06/12/2015

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:00:30. > :00:33.Good afternoon, welcome to MOTD 2 Extra on BBC Two,

:00:34. > :00:49.With me, former England and Leeds goalkeeper Paul Robinson, Match of

:00:50. > :00:50.the Day commentator guy made pass Guy Mowbray and Amy Lawrence.

:00:51. > :00:53.You can get involved too, just use the hashtag #bbcfootball

:00:54. > :01:00.Over the next 45 minutes we will discuss the pressure mounting on

:01:01. > :01:02.Garry Monk as Mahrez fires Leicester back to the top.

:01:03. > :01:03.Chelsea lose again as Bournemouth claim an historic

:01:04. > :01:08.Manchester United draw another blank at Old Trafford.

:01:09. > :01:13.And sublime Stoke brush Manchester City aside.

:01:14. > :01:19.If you look at the papers this Sunday lunchtime, a lot of them

:01:20. > :01:24.talking about Manchester, saying they don't want Pep Guardiola,

:01:25. > :01:28.including the Sun, because they are happy with Louis van Gaal. The Mail

:01:29. > :01:31.on Sunday have called Jose Mourinho defiant after their defeat to

:01:32. > :01:37.Bournemouth and the times have suggested that Garry Monk is on the

:01:38. > :01:41.brink of losing his job. The headline, Bourne supremacy after

:01:42. > :01:45.Bournemouth's victory at Chelsea. Does Bournemouth's victory at

:01:46. > :01:51.Chelsea suggest a very exciting Premier League this season? It is a

:01:52. > :01:56.great Premier League, nobody running away with it, it is very close.

:01:57. > :02:00.Chelsea taking themselves out of it and nobody seems to want to grab the

:02:01. > :02:05.bull by the horns, take charge of this league. For five teams can win

:02:06. > :02:12.the league this year. -- four or five. If it is so close, why are

:02:13. > :02:17.people suggesting it is mediocre? I suppose if you look at the situation

:02:18. > :02:20.regarding European football, there are concerns. Are you judging the

:02:21. > :02:25.Premier League as a unit, as it's off, how dramatic and bonkers is it

:02:26. > :02:31.this season, or are you judging it by saying that only Manchester City

:02:32. > :02:35.go through in the Champions League and England are in danger of using

:02:36. > :02:41.their Champions League spot. How do you judge it? In isolation, it's

:02:42. > :02:46.amazing, you talk about Bournemouth and Chelsea but in some ways, the

:02:47. > :02:50.Stoke and Man City performance, never mind result, is the one that

:02:51. > :02:57.makes you sit there and think this is really staggering, the kind of

:02:58. > :03:00.clubs, Stoke are always able to upset somebody, you are not

:03:01. > :03:03.surprised by that as a result, but you are surprised by the

:03:04. > :03:06.performance, surprised by the audacity with which they were able

:03:07. > :03:12.to play that they could play the better football by miles. It shows

:03:13. > :03:17.you that we have teams who may be regarded as punching above their

:03:18. > :03:22.weight upsetting the top teams come it's not about that, they want to

:03:23. > :03:25.take you want at football now. What makes it special is what is the

:03:26. > :03:30.Achilles heel in Europe, the competitiveness and intensity in

:03:31. > :03:33.every game. Teams can't just go on to do that nature is they and

:03:34. > :03:38.Wednesday and Thursday night. Manuel Pellegrini was interesting, because

:03:39. > :03:43.Manchester City, despite their millions, he said that they only

:03:44. > :03:46.have 13 players and may have to continue with that. It is the

:03:47. > :03:51.intensity, they can't manage it and that may be why they are getting

:03:52. > :03:58.injuries too. Do you think that teams are improving? I had a very

:03:59. > :04:05.unscientific poll, involving piece of paper. That wouldn't even stand

:04:06. > :04:10.up on family fortunes! I think Watford are eight breath of fresh

:04:11. > :04:13.air, Sanchez Flores is very impressive. Norwich are good enough

:04:14. > :04:18.to beat anybody, they outplayed Arsenal last weekend and we saw what

:04:19. > :04:22.Bournemouth can do yesterday. Of the teams in the Premier League last

:04:23. > :04:26.season, six of them have dipped, about five of them are the same and

:04:27. > :04:31.six have improved. Leicester, Spurs, West Ham, Palace and Stoke, and

:04:32. > :04:34.maybe even Everton even know their league position suggests otherwise.

:04:35. > :04:39.I think other teams are getting better, yeah. It is almost elitist

:04:40. > :04:43.to think otherwise, to look down on it and think it is in such a good

:04:44. > :04:47.Premier League. People only say that because we don't have city and

:04:48. > :04:50.Chelsea flying. If you compare the Premier League to the other leagues

:04:51. > :04:56.in Europe, we have eight, ten teams, strong teams. Looking around Europe,

:04:57. > :05:00.there are one or two teams who win titles every year and in certain

:05:01. > :05:08.countries, one team win the title every year. We now have five or six

:05:09. > :05:12.serious title contenders. Do we need someone outside of the normal

:05:13. > :05:15.suspects to win the league? Can Leicester do it? Everyone is sitting

:05:16. > :05:23.here thinking it is a matter of time before they stop. Robbie Savage

:05:24. > :05:31.isn't here to ask! Let's thank our lucky stars for that! The Leeds

:05:32. > :05:38.teams of the turn of the century, did you feel, even though Leeds won

:05:39. > :05:43.it in the early 90s comment did you feel that you wanted to break the

:05:44. > :05:46.usual suspects? Yeah, definitely. Leeds and Leicester are different

:05:47. > :05:50.because Leicester have come from nowhere but the Leeds team we had we

:05:51. > :05:54.were building over the years, two or three years when we were in Europe.

:05:55. > :05:58.We felt it was the right time and that we deserved to be there and we

:05:59. > :06:03.earned the right. Not saying that Leicester haven't, but it has come

:06:04. > :06:08.out of the blue from how we did it. Let's talk about building a site, in

:06:09. > :06:12.relation to Stoke. Obviously beating Manchester City, as we spoke about.

:06:13. > :06:16.Guy Mowbray was there and he spoke to Mark Hughes. Did you think that

:06:17. > :06:21.Stoke sometimes pinch themselves about the players they have? I think

:06:22. > :06:26.they are enjoying what they are seeing at the moment and we have to

:06:27. > :06:29.continue in the same vein. We slipped up last week against

:06:30. > :06:35.Sunderland, on the day. If we can cut those results out of our

:06:36. > :06:41.season's programme, then we are a very good team. On occasions, we

:06:42. > :06:46.have let ourselves down. But I've been here a couple of years now, two

:06:47. > :06:50.and a half years, and those days are becoming less and less and we are

:06:51. > :06:54.continuing to produce and we could have a good season again. We have a

:06:55. > :07:00.tweet here, flying, attacking football with flair, coupled with

:07:01. > :07:08.steel at the back, Mark Hughes for the next Manchester City manager?

:07:09. > :07:15.Oh! Apart from QPR, he builds the bull teams. Absolutely, he has taken

:07:16. > :07:20.it on a notch -- football teams. A phrase that Tony Pulis used,

:07:21. > :07:24.comparing Stoke to Battersea dogs home, taking the waifs and strays

:07:25. > :07:29.and moulding them into something. They are still doing that, only with

:07:30. > :07:32.the pedigree to start with. If you look at Arnautovic and Bojan and

:07:33. > :07:35.Shaqiri, Shaqiri could have been, not as good as but he could have

:07:36. > :07:40.been up there with the likes of Messi if not for injury. He was at

:07:41. > :07:48.Bayern Munich but was shattered by injury. Now he is relishing his

:07:49. > :07:51.football, magnificent player. Bojan, always in Messi's shadow. They are

:07:52. > :07:55.bringing on these players in the bounce and they are finding a home,

:07:56. > :08:00.would you believe it, in the heart industrial England. The fans must be

:08:01. > :08:07.loving it. You also have the old guard, like Jon Walters and Glenn

:08:08. > :08:12.Whelan. Ryan Shawcross, their record with him and without him. He was out

:08:13. > :08:16.with a back injury. Stoke haven't conceded a goal with him in the

:08:17. > :08:20.team. As solid as they come. I think Mark Hughes has done a great job, he

:08:21. > :08:26.has changed the style of football, he has been given time and he has

:08:27. > :08:31.played a different way to Tony Pulis. Used to hate going to Stoke

:08:32. > :08:36.away. I don't think I've ever won at the Britannia as a player, it was a

:08:37. > :08:39.horrible ground to go but it is even worse now because they are playing

:08:40. > :08:44.great attractive football and he has got in the players he wanted and

:08:45. > :08:49.moulded him in the way he wants. As far as building the club and this

:08:50. > :08:53.squad, how far could he go with them, given his contacts around

:08:54. > :08:57.Europe? Let's not forget that as a player, he played at Barcelona and

:08:58. > :09:02.Bayern Munich and he has used his German and Spanish contacts to great

:09:03. > :09:07.effect. Going back to what you said about how the Stoke fans are

:09:08. > :09:11.feeling, even as a non-Stoke fan, you watch how they played yesterday

:09:12. > :09:16.and it is quite surreal because you have a stereotype of Stoke and then

:09:17. > :09:22.you see Bojan with this beautiful fancy footwork, playing with such

:09:23. > :09:27.panache. It's almost... You can't get your head around it. I think you

:09:28. > :09:31.always have a domino effect with building teams, you have to get in

:09:32. > :09:33.the first ones who begin the change and then everybody believes that

:09:34. > :09:39.there is something different going on here. Then the next wave can come

:09:40. > :09:42.on top of that. Probably the hardest bit is convincing those players to

:09:43. > :09:48.come in the first place. When you have got the first new style players

:09:49. > :09:53.in, people can say oh, that looks great, I wouldn't mind that. Which

:09:54. > :09:57.is great, but the whole point, if you are going to have those players,

:09:58. > :10:01.and I've mentioned this before, not enough Premier League teams do it,

:10:02. > :10:05.you still have to play everybody in the right positions. Mark Hughes

:10:06. > :10:10.seems to do that. Some managers change here and there and put

:10:11. > :10:13.players in players that -- positions that are not their best but Mark

:10:14. > :10:18.Hughes seems to have them where they want to be. It looks like he has

:10:19. > :10:22.hands on the recruitment policy, he is signing the players he wants, he

:10:23. > :10:25.knows how he wants to play and what positions he wants players in and he

:10:26. > :10:30.has been able to sign those players and the chairman has backed him. He

:10:31. > :10:33.brought in some great players. We were talking before the programme

:10:34. > :10:42.that the Premier League, going back to the 60s, Leicester at the top,

:10:43. > :10:48.Stoke flying. Stoke, it is like going back to Alan Hansen and Sir

:10:49. > :10:52.Stanley Matthews. Stoke had a reputation, they were always a flair

:10:53. > :10:57.team. It is going back to that again. What Paul said about it being

:10:58. > :11:01.a probable place to go, it is good to watch but there is still being

:11:02. > :11:06.imitation from the stands. I don't think Martin Atkinson got a decision

:11:07. > :11:10.wrong. When he gave a free kick against Stoke he was accused of

:11:11. > :11:17.giving nothing for them, he was getting pelted. Before the match

:11:18. > :11:22.when I did an interview, Mark said it was silly not to understand they

:11:23. > :11:28.have an advantage, a whole place to go, the wind is swirling around --

:11:29. > :11:32.horrible place. For all of the great players they have brought in, they

:11:33. > :11:37.won't ignore them advantage that the place gives them. It is a massive

:11:38. > :11:41.advantage. A new stadium, lovely place, but the corners are open, the

:11:42. > :11:45.elements play a part. The away dressing room is a tiny one in the

:11:46. > :11:50.corner, it has been made bigger but it still isn't very nice! It isn't a

:11:51. > :11:57.home team dressing room by any stretch. Under Tony Pulis you knew

:11:58. > :12:02.that you were going to have a terrible game. Is that a modern

:12:03. > :12:06.thing where the away dressing room is markedly different to the home

:12:07. > :12:10.one? Or is that more a sign of the emirates and the Etihad? The

:12:11. > :12:14.dressing rooms are now very plush but there is a marked difference

:12:15. > :12:19.between the home and away once. The home team, the manager will do it to

:12:20. > :12:24.his own specification. The away team dressing room will be perfectly nice

:12:25. > :12:29.but it will be the basics, none of those turning on the cold showers!

:12:30. > :12:32.Talking about the emirates stadium, there is a big difference between

:12:33. > :12:35.the home and away dressing room, it is comfortable and modern but one of

:12:36. > :12:40.them is three times the size of the other. There are some specific

:12:41. > :12:44.things, there is an awkward pillar in the middle of the away dressing

:12:45. > :12:50.room so as the manager you can't necessarily see everybody. It is

:12:51. > :12:54.square shaped, so you have people in the corner, who can't necessarily

:12:55. > :13:01.seek you directly. The home dressing room is a curved shape, so everybody

:13:02. > :13:05.supposedly can see everybody else. Huge attention to detail that they

:13:06. > :13:08.did specifically, within the confines of it being a beautiful

:13:09. > :13:11.modern stadium and it is comfortable. There is no more

:13:12. > :13:16.overheated dressing rooms and freezing showers. They have made it

:13:17. > :13:20.as obvious as possible that one has a huge advantage. When Sunderland

:13:21. > :13:26.built the Stadium Of Light they painted the away dressing room cold

:13:27. > :13:31.blue, to make you feel colder. You wonder if they have given it a paint

:13:32. > :13:34.job. A lot of Manchester City fans got in touch yesterday before the

:13:35. > :13:41.match and they were pessimistic and it turns out they were right and

:13:42. > :13:45.then they were angry. Should they be concerned about how Manchester City

:13:46. > :13:48.played yesterday? I'm not sure that concerned in the long term. It is

:13:49. > :13:55.like the Liverpool game, too many things went wrong. I disagree with

:13:56. > :13:58.Manuel Pellegrini, last week he said that he has 36 separate injuries

:13:59. > :14:03.this season but he kept saying it isn't an excuse, it depends on how

:14:04. > :14:07.the players play, not the names. They missed the names, we know their

:14:08. > :14:13.record without Kompany, Aguero and Toure and it showed. Silva wasn't

:14:14. > :14:15.match-up. Kevin De Bruyne tried everything but he wasn't finding

:14:16. > :14:19.gaps because of the brilliant Stoke defending. Sterling, he has gone six

:14:20. > :14:24.games without a goal, his defending. Sterling, he has gone six

:14:25. > :14:27.spell at city without a goal. I think he went quite romance with

:14:28. > :14:33.Liverpool last season and he isn't 21 until next week. -- he went four

:14:34. > :14:47.months. On Twitter, saying that Sterling

:14:48. > :14:53.looks afraid to make an impact. The back line still costs more than

:14:54. > :14:56.Stoke without Kompany. Moving on to Chelsea and Bournemouth, we hope to

:14:57. > :15:02.talk to Glenn Murray who scored the goal for Bournemouth at the bridge.

:15:03. > :15:09.Chelsea, 14 points behind Manchester United in fourth place. Looking at

:15:10. > :15:12.the Observer, the sports section, a quotation from Jose Mourinho who

:15:13. > :15:18.says that top four is beyond them. Would you disagree? No, I think it's

:15:19. > :15:21.a long way. I think they are in a position now where they have not

:15:22. > :15:25.been before and that is what they are finding difficult a strange

:15:26. > :15:30.season, nothing comes out of Chelsea. Going back to the doctor

:15:31. > :15:34.and then on. Things coming out of the club that you don't hear and now

:15:35. > :15:37.they are in bad form that they are not used to being in. They are used

:15:38. > :15:42.to winning games. The level of players and manager they have, they

:15:43. > :15:45.don't go on losing streaks like this and it is foreign for them and they

:15:46. > :15:50.don't know how to deal with it and they are struggling.

:15:51. > :15:56.USAir yesterday. Did they have some decisions going against them? The

:15:57. > :16:02.site is too marginal to tell but what about the penalty? I think they

:16:03. > :16:07.were most marginal decisions that can go for against you depending on

:16:08. > :16:10.the day. Neither was clear-cut. But Jose Mourinho's body language and

:16:11. > :16:16.tone afterwards was quite fascinating. He seems to me to be a

:16:17. > :16:21.guy where you expect there to be so much white in the dog, and yet

:16:22. > :16:29.they're just did not seem to be that much. -- fight in the dog. You think

:16:30. > :16:33.he has something up his sleeve for every situation. He seems like a

:16:34. > :16:38.meticulous guy. When he comes in to talk after every game, he has a

:16:39. > :16:42.clear idea of how he will deal with the situation and command it

:16:43. > :16:47.himself. He wants it to be in his control. You felt like he had tried

:16:48. > :16:52.everything, exhausted every possible excuse. No seven minute answers.

:16:53. > :16:58.Blaming this one that one. He was resigned. In his demeanour, I just

:16:59. > :17:02.thought to myself, this is quite interesting and it reveals a

:17:03. > :17:08.different kind of Jose Mourinho. I don't know if he is grappling to try

:17:09. > :17:14.and find his way out of this. They look so contrasting in every way

:17:15. > :17:17.compared to last year. On text, I feel for Jose Mourinho. Stick

:17:18. > :17:23.applied, carrots dangled, nothing works and players not doing enough.

:17:24. > :17:27.I think he has pressed reset in himself. After the Liverpool defeat

:17:28. > :17:31.when the volcano well and truly erupted, it is like he is answering

:17:32. > :17:36.things normally now. As Amy had alluded to, there is almost no

:17:37. > :17:40.attitude, nothing coming. The spark that we are used to seeing seems to

:17:41. > :17:47.have drained at the moment. The whole club even. No sense of the

:17:48. > :17:50.crowd showing any sort of reaction except for just being utterly

:17:51. > :17:56.depressed and resigned to this situation. There was no outrage, no

:17:57. > :18:00.frustration, obviously no sense of mutiny or even support. Just numb. I

:18:01. > :18:05.think that is exactly where they are. I don't see the point in

:18:06. > :18:09.changing Jose Mourinho. They will not be relegated and they will not

:18:10. > :18:15.win the title. For a whole season they will pretty much be there.

:18:16. > :18:20.Stuck in indifference? I cannot see what a new manager would do for

:18:21. > :18:28.Chelsea. Do you think they will click and go on a run? You are just

:18:29. > :18:33.waiting for it to happen. Why? I don't know why! Another opinion

:18:34. > :18:38.poll? Rain the quality of players that they have got, they should not

:18:39. > :18:43.be where they are. It is a false position. You just wait for the day.

:18:44. > :18:48.Somebody will get a hiding of them. I thought it would be Bournemouth, I

:18:49. > :18:51.admit. That must be the most surprised all season, that result,

:18:52. > :18:58.apart from Gary Neville getting the Valencia job! Two surprises in a

:18:59. > :19:03.week! Let's go to Gary Murray who got the goal at Stamford Bridge but

:19:04. > :19:08.first his manager. It is probably the biggest result in the club's

:19:09. > :19:12.history. You come to a side like Chelsea and you expect a tough game

:19:13. > :19:16.and we got that but we were able to defend our goal and I thought we

:19:17. > :19:21.looked like a constant menace. When the goal came it was a good time for

:19:22. > :19:27.us. Gives result in the club's history? It is and the club has

:19:28. > :19:30.never been in the Premier League before. To win away against

:19:31. > :19:34.champions is something we will talk about for a long time to come.

:19:35. > :19:38.Hopefully there will be more moments ahead of us and we hope we can use

:19:39. > :19:42.this as a springboard to produce more magic days like this. That was

:19:43. > :19:49.Eddie Howe. Glenn Murray got the goal yesterday. Good afternoon.

:19:50. > :19:53.Hello. The biggest result in the club's history, meaning you got the

:19:54. > :20:05.biggest goal in the history of the club. I suppose so! In the dressing

:20:06. > :20:07.room afterwards where you celebrating as though it was the

:20:08. > :20:11.biggest result? Were you trying to keep a lid on things? We understand

:20:12. > :20:17.where we are in the league and how difficult our job is to stay in it.

:20:18. > :20:23.I think it was more of a relief. Just knowing that we got a vital

:20:24. > :20:28.three points. Do you think it could completely change your season? Is

:20:29. > :20:33.that going overboard? I think it will give us a lot of belief, which

:20:34. > :20:37.is what we need. We have been playing better recently. It started

:20:38. > :20:40.about four games ago against Newcastle. We really dominated the

:20:41. > :20:45.game and possession but could not get the ball into the net on the

:20:46. > :20:49.afternoon. Since then, at Swansea against Everton, we have been

:20:50. > :21:02.progressing. I think the belief is growing within the squad. Hello. You

:21:03. > :21:04.probably don't remember because you were celebrating after your goal,

:21:05. > :21:07.but as soon as the goal went in and you are all going crazy at 18, your

:21:08. > :21:09.manager and coaching staff were gesticulating furiously for

:21:10. > :21:12.everybody to calm down and use their heads, which is completely

:21:13. > :21:15.understanding given the circumstances with a few minutes to

:21:16. > :21:22.go. But it seems like you kept attacking. Yes, this has been

:21:23. > :21:26.touched on in training in the past few weeks, that we need to

:21:27. > :21:30.concentrate straight after goals, because it can be a weak moment for

:21:31. > :21:37.us. He was just trying to get that message over again. I thought it

:21:38. > :21:41.worked. We were better attacking, not sitting back and defending

:21:42. > :21:47.against a team like Chelsea. With the quality they have got. Going

:21:48. > :21:50.forward with it is better for us. There has been a huge debate in the

:21:51. > :21:54.media about styles and whether you can play like you did in the

:21:55. > :21:57.championship, and whether Norwich have changed their style to concede

:21:58. > :22:01.less goals in the Premier League. The debate has gone on in the media.

:22:02. > :22:09.We know how meticulous Eddie Howe is, so have you had the same debates

:22:10. > :22:21.as a group of players? No, I mean obviously a lot of the group has

:22:22. > :22:24.been under the gaffer for a while and they understand his velocity and

:22:25. > :22:29.believe in it 100% and I am just jumping on that bandwagon. As far as

:22:30. > :22:31.the next few weeks ago, how you played against Chelsea, can you

:22:32. > :22:36.repeat that against Manchester United next week, the next game?

:22:37. > :22:40.Obviously that is the aim and to pick up as many points as we can

:22:41. > :22:44.along the way. The belief has grown in the squad and in the velocity as

:22:45. > :22:50.well and that has shown in our performances. -- the philosophy.

:22:51. > :22:58.Thank you very much and we wish you well for the rest of the season.

:22:59. > :23:03.Glenn Murray on Match Of The Day. Is this a springboard? It has to be.

:23:04. > :23:07.That performance against Newcastle, how they lost that is anybody's gas.

:23:08. > :23:11.It looked to be the turning point for Bournemouth and then another bad

:23:12. > :23:16.result after that so they have to use this. Glenn Murray, if he gets a

:23:17. > :23:22.few more goals, he is up there with Jamie Vardy. He has scored at the

:23:23. > :23:26.lower levels. He got goals with Crystal Palace, got injured, not

:23:27. > :23:30.needed at the new regime, then into the Premier League. If he is free of

:23:31. > :23:35.injuries, he could get goals at the top level. I am inventing the fact

:23:36. > :23:43.that Jose Mourinho is moving closer to leaving English football. --

:23:44. > :23:50.lamenting the fact. And Simon, credit to Bournemouth. You have got

:23:51. > :23:55.to beat you up relegation rivals! I only read these out! There is a

:23:56. > :24:02.match going on between Rochdale and Bury, 1-0. That will be on later.

:24:03. > :24:10.And dwelling against Carlisle at 2 o'clock with highlights on BBC Two

:24:11. > :24:16.at six o'clock. -- Welling. And now let's talk about Leicester, winning

:24:17. > :24:22.3-0 at Swansea. Riyad Mahrez got a hat-trick. One win in 11 for

:24:23. > :24:26.Swansea. This is Garry Monk. I know the history of this club. I have

:24:27. > :24:32.been part of that history and I have worked very hard at what I do as a

:24:33. > :24:36.player and now as a manager and it is extremely frustrating. Same for

:24:37. > :24:40.the players. We have to be very careful, we are in a very difficult

:24:41. > :24:46.situation in the league. We need to get results very quickly and find a

:24:47. > :24:50.way of playing that is back to what Swansea expect and what I expect and

:24:51. > :24:55.what this club expects. That is the most important part. Do you remain

:24:56. > :24:59.confident that the current squad can achieve that? I always have great

:25:00. > :25:01.confident that the current squad can belief in the players and we have

:25:02. > :25:06.achieved history for this club. I have seen what those players can do

:25:07. > :25:10.and we have achieved some fantastic things and results against many good

:25:11. > :25:20.teams. We are in a period where we cannot quite get back to that level.

:25:21. > :25:22.If you are watching us on BBC Two or the website, I don't know if you

:25:23. > :25:28.thought this, but he looks absolutely exhausted. Drain. A man

:25:29. > :25:31.under pressure but knowing the type of player that he was, he will not

:25:32. > :25:35.be going away from the training ground early. He will not take this

:25:36. > :25:40.light-hearted. Every moment of his day will be focused on that club

:25:41. > :25:43.because they are in a rut. I watched the game yesterday and they had so

:25:44. > :25:48.many chances against them. Jamie Vardy getting the record, he had one

:25:49. > :25:53.great chance in the first half and yet they lost heavily. It could have

:25:54. > :25:58.been more because Leicester had so much against them and they looked

:25:59. > :26:03.like they were in disarray. Garry Monk, in the same way we talk about

:26:04. > :26:06.Eddie Howe, is so dedicated. There are stories about him wearing a

:26:07. > :26:11.microphone in training so he can analyse back his commands to make

:26:12. > :26:15.sure he is giving them the right instructions in the right tone of

:26:16. > :26:20.voice. The more you delve into the details, the more pressure you put

:26:21. > :26:25.on yourself. Only he can put pressure on himself. It depends on

:26:26. > :26:29.his personal character. I think it is amazing what has happened to

:26:30. > :26:34.Swansea. When I saw them beat Manchester United, I thought here we

:26:35. > :26:38.go, better season than last season. It is interesting that he talks

:26:39. > :26:43.about the club's history. I don't think the club's hierarchy deals

:26:44. > :26:47.with history now. He and Jenkins saved the club and I think they only

:26:48. > :26:52.look forward on a daily basis. It is all part of the plan. Michael, you

:26:53. > :26:56.have done what you can do, off you go. They are all moving on. I don't

:26:57. > :27:00.think it matters that he has been part of the club's history. They

:27:01. > :27:05.have to think seriously about the very near future at the moment. Do

:27:06. > :27:10.you think they need to realise more that actually they are not pushing

:27:11. > :27:16.for seventh, eighth, ninth, Europa League places. They are in a Europa

:27:17. > :27:24.League battle. I think they realise that, don't they? I don't know. The

:27:25. > :27:28.players, the owners? The club in general. You look at the last few

:27:29. > :27:31.seasons they have had, the seasons of progression, and that becomes

:27:32. > :27:35.your modus operandi and how you feel about yourself. When you get this

:27:36. > :27:44.shot, like with the Chelsea players, they are not used to being in this

:27:45. > :27:47.position and it can be difficult. Eddie Howe was saying yesterday that

:27:48. > :27:50.his players were used to winning every game last season. That was in

:27:51. > :27:53.the championship and for Bournemouth players it is hard to get their

:27:54. > :27:57.heads round the idea that they are not winning any more. I like

:27:58. > :28:01.Bournemouth. This sounds stupid but there is a way to lose a football

:28:02. > :28:04.match and Bournemouth play correctly. They are always in games.

:28:05. > :28:08.They don't get thrashed every week. They look like they are going to be

:28:09. > :28:13.in games but Swansea yesterday did not look anywhere near. Not so long

:28:14. > :28:28.ago they were in that position where they played great football and were

:28:29. > :28:31.confident. Maybe that is my point. They need to work out how to win

:28:32. > :28:34.games again. If that is ugly, basic, nicking 1-0, that will do them some

:28:35. > :28:39.good. They have to stay in the league. Now the remit is to keep the

:28:40. > :28:42.club in the Premiership this year. They are hurtling towards a

:28:43. > :28:48.relegation battle. Monk deserves to go. He deserves a couple more games

:28:49. > :28:53.but I don't think he will be getting them. If they sack him, bring back

:28:54. > :28:58.Brendan Rodgers but some newspapers are suggesting Brendan Moyes. The

:28:59. > :29:03.People in particular. Great job for David Moyes, but he is still in situ

:29:04. > :29:10.and he will get them going again. This time last year, I am sure if

:29:11. > :29:14.you pull out a MOTD2 Extra from this time a year ago, which must be a

:29:15. > :29:19.very boring day! We were saying things like that about Nigel Pearson

:29:20. > :29:22.and now look at Leicester. Partly because of what the players are

:29:23. > :29:28.telling me and Claudio Ranieri, I don't want to say can they? Will

:29:29. > :29:32.they? They could have had five, six, seven. They were bottom of the

:29:33. > :29:37.league after the same amount of games last year. So to go from rock

:29:38. > :29:42.bottom to sitting proudly on top and deserving to be there is completely

:29:43. > :29:47.extraordinary. I love the way that cloudy Ranieri has taken what was

:29:48. > :29:52.achieved last year and tweaked it. -- Claudio Ranieri. He has not made

:29:53. > :30:07.enormous changes. You were talking last night on Match Of The Day about

:30:08. > :30:10.Kante coming on and his impact, but he wanted players to play every

:30:11. > :30:15.moment as though they are desperate. It is fine in a relegation battle

:30:16. > :30:20.but difficult at the top of a league. To be desperate at every

:30:21. > :30:22.minute of the game for it to be going their way, but that is what

:30:23. > :30:32.they are managing to achieve. It is great for football, for a team

:30:33. > :30:38.like Leicester to be top of the league. Will they finish there? I

:30:39. > :30:41.don't think so. Top four is a big ask for them. The possibility of

:30:42. > :30:47.Leicester City in the Champions League, brilliant. That is a strong

:30:48. > :30:52.possibility. As to whether they can, they can, they are there to be shot

:30:53. > :30:55.at and they are beating everybody. We were talking before the

:30:56. > :31:01.programme, when is the last time a team won the league who really came

:31:02. > :31:08.from... Hang on, they are not the champions of England? The Leeds team

:31:09. > :31:12.from 1992, you would have them, Blackburn have the money. I think we

:31:13. > :31:18.are talking about Nottingham Forest and Derby, the days of Brian Clough.

:31:19. > :31:23.I know that Leeds are Leeds but they were not expected, that year. Still

:31:24. > :31:30.a strong team, Leeds United, who died that too much of an eye. -- at

:31:31. > :31:35.an eye. But this is going back to the 70s. Mark says that as a

:31:36. > :31:41.Leicester FC Faheem Khan stop smiling. Calvin says that the title

:31:42. > :31:47.may not be this time but the top four is. The next game they have is

:31:48. > :31:52.Chelsea at home on a Monday night. We will be going there to cover the

:31:53. > :31:57.game, fans will go to the game probably expecting them to win it.

:31:58. > :32:02.Now, does that change it from the player's point of view? The

:32:03. > :32:05.atmosphere may be different? Football is about confidence and

:32:06. > :32:09.they are a confident team. They will relish the fact that Chelsea are

:32:10. > :32:12.coming to a home game on a Monday night, it will be packed and they

:32:13. > :32:18.will be expected to win. Confidence is a huge factor. It is difficult to

:32:19. > :32:23.get out of a winning run. Chelsea won't be looking forward to going

:32:24. > :32:27.there. That's the one, that's the test of this nonscientific theory

:32:28. > :32:32.all round. Many of us expected Chelsea to go on a run, for reasons

:32:33. > :32:35.we can't put our finger on and many of us expect Leicester's bubble to

:32:36. > :32:42.burst. Manchester United, drawing 0-0 with West Ham yesterday, their

:32:43. > :32:48.fifth in nine games. Here is Louis van Gaal. When you walk down the

:32:49. > :32:51.tunnel and you heard a bit of disgruntlement from supporters, can

:32:52. > :32:56.you understand that from the fans? No, I don't think so because they

:32:57. > :33:01.have seen that there was the fighting spirit until the end, they

:33:02. > :33:08.have seen that we created chances. They have seen that we have attacked

:33:09. > :33:16.with a lot of people. So you cannot always demand that we score goals.

:33:17. > :33:27.Because there's also a little bit of luck. But the fans have the right to

:33:28. > :33:31.show their opinion. Manchester United, are they not scoring goals

:33:32. > :33:36.because they are lacking luck? No, I think they are not scoring because

:33:37. > :33:43.they are playing too defensively and not creating chances. I don't think

:33:44. > :33:46.they have anybody... In 2013, when Sir Alex Ferguson was in this

:33:47. > :33:53.situation, he knew that he needed goals, every one of his teams have

:33:54. > :33:58.had goals. He went for van Nistelrooy, Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke.

:33:59. > :34:06.They haven't had that this year. Yeah, I would agree with that! Let

:34:07. > :34:09.me give you some stats to help you. Javier Hernandez scored for Bayer

:34:10. > :34:12.Leverkusen yesterday, 11th in ten, Shinji Kagawa got the winner for

:34:13. > :34:18.Boris ea Dortmund, James Wilson scored on loan for Brighton, and

:34:19. > :34:23.will clean, on loan at Preston from United, scoring for them against

:34:24. > :34:29.Birmingham -- Boris ea Dortmund. Would you put any of them in the

:34:30. > :34:34.Manchester United starting line-up? Possibly Javier Hernandez. But he

:34:35. > :34:37.never did when he was there. What is really an helpful for Manchester

:34:38. > :34:43.United at the moment is what is going on not very far away. When

:34:44. > :34:48.there is a lot of analysis about the style, the atmosphere, the sense of

:34:49. > :34:56.boredom, you could argue that van Gaal in that interview looked a bit

:34:57. > :35:00.bored! But you know, the contrast, when you see the electricity going

:35:01. > :35:05.at Anfield under Jurgen Klopp and how quickly the team can change from

:35:06. > :35:10.drifting a little bit and looking like there isn't a great vibe around

:35:11. > :35:14.the place, and people are not putting into practice what the

:35:15. > :35:18.manager wants, because presumably he does not want 0-0 jaws, or something

:35:19. > :35:24.is not right, to a feeling of a totally cohesive, brilliantly

:35:25. > :35:29.inspired, everybody feeling amazing sort of vibe going on at Anfield --

:35:30. > :35:34.draws. It is probably something that exacerbates, if you like, the debate

:35:35. > :35:37.around Manchester United. I'm going to ask you a question about Pep

:35:38. > :35:43.Guardiola and Louis van Gaal in a moment. Firstly, it is FA Cup second

:35:44. > :35:49.round weekend, it is what style against Bury, a big derby. It is

:35:50. > :35:54.half-time. A cracking first 35 minutes -- 45 minutes. What style

:35:55. > :35:58.trailing thanks to Danny Rose's eighth minute diving header but that

:35:59. > :36:06.does not tell them. We of a good local derby -- and Rochdale. --

:36:07. > :36:10.really good local derby. Danny Blackman twice denied Henderson from

:36:11. > :36:15.close range. The second, I have no idea how he got a part of his body

:36:16. > :36:20.on it and deflecting it wide. Bury had chances to double the lead,

:36:21. > :36:24.Danny McCue came and delivered one in, Peter Clarke had a header that

:36:25. > :36:31.went in but was ruled out. Terrific banter in the technical area as well

:36:32. > :36:38.between big Dale and Flitcroft. I don't know how to interpret

:36:39. > :36:43."terrific banter". Let me ask you, many papers saying that Manchester

:36:44. > :36:47.United, even if Pep Guardiola becomes available this summer and

:36:48. > :36:51.leaves Bayern Munich, that they will stick with Louis van Gaal. The fact

:36:52. > :36:55.that several papers have it suggests that somebody has briefed them. Do

:36:56. > :37:01.we know that there is no chance of getting him, then? I don't see the

:37:02. > :37:07.milage in issuing a statement. A conversation, an idea. I don't quite

:37:08. > :37:11.see, someone has talked but I don't see the point in it. I don't think

:37:12. > :37:16.it does Louis van Gaal and United very good. Does it come from

:37:17. > :37:20.Guardiola? I think most of us think that the Barcelona connection can if

:37:21. > :37:24.he comes to England, it is Manchester City but we don't know

:37:25. > :37:28.what he's thinking. Bayern Munich lost yesterday so he still has a

:37:29. > :37:34.challenge. The you think in some ways United have ruled themselves

:37:35. > :37:40.out? Because they were never in! United have a habit of having these

:37:41. > :37:44.briefings, there will be a story that is everywhere, it is what they

:37:45. > :37:50.do quite generally but I agree with Guy, it seems a nonsensical thing to

:37:51. > :37:57.do at this point in time. You could argue it is a weird backhanded vote

:37:58. > :38:01.of confidence in van Gaal, saying that even if Guardiola was available

:38:02. > :38:06.they wouldn't take him, but I can only see them taking that stance...

:38:07. > :38:09.They must know that it is a nonstarter, they may have had some

:38:10. > :38:15.conversations and are aware they are not in the picture. If they were in

:38:16. > :38:17.the picture, if Manchester United go out in the Champions League against

:38:18. > :38:23.Wolfsburg, that may change their thinking? I don't know, I don't

:38:24. > :38:26.think van Gaal has done a bad job. He steadied the ship and has put

:38:27. > :38:31.Manchester United back where they should be. We can't forget the job

:38:32. > :38:35.he has done. I don't think the fans are happy with the style of football

:38:36. > :38:39.and the fact they are not scoring goals, but they are not conceding

:38:40. > :38:43.goals, by not losing. I don't think he's done a bad job, I don't think

:38:44. > :38:48.his job is available. In the Champions League it is a big week

:38:49. > :38:53.for Arsenal, or do you think there is a resignation that it is going to

:38:54. > :38:59.be hard to get through? It's a big week for Arsene Wenger rather than

:39:00. > :39:02.Arsenal. Arsene Wenger talks often about his record in the Champions

:39:03. > :39:07.League, it is a defence mechanism. When he's under pressure it is the

:39:08. > :39:11.first thing he turns to. Not many clubs have qualified as many years

:39:12. > :39:14.in a row sequentially as Arsenal, not just to get to the Champions

:39:15. > :39:18.League but getting out of the group stage. He's proud of that, he is a

:39:19. > :39:24.proud man and he wants to sustain it. Personally, apart from anything

:39:25. > :39:28.else because if they go through they will go out in the first 16 anyway,

:39:29. > :39:34.it is part of him being able to say, look around Europe, tell me how many

:39:35. > :39:38.teams have done 15, 16 years in a row getting into the Champions

:39:39. > :39:42.League and the group stage? I know we don't know, that's the beauty of

:39:43. > :39:52.the game, but do you think they will do it? I think they would have done

:39:53. > :39:55.it if Alexis Sanchez were there. Newcastle and the Nepal is the one

:39:56. > :40:01.funnier league game this afternoon. -- and Liverpool. David says that

:40:02. > :40:03.the problem at Newcastle goes beyond the players, the fans deserve more

:40:04. > :40:09.than this but this under Mike Ashley. There are reports that Steve

:40:10. > :40:12.McClaren has two games to save his Newcastle career, which would be

:40:13. > :40:18.Liverpool and Spurs. Good luck with that! It isn't looking good, is it?

:40:19. > :40:24.I don't know if it's as clear as that. I think it is reasonably good

:40:25. > :40:28.knowledge that Steve McClaren is on the Newcastle board and he plays a

:40:29. > :40:32.part in some of the decision-making. I don't know, I don't know if it is

:40:33. > :40:37.that close but if they get thrashed today and the mood really turns,

:40:38. > :40:45.there is every possibility against Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool of that,

:40:46. > :40:48.then there is that possibility. He mentioned confidence 34 times in the

:40:49. > :40:52.press Conference ahead of the game. What is he like when things get

:40:53. > :40:56.tough? From the outside looking in, he has lost the dressing room and

:40:57. > :40:59.the players are not playing for him. They folded so easily against

:41:00. > :41:03.Crystal Palace and when you are playing against a team with no

:41:04. > :41:07.confidence, there are divisions, you can see. There is no leadership,

:41:08. > :41:11.they have no experience leaders, nobody wants to fight and work off

:41:12. > :41:16.the ball. Nobody wants to dig in and win the ball. It seems to me from

:41:17. > :41:20.the outside that he has lost the players. That is against the

:41:21. > :41:25.players, rather than him, isn't it? As a professional, you have a

:41:26. > :41:30.responsibility, you have to look after yourself and the players are

:41:31. > :41:36.not doing it. The manager cannot control the players this much. It

:41:37. > :41:43.looks like they lacked leadership and direction. Say that Newcastle is

:41:44. > :41:49.a hard place to full Bale -- hard place to play. Newcastle have not

:41:50. > :41:51.won the league since 55. The fans demand application and performance

:41:52. > :41:58.and they are not getting it. Can he rant and rave? Yes, he can throw the

:41:59. > :42:03.teacups around, and he's a very good coach, a very good coach. They need

:42:04. > :42:08.a bit more, don't they? When you say he's a good coach, that's the big

:42:09. > :42:14.debate at the moment, between coach and manager. Yeah, for me, in my

:42:15. > :42:17.situation with England, his man management, how he handled my

:42:18. > :42:20.situation, I didn't think he was great. He may have developed, but

:42:21. > :42:27.for me, his man management skills were lacking. Is it true, is it

:42:28. > :42:30.generally considered, the higher level you get, international and

:42:31. > :42:35.European level, is it more about the man management and coaching? Because

:42:36. > :42:37.the players can presumably play. Man management is a huge part of it,

:42:38. > :42:42.getting to know your players and getting the best out of them. The

:42:43. > :42:52.England manager's job, being together for ten days, you need a

:42:53. > :42:55.good man management and -- man management and tactician. It is

:42:56. > :42:59.tactical and leadership. Are you surprised that in the time he has

:43:00. > :43:03.had he has not engineered more of a change with that group? Yes because

:43:04. > :43:07.he has signed his own players as well, he brought in what he wanted

:43:08. > :43:14.to bring in. It surprised me, the lack of success they've had and how

:43:15. > :43:18.quickly it has dipped. And Liverpool, if they win this today,

:43:19. > :43:22.there will be a few more people putting a few quid on them. But it

:43:23. > :43:28.now, they are title contenders, no doubt. I think we all have a love

:43:29. > :43:35.affair from afar with Jurgen Klopp, until he came to the country but he

:43:36. > :43:39.is motivation and enthusiasm, what he gives the players. Daniel

:43:40. > :43:44.Sturridge, his constant injury, it seems it isn't now, he told him it

:43:45. > :43:48.isn't and it isn't. Remarkable. Final text from Hassan, he says that

:43:49. > :43:54.this season will be a 2 horse race between Leicester and Liverpool.

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