The League Cup Final

0:00:47 > 0:00:57This place used to be Liverpool's second home. But it has changed a

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0:00:59 > 0:01:07bit in 16 years. The Reds last tasted Cup success in Wales, in the

0:01:07 > 0:01:17City of... Cardiff. And as for Cardiff. They may be

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0:01:18 > 0:01:22underdogs today, but favourites do fall in this final.

0:01:22 > 0:01:32So who will be flying highest? The blue boards -- the Bluebirds all

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0:01:55 > 0:01:58It has already been a very successful weekend for Wales. A

0:01:59 > 0:02:02victory over England in the Six Nations and a win as well for

0:02:02 > 0:02:08Nathan cleverly, who retained his WBO light-heavyweight title last

0:02:08 > 0:02:11night. Could it be a memorable hat- trick at Wembley this afternoon?

0:02:11 > 0:02:15Liverpool remain firm favourites and will be desperate to get their

0:02:15 > 0:02:19hands on some silverware for the first time in six years. It should

0:02:19 > 0:02:23be an exciting afternoon here at Wembley.

0:02:23 > 0:02:28Here with us are Alan Hansen, Alan Shearer and Chris Coleman. It is

0:02:28 > 0:02:32all set up, one of those giant killers... It David against Goliath.

0:02:32 > 0:02:36This is a special place, it is a special occasion. There are not

0:02:36 > 0:02:40many times since I retired that I wished I was still playing but you

0:02:40 > 0:02:44look at the pitch here and you look at the weather and this is one of

0:02:44 > 0:02:50them. The fans wouldn't agree with that, to be perfectly frank. You're

0:02:50 > 0:02:54in no condition any more! Chris, it is a big day and it signifiers this

0:02:54 > 0:02:59resurgence in Welsh football. We have seen swans take playing so

0:02:59 > 0:03:03well the top flight, Cardiff have been here four times in the last

0:03:03 > 0:03:07years -- Swansea. Yes, Cardiff have been unlucky here and will want to

0:03:07 > 0:03:10change this. There has been a resurgence, as you say. Swansea are

0:03:10 > 0:03:15going well in the Premier League. The Welsh national team have won

0:03:15 > 0:03:20their last four games. The rugby team have done well, the boxing

0:03:20 > 0:03:26last night, so sport generally in Wales is very good. I putted well

0:03:26 > 0:03:29pick up for Cardiff. -- but it will be tough. Yes, if Liverpool get it

0:03:29 > 0:03:35right. But we have seen it in finals before, sometimes the best

0:03:35 > 0:03:41teams don't get it right. Cardiff will meet Liverpool to underperform.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45And they will have to underperform. It has happened before. We have a

0:03:45 > 0:03:51neutral in the house, I presume. How do you see this one? They are

0:03:51 > 0:03:55always great occasions, but it is almost the fans final. We were here

0:03:55 > 0:04:00last year with Arsenal and Birmingham and some of the guys

0:04:00 > 0:04:06thought it was going to be a walkover for Arsenal. The while

0:04:06 > 0:04:08reminding us that she went for Birmingham. I did. But I can't see

0:04:09 > 0:04:13Cardiff doing it today. I'm delighted to see them, Malky Mackay

0:04:13 > 0:04:18has done a wonderful job and when he took over I think they had 10

0:04:18 > 0:04:23full-time professionals, and a few of them were under 17. So he has

0:04:23 > 0:04:28done so well to get them gelling so quickly, and to get here is a great

0:04:28 > 0:04:32success. They only just made it, they are relatively late! This was

0:04:32 > 0:04:37a few moments ago. That might be them saying we are going to do

0:04:37 > 0:04:41everything as normal as possible, they might get to their respective

0:04:41 > 0:04:45grounds week in week out... You say that, but the way they are running

0:04:45 > 0:04:51of the bus suggests otherwise. Adding they have been caught in

0:04:51 > 0:04:57traffic. There is Malcolm McKay. has done a great job. -- Malky

0:04:58 > 0:05:03Mackay. Yes, Dave Jones for him befall them, they did really well,

0:05:03 > 0:05:07got to the play-offs, the FA Cup final. And as Alan said, he got

0:05:07 > 0:05:11there and lost a lot of players and has had to build it from scratch. I

0:05:11 > 0:05:16went there recently and he really has got the place going, he has put

0:05:16 > 0:05:20his own stamp on it. As the Liverpool team, they arrived about

0:05:20 > 0:05:25half-an-hour ago. Kenny Dalglish has seen it all before, but not

0:05:25 > 0:05:31that this particular Wembley. This is their first visit to this new

0:05:31 > 0:05:36Wembley. You can tell. 16 years since Liverpool have been here...

0:05:36 > 0:05:42They went the wrong way. The number of people buying tickets for this

0:05:42 > 0:05:49game, honestly... You go back to the great days and the demand for

0:05:49 > 0:05:57cup final tickets. There is Andy Carroll. He is obviously say you

0:05:57 > 0:06:01have to pick me, because there he is in his kit already! I think from

0:06:01 > 0:06:04Liverpool's point of view, it there is away of doing it the hard way to

0:06:04 > 0:06:08get here, they have done it. They have played every tie away from

0:06:08 > 0:06:13home and played some big teams. And if you look at the first one they

0:06:13 > 0:06:18had, Exeter way, the first scorers were Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll -

0:06:18 > 0:06:22- away. They set out to win this competition. By I think it is a

0:06:22 > 0:06:26reward for the Liverpool supporters. They support the team through thick

0:06:26 > 0:06:31and thin. They haven't been here for 16 years and to get here and

0:06:31 > 0:06:34play in the final, they have had a lot of hard games along the way and

0:06:34 > 0:06:39it has been terrific. You mentioned how hard it has been for Liverpool

0:06:39 > 0:06:49fans to get tickets and the same is true of the Cardiff fans. Let's get

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0:06:52 > 0:06:57Liverpool! I am sorry Liverpool, it is a Welsh win. A big weekend for

0:06:57 > 0:07:02Wales, rugby, boxing and football. Kenny has got them playing well and

0:07:02 > 0:07:09we will win today. If we can keep it to six goals, we will be all

0:07:09 > 0:07:19right. We are going to batter them! The it is definitely our time. We

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0:07:25 > 0:07:31CHEERING. Hopefully, we will win, but as long

0:07:31 > 0:07:37as we don't get hammered. We have the best team, the best walks --

0:07:37 > 0:07:43squad, the best players, a foregone conclusion. My dad was born in 1937

0:07:43 > 0:07:47and he is up there watching as winner. First time at Wembley for a

0:07:47 > 0:07:51long time. We were beaten by Manchester United in 1996, wearing

0:07:51 > 0:07:59those silly suits. I think they have still got them. I was best man

0:07:59 > 0:08:06at a wedding and I text did him saying I had gone to Wembley. --

0:08:06 > 0:08:16text messaged him. If you are put in the FA 10, we will follow you.

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0:08:16 > 0:08:21I think Cardiff are going to win 3- 0. I sent to the text message, he

0:08:21 > 0:08:25didn't reply. I didn't even phone him.

0:08:25 > 0:08:29There's just no need for that. I wonder how the wedding is going!

0:08:29 > 0:08:34Chris, I sensed there is more optimism amongst the Liverpool fans,

0:08:34 > 0:08:38but you might expect that. Yes, as we said looking earlier, looking at

0:08:38 > 0:08:41the Liverpool squad, they have a lot of quality on the bench.

0:08:41 > 0:08:47Cardiff are playing in the Championship, albeit a good

0:08:47 > 0:08:50Championship side. I just heard one of the Liverpool fans saying it is

0:08:50 > 0:08:53a foregone conclusion and in football, the only guarantee is

0:08:53 > 0:08:58there are no guarantees. If Liverpool don't turn up, which I

0:08:58 > 0:09:02don't think they will, Cardiff are a useful team. They have dangerous

0:09:02 > 0:09:06players, a very good manager and they are very much in the us up --

0:09:06 > 0:09:09ascendancy. I don't think Kenny Dalglish will be saying that in the

0:09:09 > 0:09:15dressing room. He will be stressing to them about complacency, because

0:09:15 > 0:09:19that is the way you face defeat, becoming complacent. 16 years they

0:09:19 > 0:09:22have not been here. It has been a while. Let's remind you how

0:09:22 > 0:09:27while. Let's remind you how Liverpool reached today's final.

0:09:27 > 0:09:30They entered the competition at the second-round stage and began with a

0:09:30 > 0:09:35trip to League One Exeter with Andy Carroll amongst the scorers. Two

0:09:35 > 0:09:39successive away victories saw them set up a quarter-final with Chelsea

0:09:39 > 0:09:43at Stamford Bridge. Two goals in five minutes wrapped up the tie to

0:09:43 > 0:09:48take the ball into the semi-final, where they faced Manchester City.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50Steven Gerrard scoring in both legs to help them to an aggregate win.

0:09:50 > 0:09:53to help them to an aggregate win. We can hear from Liverpool

0:09:53 > 0:09:58goalscoring legend, he is with Steve Wilson.

0:09:58 > 0:10:02I am joined by Ian Rush. You played and won here many times for

0:10:02 > 0:10:06Liverpool. It has been a long time since the football club has been

0:10:06 > 0:10:11here at Wembley. It has and I think the way the supporters want to come

0:10:11 > 0:10:14and watch this game says it all. It is their first time that the new

0:10:14 > 0:10:19Wembley and everyone is excited and that they just hope the team

0:10:19 > 0:10:23perform on the day. How do you see it going? They are strong favourite.

0:10:23 > 0:10:28Yes, but you look at the FA Cup final, Liverpool against Wimbledon,

0:10:28 > 0:10:32it is the preparation that it is all about. I think of Cardiff over

0:10:32 > 0:10:36perform and Liverpool underperform, they can win, but I think with

0:10:36 > 0:10:39Kenny Dalglish there, the preparation will be spot on. It is

0:10:39 > 0:10:43the mental preparation, not the physical preparation. Again, you

0:10:43 > 0:10:47walk out on the pitch and the players have to do it. The pitch is

0:10:47 > 0:10:52perfect, but I am expecting a Liverpool win. But the players have

0:10:52 > 0:10:56to do it. Your pedigree in this tournament is beyond question, 49

0:10:57 > 0:11:00goals, no one has ever scored more than that. Do you have a favourite?

0:11:00 > 0:11:08I don't have a favourite. Cup competitions were very special for

0:11:08 > 0:11:14me. By second goal was the League Cup. -- my. I scored my first goal

0:11:14 > 0:11:18at Wembley against Tottenham in the early 1980s when we beat them 3-1.

0:11:18 > 0:11:21But for players today, it is the Carling Cup now and that is what it

0:11:21 > 0:11:25is all about and the players have to produce. Hopefully they do from

0:11:25 > 0:11:30a Liverpool point of view. Thank you for your time of.

0:11:30 > 0:11:34One of the great goalscorers. There is the art of Liverpool Football

0:11:34 > 0:11:42Club John Henry, hoping that he will collect his first trophy --

0:11:42 > 0:11:46the owner. He also owns the best and red socks. -- Boston Red Sox.

0:11:46 > 0:11:49As the Cardiff, they made a stuttering start to their Carling

0:11:49 > 0:11:53stuttering start to their Carling Cup campaign. They required extra

0:11:53 > 0:11:56time to progress through the first three rounds. The game against

0:11:56 > 0:12:02Leicester went to penalties with Captain Paul Quinn scoring the

0:12:02 > 0:12:06winner. Joe Mason's left-foot curler saw off early in round four

0:12:06 > 0:12:11to set up a tie with Blackburn. The semi-final saw both Crystal Palace

0:12:11 > 0:12:15and Cardiff win their respective home tie is 1-0, with Cardiff

0:12:15 > 0:12:16making it through to Wembley with a on penalties. Tom Heaton of the

0:12:16 > 0:12:20on penalties. Tom Heaton of the hero.

0:12:20 > 0:12:25Allen, Cardiff had sought to scramble through, one or two

0:12:25 > 0:12:29penalty shoot-outs -- sort of. Absolutely. They have any played

0:12:29 > 0:12:34one Premier League team, which was Blackburn and when you compare that

0:12:34 > 0:12:37to Liverpool's runner, it has been slightly easier, if you like. But

0:12:37 > 0:12:41again, they thoroughly deserve to be here and they are one of the

0:12:41 > 0:12:45teams in the Championship that like to play the right way, they like to

0:12:45 > 0:12:49get the ball than on the ground, play their football. They have some

0:12:49 > 0:12:53good passers. And they have Kenny Miller, who we all they will score

0:12:53 > 0:12:58goals if he is given the chances. Plain that the new Wembley is

0:12:58 > 0:13:02nothing new for Cardiff, it is their 4th visit in five seasons --

0:13:02 > 0:13:12playing at. We have sent double Olympic swimming a medallist and

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0:13:19 > 0:13:27Bluebirds fan David Davies to This is an wasn't supposed to be

0:13:27 > 0:13:31like this. Dave Jones departed in the summer. We were preparing for a

0:13:31 > 0:13:36season of rebuilding. There was a danger that it was going to be

0:13:36 > 0:13:46after The Lord Mayor show. Then we got a Scottish manager who started

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0:13:58 > 0:14:02pulling rabbits out of that. -- a Malky Mackay was a pretty popular

0:14:02 > 0:14:07choice when he was appointed. A young manager with a decent track

0:14:07 > 0:14:12record. From Glasgow as well, which these days is a prerequisite. And

0:14:12 > 0:14:22for good measure, he has navigated another passage to Wembley Way.

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0:14:31 > 0:14:35Keep going, keep it going. That is What was the most fundamental thing

0:14:36 > 0:14:39you had to change when you came here? Just the fact that the boys

0:14:39 > 0:14:43were open to change, open to doing different things other than being

0:14:43 > 0:14:47on the football pitch. There is obviously a time for coaching but

0:14:47 > 0:14:51at the same time you have to make sure that there are various other

0:14:51 > 0:14:54things that can help them, in terms of being a top-level athletes,

0:14:54 > 0:14:59things that you take from different sport and that is something we are

0:14:59 > 0:15:04trying to do. The fans will identify with the great work ethic

0:15:04 > 0:15:09of the team, they are all in it together. Do you feel that is an

0:15:09 > 0:15:13important thing? Very important. It is one of the mainstays of our

0:15:13 > 0:15:18Group, in terms of how tight we are as a group, everybody pulling at

0:15:18 > 0:15:22the same direction. We have staff and players respecting each other.

0:15:22 > 0:15:26That is what we need, no egos and everyone to buy into this, the

0:15:26 > 0:15:34staff and players, and you will have a better chance of going

0:15:34 > 0:15:40forward together. But team have gelled really well.

0:15:40 > 0:15:44Were you expecting that? -- the team. Probably not as quickly. It

0:15:44 > 0:15:48takes time to get to know how each other up play. That comes with time

0:15:48 > 0:15:51and playing games. I think the Cup has helped in terms of the extra

0:15:51 > 0:15:56games for players to get to know each other, that there are no

0:15:56 > 0:16:01cliques, they are pulling in one direction. It helps with good

0:16:01 > 0:16:05results on the pitch as well. modern-day footballer has a few

0:16:05 > 0:16:08more strings to his bow then you might imagine. Never mind playing

0:16:09 > 0:16:18golf or snooker after training. Nowadays, they work with the mind

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0:16:34 > 0:16:40How do you find yoga? Probably a lot harder than I thought it was

0:16:40 > 0:16:44going to be. It is good, though. Definitely feeling the benefits of

0:16:44 > 0:16:49doing it. I used to have quite a few problems with my hamstrings and

0:16:49 > 0:16:54things like that and it seems to be helping bat. It did help she just

0:16:54 > 0:17:00by 5%, it is worth it -- helping the that combat and if it helps you

0:17:00 > 0:17:04buy 5%, it is worth it. The fans are seeing a hard-working team,

0:17:04 > 0:17:09disciplined, and they appreciate that. Are you finding that?

0:17:09 > 0:17:13definitely. And the personnel, they have brought on a few young lads,

0:17:13 > 0:17:19that that have high work ethic, and that is why they are still up there

0:17:19 > 0:17:25Should the ball ever leave the circle?

0:17:25 > 0:17:30You forget you are in a South Wales sometimes and not in Glasgow?

0:17:30 > 0:17:40have got to get a wee bit of Glaswegian going. But it has been

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0:17:46 > 0:17:51good. I thought we were a Scotland The Cup final of 2008, the team was

0:17:52 > 0:17:56led by Stephen McPhail. Since then, he has battled with serious illness.

0:17:56 > 0:18:00For him, being involved with the squad and another trip to Wembley

0:18:01 > 0:18:06is a real psychological boost. Personally, I love every minute of

0:18:06 > 0:18:09football. My health hasn't been great the last couple of years, a

0:18:09 > 0:18:13problem we are trying to get to the bottom of. It has been a long road

0:18:13 > 0:18:16and we are still trying to get there, but I have been to the US to

0:18:16 > 0:18:20see a specialist and hopefully we will have some sort of treatment

0:18:20 > 0:18:29that might slow down and give me a chance to play a bit longer.

0:18:29 > 0:18:34heard you got advice from a special superstar? I got lucky enough to

0:18:34 > 0:18:39speak to Venus Williams. There are only as two athletes in the world

0:18:39 > 0:18:43with this syndrome. It was good to bounce things off, as care how she

0:18:43 > 0:18:49was feeling, and the things that got she got a good reaction from --

0:18:49 > 0:18:55ask her. And a few weeks of treatment that she is getting,

0:18:55 > 0:18:58hopefully it will commit them. I have just been in your office and

0:18:58 > 0:19:02could see in some books from successful American sports coaches.

0:19:02 > 0:19:08-- have seen. They are guide you can learn a lot from. You're

0:19:09 > 0:19:16talking about elite performers, you see how they train, how they apply

0:19:16 > 0:19:21themselves. Incredible work to get to Olympic standards. We try and

0:19:21 > 0:19:25make the training ground and the work place like that every day.

0:19:25 > 0:19:30is fair to say you're not going to Wembley for a day out, you're going

0:19:30 > 0:19:33to give it a good go? Absolutely. We go into every game to be

0:19:33 > 0:19:38competitive. We are massive underdogs, I don't think anybody

0:19:38 > 0:19:46from Liverpool will underestimate us, but we are going to win the Cup

0:19:46 > 0:19:49final. -- going there. 100 years ago last month, Captain Scott and

0:19:49 > 0:19:56his team reached the South Pole. Only to find he had been beaten to

0:19:56 > 0:19:59it. They set sail from Cardiff Docks and this lighthouse is a

0:19:59 > 0:20:04memorial to that glorious failure. There is no disgrace in been

0:20:05 > 0:20:08runner-up, of course, we all know that, but it just might be that we

0:20:08 > 0:20:18have just got up alone before finishing second is not an option.

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0:20:33 > 0:20:40This is the Cardiff team and that Chris, does that systems surprise

0:20:40 > 0:20:43you? It is quite attack -- quite attacking. Yes, Kenny Miller is

0:20:43 > 0:20:49usually up there by himself and Peter Whittingham usually plays at

0:20:49 > 0:20:53the number 10. He can also play out wide. And a bit surprised, he

0:20:53 > 0:20:58hasn't done that a lot this season, Malky Mackay, but he thinks he

0:20:58 > 0:21:05needs to go with two out-and-out strikers. It is a big day for

0:21:05 > 0:21:09Hudson. He has been out for a few Hudson. He has been out for a few

0:21:10 > 0:21:13weeks as well. He is obviously not as fit as they would like him to be.

0:21:13 > 0:21:19He knows he will be in a game today with the players that Liverpool

0:21:19 > 0:21:23have up front. Cardiff like to play and I think that will go against

0:21:23 > 0:21:26them. If you are against better players, you want to be getting in

0:21:26 > 0:21:31their faces and that let them settle. If they get it down and

0:21:31 > 0:21:35play, it could play into Liverpool's hands. Dear think the

0:21:36 > 0:21:40fact that he has gone more positive, Kenny Dalglish might like that? --

0:21:40 > 0:21:44do you think? Absolutely, you will sit in the dressing room and think

0:21:44 > 0:21:50they have gone attacking. But it bodes well for the game, because it

0:21:50 > 0:21:55should be open. Peter Whittingham, a key player. Technically very

0:21:55 > 0:22:01gifted. Yes, a lovely left-foot. They signed him from Aston Villa,

0:22:01 > 0:22:05he is a class operator, very composed on the ball. Excellent

0:22:05 > 0:22:10from dead-ball situations. He gets it up and down over the wall to

0:22:10 > 0:22:15great effect, and he does it consistency. Bat consistently. He

0:22:15 > 0:22:18can also play in front of the back four, so if Malky Mackay wants to

0:22:18 > 0:22:22switch it around, he can take Whittingham from the centre of

0:22:22 > 0:22:27midfield and put him into more of a holding position if Liverpool are

0:22:27 > 0:22:33getting on top. He was terrific in the semi-final. You can tell

0:22:33 > 0:22:38quality on the ball when he gets it down and play. Is the -- here is

0:22:38 > 0:22:46the Liverpool line-up. No place for Craig Bellamy. Andy Carroll is up

0:22:46 > 0:22:51front with Suarez. I think he has had his critics all season longer,

0:22:51 > 0:22:56and there is a massive price to pay for him, but we have seen the green

0:22:56 > 0:23:01shoots of recovery. He has scored a couple, move better. Suarez and

0:23:01 > 0:23:05Gerrard are the big two for Liverpool, but defensively, the

0:23:05 > 0:23:08goalkeeper and the back four are as good as any in the Premier League.

0:23:08 > 0:23:12I think the big problem they have had this season is the lack of

0:23:12 > 0:23:16goals that they have scored, and when you have been signed for �35

0:23:16 > 0:23:20million and you are in a bad night, it is up to you to get the goals.

0:23:20 > 0:23:24It is a big surprise that Craig Bellamy is not there. He may be

0:23:24 > 0:23:29struggling with an injury, but I thought he would play today, just

0:23:29 > 0:23:34because of his pace. He made your Welsh squad, Chris, straight in

0:23:34 > 0:23:40there. Yes. Straight in there. He missed one or two days' training

0:23:40 > 0:23:45this week, an ongoing problem with his knee, said that may be a factor.

0:23:45 > 0:23:49We love your inside information. It is just over a year since Kenny

0:23:49 > 0:23:53Dalglish return as manager of Liverpool. He is no stranger to

0:23:53 > 0:24:03this part of the world. Once upon a time, Wembley was very much a home

0:24:03 > 0:24:07

0:24:07 > 0:24:12Three words. One powerful connection. In a bygone era, the

0:24:12 > 0:24:19home of English football became the second home cooking Kenny and his

0:24:19 > 0:24:26clan. Once there so often, it was coined Anfield said, Dalglish made

0:24:26 > 0:24:30Wembley a home from home. -- Anfield South. It took less than a

0:24:30 > 0:24:35year for him to cement his place in Liverpool folklore, scoring the

0:24:35 > 0:24:38winner on the famous ground in the European Cup final. One of three

0:24:38 > 0:24:48European titles picked up during this most illustrious of

0:24:48 > 0:24:51

0:24:51 > 0:24:55Back row four successive League Cups followed. -- four. West Ham,

0:24:55 > 0:25:05Spurs, Manchester United and Everton all defeated as the love

0:25:05 > 0:25:06

0:25:06 > 0:25:10affair between Liverpool, Dalglish Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan, two

0:25:10 > 0:25:16managerial titans who led the club through unparalleled success, had

0:25:17 > 0:25:23been and gone and in 1986, it was Dalglish's time. Dalglish is in

0:25:23 > 0:25:27there. Yes! The player-manager's scores the goal that may edge

0:25:27 > 0:25:34Liverpool nearer to their 16th Championship. Now player-manager,

0:25:34 > 0:25:44he led from the front. And the same year, led the assault on Wembley

0:25:44 > 0:25:44

0:25:44 > 0:25:49against neighbours Everton in the FA Cup final. Is this three? It is!

0:25:49 > 0:25:55Liverpool have won the Double. Though the glory years couldn't and

0:25:55 > 0:25:59wouldn't last forever, League Cup final defeat in 1987 to Arsenal was

0:25:59 > 0:26:09followed by one of the greatest- ever Cup final shocks. The Crazy

0:26:09 > 0:26:10

0:26:10 > 0:26:16Then in 1989, tragedy struck off the pitch and shook the club, the

0:26:17 > 0:26:21country and Dalglish to the core. The two Merseyside clubs were to

0:26:21 > 0:26:27meet Again, an extra-time victory for the Red brought pride, but

0:26:27 > 0:26:32brought back none of their lost sons and daughters. 3-2, or

0:26:32 > 0:26:36Liverpool! Liverpool are FA Cup winners for the 4th time.

0:26:36 > 0:26:43strain of dealing personally with so many of Liverpool's breed

0:26:44 > 0:26:46families was suppressed. For now. - - bereaved. The League Cup of 1990

0:26:46 > 0:26:52was the last stroke be brought back to Anfield before one of their most

0:26:52 > 0:26:57successful partnerships in English football came to an end.

0:26:57 > 0:27:01biggest problem is the press that pressure I was putting myself under,

0:27:01 > 0:27:07because of my desire to be successful. Bash the pressure.

0:27:07 > 0:27:17Three European Cups, eight league titles, four European Cups -- four

0:27:17 > 0:27:18

0:27:18 > 0:27:23A phenomenal record. And now he is back, reigniting cherished memories

0:27:23 > 0:27:27of old and hoping to banish others from Liverpool's final Wembley

0:27:27 > 0:27:37appearance 16 years ago, when another club's King A came and

0:27:37 > 0:27:39

0:27:39 > 0:27:49ruled this sacred turf. Eric Cantona! Three words. Forever bound

0:27:49 > 0:27:57

0:27:57 > 0:28:03by history. Three words, never more Blimey, they were quite good in

0:28:03 > 0:28:08their day, Liverpool. The great days. There were a lot of magical

0:28:08 > 0:28:12moment, but a lot of sadness as well, obviously Hillsborough. A

0:28:12 > 0:28:18smiling Gary Abbott in 1989, who has sadly passed away back Gary

0:28:18 > 0:28:23applet. And then Kenny resigned in 1991. He was such an unbelievably

0:28:23 > 0:28:28good player, he would moan and complain, and when I started

0:28:28 > 0:28:31playing with him, as a centre-back, you could hit it in five or six

0:28:31 > 0:28:35yards either side of him and every time he would get it, he was that

0:28:35 > 0:28:41good and it gave it unbelievable confidence. He didn't like it to

0:28:41 > 0:28:45bounce it. No! And then he was a fantastic manager. He had the

0:28:45 > 0:28:48ability to get the best out of players. How hard as it were no

0:28:48 > 0:28:54club has been as successful as Liverpool, but that the dominance,

0:28:54 > 0:28:59the last decade has been a struggle to reach those former heights.

0:28:59 > 0:29:05think because their biggest rivals Manchester United are so dominant,

0:29:06 > 0:29:10they have overtaken Liverpool's 18 titles, that is harder to bear. But

0:29:10 > 0:29:13for the Liverpool supporters, they support the team through thick and

0:29:13 > 0:29:18thin, the best supporters end the world. As far as Dalglish is

0:29:18 > 0:29:21concerned, he should never have left Liverpool. They gave him three

0:29:21 > 0:29:26months to recuperate and start again and I think if he had been

0:29:26 > 0:29:34manager for the last 21 years... The Sir Alex Ferguson effect,

0:29:35 > 0:29:38possibly. Wonderful timing of you'll never walk alone. Those

0:29:38 > 0:29:42wonderfully successful at Liverpool years. We can hear from Kenny

0:29:42 > 0:29:45Dalglish now. The fans we have been speaking to

0:29:45 > 0:29:51are saying it is very special to come back to Wembley, how special

0:29:51 > 0:29:57is it for you as a manager and the squad of players? It is a fantastic

0:29:57 > 0:30:01achievement by the players to get here. Most of the players, if not

0:30:01 > 0:30:04all of them, have made a contribution to the result we have

0:30:04 > 0:30:09had during the competition, and it has not been an easy road. A lot of

0:30:09 > 0:30:19difficult games, a lot of excellent performances. It is always great to

0:30:19 > 0:30:27

0:30:27 > 0:30:32measure your success by how often And it has not been easy. You have

0:30:32 > 0:30:38beaten Chelsea at Chelsea. You have had to beat Manchester City. One

0:30:38 > 0:30:42more hurdle. And it is a difficult hurdle. We are under no illusions

0:30:42 > 0:30:46that it will be difficult. It has been a fantastic achievement for

0:30:46 > 0:30:51Cardiff to get to where they are. They are in the middle of the drive

0:30:51 > 0:30:57to get promotion to the Premiership. Malky Mackay has done a fantastic

0:30:57 > 0:31:03job. Both teams are here on merit. Managers have to make team

0:31:03 > 0:31:09selections all the time. Do you do well on team selection for a cup

0:31:09 > 0:31:16final more? Every teeny pig, you disappoint someone. When you get to

0:31:16 > 0:31:21the final, the disappointment is greater. -- every time you pick a

0:31:21 > 0:31:24team, you disappoint some one. We're not going to get success with

0:31:24 > 0:31:3111 players, we're going to get success through having a strong

0:31:31 > 0:31:38squad. That is why we're here. Thank you for your time.

0:31:38 > 0:31:42And Man United played under you as well. You can see the gradual --

0:31:42 > 0:31:45gradual improvement of the team this year but it has not been easy.

0:31:45 > 0:31:48Not at all. Whether you believe with some of the things he has said

0:31:48 > 0:31:55this year or not, I personally believe he has got some things

0:31:55 > 0:32:00wrong in what he has done off the pitch. But as a manager, when

0:32:00 > 0:32:03things are going against you, the way he sticks up at you -- a six up

0:32:03 > 0:32:09for you, you want to repay him because of the fate he shows in

0:32:09 > 0:32:13year. It is a tremendous feeling to have. And that is such an integral

0:32:13 > 0:32:17part of management, bringing out the best in individuals. I joined

0:32:17 > 0:32:20Blackburn after they won the title and I never had a good time as a

0:32:20 > 0:32:27player there. I could not get into the flow of it, but Ken was

0:32:27 > 0:32:32brilliant with me. He was 1-1, try to give me confidence, absolutely

0:32:32 > 0:32:36superb. Some managers have got that, and some have not. He certainly has.

0:32:36 > 0:32:42He has been criticised for the way he handled the Luis Suarez affair

0:32:42 > 0:32:48but despite that, he remains a crucial player for them. He was

0:32:48 > 0:32:51badly missed when he was out for eight matches. I think when you

0:32:51 > 0:32:59look at success at Liverpool, and you measure the success that he had

0:32:59 > 0:33:03with Fernando Torres, within six or eight weeks, it was Fernando who?

0:33:03 > 0:33:06When you sit at Anfield and watch When you sit at Anfield and watch

0:33:06 > 0:33:12this guy play, the anticipation of the supporters, every time he gets

0:33:12 > 0:33:17the ball, there is a roar. Again Stoke City, a brilliant nutmeg and

0:33:17 > 0:33:26a fantastic goal. It is the quick feet, that trickery. He beats about

0:33:26 > 0:33:3214 men against Manchester United. The back-heel here is absolutely

0:33:32 > 0:33:37sensational. Every time he gets the ball in the box, the defenders are

0:33:37 > 0:33:43scared to go near him. Because he has that kind of ability. Quick

0:33:43 > 0:33:47feet, that takes him away from players. That movement, allied with

0:33:48 > 0:33:54the sort of thing. He is just the sort of thing. He is just

0:33:54 > 0:33:57fantastic to watch. Terrific talent. Let us hear from Malky Mackay.

0:33:57 > 0:34:03What is your state of readiness ahead of the game? I gather some of

0:34:03 > 0:34:06the guys watch the Nathan Cleverley fight last night? Yes, they have a

0:34:06 > 0:34:09look at the rugby and some of them are friendly with Nathan, he

0:34:09 > 0:34:16trained with us for a few days. They watched him win last night.

0:34:16 > 0:34:23Delighted for him. It has given you left? It was a good day. -- giving

0:34:23 > 0:34:28you a lift. Some tough calls to make as the manager. Tom Heaton and

0:34:28 > 0:34:33Mark Huddlestone. We were guarding his ankle last week, Tom Heaton, so

0:34:33 > 0:34:38he goes in goals. And Mark Austin comes back in, shaking off a calf

0:34:38 > 0:34:44injury. You must be delighted to be the underdogs. No pressure? So they

0:34:44 > 0:34:48say. We are concentrating on our own thing. We are delighted to be

0:34:48 > 0:34:52out there and making sure that we perform to the standards that I

0:34:52 > 0:34:57know we can. Cardiff have been to Wembley a lot in recent times.

0:34:57 > 0:35:00Unhappy memories of cup finals and play-off defeats. Does that they're

0:35:01 > 0:35:06happy -- bear heavy on some of the players who took part in those

0:35:06 > 0:35:11games. --? There are not many of them left. The group this year our

0:35:11 > 0:35:16focus on what we have done this year. It is a new start. It is a

0:35:16 > 0:35:19different group of players altogether. All we know we are run

0:35:19 > 0:35:29for a tough game, playing against a good team, but we have our own mind

0:35:29 > 0:35:30

0:35:30 > 0:35:38set. -- we know we are up for a tough game. Underdogs should be

0:35:38 > 0:35:44beaten nine times out of 10, but there is always the other time.

0:35:44 > 0:35:49Malky Mackay and Craig Bellamy walking out there. He cannot get in

0:35:49 > 0:35:52the Liverpool starting line-up, perhaps he once again with Cardiff?

0:35:52 > 0:35:58He will be delighted he is not He will be delighted he is not

0:35:58 > 0:36:02playing. Cardiff players, out on the pitch. An important time for

0:36:02 > 0:36:08them. Like they said, they are very calm and it is important they do

0:36:08 > 0:36:13not get overly nervous. Exactly. Many of the Liverpool boys have

0:36:13 > 0:36:16played on big occasions but some of these Cardiff boys have not. It is

0:36:16 > 0:36:20important they played a game. They know they're playing a good team in

0:36:20 > 0:36:22Liverpool and yes, it is the final Liverpool and yes, it is the final

0:36:22 > 0:36:31but they cannot concentrate on the surroundings. Concentrate on the

0:36:31 > 0:36:35job in hand, and become. -- Be calm. They have to start well. When you

0:36:36 > 0:36:40come to her first major Wembley appearance, you're going to be

0:36:40 > 0:36:45nervous. Individually, collectively, you have to get to grips with the

0:36:45 > 0:36:50game. The main thing, do not concede early. As you would expect,

0:36:50 > 0:36:58terrific support for both sides. Comedian John Bishop is among the

0:36:58 > 0:37:02Liverpool fans. And he is getting stick from some of the Cardiff fans.

0:37:02 > 0:37:07In a to has been a long time as a Liverpool fan since you had a

0:37:07 > 0:37:13chance to come to Wembley. How does it feel? I was not born last time.

0:37:13 > 0:37:21It was 60 years ago. I think it will be a great day. It is a great

0:37:22 > 0:37:25day for everyone. There is banter with the Cardiff lads, it is great.

0:37:25 > 0:37:31There has been a massive turnaround under Kenny but it has been a long

0:37:31 > 0:37:35time since Liverpool won a trophy. It is. And you can see the emotion

0:37:35 > 0:37:39that he displayed in the semi-final. He loves the club. It means

0:37:39 > 0:37:45something for the club to show that we're making steps in the right

0:37:45 > 0:37:52direction. And there is a bit weak coming up for you, for Sport Relief.

0:37:52 > 0:37:55-- Big week. Straight after the match, I am going to Paris and I am

0:37:55 > 0:38:00doing a thing for Sport Relief -- Sport Relief called a week of hell,

0:38:00 > 0:38:07where I start tomorrow morning, and then coming back here just after. I

0:38:07 > 0:38:12am writing -- running 185 miles. We have just been allowed the approval

0:38:12 > 0:38:15from the French government for me to run across the -- row across the

0:38:15 > 0:38:19Channel and then run three marathons over three days,

0:38:19 > 0:38:26finishing in London, to raise money for Sport Relief. You are looking

0:38:26 > 0:38:31fit. How much training had he done? Loads! This is all make-up, it's

0:38:31 > 0:38:41telly, it isn't a real! We are in front of a Green screen, we are not

0:38:41 > 0:38:48even at Wembley! Found a to as it Stuffer. We wish him all the best.

0:38:48 > 0:38:52The Sport Relief website has all the information on his challenge. A

0:38:52 > 0:39:02key figure for Cardiff will be their lone striker, Kenny Miller.

0:39:02 > 0:39:09

0:39:10 > 0:39:15Kenny Miller on the turn! It is a remarkable story. There you were,

0:39:15 > 0:39:20out in Turkey, you came to Cardiff City for �850,000 and during a

0:39:20 > 0:39:25League Cup final. Did you think this would happen? -- you why in a

0:39:25 > 0:39:33League Cup final. To reach the Cup final you rely on a lot, bowl-off

0:39:33 > 0:39:38love -- the lot of the draw. We have come up against Blackburn in

0:39:38 > 0:39:48the Cup, penalty shoot-out in the quarter-final, and I thought we won

0:39:48 > 0:39:48

0:39:48 > 0:39:55that deservedly so. Miller scorers! How excited are you? I am looking

0:39:55 > 0:39:58forward to it. It is a fantastic stadium. The only time I would ever

0:39:58 > 0:40:04be here is if it is an international or a cup final.

0:40:04 > 0:40:09Either way, it is a massive occasion. What does it mean for the

0:40:09 > 0:40:14football club to be at Wembley again? You were not part of the

0:40:14 > 0:40:18previous three trips. It is a huge achievement. This is four visits in

0:40:18 > 0:40:22four years. It is fantastic. know what people are saying about

0:40:22 > 0:40:25Cardiff City, the league form has dipped, it is obvious what has

0:40:25 > 0:40:33happened, they have taken one eye off the Championship. Is that

0:40:33 > 0:40:36right? Over the course of the season, you are going to have a dip.

0:40:37 > 0:40:40For us, it coincides with the Cup final but I can say that the

0:40:40 > 0:40:47players, personally, I have will be looking past any league games to

0:40:47 > 0:40:51the Cup final. -- I have not been looking past. Promotion is our

0:40:51 > 0:40:56bread and butter. We would swap a Carling Cup win for promotion any

0:40:56 > 0:41:05day of the week. It has been unfortunate that we have hit this

0:41:05 > 0:41:10drop in form. It is England versus Wales, if you like. But two shots -

0:41:10 > 0:41:18- two Scots in the managerial positions. Was Kenny in Dalglish

0:41:18 > 0:41:21and influence on you when you were a child? -- Kenny Dalglish. Yes. He

0:41:21 > 0:41:25is a world-class footballer. Obviously, to come up against his

0:41:26 > 0:41:30team, it is an honour. What do you make of his Liverpool side? There

0:41:30 > 0:41:34is some great players, including Craig Bellamy, who was in his

0:41:34 > 0:41:38dressing room this time last year. The Arie fantastic team. Craig

0:41:38 > 0:41:44Bellamy is one of many. Five, six fantastic players. And their

0:41:44 > 0:41:50captain, being their main man, Luis Suarez -- Luis Suarez. It is going

0:41:50 > 0:41:56to be a tough task. How will you get on? We need to get back to

0:41:56 > 0:42:02working hard. We need to play at high tempo, working hard. We are

0:42:02 > 0:42:09not under any illusions that we are favourites. They are rightly

0:42:09 > 0:42:19favourites because they are a top Premiership team. We do not -- we

0:42:19 > 0:42:23

0:42:23 > 0:42:28know we can impose ourselves on the Rangers and Celtic and Scotland.

0:42:29 > 0:42:33Can he win a Cup in England with a Welsh club? It is getting far too

0:42:33 > 0:42:38complicated for me. He is a handful. He will score goals and he has done

0:42:38 > 0:42:45throughout his career. Even if it is not going for him, when he's out

0:42:45 > 0:42:50of the game, if he gets a chance he will find a bit of space. He knows

0:42:50 > 0:42:55where the net is. I was speaking to Malky Mackay about him. Just there,

0:42:55 > 0:42:59you find him in between the two centre-halves, running in behind.

0:42:59 > 0:43:07He does not like getting up against the big centre-halves. He likes to

0:43:07 > 0:43:15find pockets of space. Watches the run. -- watches run. Once he gets

0:43:15 > 0:43:20in there, and he has done that all his career, he scores goals. He had

0:43:20 > 0:43:27big boots to fill because last year it was Bellamy, and Bothroyd, and

0:43:27 > 0:43:29Chopra. He will do that time and time again and he is going to have

0:43:29 > 0:43:37to do that today because he will not stand up against the centre-

0:43:37 > 0:43:42halves. Malky Mackay was telling me that as a person he leads very well

0:43:42 > 0:43:45and the dressing room. and the dressing room.

0:43:45 > 0:43:55Anti-Scottish. And he has been given a bit of support. -- and he

0:43:55 > 0:43:57

0:43:57 > 0:44:00is Scottish. The target man, up front, he is 6 feet 4. They will

0:44:00 > 0:44:07have to change. That will be interesting to see if they employ

0:44:07 > 0:44:11those targets. -- tactics. Liverpool players walking back into

0:44:11 > 0:44:15the dressing room after warm-up. Craig Bellamy, on the bench for

0:44:15 > 0:44:22Liverpool. And he is arguing, that is not like him(!) Who would have

0:44:23 > 0:44:32thought? The last time Liverpool won a trophy was in 2006 with the

0:44:33 > 0:44:46

0:44:46 > 0:44:51FA Cup. It was handled by Steven Six long years since Liverpool last

0:44:51 > 0:44:56delivered on the big stage. That is a long time for you guys. It is for

0:44:56 > 0:45:00a club the size of Liverpool. You would not expect us to go that long.

0:45:00 > 0:45:05There has been some frustrating times since then. We have been

0:45:05 > 0:45:11unfortunate. We got to the Champions League final in 2007 and

0:45:11 > 0:45:15we lost it. That shows you how big this is for us. Bowl the last few

0:45:15 > 0:45:18years, involved in the Champions League, this tournament gets

0:45:19 > 0:45:23diluted. You have to make other competitions the priority. There

0:45:23 > 0:45:29was no Europe this year. Three trophies up for grabs. We needed to

0:45:29 > 0:45:38take them seriously. From Kenny's team selection and our performances,

0:45:38 > 0:45:48we have shown how important it has been for us. Gerard scorers! I want

0:45:48 > 0:45:49

0:45:49 > 0:45:54to win as many medals as I can. Finishing 4th is never good enough

0:45:54 > 0:45:57but it is financially important for the club. From a selfish point of

0:45:57 > 0:46:02view, playing at Wembley and walking up the steps and lifting

0:46:02 > 0:46:06trophies, as captain of the team, that is what it is all about.

0:46:07 > 0:46:12Playing at Wembley, it is extra special. Growing up as a kid,

0:46:12 > 0:46:19watching Cup finals, I am really looking forward to the occasion. It

0:46:19 > 0:46:24is very important that we perform and we do not underestimate Cardiff.

0:46:24 > 0:46:28The to a self here than this time last year. You were out of all the

0:46:28 > 0:46:32competitions 12 months ago. This time last year, the season was

0:46:32 > 0:46:38basically over for us. It was not good enough. Kenny came in and

0:46:38 > 0:46:44lifted everyone up. We have moved forward. We are in the Carling Cup

0:46:44 > 0:46:49final and we are close. We are four points off 4th, and we believe we

0:46:49 > 0:46:55can make up that gap. You know the manager very well. What kind of

0:46:55 > 0:47:00character is he away from the dug- out? He still thinks he is a player.

0:47:00 > 0:47:04He is a fantastic manager, he is a good man-manager. He shows the

0:47:04 > 0:47:10players a lot of support and he is really honest. That is all you ask

0:47:10 > 0:47:14for as a player. Around the ground, he still thinks he wants a game of

0:47:14 > 0:47:17footie. He loves the game and his passionate. You have to be a winner

0:47:17 > 0:47:23at this club but you have to play under pressure. There is a lot

0:47:23 > 0:47:29expected. He's been there as a player and a manager. So we is the

0:47:29 > 0:47:33ideal person to take advice from. Can ask you about Craig Bellamy? He

0:47:33 > 0:47:38seems to be at ease with himself since coming back here. I think

0:47:38 > 0:47:44that is down to Kenny. Kenny has confidence in him. He is protecting

0:47:44 > 0:47:48a man looking after him. -- protecting him and looking after

0:47:48 > 0:47:52him. His confidence is high and he is looking sharper. He was the

0:47:52 > 0:48:02signing of the year, and he has scored some really important goal

0:48:02 > 0:48:02

0:48:02 > 0:48:07era. -- goals. For all the progress that Liverpool have made over the

0:48:07 > 0:48:11last 12 months, a frustrating as it before you with the groin and ankle

0:48:11 > 0:48:15problems, and the season that you have endured? It has been a tough

0:48:15 > 0:48:20year. The last couple mums have been enjoyable because I had been

0:48:20 > 0:48:23fit and back with the team. I have felt like a football player again.

0:48:23 > 0:48:31I worked hard to get back four days like this, so why am looking

0:48:31 > 0:48:36forward to it. That is the view from high above the Wembley Stadium.

0:48:36 > 0:48:42This is what their plane for, the Carling Cup, being brought out onto

0:48:42 > 0:48:46the field by Brian Keegan, a good Liverpool name but no relation. A

0:48:46 > 0:48:53warrant Officer, first class, for the Royal Electrical and Mechanical

0:48:53 > 0:48:59Engineers. It is a big occasion for him. Wonderfully done. Steven

0:48:59 > 0:49:03Gerrard, we saw him talking there, and interestingly, there are more

0:49:03 > 0:49:09gratuitous shots from the season of 1986. Liverpool's success over

0:49:09 > 0:49:12Everton that I have just about got over! For him, he says it is more

0:49:12 > 0:49:16about winning trophies than finishing 4th. I would disagree

0:49:16 > 0:49:20with that because I think the only place to be in modern-day football

0:49:20 > 0:49:25is the Champions League. If you look at him, in the champions' lead

0:49:25 > 0:49:30to better than six and the FA Cup, six years about a trophy, a barren

0:49:30 > 0:49:37spell, obviously the type of player he is he wants to win trophies.

0:49:37 > 0:49:43This is his trademark. When he came back after Newcastle, it was all

0:49:43 > 0:49:53into ball for Andy Carroll. -- ball after ball. It is a great save by

0:49:53 > 0:49:58Roddy there. This is against Joe Hart. Good touch, bad touch, great

0:49:59 > 0:50:03touch. He is such a big influence for Liverpool in the dressing room.

0:50:03 > 0:50:09He is not back to his best but he is getting there. Every time I see

0:50:09 > 0:50:19him play, he gets better. Terrific scenes out there. The fans warming

0:50:19 > 0:50:21

0:50:21 > 0:50:25up, expectant. It is a great occasion. It is a great advert for

0:50:25 > 0:50:30football in this country, when you see how we have done the final.

0:50:30 > 0:50:37Both sets of fans, fantastic fans. Liverpool I used to winning

0:50:37 > 0:50:41trophies in Cardiff. Look at that, that is a great advert for football.

0:50:41 > 0:50:47If you look back, how many clubs would be thinking, maybe I should

0:50:47 > 0:50:50have put my best team out in one of the ties? Let's face it, at the

0:50:50 > 0:50:54beginning of the competition you see the big clubs putting their

0:50:54 > 0:51:00squad players out. How many of them are looking now and saying, I wish

0:51:00 > 0:51:06we were there now won this magnificent occasion? The fans

0:51:06 > 0:51:11think it is special. Let us hope the game lives up to the occasion.

0:51:11 > 0:51:16We have two teams who like to play football. That is a big plus point.

0:51:16 > 0:51:21Some big-name players out there. It made me laugh when I heard them say,

0:51:21 > 0:51:29well, there is not a lot of pressure on us. There is pressure

0:51:29 > 0:51:33on them, because there is a place in Europe at stake. You have

0:51:33 > 0:51:37thousands of fans travelling miles to watch them perform. It is great

0:51:37 > 0:51:42for Cardiff to be here. It is a terrific achievement but it is a

0:51:42 > 0:51:46must win for Liverpool. No one likes to lose a final. It does not

0:51:46 > 0:51:55matter who you are. The Cardiff City players are on show today.

0:51:55 > 0:52:02Individually, they were not want to be shown up. Strange things can

0:52:02 > 0:52:08happen. As you well know. 1988 at Wembley. You want to avoid 1986 but

0:52:08 > 0:52:11you want to bring up 1988? Was that in colour or black and white?

0:52:11 > 0:52:18a year looking forward to a great occasion and hopefully the teams

0:52:18 > 0:52:22will play well. -- we are looking forward. Which team will win?

0:52:22 > 0:52:29will be the boys in red. I think they have too much for Cardiff.

0:52:29 > 0:52:34They are waiting to hammer somebody. Because of the impetus and momentum

0:52:34 > 0:52:38that beating Brighton has given them, and I know the lack of goals

0:52:38 > 0:52:42has been a problem, but because they scored six against Brighton,

0:52:42 > 0:52:47they will go from strength to strength. It starts here.

0:52:47 > 0:52:51Cardiff possibly do it? A lot has got to go wrong for Liverpool and

0:52:51 > 0:52:55Cardiff will have to get everything right. It will be difficult for

0:52:55 > 0:53:01Cardiff but we have seen it before. Cup finals being Cup finals, a lot

0:53:01 > 0:53:05is going to go wrong for Liverpool. The beginning of the game is.

0:53:05 > 0:53:10Cardiff have to keep it tight and make sure their players react well

0:53:10 > 0:53:14to the atmosphere. I know a few of them have played here in play-offs

0:53:14 > 0:53:19but this will be different. There is a lot of pressure and they have

0:53:20 > 0:53:24to perform. There is no second chances. I think it will be a very

0:53:24 > 0:53:28tight game. I do not think it will be as easy as many of the Liverpool

0:53:28 > 0:53:35fans think it will be. It will be difficult to control the ball on

0:53:35 > 0:53:38top of those covers. It has been six years since Liverpool won a

0:53:38 > 0:53:43major trophy. It has been a lot longer since Cardiff got their

0:53:43 > 0:53:45hands on some silverware. This hands on some silverware. This

0:53:45 > 0:53:51really matters. Let us join the commentary team of Guy Mowbray and

0:53:51 > 0:53:55Martin Lawrence in. Thank you, Gary. -- Mark Lawrenson.

0:53:55 > 0:54:03It is a perfect spring afternoon. Just right for the first silverware

0:54:03 > 0:54:08of the season to: -- glint in the sunshine. The trophy, the weather,

0:54:08 > 0:54:13the hemisphere. Liverpool at Wembley, it is like a major final

0:54:13 > 0:54:17of yesteryear. Kenny Dalglish and all. The team will be let out for a

0:54:17 > 0:54:24Wembley final by one of the City's own, a Liverpudlian, for only the

0:54:24 > 0:54:31second time. Tommy Smith in 1971, and Steven Gerrard in 2012. For

0:54:31 > 0:54:36Cardiff City and the Bluebirds, it is familiar territory. For their

0:54:36 > 0:54:414th visit to Wembley in the 21st century. Looking to complete the

0:54:41 > 0:54:44second Triple Crown of the weekend for Wales. A victory over England

0:54:44 > 0:54:48at the Six Nations, and Nathan Cleverley defended his light

0:54:48 > 0:54:53heavyweight title last night. Cardiff City are going for the hat-

0:54:53 > 0:55:03trick. All that and it is St David's Day on Thursday as well as

0:55:03 > 0:55:05

0:55:05 > 0:55:09being the Chinese Year of the dragon. Those Liverpool players are

0:55:09 > 0:55:17red hot favourites. We said that one year ago. You can get the same

0:55:17 > 0:55:23odds on a Liverpool victory as you do on Arsenal. Birmingham City of

0:55:23 > 0:55:33said those odds last year. Can Cardiff do the same? -- upset the

0:55:33 > 0:56:01

0:56:01 > 0:56:05odds. Out of the tension of the Wembley looks a picture. Really

0:56:05 > 0:56:15good showcase for English football around the world, this game, being

0:56:15 > 0:56:22

0:56:22 > 0:56:32screened in an estimated 151 Liverpool manager. I expect he

0:56:32 > 0:56:38thought that they would never come again. The 52nd League Cup final.

0:56:38 > 0:56:47The presentation party. Mark Hunter, the Chief Executive of the sponsors.

0:56:47 > 0:56:53Greg Clark, chairman of the Football League. And Lou Armstrong

0:56:53 > 0:57:01representing the Football League's official charity this season. I

0:57:01 > 0:57:08must mention the mascots. It is a huge day for them. Somebody has

0:57:08 > 0:57:18told me that it was the Cardiff's nine-year-old mascot's birthday

0:57:18 > 0:57:28

0:57:28 > 0:57:38this weekend. Mark Hudson. He takes the dignitaries down the line. They

0:57:38 > 0:57:53

0:57:53 > 0:57:57won 3-1 against Peterborough at the Managers with birthdays a fortnight

0:57:57 > 0:58:07apart. The Cardiff boss was 40 last Sunday and Kenny Dalglish will be

0:58:07 > 0:58:08

0:58:08 > 0:58:1261 in one week's time. There is a wonderful noise around the place.

0:58:12 > 0:58:22Cardiff are delighted to be back. Liverpool supporters savouring

0:58:22 > 0:58:32

0:58:32 > 0:58:37their first taste, incredibly, of Glaswegians. Let's look at the

0:58:37 > 0:58:42Cardiff City line-up. A bold team named by Malky Mackay with two

0:58:42 > 0:58:50genuine strikers and width to supply them from Don Cowie and John

0:58:50 > 0:59:00Mason. Peter Whittingham is joint top scorer with Kenny Miller on 10.

0:59:00 > 0:59:04

0:59:04 > 0:59:08plays for and captains Liverpool. In a team that has surprised those

0:59:08 > 0:59:18who expected Craig Bellamy to play. Stuart Bellamy and Jordan Henderson

0:59:18 > 0:59:28

0:59:28 > 0:59:33atmosphere and hopefully enjoy the game, somebody well-versed to

0:59:34 > 0:59:37winning League Cups with Liverpool, Mark Lawrenson. It was in black and

0:59:37 > 0:59:41white. I have completely forgotten. You said that Cardiff have picked

0:59:41 > 0:59:48an attacking team and I think Malky Mackay has decided that is the best

0:59:48 > 0:59:54way to play against Liverpool. From Liverpool's point of view, without

0:59:54 > 0:59:59Bellamy, I wonder if the view is that there is half an hour left,

0:59:59 > 1:00:03maybe they will throw Craig Bellamy on and he will change the game.

1:00:03 > 1:00:07has been struggling. His training has been limited. He has had

1:00:07 > 1:00:13painful injections and maybe that is the reason why Craig Bellamy is

1:00:13 > 1:00:17only a substitute today. Tough luck for air Steven Gerrard's Cousin,

1:00:17 > 1:00:22Anthony. In the absence of their skipper, he has been playing with

1:00:22 > 1:00:28them. But he was left out of the play-off last time Cardiff were

1:00:28 > 1:00:30here, two years ago. Again, he has to sit on the bench. It is not

1:00:30 > 1:00:36something you want to get used to. It has been a while since Hudson

1:00:36 > 1:00:46has played. He has not played since the middle part of January. It is a

1:00:46 > 1:00:56bit of a gamble. Mark Clatternberg is the referee today. Simon Beck

1:00:56 > 1:01:01

1:01:01 > 1:01:09will assist him with the flags. a big time Cup-final. I walked up

1:01:09 > 1:01:19at 11 am and I have never seen that many people before kick-off. Five

1:01:19 > 1:01:26

1:01:26 > 1:01:36Cardiff in the huddle. And a great noise coming from writer around

1:01:36 > 1:01:56

1:01:56 > 1:02:06this wonderful stadium. -- from against Premier League. Cardiff

1:02:06 > 1:02:13City against Liverpool. England against Wales. For a report, it is

1:02:13 > 1:02:23their first visit to Wembley since 1996. -- for Liverpool. It is a

1:02:23 > 1:02:33

1:02:33 > 1:02:43while since they have won anything. And that is Jose Enrique. Left

1:02:43 > 1:03:22

1:03:22 > 1:03:28charge. And there are men on either side. He has gone for the top

1:03:28 > 1:03:38corner! Rattles the woodwork! Gerrard! What an effort from

1:03:38 > 1:03:40

1:03:40 > 1:03:50Johnson! So, so close. Yes. Gerrard, travelling some 56 yards with the

1:03:50 > 1:03:56

1:03:56 > 1:04:06ball. Great technique. I think it was four against three at one stage.

1:04:06 > 1:04:16

1:04:16 > 1:04:24Gerrard blazed high and wide. And a as we speak, trying to sort that

1:04:24 > 1:04:34out. I should think they will spend most of the match there. You are a

1:04:34 > 1:05:07

1:05:07 > 1:05:17long way away in your allocated matter - the ball has gone out

1:05:17 > 1:05:18

1:05:18 > 1:05:28anyway. This is a great angle to see this again. Tom Heaton was

1:05:28 > 1:05:28

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1:06:40 > 1:06:45around. Over the top and there was a push from Carroll. A good

1:06:45 > 1:06:53advantage play by Mark Clattenburg earlier on. Yes. Undoubtedly a push

1:06:53 > 1:07:02by Carroll. What I your feelings on Andy Carroll at the moment? Is seen,

1:07:02 > 1:07:08as he says at the moment, -- is he, as he says at the moment, getting

1:07:08 > 1:07:13there? He is. He has definitely improved over the last few games.

1:07:13 > 1:07:17He is back to match fitness but still not the awesome Andy Carroll

1:07:17 > 1:07:24that played for Newcastle and used to frighten everybody. Especially

1:07:24 > 1:07:34when you played against him! And he is a regular team mate now for

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1:08:52 > 1:09:02and very much the second choice. looks like he is wearing orange

1:09:02 > 1:09:02

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1:09:57 > 1:10:07Miller was. He was trotting back into midfield and was not sure who

1:10:07 > 1:10:36

1:10:36 > 1:10:46Coventry City. He played in the Carling Cup a four -- Carling Cup

1:10:46 > 1:11:04

1:11:04 > 1:11:07get onto the pitch. They are smiling. We saw that little

1:11:07 > 1:11:11argument he was having before the match and it was a Football League

1:11:12 > 1:11:21official. He was telling him to get off the pitch because the warm-up

1:11:22 > 1:11:55

1:11:55 > 1:12:05mate of Craig Bellamy. -- and the leant back as he struck and a great

1:12:05 > 1:12:06

1:12:06 > 1:12:16move and nice Work from Cowie. You should at least make the

1:12:16 > 1:12:18

1:12:18 > 1:12:28goalkeeper work. Two members of the strong cop -- Scottish connection,

1:12:28 > 1:12:33Don Cowie and Kenny Miller. Those two will be in the Scotland squad

1:12:33 > 1:12:38for the international next week. And Steven Gerrard will hope to be

1:12:38 > 1:12:48back here perhaps leading England. We haven't had that question

1:12:48 > 1:13:05

1:13:05 > 1:13:15Cardiff that the space that Suarez is finding. Balls are going around

1:13:15 > 1:13:15

1:13:15 > 1:13:25the corner and Suarez is coming off people. He has scored in his last

1:13:25 > 1:13:25

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1:14:28 > 1:14:34two games since he came back from for him. Up against Cardiff and

1:14:34 > 1:14:44just one previous appearance against them. And scored in a

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1:15:26 > 1:15:35Newcastle United win. Now in the they won against Manchester United.

1:15:35 > 1:15:45That was in 2003. And twice against West Ham. I think we remember those

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1:16:56 > 1:17:05opponent for Carroll, but he kicks the ball wide. Everybody across the

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1:18:03 > 1:18:13midfield had lots of time and space again for Johnson. Almost playing

1:18:13 > 1:18:29

1:18:29 > 1:18:33has featured a club from outside the top division of English

1:18:33 > 1:18:43football since 2001. Liverpool were in that one as well, beating

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1:19:33 > 1:19:43Birmingham City, but they needed up position and drive forward. He

1:19:43 > 1:19:52

1:19:52 > 1:19:57thought about it... And on to wonder if it was sneaking in.

1:19:57 > 1:20:07No pressure from Cardiff on the man either on the ball against

1:20:07 > 1:20:07

1:20:07 > 1:20:17Liverpool. They need to mount a bit of pressure of their own. And not

1:20:17 > 1:20:25

1:20:25 > 1:20:35the best return there to Miller but amazing! Cardiff City lead! Joe

1:20:35 > 1:20:38

1:20:38 > 1:20:46Mason! What a cool, cool finish! And it is the blue flags flying at

1:20:46 > 1:20:56Wembley! And greater gains Liverpool as well. He had so much

1:20:56 > 1:20:56

1:20:56 > 1:21:03time and space. A lovely little ball there. I would have thought it

1:21:03 > 1:21:07went through his legs. It is the 20-year-old's 8th goal of the

1:21:07 > 1:21:13season. The man who scored the only goal of the 4th round tie against

1:21:13 > 1:21:23Burnley. Signed from Plymouth Argyle. He's the talk of all

1:21:23 > 1:21:31Cardiff right now! Didn't he take it well?! Excellent! Great ball

1:21:31 > 1:21:38from Kenny Miller. The Carling Cup Final is a light, well and truly!

1:21:38 > 1:21:43Against the run of play! What can Suarez do? No reply yet. Liverpool

1:21:43 > 1:21:47have been finding a way through but then Malky Mackay's team have come

1:21:47 > 1:21:53through and shown real confidence when coming forward. Look at the

1:21:53 > 1:22:03manager, he can hardly get his breath! And Kenny is seething.

1:22:03 > 1:22:05

1:22:05 > 1:22:11yeah. A few echoes of last year in this final. Most of the noise came

1:22:12 > 1:22:17from the Birmingham fans that time. Again, it is the red end that toss

1:22:17 > 1:22:27sat with their arms folded, wondering how that happened. -- Map

1:22:27 > 1:22:33

1:22:33 > 1:22:43of ours sat. -- at that are sat for the goal there was outstanding,

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1:23:46 > 1:23:52gets the chance and Cardiff almost give it to him. Against the run of

1:23:52 > 1:24:02play, just a bit! Liverpool have had two thirds of the ball. Doesn't

1:24:02 > 1:24:34

1:24:34 > 1:24:43foot, I think. A rather desperate attempt there

1:24:43 > 1:24:53from Gunnarsson. And it was the right call. Great position from the

1:24:53 > 1:25:04

1:25:04 > 1:25:09glowering. Any blame attached to him? Well, yeah, because he had

1:25:09 > 1:25:19lots of time to head it to where you wanted and the last places one

1:25:19 > 1:25:36

1:25:36 > 1:25:45-- he wanted was to the guy he had when there was something a lot

1:25:46 > 1:25:54safer on. Yes. He is getting nearer with his efforts. Well, I would

1:25:54 > 1:26:04like to say that but I would be lying. We have talked about

1:26:04 > 1:26:05

1:26:05 > 1:26:15Liverpool not having clashes with the Cardiff midfield. Eyebrows were

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1:26:56 > 1:27:06raised when we saw that Miller was defined Jose Enrique again. -- to

1:27:06 > 1:27:08

1:27:08 > 1:27:18find. And a bit of confusion as to which way things are going. Yeah, a

1:27:18 > 1:27:23

1:27:23 > 1:27:28good game, this, for Stewart Downing. And a big week for him

1:27:28 > 1:27:38with England game coming up as well. Yes. Henderson would be another one

1:27:38 > 1:27:42

1:27:43 > 1:27:52for me. Two really big Liverpool buys. I think the jury is still out

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1:29:52 > 1:29:56was my shirt. Free kick. -- a receive it. Great ball in. It was

1:29:56 > 1:30:00only Andy Carroll within five yards. That is one of the problems were

1:30:00 > 1:30:04Liverpool, more so at home, the lack of midfield players moving

1:30:04 > 1:30:14into the box. I think it is a reason why they have drawn so many

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1:32:01 > 1:32:09better than that. It was almost a nervous starter before he hit it.

1:32:09 > 1:32:13When he came end, it was like, maybe. "I can't take it with my

1:32:14 > 1:32:19right, but I'll have a goal". the one goal in English football,

1:32:19 > 1:32:29for Newcastle against Nottingham Forest tonight years ago. He has

1:32:29 > 1:32:59

1:33:00 > 1:33:08Made by Taylor. I think the ball took some one's hand but it was hit

1:33:08 > 1:33:18so quick. We will sit in a minute. It happens a lot but you have an

1:33:18 > 1:33:34

1:33:34 > 1:33:39post. I think Heiton thinks this is in. Watches dive. -- watch his

1:33:39 > 1:33:49diver. Where are you so poor to put your hand. His hand got nowhere

1:33:49 > 1:34:16

1:34:16 > 1:34:23be doing it right in front of the manager. He scored 11 goals for

1:34:23 > 1:34:27Cardiff City last season whilst on loan from Manchester City. He has

1:34:27 > 1:34:35been excellent for Liverpool. Every time he has played, he has made

1:34:35 > 1:34:45things happen. The man who got to Liverpool to this Wembley final.

1:34:45 > 1:35:01

1:35:01 > 1:35:07The second goal in the second leg refereeing. Let's have one more

1:35:07 > 1:35:17look at the Liverpool appeal. His left-arm his outstretched. If that

1:35:17 > 1:35:20

1:35:20 > 1:35:30is a penalty, we may as well go Clatternberg. I think he talks to

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1:36:49 > 1:36:56the players and they appreciate for Cardiff. Throw your body in the

1:36:56 > 1:37:06way. I think he threw his head in. John Mason, putting his head in

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1:38:23 > 1:38:33where it might just heard. -- Joe competition in the finals. It never

1:38:33 > 1:38:38

1:38:38 > 1:38:44seems to go quite as planned for Cup as a manager. Runner-up in 1987.

1:38:44 > 1:38:54And there is the big boss, John Henry is here. The one on the left?

1:38:54 > 1:39:31

1:39:32 > 1:39:41Excellent. With respect to Anthony Gerrard, you can see why Mark

1:39:42 > 1:39:42

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1:40:31 > 1:40:37Kenny Miller, but one huge assisted Gerrard. Biggest Liverpool chance

1:40:37 > 1:40:43of the game. How did he miss that? He was nowhere near it. Great play

1:40:43 > 1:40:53by Downing. Mick Naughton is twisted over the place, every

1:40:53 > 1:41:19

1:41:19 > 1:41:29single way. He has to have closed with Liverpool's Spanish full-back.

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1:42:11 > 1:42:21I'm sure he has got a free kick. was a theatrical dive. He asked to

1:42:21 > 1:42:53

1:42:53 > 1:43:03get this right. -- he has to get getting involved. Needlessly. That

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1:44:13 > 1:44:23Suarez in this competition. Malky Mackay and Andrew Taylor slowing it

1:44:23 > 1:44:36

1:44:36 > 1:44:44down. Two minutes until 45 have last big chance before the break

1:44:44 > 1:44:54for Liverpool. I thought for a moment, at him and Skrtel were

1:44:54 > 1:45:23

1:45:23 > 1:45:33missed. It was an unbelievable chance. Either side of the

1:45:33 > 1:45:38

1:45:38 > 1:45:48was a great ball in, and poor defensively from Cardiff. Is that

1:45:48 > 1:46:08

1:46:08 > 1:46:18one of those moments that makes you has fallen. The ball has gone way

1:46:18 > 1:46:22behind. Good pressure. He in the end, that made him snatch at it. It

1:46:22 > 1:46:32was a great block, and then just as he gets it out of his feet, they

1:46:32 > 1:46:35

1:46:35 > 1:46:44very good game. Kenny Dalglish might disagree. He will have words

1:46:44 > 1:46:50ready. The goalkeeper has been man of the match in the Cup finals of

1:46:50 > 1:47:00the last two seasons. Both times, Ben Foster. Ones for Manchester

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1:47:47 > 1:47:57United and once for Birmingham. -- the risk of smashing a 40 yard

1:47:57 > 1:48:11

1:48:11 > 1:48:17first half of football. John Mason, in the 19th minute for Cardiff City,

1:48:17 > 1:48:22with a wonderful finish. -- Joe Mason. Tom Heaton managed to keep

1:48:22 > 1:48:28out a Daniel Agger header. On a wonderful weekend for Welsh Sports,

1:48:28 > 1:48:32the dragon is flying high. At half- time in the 2012 Carling Cup final,

1:48:32 > 1:48:36we have an upset on the cards. we have an upset on the cards.

1:48:36 > 1:48:40Cardiff City 1, Liverpool 0. Five teams from outside the top

1:48:40 > 1:48:44flight have won this League Cup over the years. Cardiff City has

1:48:44 > 1:48:48got themselves in a good position. They have not read the script. The

1:48:48 > 1:48:53first 20 minutes was all the trouble. I thought Cardiff gave

1:48:53 > 1:49:01them too much time and space. After that, Cardiff have defended

1:49:02 > 1:49:05magnificently. They have got the goal. 6 and 7s behind the ball but

1:49:05 > 1:49:12apart from a couple of brilliant Downing crosses, Liverpool have had

1:49:12 > 1:49:17a lot of possession. Second best at half-time, but you have got to say

1:49:17 > 1:49:23that Cardiff deserved what they have got. Great start. The Welsh

1:49:23 > 1:49:27weekend goes on and on. Less to a saw a be it carries on. The first

1:49:27 > 1:49:3420 minutes are all for Liverpool. One good attack from Cardiff with a

1:49:34 > 1:49:40great ball from Kenny Miller into Joe Mason. Malky Mackay was brought

1:49:40 > 1:49:44in, and that was a wise move, bringing in Mark Hudson. They have

1:49:44 > 1:49:50had bodies in front, but he has made one or two interceptions. He

1:49:50 > 1:49:56has been top class. I think what has happened, the way Malky Mackay

1:49:56 > 1:50:06has set up his team with his stead and Miller, Miller has been trying

1:50:06 > 1:50:08

1:50:08 > 1:50:13to drop-off. -- Gestede. Normally there would be a whole but that has

1:50:13 > 1:50:17not been happening. I have to agree, they have deserved it. Two players

1:50:17 > 1:50:25in the Liverpool team have to do more. Jordan Henderson and Andy

1:50:25 > 1:50:32Carroll, we need more. Within 10 are 15 minutes, I would bring Bell

1:50:32 > 1:50:38on. Liverpool are starting to faucet. Kenny will be stressed with

1:50:38 > 1:50:43them at half-time, they have to get it done. If Bellamy comes on, they

1:50:43 > 1:50:53have to get it to him. Downing has put two sensational balls into the

1:50:53 > 1:50:54

1:50:54 > 1:50:58box. For this game to become a box. For this game to become a

1:50:58 > 1:51:02spectacle, it needs a Cardiff goal. A Kenny Miller is great in his

1:51:02 > 1:51:10position. He is always looking to come away from the defenders. He

1:51:10 > 1:51:15comes in, and that is a lovely pass. That is a sweet finish. Great play

1:51:15 > 1:51:19but poor defending. It was a poor defender by Skrtel. Jose Enrique

1:51:19 > 1:51:27and Daniel Agger are miles apart. It could have been avoided,

1:51:27 > 1:51:31basically. It was a clever pass. Fantastic. And a great finish and

1:51:31 > 1:51:35tremendous composure. 20 minutes before that, they could not get

1:51:35 > 1:51:45into the game. They could not get a kick of the ball. What a stupid

1:51:45 > 1:51:51game, footballers. Except with that Kenny Miller chance. We sport about

1:51:51 > 1:51:56Kenny Miller before the game. In PE does not want to stand against

1:51:56 > 1:52:00Kenny Miller. He uses his brain and he is clever. Look at and there.

1:52:00 > 1:52:07Standing between the centre halves. He finds the space. That was the

1:52:07 > 1:52:12only decent chance. But that is only decent chance. But that is

1:52:12 > 1:52:16top-class play for. The only thing that lets him down was the finish.

1:52:16 > 1:52:19Liverpool went close early on. we mentioned earlier on about

1:52:19 > 1:52:25Cardiff playing and attacking. They Cardiff playing and attacking. They

1:52:25 > 1:52:32have so many men appear. -- men up here. Between that and the centre

1:52:32 > 1:52:36backs, it is a million miles. Glen Johnson hits the bar. He runs from

1:52:36 > 1:52:39right-back to inside-left. They come back to him and the liver

1:52:39 > 1:52:45bought -- there are Liverpool bodies there. It is a fantastic

1:52:45 > 1:52:51effort and he is unlucky. I do not think we will ever see five Cardiff

1:52:51 > 1:52:58players... Look at best. He wins the ball there. The space between

1:52:58 > 1:53:05that lot and the centre backs is miles. And he got punished for it.

1:53:05 > 1:53:09Terrific effort. You watch that, and you're thinking, trouble. The

1:53:09 > 1:53:13way the game panned out in the first 20 minutes, we were sitting

1:53:13 > 1:53:19here saying that Liverpool have too much time and space and Cardiff are

1:53:19 > 1:53:24much time and space and Cardiff are not getting in their faces. Maybe

1:53:24 > 1:53:29marquee will have to sacrifice a striker. There is too much space in

1:53:29 > 1:53:38midfield for Liverpool. I expected it stays 1-0, he may sacrifice one

1:53:38 > 1:53:41later. -- I expect if it stays. A possible and ball from Taylor.

1:53:41 > 1:53:50for me. I think Mark Clatternberg for me. I think Mark Clatternberg

1:53:50 > 1:53:56got it absolutely right. I am not sure. Not for me. It just clips him.

1:53:56 > 1:54:03Are you sure? I do not think that is a penalty. I think the referee

1:54:03 > 1:54:08got it right. It is movement, isn't it? There is movement with his left

1:54:08 > 1:54:12hand. It doesn't matter what we hand. It doesn't matter what we

1:54:12 > 1:54:16think. It is of the referee thinks. That is a good point. Liverpool had

1:54:16 > 1:54:24their chances early on. Overall, their chances early on. Overall,

1:54:24 > 1:54:34they have had chances. Chris mentioned it. Jordan Henderson

1:54:34 > 1:54:35

1:54:35 > 1:54:45picks it up. It is too easy. No pressure on the ball. Into Suarez

1:54:45 > 1:54:45

1:54:45 > 1:54:50and Andy Carroll comes in... He has to do better here. We mentioned the

1:54:50 > 1:54:54crosses. This is what Downing is capable of. That is a great ball.

1:54:54 > 1:55:04Andy Carroll is expecting the ball to be in the air. He has to attack

1:55:04 > 1:55:10

1:55:10 > 1:55:17that ball. Downing his inside out. That is a poor finish. You want

1:55:17 > 1:55:25Steven Gerrard, rather than Anderson. -- Henderson. That tackle

1:55:25 > 1:55:30from Mark Hudson was fantastic. A fantastic challenge. They have had

1:55:30 > 1:55:34their fair share of chances but in fairness, Cardiff have defended

1:55:34 > 1:55:39really well. Plenty to do in the really well. Plenty to do in the

1:55:39 > 1:55:49second half. Not long now until you have to do your bit for Sport

1:55:49 > 1:56:19

1:56:19 > 1:56:22There was some important games played in the Barclay's Premier

1:56:22 > 1:56:25League today. An extraordinary League today. An extraordinary

1:56:25 > 1:56:30north London derby watched by Jonathan Pearce.

1:56:30 > 1:56:34Another North London epic on Oscar's weekend. Lily sat astride

1:56:34 > 1:56:38an unopposed into the middle. He put Tottenham ahead after four

1:56:38 > 1:56:43minutes. Arsenal seemed on the way to successive home league defeats

1:56:43 > 1:56:51when Adebayor scored half an hour later after Szczesny was judged to

1:56:51 > 1:56:56have brought down Gareth Bale. Two minutes later, van Persie curled in

1:56:56 > 1:57:01a delicious equaliser from 20 yards. Six minutes after the break, the

1:57:01 > 1:57:09comeback was complete. Rosicky in one of his best displayed started a

1:57:09 > 1:57:15counter-attack. He finished existing clay. Theo Walcott tucked

1:57:15 > 1:57:17in two inside three minutes to put them 5-2 up. Spurs' misery was

1:57:17 > 1:57:21completed once Bob Parker was sent off.

1:57:21 > 1:57:25off. Also in action, Norwich and

1:57:25 > 1:57:30Also in action, Norwich and Manchester United.

1:57:30 > 1:57:35On his 900th Manchester United appearance, Ryan Giggs scored the

1:57:35 > 1:57:42crucial winning goal. That other veteran, Paul Scholes, had put the

1:57:42 > 1:57:45champions in front in the 7th minute. Two brilliant saves kept

1:57:46 > 1:57:51out Antony Pilkington. It was the Norwich captain who equalised eight

1:57:51 > 1:57:55minutes from time with an explosive drive. United dug deep and after

1:57:55 > 1:58:04Welbeck missed a glorious chance, Ryan Giggs converted young's

1:58:04 > 1:58:06inviting centre for. You could not inviting centre for. You could not

1:58:06 > 1:58:09write that script. I think this script has been written off and

1:58:09 > 1:58:13about Manchester United. Another game played in the

1:58:13 > 1:58:18Barclay's Premier League, and it has just the second finished. Stoke

1:58:18 > 1:58:28City have beaten Swansea by 2-0. Goals from Peter Crouch and Oxon.

1:58:28 > 1:58:34

1:58:34 > 1:58:42We will have a full report at the seven points and are only just

1:58:42 > 1:58:49clear of North London neighbours Arsenal. Stoke climb two places

1:58:49 > 1:58:59after victory. They beat Swansea today. Blackburn and we can end the

1:58:59 > 1:59:05

1:59:05 > 1:59:12week in the relegation places. -- There's been a big game in League 1

1:59:13 > 1:59:17today. A game of few chances between the two promotion chasers.

1:59:17 > 1:59:22That was until Lewis Buxton which put in this cross with 17 minutes

1:59:22 > 1:59:32remaining and Chris O'Grady headed in his 7th league goal of the

1:59:32 > 2:00:09

2:00:09 > 2:00:19And we have some decent live football coming up on BBC

2:00:19 > 2:00:59

2:00:59 > 2:01:04television! With four games in the We have got a perfectly balanced

2:01:04 > 2:01:14game here in the Carling Cup Final. What about that Derby, it was

2:01:14 > 2:01:21

2:01:21 > 2:01:31You were thinking if got none would win this, they would come back. It

2:01:31 > 2:01:45

2:01:45 > 2:01:51was the most amazing game we have Let's look ahead now to the second

2:01:51 > 2:01:56half here. Kenny is the man under pressure now. You know him really

2:01:56 > 2:01:59well. What will he be like in the dressing room? I think if he

2:02:00 > 2:02:03doesn't make a change already he will give it 10, 15 minutes and

2:02:03 > 2:02:08then bring on Craig Bellamy for Andy Carroll or Henderson, who I

2:02:08 > 2:02:16said I believe have to give more to the team. More than they gave in

2:02:16 > 2:02:19the first half. No surprised me there. I would be surprised if it

2:02:19 > 2:02:24stays exactly the same. Is there the sense that he can make his

2:02:24 > 2:02:29players believe they can do this? Yes. Somehow keep your composure.

2:02:29 > 2:02:34The fans will be getting more and more excited. Just keep your

2:02:34 > 2:02:44composure of know what you're doing. Melt the attack, by all means, but

2:02:44 > 2:02:47just keep your composure. -- amount to the attack. You'll get put under

2:02:48 > 2:02:53massive, massive pressure by Gerrard is the man. He has got to

2:02:53 > 2:03:03galvanise and lead the team boss Bob Kenny will be stressed. They

2:03:03 > 2:03:07

2:03:07 > 2:03:13have to put Cardiff under more We have seen them whip in

2:03:13 > 2:03:20tremendous balls. Kenny is having a word with the officials. He is

2:03:20 > 2:03:30smiling now but he might be pointing out that ball, that

2:03:30 > 2:03:32

2:03:32 > 2:03:38will be difficult because if they do what Allen has just said and

2:03:38 > 2:03:43keep Cardiff running about and keep the ball, 30 minutes to go, Bellamy

2:03:43 > 2:03:50has got that pays better than anybody. That is where they could

2:03:50 > 2:03:56come unstuck. But it remains to be seen. I am pretty sure that you

2:03:56 > 2:04:00could see them sacrifice a centre- forward. Or put another midfield on.

2:04:00 > 2:04:04But I suspect we will see more chances in this hot. Liverpool will

2:04:04 > 2:04:09have lots and lots of possession and it is just how they use it that

2:04:09 > 2:04:14will determine whether they win this game or not. This could be the

2:04:14 > 2:04:19most important 45 minutes in the lives of those Cardiff players. The

2:04:19 > 2:04:27chance to win some silverware. We shall seek. Back to our

2:04:27 > 2:04:32commentators. Thank you, Gary. Liverpool's player

2:04:32 > 2:04:36has just been made to wait. And they would like to win a major

2:04:36 > 2:04:42trophy again. At the moment, they are going to have to work really

2:04:42 > 2:04:52hard to turn this around because it is Cardiff's to news at the moment,

2:04:52 > 2:05:06

2:05:06 > 2:05:16thanks to this young man. -- Wembley during the half-time break!

2:05:16 > 2:05:17

2:05:17 > 2:05:26You can't believe anybody wants to listen to that! Pardon? Sorry?!

2:05:26 > 2:05:30we go. If that is ringing in our ears, I am sure the words of Kenny

2:05:30 > 2:05:40Dalglish of bringing in the ears of the Liverpool players. No changes

2:05:40 > 2:06:10

2:06:10 > 2:06:20things don't improve. -- know what having. Scored in his last

2:06:20 > 2:06:27

2:06:27 > 2:06:37appearance, 23rd January, a 3-2 win advantage should have been played,

2:06:37 > 2:06:41and with good reason. Yes. Unless the referee blew the whistle a bit

2:06:41 > 2:06:50earlier and we didn't hear it. Words being exchanged between the

2:06:50 > 2:07:00Liverpool manager and the officials in the technical area. Things are

2:07:00 > 2:07:05

2:07:05 > 2:07:09not going for that young man at the Dalglish on the edge of that

2:07:09 > 2:07:14technical area. What will he have said at half-time? You know him

2:07:14 > 2:07:22well enough. Just a key player in, keep the ball moving. I do think

2:07:22 > 2:07:32they have got to get a couple of people more forward. -- just to

2:07:32 > 2:07:46

2:07:46 > 2:07:56know that Cardiff have got that tackle. Cardiff City, 22 times the

2:07:56 > 2:07:56

2:07:56 > 2:08:06Welsh Cup winners. Just one FA Cup win. Cardiff are putting the

2:08:06 > 2:08:29

2:08:29 > 2:08:39lovely bit of approach from Cardiff. Excellent, isn't it? This is the

2:08:39 > 2:08:44ball here... It all opened up. We've seen two of those from Don

2:08:44 > 2:08:51Cowie now. I think he can lay claim to be the greatest ever footballer

2:08:51 > 2:09:01to come from the Highlands. Ross Jack was another. You need to get

2:09:01 > 2:09:01

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2:10:00 > 2:10:10not pick it up, but there is hardly any reaction from Carroll when the

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2:11:32 > 2:11:38ball get picked up. Just on the equalising goal. And a huge

2:11:39 > 2:11:48deflection on that Liverpool corner. He is claiming handball, Suarez. He

2:11:49 > 2:12:12

2:12:12 > 2:12:22that will be the first yellow card of the match. Unfortunately, Jordan

2:12:22 > 2:12:34

2:12:34 > 2:12:44Henderson, he has had a poor day knee. I go back to your comment -

2:12:44 > 2:13:00

2:13:00 > 2:13:10you have got arms, so where are you Liverpool will make a change. They

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2:14:12 > 2:14:21in anything like that, that little clatter there. -- Henderson cannot

2:14:22 > 2:14:35

2:14:35 > 2:14:41great pace but Mason is through the middle. And now back from

2:14:41 > 2:14:51Whittingham. A pretty good tackle in the end from Agger and Cardiff

2:14:51 > 2:14:54

2:14:54 > 2:15:04are to throw it. Still shaking his head at his own mistake. Three

2:15:04 > 2:15:04

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2:15:58 > 2:16:08Liverpool players are going through it out... We're just going to look

2:16:08 > 2:16:30

2:16:30 > 2:16:39back at the possible handball too Blanc. -- Suarez just held on a

2:16:39 > 2:16:49little too long. Yes. The timing of those tackles from the Cardiff

2:16:49 > 2:17:26

2:17:26 > 2:17:32to those balls, the Liverpool That was lazy more than anything.

2:17:32 > 2:17:41And now we think we have a change we expected. Craig Bellamy coming

2:17:41 > 2:17:47on and Jordan Henderson, having been booked, going off. Now it is

2:17:47 > 2:17:57happening. It is great when you come on and you are cheered by both

2:17:57 > 2:18:14

2:18:14 > 2:18:24sets of supporters. Cardiff side between the Borough boys.

2:18:24 > 2:18:50

2:18:50 > 2:19:00shimmy to divert the attention of try and knocking it into the path

2:19:00 > 2:19:36

2:19:36 > 2:19:46of Miller but couldn't get to the Liverpool have had eight now. --

2:19:46 > 2:19:55

2:19:55 > 2:20:01Skrtel with the equaliser! Liverpool are level! Anfield South

2:20:01 > 2:20:06has erupted! That is the first time in this game Cardiff have failed to

2:20:07 > 2:20:16clear their lines. They have been so good. Talk about defending

2:20:17 > 2:20:21

2:20:21 > 2:20:28decisively. Suarez was unlucky. He only found the woodwork. But Skrtel

2:20:28 > 2:20:33reacted like a striker of. scored last week, did he not?

2:20:33 > 2:20:43Two in two for Skrtel. And that the other end, Cardiff breaking

2:20:43 > 2:20:58

2:20:58 > 2:21:08forward... Just having a look back on the touchline. Very frustrated

2:21:08 > 2:21:09

2:21:09 > 2:21:19at seeing Liverpool equaliser. is it. Certainly not a penalty,

2:21:19 > 2:21:44

2:21:44 > 2:21:53now. You can seem from Skrtel's reaction, no thought of celebration.

2:21:53 > 2:22:03-- you can see. Just back to the hard work. This end is the noisiest

2:22:03 > 2:22:05

2:22:05 > 2:22:12it has been all there! I wonder if he decided to change his team to

2:22:12 > 2:22:22change the game a little bit. Dalglish wants anything but calm

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2:23:02 > 2:23:11from his team now. They are feeding of scoring goals, but two in two

2:23:11 > 2:23:21weekends. Yes. And had a really good season as well. Quite a bit of

2:23:21 > 2:23:22

2:23:22 > 2:23:32injury in the early days. And Jamie Carragher can't get into the team

2:23:32 > 2:23:52

2:23:52 > 2:24:02pass the ball. And that is going nowhere. No. Cardiff need to go

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2:24:56 > 2:25:06through a spell of "just keep the from the start. Both teams for a

2:25:06 > 2:25:41

2:25:41 > 2:25:51committed to attacking. -- fully And Bellamy claims that Heaton put

2:25:51 > 2:25:55

2:25:55 > 2:26:05that through for the corner. He did get a touch on it. The referee's

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2:27:20 > 2:27:30assistant gave it. But after some fully expecting him to shift that

2:27:30 > 2:27:30

2:27:30 > 2:27:40from his left foot. Yes. You try to run across your marker. A big

2:27:40 > 2:28:01

2:28:01 > 2:28:11moment. They are chasing around for at the moment. Taylor's just heard

2:28:11 > 2:28:28

2:28:28 > 2:28:38himself in blocking that. He will for a goal kick. I think the

2:28:38 > 2:28:42

2:28:42 > 2:28:52referee is right. He asked, did it come off me? It didn't tell us. But

2:28:52 > 2:29:06

2:29:06 > 2:29:12competition. I suspect we knew they would score at some point today.

2:29:12 > 2:29:19Who scores next is so important. Yeah. Cardiff and their defending

2:29:19 > 2:29:29are excellent. This was Joe Mason's best ball so far. Needed some sort

2:29:29 > 2:29:58

2:29:58 > 2:30:08of heavy deflection on it to find a deep, isn't he? We could see

2:30:08 > 2:30:14

2:30:14 > 2:30:21are a real threat down the right. They were down the left in the

2:30:21 > 2:30:28first but now down the right. ball has been played out by Charlie

2:30:28 > 2:30:35Adam. And that is because Gunnarsson has a problem. Was he

2:30:36 > 2:30:45hit on the ear? Mackay would have shrub that sort of thing off in his

2:30:45 > 2:30:54playing days! -- would have shrugged. Based at Norwich and at

2:30:54 > 2:31:01Carrow Road. That was Gerrard smashing into Gunnarsson. He was

2:31:01 > 2:31:09blocking him, no doubt about that. Even so... And Gerrard is raise the

2:31:09 > 2:31:14arms. Self-defence? I think he is a bit lucky. No real Cardiff

2:31:14 > 2:31:24complains apart from Aron Gunnarsson. Look at that. It was a

2:31:24 > 2:31:47

2:31:47 > 2:31:57deliberate block from Gunnarsson. three seasons and a Road, Norwich,

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2:32:45 > 2:32:55a lull in the action. The it is just that the back injury. -- it is

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2:33:39 > 2:33:49figure through, 89,041 spectators Instinctive, it came at him in a

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2:34:57 > 2:35:01important says, albeit from efforts Wales are still enjoying their

2:35:01 > 2:35:06afternoon, at their 4th trip for quite a few of them. Still in good

2:35:06 > 2:35:16voice, as are those in red. Thereafter there has got a lot

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2:36:10 > 2:36:16better in the last 20 minutes. -- It is Hudson. A -- some body is

2:36:17 > 2:36:21down. Jose Enrique Ponce dead. There is some jeering from the

2:36:21 > 2:36:27Liverpool supporters, but I think it is right -- Jose Enrique put it

2:36:27 > 2:36:37out. They would wanted the other way. It is the way that thankfully

2:36:37 > 2:36:45

2:36:45 > 2:36:49the game is played at 90% of the distance. He has played -- missed

2:36:49 > 2:36:55six games and performed really solidly. He has done really well.

2:36:55 > 2:37:02And in the Cup final, there is an added tension. Change of plan.

2:37:02 > 2:37:08Malky Mackay is desperately trying to get the message to Kenny Miller.

2:37:08 > 2:37:13There is the liveable equalising goal. -- Liverpool. Suarez thought

2:37:13 > 2:37:23he had got it. He reacted really quickly, Skrtel. Andy Carroll

2:37:23 > 2:37:23

2:37:23 > 2:37:33played a part as well, used its celebrating the, barging Charlie

2:37:33 > 2:38:00

2:38:00 > 2:38:04came in to try and pick up the rebound. What for? Downing has

2:38:04 > 2:38:12thought about it once or twice, this time he has had a go. A decent

2:38:12 > 2:38:22strike and a good save. I guess he was active as he chased it. Off-

2:38:22 > 2:38:29

2:38:29 > 2:38:34course you are active. Arguably. one goalkeeper in sparkling form in

2:38:34 > 2:38:44the Carling Cup final and Tom Heaton his sparkling this year. --

2:38:44 > 2:39:17

2:39:17 > 2:39:25Or did he slip? Or was that both. That is how Mark Clattenburg saw

2:39:25 > 2:39:35red. There is a brush-off hands. Shall We Dance? -- brush of hands.

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2:40:39 > 2:40:44A bit of both. But a card a free down straight away. How does Mark

2:40:45 > 2:40:54Clattenburg interpret this? Accidental from Turner? It must

2:40:55 > 2:40:57

2:40:57 > 2:41:07have been. A just feeling for it. The way that Agger went down

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2:42:02 > 2:42:12players and I thought he would slotted into someone on the edge of

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2:42:53 > 2:43:03warm ups. He could still -- soon be Gunnarsson long throw for Liverpool

2:43:03 > 2:43:10

2:43:10 > 2:43:16to defend. No, it's not. Taken By really clever bit of football,

2:43:16 > 2:43:21it will lolled Liverpool into thinking it was the long throw.

2:43:21 > 2:43:31Then turn around the back. He just didn't make contact. -- Ben Turner

2:43:31 > 2:43:37

2:43:37 > 2:43:47around the back. It should have been a goal. It has got the Cardiff

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2:44:27 > 2:44:33fans are on their feet and singing times and the Carling Cup this

2:44:33 > 2:44:43season. Twice, they have gone to penalties. -- in that the Carling

2:44:43 > 2:45:18

2:45:18 > 2:45:20goalkeeper. Cardiff were struggling to get back there. The manager was

2:45:20 > 2:45:30frantically waving them back to frantically waving them back to

2:45:30 > 2:45:58

2:45:58 > 2:46:08frantically waving them back to Turner. It started reaching Suarez.

2:46:08 > 2:46:12

2:46:12 > 2:46:18A key just threw himself in the way getting in the way of everything

2:46:18 > 2:46:28for Cardiff. Liverpool forced to make a change -- change thanks to

2:46:28 > 2:46:41

2:46:41 > 2:46:51injury. Agger coming off and on organising the minute he set foot

2:46:51 > 2:46:54

2:46:54 > 2:47:04on the pitch. Liverpool's hour. If they are not going to get

2:47:04 > 2:47:24

2:47:24 > 2:47:34a win now, that is. I think we all Apologies to those who are pretty

2:47:34 > 2:47:49

2:47:49 > 2:47:53win it than that? Liverpool are arguing amongst themselves. They've

2:47:53 > 2:48:03been Charlie Adam left him. It was exactly the player they wanted it

2:48:03 > 2:48:34

2:48:34 > 2:48:44to come to. Great run by Kenny You would absolutely back him to

2:48:44 > 2:49:04

2:49:04 > 2:49:14Joe Mason did score in the first hard to say who has been better,

2:49:14 > 2:49:46

2:49:46 > 2:49:52Gestede. Then holding on to the ball, eating up a bit of time to

2:49:52 > 2:50:02make sure Cardiff can't break. Keystone cops, there. That is a

2:50:02 > 2:50:26

2:50:26 > 2:50:36good touch from the raft. -- be at least Macro 4 minutes. --

2:50:36 > 2:50:39

2:50:39 > 2:50:49he tried for a really special finish. Bellamy had made a late run

2:50:49 > 2:50:49

2:50:49 > 2:51:36Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

2:51:37 > 2:51:46and he could have spread the ball man to finally kill off the hopes

2:51:47 > 2:52:10

2:52:11 > 2:52:19Kenny Miller chance will turn out to be. That was the moment for

2:52:19 > 2:52:29Cardiff to win it. Malky Mackay is well used to giving his team at

2:52:29 > 2:52:29

2:52:29 > 2:52:39talk about going another half-an- game and not the occasion and they

2:52:39 > 2:52:43

2:52:43 > 2:52:47have certainly done that. But they in the Premier League. The Premier

2:52:47 > 2:52:52League team have had more of the ball and more effort on goal, but

2:52:52 > 2:53:02Cardiff have given everything to this final as well. A final that

2:53:02 > 2:53:16

2:53:16 > 2:53:26looks as though it will go another reaction. You can smile and look

2:53:26 > 2:53:30

2:53:30 > 2:53:40incredulous at the same time. it right? There is your answer. Yes.

2:53:40 > 2:53:40

2:53:40 > 2:54:20Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

2:54:20 > 2:54:28Now we look at Mark Clattenburg. Both sets of supporters are in full

2:54:28 > 2:54:33voice. They are going to have Duc carry on singing. They will have to

2:54:34 > 2:54:38summon up energy levels as well. That is it, full-time in the 2012

2:54:38 > 2:54:41Carling Cup final, which is going the distance. Joe Mason in the

2:54:41 > 2:54:47first half of for Cardiff, Martin Skrtel with the early second-half

2:54:47 > 2:54:51equaliser. But neither team able to find a win as yet. Another 30

2:54:51 > 2:54:55minutes of extra time to come. Time for Malky Mackay and Kenny Dalglish

2:54:55 > 2:55:05to weave their words of magic. I hope you enjoy the extra time, we

2:55:05 > 2:55:11

2:55:11 > 2:55:14will. Full-time, 1-1. GARY LINEKER: Great stuff,

2:55:14 > 2:55:19enthralling, and the Carling Cup are still up for grabs. Give us

2:55:19 > 2:55:24another 30 minutes and it could even be decided by the penalty

2:55:24 > 2:55:31shoot-out. Gutsy stuff. Unbelievable, a great game to watch.

2:55:31 > 2:55:36Only one word to describe the Cardiff performance, grit. When you

2:55:36 > 2:55:40think about determination and character, lots of quality, but

2:55:40 > 2:55:44playing their heart out when they are basically on their knees. They

2:55:44 > 2:55:48are a credit to Malky Mackay. Kenny Miller could have won it in the end,

2:55:48 > 2:55:51and in all honesty, the last 20 minutes, when you thought because

2:55:51 > 2:55:57Liverpool had so much possession that Cardiff would be struggling,

2:55:57 > 2:55:59they were every bit as good as Liverpool. Down on their backs,

2:55:59 > 2:56:05getting amass large, it is important to keep concentration and

2:56:05 > 2:56:11try and get some energy levels -- a mass large. I felt that the longer

2:56:11 > 2:56:15the second half went on and it was still 1-0 and Cardiff hadn't got

2:56:15 > 2:56:20the second, they were running a lot without the ball. When Liverpool

2:56:20 > 2:56:25equalised, you thought they would win it. We saw Kenny Miller follow-

2:56:25 > 2:56:32up, we thought he had done his hamstring and he had got a bit of

2:56:32 > 2:56:37treatment and he was a fine! The Cardiff players had to stay in the

2:56:37 > 2:56:45game at times but it has been an enthralling final. Just two goals,

2:56:45 > 2:56:50one for each side. This was the card of one. It was great play from

2:56:50 > 2:56:54Kenny Miller in a whole. One-touch, left but, pass with the right foot.

2:56:54 > 2:57:00The wake of the pass was brilliant to Mason and an excellent finish. -

2:57:00 > 2:57:07- the weight. Kenny Miller has a look around and says where

2:57:07 > 2:57:13everybody is and picks out the past. -- sees where. And this, Skrtel

2:57:13 > 2:57:22scores the sand Hudson has been magnificent, just look at him here.

2:57:23 > 2:57:30He lets him go, and it is in the back of the neck. Skrtel is making

2:57:30 > 2:57:35up for that his poor positioning on the Cardiff goal. We -- for his.

2:57:35 > 2:57:39When we thought a liveable by just keep calm and push on, they did

2:57:39 > 2:57:43have one or two chances -- when we thought Liverpool would just kick

2:57:43 > 2:57:48on and push on, they did have one or two chances but not as many as

2:57:48 > 2:57:53we thought. This is Skrtel again, at a little volley. This was a

2:57:53 > 2:57:57great chance. A great ball in, Ben Turner at the back post. If that

2:57:57 > 2:58:06was a great chance, this one was even better. For me minutes from

2:58:06 > 2:58:11time. Look who is trying to tackle him, Andy Carroll. You have got to

2:58:11 > 2:58:16score that, it is a fantastic chance. How do you see it going? It

2:58:16 > 2:58:19is so tough to call. It will be harsh on whoever. Quality wise,

2:58:19 > 2:58:24there has been no different and that is the biggest compliment I

2:58:24 > 2:58:28can play Cardiff. There has been nothing between the teams. What

2:58:28 > 2:58:35will go in Cardiff's favour is they have been here two or three times

2:58:35 > 2:58:40this season in the Cup. Four times. Twice two penalties. I think

2:58:40 > 2:58:47liveable will win, and I want them to win, but I don't want Cardiff to

2:58:47 > 2:58:53lose -- I think Liverpool will win. Howdy work that one out? -- How do

2:58:53 > 2:59:00you work that one out? They had done so much. And he has played

2:59:00 > 2:59:05brilliantly. They have given it a lot. Extra time is ready for Guy

2:59:05 > 2:59:10and mark. The bad news is, somebody is going

2:59:10 > 2:59:14to lose at the end of this, either in the next half-an-hour or on

2:59:14 > 2:59:18penalties. You may have seen the graphic coming up to tell you about

2:59:18 > 2:59:24the Cardiff changed for extra time. It is one for the headline writers,

2:59:24 > 2:59:34Joe Mason has gone off and on has come Fill kiss. Can he see it for

2:59:34 > 2:59:48

2:59:48 > 2:59:53on a season-long loan. They will be glued to this there, as in so many

2:59:53 > 2:59:57countries around the world. What an advert for English football, a

2:59:57 > 3:00:01packed Wembley, great noise, a cracking game of football and a

3:00:01 > 3:00:11team from the second Dear holding their own against a team from the

3:00:11 > 3:00:23

3:00:23 > 3:00:33That looked as though it might creep in and then... It was going

3:00:33 > 3:00:33

3:00:33 > 3:00:43wide but he couldn't take that chance. It was and he couldn't.

3:00:43 > 3:01:05

3:01:05 > 3:01:15Craig Bellamy has just acknowledged cracking start! Brilliant Cardiff

3:01:15 > 3:01:21

3:01:21 > 3:01:31City defending. All in the right area and it is claimed there was a

3:01:31 > 3:01:33

3:01:33 > 3:01:43touch. And there was. They are stretching the game all the time

3:01:43 > 3:02:14

3:02:14 > 3:02:18target like that the whole Dave. -- played the full might himself.

3:02:18 > 3:02:27Calling for big breaths and extra effort from his players. The 5th

3:02:27 > 3:02:33time they have gone into extra time in this competition this season.

3:02:33 > 3:02:42Huddersfield, Leicester, Oxford, way back when in the first round.

3:02:42 > 3:02:52And Cardiff starting from scratch. And then Crystal Palace in the

3:02:52 > 3:03:17

3:03:17 > 3:03:27spite of that cramp at earlier on. Yes. He has had some treatment and

3:03:27 > 3:03:27

3:03:27 > 3:04:07Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

3:04:07 > 3:04:17some liquid dye, so he should be OK. up. He was looking for just the

3:04:17 > 3:04:37

3:04:37 > 3:04:45right red-show did player -- distance of the kick. And Enrique

3:04:45 > 3:04:55ran into the challenge of Kiss. Enrique somehow managed to keep

3:04:55 > 3:04:55

3:04:55 > 3:06:46Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

3:06:46 > 3:06:56it against Jose Enrico. -- Jose clubs. Those Marigolds have done

3:06:56 > 3:07:31

3:07:31 > 3:07:40well! They certainly have! card for Kiss. Yes. It told him his

3:07:40 > 3:07:50future! Well and truly collared. And I don't think he was after a

3:07:50 > 3:07:52

3:07:52 > 3:07:58kiss, either! Hudson has struggled and I think his time has come. He

3:07:58 > 3:08:06has been outstanding in his first match to lead the team. Coming on

3:08:06 > 3:08:15in his plays will be Anthony Gerrard. An outstanding performance

3:08:15 > 3:08:19by him, when you consider how long he played... There widow. Steve's

3:08:19 > 3:08:22cousin. Of course, they were heavily featured in the build-up to

3:08:22 > 3:08:32the game and remember playing football in their grandmother's

3:08:32 > 3:08:37

3:08:37 > 3:08:47back garden together. Apparently with the family, a hundred tickets

3:08:47 > 3:08:57

3:08:57 > 3:09:07spread between them around the very much a Liverpool fan growing

3:09:07 > 3:09:35

3:09:35 > 3:09:45hit one and he did, but not particularly accurate leave. But

3:09:45 > 3:09:45

3:09:45 > 3:09:52that said, is this a better game for him? Absolutely, yes. He did a

3:09:52 > 3:09:56runner as a version a couple of years ago against Aston Villa. But

3:09:56 > 3:10:06he says he doesn't count that because he didn't get onto the

3:10:06 > 3:10:06

3:10:06 > 3:10:52Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

3:10:52 > 3:11:02the yellow-card that Filip Kiss received. Never quite developed

3:11:02 > 3:11:38

3:11:38 > 3:11:44Not surprising. Things have slowed They were going to put Kuyt on but

3:11:44 > 3:11:54I think they will delay that for this corner. Not exactly packing

3:11:54 > 3:11:57

3:11:57 > 3:12:02the box, Liverpool, here. Didn't miss by much. I think that might

3:12:02 > 3:12:12have been his best header of the game. And probably one of the more

3:12:12 > 3:12:23

3:12:23 > 3:12:31difficult. And his last touch as scoring all match, Andy Carroll.

3:12:31 > 3:12:39Not happening at Wembley for Liverpool today. Maybe it can with

3:12:40 > 3:12:49Kuyt. He would include only fitting if he got his first winners' Medal

3:12:50 > 3:12:50

3:12:50 > 3:13:52Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

3:13:52 > 3:13:55of the club with a goal scored by the blink of an eye. Yeah. Very

3:13:55 > 3:14:01difficult and a great bit of play there, when he runs across you,

3:14:01 > 3:14:07Bellamy. He comes back and you know where he is going. It is so

3:14:07 > 3:14:17difficult to get close enough to him. Patient as well, isn't he?

3:14:17 > 3:14:17

3:14:17 > 3:15:27Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

3:15:27 > 3:15:34Just waiting for the gap to finally many have gone wide from Liverpool.

3:15:34 > 3:15:44Yeah. We are nearly finishing the game as we started it, with Glen

3:15:44 > 3:15:45

3:15:45 > 3:15:55Johnson firing into that Cardiff goal. Our first period of extra-

3:15:55 > 3:15:58

3:15:58 > 3:16:08in the first 15 minutes. Another 15 minutes to decide the 2012 Carling

3:16:08 > 3:16:14Cup Final... Or it will be decided on penalties. Malky Mackay is out

3:16:14 > 3:16:19to read the script to his team. I was going to ask you, Mark, where

3:16:19 > 3:16:29used all this going, but it is impossible to call? Yes. There you

3:16:29 > 3:16:39go! You have called it! I should say, there is a message being read

3:16:39 > 3:16:41

3:16:41 > 3:16:46out on the Wembley announcer, and trains are now apparently back up

3:16:46 > 3:16:54and running from Euston to Liverpool Lime Street. So they can

3:16:54 > 3:17:04get home OK! Will they be going home in celebratory mood? And they

3:17:04 > 3:17:08don't run that laid on a Sunday. -- that late. Things seemed relaxed in

3:17:08 > 3:17:16the Liverpool camp. I think they are thinking, just keep playing,

3:17:16 > 3:17:24just keep playing. Cue the Liverpool anthem. They were happy

3:17:24 > 3:17:33with that news about the trains! 15 minutes. 15 more huge minutes for

3:17:33 > 3:17:43Cardiff City and Liverpool. Or we are going to a penalty shoot-out.

3:17:43 > 3:18:20

3:18:20 > 3:18:30Nearly always an outstanding chance, going to play for the next 15? Get

3:18:30 > 3:18:30

3:18:30 > 3:18:39it out, get it away? I can only assume he picked up an injury there

3:18:39 > 3:18:48because he is coming off. Nice for Darcy Blake to get on. A Welsh

3:18:48 > 3:18:58player through and through. Grew up with and his close friends with

3:18:58 > 3:18:58

3:18:58 > 3:19:47Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

3:19:47 > 3:19:57Wales' boxing hero from last night. was back-pedalling, and that was

3:19:57 > 3:20:34

3:20:34 > 3:20:41the problem. Just going backwards Cup for Liverpool? The man who's

3:20:41 > 3:20:50waited so long to win this battle! He may just have grabbed one for

3:20:50 > 3:20:55himself! The thing is, you're watching fresh legs. Look at the

3:20:55 > 3:21:03Cardiff players struggling to get anywhere near him. And to react so,

3:21:03 > 3:21:13so quickly. -- and he reacts. No one can get near him. No chance to

3:21:13 > 3:21:14

3:21:14 > 3:21:23react to that what so ever, Tom Heaton. Heaton beaten by the pace

3:21:23 > 3:21:30of Kuyt. Will it be the winner? Andy Carroll must be shaking those

3:21:30 > 3:21:35long locks. Tried hard with no reward. His team made grabbed the

3:21:35 > 3:21:45glory. Let's see what Cardiff had got left now. They have got to go

3:21:45 > 3:22:18

3:22:18 > 3:22:28one for Liverpool, and yet, he may be the one to bring the silverware

3:22:28 > 3:22:44

3:22:44 > 3:22:54the most enthusiastic of young fans. Now he is trying hard to stay in

3:22:54 > 3:23:17

3:23:17 > 3:23:25is the big Tweeter. He is all smiles, Andy Carroll. He would be.

3:23:25 > 3:23:32Made the move from Tyneside to Merseyside. A bit harsh on

3:23:33 > 3:23:39Newcastle. This is here and now and Liverpool are less than 10 minutes

3:23:39 > 3:23:44away from winning the 2012 Carling Cup. Cardiff will keep going, no

3:23:44 > 3:23:54doubt about that. Difficult for some of the players to keep going,

3:23:54 > 3:24:23

3:24:23 > 3:24:29with cramp. Happening again, by the City's ball. Gunnarsson might be

3:24:29 > 3:24:39bedevilled by cramp at the moment but his arms are still going!

3:24:39 > 3:24:59

3:25:00 > 3:25:09moved. Gunnarsson doesn't want it. And Gunnarsson again! And his team

3:25:10 > 3:25:41

3:25:41 > 3:25:51away from the Cardiff players in front of your eyes. And the fans

3:25:51 > 3:25:51

3:25:51 > 3:26:37Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

3:26:37 > 3:26:44the landing? They have used all three substitutes. He just wants a

3:26:44 > 3:26:54bit of TLC, first and foremost. You can just see him bursting past

3:26:54 > 3:26:56

3:26:56 > 3:27:01them. They just can't keep up. is looking very likely to turn out

3:27:01 > 3:27:06to be a famous goal in the history of Liverpool Football Club. Is that

3:27:06 > 3:27:16the springboard goal? And that is the reaction of Andrew Taylor. That

3:27:16 > 3:27:19

3:27:19 > 3:27:24is the reaction of one delighted Kenny Dalglish! He will be 61 next

3:27:24 > 3:27:29Sunday, world Kenny Dalglish. If he hadn't got that call 14 months ago

3:27:29 > 3:27:36to come back to Liverpool, I wonder what you would have been doing.

3:27:36 > 3:27:42on a cruise ship in Bahrain when he got the shout. As it is, you will

3:27:42 > 3:27:52be back for a Premier League game against Arsenal next weekend.

3:27:52 > 3:28:15

3:28:15 > 3:28:25thing is, with this game, it has many red show ats in the way now.

3:28:25 > 3:28:43

3:28:43 > 3:28:51They can't see through. -- red has been caused a problem. -- of a

3:28:51 > 3:29:01touch. He was slow to react, let the ball bounce. Could it be? At

3:29:01 > 3:29:11Cardiff's first corner of the match? Four minutes of extra time

3:29:11 > 3:29:43

3:29:43 > 3:29:50in one of his legs. -- I think he's is another Cardiff corner. They

3:29:50 > 3:29:57can't say they're not having a go. Cardiff, giving it everything. And

3:29:57 > 3:30:01off the line! And behind for another corner! We have just big

3:30:01 > 3:30:11DUP the goalkeeper. I think he has made a mistake, there, though,

3:30:11 > 3:30:11

3:30:11 > 3:30:21hasn't he? Here becomes again! It is in! Cardiff are level! Turner

3:30:21 > 3:30:34

3:30:34 > 3:30:44witnessing! If anyone deserved a goal for his team, it is this boy,

3:30:44 > 3:30:48

3:30:48 > 3:30:54but fantastic, he reacted like a centre forward, I am going to score

3:30:54 > 3:30:58this! There you go, they did not have a corner for nearly two hours,

3:30:58 > 3:31:08then two Khan in quick succession, two great corners. Yes, and

3:31:08 > 3:31:18

3:31:19 > 3:31:28Liverpool struggled to defend the booking for that, but he will not

3:31:29 > 3:31:29

3:31:29 > 3:32:14Apology for the loss of subtitles for 72 seconds

3:32:14 > 3:32:24tries to again, and he gets the So gritty, Cardiff, absolutely

3:32:24 > 3:32:44

3:32:44 > 3:32:54fantastic grit and determination, almost up. There will be one minute

3:32:54 > 3:33:32

3:33:32 > 3:33:42Gunnarsson. Mark Clattenberg has looked at both of the watchers on

3:33:42 > 3:33:50

3:33:50 > 3:33:54have gone all the way to penalties, and all the gears are coming from

3:33:54 > 3:33:58the Cardiff City supporters. They were beaten, they were finished in

3:33:58 > 3:34:03this Carling Cup final, but they had the passion, they had the

3:34:03 > 3:34:08resolve to come at Liverpool again and draw themselves level. Quite

3:34:08 > 3:34:12incredible! It is going to be settled by kicks from 12 yards. It

3:34:12 > 3:34:22has been a superb final, and there's more to come. The full-time

3:34:22 > 3:34:23

3:34:23 > 3:34:27score his Cardiff City 2, Liverpool performance than what we have seen

3:34:27 > 3:34:32from Cardiff this afternoon? Liverpool have played a wonderful

3:34:32 > 3:34:35part in a truly memorable game, and now, all of that, it will be

3:34:35 > 3:34:42settled by the cruellest and most exciting of outcomes, the penalty

3:34:42 > 3:34:46shoot-out. As is said, Alan, you do not want anyone to lose, but I'm

3:34:46 > 3:34:49afraid the penalty shoot-out means somebody has to. The game itself

3:34:49 > 3:34:54has been pulsating, it really has, one of the best games you will ever

3:34:54 > 3:34:58see. Twists and turns, the number of times you thought that Cardiff

3:34:58 > 3:35:03were dead and buried, especially in the last five or 10 minutes. They

3:35:03 > 3:35:08have come back into it again. He was a hero, every one of the

3:35:08 > 3:35:14Cardiff players was. Really interesting seeing Heiton there,

3:35:14 > 3:35:18this fellow put it this way, Gerrard hits it that way. For sure.

3:35:18 > 3:35:22Nowadays, the key KERS do their homework, if there is a penalty,

3:35:22 > 3:35:26the weather is taking the penalty, he has taken three and the left

3:35:26 > 3:35:34corner, two in the right. That is the information that he is getting.

3:35:34 > 3:35:40Now he has got to remember them all! Kenny is a bit more of school.

3:35:40 > 3:35:45But of course Liverpool thought they had won it. Absolutely, I have

3:35:45 > 3:35:48to say that I thought Kuyt would have been on earlier. He gets past

3:35:48 > 3:35:54the defenders, a little bit of luck with the shot, that was going miles

3:35:54 > 3:36:00wide, but he was quickest to react and a very good finish. That is a

3:36:00 > 3:36:07shot, not a cross. A fantastic finish. And now there is no way

3:36:07 > 3:36:11back. No way at all! They seemed to be dead on their feet. How he gets

3:36:11 > 3:36:16that off the line... Kuyt appeared to be the ultimate hero. And he

3:36:16 > 3:36:20nearly was with that goal as well, he nearly started. That just sums

3:36:20 > 3:36:24Cardiff up, isn't it? They never gave up, all afternoon, they have

3:36:24 > 3:36:28been a credit to their manager and to their fans, you have to say.

3:36:28 > 3:36:35This fellow has done as much as anyone. My knickers and. Imam

3:36:35 > 3:36:39Hudson at the back. He was equally, if not better than Hanson. The

3:36:39 > 3:36:45energy that he gave, he went up front for five or 10 minutes.

3:36:45 > 3:36:49Thoroughly deserved. A have they got the energy to celebrate? And he

3:36:49 > 3:36:53got a yellow card for that. A new lease of life, they have found.

3:36:53 > 3:37:01what an absolute pleasure to have sat through that again, incredible,

3:37:01 > 3:37:06it really was. A shame that someone has to lose. Will we see a villain,

3:37:07 > 3:37:10a terrible mess? Going into penalties, psychologically, Cardiff

3:37:10 > 3:37:15are in a better position, they were dead and buried. Liverpool did not

3:37:15 > 3:37:20want penalties, because they were leading. Cardiff, psychologically,

3:37:20 > 3:37:24are in a better place. Five or 10 nervous guys now, it is such a

3:37:24 > 3:37:28horrible position to being, knowing that you have got to go at there.

3:37:28 > 3:37:33You have got 80,000 people in the stadium, millions watching on

3:37:33 > 3:37:39television. The trophy could depend on you. I do not think we have got

3:37:39 > 3:37:43five players fit enough to take penalty kicks! If you look at it

3:37:43 > 3:37:53now, it should favour the technically gifted players, which

3:37:53 > 3:37:53

3:37:53 > 3:37:56Liverpool would age. He doesn't always work like that. You can

3:37:56 > 3:38:04practise and practise in training, but you cannot replicate this

3:38:04 > 3:38:08situation. Just before we came back, we got knocked out of the Cup, it

3:38:08 > 3:38:16came down to the goalkeepers, once thought, one didn't. You never know.

3:38:16 > 3:38:19A big factor. Good luck, guys, good luck! OK, well, we will leave the

3:38:19 > 3:38:24penalty shoot-out and go to the news. No, in all honesty, we are

3:38:24 > 3:38:30going to stick with it! The news will follow this mash. We will stay

3:38:30 > 3:38:33with it right to the end. Who knows what is about to happen? We can

3:38:33 > 3:38:38join Mark Lawrenson and Guy Mowbray to talk us through it.

3:38:38 > 3:38:44Well, this is the news today! Cardiff City against Liverpool in

3:38:44 > 3:38:48the Carling Cup final, penalties. Cardiff have already won twice this

3:38:48 > 3:38:51way on the road to Wembley. Liverpool have only lost two of 12

3:38:51 > 3:38:54penalty shoot-outs in the club's proud history, including the last

3:38:54 > 3:38:59one against Northampton in the second round of this Cup last

3:38:59 > 3:39:07season. This is a whole different kettle of fish. First up, Steven

3:39:07 > 3:39:15Gerrard, and it is saved by Tom Heaton! What A Safe! Brilliant save.

3:39:15 > 3:39:21Absolutely brilliant. What a day he has had. Who would have thought

3:39:21 > 3:39:30it?! Under the crossbar. The goalkeeper saved the first two

3:39:30 > 3:39:38Crystal Palace penalties in the Miller went first for Cardiff and

3:39:38 > 3:39:48he missed. Funny, often the team which misses first ends up winning.

3:39:48 > 3:39:53

3:39:53 > 3:40:03just about gets his head up, but Miller has missed as well! The

3:40:03 > 3:40:10

3:40:10 > 3:40:20known cure for constipation, unbelievable if you are taking one

3:40:20 > 3:40:36

3:40:36 > 3:40:46of them. How is Charlie Adam two first up for Liverpool, who he

3:40:46 > 3:41:09

3:41:09 > 3:41:19would have banked on, Gerrard and you consider the pressure that he

3:41:19 > 3:41:28

3:41:28 > 3:41:38Was won it once for Liverpool today. Merseyside derby this season. No

3:41:38 > 3:41:55

3:41:55 > 3:42:05He has struggled to move in the latter stages of extra time. What

3:42:05 > 3:42:12

3:42:12 > 3:42:22He just looked tired running up to address the ball, indeed? A lack of

3:42:22 > 3:42:26

3:42:26 > 3:42:30semi-final, but he would have been fresher then. Stewart Downing has

3:42:30 > 3:42:36had a good game for Liverpool, and he carries on that way, too. And

3:42:36 > 3:42:46that was nice. Yes, class, he picked his spot. Now the pendulum

3:42:46 > 3:43:02

3:43:02 > 3:43:08has just swung the red wave. -- Reina. Excellent, wasn't it? It was

3:43:08 > 3:43:18as good as Stewart Downing's. after four penalties, and now we

3:43:18 > 3:43:32

3:43:32 > 3:43:42are really at sudden death. And it Liverpool fans nearly lift the roof

3:43:42 > 3:43:58

3:43:58 > 3:44:04off Wembley. Cardiff have to score. always knew that he would play a

3:44:04 > 3:44:09big part today, but it is the wrong part for Cardiff City, and it is

3:44:09 > 3:44:15sheer joy for Liverpool, Bill are bringing a trophy back to the

3:44:15 > 3:44:21Anfield cabinet at long last again. They cannot be a worse way to lose

3:44:21 > 3:44:26a game than this. Cardiff did absolutely fantastic today. To a

3:44:26 > 3:44:31man, they should all be extremely proud of each other. It is always

3:44:31 > 3:44:34like Russian roulette, penalties. Liverpool have won it, but Cardiff

3:44:34 > 3:44:40should not be themselves up over this, because they have been

3:44:40 > 3:44:44outstanding. There always has to be a poor guy. Sadly for Cardiff City,

3:44:44 > 3:44:49it was Anthony Gerrard. His cousin Stephen missed his for Liverpool.

3:44:49 > 3:44:53It seems as though the nerves and the tired legs got to quite a few

3:44:53 > 3:45:00of the players at there. There were more honest than sport, wasn't

3:45:00 > 3:45:05there? There work. That is the last one. That they may now when the

3:45:05 > 3:45:15right way, but he did not need to get there. -- Pepe Rayner did not

3:45:15 > 3:45:26

3:45:26 > 3:45:32go down to the pitch to a hear from What a cruel way to lose and a win?

3:45:32 > 3:45:36Yes. There always has to be a loser. Cardiff supporters were fantastic

3:45:36 > 3:45:41today and they can be proud of their performance. We got through

3:45:41 > 3:45:46by the skin of Our teeth. We always do recover some reason, we have

3:45:46 > 3:45:53done it again. How does the Gerrard family feel today? One winner, one

3:45:53 > 3:45:57Musa? It was always going to be one sad and one are celebrating. It

3:45:57 > 3:46:07happens. I have got mixed emotions at the moment. Obviously I am

3:46:07 > 3:46:13delighted to win the Cup for our team but I feel for Anthony. Orwell

3:46:13 > 3:46:23you say to him? To it doesn't matter what I say. The whole family

3:46:23 > 3:46:25

3:46:25 > 3:46:35will be behind him. Thank you very nice words to cut and Anthony. He

3:46:35 > 3:46:37

3:46:37 > 3:46:42knows how he will field. -- cousin Anthony. There awkward if you

3:46:42 > 3:46:52couldn't summon up the energy to move. -- there were quite a few

3:46:52 > 3:46:56

3:46:57 > 3:47:06false -- quite a few. And Kenny Dalglish will feel it has been too

3:47:07 > 3:47:08

3:47:08 > 3:47:17long since that anthem has been heard. A nice consoling pat from

3:47:17 > 3:47:25Pepe Reina but it won't make Let's hear from the man who thought

3:47:25 > 3:47:31he had won it -- Kuyt. It has been an incredible day. Disappointed not

3:47:31 > 3:47:36to play for very long. Only 15 minutes. It was 30 seconds before

3:47:36 > 3:47:42the end of the game and I thought, this is it. Then the cornet came in

3:47:42 > 3:47:47and it ended up as penalties. The team worked really hard. At the end

3:47:47 > 3:47:51of the day, I think we deserve this. It is fair to say that Liverpool

3:47:51 > 3:47:58four penalties have not been great disease and apart from Steven

3:47:58 > 3:48:02Gerrard. When he missed, you must have been worried? Well, I thought,

3:48:02 > 3:48:11we have a few more to take and we will get back in the game. And we

3:48:11 > 3:48:18did. Her and your feelings when you went up to take your penalty?

3:48:18 > 3:48:22knew I had to score otherwise it was over. That is always the case.

3:48:22 > 3:48:27And a word about Cardiff, if you would, because they have

3:48:27 > 3:48:34contributed to a brilliant final? Brilliant. I have massive respect

3:48:34 > 3:48:38for the manager and the team and the supporters. We wanted this

3:48:38 > 3:48:44trophy so desperately. At six years, your first medal? It is

3:48:44 > 3:48:54unbelievable! This is why I came to Anfield. To get my first one at

3:48:54 > 3:48:56

3:48:56 > 3:49:05Wembley and hopefully we can get getting his hands on a winners'

3:49:05 > 3:49:13medal. You said, Mark, the first one misses at the penalty shoot-

3:49:13 > 3:49:18out... It often happens. And the despair of Anthony Gerrard plain to

3:49:18 > 3:49:27see. But at the other side of the pitch, Kenny Dalglish with a smile

3:49:27 > 3:49:33as wide as the Mersey. And up goes the vanquished team. You can see

3:49:33 > 3:49:38how much they put into the game. They can barely get up those steps.

3:49:38 > 3:49:43In the extra time, there must have been three, four of them who

3:49:43 > 3:49:49couldn't run with cramp. So it has been an amazing performance. Next

3:49:49 > 3:49:54weekend, may play West Ham United in the Championship. So they will

3:49:54 > 3:50:04need to secure a place. They will have to get back in training before

3:50:04 > 3:50:12

3:50:13 > 3:50:17that one. Liverpool are beaming ear to ear. Except Craig Bellamy,

3:50:17 > 3:50:27perhaps of stocky will have mixed feelings. Some have headed for the

3:50:27 > 3:50:28

3:50:28 > 3:50:34Welsh hills but plenty are here to cheer on the Welsh team. And

3:50:34 > 3:50:43congratulations for the captain, Mark Hudson. Really good to see

3:50:43 > 3:50:49them smiling and full of congratulations for their players.

3:50:49 > 3:50:53Here's the chairman. The major investor. And I should think that

3:50:53 > 3:51:03has only encouraged them to put a bit more in, having seen what they

3:51:03 > 3:51:10

3:51:10 > 3:51:17have today. You would hope so. come the Victors. Steven Gerrard

3:51:17 > 3:51:22leads the team up the steps. Absolutely no better feeling.

3:51:23 > 3:51:29nice to see such a big team really make a big play of this cup

3:51:29 > 3:51:34competition, right from the very start. They were a strong team and

3:51:34 > 3:51:41they have carried on like that right through. Liverpool is a club

3:51:41 > 3:51:50that wins trophies. More than many others. And it has been too long

3:51:50 > 3:51:57without one. As they said, never mind being in the Premier League.

3:51:57 > 3:52:03Are we want to win stuff. And they have done today. He might have

3:52:03 > 3:52:11missed his penalty... But his team- mates didn't. Stewart Downing, who

3:52:11 > 3:52:21was officially named the Colin man of the match. -- Carling Cup man of

3:52:21 > 3:52:34

3:52:34 > 3:52:44Steven Gerrard, to be greeted. The 19th major Cup Final at Wembley for

3:52:44 > 3:52:45

3:52:46 > 3:52:51them. The Cup has the red and white ribbons on it. Ready for Steven

3:52:51 > 3:53:01Gerrard to hold aloft. Liverpool have silverware again! Liverpool

3:53:01 > 3:53:23

3:53:23 > 3:53:29are the winners of the 2012 Carling Liverpool win the 2012 Carling Cup

3:53:29 > 3:53:35and the celebrations, you suspect, will go on and on. Steven Gerrard,

3:53:35 > 3:53:41getting the plaudits. Andy Carroll enjoying his moment. Kuyt being so

3:53:41 > 3:53:47close to being their hero in extra- time. Liverpool are triumphant. And

3:53:47 > 3:53:51Johnson nearly scored, of course, in the first few minutes with that

3:53:51 > 3:53:56crossbar. But you have to spare a thought for Cardiff. What a

3:53:56 > 3:54:03magnificently brave effort it was right to the very end. Until the

3:54:03 > 3:54:09penalty shoot-out... That finally did it for them. The new owner, J W

3:54:09 > 3:54:13Henry's first trophy as owner of Liverpool Football Club. Well would

3:54:13 > 3:54:21be a springboard for further success in future years? We shall

3:54:21 > 3:54:28see. -- will that be? It has been a while since Liverpool won a trophy.

3:54:28 > 3:54:38Absolutely. Am delighted for Kenny. He has got the team together at the

3:54:38 > 3:54:39

3:54:39 > 3:54:46football club. On the day, I thought that the game was so great.

3:54:46 > 3:54:53We had a division below Liverpool that played, I thought, sensational

3:54:53 > 3:55:00football for 90 minutes plus extra time. And brilliant for Kev. -- for

3:55:00 > 3:55:04Kenny. He has been brilliant for the club, brie and average player,

3:55:04 > 3:55:10brilliant as they manage it. But you have got to feel sorry for

3:55:10 > 3:55:20Cardiff. They contributed so much to the game. And a magnificent

3:55:20 > 3:55:24final. We talked before the game and said that maybe if Liverpool

3:55:24 > 3:55:28been getting right on the day, Cardiff could. Both teams have

3:55:28 > 3:55:33contributed to a fantastic final. One of the best I have seen for

3:55:33 > 3:55:37some time. We have players going down with cramp, just managing to

3:55:37 > 3:55:44stay on the field because of replacements. We saw such

3:55:44 > 3:55:50excitement. An absolutely magnificent final! It has been a

3:55:50 > 3:55:59while since we have heard this at the end of a game. You will never

3:55:59 > 3:56:02walk alone. It was an epic game, it and really was. The only thing I

3:56:02 > 3:56:08can say to Cardiff is that I genuinely hope they get promotion

3:56:08 > 3:56:11now because they did not deserve to lose today. Good luck to them in

3:56:11 > 3:56:17their quest to get to the Premier League, because they deserve to do

3:56:17 > 3:56:24that. Cardiff are a credit to themselves, to the club and to

3:56:24 > 3:56:33Wales, of course. Let's hear from their manager, Malky Mackay.

3:56:33 > 3:56:40Many commiserations. A bad way to lose a Carling Cup Final? Yes. It

3:56:40 > 3:56:48was. We had a chance in the last minute of the game. Kenny just

3:56:48 > 3:56:52plays it over. I thought, I am so very, very proud of them. So many

3:56:52 > 3:56:57misses in the penalty shoot-out. Is that with people being dead on

3:56:57 > 3:57:03their feet? I think it was. You saw that. You saw the misses and that

3:57:03 > 3:57:06is the way it was going to be. But higher very proud of my team.

3:57:06 > 3:57:12some of your players looking disconsolate in tears. Is this your

3:57:12 > 3:57:18biggest test as a manager? You lose with dignity and we lost today with

3:57:18 > 3:57:22dignity. For some, it is the first time they have been anywhere near

3:57:22 > 3:57:30anything like this. There are very young and emotions are running

3:57:30 > 3:57:36through them. Some have been through similar things before.

3:57:36 > 3:57:41it a comfort that it was an epic game of football? Erm... My first

3:57:41 > 3:57:44reaction is no because we were beaten and we wanted to come and

3:57:44 > 3:57:50win this debate. But the team and the club have done the Carling Cup

3:57:50 > 3:57:55proud this season. We played a top, top team and we have a lot to be

3:57:55 > 3:57:59proud of in that group of players. How to lift your players to the

3:57:59 > 3:58:04promotion now? I don't think we will have a problem with that now.

3:58:04 > 3:58:11Thank you. Such a contrast in emotions between

3:58:11 > 3:58:16the two sides. Malky Mackay speaking with such dignity there.

3:58:16 > 3:58:20That very brave defeat as the Liverpool players celebrate. That

3:58:20 > 3:58:24is the thing. When you have got the cup and you go down and you go down

3:58:24 > 3:58:28to your supporters, it is absolutely magnificent. The best

3:58:28 > 3:58:32feeling you will add a have. And as we have said before, Liverpool

3:58:32 > 3:58:36supporters have supported their team through thick and thin.

3:58:36 > 3:58:39Wonderful sets of supporters and they deserve it, they really do.

3:58:39 > 3:58:46Would you have thought years ago that Kenny Dalglish would be back

3:58:46 > 3:58:50winning trophies as manager of Liverpool? No. He deserves it, he

3:58:50 > 3:58:54really does. He is a fantastic person, a great personality. A

3:58:54 > 3:58:59great manager. And he thrives on winning things. His desire, his

3:58:59 > 3:59:08hunger to go back in and turn the club around. And it has been a long

3:59:08 > 3:59:13time for a football club. It now looks as if they are back on track.

3:59:13 > 3:59:17This can be the captain is now to push on and move on and be bigger

3:59:17 > 3:59:21and more success for and be the Liverpool of all. This could be a

3:59:21 > 3:59:27really watershed moment, couldn't it? Because if it had gone the

3:59:27 > 3:59:35other way, it could have had that Arsenal affect, and capitulated

3:59:35 > 3:59:39them until tipping us? Absolutely. They crave winning trophies. They

3:59:39 > 3:59:44expect to win trophies in Anfield. They are that sort of football club.

3:59:44 > 3:59:50And it has been a long time. You're absolutely by. This could now be

3:59:50 > 4:00:00the first of many. But with more financial backing. Once he gets a

4:00:00 > 4:00:01

4:00:01 > 4:00:11taste, he once more. He put himself in the eye! -- Brooke himself!

4:00:11 > 4:00:18

4:00:18 > 4:00:22Congratulations, what a hard way to win a car. It was a long way,

4:00:22 > 4:00:27wasn't it? Anyway, the name is on the trophy, that is all that

4:00:27 > 4:00:30matters. I thought the boys played particularly well, and Cardiff were

4:00:30 > 4:00:35always going to be difficult. The big guy of France did well for them.

4:00:35 > 4:00:39At the end of the day, we have got our name on the drover. Dirk Kuyt

4:00:39 > 4:00:42came on and scored that goal, so close to being the winning goal,

4:00:42 > 4:00:47you must have been going through murder, really. We were always

4:00:47 > 4:00:51going to be under pressure. Very good delivery from set plays. They

4:00:51 > 4:00:57were never going to lie down, they were always going to come back.

4:00:57 > 4:01:01They were tired, but they were a great credit to Cardiff. Not a nice

4:01:02 > 4:01:05way to win a car, but we will take it. Anything can happen in

4:01:05 > 4:01:10penalties, and virtually everything did, really, an extraordinary

4:01:10 > 4:01:15shoot-out. Yeah, but unfortunately it is sad that the boy misted. You

4:01:15 > 4:01:20always feel for somebody like that. But I don't know, it has got to be

4:01:20 > 4:01:26decided some way. You feel for the person that missed its, even in our

4:01:26 > 4:01:36celebrations. 40,000 Liverpool fans absolutely ecstatic. There will be

4:01:36 > 4:01:39more than that when we go home! The party scenes continue, and as

4:01:39 > 4:01:44Kenny says, I think that party will grow and grow. It is funny about

4:01:44 > 4:01:48penalty shoot-outs, isn't it? Whatever you think about them, the

4:01:48 > 4:01:52worst way to lose all the best way to win, boy, do they provide

4:01:52 > 4:02:00grammar! They are entertainment, but for a player they are an

4:02:00 > 4:02:04absolute nightmare. Dirk Kuyt's children, I am reliably informed.

4:02:04 > 4:02:11More than likely! He came on and changed the game, didn't he? He had

4:02:11 > 4:02:19the courage to go and take a penalty and stick is the way. --

4:02:19 > 4:02:24The people and red are enjoying themselves. For a while during that

4:02:24 > 4:02:29she doubt, we thought maybe he would be the hero, Chris. We saw

4:02:29 > 4:02:36him doing his homework, telling him that Steven Gerrard generally hits

4:02:36 > 4:02:40it to the keeper's right. Unbelievable save. The reaction

4:02:40 > 4:02:47with his left arm, he goes down low and throws his left arm out, that

4:02:47 > 4:02:53is incredible. As good as you'll see from a penalty. Fantastic.

4:02:53 > 4:02:56then the other Gerrard. This is the catalyst for Liverpool to go on and

4:02:56 > 4:03:01start winning trophies, the name Gerrard will be important to it.

4:03:01 > 4:03:05You think it is Steven Gerrard, but it is Anthony Gerrard that has

4:03:05 > 4:03:15helped them to win the first stroke before star ban was the best player,

4:03:15 > 4:03:20Skrtel, magnificent right the way through the match. What you notice

4:03:20 > 4:03:26is the chasm of difference in emotions between winning and losing.

4:03:26 > 4:03:30That is what makes sport what it is. It is, but if you have been in both

4:03:30 > 4:03:36positions, you know, you know, you are our there wot Dun there, it is

4:03:36 > 4:03:40horrible for Cardiff. -- up their walk down there. To play as well as

4:03:40 > 4:03:47they did and come away with nothing is horrific. We can hear from

4:03:47 > 4:03:51Stewart Downing. Stuart, League Cup winner, and man-of-the-match.

4:03:51 > 4:03:57Will made hard work of it! It was a tough game, we were running on

4:03:57 > 4:04:02empty at the end. It is a very good win at the end. Can you tell me how

4:04:02 > 4:04:07it felt when they equalised at the end of extra time? I thought we had

4:04:07 > 4:04:12won it, but they never gave up. They kept going, it is a cruel way

4:04:12 > 4:04:16to lose a game, on penalties, but I thought we were the better team.

4:04:16 > 4:04:20Standing on the halfway line watching the shoot-out, Steven

4:04:20 > 4:04:25Gerrard Mrs, Charlie Adam missus, what were you thinking? Maybe it

4:04:25 > 4:04:29was not going to be our day. Credits to the last, we kept going,

4:04:30 > 4:04:34we have got a great goalkeeper in Pepe Reina. We got the job done,

4:04:34 > 4:04:40which was good. Dirk Kuyt says it is just about confidence. Were you

4:04:40 > 4:04:44confident? I was confident, a bit nervous, but I picked my spot, and

4:04:44 > 4:04:48luckily it went in. Unlucky for the last missing theirs, but it does

4:04:48 > 4:04:53happen. Liverpool fans will remember that Liverpool won the car,

4:04:53 > 4:04:57but a word about Cardiff, they were exceptional. A credit to them, they

4:04:57 > 4:05:01have been brilliant for the way through the rounds. We knew it

4:05:01 > 4:05:05would be tough today. People expected us to win 3-0, but that

4:05:05 > 4:05:13was not the case. They were a bit unlucky at the end. Well played,

4:05:13 > 4:05:18thank you very much. You obviously do not decide who is a man of the

4:05:18 > 4:05:23match, you said Skrtel, but Downing got it. He has got unbelievable

4:05:23 > 4:05:26ability, Downing. He has got tremendous pace, he put in some

4:05:26 > 4:05:32great crosses, but I would not have given him man of the match. I hate

4:05:32 > 4:05:37to disagree with any money! Go all the way back to Liverpool's first

4:05:37 > 4:05:40game, Exeter? He put out a very strong side, that was a signal to

4:05:40 > 4:05:45say, we mean business in this competition. They did not really

4:05:45 > 4:05:50play well today, Liverpool, not as well as they can do. Right

4:05:50 > 4:05:55throughout their team, it is hard to say, as Alan said, Skrtel was,

4:05:55 > 4:05:59for me, the pick of the bunch. Taking out, Downey had one or two

4:05:59 > 4:06:06crosses, but the others... They worked extremely hard, and they

4:06:06 > 4:06:13never gave up. If the two best players on the day was Ben Turner

4:06:13 > 4:06:23and Skrtel. Grit, determination and the defenders. Cardiff took the

4:06:23 > 4:06:28

4:06:28 > 4:06:33foot, left foot, control, pokes through. A cool finish from Mason.

4:06:33 > 4:06:37That is Skrtel's bad positioning. He looks around to see where

4:06:37 > 4:06:43everybody is. It is a great pass, tremendous composure. Not a bad

4:06:43 > 4:06:47finish either. And up until then, they had a chance 15 minutes before

4:06:47 > 4:06:52that, but they could not get hold of the ball and was starting to

4:06:52 > 4:06:56fear the worst. The goal gave them greater confidence. It took a while

4:06:56 > 4:07:00for Liverpool to get an equaliser, a scrambling effort when it came

4:07:00 > 4:07:06from the corner. It was a decent ball, Andy Carroll did well to get

4:07:06 > 4:07:10on the end of it, Suarez was there with the flick. It falls to Skrtel,

4:07:10 > 4:07:15how many times? Through the keeper's legs again. Once Liverpool

4:07:15 > 4:07:21got that goal, you felt they would go on to win it, maybe 2-1, 3-1,

4:07:21 > 4:07:25and it never happened. Cardiff came right back into it, didn't they?

4:07:25 > 4:07:29soon as Liverpool levelled, you thought it was the end of the game.

4:07:29 > 4:07:33Malky Mackay mentioned it, Chris, but there was one moment where they

4:07:33 > 4:07:37could have pinched it, Cardiff, writes towards the end. A terrific

4:07:37 > 4:07:42opportunity for Kenny Miller. the ball has gone to court to

4:07:42 > 4:07:49anyone in that position, you want to forget to Kenny Miller. -- he's

4:07:49 > 4:07:54going to fall. He snatches at it. It is a magnificent first touch,

4:07:54 > 4:07:59sensational. The turn and the swivel. He will have got to give

4:07:59 > 4:08:03Andy Carroll credit. He just does enough. Amazing piece of defending,

4:08:04 > 4:08:09he throws himself at it. He did not have a great day. He put Kenny

4:08:09 > 4:08:13Miller off at the last minute. Extra-time, second half of extra-

4:08:13 > 4:08:18time, Dirk Kuyt came on as a substitute. A bit of energy. A bit

4:08:18 > 4:08:25of pace, a bit of energy. This time the Cardiff guys are virtually dead

4:08:25 > 4:08:30on their legs. Not your archetypal 12. He was a poor effort to begin

4:08:30 > 4:08:38with, but as Kenny said, the name is on the trophy. You think that

4:08:38 > 4:08:43now there is absolutely no way back for Cardiff, no way back. Unreal.

4:08:43 > 4:08:47They are on their knees, they cannot come back. And yet just

4:08:47 > 4:08:54before they scored, they had one of the line, which was incredible,

4:08:54 > 4:08:58wasn't it?! Talking about Skrtel, before Cardiff got the equaliser,

4:08:59 > 4:09:03Skrtel had some headers in important positions, and we were

4:09:03 > 4:09:09saying, magnificent defensive display. I think we can see that

4:09:09 > 4:09:14clearance of the line that you mentioned. When Kuyt gets it off

4:09:14 > 4:09:19the line, even though they get another corner... He is thinking, I

4:09:19 > 4:09:26am going to get the headlines tomorrow! For 10 minutes, man-of-

4:09:26 > 4:09:31the-match. Unbelievable. And then obviously it goes for a corner, and

4:09:31 > 4:09:36it is in the back of the net. marking Ben Turner, isn't he?

4:09:36 > 4:09:42Absolutely. If one man deserved the goal, it was this guy. Right from

4:09:42 > 4:09:52the start, he was gigantic at the back. He was huge and put in a

4:09:52 > 4:09:54

4:09:54 > 4:09:59Turner. He worked his socks off to get back to fitness. A nicer fella

4:09:59 > 4:10:02you will never meet. He is a 100% true professional, I was delighted

4:10:02 > 4:10:07that he was fit and got the equaliser. Terrific game,

4:10:07 > 4:10:17terrifically exciting. The Premier League was not bad either, you had

4:10:17 > 4:10:33

4:10:33 > 4:10:39better catch Match of the Day 2 If you missed any of the Carling

4:10:39 > 4:10:42Cup final, you can see highlights on BBC One tonight at 11:05pm. And

4:10:42 > 4:10:49Cardiff live again next week if they have got anything left to give

4:10:49 > 4:10:54against West Ham on Sunday afternoon on BBC One from 12:30pm.

4:10:54 > 4:10:58Remarkable stuff, and what does this mean for Liverpool? Again,

4:10:58 > 4:11:02like Alan says, if they had been beaten today, you would worry about

4:11:02 > 4:11:06them, but they are still in the FA Cup, they have still got a great

4:11:06 > 4:11:11chance of getting a 4th. It does not matter what Stevens says, he is

4:11:11 > 4:11:16talking about trophies, but I still think that Liverpool and Thorpe is

4:11:16 > 4:11:21a priority. They have obviously got a much better chance having won.

4:11:21 > 4:11:25have not got a long left, but a big game for you on Wednesday, your

4:11:25 > 4:11:29first as Wales manager, bound to be a poignant occasion. It is all

4:11:29 > 4:11:33about Gary Speed, to be honest. It will be difficult for the players.

4:11:33 > 4:11:37We are hoping for a good turnout, his family will be there. It is

4:11:37 > 4:11:43just about Gary Speed. I will be there but just in the background. A

4:11:43 > 4:11:46wonderful person, we are there to remember him and celebrate. Very

4:11:46 > 4:11:51much so, and looking further ahead as manager of Wales, you seem to

4:11:51 > 4:11:55have a good batch of players at the moment. How far you think you can

4:11:55 > 4:12:00go? Well, importantly, a lot of our players are playing in the Premier

4:12:00 > 4:12:04League, which is always a big help. Welsh football is on the rise,

4:12:04 > 4:12:09Cardiff we saw there, so it is an exciting time, and I just want to

4:12:09 > 4:12:13take it forward from where Gary left off. We certainly we should do

4:12:13 > 4:12:17best. Alan, your thoughts and a terrific game. Oh, magnificent, I'm

4:12:17 > 4:12:20just so pleased that we were here to witness it, an incredible

4:12:20 > 4:12:24occasion, great football match. It is a shame Cardiff had to be on the

4:12:24 > 4:12:28losing end. I wish them well in their promotion push. They deserve

4:12:28 > 4:12:32something from this season, because Malky Mackay has done a magnificent

4:12:32 > 4:12:37job. A pleasure and a privilege to be here, delighted Liverpool and