Episode 9

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:00:12. > :00:22.Mixing sports is like mixing drinks. Maybe you should not do it. But we

:00:22. > :00:29.

:00:29. > :00:38.Mind as a pint. But not if you can see the pitch. And we meet Ian

:00:38. > :00:48.Botham. Apparently he also played cricket. And all the weekend's

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:00:49. > :00:53.goals. With me tonight Arc two men who really the worse for wear and

:00:53. > :00:59.always get the rounds in. John Hendrie and Brian Deane. A high and

:00:59. > :01:03.a pint is pretty much standard for many of us before the game. But

:01:03. > :01:08.supporters cannot drink in their seats whilst watching the game, on

:01:08. > :01:15.like in rugby or cricket. Now there is a law which might change that.

:01:15. > :01:19.But could it encourage trouble in the stands? For many supporters are

:01:19. > :01:24.having a few drinks before the game is as much a part of the match the

:01:24. > :01:27.experience as berating the referee. But since the Taylor Report

:01:27. > :01:32.supporters are restricted as to where and when they can enjoy their

:01:32. > :01:37.drinks on a Saturday afternoon. This is the editor of a football

:01:37. > :01:45.magazine, F C business. He is launching a campaign to change the

:01:45. > :01:49.legislation so that stadiums become more fan friendly. We have seen an

:01:49. > :01:54.inability to sell alcohol in a specific way in regards to fans

:01:54. > :02:02.actually been able to take it into the viewing area. That is a massive

:02:02. > :02:09.pro capita to football club's revenue. -- a massive obstacle. It

:02:09. > :02:16.is our cake and preventing the business from moving forward. --

:02:16. > :02:20.archaic. As things stand to go have a drink in the concourse but you

:02:21. > :02:26.are not allowed to take it into the stand. Many supporters think it is

:02:26. > :02:32.about time to change these laws. would like to see the law removed

:02:33. > :02:37.and then left to clubs to work out the best arrangement individually.

:02:37. > :02:44.Do you sell argol? Do you do it in all the stands? If not do you allow

:02:45. > :02:47.people on to the seats? -- do you sell alcohol? For one of the top

:02:48. > :02:55.all these men in the region a relaxation of the law would be a

:02:55. > :02:58.step too far. -- one of the top policemen in Yorkshire. On balance,

:02:58. > :03:02.having the gap where people cannot drink whilst attending a football

:03:02. > :03:08.match, on balance, is better than allowing them to drink during the

:03:08. > :03:11.whole event. Rugby and cricket spectators are not stopped by the

:03:11. > :03:18.laws, so is it not time to give football supporters are more

:03:18. > :03:22.freedom? The comparison is not valid. Rugby and cricket do not and

:03:22. > :03:29.have not had the same sort of problems that have blighted

:03:29. > :03:33.football. That is the reason why the comparison is not valid. I find

:03:33. > :03:36.it personally offensive that legislation basic we suggest that

:03:36. > :03:43.because I am a football supporter I am likely to behave in a less

:03:43. > :03:47.admirable way to my counterparts who support rugby or cricket clubs.

:03:47. > :03:55.Nine of the football club's an hour area declined to comment on camera.

:03:55. > :03:58.Those we did speak to were not keen on a change of the laws. The game

:03:58. > :04:04.has made great strides since the crowd trouble and crowd behaviour

:04:04. > :04:11.of the 1980s. Bringing alcohol back into seated serious is not a step

:04:11. > :04:15.forward by believe the game should be taking. Football is not ready

:04:15. > :04:19.for this legislation. We have a different culture to cricket and

:04:19. > :04:23.rugby. It would be counter- productive to my second point,

:04:23. > :04:32.which is that we are looking to have a family club and I do not

:04:32. > :04:36.drink alcohol mixes with fat. found a mixed response at Bradford.

:04:36. > :04:40.I have been a supporter for a long time and see no trouble on grounds

:04:40. > :04:48.for 15 years. So I cannot see what having a nice quiet drink with

:04:48. > :04:54.family and friends would do it -- how it would do any harm. I do not

:04:54. > :05:00.see any problems with having a drink outside, but I do think it is

:05:00. > :05:04.troublesome to have a drink or allow drink with in the ground.

:05:04. > :05:08.should be allowed a pint whilst enjoying our football team. You see

:05:08. > :05:13.it at Europe or any other venue for sporting events. We will do it at

:05:13. > :05:19.the Olympics. We're just not allowed to do it at football.

:05:19. > :05:24.Ridiculous in the 21st century. years after the publication of the

:05:24. > :05:31.Taylor Report opinion remained divided. Will the days of a turn

:05:31. > :05:35.supporters can enjoy a pint on the terraces? This legislation is a

:05:35. > :05:40.restraint of trade that can no longer be justified. I am not

:05:40. > :05:43.saying we should never moved on from the Taylor Report. Things do

:05:43. > :05:50.change but many of the principles that were laid out in the report

:05:50. > :05:58.have stood the test of time and are still relevant today. Food for

:05:58. > :06:02.thought. Drinks for thought. What do you stand and this? I have

:06:02. > :06:07.reservations to be honest. I played in the bad old days when

:06:07. > :06:13.hooliganism was everywhere. You would have coins thrown at you.

:06:13. > :06:17.What of the time that was family related. -- alcohol related. It is

:06:17. > :06:23.now more of a family game and if you add alcohol I think it can

:06:23. > :06:29.cause havoc. People have had a drink before the game, why can they

:06:29. > :06:34.not sit and have won whilst enjoying it? Because it is a

:06:34. > :06:39.passionate game. After a decision goes against you whilst you have a

:06:39. > :06:47.pint in your hands, that could go anywhere. The game has came to

:06:47. > :06:55.pharmacy family spectacle. cricket and rugby you can, why is

:06:55. > :07:02.that all different? The passionate aspect of football is not a good

:07:02. > :07:06.mix with alcohol, especially on the terraces. You have families,

:07:06. > :07:14.husbands, wives, young kids. You are talking about somebody sitting

:07:14. > :07:20.with a pint right next to them. I do not think it has a place. Is it

:07:20. > :07:26.a good sign for football that we can have the debate? Of course. It

:07:26. > :07:32.shows you how far clubs have brought things forward. CCTV and

:07:32. > :07:37.everything else. For example, Bolton on Saturday. We saw that bad

:07:37. > :07:44.decision there. If somebody has a pint in their hands, I think it

:07:44. > :07:49.would more -- cause more trouble than help. We shall see, but I do

:07:49. > :07:54.not think it will come any time soon. Action now, and as Hull

:07:54. > :07:58.City's promotion push stuttering? If they fail to make the play-offs

:07:58. > :08:03.the main reason will be that they have drawn too many games they

:08:03. > :08:10.should have won. This draw with Ipswich was particularly painful.

:08:10. > :08:19.They were two - 0 ahead. But then a 67th minute penalty handed the

:08:19. > :08:24.visitors a lifeline. Three minutes later this unstoppable shot gave

:08:24. > :08:30.them an equaliser. One-fifth draw on the bounce for Hull City.

:08:30. > :08:36.Doncaster Rovers nearly pulled off the shock of the afternoon at high

:08:36. > :08:40.flying west Ham United. West Ham where one - 0 ahead at half-time

:08:40. > :08:45.but a much improved performance soared on cast have equalised. They

:08:45. > :08:51.very nearly claimed all three points but Robert Green pushed this

:08:51. > :08:55.effort just past the post. On the south coast, Southampton extended

:08:55. > :09:02.their lead at the top of the championship with this victory over

:09:02. > :09:09.Barnsley. The struggle has never looked capable of clawing back

:09:09. > :09:14.saints's advantage. They struck the woodwork but in truth were second

:09:14. > :09:24.best on the day. As well be generated at Middlesbrough on

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:09:31. > :09:41.Sunday. -- eyes where Leeds United. He had to drive through, a great

:09:41. > :09:44.

:09:44. > :09:47.chance, 2 - 0! These commentators get far too over-excited! That puts

:09:47. > :09:53.Leeds United right-back and promotion contention if they can

:09:53. > :10:03.put a run together. Barnsley are in freefall but I'm sure they will be

:10:03. > :10:05.

:10:05. > :10:10.OK. Doncaster or may be OK, the Great Escape perhaps? Hull City

:10:10. > :10:18.through their game away, let's start with Doncaster. One of the

:10:18. > :10:24.results of the week. I would agree with you. They played very good

:10:24. > :10:33.football under Sean O'Driscoll and they have brought in good players.

:10:33. > :10:36.By all accounts they should have won this game. John, a few weeks

:10:36. > :10:44.ago you confidently predicted they would stay up. That is looking a

:10:44. > :10:48.good shout. You were laughing at me! Indeed they should have got

:10:49. > :10:54.something at Elland Road. They have an important week coming up, three

:10:54. > :11:01.home games. That will be the telling factor. They're doing well

:11:01. > :11:06.on their travels but must on the home form in two victories. Both

:11:06. > :11:15.have you had played for both teams at the back came yesterday, Leeds

:11:15. > :11:20.United and Middlesbrough. I was one of those who said that Neil Warnock

:11:20. > :11:25.is the right man for the job. But he has lots of respect and is just

:11:25. > :11:31.what Leeds United need. Somebody unafraid to bring in the kind of

:11:31. > :11:37.players he believes will get the club promoted. The first thing he

:11:37. > :11:47.has done is shut the back door. Three clean sheets. And Paul

:11:47. > :11:50.

:11:50. > :11:56.Robinson was fantastic yesterday. Yes, a bit of steel in there. They

:11:56. > :12:03.are a threat. Would you say that the slightest thought of the play-

:12:03. > :12:12.offs has entered their heads? Warnock was playing it down a few

:12:12. > :12:21.gigs ago but he is canny. Coming up, we go to Headingley, where this man

:12:21. > :12:26.became the nation's sporting hero. Some say that it is the 2020

:12:26. > :12:36.version of Mastermind. This week, Yorkshire cricket take on some of

:12:36. > :12:41.

:12:41. > :12:48.Andrew Gale, of Yorkshire County Cricket Club. Captain and batsman.

:12:48. > :12:57.Richard Tyler, Yorkshire Cricket Club, all rounder. Who does Michael

:12:58. > :13:07.von support? Sheffield Wednesday. How long was Brian Clough in charge

:13:08. > :13:18.

:13:18. > :13:28.of Leeds United. Seven? 44. What do you put in a toaster? Brett!

:13:28. > :13:29.

:13:29. > :13:39.are the current 2020 World Cup holders. I don't know. England. Who

:13:39. > :13:48.

:13:48. > :13:58.is the most famous fan of Barnsley? Decade barked. -- Dickie Bird. I

:13:58. > :13:58.

:13:58. > :14:02.think that means you have just Their skipper will be able to toast

:14:02. > :14:03.that win in Barbados. And we'll be hearing from a real

:14:03. > :14:06.cricket legend later in the programme.

:14:06. > :14:10.Time for some League One now and we start with Sheffield United, who

:14:10. > :14:18.won at the only ground in the country that has a pub at every

:14:18. > :14:22.corner. There's a nugget for you. Here's another - Neil Morrow.

:14:22. > :14:26.84-1 win over Bury and a three to nothing when over Bournemouth has

:14:26. > :14:36.given up Wednesday's new boss a dream start. The game was over

:14:36. > :14:37.

:14:37. > :14:42.after the first 10 minutes. Then an own goal. Finally, this effort

:14:42. > :14:48.insureds fans could rest easy for the afternoon.

:14:48. > :14:53.I thought it was going to be a disaster. Because it has been easy

:14:53. > :14:59.for 20 minutes, it took their foot off the gas. You can't fault them

:14:59. > :15:02.for that. That is something that we will learn as we go on.

:15:02. > :15:10.Sheffield United have lost three of their previous four, but they got

:15:11. > :15:13.back to it. Ched Evans got this great first-half strike. Somehow,

:15:13. > :15:19.great first-half strike. Somehow, with the goalkeeper stranded, he

:15:19. > :15:23.missed this opportunity. But he completed his is brace in the

:15:23. > :15:27.second half when he latched onto a poor kick to ensure that Lyns

:15:27. > :15:31.remain in the automatic promotion spot still with a game in hand.

:15:31. > :15:41.Huddersfield drops to potentially vital points in their quest to go

:15:41. > :15:42.

:15:42. > :15:45.up automatically. The terriers were ahead inside injury-time, although

:15:45. > :15:50.they screamer equalised. Huddersfield went in front when

:15:50. > :15:55.Jordan roads made an excellent run. That is his 33rd goal of an

:15:55. > :15:59.astonishing season. It was heartbreak when that the points

:15:59. > :16:02.were shared. Chesterfield will wonder how they

:16:03. > :16:07.let a victory slip out of their grasp. They dominated the first

:16:07. > :16:17.half and went ahead after 12 minutes. It was soon to do nothing

:16:17. > :16:20.

:16:20. > :16:25.when Jordan Berry scored his second goal of the beak. 2-0. Fans were

:16:25. > :16:28.wondering just what might have been. Scunthorpe went to Preston, hoping

:16:28. > :16:33.their on-loan striker would do the decent thing by scoring against his

:16:33. > :16:40.old side. But in the end, the Irish had to settle for a point as the

:16:40. > :16:47.game ended in a scoreless draw. Our three teams are hot on the trail of

:16:47. > :16:50.Charlton. Could they don't seem to want it. In the bottom half,

:16:50. > :16:59.Scunthorpe are getting further away from danger. Chesterfield are still

:16:59. > :17:04.on the thick of it. They missed a Back on for all three of our sides.

:17:04. > :17:11.If Huddersfield could hold on to a need. Jordan roads named League One

:17:11. > :17:16.player of the Year last night. Those 33 goals, that is phenomenal.

:17:16. > :17:19.I think he deserves it. But wider Football League awards and the

:17:19. > :17:23.second week of March? All I am thinking is Ched Evans is up there

:17:23. > :17:28.in terms of goals and got another two at the big end. Sheffield

:17:28. > :17:31.United might go up because of him. He has a case, doesn't he?

:17:31. > :17:39.Absolutely. In the middle of April would be more realistic. There are

:17:39. > :17:46.still so much more to play for. Ched Evans has got a double here.

:17:46. > :17:50.Those goals could actually take Sheffield United up. Important for

:17:50. > :17:54.your old club to get a win this weekend after a lot of defeats.

:17:55. > :18:01.Absolutely. This burden the campers good, but they have had some poor

:18:01. > :18:09.results and the last few weeks. will let Brown talk about

:18:09. > :18:14.Wednesday! For obvious reasons! Changing manager with hindsight, it

:18:14. > :18:18.is genius. Two wins out of two. Dave Jones did his pedigree at

:18:18. > :18:23.Stockport. He knows what it is all about. I think it was a massive

:18:23. > :18:33.stroke of genius. Co and Bournemouth on Saturday were beaten

:18:33. > :18:35.

:18:35. > :18:38.in 10 minutes. They just bombard them. Dave Jones is very laid back.

:18:38. > :18:44.He is a bit different from Neil Warnock! But he does get the

:18:44. > :18:49.results. They have this guy from Reading for some Michael Antonio.

:18:49. > :18:53.Three goals in two games. A new manager comes in, he just needs to

:18:53. > :18:57.give the play is a spark. When Antonio came in as well, or any new

:18:57. > :19:01.face coming in, it gives the players a lift. So far, so good.

:19:01. > :19:05.And he got his goal at the weekend. But in between the second goal,

:19:05. > :19:10.this is our contribution to goldmine Technologies. This was

:19:10. > :19:17.officially an own goal. Did it going? We might get another look at

:19:17. > :19:21.it. The referee's assistants did not get that. This last happened.

:19:21. > :19:31.For you would never guess he was a player, him! Just the natural

:19:31. > :19:31.

:19:31. > :19:36.instinct! We have to have it, don't we. Absolutely. The FA must make a

:19:36. > :19:40.stand now and start from scratch. There was a comment from them

:19:40. > :19:44.immediately. Maybe soon. Messi's five goals on Wednesday

:19:44. > :19:47.provoked a debate as to who's the best footballer ever. And if you

:19:47. > :19:51.did the same with cricket, many would bring up the name of Sir Ian

:19:51. > :19:54.Botham. But on Late Kick Off we don't care about his amazing Ashes

:19:54. > :20:03.exploits. We do care that he played for Scunthorpe United. Rob Jones

:20:03. > :20:13.went to meet him. It has become one of British

:20:13. > :20:20.

:20:20. > :20:25.In the summer of 1981, Ian Botham almost single-handedly swung a

:20:26. > :20:35.series in England's favour against the Auld enemy, Australia. They

:20:36. > :20:36.

:20:36. > :20:41.became his ashes and they always A great innings by Ian Botham!

:20:41. > :20:44.just across the boundary in Lincolnshire, them and the

:20:44. > :20:50.effective the known as beefy has a far less celebrated the Bokhari a

:20:50. > :20:55.Withe one of our local clubs. friend of mine was playing for

:20:55. > :20:59.Scunthorpe, Steve Earle. I got to know him at through playing local

:20:59. > :21:05.football on a Sunday. He asked me to train. I started doing that. We

:21:05. > :21:12.used to travel through together. After about a week, the manager

:21:12. > :21:17.signed me on. I played for the reserves that week. That is how it

:21:17. > :21:20.all started. I had 10 great years, on and off. I never really had the

:21:20. > :21:24.chance to play that much, but the authorities didn't really

:21:24. > :21:28.appreciate be playing on Boxing Day against Hall and then flying to the

:21:28. > :21:33.West Indies to captain England. Their Renault contracts sent! I

:21:33. > :21:36.don't care at the authorities think anyway. It bores Test Match and the

:21:36. > :21:42.afternoon at the Old Showground carried very different pressures.

:21:42. > :21:46.Did Ian Botham had a preference? enjoy both. If you're that kind of

:21:46. > :21:51.animal, you want to be in hot as part of the kitchen. To mark Billy

:21:51. > :21:56.Whitehurst and then have to play for England was great. He was a

:21:56. > :21:59.veteran of over 100 Test matches and 100 one-day internationals,

:21:59. > :22:05.alongside his spell at iron and a short stint at Yeovil Town just

:22:05. > :22:09.beforehand. Clearly, he was not a man concerned by per night.

:22:09. > :22:14.Sometimes, the transition to training at Scunthorpe did prove

:22:14. > :22:19.heavy-going. I am naturally pretty fit anyway. But the boys used to

:22:19. > :22:22.find it quite amusing when I first turned up, because I would

:22:22. > :22:29.inevitably be run the back of the blistering up within about 15

:22:29. > :22:32.minutes of the first half. It is totally different fitness. The one

:22:32. > :22:37.thing I found between the two was that cricket is a much more

:22:37. > :22:45.flexible sport. Our muscles for much more stretched. The boys could

:22:45. > :22:51.hardly get to the unease. We were much more support. You had to be

:22:52. > :22:56.ready to go at any stage of the six hours. Soccer was only 90 minutes.

:22:56. > :23:02.He may only have made 11 appearances, at but Botham still

:23:02. > :23:05.has a soft spot for the club. He travels the world with England, but

:23:06. > :23:12.skilled -- still keeps a close eye at Scunthorpe. I could tell you

:23:12. > :23:16.every game. I followed everywhere in the world. It is very strange

:23:16. > :23:21.watching football on a print-out! It is a different game them.

:23:21. > :23:29.Everything comes about four minutes later and it is all written down. I

:23:29. > :23:35.always find a way. It is a lot easier now. Everybody stays in

:23:35. > :23:39.touch. I will come down to a couple of games when I get back before the

:23:39. > :23:44.end of the season. They will have a bit of a boys' reunion. His family

:23:44. > :23:49.tree is a rich tapestry of talent. His father was a skilled footballer

:23:49. > :23:53.and cricketer, whilst his son are represented Hampshire as well as

:23:53. > :23:59.both types of rugby, before he was forced into retirement with a neck

:23:59. > :24:05.injury. Now, Ian Botham is keeping a close eye on the next generation.

:24:05. > :24:11.I have two grandson's. My two-year- old has not yet been obsessed for -

:24:12. > :24:15.- says, but the two older boys have a lot of talent. My granddaughter

:24:15. > :24:19.is it a lot of sports lady as well. That is in the genes. When you have

:24:19. > :24:24.another Botham playing in a Scunthorpe United should? Kok when

:24:24. > :24:28.they're in the Premiership. Why not?

:24:28. > :24:32.Scunthorpe United - home of the England international! He was

:24:32. > :24:38.really my child to a hero when I was growing up. John, you will be

:24:38. > :24:44.played against him. Yes. I played for Bradford City against him. What

:24:44. > :24:48.a character. Enthusiastic, wholehearted and massive. How

:24:49. > :24:54.deeply his centre-back and centre- forward. A proper all-rounder!

:24:54. > :24:59.great character and the football pitch! It is such a shame you

:24:59. > :25:02.cannot get people playing two sportster that high-level anymore.

:25:02. > :25:08.Are you professional with anything else? Tiddlywinks. Table tennis. I

:25:08. > :25:12.have played a few sports at school. Not to that level, though. It is a

:25:12. > :25:19.special sportsmen who can do what he did. John, you were very nearly

:25:19. > :25:22.an Olympic athlete. And not shot but! I was a sprinter. I was

:25:22. > :25:27.seventh in the Scottish schools from a year and 100 metres. Not bad

:25:28. > :25:33.for a little guy. Not bad at all! We one of the quickest players in

:25:33. > :25:38.your team? Yes. Every Friday morning and was out doing sprints

:25:38. > :25:44.after training. It was a big part of my game. That is the secret of

:25:44. > :25:50.football. Run past and score a goal. I was going to put the same

:25:50. > :25:53.question to brine. I was quite quick. I know! In your own way!

:25:53. > :26:03.From Beefy to Bantams. Here's Jade Lauriston with the best of the

:26:03. > :26:03.

:26:03. > :26:09.Lauriston with the best of the League Two action. Bradford City

:26:09. > :26:14.desperately needed three points. Things were made easier by this

:26:14. > :26:20.booking. Craig Fagan put him in front after 57 minutes from the

:26:20. > :26:24.penalty spot. They went to do nothing up after Coral read's cross

:26:24. > :26:30.got in. Asa Hall pulled one back in the 72nd minute. But they were able

:26:30. > :26:32.to hold on for a much-needed win. Dyer is probably the best word to

:26:32. > :26:40.describe the game between Rotherham and Plymouth.

:26:40. > :26:43.A penalty was awarded before the only goal of the game was scored.

:26:43. > :26:46.Rotherham's when kicks than just the inside of Oxford United in

:26:46. > :26:56.seventh. In the bottom half, Bradford could move up another

:26:56. > :27:04.place if they win at Wimbledon Congratulations to Rotherham! They

:27:04. > :27:08.were named community club of the Year last night. Not bad. They

:27:08. > :27:16.could win it again next year! They still have a little too much to do

:27:16. > :27:20.to catch up? It is a tall order. They have to keep on going. What

:27:20. > :27:25.about your Bradford boys? That was an important game. It ended a run

:27:25. > :27:29.of home draws this week. They drew five on the bounce. The last time

:27:29. > :27:34.they lost and home was in November against Rotherham. Phil Parkinson,

:27:34. > :27:41.I like that he is doing there. It is good to have James Hanson back

:27:41. > :27:47.there. He has brought a better calibre of player. I get the

:27:47. > :27:51.feeling that next season, there might be a pitch. Yes. The manager

:27:51. > :27:55.will be trying to finish the season strongly you which will give them

:27:55. > :27:58.positive vibes for the next season. But I'm optimistic for next season

:27:58. > :28:01.with him in charge. It will be interesting.

:28:01. > :28:04.A quick look at tomorrow's game. Hull are at Cardiff for a big one

:28:04. > :28:07.at the top end of the Championship, whilst in-form Reading are coming

:28:07. > :28:09.to Doncaster. In League One, Sheffield United are

:28:09. > :28:13.at Colchester, and Scunthorpe are playing a rearranged fixture at

:28:13. > :28:18.Yeovil. Finally in League Two, it's Bradford versus Wimbledon and

:28:18. > :28:21.Rotherham versus the Gulls of Torquay.

:28:21. > :28:25.Your BBC local radio station is the place to tune in for the best

:28:25. > :28:28.commentaries and reports. And to keep in touch and chew the

:28:28. > :28:34.football fat with us directly, we're Twits like everyone else

:28:35. > :28:38.these days. @bbclkoyl, @guymowbray & @deanobri1968. To hear that and

:28:38. > :28:40.watch this programme again, go to the Iplayer. It'll be available for

:28:40. > :28:43.the next week. That's it for us this week, and