Episode 9

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:00:24. > :00:28.Good evening, welcome to Late Kick Off. We look at the impact of

:00:28. > :00:35.Twitter on football. It is another way of having a dressing-room

:00:35. > :00:45.banter. Overall I am not obviously an agreement with that. We're back

:00:45. > :00:51.down memory lane. Amazing to see a piece of the old posts. Be Here and

:00:52. > :00:54.Now, the weekend action. Did we have any winners on a words might?

:00:55. > :01:02.Tonight, you'll hear from managers and players from all of our league

:01:02. > :01:05.clubs. And all of our Football League clubs are represented on the

:01:05. > :01:07.sofa. I'm delighted to welcome back the former Hartlepool defender Phil

:01:07. > :01:17.Brown, Carlisle captain Paul Thirlwell plus the one time

:01:17. > :01:52.

:01:52. > :02:02.Middlesbrough midfielder Craig Hignett. The players here have to

:02:02. > :02:05.

:02:05. > :02:15.be very careful. It can be expensive. It has taken off, it has

:02:15. > :02:30.

:02:30. > :02:35.become part of the culture night. It is getting to the point at now a

:02:35. > :02:38.where most footballers are on there and have an account. It has become

:02:38. > :02:42.important for the modern-day footballer. Hundreds of them now

:02:42. > :02:50.embrace the Twitter and it gives them direct access to fans, to get

:02:50. > :02:59.a message across to what they have been doing in their lives. People

:02:59. > :03:03.say, I just got up this morning. Well, that is fantastic! I have set

:03:03. > :03:08.up a feed so I will chat to a lot of the fans on that and they always

:03:08. > :03:12.give me encouragement. Especially in the last few weeks, there has

:03:12. > :03:19.been a lot about footballers being detached from reality and not been

:03:19. > :03:22.in touch with the working-class man. These vehicles, I think you can

:03:22. > :03:32.actually show the human element and show there are real people behind

:03:32. > :03:46.

:03:46. > :03:52.the players. Aid is another way of having dressing-room banter. Now

:03:52. > :04:01.you can do it on an evening or on an away trip. It is a bit of fun at

:04:01. > :04:06.the end of the day. Nobody will divulge anything about what goes on

:04:06. > :04:11.at the training ground, that is to be kept of Twitter. Critical things

:04:11. > :04:17.like criticising other teams and officials, it is really important.

:04:17. > :04:27.I have had some abuse, it is just somebody's opinion. You didn't play

:04:27. > :04:27.

:04:27. > :04:35.very well, that's it of they're and I tend to ignore it. Just finishing

:04:35. > :04:39.up an interview, getting abuse of the lads. It is nice to know what

:04:39. > :04:45.is happening with the players. We get to know that the bus has broken

:04:45. > :04:55.down or whether they will be home from an away match. Invaluable

:04:55. > :05:06.

:05:06. > :05:10.stuff. Or you big Twitter user? Twitter? I have heard of it! I have

:05:11. > :05:19.heard of people and tweeting but I don't know how to do it. A lot of

:05:19. > :05:22.idle gossip. I am obsessed with them when they are wearing a blue

:05:22. > :05:27.and white shirt but I don't really want to know what music they listen

:05:27. > :05:33.to or what car they are driving. And not that much of an obsessive,

:05:33. > :05:37.only on a Saturday afternoon. don't know what he wants to do

:05:37. > :05:42.today or tomorrow and I don't care. It is a load of rubbish. It should

:05:42. > :05:52.be taken off because it is people airing their own personal views,

:05:52. > :05:52.

:05:52. > :05:56.end of story. You've got to be careful with what you put on their.

:05:56. > :06:06.According our players are up slowly beginning to realise how important

:06:06. > :06:07.

:06:07. > :06:13.it can be added can be expensive. It annoys me when one of my players

:06:13. > :06:18.says something stupid. At our club we have had a sit-down discussion

:06:18. > :06:28.just on Twitter to make them a where it is public information. You

:06:28. > :06:33.

:06:33. > :06:41.may as well say it on TV to the watching audience. Barton has been

:06:41. > :06:49.tweeting. One of them is, imagine if I had stamped on song, the

:06:49. > :06:57.Nineties would be calling for my execution. Julie is overstepping

:06:57. > :07:01.the mark saying that newspapers are dead. We still sell millions. The

:07:01. > :07:10.internet sites that we also right for which the Twitter helps to

:07:10. > :07:15.promote. Twitter has given our jobs as journalists are a whole new

:07:15. > :07:18.dimension to report on. Now it when I read the story, I know I will be

:07:18. > :07:23.directly accountable for the way I have ordered every phrase in that

:07:23. > :07:26.story because of byword it wrong, I'll be told on Twitter by the fans.

:07:26. > :07:29.The power of Twitter is what the players because they don't feel

:07:29. > :07:34.that they have to speak to the journalists any more because they

:07:34. > :07:38.can manipulate the situation, they can get across their sign of the

:07:38. > :07:41.story without having any comeback from a superpower is very much with

:07:41. > :07:47.the player and going away from the journalist and as a result of that,

:07:47. > :07:51.the journalists are now using the quotes from Twitter but without

:07:51. > :07:57.that natural conversation that would take place. Overall, I am not

:07:57. > :08:07.in agreement with it. The players might make a derogatory comment

:08:07. > :08:08.

:08:08. > :08:15.about the opposition or worse, about me. That is a joke!

:08:15. > :08:21.It is now a part of a football culture. You love it! I wouldn't

:08:21. > :08:26.say love it, I would have said that I am a big advocate of modern

:08:26. > :08:28.technology. There is a place in the world for Twitter but where

:08:29. > :08:33.football changing rooms are concerned, they are at inner

:08:33. > :08:37.sanctums. We have all been there and we know what it is like when a

:08:37. > :08:41.manager loses the plot with a player and we know that cannot get

:08:41. > :08:45.out. Communication, for me, is important. We cannot play the game

:08:45. > :08:50.of football without communication but when it comes to confidential

:08:50. > :08:57.communication, that has remained in house. The counter argument is that

:08:57. > :09:01.some of that stuff comes out anyway. But they do it to us making it up

:09:01. > :09:08.to a journalist, it has been happening and is more accountable

:09:08. > :09:13.now? That is the beauty of it so for me, is about education. I don't

:09:13. > :09:17.know what it is about but how can you use it as a tool to go forward?

:09:17. > :09:21.The world is all about going forwards. If it is not going away,

:09:21. > :09:28.how can we use it as a tool for us to succeed and for us to be better

:09:28. > :09:36.as managers? We do increasingly get sanitised soundbites from players,

:09:36. > :09:40.they are careful what they say. This is a way they can have an

:09:40. > :09:45.almost a forum with the public? had this conversation before

:09:46. > :09:52.earlier. Sometimes if you are left out of the team or or if something

:09:52. > :09:57.happens you are not happy with, it is so easy to do something and then

:09:57. > :10:03.it is too late. It happens a lot so that is the dangerous side of it.

:10:03. > :10:08.The good side it is, you can City fans what is happening but what the

:10:08. > :10:14.game was like. You don't have to say what the team is going to be

:10:14. > :10:19.next week or who is injured. There is a way of doing it and it is all

:10:19. > :10:25.about education and educating the players. Are you passing that on at

:10:25. > :10:34.Academy level? It is coming into that a lot. Certainly, Twitter has

:10:34. > :10:38.been mentioned. And mobile phones banned from the dressing room area

:10:39. > :10:42.anyway? Yes but what difference does it make? As soon as you go

:10:42. > :10:46.into the car, you can pick your mobile phone up. The dangers thing

:10:46. > :10:50.is, not everyone is nice to you on Twitter and they can make up a

:10:50. > :10:57.profile and say nasty things and that is when you get problems. I am

:10:57. > :11:07.not sure if I was high profile that I would have a Twitter account.

:11:07. > :11:09.

:11:09. > :11:14.you have want and how much is that Than it -- it depends who you fall

:11:14. > :11:20.off. I liked to follow deal Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney. So you

:11:20. > :11:26.are selling as on the appeal of it? Of following certain people? I

:11:26. > :11:31.hated, myself. I you getting guidelines from the club? State

:11:31. > :11:39.secrets that mustn't be late? Does Greg get you together and say, let

:11:39. > :11:45.me make this clear, Knoll weeks from here. Like Phil says, managers

:11:45. > :11:49.can see it as a hindrance. We have all had our guidelines and her

:11:49. > :11:55.sheets with bullet points on it. Things regarding injuries and teams

:11:55. > :12:03.elections. You do not want to give anything away to opponents. Has it

:12:03. > :12:08.given power to the players? To tweets order, to some extent, the

:12:08. > :12:15.journalists are not getting these kids any more? I do not mind power

:12:15. > :12:20.to the players. Players are not powerful in modern-day society. We

:12:20. > :12:27.learned the right to be in the inner sanctum. As a player or coach,

:12:27. > :12:32.you earn the right to play football. That is a respect. They are, if

:12:32. > :12:36.someone sends a tweed, everyone gets into the changing room. If you

:12:36. > :12:42.go back 50 years, players would go down to the pub with fans before

:12:42. > :12:48.the match. Players have become more remote. This is a way to engage

:12:48. > :12:53.with the lifeblood of the game, the supporters. The lifeblood of the

:12:53. > :12:56.game must be engaged with, but the only way to do that is to be the

:12:56. > :13:04.best players and do it on a Saturday between the four white

:13:04. > :13:13.lines. Utter Shermans and owners to be active to what happens online? -

:13:13. > :13:17.- party chairman's and owners. not think so. You will get the lot

:13:17. > :13:22.chairman who will do that, but on the whole I think the chairman know

:13:22. > :13:27.the score. I think Twitter does have a part to play. If you have

:13:27. > :13:33.seen the Queen's Park Rangers documentary, you can see the extent

:13:33. > :13:40.of that. It does not happen in football welly Nellie. I wish that

:13:40. > :13:46.was still on BBC iPlayer. Once you have the right the deal

:13:46. > :13:54.further than sweaters, you can also reach us on Twitter and Facebook.

:13:54. > :13:59.From hashtag to history, or we are heading down memory lane tonight.

:13:59. > :14:04.Now, you might remember a few weeks ago we featured Middlesbrough's 90-

:14:04. > :14:10.year-old recruitment co-ordinator, Jack Watson had been skating for 50

:14:10. > :14:13.years. Sadly, he passed away on Saturday. He was vice-president of

:14:13. > :14:23.Carlisle and also work for Sunderland, Darlington and

:14:23. > :14:24.

:14:24. > :14:29.Hartlepool. Over the years, I have been on

:14:29. > :14:35.every ground in Scotland, except one or two of the new ones. I have

:14:35. > :14:42.been on most of the grounds in England, yes. Jack seems to me as

:14:42. > :14:52.if he has a photographic memory. The people in here are wonderful, I

:14:52. > :15:02.

:15:02. > :15:08.Our thoughts are with a man who you paid tribute to a few weeks ago.

:15:08. > :15:13.is just desperately sad news. And also for his family and friends. He

:15:13. > :15:18.always makes you with a big grin and smiled. He was a fantastic

:15:18. > :15:27.script, still working at 19 years of age. There was a minute's

:15:27. > :15:33.applause for him. -- working at 90 he years of age.

:15:33. > :15:39.What is going on at Riverside Stadium? They just did not get

:15:39. > :15:46.going yesterday. They were poor with to the ball. Really, Leeds

:15:46. > :15:55.deserved to win. They close them down very quickly. Middlesbrough

:15:55. > :16:01.could not get any kind of tempo going to the game. Leeds deserved

:16:01. > :16:05.the win. The sea a sending off here. Barrie Robson. If the referee does

:16:05. > :16:12.his job properly, he will called for a foul when he is getting cold

:16:12. > :16:20.and topped. Two red cards or two yellow cards, to me it is not a red

:16:20. > :16:24.card To the man who has the ball. E-fit goes into the Birdcage.

:16:24. > :16:33.not think anyone was gathering around the rest of the or insisting

:16:33. > :16:39.four red cards. -- the foot goes into the ribcage. I must ask about

:16:39. > :16:45.but a's disciplinary record. A lovely ball plain side has five

:16:45. > :16:49.sendings-off in the past nine week -- league games. He will not be too

:16:49. > :16:53.bothered about players getting sent off, it is about whether people

:16:53. > :16:58.played good football. Tony loves football playing the right way.

:16:58. > :17:06.They did not get the game going. That will frustrate him most -- the

:17:06. > :17:13.most. Out of five, three where difficult. Kevin Thomson has been

:17:13. > :17:17.sent off. That was a joke. Some of the refereeing has been awful.

:17:17. > :17:25.well-known Aussie soap theme could be applied. I am talking about

:17:25. > :17:31.home-and-away. There you go, you win at home with a keyless a record,

:17:31. > :17:37.but come tenth September away from home, you are rubbish.

:17:37. > :17:42.I will let you off because you are wearing a nice cardigan. We have

:17:43. > :17:49.not been too good away from home. On Saturday we went a goal down. We

:17:49. > :17:54.always feel at home and try to score goals. We managed to get four.

:17:54. > :18:01.One of the papers mentioned that there had been a few boos about a

:18:01. > :18:08.substitution. The sub scored what was the winning goal. Did you hear

:18:08. > :18:12.the bruised? I did not. All I could hear was the call for substitution.

:18:12. > :18:21.He came on in the 70th minute and for 12 minutes he was fantastic and

:18:21. > :18:26.scored. Jack Watson was obviously the person who advised that we

:18:27. > :18:31.Miller. He has made a big contribution. Having a proper

:18:31. > :18:37.centre-forward can make a huge difference. We thanked him for that.

:18:37. > :18:41.Everyone involved appreciates the job he has done. His debut at

:18:41. > :18:45.Leyton Orient and scoring, he has continued to do so for the rest of

:18:45. > :18:50.the season. We will get the boring bit out of

:18:50. > :18:54.the way. Neale Cooper described the game at Walsall. The machine that

:18:54. > :19:02.films the match broke down because it would not record such a bad

:19:03. > :19:08.match. Here is the incident. That is it. And there is Hartlepool.

:19:09. > :19:12.Neale Cooper played the answers. That is very encouraging from any

:19:12. > :19:18.manager's point of view. I believe someone was injured in the warm-up,

:19:19. > :19:22.and the 17-year-old made his debut. There were 17-year-old, 18-year-old

:19:22. > :19:27.Sand 19-year-old. Platt -- fantastic play in the league

:19:27. > :19:31.football, great to see. At the Football League awards last night,

:19:31. > :19:37.I was costing again. This is me before the skinful I had in the

:19:37. > :19:40.middle of the night. Not a lot on our patch apart from Hartlepool

:19:40. > :19:50.winning best marketing campaign for their argue coming to pull's

:19:50. > :19:51.

:19:51. > :19:59.initiative? -- are equally to Poole's? Initiative. Come to pools!

:19:59. > :20:06.Come tipples! You can spend your money smartly when you come to

:20:06. > :20:12.pools! Altogether now!

:20:12. > :20:16.I had not seen that. I saw it for the first time yesterday. What a

:20:16. > :20:23.great initiative. In one of the most deprived and depressed areas

:20:23. > :20:28.of the country. The season ticket sales have gone up by, what, 30%?

:20:28. > :20:34.It was brilliant. Many people took them up on the offer. It was a pity

:20:34. > :20:40.the home form was not great. It was the or 4,000 to drop off and

:20:40. > :20:44.stopped going, but hopefully they will come back. Earlier, we had the

:20:44. > :20:48.whole new ball game of Twitter, and now to an old football favourite.

:20:48. > :20:54.Memorabilia. You have around one month if you want to get down to

:20:54. > :20:58.the museum to see but a's back from the big exhibition, which

:20:58. > :21:06.celebrates the club's anniversary. The lead singer of Max Moore Park

:21:06. > :21:16.is a huge fan and is here to check out his club's greatest had.

:21:16. > :21:26.

:21:26. > :21:30.What we have here is an exhibition that has its starting point in 1986,

:21:30. > :21:36.when Middlesbrough came 37 minutes from going out of business

:21:36. > :21:40.altogether. We're then celebrating the 25 years that came after that,

:21:40. > :21:45.what he would have missed. Life would have been poorer without it.

:21:45. > :21:49.This is a collection from Van's loft and the Football Club.

:21:49. > :21:59.Everything has been put together. It is great to see it has been

:21:59. > :22:04.

:22:04. > :22:08.recognised as being so important. It is quite quaint. I all of a

:22:08. > :22:15.local municipal galleries and museums where people are trying to

:22:15. > :22:24.keep something alive from the local area and I guess it is an act of

:22:24. > :22:30.devotion on their part. This brings us into an even of

:22:30. > :22:40.football that is kind of dying out now. Just this giant metal thing

:22:40. > :22:51.

:22:51. > :22:58.reminds me of going to the old This item was a complete surprise

:22:58. > :23:02.to me. I knew nothing about it. A papal blessing. And also, a lot of

:23:02. > :23:06.the players who have been were really surprised by it. It is an

:23:06. > :23:13.incredible thing, because there will was just an amazing player,

:23:13. > :23:23.the golden boy who came from -- the local lad. He was the George Best

:23:23. > :23:25.

:23:25. > :23:30.of his ear. Here we had a blessing It is amazing to see a piece of the

:23:30. > :23:36.old post from the park. Middlesbrough now, when you see it,

:23:36. > :23:39.you do not really thinks so much of the park, and that was my first

:23:39. > :23:43.experience of going to a football match. Walking through the town on

:23:43. > :23:51.the way to a game, you do not know what is going to happen. It was a

:23:51. > :23:56.romantic old ground. I particularly like this case

:23:56. > :24:00.because it is the seven hat-trick ball will bear nicely done. I do

:24:00. > :24:04.not suppose too many footballers have scored this many hat-tricks

:24:04. > :24:09.for their club. We have medals Barnard, you have Tony Mowbray at

:24:09. > :24:14.the helm now. -- with Middlesbrough. You can only inspire other people

:24:14. > :24:20.to come down and take an interest in with -- in were the club has

:24:21. > :24:30.come from and Brevett might going in the future. -- and where it

:24:31. > :24:38.

:24:38. > :24:42.You just come in here and you preach in the sounds and the site.

:24:42. > :24:47.-- and you breathe aim of the sounds and the sites. That is a

:24:47. > :24:51.passion rather than an obsession. It means a lot to people, they live

:24:51. > :25:01.their lives outside of that. It is a common bond. It brings people

:25:01. > :25:04.

:25:04. > :25:11.People like to keep their expedience somehow. We all have

:25:11. > :25:16.memories. We all invest so much in football. If you are a fan, for 90

:25:16. > :25:26.minutes you go through the wringer of emotions, High and Low. You want

:25:26. > :25:33.

:25:33. > :25:37.to remember that, you do not want I do not know what it is about

:25:37. > :25:43.Middlesbrough players and papal blessings, because if I remember,

:25:43. > :25:50.Bernard's lay them got one. That must be like a walk through your

:25:50. > :25:56.life. Have you been yet? I have not, but I will go very soon. I spoke to

:25:56. > :25:58.Gary Pallister and he said it was really good. The way that the stuff

:25:58. > :26:07.gets pulled together, we thought we would be well a little something

:26:07. > :26:11.for you. Have a look at this! What about that? Gorgeous! And you still

:26:11. > :26:19.have the sit, obviously you do not have the hair. I would not fit in

:26:19. > :26:26.the side now. They have a corker of you now. All my lords, that is me

:26:26. > :26:34.on the left-hand side. If you want to come on this

:26:34. > :26:38.programme again that is enough! It looks like a wet, doesn't it?

:26:38. > :26:44.in a music band, they beat combo. That was the publicity photo that

:26:44. > :26:50.accompany it. Some backing vocals and the car.

:26:50. > :26:55.Can we talk about Sunderland their? Going for a place in the FA; -- FA

:26:55. > :27:00.Cup semi-finals. What a brilliant job the manager has done. This

:27:00. > :27:03.could be a real touch paper moment. If they can get over their Berti

:27:03. > :27:08.form at Goodison Park. They could get themselves a place in the FA

:27:08. > :27:12.Cup. I do not think it is so much the form at Goodison Park. Everton

:27:12. > :27:20.will be on the back of the Wandel victory at Tottenham. Tottenham

:27:20. > :27:23.battered them in the second half. - - the back of a won't snow victory.

:27:24. > :27:31.I have a sneaking fancy for Sunderland to go all the way this

:27:31. > :27:36.year. What about Michael Turner, that you know from your time at

:27:36. > :27:40.whole? We mentioned Martin O'Neill, Steve Bruce need to take some

:27:40. > :27:45.credit for bringing the players in. Where Michael is concerned, he

:27:45. > :27:49.always had the ambition to play for a bigger club than whole city. That

:27:49. > :27:53.is not being disrespectful to the Tigers, but he had his head turned

:27:53. > :27:57.by clubs like Liverpool and Manchester United. He was knocking

:27:57. > :28:01.on the door of the England team. Sunderland came along and he jumped

:28:01. > :28:06.at the chance to make that next progression, that transition to a

:28:06. > :28:10.bigger club. He is having a fantastic season. He is playing

:28:10. > :28:17.alongside a class player, John O'Shea. He is going well at the

:28:17. > :28:23.moment. Paul, for clean sheets at the moment. Only seven goals

:28:23. > :28:30.conceded in the past eight games, and that is not, isn't it? It is.

:28:30. > :28:35.It has been a fantastic start since Martin has gone in. In 2004 be got

:28:35. > :28:39.to the semi-finals, hopefully we can take it that step further and