Shearer Meets Lascelles

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0:00:43 > 0:00:47For almost 90 years, this iconic feat of engineering has

0:00:47 > 0:00:50been bringing the people of Tyneside together.

0:00:50 > 0:00:53Little more than a mile up the road, at St James' Park,

0:00:53 > 0:00:56Newcastle United Football Club has been doing that for even longer.

0:00:56 > 0:00:59The cathedral on the hill is the destination to which the truly

0:00:59 > 0:01:03devoted have flocked for well over a century.

0:01:03 > 0:01:06Tonight, Newcastle captains past and present come together,

0:01:06 > 0:01:09when Alan Shearer meets Jamaal Lascelles, and former

0:01:09 > 0:01:13Magpie Rob Lee and journalist Simon Bird will help us see things

0:01:13 > 0:01:14in black and white.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17Also on the show, we'll explore the origins of Harry Kane,

0:01:17 > 0:01:19reflect on the past seven days in the Premier League,

0:01:19 > 0:01:26and comedian Matt Forde endures a stat attack.

0:01:26 > 0:01:33We will start with Jamaal Lascelles death amongst those impressed is a

0:01:33 > 0:01:47certain Alan Shearer. So we got the two together for a little Toon talk.

0:01:47 > 0:01:56COMMENTATOR: Brilliant challenge! Take your time, we're freezing here!

0:01:56 > 0:02:01Sorry about that.How was training? All right, standard, yeah. Bet this

0:02:01 > 0:02:13rings back a few memories?It does, yeah. How are you?All right.Shall

0:02:13 > 0:02:21we get his moustache on here?!Keep it out of the camera!Are you all

0:02:21 > 0:02:28right? Nice to see you. Are you happy at Newcastle, you settled in

0:02:28 > 0:02:32very well as a maid wasn't an easy start for you?No, in my first year

0:02:32 > 0:02:40there was a lot of ups and downs. Everything here has been positive

0:02:40 > 0:02:48Jamaal Lascelles on his first Premier League start! I've had to

0:02:48 > 0:02:51work hard, coming up through Nottingham Forest and Stevenage -

0:02:51 > 0:02:58that was a massive learning curve for me.In what way?Becoming a man,

0:02:58 > 0:03:04going from U21s football at Forest going to a League One team with big

0:03:04 > 0:03:12men, and it's about winning and losing.Half-time change, 45 minutes

0:03:12 > 0:03:24for Jamaal Lascelles...Southampton away, you were quite...It's not

0:03:24 > 0:03:28acceptable, as individuals, as a team we were quite poor, actually.

0:03:28 > 0:03:34It's just not good enough.Do you think Rafa might have looked at that

0:03:34 > 0:03:41and thought, I'm going to give him a chance as captain, do you think that

0:03:41 > 0:03:44helped you?It was definitely a turning point for me because before

0:03:44 > 0:03:49that I was in and out of the team. At Southampton I said what I had to

0:03:49 > 0:03:55say and after that we went on a pretty good run.The youngest

0:03:55 > 0:04:00captain in the Premier League - how does that sound?It does sound crazy

0:04:00 > 0:04:04when you put it like that but I don't really see it like that. I am

0:04:04 > 0:04:1423 but the manager trusts me, I've got good people around me. There is

0:04:14 > 0:04:21the pressure but because of everybody around me...Jamaal

0:04:21 > 0:04:26Lascelles is hugged by everybody in Black and Whites!We're not Man

0:04:26 > 0:04:29City, we're not Chelsea, we know that but we will work the whole

0:04:29 > 0:04:32game. That's the way we're going to have to get results, by working

0:04:32 > 0:04:42hard.Football is a job you have to go out and enjoy it. Do you enjoy

0:04:42 > 0:04:46defending?I love it, I love coming into training every morning and

0:04:46 > 0:04:53seeing the boys, I think it's the best job in the world.I was lucky

0:04:53 > 0:04:57enough to play here at Newcastle for ten years, and six or seven of those

0:04:57 > 0:05:02years were as captain - it's an amazing feeling when you walk out

0:05:02 > 0:05:09here with the armband on at St James' Park.Every time you step out

0:05:09 > 0:05:13there you get goose bumps. It's crazy. I saw the banner and I

0:05:13 > 0:05:17thought, there is no way that's me. Tell us about Rafa. When we see him

0:05:17 > 0:05:23on the touchline, he's screaming.He will be doing that on the touchline

0:05:23 > 0:05:27but I guarantee is the calmest person in the stadium. Every single

0:05:27 > 0:05:31day we're doing tactical and technical work, he's a

0:05:31 > 0:05:38perfectionist. He will stop us and correct us and advise us. I think

0:05:38 > 0:05:42I've improved so much because of him, not just football-wise but also

0:05:42 > 0:05:46man management, being a better captain and leader. I appreciate

0:05:46 > 0:05:55everything he's done.He's a worker, he wants to improve and learn. He's

0:05:55 > 0:06:00rushing in a nice way the others and he's someone you can talk and

0:06:00 > 0:06:04explain things very well as in his English is better than my English!

0:06:04 > 0:06:08He has the character and personality to tell people what he thinks they

0:06:08 > 0:06:14have to do.He's not afraid to do that?No. Sometimes you have to tell

0:06:14 > 0:06:19him about the way to approach, but I prefer someone that is honest and is

0:06:19 > 0:06:24clear and I think that the rest of them, they appreciate that.Does he

0:06:24 > 0:06:31treat you any different to the other players?Yeah, yesterday I did not

0:06:31 > 0:06:35really train because I was in the office the whole session. He told me

0:06:35 > 0:06:43to act a certain way and keep the boys was at if. He might be, like,

0:06:43 > 0:06:47you might not be able to do that to him because of his character... So

0:06:47 > 0:06:52he's telling me how to speak to people.What did he say to you when

0:06:52 > 0:07:00you had the training ground bust up, then?Jonjo Shelvey wears a cast to

0:07:00 > 0:07:06protect a broken finger while intervening in a spat between Jamaal

0:07:06 > 0:07:13Lascelles and Mohamed Diame.He's seen worse.But as captain you are

0:07:13 > 0:07:21entitled to do that?Of course, that's my job. If it gets to blows,

0:07:21 > 0:07:26it hurts to blows, but I've got to do my job.You've represented

0:07:26 > 0:07:30England in the same team as Eric Dier, Harry Kane - can you see

0:07:30 > 0:07:34yourself making the next step and getting into the full England team?

0:07:34 > 0:07:39Would be nice to get a call-up, but there's a lot of competition and

0:07:39 > 0:07:44players already selected in my position. So I will try and let my

0:07:44 > 0:07:47football do the talking. Keep getting good results and doing well

0:07:47 > 0:07:54for the team.Tammy Abraham! Cleared off the line magnificently by Jamaal

0:07:54 > 0:07:59Lascelles, the Newcastle United captain!For me it's about staying

0:07:59 > 0:08:11consistent.Jamaal Lascelles, at both ends of the ground!You've just

0:08:11 > 0:08:14signed a long-term contract - that also sends a message that you are

0:08:14 > 0:08:19here to stay and you like what you're seeing?Yeah, I love it up

0:08:19 > 0:08:25here and I give my all for this shirt. This club is a top club, and

0:08:25 > 0:08:30even if the results sometimes don't go our way, it's important that we

0:08:30 > 0:08:36try our best and definitely this group of boys does that.An FA Cup

0:08:36 > 0:08:39run would be nice. I was lucky enough to play in a couple of finals

0:08:39 > 0:08:44here with Newcastle, and we had thousands lining the street when we

0:08:44 > 0:08:49were beaten. I want to be alive when Newcastle win a trophy, so if you

0:08:49 > 0:08:54wouldn't mind, way you give it your best shot in the FA Cup, please?We

0:08:54 > 0:09:00will try our best, no matter what game!That interview was conducted

0:09:00 > 0:09:06before the Bournemouth match in which Jamaal got injured. He has

0:09:06 > 0:09:10been so influential so hopefully he will not take too long to recover?

0:09:10 > 0:09:15Yeah, he's been a fantastic defender this year, he's shown real

0:09:15 > 0:09:19leadership and Rafa is building the defence around him.Not just us but

0:09:19 > 0:09:23also Rafa is developing him as a person. When you hear Jamaal saying

0:09:23 > 0:09:27what Rafa does with him, learning how to be a leader, teaching him the

0:09:27 > 0:09:31nuances as well, about the different people and characters, which is

0:09:31 > 0:09:41refreshing to hear?It is, and Rafa is very, very good at that. It is

0:09:41 > 0:09:45part of a, knowing which players you can tell off and which need an arm

0:09:45 > 0:09:50around their shoulders. It has taken a while because at the start he was

0:09:50 > 0:09:55not in the team all the time but now, he's the one who has a go at

0:09:55 > 0:10:02the players even if he's not playing well. But this is what you have to

0:10:02 > 0:10:08do if and Newcastle do need a leader. So it is fantastic if he

0:10:08 > 0:10:12comes up and starts leading the club.In the last couple of matches

0:10:12 > 0:10:15things have been going really well. It is amazing when you're in a

0:10:15 > 0:10:20bubble like Newcastle, a one club city, how quickly things can swing.

0:10:20 > 0:10:24We were at the foundation dinner last night and Rafa's plea to the

0:10:24 > 0:10:30fans, stay together as a man we need that.The last two games they have

0:10:30 > 0:10:34lost 1-0 and if they had won them both they would have gone forth.

0:10:34 > 0:10:38Margins are so fine this year. He was defending himself the other week

0:10:38 > 0:10:44saying that he wanted a boring -- he wasn't a boring coach, he was just

0:10:44 > 0:10:52really well-organised. That's what is going to get them through the

0:10:52 > 0:10:55season and keep them in the Premier League next year. And that's what

0:10:55 > 0:11:01Newcastle have got to do this year. They're not going to be a Kevin

0:11:01 > 0:11:06Keegan attacking team.Not yet! The other uncertain situation going on

0:11:06 > 0:11:10off the pitch is the sale of the club. Mike Ashley has been saying he

0:11:10 > 0:11:14wants to sell for quite a while. The noises were that were speeding up,

0:11:14 > 0:11:19which would also create uncertainty, and January is coming up fast?I

0:11:19 > 0:11:24can't see it being sold by January. If it is sold by the end of the

0:11:24 > 0:11:27season, to the right people, I would be pleased. I have got a tough

0:11:27 > 0:11:35run-up to Christmas. I don't want to be pessimistic but we have got some

0:11:35 > 0:11:42big games coming up as well as Bournemouth and Burnley.What is the

0:11:42 > 0:11:47word on the street about the sale? Well, we're hearing that there are

0:11:47 > 0:11:53positive signs behind the scenes but it is all very secret. Will the new

0:11:53 > 0:11:59bidder come up with £300 million to buy the club? The fans are hoping

0:11:59 > 0:12:03that there will be a big injection of cash into the club. I think Rafa

0:12:03 > 0:12:08himself is actually working off two different transfer lists, one with

0:12:08 > 0:12:13lots of money, one with very little. It would be a rush to get it through

0:12:13 > 0:12:18for January. We do not know who is behind the bid or what their

0:12:18 > 0:12:21ambitions will be. Lots of questions to be answered.And we can't answer

0:12:21 > 0:12:27any of them really today!We can't! It would be nice to see someone come

0:12:27 > 0:12:33in and grab the club from the bottom to the top, the academy to the top,

0:12:33 > 0:12:39the potential is ridiculous. 52,000 turn up every single week, whether

0:12:39 > 0:12:47they get relegated or not. You walk round the town, you've got old

0:12:47 > 0:12:51ladies with shirts on, the kids, its huge potential for somebody to buy

0:12:51 > 0:12:54this club.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56And Alan Shearer has been a busy man of late,

0:12:56 > 0:12:59for this Sunday at 10.30pm on BBC One, you can watch his

0:12:59 > 0:13:01documentary exploring the possible links between football

0:13:01 > 0:13:04and dementia.

0:13:04 > 0:13:18Let's catch up with what else has been going on in the past week. Van

0:13:18 > 0:13:28La Parra... Finds the back of the net! For West Brom, nine top-flight

0:13:28 > 0:13:37games without a victory.To go such a long time without winning a game,

0:13:37 > 0:13:41things conspire against you at times.

0:13:41 > 0:13:49COMMENTATOR: That's a great delivery... And Murray scores!Mo

0:13:49 > 0:13:56Salah... Drove it well! Mo Salah's second and Liverpool's fourth on

0:13:56 > 0:14:04another dark day for Slaven Bilic and West Ham!In football the

0:14:04 > 0:14:07pressure mounts, and in this moment it is big. We'll see what they are

0:14:07 > 0:14:23going to do.Good ball, good header, good goal! Morata scores for

0:14:23 > 0:14:25Chelsea, as Manchester United are beaten for only the second time in

0:14:25 > 0:14:33the league this season.That's goal number 50 for them this season! And

0:14:33 > 0:14:37for long periods Manchester City were the better side.We are so, so

0:14:37 > 0:14:46pleased.Everton now have the chance to turn a 2-0 deficit into a 3-2

0:14:46 > 0:14:53lead in added time... It's 3-2 to Everton! Incredible turnaround! Can

0:14:53 > 0:15:04Tom Cleverley do it? No, he can't, he has missed!I stood there for two

0:15:04 > 0:15:06weeks is the proudest man in the world, and nobody can take that

0:15:06 > 0:15:12away.

0:15:12 > 0:15:17ShearerAs a friend I'm pleased. Pleased for him, and knowing him,

0:15:17 > 0:15:22what he has been going through for the last couple of years.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25David Moyes has been appointed at the West Ham manager.

0:15:25 > 0:15:29I think I have to do that and show it.

0:15:29 > 0:15:37Sometimes you have to repair things. Maybe I have a little bit to repair.

0:15:37 > 0:15:42So another one goes. And quickly, Slaven Bilic has been replaced by

0:15:42 > 0:15:47David Moyes. It is interesting to hear what he and Mike were saying

0:15:47 > 0:15:51about his friend about he was relieved for his friend as the

0:15:51 > 0:15:57stress and the remember was getting to him. But it does seem that there

0:15:57 > 0:16:00is an earlier cull than ever before with managers is that a strategic

0:16:00 > 0:16:09thing with the owners?I think that they panic, the owners. If you have

0:16:09 > 0:16:15pour or Fife games and no win it is ten games, in all. It is real

0:16:15 > 0:16:19pressure on the managers tor the Premier League teams to survive.

0:16:19 > 0:16:27You were not impressed with the acquisitions?I think that the

0:16:27 > 0:16:34management is kept or lost by who they bye. The question is who are

0:16:34 > 0:16:41buying the players? The players he bought or he has sanctioned to bye

0:16:41 > 0:16:46have not been great. -- buy have not been great.And David Moyes, will

0:16:46 > 0:16:51the West Ham fans take to him?At the moment on social media, no.

0:16:51 > 0:17:00I think he will do well. He has a six-month contract.

0:17:00 > 0:17:06Whether they give him money to strengthen in January, I'm not sure.

0:17:06 > 0:17:11He has to organise them well.He is coming in with baggage.

0:17:11 > 0:17:19He was at Sunderland.That was a tough job to have.

0:17:19 > 0:17:24Right from the start he was negative. He was trying to be honest

0:17:24 > 0:17:30two games in last year, that they were in a relegation fight and would

0:17:30 > 0:17:36be for the entire season. He was trying to call it as it was. I think

0:17:36 > 0:17:40for West Ham, he has to inject a lot more positivity if he can.

0:17:40 > 0:17:47A few of the clubs are not having a good time. West Brom. Three wins at

0:17:47 > 0:17:51the end of March. Tony Pulis has been getting stick from the end of

0:17:51 > 0:18:00last season?I think he is one of those but any club in trouble would

0:18:00 > 0:18:05employ him to get out of trouble. But the fans want to see different

0:18:05 > 0:18:09football. They want to see the team progress. That is where Tony Pulis

0:18:09 > 0:18:15is. The fans are getting fed up with the way that they play and the

0:18:15 > 0:18:21negativity of not scoring goals and seeing exciting football. I played

0:18:21 > 0:18:26in Keegan's team, we just tried to score as many goals as possible. But

0:18:26 > 0:18:30I look at the Premier League and everybody, even the top teams are

0:18:30 > 0:18:35getting draws. Not what Pep Guardiola is doing? He

0:18:35 > 0:18:38is more Keeganesque!He is great to watch.

0:18:38 > 0:18:46As a neutral. But you turn on the telly to watch them. That is the

0:18:46 > 0:18:49difference between watching them and Chelsea or Manchester United. He

0:18:49 > 0:18:52goes out and let's the players play.

0:18:52 > 0:18:54He goes out and let's the players play.

0:18:54 > 0:18:56Last month, Harry Kane was named on the shortlist

0:18:56 > 0:18:59for the Ballon D'Or - reward for a stellar year for club

0:18:59 > 0:19:01and country that has so far produced 45 goals.

0:19:01 > 0:19:04Where will his incredible story head next, you might wonder?

0:19:04 > 0:19:08But what about where it all began?

0:19:08 > 0:19:14I wouldn't say I could see what was happening to him happening to him

0:19:14 > 0:19:19but you always thought that this boy has a chance.With Harry, humanity

0:19:19 > 0:19:23is first. He is always looking to improve.

0:19:23 > 0:19:28He is always driven. The first memory of Harry, we did a

0:19:28 > 0:19:33trial for ridgeway. We got a few boys turning up.

0:19:33 > 0:19:39Everyone's lined up. I ask have we got a goalkeeper to do shooting.

0:19:39 > 0:19:43This little boy puts his hand up to go in goal. He is tipping it around

0:19:43 > 0:19:48the post. A couple over. Tipping it over the bar. I think this is great.

0:19:48 > 0:19:55This is good. We have a goalkeeper. It is good to get a goalkeeper at a

0:19:55 > 0:20:00young age. And then this woman comes up to me and says he is not a

0:20:00 > 0:20:05goalkeeper. So I said we would put him on the pitch and the rest, as

0:20:05 > 0:20:11they say, is history. I met Harry at school. Years back. I

0:20:11 > 0:20:17loved playing with him. He knew where I was, I knew where he was.

0:20:17 > 0:20:24He could hit the boy, even as a 10 and an 11-year-old. Always getting

0:20:24 > 0:20:30goals.He could play. He would go through.

0:20:30 > 0:20:35He's had a coup of seasons and then the scouts turn up. Arsenal takes in

0:20:35 > 0:20:41a couple of boys. He was signed U9 at Arsenal.I met Harry at Arsenal

0:20:41 > 0:20:48in the academy. He was a competent goalkeeper. But his real desire was

0:20:48 > 0:20:53to score goals. I'm convinced the reason he is a clinical striker, is

0:20:53 > 0:20:58he know what is the goalkeeper doesn't like. He shoots early before

0:20:58 > 0:21:03the goalkeeper is set. He shoots around players, through the legs.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06All the things that a goalkeeper hates.

0:21:06 > 0:21:12At times I believed he was the second top scorer behind Benik

0:21:12 > 0:21:19Afobe, then they decided at 11 years of age that they didn't want him.I

0:21:19 > 0:21:25thought that we encountered as young people and that adversity shaped us

0:21:25 > 0:21:30for life. I believe that made Harry more driven and determined to make

0:21:30 > 0:21:34it when he left. He has so much belief in himself.

0:21:34 > 0:21:43That comes out even now. First memories back in year seven,

0:21:43 > 0:21:50he was extremely talented player. As a student conhen suss, and not

0:21:50 > 0:21:54just in PE but subjects across the board. He is a very, very dedicated

0:21:54 > 0:22:02boy. The school was invited to open the David Beckham a Academy as he

0:22:02 > 0:22:08was the past student at our school. They asked us to select the top boy

0:22:08 > 0:22:12footballer, Harry was selected. We have a great photograph of two

0:22:12 > 0:22:16England captains from the same school.

0:22:16 > 0:22:22We loved Beckham. At the World Cup. It was Beckham with the mohican. We

0:22:22 > 0:22:31loved it. At the time, he was spotted by Spurs and Watford. Played

0:22:31 > 0:22:34against Spurs, scored a hat-trick, Tottenham decided this was the boy

0:22:34 > 0:22:39for us. .Harry was the first on the pitch and the last to leave the

0:22:39 > 0:22:47training facility. He has the very maximum out of the qualities he had.

0:22:47 > 0:22:55He loved football 24/7. You get to 15, 16, there are girls, drinks,

0:22:55 > 0:22:58partying, Harry would be jogging, running around the park.

0:22:58 > 0:23:04You told him once and he put the messages on board and put the work

0:23:04 > 0:23:11in and he continues to do that now. Our paths cross and he spoke about

0:23:11 > 0:23:15occasions in the previous campaign where he had a left footed

0:23:15 > 0:23:21opportunity and he turned it down, and he's the type that would have

0:23:21 > 0:23:28been probably the following day, gone back out tonne the training

0:23:28 > 0:23:31pitch to practice. Look at the goal he scored at

0:23:31 > 0:23:37Huddersfield. Harry is first class because of his

0:23:37 > 0:23:42genes, and then the person that he is, you have to thank his mum, dad

0:23:42 > 0:23:49and family. He is not only a world-class footballer but a

0:23:49 > 0:23:57world-class human being. On the playing everyone wanted to be

0:23:57 > 0:24:02Harry Kane and now all the kids want to be Harry Kane.

0:24:02 > 0:24:05He is certainly something of a darling.

0:24:05 > 0:24:10It could have been so different. Full back and in goal. Maybe the

0:24:10 > 0:24:14experience on his football journey made him this likeable and

0:24:14 > 0:24:19infectious character. I know that journalists admire and respect him.

0:24:19 > 0:24:24He is a really approachable guy. He is so approachable. Swagger on

0:24:24 > 0:24:28the pitch. Disease the business there but off the pitch so

0:24:28 > 0:24:34unaffected by the position he is in. He is England's leading striker.

0:24:34 > 0:24:40On the pitch you spotted him early, Rob?Yes, I remember seeing him

0:24:40 > 0:24:48scoring some unbelievable goals. I rang Alan Shearer up and I said that

0:24:48 > 0:24:55there was a kid, apart from not being bald, that was the nearest

0:24:55 > 0:25:00thing I had seen to Alan Shearer. I think Alan is worried, as if he

0:25:00 > 0:25:04stays fit and stays in the Premier League, his record is in trouble.

0:25:04 > 0:25:09When it comes to statistics, the Harry Kane numbers stack up well but

0:25:09 > 0:25:15are the statistics and analysis taking over football?

0:25:15 > 0:25:18Matt Forde has found himself living in a world of heat

0:25:18 > 0:25:25maps and expected goals, and he's not entirely happy.

0:25:25 > 0:25:33According to my calculation, Manchester City average 18.9 shots

0:25:33 > 0:25:38per game, 65% possession, oh, God, statistics! I thought that I enjoyed

0:25:38 > 0:25:44football for the reason that everyone else did. Great goals...A

0:25:44 > 0:25:50sensational goal!Breathtaking skill...It was spectacular but not

0:25:50 > 0:25:57going anywhere!I'm ruining these jeans. Meeting in the pub at

0:25:57 > 0:26:0311.00am, and missing the kick-off at 3.30pm. Just me! Statistics take the

0:26:03 > 0:26:08joy out of life. Football like most things does not need to be analysed.

0:26:08 > 0:26:14I want a cup of tea, I don't need to know how long the tea is brewed for,

0:26:14 > 0:26:20the tea leaf quality and the fat in the milk? Well, maybe, as I'm on a

0:26:20 > 0:26:29diet but apart from that, it does not need analysis.

0:26:29 > 0:26:36Forde brings the tea to the counter, poured in the hot water, and now

0:26:36 > 0:26:42look at his face, the milk, is it semi-skimmed? He's not sure, the

0:26:42 > 0:26:49question for me, if he is on a diet, why is he going for the pastries?!

0:26:49 > 0:26:55Now, Forde has gone for the brownie. He is strong, he is well-built. I'm

0:26:55 > 0:26:59happy with that, he doesn't need to go back for more. He does. I'm

0:26:59 > 0:27:04surprised. He told me he was on a diet. He has walked away. Two is

0:27:04 > 0:27:12enough. But he is moonwalking back for a third tart! He didn't need it.

0:27:12 > 0:27:16A moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips.

0:27:16 > 0:27:21The problem is that everyone is an expert. Some people are better at

0:27:21 > 0:27:26crossing the road than others. What is an expected goal sat? I don't

0:27:26 > 0:27:33know. It is the unexpected goals that I care about. Mario Balotelli

0:27:33 > 0:27:41only had one assisted goal in his entire career.It's Sergio Aguero.

0:27:41 > 0:27:46Statistics were invented in 1992. But football got on fine before

0:27:46 > 0:27:53then. Look at Nottingham Forest, the European Cup twice back to back. No

0:27:53 > 0:27:57statistics or analysis then. It's the difference between talking

0:27:57 > 0:28:01about it and discussing it with your mates and arguing about it in the

0:28:01 > 0:28:07pub than being lectured in your home, your armchair, about what you

0:28:07 > 0:28:10should be seeing, thinking, and all of that.

0:28:10 > 0:28:15Spot on, Brian. At relevant today as he ever was.

0:28:15 > 0:28:18I suggest you shut up and show more football.

0:28:18 > 0:28:20I suggest you shut up and show more football.

0:28:20 > 0:28:21Good advice then, good advice now.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24That's all for this week - thank you to Rob and to Simon.

0:28:24 > 0:28:27If you missed anything then don't forget the show

0:28:27 > 0:28:29is available on iPlayer, and next Thursday we'll be

0:28:29 > 0:28:31in the capital for a north London derby special.

0:28:31 > 0:28:34Now, with England playing Germany tomorrow night we thought we'd leave

0:28:34 > 0:28:36you with this tribute to some of the Germans who have

0:28:36 > 0:28:37graced the Premier League.

0:28:37 > 0:28:47So from Newcastle, Auf Wiedersehen pets.

0:28:47 > 0:28:57So from Newcastle, Auf Wiedersehen Pet.

0:28:58 > 0:29:13It's in! It's a ripper! That's fantastic! What a save.