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:00:12. > :00:22.The countdown to the end of the season starts now. Welcome back to

:00:22. > :00:31.

:00:31. > :00:37.On the on the road to promotion but can Huddersfield keep hold of their

:00:37. > :00:41.sensation. He won't be sold it's not possible. The Wednesday fans

:00:41. > :00:47.her definitely into Milan. changed everything. Good players

:00:47. > :00:51.coming end - brilliant. Good evening. It seems like it's

:00:51. > :00:54.been a long time, but we're back for the long run-in - and with me

:00:54. > :00:57.for day one, is the former boss of Scunthorpe & Sheffield Wednesday

:00:57. > :01:00.Brian Laws, and the man who led Hull City into the Premier League,

:01:00. > :01:03.Mr Phil Brown. And throughout the series you can get in touch via

:01:03. > :01:08.twitter. Tweet me directly @guymowbray or the producer would

:01:08. > :01:11.love to pretend he's got friends too, get him via @bbclkoyl. Get

:01:11. > :01:18.tweeting. But there's only really one place

:01:18. > :01:21.we can start this week. I'm sure you've seen the news over the

:01:21. > :01:23.weekend about Dean Windass, our friend on Late Kick Off, my friend,

:01:23. > :01:30.who's revealed that since retirement he's been struggling

:01:30. > :01:35.with depression. Indeed on two occasions he even attempted suicide.

:01:35. > :01:40.You're his manager at Hull, the news shocked me to the course. As

:01:40. > :01:45.put to him yesterday and he's doing OK but it is an ongoing situation.

:01:45. > :01:50.I was as shocked as you were. I got a phone call when I was walking the

:01:50. > :01:55.dogs to say had I seen the front page of the people. Obviously, I

:01:55. > :02:02.bought and read the story. That picture that you showed of Dean in

:02:02. > :02:07.front of the fans - his beloved France. He was born and bred in

:02:07. > :02:13.Hull and supported them as a kid. You can just imagine him being a

:02:13. > :02:22.bomb -- a wants that. We thought of the moment he jumped up and saluted

:02:22. > :02:28.the fans, it was a typical Dean Windass prank. This one was not a

:02:28. > :02:33.Dean Windass prank, it shocked me. We will revisit the subject. It

:02:33. > :02:39.keeps cropping up - a common topic of conversation for sportspeople,

:02:39. > :02:44.what happens when it finishes? is the sad part. Nobody understands

:02:45. > :02:50.and less you are in the sport. Dean has been in the sport from day one,

:02:50. > :02:55.born through it and had many years of success and enjoyment. It is

:02:55. > :03:00.such an adrenalin rush. It is not like any other industry. When you

:03:00. > :03:06.come out of it and it stops immediately, where is your

:03:06. > :03:11.adrenalin rush. It is like a drug and you need it. I think he missed

:03:11. > :03:17.that. He has not gone into the management side, which is second

:03:17. > :03:26.best. He cannot play, coach or manager. Been just cut it short and

:03:26. > :03:31.is not involved any more. That has not helped him at all. There aren't

:03:31. > :03:36.enough coach jobs for everyone so something must fill the gap.

:03:36. > :03:41.think the media work he was doing at first filled a gap. His face was

:03:41. > :03:47.on TV and people were listening to them about football but you have to

:03:47. > :03:52.go home at the end of the night and back to the family. Your family and

:03:52. > :03:56.friends are the most important people. When you have finished your

:03:56. > :04:04.fit bolt, they are the most important people. Deane has to

:04:04. > :04:08.understand, what made him as a player. He had tough times, he was

:04:08. > :04:13.bent by Brian Horton in the early days. He went back on the building

:04:13. > :04:19.sites and one his opportunity to come back to fit all. He has gone

:04:19. > :04:26.from good times to bat times to that magnificent moment at Wembley.

:04:26. > :04:30.-- football. Howdy come down from that and where do you go? He has to

:04:30. > :04:35.understand he is a strong character and he will come through this.

:04:35. > :04:41.has friends. We know you're watching and we send you nothing

:04:41. > :04:44.but best wishes. On we go, to the most talked about

:04:44. > :04:46.striker in English Football outside the Premier League. Huddersfield

:04:46. > :04:50.Town's Jordan Rhodes has scored more hat-tricks this season than

:04:50. > :04:55.I've scored in a lifetime of five- a-side! Rob Jones has been to see

:04:55. > :05:05.him to discover how he does it. Huddersfield Town are right in the

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:05:05. > :05:09.middle of the leadership battle. Huddersfield's charge to the

:05:09. > :05:13.championship is spearheaded by a strike could Jordan Rhodes. He has

:05:13. > :05:23.been crucial this season and been putting up some impressive numbers

:05:23. > :05:40.

:05:40. > :05:46.The chance for a -- transfer window is in full swing and roads is the

:05:46. > :05:52.hottest property. Premier League clubs are circling and surely every

:05:52. > :05:55.player has his price? Jordan Rhodes has been linked with every club

:05:55. > :06:00.outside Manchester and his boss believes the speculation is helping

:06:00. > :06:05.his game. As for Jordan Rhodes himself, he claims he is taking no

:06:05. > :06:11.notice of the headlines. What was said a what gets written about me

:06:11. > :06:18.or any of my team-mates, or anyone associated with Huddersfield Town,

:06:18. > :06:24.is for someone else to write about. It is for them to comment on, not

:06:24. > :06:30.me. I am sticking to what I am trying to do and what I love doing.

:06:30. > :06:33.All parties involved in taking care of Jordan Rhodes remain united. The

:06:33. > :06:38.striker says there have been no discussions with the chairman

:06:38. > :06:42.regarding his position. We'll just gearing up towards the same thing.

:06:42. > :06:47.I do not think the manager or the chairman has had conversations with

:06:47. > :06:53.any of the other Huddersfield squad in the changing room, so it is not

:06:53. > :06:58.for me to be different. After five goals the week before, he drew

:06:58. > :07:08.apart -- a surprising blank last Saturday. They found salvation in

:07:08. > :07:11.the form of Irishmen behind me. His goal lifted them up to third. But

:07:11. > :07:18.for the manager, the key question was whether further inquiries about

:07:18. > :07:25.Jordan Rhodes? I have had lots. and the chairmen are continuing to

:07:25. > :07:30.stand firm? Me and the chairman and Jordan. Nothing has changed. He

:07:30. > :07:34.will be here on 1st February. We have had the conversations, we know

:07:34. > :07:40.what is being said and we trust each other. We know what is going

:07:40. > :07:45.on and we have covered everything. Jordan's goals could well prove the

:07:45. > :07:55.difference between promotion and another near Ness. His chairman

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:07:56. > :08:01.says his value is out on the pitch. Promotion is important to us. He is

:08:01. > :08:06.an important cog. Promotion is the most important thing for us. We

:08:06. > :08:12.have more of a chance with Jordan playing for us than not. Those

:08:12. > :08:18.interested parties, the majority are Premier League clubs, are they?

:08:18. > :08:21.They are. But he cannot be sold, it is just impossible. Huddersfield

:08:21. > :08:29.seem to have the determination that that their most valuable asset is

:08:29. > :08:35.going nowhere in the January sales. That is great ear for the fans. How

:08:35. > :08:41.great is he? Anybody can scold goals and a regular basis but they

:08:41. > :08:44.have a prize asset there. -- score goals. It is fantastic to hear the

:08:45. > :08:49.chairman say he will not go. He will goal eventually but their

:08:49. > :08:54.ambition is to get out of this division and he is vital to that

:08:54. > :08:59.cause. We have seen him a few times this season and he is a natural

:08:59. > :09:06.goalscorer. A very level-headed lad - unlike his father! He is like his

:09:06. > :09:11.mother. Certainly, Huddersfield and in a great position. It can hold

:09:11. > :09:18.onto them, get promotion and talk about it later. That must be great

:09:18. > :09:24.to hear the chairman like that. absolutely. He has good people

:09:24. > :09:30.around them. He has good back rooms staff advising him. As Brian says,

:09:30. > :09:36.the advice coming to Jordan from his father Andy must be keen. His

:09:36. > :09:42.career has just taken off. Which you want to move now? Or progress

:09:42. > :09:47.with your own club, get promotion and get that with your CV and try

:09:47. > :09:53.your luck in the championship. You never know. He might just settle

:09:53. > :09:58.into Huddersfield for the championship. They are all kinds of

:09:58. > :10:06.goals in there and team play as well. His touch is first class. His

:10:06. > :10:11.awareness is then a kid. He is not just a goalscorer. We talk about

:10:11. > :10:18.touch and the fact he is a level- headed lad, but his finishing is

:10:18. > :10:24.from all angles. He can use both feet. He doesn't just blasts them

:10:24. > :10:29.in. He is a natural goalscorer and has a great future. He was let goal

:10:29. > :10:34.from its which quite quickly, anyone's you let him get away too

:10:34. > :10:42.easily? Probably Bobby's a morale. I might still be manager and we

:10:42. > :10:51.might still be in their Premier League. We talked about Jordan's

:10:51. > :10:54.dads and that leads us on nicely to her next article. -- our next

:10:54. > :10:57.article. It's just over a year since Milan Mandaric took over at

:10:57. > :11:00.Sheffield Wednesday. Last season was a struggle at Hillsborough,

:11:00. > :11:02.first under Alan Irvine and then as his replacement Gary Megson got

:11:02. > :11:05.himself re-acquainted with the place. This year the Owls are in

:11:05. > :11:07.the thick of the promotion battle, alongside Huddersfield and

:11:07. > :11:11.Sheffield United, and the visitors on Saturday were league leaders

:11:11. > :11:17.Charlton Athletic. Paul Burland went to watch it for us. The 21st

:11:17. > :11:22.century has not been kind to Sheffield Wednesday, relegated from

:11:22. > :11:26.the Premier League in 2000. There is genuine hope that under Milan

:11:26. > :11:33.Mandaric and Megson, they have the right team to get them back to

:11:33. > :11:40.where they feel they belong. I am very happy to be here. I have

:11:40. > :11:44.a lot of good people on the field and good management of the field. I

:11:44. > :11:52.have said over and over, tremendous support from the supporters who

:11:52. > :11:55.really appreciate and you do not full these people. They know who's

:11:55. > :12:05.who and they trust you and get behind you. They have a reason to

:12:05. > :12:07.

:12:07. > :12:10.trust us. We were nowhere and now Milan

:12:10. > :12:15.Mandaric is comment and it is brilliant. The ground is full every

:12:15. > :12:22.week. It is one of the best relationships we have had a while.

:12:22. > :12:29.The fans talk to them. A what would you say to the chairman? Well done.

:12:29. > :12:34.Keep going. I am is desperate as every when you say today, as this

:12:34. > :12:42.community to get this first step back to the championship. Everyone

:12:42. > :12:49.you see today. Then we can go from there. This belongs -- his club

:12:49. > :12:54.deserves to be one of the top teams in England. You cannot be happy

:12:54. > :13:00.until you get there. Milan Mandaric has a reputation as a difficult man

:13:00. > :13:08.to please. He replaced Alan Irvine with deep next in. Milan Mandaric

:13:08. > :13:14.offered him the job at Portsmouth as well, which Megson turned down.

:13:14. > :13:19.He is a great man as a human being. Things did not work Kennet but he's

:13:19. > :13:25.one of the nicest football people I met as a person. I just wanted him

:13:25. > :13:30.to be successful. As much as the media accuse me sometimes that I

:13:30. > :13:35.fire managers but it is not my pleasure to do that. I do not like

:13:35. > :13:41.to fire people. I like to have good people. It takes some work. You

:13:41. > :13:51.have to make changes. I have hired Gary for the third time so we will

:13:51. > :14:22.

:14:22. > :14:27.You always take over a club that plays in blue. Yes, that is

:14:27. > :14:36.interesting. My grant it daughter said that. She said will you take

:14:36. > :14:46.over a club that has the red colour? As long as I am here,

:14:46. > :14:49.

:14:49. > :14:52.things will be OK. We will work hard together. Marvellous. We will

:14:52. > :14:55.talk Wednesday in a moment and Milan may not want to talk about

:14:55. > :15:05.United, but we do, as BBC Radio Sheffield's Paul Walker starts his

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:15:09. > :15:16.League One round-up with an catastrophe for Sheffield United.

:15:16. > :15:21.Richard Creswell put them ahead in the 55th minute. Evans got his the

:15:21. > :15:31.18th to make it too and it was wrapped up by Lee Williamson with

:15:31. > :15:36.

:15:36. > :15:40.10 minutes to go. United now three places ahead of Huddersfield.

:15:40. > :15:48.Scunthorpe United got themselves ahead at Colchester, but were

:15:48. > :15:53.pegged back with his penalty equaliser. It has been a tough time

:15:53. > :15:57.in the division for Chesterfield. They fell behind before the break,

:15:57. > :16:03.but after the break, they got an equaliser against Orient, which

:16:03. > :16:07.leaves them are seven points from leaves them are seven points from

:16:08. > :16:11.safety. Here is how it looks in League One,

:16:11. > :16:14.with the two Sheffield clubs and Huddersfield set to battle it out

:16:14. > :16:17.through to the end. Could they all go up? Charlton are surely the flaw

:16:17. > :16:20.in that idea. At the other end, Scunthorpe are three unbeaten now

:16:20. > :16:28.and just above the bottom four on goal difference. Chesterfield are

:16:28. > :16:33.seven points from safety. A big blow for Sheffield Wednesday at the

:16:33. > :16:43.weekend. They had been going along ever so nicely and then we turned

:16:43. > :16:47.up with or cameras! Yes, they're talking about it stability, as you

:16:47. > :16:53.heard there, which was not the case when I was at the club. Their home

:16:53. > :16:58.form has been fantastic. When you get the likes of 30,000 supporters

:16:58. > :17:02.there, they will come through you thick and thin. They have got the

:17:02. > :17:09.right man in charge and there is a real buzz about their place. I am

:17:09. > :17:13.really delighted for Sheffield Wednesday. You mentioned the

:17:13. > :17:21.stability. How to do you feel when you see the current chairman

:17:21. > :17:29.talking like that? Times have changed. You talk about a

:17:29. > :17:33.rudderless ship. It was like you been on a management course, where

:17:33. > :17:38.you are involved in not just the football side, but all the other

:17:38. > :17:44.aspects of the business. In was very tough but enjoyable. But now

:17:44. > :17:52.you have someone who is in it. It is the stable club and they have

:17:52. > :17:57.money. It is a club which is going and only one direction. Danny

:17:57. > :18:07.Wilson doing very well at Sheffield United as well, Phil? And the goals

:18:07. > :18:07.

:18:07. > :18:12.are beginning to fly in yes, just talking about stability. We were

:18:12. > :18:18.talking their about Jordan at Huddersfield. But Evans is now

:18:18. > :18:23.doing that at Sheffield United. Maybe Jordan roads should stay at

:18:23. > :18:28.Huddersfield. Three-goal up and maybe two will go up automatically

:18:28. > :18:32.and the other in the play-offs. But maybe of Jordan stays are

:18:32. > :18:40.Huddersfield, he could maybe take the club into the Premier League.

:18:40. > :18:49.All of these clubs are big enough to be there. Now look at

:18:49. > :18:53.Chesterfield. They are really struggling the division up. I do

:18:53. > :18:56.not think anyone would have contemplated that at the start of

:18:56. > :19:01.the season. Chesterfield were runaway winners last season and

:19:01. > :19:09.that so many goals and them and I thought there was no way they would

:19:09. > :19:17.struggle in League One. In the new stadium, as well. We are all

:19:17. > :19:21.surprised by how they're doing. Coming up, Barnsley young and old

:19:21. > :19:27.go head to head. And we've got the rest of the goals involving all our

:19:27. > :19:30.Football League clubs. Time for a look at the Championship

:19:30. > :19:33.action. Neil Morrow talks us through it, starting with Phil's

:19:33. > :19:43.old club Hull City, where an old boy was officially taking over as

:19:43. > :19:47.

:19:47. > :19:54.the first time as a full-time manager of his hometown team. It

:19:54. > :20:00.was at a winning start for him. Leeds fell behind early against

:20:00. > :20:06.Crystal Palace. United were handed a lifeline just before the break

:20:06. > :20:11.after falling behind, when Palace were reduced to 10 men. Roberts not

:20:11. > :20:17.asking on as the second half substitute and clinched a point for

:20:17. > :20:24.the Elland Road team. Doncaster manager Dean Saunders got the best

:20:24. > :20:29.news he could with the news that Billy Sharp was staying. It was a

:20:29. > :20:39.scoreless draw, but that was a good result against high-flying Cardiff

:20:39. > :20:45.

:20:45. > :20:49.city. Barnsley it got an impressive 2-1 victory over Leicester.

:20:49. > :20:51.The table... Hull sixth and Leeds down three

:20:51. > :20:54.places to 11th after this weekend's results. We are talking play-offs

:20:54. > :20:57.and the fight to be in them again this year.

:20:57. > :20:59.Barnsley in the bottom half, but closer to the play-offs than

:20:59. > :21:02.relegation, points-wise. Doncaster staying positive and so they should,

:21:02. > :21:12.after a great display against Cardiff that should have got them

:21:12. > :21:15.

:21:15. > :21:23.So, Nicky Barmby it has made the step up to be a manager. He did

:21:23. > :21:28.well as the caretaker manager. How well will he do? He was always one

:21:28. > :21:33.that I would talk to it in the dressing room. He had a great

:21:33. > :21:37.career with the likes of Everton, Tottenham and England. That stays

:21:38. > :21:42.with you as a player. As a manager, you would be foolish not to tap

:21:42. > :21:48.into that experience he had as a player when you are a manager. He

:21:49. > :21:57.was coming up with suggestions Here, There and everywhere. We had a good

:21:57. > :22:01.changing room when he was in it. We are talking about Dean Windass and

:22:02. > :22:09.Nick Barmby as the took long gone talents and look at the contrast

:22:09. > :22:14.between them. You will, as buying has been wishing Sheffield

:22:14. > :22:23.Wednesday, his old club, the best, I am doing the same thing when it

:22:23. > :22:33.comes to halt city. He has got some quality in this dressing room. At

:22:33. > :22:34.

:22:34. > :22:38.this level, it is very good Foreign midfielder. Yes, a few of their

:22:38. > :22:44.victories have been just by the single goal, but they have been

:22:44. > :22:53.very precise in their finishing. When you are winning, even by a

:22:53. > :23:00.narrow scoreline, it becomes the nice habit. Peterborough hah the

:23:00. > :23:05.higher scoring team in the championship. A Leeds united would

:23:05. > :23:12.take the victory from anywhere at the moment, only one victory in the

:23:12. > :23:18.past six games. Yes, but Crystal Palace are in such good form

:23:18. > :23:26.themselves. They are no young team who everyone thought would be one

:23:26. > :23:30.of the contenders to struggle. But they have let their round. They

:23:30. > :23:36.have done ever so well in the cup competitions. So Leeds were going

:23:37. > :23:40.to play a team who were brimming with confidence. The pressures of

:23:40. > :23:50.last year are now beginning to mount on top of them. There was

:23:50. > :23:52.

:23:52. > :23:55.huge expectations last year. I think that most people would have

:23:55. > :24:00.settled for consolidation in the championship last season, but they

:24:00. > :24:04.did so well that the pressure has been on them since they won this

:24:04. > :24:08.season. It is a huge club. Great result for Barnsley on

:24:08. > :24:12.Saturday, thanks to two Andy Gray goals. Time now to put two of their

:24:12. > :24:14.other players to the test. Who knows more - a good young one or an

:24:14. > :24:24.old good one? Only one way to find out....

:24:24. > :24:30.

:24:30. > :24:40.Head to Head. I am David and I am a goalkeeper. I am a striker. Start

:24:40. > :24:42.

:24:42. > :24:52.the clock. Who is the smallest player in the squad. David Perkins.

:24:52. > :24:53.

:24:53. > :25:03.How far is it to get to Elland Road? 17 miles. We Super League

:25:03. > :25:11.

:25:11. > :25:21.club played some home games at Oakwell? Widnes. What is the

:25:21. > :25:27.

:25:27. > :25:37.capacity of the ground? 21,000. What is Dickie Bird was famous for?

:25:37. > :25:40.Reuben has a social life, Preecey - get out more. You were far too

:25:40. > :25:43.proud about winning that! Right, onto League Two, which sees

:25:43. > :25:53.us down to just two teams this season. We have got Rotherham and

:25:53. > :26:01.

:26:01. > :26:06.of form of late and twice the lead on Saturday. With only minutes to

:26:06. > :26:12.go, it was one-one and Bradford seemed to have stolen the points

:26:12. > :26:22.with the late goal two minutes from time, but a late equaliser deep

:26:22. > :26:25.

:26:25. > :26:33.into injury time made it 2-2. Swindon Town got two first-half

:26:33. > :26:37.goals, and the second half when did not do enough for them to get any

:26:37. > :26:40.points out their game. The Millers are clinging on to a

:26:40. > :26:43.top half place. Four points off the play-offs though, that is all.

:26:43. > :26:46.Bradford now five points away from peril, thanks to only losing one of

:26:46. > :26:56.their last seven league games. The Bantams, maybe not flying yet, but

:26:56. > :26:59.

:26:59. > :27:04.How often does this happen. He had been taking absolute belters as the

:27:04. > :27:14.next player from the fans before the game. But you just know he is

:27:14. > :27:16.

:27:16. > :27:26.going to come back and haunt you. Yes, it happens all the time. He

:27:26. > :27:31.

:27:31. > :27:37.did a muscle good and then he goes and scores. My albeit park in his

:27:37. > :27:43.they have. I worked under him. Bradford are pulling away nicely

:27:43. > :27:51.and are getting to the middle of the table. You just have to keep

:27:51. > :27:55.the expectation of the fans down a bit. It is nice to be talking any

:27:55. > :27:58.positive light about Bradford city. There is a big game tomorrow night

:27:58. > :28:01.for Chesterfield - Oldham Athletic at the B2Net in the first leg of

:28:01. > :28:04.the Johnstone's Paints Trophy Northern Final. Two games away from

:28:04. > :28:06.Wembley. And do not forget, you will get the

:28:07. > :28:10.best commentary and reports from the games involving our teams by

:28:10. > :28:13.tuning into your local BBC radio station.

:28:13. > :28:20.That is us about done for the first programme, but before we go,