01/11/2015

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:00:29. > :00:38.Joining me this lunchtime - Mark Lawrenson, John Hartson

:00:39. > :00:43.Plenty to get through and you can get involved, too -

:00:44. > :00:51.just use the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media, or text 85058.

:00:52. > :00:58.Here is what is coming up this afternoon: Liverpool's 31 win at

:00:59. > :01:02.Stamford Bridge puts Jose Mourinho's position under huge

:01:03. > :01:08.pressure. Manchester City stayed top after just about seeing off Norwich

:01:09. > :01:11.at the Etihad. Only goal difference separates City and Arsenal who won

:01:12. > :01:15.at Swansea. And what about Leicester, continuing their fairy

:01:16. > :01:19.tale start of the season? Here is what the papers are saying. Mourinho

:01:20. > :01:24.battles the all Blacks for column inches. The Sunday Mirror reports

:01:25. > :01:29.that Mourinho is on the brink after yesterday's defeat. The Sun on

:01:30. > :01:35.Sunday says that he has two more games to save his job. They also say

:01:36. > :01:41.that by Unicom monitoring Harry Kane. The express paper says that he

:01:42. > :01:44.will stay and fight. It would be rude to start anywhere other than

:01:45. > :01:50.Stamford Bridge and that re-1 defeat against Liverpool. He is Jose

:01:51. > :01:55.Mourinho speaking to Guy Mowbray. What are your thoughts on the game?

:01:56. > :02:03.I can't express my feelings. In any way at all? In any way at all. What

:02:04. > :02:06.is the reason for that? I think you are not just here to interview me or

:02:07. > :02:14.other players or other managers. I think you are also here to see the

:02:15. > :02:19.game. I believe that. And I believe you could do that part of your work

:02:20. > :02:23.and let me out of more comments. But in the game itself, it is our job to

:02:24. > :02:30.ask questions about what you see in the game? What I see from my players

:02:31. > :02:36.was good until the moment where they felt it was impossible to do better.

:02:37. > :02:39.I think you are referring to Luca staying on the field. Do you feel

:02:40. > :02:47.unable to speak about things like that? I don't speak. Do use big

:02:48. > :02:51.about what happens next? What do you tell the supporters today? I think

:02:52. > :02:56.they are not stupid. I don't need to tell them anything. They know how

:02:57. > :03:02.much myself and the players are trying. They know how much myself

:03:03. > :03:05.and the players feel sad with the situation. They know why we are

:03:06. > :03:15.getting bad results. They know what is pushing us. Does the fight go on?

:03:16. > :03:22.Of course the fight goes on but sometimes there are fights that are

:03:23. > :03:29.very impossible to win. You go into a fight with different ammunition.

:03:30. > :03:36.There are some fights that you cannot win. Do you feel a bit

:03:37. > :03:42.beating? Enough. Enough. We are not used to seeing you like this. I can

:03:43. > :03:47.play against any team, against any manager, my team can play against

:03:48. > :03:54.any team and win or lose but, er... More than this is difficult. Thanks,

:03:55. > :03:59.Joe say. There we go. A long interview but

:04:00. > :04:05.definitely worth playing in full. Guy Mowbray did well hanging in

:04:06. > :04:11.there. Without belittling Ollie's job, looking at the papers today,

:04:12. > :04:16.everyone is guessing, aren't they? The people have already sacked him.

:04:17. > :04:20.Where do we go? We are guessing because we don't know the mind of

:04:21. > :04:23.Roman Abramovich. Yes, he has fired managers before. I think the only

:04:24. > :04:29.one he said he wished he never had was Ancelotti. There are so many

:04:30. > :04:35.different factors to factor in. They've got a Champions League game

:04:36. > :04:39.on Wednesday. As the saying he only has two games left, someone is just

:04:40. > :04:45.guessing. The next one is Stoke away. If you win on Wednesday at the

:04:46. > :04:47.Champions League, it looks like he is almost guaranteed to get through

:04:48. > :04:52.to the knockout stage. He's not going to win the league anyway, even

:04:53. > :04:55.if they have an unbelievable run, so it is a really difficult one. The

:04:56. > :04:59.great problem for the man in the street is, he's gone from the great

:05:00. > :05:06.winner to the great whinger and we are also looking at him going,

:05:07. > :05:10."Jose, shut up". He is the happy one now. That was his second coming.

:05:11. > :05:14.Everything now is a major deal that yes, Luca could and should have been

:05:15. > :05:23.sent off. Cost could and should have been sent off but get on with it. --

:05:24. > :05:28.Costa. Ollie, does it come down to Roman Abramovich's relationship with

:05:29. > :05:32.Jose now? And we don't know what that is. What has been striking in

:05:33. > :05:36.terms of the difference between the current situation and the situation

:05:37. > :05:44.with Ancelotti, with Scolari, with DiMatteo, there has been a concerted

:05:45. > :05:48.attempt by Chelsea to steer people away from the idea that he is going

:05:49. > :05:52.to be sacked, not particularly over the last few days but generally,

:05:53. > :05:56.there has been a message of, this guy gets more time. That hasn't been

:05:57. > :06:01.the case in the past and it is interesting that they've been doing

:06:02. > :06:04.that and a couple of players a couple of weeks ago spoke up on

:06:05. > :06:10.behalf of Mourinho during the international break but it is very

:06:11. > :06:16.clear speaking to people around the situation that patience is limited,

:06:17. > :06:21.patience is being tested and in terms of the precise timescale, I

:06:22. > :06:23.think it is a question of, do they reach a tipping point? Whether that

:06:24. > :06:31.pinpointed yesterday, it doesn't look like it. -- tipping point is

:06:32. > :06:36.yesterday. I can see this only going one way. My own personal point of

:06:37. > :06:40.view is I think if there is going to be a change at Chelsea, either the

:06:41. > :06:43.manager will be sacked and he will go, whether Abramovich backs the

:06:44. > :06:50.players or whether he backs his manager. We saw it for years and

:06:51. > :06:54.years with Alex Ferguson, 26 years at Old Trafford. He was about to

:06:55. > :07:00.build 34-macro different teams. Carte blanche, his decision. If you

:07:01. > :07:03.look at the way the team are playing, there are too many players

:07:04. > :07:06.underperforming so at this he isn't right in the dressing room. There is

:07:07. > :07:12.talk of mutiny and players not wanting to win for him. How has it

:07:13. > :07:20.come to that? He is leaving players out. He has left them all out. Matic

:07:21. > :07:24.didn't play yesterday. Matic was the best in midfield player last

:07:25. > :07:28.season. Hansard all the awards. He is one the most sought-after players

:07:29. > :07:34.in world football and they are leaving him out. Cost has been

:07:35. > :07:39.nothing but trouble. I think he's got four goals. This is a guy that

:07:40. > :07:45.got 27 goals, 30 goals at this stage last season. I like Costa but not

:07:46. > :07:50.when he isn't scoring goals and he is just out there causing trouble.

:07:51. > :07:57.He should have gone yesterday, for me, when he rigged his studs down

:07:58. > :08:04.another player's chest. It should have been a second yellow card.

:08:05. > :08:08.There is no argument over that. He is looking straight at it. He has to

:08:09. > :08:13.send him off. Why he doesn't, I don't know. What is the real touring

:08:14. > :08:15.about the whole thing -- Boro will touring about the whole thing is

:08:16. > :08:20.that they've gone from the Premier League last year and the off-season,

:08:21. > :08:25.and they've gone just completely fallen like a stone. They came back

:08:26. > :08:31.late. Arguably, they've improved the squad. Terry has got a bit older,

:08:32. > :08:36.Jose's dad has been ill and we wish him well but these are all just

:08:37. > :08:45.excuses, really? The other problem he's got is that so many of them are

:08:46. > :08:50.playing cruelly. -- Pru Leith. I think that the reason they won the

:08:51. > :08:53.league was that they were so difficult to beat. They were the

:08:54. > :09:01.team last year, and I think this is how you win the league, is when you

:09:02. > :09:03.play poorly and win. When you were playing at Liverpool side,

:09:04. > :09:09.consistently winning titles and trophies, can you go from being

:09:10. > :09:14.there to not challenging and finishing second or third but

:09:15. > :09:19.actually dropping to mid-table? It didn't happen for us but you can Lee

:09:20. > :09:22.Spick of your own experience. But that's why everyone else is looking

:09:23. > :09:28.for something else and the first thing you look at is the manager. It

:09:29. > :09:33.is relegation form. The other thing is, that quote this morning where

:09:34. > :09:37.one of the player said, I'd rather lose for him than win for him, it is

:09:38. > :09:41.somebody who has been dropped a view times, I would suggest, but you

:09:42. > :09:44.always get that in football teams. The ones who don't like the manager

:09:45. > :09:51.are the ones who aren't playing. But the problem is now everything points

:09:52. > :09:54.at Jose. How does he turn it round? We saw him after the early kick-off

:09:55. > :10:01.yesterday, out in the centre circle with all his staff, which is a show

:10:02. > :10:06.of... Well, there we go. We can see him out on the pitch. Where does he

:10:07. > :10:08.go from here? That can't be a private conversation because you can

:10:09. > :10:19.let breed. He knows the cameras are on him. It was like the tactics for

:10:20. > :10:23.the New Zealand rugby final. As he was saying, you guys, ie us guys,

:10:24. > :10:33.have always criticised Abramovich in the past for sticking with managers.

:10:34. > :10:37.-- not sticking. I think it is time that Abramovich stuck with a manager

:10:38. > :10:45.long-term but is Mourinho the guy that is a long-term job, I don't

:10:46. > :10:48.know. Players who have run through brick walls for him in the past seem

:10:49. > :10:54.to stop running through brick walls for him. I think Murray knew would

:10:55. > :11:01.consider it it in terms of a long-term job now because he is a

:11:02. > :11:06.Chelsea. -- Mourinho would consider. It is all well and good saying that

:11:07. > :11:10.but when the fans turn, does he have another legendary status to keep

:11:11. > :11:16.getting these results? They will turn, when they? I'm not sure if

:11:17. > :11:21.they will. Is that not a matter of time? Well, if he keeps losing,

:11:22. > :11:25.eventually he will get the sack but that's only if he keeps losing. It

:11:26. > :11:29.is just an unbelievably strange situation to be in and I hate that

:11:30. > :11:35.thing when they say, he has lost the dressing room. As Lee was saying,

:11:36. > :11:40.last year and the two previous years, they have been brilliant for

:11:41. > :11:44.him, these players. What is the sign of a good manager? Not just winning

:11:45. > :11:49.trophies but improving players and now it is the complete opposite. It

:11:50. > :11:54.is Jose and we don't really know... It is like he has just self

:11:55. > :11:58.combusted. A real strange one. How long has he got left, in a short

:11:59. > :12:04.sentence? I think he will be there at the end of the season. I would

:12:05. > :12:12.say a few weeks. You must know more than the rest of us! I think they'll

:12:13. > :12:18.stay with him. Even if this pool run carries an... Who do you get?

:12:19. > :12:26.Exactly. I think they will stick with him. If Klopp was still

:12:27. > :12:30.available, that would probably be an appealing contingency plan.

:12:31. > :12:34.We will hear from Jurgen Klopp in a couple of errors. If you are

:12:35. > :12:39.watching on BBC Two, we also want Radio 5 live today and it is the

:12:40. > :12:49.first day of the decisive test. Two quick wickets. 190 647. A fiercely

:12:50. > :12:56.spinning delivery after Sarfraz Ahmed went, ending a 90 run

:12:57. > :13:01.partnership. Moeen Ali got caught at the mid-wicket boundary. In the same

:13:02. > :13:06.over, England reviewed and LBW shout. Some worrying news for

:13:07. > :13:10.England - Ben Stokes off the field. He fell heavily on his right

:13:11. > :13:14.shoulder attempting a catch and left the field in a sling. Not good signs

:13:15. > :13:22.for England but good signs in terms of the match situation. 200 up now

:13:23. > :13:27.for Pakistan, for seven. We talked about Jurgen Klopp - first

:13:28. > :13:32.win in the Premier League Liverpool. He was asked, Liverpool title

:13:33. > :13:35.contenders? Listen to this. Considering this win today and

:13:36. > :13:38.considering that you are going to play Man City in two weeks, do you

:13:39. > :13:44.think you are ready to fight for the league? To fight for what? For

:13:45. > :13:56.winning the league. Oh, please! Are you crazy? I don't understand the

:13:57. > :14:01.question. Please. In three weeks? Roundabout? Everybody should win the

:14:02. > :14:06.league. All the others have had pressure the whole year. Do you

:14:07. > :14:11.think after one win we should think about this? There is the answer to

:14:12. > :14:16.that. Jurgen Klopp unbeaten and he said all the way at the beginning

:14:17. > :14:19.that it was about the progression. You got those three consecutive

:14:20. > :14:22.draws but we were both at Bournemouth on Wednesday night and

:14:23. > :14:25.saw the progression but they have gone up another gear. That's right.

:14:26. > :14:29.He is talking about winning the league but I think certainly top

:14:30. > :14:33.four. If they can get Sturridge and Ben techie playing together, what a

:14:34. > :14:42.frightening thought for defenders. There was progress on Wednesday.

:14:43. > :14:48.There were a couple of chances. There are some big names there that

:14:49. > :14:52.he can afford to leave out in the week, like Milner and Alana and

:14:53. > :14:56.these types of people, and bring them back in like he did yesterday.

:14:57. > :14:59.He has options for top he is still without Henderson but I think there

:15:00. > :15:03.has been progress at Liverpool since he's been there. His biggest job is

:15:04. > :15:11.getting Sturridge fit because we are talking Lazarus. Who knows when he's

:15:12. > :15:14.going to be fit? You were at Stamford Bridge yesterday. The chat

:15:15. > :15:19.on Merseyside - how well are they taking to him?

:15:20. > :15:25.They have really taken to him. He gets the club and he gets the

:15:26. > :15:31.history. It isn't about him, it is about the side. He has got them

:15:32. > :15:35.playing well. They are pressing the opposition. They kept the ball well

:15:36. > :15:41.for the first 40 minutes, but they never looked like scoring. The goal

:15:42. > :15:44.before first -- before half-time was the big moment. Completely

:15:45. > :15:53.shell-shocked Chelsea. The other thing, if he were the manager, you

:15:54. > :15:57.would want to play for him. You really seriously would, because you

:15:58. > :16:04.just get him. Let's talk about Manchester city, a 2-1 win against

:16:05. > :16:10.Norwich. City went ahead through Otamendi. An absolute howler from

:16:11. > :16:15.Joe Hart. The mistakes are magnified with goalkeepers. Yes. It is

:16:16. > :16:19.difficult to criticise Joe Hart, one of the best goalkeepers in the

:16:20. > :16:25.world. It was a genuine mistake. He took his eye off the ball. The one

:16:26. > :16:32.good thing about City is when they conceded in the 80th minute, to make

:16:33. > :16:42.it 1-1 - Rooney and header from Otamendi, by the way. What a header!

:16:43. > :16:46.With city, they are the type of team with De Bruyne and Sterling and

:16:47. > :16:53.Toure, no aquarium at the moment, but Bony back in form. -- no

:16:54. > :16:58.aquarium. City keep going and they never know when they are beaten.

:16:59. > :17:02.They keep going until the very last second. Kolarov missed a penalty as

:17:03. > :17:12.well, but they got over the line again. Is this the problem? When

:17:13. > :17:20.Aguero and Silva are not fit, City never seem to be fully at it. They

:17:21. > :17:23.are never at that level. Take the top two players of any team in the

:17:24. > :17:32.Premier League, and they will never be the same. It is a problem, but I

:17:33. > :17:36.think that victories like yesterday, not playing particularly

:17:37. > :17:41.well and winning the game, is massive if you are going to win the

:17:42. > :17:46.league. By the way, this league this year is going to be the easiest one.

:17:47. > :17:52.No one wants to win it at moment. Everyone thinks they have the chance

:17:53. > :17:59.of doing so. Bony was getting a bit of stick from City fans. But we

:18:00. > :18:03.cannot all be Sergio Aguero. I did not get a great sense of him getting

:18:04. > :18:09.stick. Maybe on message boards and Twitter and the like. Inside big aim

:18:10. > :18:17.there was no real sense of that. But it is a big step down from Aguero to

:18:18. > :18:23.Bony. Like it was from Aguero Balotelli. You have to be good

:18:24. > :18:29.enough to carry the team. He have to carry it forward in the absence of

:18:30. > :18:36.Aguero. We all know that he can win games. Bony is a player, and he is

:18:37. > :18:41.brilliant for the likes of Silva or Sterling, to play them little balls

:18:42. > :18:47.around the corner. He will hold the ball up for you, perfect for them to

:18:48. > :18:52.play little 1-2 is all around him. Very unselfish. When he gets a run,

:18:53. > :18:59.when he feels confident... That is the key. If he was playing every

:19:00. > :19:05.week... When he gets that manacled, he is number one. He knew the

:19:06. > :19:09.situation when he went to City. ?20 million, it was a no-brainer.

:19:10. > :19:18.Onesie. They paid ?12 million for him. But I would stick with this

:19:19. > :19:23.one. He is a player. He has such a big frame, he only gets his fitness

:19:24. > :19:29.from playing games. If he is in and out all the time, he will never be

:19:30. > :19:36.fit. Our City title winners? I would say so. Looking at it at the

:19:37. > :19:47.moment, I would say City and Arsenal one and two. I see City and Arsenal

:19:48. > :19:54.being some way ahead of the rest. City expect to win. Arsenal don't.

:19:55. > :19:59.Chelsea are out of it now. Liverpool, top four would be happy.

:20:00. > :20:10.For City, it would be a major disappointed if they do not win. He

:20:11. > :20:17.is the Arsenal manager. I think they took six points off us last year.

:20:18. > :20:22.Good first half. We found our rhythm, our pace, our decisiveness

:20:23. > :20:28.in the second half. It was a different team. After the first

:20:29. > :20:31.goal, it was all us, and after that there was only one winner on the

:20:32. > :20:36.pitch. Olivier Giroud has responded very well over the last few games to

:20:37. > :20:41.questions that have been asked of him. Of course. That is what you

:20:42. > :20:46.want. The less we talk and the more we play, and the better we play,

:20:47. > :20:55.that is our real job. That's what he does. I cannot believe I'm going to

:20:56. > :21:00.ask this question! Are Arsenal title contenders again, and they have a

:21:01. > :21:08.season where they start really well and then, like last season, they do

:21:09. > :21:16.not start well. Have they got enough? This is a great season for

:21:17. > :21:21.them to win it. They have so many attacking options. And the way that

:21:22. > :21:26.the league is so open. The problem with Arsenal is they will always let

:21:27. > :21:29.you down. And they will always have eight players injured. When you look

:21:30. > :21:36.at them and they go on these fantastic runs, we are all waiting

:21:37. > :21:41.to these fantastic results, but then they lose at West Brom or Stoke.

:21:42. > :21:47.This is their best opportunity to win it. Seven wins in eight. You

:21:48. > :21:52.sense a different arson being now, and a distant -- a different Mesut

:21:53. > :21:59.Ozil. Man of the Match yesterday. We have also seen shades of grey. His

:22:00. > :22:05.second season was a little bit better. He has kicked on this

:22:06. > :22:10.season, and is beginning to influence games. Not in the way he

:22:11. > :22:15.was at Real Madrid author Germany, but we are seeing him as a guy who

:22:16. > :22:21.will turn matches, win matches at times. He didn't do that often

:22:22. > :22:26.enough last season. I look at Arsenal and think they are a team

:22:27. > :22:31.who are going to get more than 80 points for the first time in a long

:22:32. > :22:36.time. Manchester City have got higher, potentially, and it is just

:22:37. > :22:43.a case of whether Man City performs as they can do, or whether they fall

:22:44. > :22:48.short of that. Arsenal could be out of the Champions League. They are

:22:49. > :22:54.out of the Capital One Cup, and City are not. Joel Campbell, goal in his

:22:55. > :23:02.first Premier League game with the striker hat on. He didn't do a lot

:23:03. > :23:06.in the first half, simply because he was helping out Bellerin for most of

:23:07. > :23:12.the game, because Montero was a real threat. That was a good battle

:23:13. > :23:17.yesterday. Campbell had to do a lot of his work defending and getting

:23:18. > :23:20.back, which he did very well. Once Arsenal got the lead in the second

:23:21. > :23:28.half, he started to play with a bit more confidence and got his goal. I

:23:29. > :23:31.think Arsenal are potentially two players away from really

:23:32. > :23:39.challenging. City are the team to beat. They have been there for the

:23:40. > :23:47.last few seasons. Every team is two players away! You wonder what they

:23:48. > :23:54.would do without Giroud or Wolcott. Yesterday with Mertesacker at times,

:23:55. > :24:00.he came wants to the ball, and he left Koscielny on his own way Gomez

:24:01. > :24:05.went off him and held his line. Gomez should have put Swansea in

:24:06. > :24:09.front in the first half, one on one with Cech. Mertesacker had a

:24:10. > :24:14.handball in the first half that should have been a Swansea penalty.

:24:15. > :24:20.I think Mertesacker is the weak link, and I think a centre-back and

:24:21. > :24:27.a top striker, and Arsenal could really contend this. Two games

:24:28. > :24:31.today. Everton against Sunderland. Everton do have room for improvement

:24:32. > :24:34.with only one win in the Premier League, and they make three changes

:24:35. > :24:44.from the defeat at Arsenal in their last outing. Tim Howard stays in,

:24:45. > :24:48.despite the performance on choose day, and Seamus Coleman has

:24:49. > :24:53.recovered from his illness. Sunderland have won here twice three

:24:54. > :24:57.Summly. They like coming to Goodison. Sam Allardyce makes four

:24:58. > :25:09.changes from the North East derby, mainly due to injury. O Shea, Kaboul

:25:10. > :25:15.and Toivonen are out. That kicks off at Goodison at 1:30pm. Is big Sam

:25:16. > :25:27.going to keep Sunderland up? No. Yes. No. Why? I think he needs to

:25:28. > :25:32.make some of those average players into good players this season. He

:25:33. > :25:36.needs to get performance out of them. I like the way that

:25:37. > :25:42.differential O is back in the team today. There's goals there. I think

:25:43. > :25:47.it will be a struggle. They have only won the one game, the Derby

:25:48. > :25:51.last weekend. Sam would not have had to build the players up for that

:25:52. > :26:00.one. Games like today are going to be difficult. I just think that if

:26:01. > :26:07.anybody is going to do it it will be Sam, but I cannot see it this year.

:26:08. > :26:15.Lawro, if you are a Sunderland fan, is this more short-term... Is it

:26:16. > :26:26.more short term play from Sunderland? They have not had an

:26:27. > :26:29.Allardyce before. It is like Tony Pulis. It doesn't guarantee that you

:26:30. > :26:35.will stay in the league, but it gives you one hell of a chance of

:26:36. > :26:40.staying. Every single game is completely different. He will get

:26:41. > :26:45.them sorted defensively. It will depend on what kind of business he

:26:46. > :26:50.will be able to do in January, if any. Shortly before he took the

:26:51. > :26:55.job, a major conversation was, we are not good enough, we need to

:26:56. > :26:59.change the team out in January, so help me. Otherwise he will miss out

:27:00. > :27:04.on a pot of gold next year. Would you not give him 30 or ?40 million

:27:05. > :27:14.to get the pot of gold back next season? A point down against Stoke.

:27:15. > :27:19.Your thoughts on that, Steve McClaren after the Derby? Newcastle

:27:20. > :27:27.reporter. It was that fantastic result against Norwich at home. That

:27:28. > :27:34.sticks out as a one-off. They are in trouble unless they improve. It

:27:35. > :27:38.follows years of underinvestment, the money they spent this summer.

:27:39. > :27:42.They cannot turn the tap on and expect all the malaise of the last

:27:43. > :27:48.few years to be lifted. Newcastle probably should have won. You would

:27:49. > :27:55.argue that the first 44 minutes at Sunderland, they were by far the

:27:56. > :28:03.better team. He has got a few players, but he has to turn them to

:28:04. > :28:08.regular, consistent performers. In the last few games they have played

:28:09. > :28:11.well, and they look a better side. It is just that little bit of luck

:28:12. > :28:19.as well, that you need when you get down there. Can McClaren bring that

:28:20. > :28:24.luck? I'm sure he can. He has vast experience. He came close at Derby.

:28:25. > :28:31.They lost in the play-off final in the last minute to QPR. Again, that

:28:32. > :28:36.little bit of luck, big moments in big games. He managed England, he

:28:37. > :28:42.has been successful in Germany, so I am sure he can do it. Newcastle have

:28:43. > :28:49.Bournemouth next, who play Southampton today. You have to feel

:28:50. > :28:55.for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth. Injury after injury. Slipping and

:28:56. > :29:02.sliding down the table. In all honesty, Wilson, Mings, Elphick...

:29:03. > :29:06.To stay in the league, they all had to be fit and playing well. No

:29:07. > :29:12.chance for them now, I don't think. Eddie is not going to change the way

:29:13. > :29:15.he plays. They were always going to concede goals anyway because of the

:29:16. > :29:19.way they are, and they are quite open. Now, they are not going to be

:29:20. > :29:27.able to score goals, because the better players are not playing. I

:29:28. > :29:30.just don't see it. They have been unbelievably unluckily, with the

:29:31. > :29:34.personnel who have been injured. If you come up from the Championship

:29:35. > :29:38.into the Premier League, we all think, who is going to score the

:29:39. > :29:44.goals to keep them in? You would think players like Wilson, but I

:29:45. > :29:49.just don't see it. The other night, we were both there, and Bournemouth

:29:50. > :29:55.did quite well. They were unlucky not to go in front. Bob damned came

:29:56. > :29:59.in from injury, and a lot of people think he is very good. Got a game

:30:00. > :30:05.the other night. Stanislas for Bournemouth, kept them out two or

:30:06. > :30:10.three times. Real top-class saves, which kept Liverpool in it.

:30:11. > :30:18.Let's talk about Aston Villa because they go to Spurs on Monday night.

:30:19. > :30:21.Remi Garde - tell me all about it. I was with him at Arsenal as a young

:30:22. > :30:26.lad. Arsenal Wenger brought him in as a player. I don't know him that

:30:27. > :30:35.well, to be honest. Would it be the right fit? Look at Lyon. He won the

:30:36. > :30:43.French cup. He was the Spanish guy that came into West Brom? It is a

:30:44. > :30:49.call. It stinks of that? I'm not sure if stinks is the right word but

:30:50. > :30:53.it is very similar. Not managed in the Premier League, not as good a

:30:54. > :31:06.side as they were last year. Losing Ben Teck, etc, that is a gamble.

:31:07. > :31:10.That is a serious gamble. You are gambling with your Premier League

:31:11. > :31:18.future, just as we said about 110, 120 million. Who do you go for?

:31:19. > :31:27.David Moyes. Would he take it? Possibly. Possibly. Your smile tells

:31:28. > :31:32.a million words. They have got a to associate out and are doing well

:31:33. > :31:36.there. I think he has cleared his rain of all the Manchester United

:31:37. > :31:42.stuff and he will come back at some stage. Whether he would take it is a

:31:43. > :31:45.different kettle of fish but why would you not want a proven

:31:46. > :31:50.Premiership manager? Why would you want to take a chance on a man who

:31:51. > :31:55.has never managed in the Premier League. Would Brendan consider that?

:31:56. > :31:59.I think he would snap your hand off. I'll get Aston Villa and it should

:32:00. > :32:04.be one of the most appealing jobs in the country, the sleeping giant

:32:05. > :32:08.thing is overplayed sometimes but they are very big club who just need

:32:09. > :32:12.somebody to get hold of them. I just don't see it as an appealing job at

:32:13. > :32:16.the moment. The one thing I think the new manager there would have to

:32:17. > :32:18.do - I don't think there is an awful lot of money to spend. He will have

:32:19. > :32:22.to work with this current crop of players stop look at the turnover of

:32:23. > :32:29.players. Maybe that is the problem. Something like 16 players out of the

:32:30. > :32:31.door. There isn't the money but he would have to make the money

:32:32. > :32:38.available because he is going to lose out on 120 million. Why

:32:39. > :32:47.wouldn't you spend 42 get 120? It is an absolute no-brainer. I think

:32:48. > :32:50.clubs that are up for sale... It is very rare that a club that is up for

:32:51. > :32:56.sale looks healthy and like it is going the right direction. It is

:32:57. > :33:00.drifting and waiting to be... Those clubs that drift tend to drift

:33:01. > :33:04.backwards, if anything, and what I said about Newcastle earlier, the

:33:05. > :33:10.malaise, the way that stillness sets in... Look at them the last five

:33:11. > :33:14.seasons. Lots of young players but they have still got Michael riches

:33:15. > :33:17.and another experienced player. They don't score goals, which is

:33:18. > :33:22.important for top there has been another wicket in the cricket.

:33:23. > :33:26.Yes, this leg-spinner is out for seven. A second wicket to Stuart

:33:27. > :33:35.Broad who has got remarkable figures now. He has bowled 11.5 overs, two

:33:36. > :33:38.45. It would record by the tell of a short ball but the captain still

:33:39. > :33:45.going strong. It could be his last test match. He is on 71. The

:33:46. > :33:50.Pakistan score now two to 4-8. Let's talk about Manchester United.

:33:51. > :33:54.But Selhurst Park yesterday, a goalless draw full top let's hear

:33:55. > :33:59.from Alan Pardew and Louis van Hal. We have been excellent. We have lost

:34:00. > :34:03.games went with a bit of luck we would have had more points than we

:34:04. > :34:09.have but that happens. We are hitting teams in good form. We had

:34:10. > :34:14.to play West Ham, we had to play list in good form. It doesn't always

:34:15. > :34:17.work like that. We are going to stumble on teams who aren't in good

:34:18. > :34:21.form and that will increase our points total but I'm very pleased

:34:22. > :34:24.with where we are. In the end you only need one shot on target

:34:25. > :34:29.according to the statistics, which is great. No, of course not but I

:34:30. > :34:33.have already explained, when you don't give the ball you cannot

:34:34. > :34:36.create chances. Do you sense frustration among supporters saying

:34:37. > :34:44.attack, attack, we honour to stay united, we should be doing more? I

:34:45. > :34:49.can imagine. You play for defence and Crystal Palace was more pushing

:34:50. > :34:56.than we could do. And then you can expect it. In terms of scoring, what

:34:57. > :35:00.can you do? The confidence is there? You think it is just a question of

:35:01. > :35:05.being there at the right place and scoring? I hope so.

:35:06. > :35:12.Louis van Gaal and Alan Pardew there. My guests are still with me

:35:13. > :35:19.in the studio. No goal in five hours now. Three consecutive goalless

:35:20. > :35:25.draws. The first time since 2005 that has happened. The criticism

:35:26. > :35:28.will be the style and it is a very difficult thing because if you are a

:35:29. > :35:32.Manchester United supporter, what do you want? Would you accept winning

:35:33. > :35:39.the league playing that way, or do you want to go back to everybody,

:35:40. > :35:43.wingers, pace, creating loads of chances, scoring loads of goals? I

:35:44. > :35:46.think they just want to go back to Sir Alex Ferguson winning

:35:47. > :35:50.everything. Very good answer but it doesn't help me. The thing with van

:35:51. > :35:55.Gaal, it isn't going to change. That's the way he plays. Marshall

:35:56. > :36:03.has got to play through the middle. He is lightning quick. -- and he

:36:04. > :36:09.will play Rooney in behind him and he will supply him with everything

:36:10. > :36:14.he needs but it is just so slow. They went sideways. They do go

:36:15. > :36:18.sideways but the problem with going sideways is that you don't allow the

:36:19. > :36:23.opposition to get in their shape and it is like, come on, then, come and

:36:24. > :36:29.beat us. If they got somebody up front who is rapidly on belief, you

:36:30. > :36:35.are going to win more games. What about Louis van Gaal's army. They

:36:36. > :36:41.were shouting "attack, attack, and they are maybe frustrated, trying to

:36:42. > :36:44.tell him they don't like it. They don't like it. Manchester United

:36:45. > :36:47.fans are loyal to the core and they will support the club at rain Rooney

:36:48. > :36:53.started the game yesterday as that number nine, the lone striker. He is

:36:54. > :37:00.not dynamic any more. Rain is going to finish his career and is only 13

:37:01. > :37:07.goals behind Bobby Charlton. I think he is at 236. For me now, Wayne has

:37:08. > :37:11.still got the brain and the intelligence to play in behind the

:37:12. > :37:16.striker to get on the half term, to go and play in the little holes, and

:37:17. > :37:20.he's got the ability and the cleverness to play players through.

:37:21. > :37:24.That is where he can play. He can still get goals. He can't play out

:37:25. > :37:31.on the left. He can't do the shift. He hasn't got the legs. He doesn't

:37:32. > :37:35.want to play there either. When you are a number nine, you've got three

:37:36. > :37:38.or four different roles. Every now and again you've got to go down the

:37:39. > :37:42.side, you've got to be that target, you've got to get across it and get

:37:43. > :37:46.yourself goals. In that Number Ten, it is like a luxury. You can get the

:37:47. > :37:51.ball where you want the ball when you play-off the striker. You always

:37:52. > :37:54.make yourself available for the midfielders, for the defenders, and

:37:55. > :37:59.that is where, like Lawro, I think Wayne has to play to be most

:38:00. > :38:03.effective. And he's got such a great appetite for playing. He's been

:38:04. > :38:08.brilliant. He can do the defensive stuff and everything. I don't

:38:09. > :38:13.understand. We can all see Martial, Rooney. What is the problem. What

:38:14. > :38:18.about Paul Scholes? He said you would want to play in this team. You

:38:19. > :38:23.can't play him. They never replaced. He said this week that he wouldn't

:38:24. > :38:26.want to play in this team. I would much rather watch that team with

:38:27. > :38:30.Paul Scholes in it now because there is no invention in the team. You got

:38:31. > :38:36.inventive players like Wayne Rooney and Juan Mata and Martial. But they

:38:37. > :38:42.only ever seem to attack with four players. We are saying this again

:38:43. > :38:50.and again. No shots in on target in the first half. The midfielders and

:38:51. > :38:55.full-backs very rarely get forward and it is all so slow. It looks

:38:56. > :39:03.deliberate and one of the things that Ed Woodward said when they were

:39:04. > :39:05.winning, Manchester United, everybody knows what kind of

:39:06. > :39:10.football he plays, the wonderful football he played with Barcelona in

:39:11. > :39:14.the 1990s. Anyone who has looked seriously at van Gaal's career knows

:39:15. > :39:18.that that hasn't really been his style over the last decade. He has

:39:19. > :39:20.been more functional and I don't know whether Manchester United knew

:39:21. > :39:25.what they were getting because it seemed like a boardroom

:39:26. > :39:30.appointments. Why is Jamie Vardy such a good player? We will talk

:39:31. > :39:38.about him in a minute. It is that pace. We will get on to him later. I

:39:39. > :39:41.would play Rooney as well. The point I'm trying to make is, because he's

:39:42. > :39:48.got lightning pace he must be horrible to play against. Martial is

:39:49. > :39:52.as quick as him if not quicker but the insistence is, play him on the

:39:53. > :39:59.left. I just don't get it. Another wicket in the cricket. Another

:40:00. > :40:02.wicket and a big one. The Pakistan captain has gone off the bat of Joe

:40:03. > :40:12.Root, who now has figures of three for 15. We have six overs left Balta

:40:13. > :40:21.night. Pakistan are 226-9. Just time to squeeze in last

:40:22. > :40:24.night's game at Leicester. Now eight consecutive Premier League

:40:25. > :40:30.games that Jamie Vardy has scored in. By Mr Roy's record is ten. He is

:40:31. > :40:37.getting closer. It is important but he continues to play for the team

:40:38. > :40:43.also. He works very hard and scoring goals is OK for him, for us, for the

:40:44. > :40:47.record. Is it good for everybody? You took them out for Peter to

:40:48. > :40:53.celebrate last week was what is the celebration this town? Nothing. We

:40:54. > :41:01.concede a goal. You are a hard man. We change, maybe. Thank you.

:41:02. > :41:05.John, I'm not sure what cloudier Ranieri's is thinking on those

:41:06. > :41:13.pizzas but it is working for top -- cloudier. It is his energy and his

:41:14. > :41:22.pace, never mind his ability to finish when he gets the ball. Eight

:41:23. > :41:27.in a row. I think there are a couple of unsung heroes in there. Mark

:41:28. > :41:34.Albright is one of them. He plays wide and switches quite a lot,

:41:35. > :41:42.switches sides. Yesterday two goals. One winning cup side and

:41:43. > :41:52.floated in swinging ball. People are talking about Mahrez and Fardy. Pace

:41:53. > :41:55.is a killer. It isn't just pace. They've got with. Mahrez and

:41:56. > :42:02.Albright. They even had it yesterday. Vardy is the key to it

:42:03. > :42:06.and they basically set the team up thinking, how can we get the best

:42:07. > :42:11.out of it? And it is him. That is all designed for him. That goes back

:42:12. > :42:16.to the Manchester United point. Why don't you do the same with Martial?

:42:17. > :42:22.We talk about pace and wits but what about the spirit? They often two

:42:23. > :42:26.goals behind in games and they keep winning. It is absolutely

:42:27. > :42:33.astounding. A lot of people had them down to be relegated. It is just

:42:34. > :42:39.astonishing. The carry-over from last season, the finish was just...

:42:40. > :42:47.They just kept going. And you said that when we were listening to

:42:48. > :42:49.Ranieri. He is just infectious when you listen to his interviews. Does

:42:50. > :42:56.that mean you shouldn't go near him? I would go near him. He seems

:42:57. > :43:07.like a decent chap. He is happy in his job. You can see it in his face.

:43:08. > :43:11.Why wouldn't you be? You look at Mahrez and he looks like a

:43:12. > :43:15.player... He is a completely different player. Wasn't it a

:43:16. > :43:19.classic case where the Scout went to watch somebody else and saw him and

:43:20. > :43:26.thought, he's not bad, I'll make a note? He has been almost as good as

:43:27. > :43:30.Vardy but it isn't just them. Schmeichel is an outstanding

:43:31. > :43:36.goalkeeper and the left-back bombs on and I love the way they go, they

:43:37. > :43:42.are not frightened of anyone. They say, we will take you on and play

:43:43. > :43:50.you. Go a goal down? Not a problem. We can always score. No nonsense.

:43:51. > :43:56.Just offend the goal. That's all from us. You can get updates from

:43:57. > :44:00.Goodison Park on Radio 5 live. Sunday Morning Live tonight at 10pm

:44:01. > :44:03.with Jason Mohammad. Enjoy your Sunday. See you later.