Episode 8

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:00:14. > :00:24.Money. So that is what it looks like. Is it time to cover the crazy

:00:24. > :00:32.

:00:32. > :00:38.waiters of football? Family feud at Swindon Oxford. Why these brothers

:00:38. > :00:41.are sworn enemies two days a year. And not the usual 365.

:00:41. > :00:47.The Port side in a worsening storm. Buckets are out as former owner

:00:47. > :00:52.moves to return. There's all the goals that went in,

:00:52. > :01:02.and some of those that didn't. And find out why this famous face

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:01:02. > :01:07.once threatened a national strike. I think we achieved more less than

:01:07. > :01:10.thing that the current benefit football. -- more or less. Hello

:01:10. > :01:13.and thanks for joining us - all that plus extended highlights of

:01:13. > :01:16.Crawley and Southend. And here in the studio, Graeme Murty and Leroy

:01:16. > :01:21.Rosenior, with more opinions than an Irish wrestler. Today, we begin

:01:21. > :01:24.with derby action! Oxford versus Swindon - it may not be up there

:01:24. > :01:27.with your classic hardcore cross town clashes, but when the Us and

:01:27. > :01:30.the Robins get it on, it can be just as intense. Particularly for

:01:30. > :01:33.one family in Oxford, where one brother supports oxford, and the

:01:33. > :01:36.other is a Swindon fan. With a relative disaster in store for

:01:36. > :01:45.someone, here's how their derby day and plenty of other fans, panned

:01:45. > :01:50.out. Tony Husband reports. While the fans from both sides of were

:01:50. > :01:56.being cajoled into their sections, the stadium car-park was just about

:01:56. > :01:59.neutrals ground for these brothers. Mike works in Swindon but the

:01:59. > :02:06.family moved to Oxford where younger brother Adrian learned to

:02:06. > :02:16.love football and Oxford. Living and working amongst Oxford fans, I

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:02:20. > :02:22.would get stick. One familiar face it centres on one centre-half. The

:02:22. > :02:32.controversy would centre around a centre-forward, famous at both

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:02:34. > :02:43.clubs. It is a red card! It will be homes with the cake... And they

:02:43. > :02:53.have scored! -- the kick. exciting. Just bubbling with

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:03:10. > :03:12.excitement. He has gone in with his That are there it! Unbelievable!

:03:12. > :03:22.is the result we have waited for is the result we have waited for

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:03:23. > :03:32.for years. Brilliant, you can't say much more. At the end of the day, I

:03:32. > :03:37.didn't see my players in the second half. It just wasn't there.

:03:37. > :03:44.going home to brag to the son-in- law now. He is an ardent Swindon

:03:44. > :03:54.supporter. Emotions ran deep in this one. Oxford's first league

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:03:55. > :04:04.double over Swindon since 1973. was a fantastic result. We saw him

:04:04. > :04:10.making two goals. It is good see young players have getting the

:04:10. > :04:20.right of experience. Still to come. More on League Two later including

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:04:21. > :04:24.highlights from tonight's show down. It's another big night in the

:04:24. > :04:28.promotion race. 5 of our teams in the hunt, and Crawley's match with

:04:28. > :04:31.Southend will have a bearing on all their fortunes. Plus Jimmy Hill -

:04:31. > :04:40.Union boss in a bygone age. But what did he say to this fit and

:04:40. > :04:47.proper chap? The alternative is a player's strike. Now, more action!

:04:47. > :04:52.And into the championship we go, starting with Southampton at Leeds.

:04:53. > :05:00.As a former strikers, I love to watch players like this one. This

:05:00. > :05:10.is his 23rd goal of a campaign. The star man the Saints was the

:05:10. > :05:23.

:05:23. > :05:29.goalkeeper. He stands up -- beak. - - big. I think he has got five

:05:29. > :05:39.years left in the tank. I've got a really good feeling about Brighton

:05:39. > :05:42.

:05:42. > :05:52.making the player. They are put in front at Doncaster, but Brighton

:05:52. > :05:57.are still going strong. One point for Bristol City in their last

:05:57. > :06:01.seven matches is awful. In October, they were bottom of the

:06:01. > :06:09.championship. They would be in the bottom three were it not for

:06:09. > :06:19.Portsmouth's points deduction. Fingers crossed, they should be OK.

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:06:21. > :06:31.Six wins in a row for Reading. Millwall took the lead, prior -- by

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:06:34. > :06:44.modem of reckons this is the best Reading had won a couple of weeks

:06:44. > :06:48.

:06:48. > :06:53.Reading had won a couple of weeks That is how the table looks.

:06:53. > :06:56.Brighton hovering on the edge of the play-off spot. At the bottom,

:06:56. > :07:01.but to -- Bristol City just outside but to -- Bristol City just outside

:07:01. > :07:11.the bottom three. Portsmouth in the bottom three. Portsmouth in

:07:11. > :07:13.

:07:13. > :07:20.trouble were. Lovely to see the reaction from his team-mates.

:07:20. > :07:30.don't see goalkeepers reacting like that, not during the game. It is

:07:30. > :07:31.

:07:31. > :07:41.always the forwards who need a cuddle when they score a goal!

:07:41. > :07:47.other odd side is Reading. They are fast learners. Millwall pushed it

:07:48. > :07:55.really well. This happened to Reading not long ago, playing

:07:55. > :08:01.against Hull. He was offside, he realised he would have to let the

:08:01. > :08:11.guy who was not offside through. Reading learned, played to the

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:08:18. > :08:21.whistle. I have not happy. I hated. It teaches bad habits. Reading are

:08:21. > :08:26.going to be taking on Portsmouth tomorrow in the championship after

:08:27. > :08:36.what has been a difficult week for Pompey. Let's look at the latest

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:08:39. > :08:41.developments. Balram Chanrai could again become owner. The club's

:08:41. > :08:44.largest debtor may re-take the reins. Portsmouth and Glasgow

:08:44. > :08:47.Rangers are discussing a fund- raising match between the two cash

:08:47. > :08:51.strapped clubs. This follows a week in which captain Liam Lawrence was

:08:51. > :08:54.loaned out, to ease the strain of the wage bill. And Middlesbrough

:08:54. > :09:02.took all the points at Fratton Park, where the bucket collectors were

:09:02. > :09:07.out in force. What reaction having had today? It is a little bit next.

:09:07. > :09:17.Some supporters are giving us money and some are saying, it is too late.

:09:17. > :09:28.

:09:28. > :09:36.Do you think the club will cease to exist in the next few weeks? Ears

:09:36. > :09:46.sounds very much like it. It is impossible to understand. -- it

:09:46. > :09:47.

:09:47. > :09:57.They deserve a football team. Him very well find solutions to make

:09:57. > :10:07.that happen. -- hopefully, they will find solutions. Can you

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:10:10. > :10:16.Brave stuff there, collecting coins. It makes you a bit mad when you see

:10:16. > :10:26.the tiny sums that musket collected and the amount of money that has

:10:26. > :10:30.

:10:30. > :10:36.been taken away from the club. There are many players... A top

:10:36. > :10:41.Premier League side. It has been down to the owner and the owner has

:10:41. > :10:51.not been able to afford it. That is why there in the problems that

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:10:53. > :10:56.therein. -- why they are in the problems that they are in. If you

:10:56. > :10:58.have any thoughts on Chanrai's possible return, or any of

:10:58. > :11:02.tonight's topics, let us know on Twitter. The situation for many

:11:02. > :11:05.clubs is getting desperate, and one of the prime reasons for that, is

:11:05. > :11:08.players wages. 50 years ago, though, the problem was quite the opposite.

:11:08. > :11:11.Back then a strict wage cap meant no footballer was allowed to earn

:11:11. > :11:14.more than �20 a week. Until, in 1961, one player, Jimmy Hill,

:11:14. > :11:16.changed all that. As boss of the players union, he led his fellow

:11:16. > :11:19.professionals in a threatened strike action, that finally

:11:19. > :11:22.overthrew the clubs, a cosy cartel. For many years Jimmy's been a

:11:22. > :11:32.Sussex resident, and half a century on from his triumph, he looked back

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:11:34. > :11:39.with Andy Steggall. You spoke of giving the club's one more chance.

:11:39. > :11:49.Is the one more chance a price -- a player's strike? If the thing isn't

:11:49. > :11:50.

:11:50. > :11:55.resolved, they will withdraw their It is a time when Castro has

:11:55. > :12:02.revolutionary ferment. Berlin is torn apart as the Soviet Union

:12:02. > :12:08.built the war. And England's footballers are preaching rebellion

:12:08. > :12:16.thanks to the chairman of the P FA. Back then he played hard and

:12:16. > :12:22.canvassed even harder in search of a fair deal. Being naturally �20 a

:12:22. > :12:26.week was not enough for what we were doing. When you think how many

:12:26. > :12:36.people were watching. The player who benefited most was Johnny

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:12:45. > :12:51.Haynes. I must have made quite an argument. To have done that! It is

:12:51. > :13:00.strange. We were �20 a week before and �100 a week is a little

:13:00. > :13:05.different, isn't it? You hoped Mr Pompey would be on your side and

:13:05. > :13:12.you would end up with a win. Crawford played under the Financial

:13:12. > :13:19.yoke of the maximum wage. If you're Jimmy Dickinson that he played 50

:13:19. > :13:27.games for England for Stanley Matthews or Tom Finney, �20. �4 for

:13:27. > :13:32.a win or �2 for a draw. In the summer? Down to �12. Ray and many

:13:32. > :13:38.fans still walk to Fratton Park under a reminder of a different era.

:13:38. > :13:42.Five and six for a good few, that is 27.5 pence. Like great many

:13:42. > :13:47.players came to football straight from national service. Rate left

:13:47. > :13:52.the Malayan jungle to walk under Fratton Park turf where training

:13:52. > :13:56.never included a football. Thousands of times I must have won

:13:56. > :14:02.round this pitch. Did they let you play with a football during the

:14:02. > :14:05.week? No, definitely not. He had won on the end of a string for the

:14:06. > :14:11.heading of the ball but not on the pitch. Many thousands were drawn to

:14:11. > :14:15.the game. The gate receipts going to the clubs not the stars. The

:14:15. > :14:20.club players debated the situation in halls and pubs across the land.

:14:20. > :14:25.The decision was overwhelming - to threaten strike action for a decent

:14:25. > :14:30.wage. The mood was high, we were going to strike all over the

:14:30. > :14:36.country. We were four days away from striking. It was a great fight

:14:36. > :14:43.for us to say we wanted to get rid of the maximum wage and you pay as

:14:43. > :14:48.as much as you can afford. Which is what happened. An agreement has

:14:48. > :14:53.been reached. It has been reached in a spirit of good will from both

:14:53. > :14:57.sides. I think that as far as those who play football and those who run

:14:57. > :15:02.the league, this is good news. Also good news for the British public

:15:02. > :15:08.and for sport in general. What the for about the outcome of this

:15:08. > :15:13.meeting? I feel very happy at this moment and every fan is feeling

:15:13. > :15:18.happy with me. Do you feel you have achieved all you have been fighting

:15:18. > :15:25.for? Not all, I do not think we would have settled it if we

:15:25. > :15:29.achieved everything. But I think we have achieved more or less the

:15:29. > :15:32.things that will benefit football which is the important thing.

:15:32. > :15:42.do you think about the money professional footballers are making

:15:42. > :15:44.

:15:44. > :15:48.now? Well, they are lucky. We owe Jimmy Hill a fair deal of gratitude.

:15:48. > :15:53.One thing that struck me was training with no forkfuls during

:15:53. > :16:01.the week. What was the reason? thought they would be more hungry

:16:01. > :16:07.for the football on the weekend. All the level would be a but a

:16:07. > :16:11.desperate for the ball. Amazing. Everybody owes him a debt of

:16:11. > :16:17.gratitude but he revolutionised prospects for a footballer. Jimmy

:16:17. > :16:21.is an extraordinary man, a forward- thinking man. He had all the

:16:21. > :16:28.players doing in media training and he was the first man to think of a

:16:28. > :16:35.lot of things. We will revisit the whole wage cap business later on in

:16:35. > :16:41.our debate but right now on to some lead One action starting with yodel

:16:41. > :16:51.playing the B team. -- yodel. Huge win for Yeovil kept

:16:51. > :16:57.

:16:57. > :17:03.up their results. Andy will be done This one was a totally different

:17:03. > :17:11.type of goal. When strikers keep going you feel something will fall

:17:11. > :17:17.for them and it did here. Eight goals in his last eight appearances.

:17:17. > :17:27.My old team-mate is back at Exeter. He is unlucky to see it not in the

:17:27. > :17:28.

:17:28. > :17:32.net. It was saved for Richard Logan. A composed finished. The luck

:17:32. > :17:36.changed in the second half. Stevenage having it all with this

:17:36. > :17:41.equaliser off both posts and into the net. Exeter need to win those

:17:41. > :17:45.games. Wycombe have the worst defensive record in the Football

:17:45. > :17:50.League and this is why. The defending was awful. No pressure on

:17:50. > :17:56.the ball, people are marked in the box and their reaction, no sense of

:17:56. > :18:04.danger. The most important thing is to sense danger. They did not hear.

:18:04. > :18:09.Two goals down against a 10 man Scunthorpe, disappointing. Scum

:18:09. > :18:19.from first to the ball. Nine defeats in the 12 games. --

:18:19. > :18:19.

:18:19. > :18:24.Lee Bradbury is getting sick of seeing his team unlucky. But they

:18:24. > :18:31.did deserve a lot more than conceding in stoppage time. Four

:18:31. > :18:35.defeats in a row for Bournemouth. I'm not sure what Mrs de name will

:18:35. > :18:40.have to say about this. Bournemouth's dropping to 12th

:18:40. > :18:44.place. Eight point of the play-offs. Further down Yeovil are three clear

:18:44. > :18:50.of the drop, Exeter just the one and Wycombe now five points from

:18:50. > :18:53.safety. We have all heard some pretty good Andy Williams records

:18:53. > :18:58.by a few better than eight goals in the last nine matches. What has

:18:59. > :19:04.happened? Since Gary Johnson has come in. This first goal is

:19:04. > :19:09.wonderful. He used the defender as a guide to whip it round. The

:19:09. > :19:15.cadres of that, the technique he used there is top notch. He is,

:19:15. > :19:20.real quality. Gary has the habit of getting the best out of players and

:19:20. > :19:25.Andy is at the top. Sensing danger you said you had to ask Graham

:19:25. > :19:29.about sensing danger. You have to see what is on and the problem is

:19:29. > :19:35.when you are struggling, low in confidence, you go into a shell and

:19:35. > :19:40.worry about your own game and not help anyone else in the team.

:19:40. > :19:42.Wycombe are in need of a lot of teamwork.

:19:42. > :19:46.Last week's extra time asked, should we split the lower leagues

:19:46. > :19:52.into North and South. And Murts won hands down with an emphatic NOT

:19:52. > :19:55.EVER. Here's some of the reactions. Sam Ward, on Facebook. "I'm an

:19:55. > :19:58.Exeter fan and love the long journeys as well, following your

:19:58. > :20:01.team through thick and thin." Evans Tweeted, "Please don't

:20:01. > :20:04.REGIONALISE matches - The Football League Trophy does that job."

:20:04. > :20:10.Nathan Bees Tweeted, "You have your best memories as players on away

:20:10. > :20:13.trips, it's the same for the fans! The longer the trip the better!"

:20:13. > :20:16.This week, in the light of the financial problems around, and

:20:16. > :20:21.inspired by that talk of Jimmy Hill's battle before, we ask is it

:20:21. > :20:31.time to turn the clocks back and RE-IMPOSE a wage cap. 60 seconds on

:20:31. > :20:37.the clock. Leroy to back a wage cap. Go. There should be. In terms of

:20:37. > :20:39.the income they get, 6% of their income so the clubs do not go into

:20:40. > :20:44.administration and players know there is a maximum wage at the club

:20:44. > :20:49.and they will be happy with that. Do not punish the players for

:20:49. > :20:53.chronic mismanagement. You will see a scenario where the bigger clubs

:20:53. > :20:57.get bigger and pay whatever it takes with him that to get a lead

:20:57. > :21:00.core of the best players in the world and then they will stop it

:21:00. > :21:07.with young kids that will cost them nothing in the grand scheme of

:21:07. > :21:12.things. The better clubs with the better people in charge of find a

:21:12. > :21:17.way to do it and the gap will get bigger. The money people have to

:21:17. > :21:21.make sure they do not do that. The supporters will be punished because

:21:21. > :21:24.they have we have read the ones without a club. The players will be

:21:24. > :21:34.happy with a maximum wage and be paid week-in and week-out and

:21:34. > :21:35.

:21:35. > :21:45.football has to be sustainable. still think you are wrong. Your 3-0

:21:45. > :21:49.

:21:49. > :21:52.score so far, you might see the way That is not maximum wage, that is

:21:52. > :21:56.maximum percentage of turnover. A different argument.

:21:56. > :21:58.League Two action now, and it's a busy week for Crawley - in action

:21:58. > :22:01.tonight against promotion rivals Southend, and we'll see that

:22:01. > :22:11.shortly, but they were also in action on Saturday, hoping to let

:22:11. > :22:21.their football do the Torquay. Torquay keeper Robert Bellis Nick

:22:21. > :22:34.

:22:34. > :22:39.made this saved after just 10 Bournemouth with two up at

:22:39. > :22:44.Cheltenham. Cheltenham showed good attitude. They get back into it did

:22:44. > :22:50.this penalty given for handball. Look at the urgency after he takes

:22:50. > :22:56.the penalty. They know there is a chance because Swindon lost. Duffy

:22:56. > :23:06.gets the equaliser as well. Good attitude as I said but they missed

:23:06. > :23:07.

:23:07. > :23:17.a big chance there. Just watch this header from Aldershot's player. A

:23:17. > :23:19.

:23:19. > :23:27.new club record for them, six wins on the trot. Aldershot ended on a

:23:27. > :23:33.low with a red card. A solid Rovers came up against an inform keeper in

:23:33. > :23:39.Macclesfield, Richard O'Donnell. Good appointment of Mark McGhee.

:23:39. > :23:42.Are you happy? You should be. Plymouth's unbeaten run came to an

:23:42. > :23:50.end with a great strike from Gillingham's a Joan Martin who was

:23:50. > :23:58.later sent off. It is a difficult one in four of them I hope they can

:23:58. > :23:59.be out of the bottom two by the end be out of the bottom two by the end

:23:59. > :24:09.be out of the bottom two by the end of the season. He is what the

:24:09. > :24:12.

:24:12. > :24:17.bottom looks like. Here they are Things looking difficult for

:24:17. > :24:22.Plymouth and their manager not experienced at this kind of thing.

:24:22. > :24:27.We were talking earlier and you think he needs to take a backward

:24:27. > :24:32.step. Yes he is a young man and when you're in it, you need to come

:24:32. > :24:37.out of it to see the wood from the trees. Sometimes when you have lots

:24:37. > :24:43.of games you are not doing a lot of training, so have a couple of days

:24:43. > :24:45.off because it is intense and come back with new batteries. It needs

:24:45. > :24:48.something So, Crawley, 1 win in 8 for Steve

:24:48. > :24:50.Evans' men, dropping from promotion favourites to the fringe of the

:24:50. > :24:57.playoff places. Would it be, Crawley from the wreckage tonight,

:24:57. > :25:01.against Southend? Let's find out with John Roder.

:25:02. > :25:03.Difficult conditions on the Essex Difficult conditions on the Essex

:25:03. > :25:12.coast for both these sides. A strong wind behind them in the

:25:12. > :25:22.first half. Davies with the free kick. Picked up by Neil Harris.

:25:22. > :25:23.

:25:23. > :25:28.Davies is there. Teasing shot. Good save. First good opportunity for

:25:28. > :25:38.Crawley. Who now have some defending to do. It is Harris at

:25:38. > :25:42.

:25:42. > :25:50.the other end. Drags his shot wide. Simpson is on that far side. It is

:25:50. > :25:55.Josh Sims and. Clarke! That has to be handball, it is a penalty! Chris

:25:55. > :26:03.Barker and he knows what is coming. The Southend captain, it is a red

:26:03. > :26:12.card. Southend down to 10. Barca in the goal. Clearly uses his arm to

:26:12. > :26:20.block the shot. Can and Billy Clarke get his first goal for

:26:20. > :26:29.Crawley? Up against Cameron Belford. Belford saves it. And gathers the

:26:30. > :26:39.rebound. An opportunity that Crawley and Billy Clarke simply

:26:39. > :26:49.could not take. Good hype from the goalkeeper to make the block. --

:26:49. > :26:55.

:26:55. > :27:04.good height. Cummings. Dickinson with the challenge. Dickinson is

:27:04. > :27:09.signalling to the bench. He is in a lot of trouble here. Problem now

:27:09. > :27:12.for Southend. They will have to play the final 10 minutes and added

:27:12. > :27:21.time with only nine men having used all three of their substitutes.

:27:21. > :27:26.Cummings. Toros couldn't get there. Clarke! Just get the feeling it is

:27:26. > :27:28.not going to be Crawley's a night. not going to be Crawley's a night.

:27:29. > :27:32.not going to be Crawley's a night. And so there is the top of League

:27:32. > :27:37.two. Southend moving a point closer to Cheltenham and Swindon and

:27:37. > :27:43.Crawley still between Torquay and Oxford. Aldershot making their way

:27:43. > :27:49.to the top half of the table. Less impressive from Crawley. Just one

:27:50. > :27:55.point against a nine man Southend. A big chance with the penalty. And

:27:55. > :28:01.you have to take these chances. We see deliberate movement of the

:28:02. > :28:07.armed at least he did not catch it. What do you make of the penalty?

:28:07. > :28:10.was his shot stopped on the line. Cameron Belford has come up with a

:28:10. > :28:18.good save but it is not a good height. You have to hit the roof of

:28:18. > :28:22.the net. Just one win in nine for Crawley. Since they lost a striker

:28:22. > :28:27.and you cannot score goals and if you can't score goals you can't get