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:00:26. > :00:51.Extracts Mac extra! Extra! Cheers, mate.

:00:51. > :00:58.Hello, welcome to Match Of The Day 2 Extra across BBC One and BBC Radio

:00:58. > :01:05.Five Live and the BBC website. We want your thoughts in the next 45

:01:05. > :01:12.minutes. Lots to discuss. You can text us, you can also tweet us. In

:01:12. > :01:16.the next 45 minutes, we look back at the fixtures yesterday including the

:01:16. > :01:19.new boy wonder at Manchester United. There are four games today, we were

:01:19. > :01:26.really hearing from Arsene Wenger, we will also preview today's games

:01:26. > :01:28.and we will be listening to Jose Mourinho talking about diving. We

:01:28. > :01:33.want your thoughts on England's Mourinho talking about diving. We

:01:33. > :01:37.crucial week. Will they achieve automatic World Cup qualification?

:01:37. > :01:51.We would like you to vote on the BBC sport website or also tweet us will

:01:51. > :01:55.stop -- tweet us. There is a policy that involves as the King guests

:01:55. > :01:59.with the first name or a variation of the first name, we have John

:01:59. > :02:03.Hartson, John Murray and Thomas North Croft from the Sunday Times,

:02:03. > :02:05.which could make it confusing! Liverpool went back to the top of

:02:05. > :02:12.the table yesterday? Yes, this is Liverpool went back to the top of

:02:12. > :02:18.important for this season for them to be making progress. They are not

:02:18. > :02:21.title contenders but they want to be part of the conversation. They are

:02:21. > :02:27.not winning the easier games at home. It was three - zero at

:02:27. > :02:34.half-time, Sturridge and Suarez were fantastic together. They are trying

:02:34. > :02:39.to take themselves for word. John Murray, it feels like every game, we

:02:39. > :02:42.are analysing it like it is crucial, whether it is Fulham, Newcastle

:02:42. > :02:50.winning at Cardiff, we are seven games in, and everything is crucial.

:02:50. > :02:57.We are talking about the top four, I still have six finishing in my top

:02:57. > :03:02.four! We need to sort that out! We were at Manchester City yesterday,

:03:02. > :03:06.it was like a back in the saddle kind of performance, a back in the

:03:06. > :03:10.saddle kind of win after what happened at Bayern Munich. But

:03:10. > :03:19.looking at that table, looking that they have won four out of four in

:03:19. > :03:21.the league, at home, that could go a long way, that home form, it could

:03:21. > :03:28.go towards them being in contention for the title this season. Do you

:03:28. > :03:35.think it is ridiculous that everything is crucial after seven

:03:35. > :03:39.games? Yes, I think it is. People say now you are only two or three

:03:39. > :03:44.games away from talking about getting the sack, but at times it

:03:44. > :03:47.gets ridiculous. Personally I do not look at the table until Christmas

:03:47. > :03:56.time when we are at the business time.

:03:56. > :04:04.club, Arsenal playing today at West Brom, these are the thoughts of

:04:04. > :04:10.Arsene Wenger. We do not look too much at the fact if it is a or at

:04:10. > :04:16.home. We play with the same desire and the same attitude. West Brom

:04:16. > :04:20.will present us with a good test, because they are coming off the back

:04:20. > :04:24.of an outstanding result at Manchester United, so their

:04:24. > :04:27.confidence level is high. It would be an interesting test for us. It is

:04:27. > :04:33.important that we continue to do better. There is more to come from

:04:33. > :04:43.us, but it will depend now on how much we wanted and how hungry we are

:04:43. > :04:47.to continue to improve. What is the main difference this season to the

:04:47. > :04:53.last season, or is there a difference, because they ended last

:04:53. > :04:57.season well? Yes, there is a difference, they have a lift, you

:04:57. > :05:02.talk about players like Jack Wilshere, and all the talk about to

:05:02. > :05:05.play with him, now it is all about who will play with Ramsey. Jack

:05:05. > :05:11.Wilshere has been pushed out to the left. They are having a fantastic

:05:11. > :05:18.run of form. You wonder if anything will happen to Olivier Joe Root, do

:05:18. > :05:23.they have some to come in? They are playing with great confidence, and

:05:23. > :05:28.as they will tell you, winning games breeds a good spirit. You only get

:05:28. > :05:32.good, proper spirit when you are winning. At Arsenal have a great

:05:32. > :05:43.group of players and they look very spirited and as you can see, they

:05:43. > :05:44.are on a fantastic run. Their confidence has been coming for a

:05:44. > :05:47.while. They finished last season confidence has been coming for a

:05:47. > :05:49.very well. Their form has been great since the New Year. I thought they

:05:49. > :05:52.very well. Their form has been great would do well this season because

:05:52. > :05:58.they crucially did not lose anybody this summer, and they have got a

:05:58. > :06:04.winning formula. The injuries might get them over the longer term, but

:06:04. > :06:11.at the moment, eight wins out of aid away from home. I think Arsene

:06:11. > :06:21.Wenger agreed with the group that he had. I wanted a lot more signings. I

:06:21. > :06:24.know they tried for Suarez, but in the end, Arsene Wenger seemed

:06:24. > :06:31.content with only bringing into players. And look where they are?

:06:31. > :06:35.They have got a good group of players when they get it together.

:06:35. > :06:41.In one of his interviews, John Murray, he spoke about the win at

:06:41. > :06:46.Bayern Munich last season. He said that it was the game, they went out

:06:46. > :06:54.in the tie, but he said it was the game in which all of a sudden, the

:06:54. > :07:00.belief change, the morale changed. Yes, I was there for that match, and

:07:00. > :07:04.we had kind of written it off. I remember the pressure that Arsene

:07:04. > :07:07.Wenger was under because of what happened in the first leg against

:07:07. > :07:12.Bayern Munich, and funnily enough, we drew parallels when we went to

:07:12. > :07:16.Istanbul for the first leg of the play-off in the Champions League

:07:16. > :07:19.this season. We were at the red Stadium when they lost to Aston

:07:19. > :07:24.Villa in the first day of the season. And we spoke about however

:07:24. > :07:29.thing was wrong with Arsenal, and the build-up to that was very

:07:29. > :07:34.similar to what happened in Munich towards the end of last season, and

:07:34. > :07:37.I felt that that was something of a turning point, how they played so

:07:37. > :07:44.well in potentially hostile situations. And as we know, it has

:07:44. > :07:48.gone from strength to strength. I do not think there is a manager that

:07:48. > :07:52.comes under more scrutiny and stick than Arsene Wenger. Some of the

:07:52. > :07:54.period he has come through, and show the belief in his ability and the

:07:54. > :07:57.ability of his players, and I am the belief in his ability and the

:07:57. > :08:00.delighted that they have come good at the start of this season. They

:08:00. > :08:09.are doing really well in the Champions League, a great win

:08:09. > :08:13.against Napoli this week, but as a manager, if you look at the likes of

:08:13. > :08:15.Alan Pardew, Martin Jol, Arsene Wenger has come through this but at

:08:15. > :08:20.a different stage. Arsenal expected finish their every single year. The

:08:20. > :08:25.bizarre thing about the stick and pressure that Arsene Wenger gets, it

:08:25. > :08:30.felt like it came more from the Arsenal fans. Not all of them. But

:08:30. > :08:33.it felt more like the media defended Arsene Wenger come what may and some

:08:33. > :08:40.of the Arsenal fans were those giving him stick. I think that is

:08:40. > :08:46.fair, there has never been any pressure from the top. I do not

:08:46. > :08:50.think that no, Arsenal fans are like that, but when you go to the

:08:50. > :08:52.Emirates Stadium, around the press box, you have all of the funds in

:08:52. > :08:59.the main stand that have a very box, you have all of the funds in

:08:59. > :09:01.short patience, and it is funny with Arsene Wenger, his biggest failing

:09:01. > :09:07.is becoming his biggest strength, patients with the players to come

:09:07. > :09:12.good. You got Aaron Ramsey, you have got the goal keepers, you got these

:09:12. > :09:21.people that we fans would have gotten rid of, but Arsene Wenger

:09:21. > :09:29.stuck with. To get in touch with us. We will be discussing West Brom a

:09:29. > :09:34.bit later on. Harry treated as saying, should Jermain Defoe start

:09:34. > :09:42.for Spurs today? -- Harry treated us. Steve Wilson is that White Hart

:09:42. > :09:46.Lane, he will be working on the game for Match Of The Day later today, do

:09:46. > :09:55.you think that Jermain Defoe should start for Spurs? That is a hard

:09:55. > :09:58.question, I'd think that he will not start for Spurs today because he

:09:58. > :10:04.played in the Europa League on Thursday and so far Jermain Defoe

:10:04. > :10:10.has played 15 minutes of Premier League football this season. Jermain

:10:10. > :10:15.Defoe will think you should be starting today. He turns 31 on

:10:15. > :10:20.Tuesday, and he will be looking this year as being a last go at a World

:10:20. > :10:26.Cup for him. He has experienced that and wants to do it again. He told

:10:26. > :10:30.that to us only the other week. If he is not plain for Tottenham in the

:10:30. > :10:39.Premier League, then his place in the World Cup squad, if everybody

:10:39. > :10:44.else is fit, if Andy Carroll is fit, he is an option Theo Walcott can

:10:44. > :10:46.also be an option, Rickie Lambert is in possession, also storage, the

:10:46. > :10:50.position in Spurs are suddenly under threat. If he plays today, this

:10:50. > :10:54.would be his 350th game for the club over two spells. He scored 140

:10:54. > :11:00.goals. That record is beyond question. But Roberto Soldado is the

:11:00. > :11:04.man in possession of that one striking berth in the Premier League

:11:04. > :11:14.and I would expect the Spaniard to start today and for Jermain Defoe to

:11:14. > :11:22.sit and watch and wait his turn. West Ham's problem is scoring

:11:22. > :11:26.goals? Yes, it certainly is, they scored fewer goals than anyone else

:11:26. > :11:30.in the Premier League away from home last season and they scored fewer

:11:30. > :11:37.goals than anyone away from home in the top seven leagues in English

:11:37. > :11:42.football. It is very obvious where their problems are lying. Injuries

:11:42. > :11:47.have been a real problem for Sam Allardyce. He hoped in an ideal

:11:47. > :11:56.world that Stewart Danny would be assisting for Andy Carroll, but it

:11:56. > :11:59.has not happened. Carlton Cole is now in a contract for the club, but

:11:59. > :12:02.working back to match fitness. They released him last season. West Ham

:12:02. > :12:06.are pretty solid. Kevin Nolan is probably their best goal threat in

:12:06. > :12:10.that Number ten role. There pretty solid, but what they do not have as

:12:10. > :12:14.much sparkle, much real goal threat, and they also have a

:12:15. > :12:17.terrible record against Tottenham Hotspur, so Spurs coming to this as

:12:17. > :12:24.strong favourites, and this is Hotspur, so Spurs coming to this as

:12:24. > :12:26.London's day-to-day, it was the three northern challengers

:12:26. > :12:33.yesterday, today it is the Arsenal and Chelsea and he Tottenham. And

:12:33. > :12:36.Spurs could be top tonight. That game is on later this evening

:12:36. > :12:41.Spurs could be top tonight. on BBC One on match of the day two.

:12:41. > :12:44.On Jermain Defoe, I will start with you, Jonathan, is Jermain Defoe a

:12:44. > :12:53.On Jermain Defoe, I will start with victim of modern-day football and an

:12:53. > :12:57.absence of strike partnerships? If you look at Jermain Defoe, he was

:12:57. > :13:02.born to score goals. He scored at every club he has been absent he was

:13:02. > :13:10.a young boy. He was a young kid at West and coming through the system

:13:10. > :13:13.when I was there. Portsmouth, he had a spell at West Ham, and I think

:13:13. > :13:16.today is an ideal game for him going up against his old club. He scored

:13:16. > :13:19.goals in the cup is, fantastic during the week for Spurs. Every

:13:19. > :13:26.time he gets an opportunity to start in a game, even when he comes off

:13:26. > :13:31.the bench, you scores goals. He must be so frustrated. I know that Andre

:13:31. > :13:37.Villas-Boas has paid a lot for Roberto Soldado. For me, Jermain

:13:37. > :13:40.Defoe should be playing more regularly. I think he deserves to

:13:40. > :13:50.play with the girls that he is scoring. For me, the trouble is,

:13:50. > :13:53.Ericsson is playing so well, there is a trio that is playing so well,

:13:53. > :13:58.Jermain Defoe, when he gets the ball, he wants to put his head down,

:13:58. > :14:04.whereas Roberto Soldado well past to somebody running on, so it might be

:14:04. > :14:10.a style of play for Andre Villas-Boas, so if you're going to

:14:10. > :14:14.start Jermain Defoe, this is a good game for him. What Tottenham have

:14:14. > :14:17.got in the Premier League is working. It worked against Chelsea

:14:17. > :14:23.last week, and with Jermain Defoe, it is a test for the management of

:14:23. > :14:26.Andre Villas-Boas, his skills, to keep him happy to stop and watching

:14:26. > :14:32.the game on Thursday night, Jermain Defoe, he is scoring goals and he

:14:32. > :14:38.looks relatively happy. But he wants to start all of the games. Yes, and

:14:38. > :14:42.technically he is excellent, he makes great runs. You cannot blame

:14:42. > :14:48.the ball up in the error, but anything down the side, he is onto

:14:48. > :14:53.it. And he never let anybody down. And let's look at yesterday's games,

:14:53. > :14:57.we will start with a kid who appears to be dominating a lot of the back

:14:57. > :15:02.pages this morning, Adnan Januzaj?, he got both goals for Manchester

:15:02. > :15:10.United at Sunderland, here are the thoughts of David Moyes. I would

:15:10. > :15:13.have tried to get him into the team two weeks ago and it did not happen

:15:13. > :15:19.but the way he has made and trained, he deserves that. Are those finishes

:15:19. > :15:25.typical? He is a really good player and can do most things. Even has

:15:25. > :15:32.best positions, he can play in so many and gives us variation. He is

:15:32. > :15:40.just a real talent. I give Wayne Rooney his debut and Berkeley, and

:15:40. > :15:46.he is in that category, for sure. He is all over the papers and the

:15:47. > :15:56.broadcast media. Everybody has had a quick course on how to say that

:15:56. > :16:01.name! Is that a dig at me? ! We have to e-mail this one down. We will see

:16:01. > :16:05.more of him on the back pages. He just looks like a ready-made player

:16:05. > :16:08.and that is a big call to talk about Wayne Rooney and Berkeley, but in

:16:08. > :16:15.that same way, he looks like someone who does not need to serve any

:16:15. > :16:18.apprenticeship. This is not surprising because we were not the

:16:18. > :16:23.community Shield whenever Mike Phelan was working with us and he

:16:23. > :16:27.spoke very highly of what was expected of Adnan Januzaj this

:16:27. > :16:40.season because of the way that he has come through. But what is sadly

:16:40. > :16:44.concerning is that within 24 hours, he has gone from being a substitute

:16:44. > :16:50.at Manchester United with huge potential to being chased by

:16:51. > :16:56.Chelsea, Real Madrid and Man City! And the next big hope for England in

:16:56. > :17:01.international food all! Despite the fact that he could play for a

:17:01. > :17:05.different countries? I came here thinking he could play first four

:17:05. > :17:13.countries but Jonathan tells me, ten at the moment, and England want to

:17:13. > :17:19.be number 11? Amazing. He has Yugoslavia, his father was born, his

:17:19. > :17:21.mother was Turkish, growing up in Belgium, Albania is another one

:17:21. > :17:24.mother was Turkish, growing up in through his grandparents. And

:17:24. > :17:32.Kosovo, they do have a national team. And England want to be in

:17:32. > :17:40.there. In some ways, David Moyes in particular will just want to calm

:17:40. > :17:44.down? Without comparing him to Ferguson again on the show, but this

:17:44. > :17:50.is where Ferguson would maybe just pull

:17:50. > :17:58.will want to do is try to sign a new contract and you have to give David

:17:58. > :18:01.Moyes credit for this because sometimes whenever I have played for

:18:01. > :18:05.close, you know there are great youngsters coming through but the

:18:05. > :18:07.timing has to be right, when you put them in and sometimes they go in

:18:07. > :18:10.because of injury and other times them in and sometimes they go in

:18:10. > :18:12.because they do fantastically well in training and the manager thinks

:18:12. > :18:16.because they do fantastically well they could cope. He has given him

:18:16. > :18:20.that opportunity, like Wayne Rooney and Berkeley. He has done the same

:18:20. > :18:25.with Adnan Januzaj. He deserves a lot of credit. Knowing when to bring

:18:25. > :18:29.him in and when he shall perform. We had a tweet saying, do you still

:18:29. > :18:35.believe that Manchester United by had a tweet saying, do you still

:18:35. > :18:42.genuine title contenders? He could have just asked that man himself? !

:18:42. > :18:46.Don't play me on the left wing! There is a column by Ian Holloway

:18:46. > :18:51.and the Sunday Mirror that says football is a fickle game when it

:18:51. > :18:55.comes to the sack race. And all the pressure was on Martin Jol

:18:55. > :19:02.yesterday. And Fulham beat Stoke. It is here from him, that's you that

:19:02. > :19:09.relief. There is a lot of relief occurs we needed a point. That is

:19:09. > :19:15.exactly what we needed because we are struggling a bit. You saw today,

:19:15. > :19:19.we could not keep the ball or show quality and we had substitutions to

:19:19. > :19:24.make but in the end, we were a bit lucky as well. The week could have

:19:24. > :19:29.scored that second one. But they had more position than us. Although they

:19:29. > :19:35.were better, they had a lot of chances from set pieces so the old

:19:35. > :19:40.story with Stoke. There were two or three clear headers. The boiler

:19:40. > :19:44.pressure, they did not create much but I want my team to play better on

:19:44. > :19:47.the ball. And if you don't play well and get three points, you are happy.

:19:47. > :19:53.How difficult is his job at: ? He and get three points, you are happy.

:19:53. > :19:59.has those classic conditions, that new order coming in and he has

:19:59. > :20:01.expectations that have been raised by previous managers doing well.

:20:01. > :20:06.expectations that have been raised That might be above what this club

:20:06. > :20:10.is capable of, if you look at the squad. There is a lot of pressure

:20:10. > :20:15.but one thing about Martin is he is his own man and you can see that

:20:15. > :20:20.that those signings this year. It is very romantic, what he is trying to

:20:20. > :20:26.do. And with murder trial yesterday, he was playing his style of the old.

:20:26. > :20:30.He did not put under pressure at all. They will do that by playing

:20:30. > :20:36.football. You just worry with that new owner watching you. He will put

:20:36. > :20:38.him at the investment and I think he will be expected to get into the top

:20:38. > :20:42.him at the investment and I think he half of the table, which is

:20:42. > :20:46.difficult. He seems very calm. We heard how relieved he sounded their

:20:46. > :20:52.but one of the other things he said was, my life does not depend on this

:20:52. > :20:57.job. I will be able to get another manager 's job. I suppose in many

:20:57. > :21:03.ways, that is what Fulham players will want, for him to be relaxed?

:21:03. > :21:09.Yes, and that comes from the manager. In terms of leadership of

:21:09. > :21:12.the team and the club and to grind out victories like that yesterday,

:21:12. > :21:17.the only thing that will make his position more comfortable is to win

:21:17. > :21:22.games, as they did yesterday. Hence that relief. Aston Villa beat

:21:22. > :21:27.Manchester City last and had one point at all yesterday in that

:21:27. > :21:36.drawer. Do you think the last couple of Aston Villa results show they are

:21:36. > :21:43.changing 's --? Last season they were fantastic. If they can get

:21:43. > :21:52.their three big players fit, they will cause teams for bombs. , with

:21:52. > :21:57.that size and physique of Benteke. And Paul Lambert was the same.

:21:57. > :22:04.Thinking, I have come here and I don't have a lot of money to spend

:22:04. > :22:10.and had the issue with Darren Bent, only one of three players that has

:22:10. > :22:11.-- scored more goals and Frank Lampard, Wayne Rooney and van

:22:11. > :22:15.Persie. If you played more games, Lampard, Wayne Rooney and van

:22:15. > :22:20.they would have got out of trouble. I think Aston Villa will not be in

:22:20. > :22:28.the trouble they are in from last year. Top half? Bottom half but

:22:28. > :22:31.somewhere near the middle. And that defending has been much better, I

:22:31. > :22:39.thought that would be a real problem. He seems to have brought

:22:39. > :22:43.that along. And Paul Lambert is an old team-mate of yours and you know

:22:43. > :22:47.him very well. It strikes me, looking from the outside, is he is a

:22:47. > :22:53.very stubborn individual who will do things his way. You saw that last

:22:53. > :22:57.season and we have seen that again this season. Does that tally with

:22:57. > :23:01.the Man U no? Definitely. Paul Lambert was Ray close to Martin

:23:01. > :23:06.O'Neill and Martin gave him the best part of six months at the back end

:23:06. > :23:11.of his career to go over to Germany and he was very successful in

:23:11. > :23:16.Germany. I think he has tried to copy Martin in many ways. I don't

:23:16. > :23:26.think he will be talking with an Irish accent into long? ! But that

:23:26. > :23:32.tracksuit! He is very bright and intelligent. And he will make

:23:32. > :23:35.decisions his own way. His way. It struck me at Norwich at lunchtime

:23:35. > :23:38.and they won that game and he was straight onto the pitch in front of

:23:38. > :23:43.those Aston Villa supporters and effort, there seems to be some

:23:43. > :23:45.certain... He seemed to find somewhere to get the players to play

:23:45. > :23:49.certain... He seemed to find for him. And that is an art in

:23:49. > :23:53.itself, to get those players playing for you. And he came through last

:23:53. > :24:00.season with that little run at the end. They got as a church low point

:24:00. > :24:02.and he stuck with those young players and he has done that with

:24:02. > :24:17.the fans, bringing everybody together. Keep contacting us. Tony

:24:17. > :24:21.has dropped us a line to say, do you think Norwich and Chelsea will be

:24:21. > :24:26.one-sided? We will get the thoughts of the panel after Conor McNamara

:24:27. > :24:31.gives us the team news. One change for Norwich, Sebastien Bassong comes

:24:31. > :24:34.on for Bennett. And the Chelsea team is one change also from their match

:24:35. > :24:40.on Tuesday and it is upfront with Demba Ba starting for Chelsea.

:24:40. > :24:43.Fernando Torres is suspended and Demba Ba starting for Chelsea.

:24:43. > :24:48.injured at the moment so he would never feature that will not of those

:24:48. > :24:51.strikers scoring a log -- a goal in the Premier League, they have gone

:24:51. > :25:00.back to Demba Ba, leading the line at Carrow Road. One-sided? We did

:25:00. > :25:04.not see that coming. Demba Ba. Having been at White Hart Lane for

:25:04. > :25:10.the last weekend, one thing that really struck me when was a Marine

:25:10. > :25:16.your spoke to ask was the shackle Jose Mourinho, it was how satisfied

:25:16. > :25:20.he was. He was in great form. I got that impression from his language

:25:20. > :25:24.and what he said that he thought, right, OK, it is beginning to come

:25:24. > :25:38.together the way I wanted to. But two through Demba Ba in instead of

:25:38. > :25:41.Samuel Eto'o, today macro? --... ? He was delighted with how they

:25:41. > :25:46.started that game at Stoke, in particular. Stoke did not causing

:25:46. > :25:49.any problems. They had a lot of new signings and that was a reason

:25:49. > :25:50.without that knowledge would have a decent season but they would need

:25:50. > :25:55.time to gel together and for me, decent season but they would need

:25:55. > :25:59.they started to come back against Watford in the cup when they were

:25:59. > :26:03.2-0 down and they won that game after extra time. And it looks like

:26:03. > :26:07.he is starting to get some Alan Soady that team and they are very

:26:07. > :26:12.hard to beat at Carrow Road. This is not a foregone conclusion. He was

:26:12. > :26:17.under pressure after that Aston Villa defeat, and having been there,

:26:17. > :26:23.that really surprised me. Bearing in mind when they finished last season.

:26:23. > :26:26.And the reaction to win that subjugation happened from the

:26:26. > :26:38.Norwich city supporters, that took me back. -- substitution. Chelsea

:26:38. > :26:41.will be serious title defenders and I think they are and they need to go

:26:41. > :26:45.to places like Norwich and play like champions because there are not many

:26:45. > :26:50.Norwich players, no disrespect, who would get into that Chelsea team.

:26:50. > :26:54.They should win comfortably. It is only when they wait for somebody

:26:54. > :26:59.else to produce some magic, Oscar, Eden Hazard, but as you say, it is a

:26:59. > :27:04.else to produce some magic, Oscar, very difficult place to go and get

:27:04. > :27:10.results. We were angry this morning at the BBC, Jose Mourinho 's

:27:10. > :27:17.comments in the press this morning, the back page of the express,

:27:17. > :27:20.typical of the coverage. His war on cheap. He once enriched football to

:27:20. > :27:25.drive out divers and that has provoked huge reaction. Chris in

:27:25. > :27:31.Devon says he is hardly the right man to speak about idling. Eden

:27:31. > :27:37.Hazard, Oscar, Ramirez, they are among the most persistent offenders.

:27:37. > :27:42.I remember in 2003, Celtic against Porto in Seville and the Porto

:27:42. > :27:46.players, I have to say, they were a disgrace. They spent more time on

:27:46. > :27:52.their backsides and on their back during that game. John was at that

:27:52. > :27:58.game. One of the worst displays, I think. I am sure that Jose Mourinho

:27:58. > :28:02.is not condoning their actions but he certainly has changed his tone.

:28:02. > :28:08.He claims, in all of these quotes and interviews, but it depends on

:28:08. > :28:13.the culture of the country you play in. We in this country have a

:28:13. > :28:16.culture of being against idling but if you play in certain other

:28:16. > :28:23.countries where diving is accepted, if you do not do that, you will get

:28:23. > :28:28.left behind? He is right but in his first spell, he had a team that

:28:28. > :28:33.featured Drago and Robin, and they were not the most vertical players.

:28:33. > :28:38.All over the place. Maybe he has changed, he kept -- keeps telling us

:28:38. > :28:43.that he has and this would be a chance to show us that would be some

:28:43. > :28:48.transformation because remember that first team, inter-Milan, he has

:28:48. > :28:54.always seemed to be that classically continental coach who does not mind

:28:54. > :28:58.using gamesmanship. Diving creates more reaction than anything else? He

:28:58. > :29:03.said this after the Spurs game and he was very much playing the card

:29:03. > :29:09.of, this is England. And this does not happen here. He has very much

:29:09. > :29:14.come back here waving the sword of truth, hasn't he? And this issue is

:29:14. > :29:19.very difficult to call because players know that they are so fast

:29:19. > :29:25.and then move the ball around and to actually see some of them being

:29:25. > :29:29.blatant, Ashley Young last weekend, David Moyes having a go at his own

:29:29. > :29:38.player, he said he would not condone that and will do without in-house.

:29:38. > :29:42.-- deal with that in-house. He is very clever in what he says, Jose

:29:42. > :29:48.Mourinho, but there is more died today. We'll be seeing an incident

:29:48. > :29:57.with one of his players? Please contact us and lots of people have

:29:57. > :30:00.about Arsenal. I am Bedford van who stuck by Arsene Wenger and we can

:30:00. > :30:04.play the most beautiful but well under that brings a trophy, great.

:30:04. > :30:07.Nathan and Kieran from Tyrone make the point that although there was

:30:07. > :30:15.that master and bringing in Birdsall, there is this supple

:30:15. > :30:20.re-signing of the meanie that has added strength to the team midfield.

:30:20. > :30:23.That is what Kieran and Tyrone says, afresh in to see some money

:30:23. > :30:28.managing players on the pitch, organising and barking orders and

:30:28. > :30:36.that is what he does. We have talked Arsenal so let's talk about their

:30:36. > :30:40.opponents. Let's talk about West Brom, you can see the match on BBC

:30:40. > :30:47.One later today, Kevin Caliban is at the hawthorns for us. They will go

:30:47. > :30:55.into this rejuvenated after Old Trafford last week? Yes, and before

:30:55. > :30:58.the transfer deadline they were struggling, West Brom. They

:30:58. > :31:06.struggled against Swansea, and they have had to new signings now, and

:31:06. > :31:09.that is really making an improvement now. There are games against

:31:09. > :31:15.Sunderland and Manchester United has improved them and today they will be

:31:15. > :31:23.tough for Arsenal. From the past couple of weeks, Morgan Amalfitano

:31:23. > :31:29.has been their crucial man. A week before, he won the man of the match

:31:29. > :31:34.in the victory against Sunderland. Yes, the back four for West Brom and

:31:34. > :31:38.with Jacob there, they have been essentially the same for the last

:31:38. > :31:43.year or so, they have been outstanding. But this season, they

:31:43. > :31:48.have basically got a new front line, a lot of new introductions into that

:31:48. > :31:53.squad, and you would expect it to take some time, but Morgan

:31:53. > :31:56.Amalfitano, with his goal last week, the goal in Old Trafford, that was

:31:56. > :32:03.amazing, and he seems to have hit the ground running here at the

:32:03. > :32:06.hawthorns. Does this increase expectations were as one month ago,

:32:06. > :32:12.they might have gone into Arsenal with nothing to lose, but now fans

:32:12. > :32:19.travelling today might expect a repeat of last week? Yes, certainly

:32:19. > :32:22.the result against Sunderland raised expectations because they did not

:32:22. > :32:26.have a lot of shots at goal, they had not been creating chances, but

:32:26. > :32:29.this game against Sunderland improved everything, and Old

:32:29. > :32:33.Trafford has raised expectations, and certainly for today, it would be

:32:33. > :32:39.difficult for Arsenal coming here, and they will have no fear playing

:32:39. > :32:43.against world-class players. Jonathan, your point about Norwich

:32:43. > :32:51.bringing in players is the same for West Brom? Yes, a very slow start to

:32:51. > :33:01.the season, but some very clever signings. Some of their players have

:33:01. > :33:04.burst onto the scene, and there are injury doubts today, but Steve

:33:04. > :33:09.Clarke is very steady and believed in what he was doing all along. He

:33:09. > :33:18.did not see the need to panic. I think they will be OK now. Steve

:33:18. > :33:24.Clarke was furious this week, he was furious about a wage being revealed

:33:25. > :33:30.at the stadium, and he said he had a great start and were getting new

:33:30. > :33:38.contract that will reflect the playing, but revealing salary in

:33:38. > :33:46.public, he will not like that. It is absolutely extraordinary, the entire

:33:46. > :33:52.tale. But West Brom, it made me smile hearing Arsene Wenger saying

:33:52. > :33:56.they are a team full of confidence, because it was the Swansea game,

:33:56. > :34:06.when Swansea won, they were abreast of confidence and era member Steve

:34:06. > :34:18.Clarke was Billy Gerd. -- Steve Clark was read. -- bereaved. Swansea

:34:18. > :34:23.hit as a couple of times on the break, but West Brom were terrible

:34:23. > :34:30.on the day. But with some of the new additions, Nicolas Anelka, he was

:34:30. > :34:34.their best player on the day, and I think that today they could possibly

:34:34. > :34:40.cause Arsenal a few problems, but Arsenal also have great confidence

:34:40. > :34:45.themselves. Also this afternoon, Southampton and Swansea. Let's hear

:34:45. > :34:49.about that. We have a very good squad, some

:34:49. > :34:54.depth in our squad. Not many changes. I think from game to game,

:34:54. > :34:59.depth in our squad. Not many we have to see what we can do today.

:34:59. > :35:03.Of course, I have to look at the fixtures, this is our seventh game

:35:03. > :35:07.in 20 games in three different competitions. But it is very

:35:07. > :35:12.competitive, the team we have got out there, in a very important game

:35:12. > :35:16.for us. A very important test, because Southampton is a good squad.

:35:16. > :35:23.Already last season, the second part of the season, they played really

:35:23. > :35:28.well and they added some very good players this season, so I think they

:35:28. > :35:33.can do really well. As far as Swansea are concerned, they made

:35:33. > :35:41.five changes. Ashley Williams is on the bench this afternoon. This could

:35:42. > :35:54.be the game of the afternoon, given how these to play football. -- these

:35:54. > :35:59.two. It is a hipster 's game! These two games are a great story because

:35:59. > :36:04.they have come into the Premier League. -- these two teams. They

:36:04. > :36:09.have survived in the right way. Southampton could go into the top

:36:09. > :36:14.four. They have hardly scored a goal, but they are very hard to

:36:14. > :36:19.beat, they are very assured. I saw them at Anfield, brilliant against

:36:19. > :36:29.Liverpool. There making some good progress with some good signings. It

:36:29. > :36:32.is a real emerging team. They are both similar clubs because the

:36:32. > :36:36.expectations are that if they can push into the eighth, seventh

:36:36. > :36:40.position, they do not have aspirations to finish in the top

:36:40. > :36:44.four, they both feel that they are strong enough to not be in the

:36:44. > :36:49.bottom, in the mix down the bottom. They have both spent a decent amount

:36:49. > :36:55.of money in the summer, but spending money on some new players, but they

:36:55. > :37:03.have become similar clubs in similar ways. They have so many games, they

:37:03. > :37:15.have got to cope with that, but so far this season, I would put Michu

:37:15. > :37:22.down as one of my top players. He is so dominant in that club. I know

:37:22. > :37:25.they spend £12 million on one of their players, they have disrupted

:37:26. > :37:44.the style of this team slightly, because the manager wants to get

:37:44. > :37:52.Borner and Michu in. Michu is a tall man, he has great feat, but he can

:37:52. > :37:57.drop in. He holds it up, he can play quickly, and for £2 million, a

:37:57. > :38:02.wonderful business. We will give you the results of our vote shortly,

:38:02. > :38:14.that is shots now. Brendan has said, I wish that the media would keep

:38:14. > :38:19.young players in perspective. One of Manchester United's former new

:38:19. > :38:25.players is now trying to resurrect his career on loan at Doncaster.

:38:25. > :38:28.Let's hear from the manager now that was with Gary Lineker on Match Of

:38:28. > :38:35.The Day last night. Would this be the biggest week in

:38:35. > :38:39.your managerial career? It feels like it. I have had some big weeks

:38:39. > :38:42.with national team 's leading up to like it. I have had some big weeks

:38:42. > :38:46.final qualification games where you have a lot of responsibility for the

:38:46. > :38:52.country, and trying to get your team through, but when it is your own

:38:52. > :39:01.country, it weighs a little bit more heavily. I you happy with the

:39:01. > :39:10.position you are in? I was a bit of a critic in the last game, I felt

:39:10. > :39:12.they did not pass the ball well and gave away some possession. We have

:39:12. > :39:14.they did not pass the ball well and had better attacking days, but I

:39:14. > :39:18.thought that are defending was better. In the circumstances to come

:39:18. > :39:22.away from a difficult game with one pointed going to the last two games

:39:22. > :39:26.were I was hoping that we would get some of our attacking players fit

:39:26. > :39:30.again, all having the ball in our own hands would not be a bad

:39:30. > :39:35.situation. We want to get best team on the fields. We have some

:39:35. > :39:37.marvellous attacking players and we pass the ball well. The Ukraine game

:39:37. > :39:40.was a bit special because not least pass the ball well. The Ukraine game

:39:41. > :39:45.of all we missed some players. Considering all we had to content

:39:45. > :39:53.with, I do not think we had done that badly. We are still unbeaten in

:39:53. > :39:56.our group and we only lost one of the 20 games we played, but it is

:39:56. > :39:59.right to say that there have been a few too many draws and looking back,

:39:59. > :40:02.there may have been some games were I wished we hung on the leader bit

:40:02. > :40:12.better or done a bit more to get a victory from the draw. But I think

:40:12. > :40:18.we will qualify. I am confident. Roy Hodgson is confident, you are

:40:18. > :40:24.confident as well regarding the vote that we did earlier. 75% of people

:40:24. > :40:28.are saying that they think that England will qualify automatically.

:40:28. > :40:33.25%, or the Scott 's, as they are known! A joke before you are

:40:34. > :40:42.e-mailing in or complaining! Do you think England will qualify? I do, if

:40:42. > :40:48.you offered Roy Hodgson Montenegrin or Poland at home in the last two

:40:48. > :40:53.games, you would have taken that. I think it would be a strong England

:40:53. > :40:57.team on Friday night. I'm putting my neck on the block, but I think you

:40:57. > :41:05.will play Wilts, Lampard, Gerrard, who will play at Miller and Rooney.

:41:05. > :41:12.A fantastic article by Graeme Souness this morning where he says

:41:12. > :41:18.that Hodgson should try and persuade John Terry to come back to partner

:41:18. > :41:29.Gary Cahill. If fantastic pundits, but do you agree with that? It is

:41:29. > :41:33.difficult, also because he was a bit of a Scottish Legends, but I

:41:33. > :41:39.wouldn't bring John Terry back. That one is gone. It is just gone. The

:41:39. > :41:50.one call that he makes is games for coal, the might be a case for this

:41:50. > :41:59.in the home games against England. -- Baynes for Cole. Form wise, there

:41:59. > :42:05.is not an arrogant for it, but Roy Hodgson has not tried out other

:42:05. > :42:11.keepers, so he is in a corner. -- there is not an arrogant for it. We

:42:11. > :42:15.learn from the past, the most important thing for England, let's

:42:15. > :42:19.hope from an England point of view it continues today, we hope that

:42:19. > :42:24.there are no injuries, because as Roy Hodgson says, he needs his best

:42:24. > :42:28.available team and I think Daniel Sturridge, Wayne Rooney, that is a

:42:28. > :42:32.big thing, I am sure he had a sharp intake of breath when Wayne Rooney

:42:32. > :42:38.was hobbling around the Stadium of Light for a bit yesterday. But the

:42:38. > :42:44.experience, Lampard, I feel he will go with the experience of Ashley

:42:44. > :42:48.Cole at left back. The form of Daniel Sturridge is probably the

:42:48. > :42:55.best thing for him at the moment. Yes, he cannot stop playing goals,

:42:55. > :42:59.his energy, he can score from outside the box, and they will try

:42:59. > :43:04.to implicate the way that Daniel Sturridge links with Suarez as

:43:04. > :43:08.Liverpool. You will try to hope for similar with Rooney and Daniel

:43:08. > :43:14.Sturridge at England, that would be the ideal situation. I agree with

:43:14. > :43:18.John's team, but Roy Hodgson was saying last night that he does not

:43:18. > :43:23.see Daniel Sturridge is a wide player in any way, but he has got

:43:24. > :43:28.Wayne Rooney and Jack Wilshere, so some tinkering to do, and he has

:43:28. > :43:45.surely got to pick Daniel Sturridge and Wayne Rooney on formative that

:43:45. > :44:00.he has got too much. Could he pick Cole and Baynes? I think defensively

:44:00. > :44:02.Ashley Cole is that. But in other ways, Baynes is better. But I think

:44:02. > :44:08.he will go with Ashley Cole. We are ways, Baynes is better. But I think

:44:09. > :44:15.running out of time, thank you to our panel, two Premier game matches

:44:15. > :44:19.on BBC Radio Five Live today, then you can watch it all on BBC One

:44:19. > :44:19.tonight. Goodbye.