07/09/2012

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:00:43. > :00:49.1991 Rush and Saunders brush aside a Belgium team. And 192 Wales

:00:49. > :00:53.qualify again. The pressure on Des Coleman in 2012 -- no wins no goals.

:00:53. > :00:58.We have had a good three or four days together. Preparations have

:00:58. > :01:03.gone very well. They need to be, Friday is going to be a big

:01:03. > :01:11.challenge. The road to Rio begins tonight, with the Wales manager's

:01:11. > :01:18.first competitive game in charge. He has been unlucky with injuries.

:01:18. > :01:27.Hopes high with Wales' World Cup stars, including Aaron Ramsey and

:01:27. > :01:35.Gareth Bale. And the star studded Belgium team -- Eden Hazard,

:01:35. > :01:43.Marouane Fellaini, and Vincent Kompany. We have been waiting a

:01:43. > :01:52.long time for a place in the World Cup. Maybe this is it. We're on

:01:52. > :01:58.Twitter if you want to tell us what you think... Wales taking on a

:01:59. > :02:05.supremely talented Belgium side, supremely talented Belgium side,

:02:05. > :02:15.worth over �150 million. As if Wales didn't have enough injuries,

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:02:22. > :02:32.and casualties, without Bellamy and Vincent Kompany is one of seven

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:02:38. > :02:48.league players in the bellim line up. -- Belgium line-up. The ref lee

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:02:49. > :02:59.is Stefan Johannesson from Sweden. -- referee is Johannesson -- the

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:03:32. > :03:36.Wales may not see possession. main thing is when you win it back

:03:36. > :03:43.to keep it, to give the lads a little bit of a breather. Its

:03:43. > :03:49.evident early in the game that the ball is going forward too quickly.

:03:49. > :03:54.And the likes of Edwards can't make up that much ground. At the moment

:03:54. > :03:59.we're not making it difficult for Belgium. Belgium are finding it

:03:59. > :04:05.easier. They are getting into a comfort zone. It's condensed in

:04:05. > :04:13.there. It will be difficult for them n the time being to break

:04:14. > :04:20.Wales down. You can see as the game goes on, the lapse of concentration,

:04:20. > :04:28.and inexperience of the back form of Wales. Collins the free kick,

:04:28. > :04:34.Morison heads it inside. Into the side netting from Edwards. Edwards

:04:34. > :04:44.making runs forward. Getting in behind the striker. Here we see him

:04:44. > :04:44.

:04:44. > :04:54.travelling on a lot of yards, can't make it on time... A great run from

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:05:05. > :05:11.David Edwards. So unlick -- even looking at the ball. Ramsey

:05:11. > :05:20.most probably playing a little bit deeper tonight. Allowing David

:05:20. > :05:30.Edwards to go forward. Can Wales cause a problem with set piece snz

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:05:45. > :05:51.the head of Church. I'm not sure if that was lifting the ball a little

:05:52. > :05:58.bit when he got there. Not the best defending in the world. When he

:05:58. > :06:08.gets in the position, just a little bit too much on it there. Give this

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:06:33. > :06:38.corner of the game. Won by the Everton striker Mirallas. And it's

:06:39. > :06:48.Vermaelen and Vertonghen who move forward for this. There's no lack

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:07:14. > :07:21.of height in the Belgium side and for spurs... Wales living very

:07:21. > :07:27.dangerously. Collins comes to the rescue. Too many gaps. A lovely

:07:27. > :07:37.ball in by Mertens. They have got to be closer. Collins throws

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:07:54. > :08:01.himself at Vermaelen and hits his face of the goal. Another Belgium

:08:01. > :08:11.corner. They are turning the screw. And their fans are starting to see

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:08:26. > :08:33.Gareth Bale. I don't think they are the best of friends at the moment.

:08:33. > :08:43.It's the referee that makes the decision. This time Collins will go

:08:43. > :08:49.

:08:50. > :08:59.up. An opportunity for Wales. This could be the best bet for a goal...

:09:00. > :09:05.

:09:05. > :09:12.Came off Morison. Lovely play by Hazard. Collins comes back on. That

:09:12. > :09:17.was rash by Collins. A red card! It's a red card for Collins! That's

:09:17. > :09:22.one thing you don't want. You don't want, and unfortunately when you're

:09:22. > :09:29.going for challenges like that, and your studs are showing, and you

:09:29. > :09:34.have caught somebody, and I'm not sure how much of a meal he has made

:09:34. > :09:42.of it. He will miss the Serbian game as well. He will miss a good

:09:42. > :09:52.60 minutes of this game. This is is is a massive blow to Wales. Oh,

:09:52. > :09:52.

:09:52. > :10:53.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 60 seconds

:10:53. > :10:59.Another Belgium corner. The ten men just wide. He does everything right,

:10:59. > :11:06.everything right but hit the target. Can't get enough whip on the ball

:11:06. > :11:16.to get it into the far corner. Great technique... You know,

:11:16. > :11:30.

:11:30. > :11:39.thankfully the ball was just off get something from the game. Bale

:11:39. > :11:46.on side, and it's Morison. It was an air kick! I don't know about the

:11:46. > :11:55.air kick, the defender was Kompany who got there before him. Great

:11:56. > :12:05.defending. That's at least got the Welsh crowd roaring. Wales needs

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:12:34. > :12:44.who does so well, but just can't get there. Morison swipes at it,

:12:44. > :12:47.

:12:47. > :12:55.but what a great saving tackle. Pulls it back, and it was someone

:12:55. > :13:05.else who got there. For most of the time you feel it will be Belgium on

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:13:25. > :13:30.there! I think that's put -- foot up. That's why he is bringing it...

:13:30. > :13:36.If this lad can play in that little bit of a hole behind the striker

:13:36. > :13:43.and look at this ground he's making up, the defender has to stop, and

:13:43. > :13:50.the keeper has to get there, he has got to let it bounce. I'm afraid

:13:50. > :13:54.his foot is up. That's what it has been given for. Wales will take

:13:54. > :14:00.heart, but they have to defend another corner. Gareth Bale missed

:14:00. > :14:10.the Olympics because of injury. With pace like that he might have

:14:10. > :14:12.

:14:13. > :14:19.been used more than just in the football. A goal for Belgium! The

:14:19. > :14:23.ten men have relented! When you are down to ten men, the last thing you

:14:24. > :14:29.want to do is concede from a set piece. Especially a corner. It has

:14:29. > :14:35.to be tight in all areas. There's nobody in front. They have got to

:14:35. > :14:43.do better. If he's that tight he has to get his head somewhere near

:14:43. > :14:53.his head. The -- but Kompany is big and strong, too strong for Blake.

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:14:53. > :15:38.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 60 seconds

:15:38. > :15:47.challenge ahead for Des Coleman's looks dangerous. His quality as

:15:47. > :15:52.times seems to let him down. He has had a lot of the ball tonight, so

:15:52. > :15:58.obviously he will make more mistakes, but he has to take a

:15:58. > :16:08.little bit more cause. He's causing a little bit of damage to Wales at

:16:08. > :16:19.

:16:19. > :16:29.the moment. His final cross is tried to cut it down. Dembele to

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:16:29. > :16:35.the box. Witsel and over the bar. Out of the midfield players, Witsel

:16:35. > :16:43.is the one you want to see striking the ball. As a Wales player, the

:16:43. > :16:53.two -- other two are very, very dangerous. They're doing well with

:16:53. > :17:06.

:17:07. > :17:16.Dembele, keeping him off his back to say, why did I do that. Lukaku

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:17:18. > :17:26.wants the ball delivered a little bit early. Matthews did just enough.

:17:26. > :17:33.Matthews done really, really well. Look at the damage he does. A

:17:33. > :17:41.lovely ball into the box. Matthews does enough. This is Bale,

:17:41. > :17:47.immediately Fellaini is in his shadow. This time Bale is bundled

:17:47. > :17:53.over. Is this the opportunity you were talking about. As long as it's

:17:53. > :17:59.1-0 and you get opportunities like this, anything can happen. It's a

:17:59. > :18:05.set piece. The one thing you do is get this man the ball. If that's a

:18:05. > :18:13.foul or not, I'm not too sure. He commits players, if you miss time

:18:13. > :18:23.or anything, the slightest touch, this lad will go down. Will he

:18:23. > :18:26.

:18:26. > :18:36.shoot or cross it. He's sizing up the free kick, Gareth Bale. The

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:18:39. > :18:48.Welsh talisman. His country are in need now. And it's pushed away by

:18:48. > :18:56.Courtois. The keeper made it look as if it was harder than it was. He

:18:56. > :19:04.dived, if he stands up, he sure could safe it, but it's a great

:19:04. > :19:14.shot, swerving, and dipping. A glimmer of hope for backs to the

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:19:16. > :19:21.wall Wales. Argy bargy between Fellaini and Church. Header from

:19:21. > :19:30.Williams, another corner. And suddenly the Welsh crowd has come

:19:30. > :19:40.alive. You're asking questions of the defenders, and asking questions

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:19:40. > :20:22.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 60 seconds

:20:22. > :20:29.of the goalkeeper. Ramsey delivers Kompany is there, Church goes

:20:29. > :20:39.tumbling over. The referee looks but does not give a free kick,

:20:39. > :20:41.

:20:41. > :20:49.Church looks hurt and annoyed. Got to do better than that. A little

:20:49. > :20:59.bit stupid by Lukaku. A little bit of a touch. Gunter goes down.

:20:59. > :21:02.

:21:02. > :21:12.Lovely ball by Ramsey. It's a nudge, a push. He falls inside the penalty

:21:12. > :21:13.

:21:13. > :21:23.area. No wonder Church looks aggrieved. Welsh reinforcements

:21:23. > :21:25.

:21:25. > :21:35.being prepared on the side. Every player bar koirtkoirt in the Welsh

:21:35. > :22:07.

:22:07. > :22:14.substitutions. No shock with Morison or Church. Robson-Kanu and

:22:14. > :22:22.Sam Vokes, the last player to score for Wales in the international

:22:22. > :22:32.against Norway on this ground, he replaces Morison. It's a hard task

:22:32. > :22:38.

:22:38. > :22:43.for Steve Morison up front. Thankless, in fact. A handball from

:22:43. > :22:53.a few of the players, referee Johannesson has not exactly

:22:53. > :23:12.

:23:12. > :23:21.He's so composed on the ball. That's his main asset. This time

:23:21. > :23:31.Edwards gives it away. Lukaku could be here but Myhill smothers it. A

:23:31. > :23:42.

:23:42. > :23:50.a little touch from Ramsey. Seems as if there was contact. The way

:23:50. > :23:58.that Lukaku pulled up was a little bit of a... When his back foot, he

:23:58. > :24:08.makes contact with Ramsey. Impedes him a little bit. Mertens is there,

:24:08. > :24:08.

:24:08. > :24:17.and Lukaku and Fellaini are the tall players in the box. And it's a

:24:17. > :24:23.second! It's Vertonghen and surely that's it for Wales. Belgium have

:24:23. > :24:29.done enough. The ten men concede a second goal. And Wales are off to a

:24:29. > :24:39.false start in their World Cup qualifying campaign. This is it, it

:24:39. > :24:41.

:24:41. > :24:49.was hit with ven income. He hit it with his left foot, straight into

:24:49. > :24:55.the corner -- venom. The pace of the ball. A self-inflicted defeat

:24:55. > :25:03.Kevin? Obviously it doesn't help. The sending off goes a long way

:25:03. > :25:13.to... That's definitely a booking. A cheap booking by Belgium

:25:13. > :25:26.

:25:26. > :25:36.standards. Witsel will be fuming there. Wilmotts will be fuming. I

:25:36. > :26:11.

:26:11. > :26:17.wonder how Coleman raises morale possession. Plenty to think about

:26:17. > :26:23.for Coleman over the next days. A lot depends on who is fit or not

:26:23. > :26:28.after the game. They will have to take stock, and maybe when they get

:26:28. > :26:34.to Serbia, have a light training session and a good staff meeting on

:26:34. > :26:39.the Monday night. Looks like they'll go four games without

:26:39. > :26:49.scoring for the first time since 2005. The bottom seeds in this

:26:49. > :26:53.

:26:53. > :26:58.group and they have started with a defeat! Belgium gave Coleman plenty

:26:58. > :27:05.of problems. Also the defeat was self-inflicted. Bale tried his best.

:27:05. > :27:12.But it was ten men for more than an hour. The Red Devils took advantage

:27:12. > :27:19.to open up their World Cup campaign with a priceless away victory.

:27:19. > :27:24.Wales up against it in this group face a Herculean task a poor, poor

:27:24. > :27:28.start to their qualification campaign, the road to Rio looks

:27:28. > :27:33.longer than ever now. Wales 0, longer than ever now. Wales 0,

:27:33. > :27:39.Belgium 2. We will discuss the red card in a moment. First reaction

:27:39. > :27:47.from the stadium. We start with Des Coleman. You know what I think I'm

:27:47. > :27:55.very, very proud of the players. I thought they did give everything

:27:55. > :28:02.they had. They we had to be cagey. When we are down to ten men, we

:28:02. > :28:07.can't go gung-ho and attack. It would have been a cricket score.

:28:07. > :28:13.Any complaints about a red card? didn't think it was a red card. We

:28:13. > :28:18.have to make contact with teams. Unless I have forgotten what

:28:18. > :28:28.football is about, it's a contact sport. Both players went hard for

:28:28. > :28:29.

:28:29. > :28:34.the ball. It wasn't a red card, not in my book. What was -- has Collins

:28:35. > :28:39.said. He has apologised. He wanted to win the game as much as anybody

:28:39. > :28:46.else. He showed the determination when he was on the pitch.

:28:46. > :28:51.Unfortunately things happen. good a start for you?

:28:51. > :28:56.unbelievable start. I didn't know where the put Wales before this

:28:56. > :29:02.game. I'm 100% that a lot of teams will lose points here. And that's

:29:02. > :29:09.why I'm happy with the result. you have Joe Allen for Serbia. And

:29:09. > :29:17.where do you go from here? It's a poor start. Of course it's about

:29:17. > :29:23.points. Going into the game without the strongest 11 against this team,

:29:24. > :29:28.a fancyed team. It should not be big surprises that they got the

:29:28. > :29:32.three points. We fancied ourselves, and maybe with 11 it may have been

:29:32. > :29:36.a different score. When the players give us that, we'll pick points up.

:29:36. > :29:40.It will be difficult for the Serbian game. We don't know what

:29:40. > :29:47.will happen with Joe. We have bumps and bruises after tonight. We'll

:29:47. > :29:51.see in the next 24 hours how the players are. Fascinating stuff from

:29:51. > :29:56.Des Coleman. We'll talk about the red card, I want to get your

:29:56. > :30:04.thoughts about what happened. The worst possible start. Listening to

:30:04. > :30:10.Chris, they are right, if they are playing with the 11 strongest Wales

:30:10. > :30:15.could field, they would have a chance. But a difficult, difficult

:30:15. > :30:20.task. Hard work. But not good enough. We said Wales had to get

:30:20. > :30:24.off to a decent start. They would have liked. To the Belgium side,

:30:24. > :30:29.great players in there. Always going to be tough. Especially to

:30:29. > :30:34.lose key players. Worked hard. Stuck to their job, and

:30:34. > :30:40.responsibilities, and at the end of the day it wasn't enough. The worst

:30:40. > :30:46.part about tonight, Wales got off to a decent start. First 20 minutes

:30:46. > :30:53.they were into it. You could see they had a game plan. And the way

:30:53. > :30:59.they set up, a lost players behind the walls -- ball the possession to

:30:59. > :31:05.Belgium. When the ball came into the box, they defended it well. As

:31:05. > :31:11.the game within -- went on, they had a couple of chances. And

:31:11. > :31:16.Edwards doing what he does, on another day he may have got a goal.

:31:16. > :31:22.Wales were well into it? They had Belgium frustrated and keeping

:31:22. > :31:29.their shape well. They had a chance. Later on Bale, the first time he

:31:29. > :31:36.gets a one on one. You know what Bale brings to Wales. First time

:31:36. > :31:44.with one on one with a defender. Maybe a right froot there, but a

:31:44. > :31:50.fantastic run with Bale. Probably Wales' best play again. Has James

:31:50. > :31:56.Collins cost his team victory tonight? I think so. Listening to

:31:56. > :32:01.Chris when he says he didn't think it was a red card. He will have to

:32:01. > :32:09.admit it's a red card. Two feed off the floor. Excessive force. The

:32:09. > :32:18.pace of the challenge. I don't know how much he caught the guy, but for

:32:18. > :32:25.me a definite red card. Slow it down. Isn't he going for the ball.

:32:25. > :32:35.Of course, he mistimed it, about -- if he wins the ball. Great. But he

:32:35. > :32:36.

:32:36. > :32:44.has mistimed it. As a manager, if your player is sent off. James very

:32:44. > :32:52.committed the adrenaline going. Sees a chance to put an hard attack

:32:52. > :32:59.in. He mistimed it. Once you have mistimed it, it looks worse, and

:32:59. > :33:07.you leave it down to the referee. With all Belgium's fantastic play,

:33:07. > :33:14.they have outdone us with two set pieces. Defensively Wales were

:33:14. > :33:21.unsettled after that. As James highlighted, they were solid, but

:33:21. > :33:27.you have Collins, and Williams on Kompany. James heads the ball away,

:33:27. > :33:37.gets sent off. They have to change. Dars dars goes on Kompany and

:33:37. > :33:42.

:33:42. > :33:48.Williams has to move on Fellaini. sloppy goal. It is, once down to

:33:48. > :33:55.ten men, they kept their shape well. They will be disappointed, five

:33:55. > :34:00.minutes before half time, a set piece, and all the hard work to

:34:00. > :34:06.waste. Great to hear Des Coleman talk about the bravery. In the

:34:06. > :34:09.second half there was a couple of chances. I think you can see a

:34:09. > :34:17.notable difference. Chris and the management team have told the

:34:17. > :34:23.players to get the ball down and pla -- play it. Nothing to lose.

:34:23. > :34:31.Get brave in possession. I you can see it in the second half. Bale

:34:31. > :34:41.takes a couple of players on. And from the free kick we know what to

:34:41. > :34:41.

:34:41. > :34:51.expect from Gareth Bale. The second half was a tale of free kicks.

:34:51. > :34:53.

:34:53. > :35:00.Courtois there, and that extra step to the side cost him. His body

:35:00. > :35:10.weight has transferred. Perhaps he's not playing week in week out,

:35:10. > :35:19.

:35:19. > :35:29.if he stays where he was in the Serbia, Wales' next opponents on

:35:29. > :35:47.

:35:47. > :35:55.Tuesday night play at Hampden Park You know how difficult it is to

:35:55. > :36:00.play in a situation like Serbia, always a different place to g and

:36:00. > :36:05.like Belgium have gifted footballers. It will be a tough

:36:05. > :36:10.place. Belgrade, they have lost a game, and they have a few knocks,

:36:10. > :36:15.and will Joe Allen be fit? It will be difficult. But they have to pick

:36:15. > :36:20.up points. Physically and mentally they will be tired and take a

:36:21. > :36:27.couple of days to recover. And move on to a tough challenge ahead.

:36:27. > :36:33.Something they have to look forward to. Can Des Coleman shake it up. He

:36:33. > :36:38.looks at the squad and says can I freshen it up. If there are

:36:38. > :36:48.injuries, he will be positive as Chris always is. For me, you're

:36:48. > :36:55.looking down the years, Hearts, and Rush, no disrespect to the Wales

:36:55. > :37:02.forward line, I don't think Wales has scored a goal under Des Coleman.

:37:02. > :37:05.Defensive errors have cost us. all the hard work and attitude and

:37:05. > :37:10.professionalism they have showed tonight, they will be disappointed

:37:10. > :37:17.they have lost the game on two set pieces. There were a number of

:37:17. > :37:27.positives, take it into the next game. But there are things they can

:37:27. > :37:32.fine tune. When you were so close in 1994. Can you see the 1578 thing

:37:32. > :37:38.here. Yes I can. It's about Wales not anybody else. You have a

:37:38. > :37:45.contract with your own job. Wales to start on Serbia. Try and in this

:37:45. > :37:49.case a point. Definitely. It's like nothing to expect of them. They

:37:49. > :37:55.have nothing to lose. Good honest players working hard for the shirt

:37:55. > :38:00.and the country. A lot to play for. Gareth Bale is so crucial to the

:38:00. > :38:06.set-up. We saw that tonight. will be one of those things, is

:38:06. > :38:12.Gareth Bale going to be another Giggs. Never able to perform on a

:38:12. > :38:21.world stage in a major competition. You have to believe, you have to