one in 10. Frank is 100 % behind
0:04:30 > 0:04:36the manager. He knew what the scenario was. It was explained to
0:04:36 > 0:04:43him before he came. But that is not the same as having to work with the
0:04:43 > 0:04:50restrictions. We are all sympathetic. He is concerned about
0:04:50 > 0:04:55our position. I have a firm belief that we will be okay and we will
0:04:55 > 0:05:03stay in the division. We have to accept the reality that we are in
0:05:03 > 0:05:13the relegation places. One of his key aims is to restore our wage
0:05:13 > 0:05:19structure. -- a wage structure. don't think the current system is
0:05:19 > 0:05:23helping and we will have to look at it. How do you see the next few
0:05:23 > 0:05:30years for Nottingham Forest? If you had a crystal ball, what will
0:05:30 > 0:05:37happen? It will be very difficult but I don't see any reason, if we
0:05:37 > 0:05:41get a few breaks, that next year we can't be challenging again. Frank
0:05:41 > 0:05:46won medals with the club as a player, promotion as a manager, but
0:05:46 > 0:05:54what will his legacy be as chairman? I am not interested in
0:05:54 > 0:06:03legacies. On the day I leave I hope only that the football club is a
0:06:03 > 0:06:11better club then it was on the day I came. -- than it was.
0:06:11 > 0:06:18Francs ING that Forest. He is almost too nice to be chairman. --
0:06:18 > 0:06:22Frank assigned to you at Farah -- at Forest. He came in after Brian
0:06:22 > 0:06:28Clough and it was almost impossible. He needed the right building blocks
0:06:28 > 0:06:33at the right time. I want him to have the time not just to be a
0:06:33 > 0:06:36figurehead and answer questions but to be given teeth and put Forest in
0:06:36 > 0:06:41the direction of recovery which will hopefully end in premier-
0:06:41 > 0:06:48league football in four or five years. 1 win in 10, no money, the
0:06:48 > 0:06:55club is up for sale. It is a massively tough situation. Yes,
0:06:55 > 0:07:05Nigel Doughty has done a fantastic job. It is 30 managers in 15 years.
0:07:05 > 0:07:05
0:07:05 > 0:07:09It started with David Platt. -- 13 managers. They are in a position
0:07:09 > 0:07:17where they have to win a half years of funds and they need to do
0:07:17 > 0:07:22something in the meantime. -- they have two and-a-half years of funds.
0:07:22 > 0:07:32You have to see the travails of Manchester City, Leeds, it will be
0:07:32 > 0:07:38
0:07:38 > 0:07:48a tough demand to get out of League One. It looks now that they are. In
0:07:48 > 0:07:50
0:07:50 > 0:07:55be eyes and crossing the T's. --. In the eye is. I am sure that Steve
0:07:55 > 0:07:59Cotterill and Frank Clark would have rather have kept some of those
0:07:59 > 0:08:04players but if the fund keeps them viable and competitive they can
0:08:04 > 0:08:08spend it well and hopefully there was time for them to become
0:08:08 > 0:08:14competitive. Frank revealed that the wage structure was basically
0:08:14 > 0:08:18blown by Steve McClaren, fires put -- five players left out of
0:08:18 > 0:08:25contract. Jonathan Green is a friend of mine and I said to him,
0:08:25 > 0:08:33what is going on? He said, as a player, call of the soap opera are
0:08:33 > 0:08:37round the club has nothing to do with the players. Despite all of
0:08:37 > 0:08:41the. They are solid guys and they are giving their bar at -- their
0:08:41 > 0:08:50best. When you are at the bottom it is not through players going in and
0:08:50 > 0:08:55not putting the shift in. You have to feel for Steve Cotterill because
0:08:55 > 0:09:01he has inherited almost an impossible job. Managers want to
0:09:01 > 0:09:07have their own backroom staff, their own style of play. He has
0:09:07 > 0:09:12nothing to spend. You have to give him that kind of leeway, but it
0:09:12 > 0:09:18goes back to 13 managers in 15 years. Forest is a club that can
0:09:18 > 0:09:23rely on some fantastic experience that makes the whole club feel
0:09:23 > 0:09:33better and move forward. Forest are back in action tomorrow evening,
0:09:33 > 0:09:38
0:09:38 > 0:09:43one of four Championship matches involving our teams. It is Wacka
0:09:43 > 0:09:52night at the Bescot tomorrow as Walsall fans on or Jimmy Walker in
0:09:52 > 0:09:56the home going against Notts County. -- paid tribute to Jimmy Walker.
0:09:56 > 0:10:01Leicester City take on Middlesbrough. News of a date
0:10:01 > 0:10:08change for Leicester's Championship game. It was due to be played on
0:10:08 > 0:10:1818th February but now will be Tuesday March 13th. Coming up, the
0:10:18 > 0:10:19
0:10:19 > 0:10:28goals that at Cheltenham to the top of lead to. -- that took Cheltenham.
0:10:28 > 0:10:38-- to the top of League Two. Clubs are increasingly relying on youth
0:10:38 > 0:10:38
0:10:38 > 0:10:42players. In the first of three special reports from the Blues
0:10:42 > 0:10:45Academy, Laura May McMullan meets the youngsters who are about to
0:10:45 > 0:10:52find out if they will make the grade at St Andrews.
0:10:52 > 0:10:58These boys are living the dream. Nearly 150 players aged from eight
0:10:58 > 0:11:01to 19 are on the books of Birmingham City's Academy. These
0:11:01 > 0:11:04boys are on the two-year scholarship programme. Some are
0:11:04 > 0:11:10just four months away from learning their fate. Will they get a
0:11:11 > 0:11:15professional contract? 17-year-old Sam Westley is a second year full-
0:11:15 > 0:11:20time scholar. The young defender from Ipswich joined in 2009. He
0:11:20 > 0:11:26says he is determined to make the grade. It has been my dream to be a
0:11:26 > 0:11:30footballer since I was really young. It is everything you work towards.
0:11:30 > 0:11:36It is great been around here, seeing the lifestyle of the first
0:11:36 > 0:11:40team players. 18-year-old Callum Reilly has been with the club since
0:11:40 > 0:11:47he was seven. Four weeks ago he was given his squad number and on
0:11:47 > 0:11:52Saturday he makes his first-team debut, coming on as a substitute.
0:11:52 > 0:11:57need to push on and not rest on my laurels. Get on the bench a lot
0:11:57 > 0:12:02more, keep my head down and work hard. The competition is tough.
0:12:02 > 0:12:07Last year eight scholars were kept on and five released. The Academy
0:12:07 > 0:12:11manager says that letting them go is the hardest part of the job.
0:12:11 > 0:12:17is very difficult. The way I look at it as a person who has to
0:12:17 > 0:12:20deliver the decision is that, if you provide the boy with every
0:12:20 > 0:12:25opportunity to try to improve and he has everything he should have
0:12:25 > 0:12:30got within the programme, that is hopefully where all of the other
0:12:30 > 0:12:34external aspects of our programme will help them move on. The
0:12:34 > 0:12:40youngsters are educated to A-level standard, with the club footing the
0:12:40 > 0:12:45bill for their training and welfare. It is the likes of 20-year-old
0:12:45 > 0:12:51Jordan Mutch and 17-year-old Nathan Redmond who are providing the
0:12:51 > 0:12:55inspiration. Both are Academy success stories, who have
0:12:55 > 0:12:59represented their country and graduated to the first team.
0:12:59 > 0:13:09Redmond has worked his way up the ladder from the age of eight. These
0:13:09 > 0:13:15goals are just the start of what should be a glittering career.
0:13:15 > 0:13:20There are currently 1500 young player registered with League clubs
0:13:20 > 0:13:26and last season 249 players aged under 21 may be a professional
0:13:26 > 0:13:36debuts in the Football League. That is when managers tend to protect
0:13:36 > 0:13:38
0:13:38 > 0:13:44their young players from the media Perhaps an discipline is the most
0:13:44 > 0:13:48important thing. The desire to want to do well. To want me part of a
0:13:48 > 0:13:53structured group. Is the ones that are prepared to and want it the
0:13:53 > 0:13:59most that have the best chance. It is for us to guide that.
0:13:59 > 0:14:03Some of these players will make it. Maybe at Birmingham City, may be
0:14:03 > 0:14:09elsewhere. For others, this is the closest they will come to playing
0:14:09 > 0:14:13football full-time. I was watching your reactions.
0:14:13 > 0:14:22Academy's have changed since your day. They have. I remember going to
0:14:22 > 0:14:27West Brom and working out on a wooden floor with two cones. It has
0:14:27 > 0:14:36not done me any harm. When you look at that, you sell the rate -- sell
0:14:36 > 0:14:42the it. As long as a boy has been given every opportunity to grow, as
0:14:42 > 0:14:47the person as well as a footballer, and given all the tools, the
0:14:47 > 0:14:51football club can be happy with the job they have done. Ironically, you
0:14:51 > 0:14:57were unsuccessful in your first club. I was a second-year
0:14:57 > 0:15:03apprentice at Walsall. I got release, went to Wolves, got given
0:15:03 > 0:15:09a three-month contract, scored goals in the reserve. I went to the
0:15:09 > 0:15:14careers of us. I have got friends who have got children in academies.
0:15:14 > 0:15:19I scored lots of goals at junior level and never saw a scout. The
0:15:19 > 0:15:26net was not cast wide enough. When I did get released, I had to knock
0:15:26 > 0:15:31on the career of the store. Telford were interested. -- career office's
0:15:31 > 0:15:36door. I would not change it for the world but now, if you could have
0:15:36 > 0:15:39that experience of being in Academy, if you do not make it as a
0:15:39 > 0:15:43professional footballer, live skills are set up for every Korea.
0:15:43 > 0:15:48If you had to go out of football, would you have been prepared for
0:15:48 > 0:15:52such a thing? I think you are. There is a concern for me when kids
0:15:52 > 0:15:58are rejected and turfed out at 10 years old, they are playing up the
0:15:58 > 0:16:06numbers game. That, I have major issues with. It is difficult to
0:16:06 > 0:16:11deal with rejection at 16 but when you get to that age, you can cope a
0:16:11 > 0:16:15bit better. What a fantastic system at the Academy system is providing.
0:16:15 > 0:16:22There are new rules coming through whereby the bigger clubs can
0:16:23 > 0:16:30cherry-pick from a lower league clubs. They pay a low set fee. Is
0:16:30 > 0:16:36this a good thing or a bad thing? I'm not totally comfortable with it.
0:16:36 > 0:16:40I would say the bigger clubs can just cherry-pick but what they do
0:16:40 > 0:16:45is stockpile very good players. That is what Arsenal do. Those very
0:16:45 > 0:16:49young players will be stockpiled at the bigger club. They will have
0:16:49 > 0:16:55better kit and Trade and better facilities but will be discarded if
0:16:55 > 0:17:00they do not make the grade. -- trained on better facilities.
0:17:00 > 0:17:09will just leave the game. The major concern is, let us take Wayne
0:17:09 > 0:17:16Rooney as an example. Everton have to pay peanuts for him. That is not
0:17:16 > 0:17:20fair to it than 90 odd clubs in the Football League. Thank you. We will
0:17:20 > 0:17:25read his are the Port Vale story later. We would love to hear from
0:17:25 > 0:17:28you about what you think about this week's show. We have a Facebook
0:17:28 > 0:17:32page. If you can continue the discussion on Twitter. I know Stan
0:17:32 > 0:17:35is a fan. With Crawley preoccupied with the
0:17:35 > 0:17:39FA Cup and Southend on a day off, Cheltenham Town had a chance to go
0:17:39 > 0:17:48to the top of League Two. And they did it in style, winning 3-1 at
0:17:48 > 0:17:51defeat by Bristol Rovers was a rude awakening for Cheltenham, this
0:17:51 > 0:17:55performance at Macclesfield was a case of business as usual. Luke
0:17:55 > 0:18:05Garbutt was the first to threaten the Macclesfield goal. But it was
0:18:05 > 0:18:05
0:18:05 > 0:18:14the home side who scored first. He has got a bit of space on the right
0:18:14 > 0:18:24hand side. In his into the net. It's a goal. Centre long. Baker has
0:18:24 > 0:18:26
0:18:26 > 0:18:33gone up for that but he has not got it. It is a goal. Equaliser for
0:18:33 > 0:18:39Cheltenham. Flicks it on. Comes back to Mohammed. Jeff Golding for
0:18:39 > 0:18:48Cheltenham Town. He has scored. 21 minutes into the second have.
0:18:48 > 0:18:53Chairman lead 2-1. -- Cheltenham lead. It is going to be Luke
0:18:53 > 0:19:03Garbutt. Luke Garbutt will claim that one. He puts the seal on it
0:19:03 > 0:19:05
0:19:05 > 0:19:08So the Robins are back on the highest branch but Shrewsbury are
0:19:08 > 0:19:10not far behind them. A win on Saturday against local rivals
0:19:10 > 0:19:13Hereford keeps them firmly in the hunt for automatic promotion. The
0:19:13 > 0:19:17Shrewsbury manager Graham Turner was back at Edgar Street where he
0:19:17 > 0:19:20is still regarded as something of a hero for his exploits in charge of
0:19:20 > 0:19:24the Bulls. Alongside him then is a man charged with making sure the
0:19:24 > 0:19:29Shrews are fit for promotion. Laura May McMullan has been to meet him.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31Fancy footwork and formations are one thing. But when it comes to
0:19:31 > 0:19:41strength and power training, there is one tough taskmaster at
0:19:41 > 0:19:45
0:19:45 > 0:19:50Shrewsbury Town. And he comes in the form of the mighty Tony Ford.
0:19:50 > 0:19:54You know the answer to that, my friend. The average squad age here
0:19:54 > 0:20:03is 22. At 73, the Shrews' fitness coach can teach them a thing or two
0:20:03 > 0:20:12and he pushes them all the way. Keep it going now. The write-down.
0:20:12 > 0:20:17Do not stop. Do not ease off. -- right down. Come on. He is always
0:20:17 > 0:20:22in-your-face, pushing you on. You need that when you are lifting
0:20:22 > 0:20:29weights. To compete, you need to be physically in the right way. He is
0:20:29 > 0:20:36so energetic and we are out of breath. He is a good man to have
0:20:36 > 0:20:41around. The exercises we do our for power, pace, sprinting speed,
0:20:41 > 0:20:45working the muscles in an explosive manner. You build enough power so
0:20:45 > 0:20:48you can sort yourself out. And it is no coincidence he is
0:20:48 > 0:20:51helping the team get results. Tony is a former weightlifter who has
0:20:51 > 0:21:01represented Britain 42 times. He was a Commonwealth Games gold
0:21:01 > 0:21:03
0:21:03 > 0:21:11medallist in 1974. It does not matter, yes! He has got it by a
0:21:11 > 0:21:18majority verdict. The judges, 2-1 in favour. It was the easy is
0:21:18 > 0:21:22competition I have had. I can remember it. 170 kilos. I had time
0:21:22 > 0:21:25to spare. I was strong and powerful. The dynamic duo have worked
0:21:25 > 0:21:32together for 25 years and both returned to Edgar Street on
0:21:32 > 0:21:36Saturday. I wasn't sure what greeting I would get.
0:21:36 > 0:21:43But no need to worry, Turner is a hero in the eyes of both sets of
0:21:43 > 0:21:48fans. He did a fantastic job. Destabilise the club financially.
0:21:48 > 0:21:58He put a lot of sacrifice into keeping the club afloat. He is a
0:21:58 > 0:21:58
0:21:58 > 0:22:01living legend. He has made an amazing appearance. It is amazing.
0:22:01 > 0:22:05The visitors come here on course for promotion. They have won six of
0:22:05 > 0:22:15their last ten League games and are currently fifth in the table. And
0:22:15 > 0:22:22
0:22:22 > 0:22:31it was Turner's men who were triumphant with a 2-0 win. Takes a
0:22:31 > 0:22:36shot early, he scores! The game was won in the first half. The service
0:22:36 > 0:22:39was reasonable and the pasta well. Two well-taken goals.
0:22:39 > 0:22:46So a comfortable win for Shrewsbury and it looks like Tony's techniques
0:22:46 > 0:22:50are working. We are not doing it for the beach. We are doing it to
0:22:50 > 0:22:53get strong, to affect the game. Last year Tony was honoured for his
0:22:53 > 0:22:56services to weightlifting. Powering these players to promotion is next
0:22:56 > 0:22:59on his agenda. So what of our other teams in
0:22:59 > 0:23:02League Two? Port Vale's second successive victory lifts them back
0:23:02 > 0:23:12into the top half of the table while Burton remain just outside
0:23:12 > 0:23:18
0:23:18 > 0:23:21and Oxford was eliminated by two outstanding goals. The Brewers took
0:23:21 > 0:23:24an early lead when Adam Bolder finished off a precise passing move.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27The Brewers held the lead until just before the hour when Alfie
0:23:27 > 0:23:29Potter slalomed his way through Burton's defence. 1-1 was the final
0:23:29 > 0:23:32score. Meanwhile, Port Vale followed last
0:23:32 > 0:23:42week's victory at Rotherham with another 1-0 win, this time at home
0:23:42 > 0:23:45
0:23:45 > 0:23:55to Plymouth. Up against young. Down the last win. He scores. Becomes of
0:23:55 > 0:24:01
0:24:01 > 0:24:09the bench and scores. Surely wins Cheltenham are doing a terrific job.
0:24:09 > 0:24:13Mark Yates is a mate of our assistant manager and he fits that
0:24:13 > 0:24:21club. He is a straightforward feller. -- man. He is very
0:24:21 > 0:24:27effective at that level. Birmingham goalkeeper... We were
0:24:27 > 0:24:30alerted to Jack and what he can do. He will be a great goalkeeper.
0:24:30 > 0:24:40is great there are so many opportunities. I remember playing
0:24:40 > 0:24:44
0:24:44 > 0:24:52against him. Getting an opportunity at the local club that have a good
0:24:52 > 0:24:59fan-base, as a former employee, I just want them to make it.
0:24:59 > 0:25:09can't say that. I would be delighted if Cheltenham got it.
0:25:09 > 0:25:14need more people like Tony Ford. Familiarity around a club, you are
0:25:14 > 0:25:20looking to breed an atmosphere in the dressing room and get results.
0:25:20 > 0:25:25If you can have that, with that kind of enthusiasm and 73, it rubs
0:25:25 > 0:25:35off on all the players. They're up to 4th under Graham Turner. You
0:25:35 > 0:25:35
0:25:35 > 0:25:40cannot fault his judgment. You can. He released me from Wolves. No, he
0:25:40 > 0:25:44is a fantastic manager. Graham did a great job for Hereford for many
0:25:44 > 0:25:50years. For a club like Shrewsbury, all those kind of clubs, the aim is
0:25:50 > 0:25:54to get into the Championship some day, to have a decent crowd and to
0:25:54 > 0:25:56make a few quid on cup runs. Nottingham's Diverse Academy, a
0:25:56 > 0:25:59Wolves youngster, a former referee from Wolverhampton and some
0:25:59 > 0:26:07television presenter or other were amongst those honoured at an awards
0:26:07 > 0:26:10ceremony at Wembley. Natalie Jackson has more.
0:26:10 > 0:26:15The Midlands was well represented at the first Asian Football Awards
0:26:15 > 0:26:21which look place last week. 14 trophies were handed out, ranging
0:26:21 > 0:26:24from the Player of the Year to the Grass Roots Hero. Danny Batth, a
0:26:24 > 0:26:28product of the Wolves Academy, is enhancing a growing reputation on
0:26:29 > 0:26:33loan at Sheffield Wednesday. He beat off three fellow Midlanders to
0:26:33 > 0:26:36win the Young Asian Player of the Year. Nottingham's Diverse Academy
0:26:36 > 0:26:42is a partnership between Forest in the Community, Nottingham City
0:26:42 > 0:26:52Council and several community groups. They were recognised as
0:26:52 > 0:26:57Development Project of the Year. are thankful for the impact of the
0:26:57 > 0:27:01project. To get recognition for the voluntary organisations that are
0:27:01 > 0:27:05involved is wonderful. I think this would mean a lot to the young
0:27:05 > 0:27:07people involved. He is a great platform for us to continue to do
0:27:07 > 0:27:10things. Jarnail Singh from Wolverhampton
0:27:10 > 0:27:13was a familiar sight on Football League grounds until he hung up his
0:27:13 > 0:27:23whistle in 2010. He was given the Lifetime Achievement Award.
0:27:23 > 0:27:26
0:27:26 > 0:27:36And then there's the media award. Very pleased to announce one of my
0:27:36 > 0:27:36
0:27:36 > 0:27:46friends has won it. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is very
0:27:46 > 0:27:50
0:27:50 > 0:27:54bizarre. Won it from a category of one!
0:27:54 > 0:28:01British agents in the Premier League, it has kind of dried out.
0:28:01 > 0:28:07Can you see it happening? -- British Asians. There have been a
0:28:07 > 0:28:14few exciting players. Prospects are certainly there. We have talked
0:28:15 > 0:28:20about raised many times on television. It is all about
0:28:20 > 0:28:26inclusion. Do you artificially manipulate the figures? I am torn
0:28:26 > 0:28:32on that. David Beckham is in the States with an American young
0:28:32 > 0:28:36talented player coming through or a black manager in, it will take one
0:28:36 > 0:28:39success for everything to follow. That is it for this evening. Do not
0:28:39 > 0:28:42forget all seven of the Late Kick Off shows from around England will