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:00:08. > :00:39.Welcome to Match Of The Day two Extra on the final day of what has

:00:40. > :00:46.been an extraordinary season. We are on BBC Radio jersey, five live, and

:00:47. > :00:52.the BBC sport website. -- BBC Radio Two. Will it be Manchester City or

:00:53. > :00:57.will Liverpool clinched their first title since 1990? We will be live at

:00:58. > :01:01.the Etihad Stadium and Anfield to capture the mood. We will speak

:01:02. > :01:06.about relegation. It looks like we will be saying goodbye to Norwich.

:01:07. > :01:11.We will look ahead to the England World Cup squad announcement

:01:12. > :01:20.tomorrow. In the studio... We have Martin Key own, Kevin Kilbane and

:01:21. > :01:25.Sam Wallace. -- Martin Keown. We want you to get in touch. You can

:01:26. > :01:32.get in touch by text, on the Facebook page, and we thought we

:01:33. > :01:38.would like you to sum up your Premier league season in four

:01:39. > :01:43.words. Send them to us and we will read them out over the course of the

:01:44. > :01:49.next 45 minutes. All sorts of stuff on the back pages. A mixture of the

:01:50. > :01:54.title race and the Roy Hodgson's England squad. Sam Wallace, there

:01:55. > :01:58.should be a lot of stuff on Manchester City. The back of the

:01:59. > :02:04.Daily Mail quotes Greg Dyke, he says, if Manchester City win the

:02:05. > :02:11.title it would be depressing because they've only got two regular England

:02:12. > :02:14.players. I can see his point. Manchester City fans will not want

:02:15. > :02:18.to hear it but you would like a team with a greater English

:02:19. > :02:21.representation. In their defence, they are building an enormous

:02:22. > :02:29.training ground across the road from their stadium, the owners have only

:02:30. > :02:33.been there six years and it takes a generation to bring players through.

:02:34. > :02:38.I think Greg Dyke has said some pretty provocative things that are

:02:39. > :02:41.on the law end of the scale. Not putting words into the mouths of

:02:42. > :02:47.Manchester City fans but they will not care less, will they? That is

:02:48. > :02:51.it. It is about getting the title won. They are building it up, they

:02:52. > :02:56.are getting the best talent from around the world, but it is about

:02:57. > :03:00.getting the talent in from this country as well, getting them

:03:01. > :03:05.developed in and around that campus. Martin, let me throw another thing

:03:06. > :03:12.at you from the papers, the front page of The Times. A quote from Jose

:03:13. > :03:18.Mourinho. Edin Dzeko should be Player of the Year. He says they

:03:19. > :03:23.should come from the champions. I do agree that it would be nice but I

:03:24. > :03:26.would have gone for Yaya Toure. I think it was a tongue-in-cheek

:03:27. > :03:33.comment. Luis Suarez has been magnificent. He has fluffed his

:03:34. > :03:38.lines recently. I think he is talking about a striker that does

:03:39. > :03:44.the job and gets on professionally. Luis Suarez has been brilliant at

:03:45. > :03:50.times. You have a theory, don't you? He might fancy signing him. He might

:03:51. > :03:58.be able to have a nibble at Edin Dzeko. If his first target does not

:03:59. > :04:02.work out, he fits the bill. We will go to the Etihad Stadium shortly.

:04:03. > :04:06.Let us get a view from the Manchester City camp. Gary Lineker

:04:07. > :04:11.has been speaking to Vincent Kompany.

:04:12. > :04:17.I imagine you don't expect something as dramatic this time. Anything is

:04:18. > :04:24.possible in football. Last time, it made me age, that is how stressful

:04:25. > :04:30.it was. It still remains my best memory in football so far. If that

:04:31. > :04:34.is what it has to be then we will be prepared for it. We will certainly

:04:35. > :04:37.not be giving anything up. From the point of view of the players, how

:04:38. > :04:41.important is that experience of having been there and done it? Even

:04:42. > :04:48.just on the final day of the season. Without doubt, when I was

:04:49. > :04:52.able to win it in 1998, more than ever was I reliant on the likes of

:04:53. > :04:56.Tony Adams around me to help me get over the line. In later years, there

:04:57. > :05:03.was a way to behave, you trusted people about you, you made sure you

:05:04. > :05:07.were professional, did not let things slip away. This is a second

:05:08. > :05:12.chance for Manchester City. There is no way they will let this be thrown

:05:13. > :05:18.away. When you talk about a way to behave, are you talking about being

:05:19. > :05:24.cam? Without doubt, it is a mindset. -- being serene. You trust people

:05:25. > :05:29.around you, you do your job, less is more, you trust everybody to do

:05:30. > :05:34.their jobs, and it almost takes care of itself. Some people will score of

:05:35. > :05:38.the important goals. It is when you go charging around, it becomes hard

:05:39. > :05:42.work, the crowd are involved, there is too much emotion, you need to be

:05:43. > :05:47.professional to finish it off and stop the experience of winning it

:05:48. > :05:52.against QPR will help them today. We spoke on Wednesday, watching

:05:53. > :05:57.Manchester City against Aston Villa, even though there were nervous

:05:58. > :06:02.around the stadium, the players kept doing what they were doing. Aston

:06:03. > :06:08.Villa helped because they kept dropping deeper, but they continued

:06:09. > :06:16.to probe, press, they moved the ball likely, it was not just side to

:06:17. > :06:21.side. -- quickly. David Silva was getting into the whole. They

:06:22. > :06:24.continued to get wide. Pablo Zabaleta kept doing the things he

:06:25. > :06:29.was doing. If you continue to do that, they will score. I'm convinced

:06:30. > :06:32.that Manchester City will score today, so ultimately I think it will

:06:33. > :06:42.be enough because I cannot see them conceding two goals. If they fail,

:06:43. > :06:47.it is the biggest joke in modern football history, incompatible even

:06:48. > :06:58.when you compare them to Liverpool in 1989. If they throw it away we

:06:59. > :07:01.will be talking about it for years. The biggest joke in football

:07:02. > :07:11.history. You will get some reaction to that. -- choke. Is there a sense

:07:12. > :07:16.of serenity? to that. -- choke. Is there a sense

:07:17. > :07:20.people here at the moment. It is mixed with anxiety. I don't think

:07:21. > :07:24.they have mixed with anxiety. I don't think

:07:25. > :07:29.the stories in the morning paper about the money issue, the fact that

:07:30. > :07:29.the stories in the morning paper the title. That is if they

:07:30. > :07:34.the stories in the morning paper It is a very different day to two

:07:35. > :07:36.the stories in the morning paper years ago. And standing in front of

:07:37. > :07:41.the goal where Sergio Aguero scored the dramatic title winning goal.

:07:42. > :07:45.Very different feeling, they don't need to win, they only need to draw.

:07:46. > :07:52.From weather, it is going to rain at any moment. -- different weather.

:07:53. > :07:56.Conditions will be different, it poured down on Wednesday, I was here

:07:57. > :08:00.for that match, and I wonder whether the crowd nerves will play a part.

:08:01. > :08:06.In the first half on Wednesday against Aston Villa, this place got

:08:07. > :08:12.very anxious. It transmitted itself to the players, and Manuel

:08:13. > :08:16.Pellegrini calmed them down. They heard that message and they

:08:17. > :08:21.demolished Aston Villa in the second half. There will be nervous,

:08:22. > :08:26.especially if news comes through that Aston Villa -- and Liverpool

:08:27. > :08:32.are leading. The players, however good they are, nerves can do strange

:08:33. > :08:36.things. We could have a twist yet. Do you get a sense when talking to

:08:37. > :08:39.people at the club that in many ways, although they are obviously

:08:40. > :08:44.concerning themselves with winning the title, they do have one eye on

:08:45. > :08:51.what might happen tomorrow and the whole financial fear plaything? I

:08:52. > :08:58.think so. -- financial fair play thing. This is big news, they win

:08:59. > :09:01.the title, in the Champions League, but can they compete going forward?

:09:02. > :09:08.I think there is a little bit of that. The focus today is on winning

:09:09. > :09:12.the title, they cannot let anything distract them. I think they are

:09:13. > :09:17.finding the headlines are little bit distracting.

:09:18. > :09:25.Do you think Manchester City have every reason to feel they are being

:09:26. > :09:29.got that? The basis of the story is they have been found in breach of

:09:30. > :09:37.financial fear play. They will make a judgement on the sanctions. --

:09:38. > :09:42.fair play. They knew the rules, and however you felt about them, it

:09:43. > :09:47.began being about debt and ended up being about overspending. But I'm

:09:48. > :09:52.afraid, these are the regulations, and therefore it is not the

:09:53. > :09:59.newspapers going after them, it is simply if they do win the title, the

:10:00. > :10:05.story that will follow will be what UEFA have decided is the punishment.

:10:06. > :10:09.I appreciate it is not the newspapers going after them but, if

:10:10. > :10:14.we put it another way, maybe they are not getting the credit you would

:10:15. > :10:23.normally expect the title winners to get. Is that they are? Yes. -- Is

:10:24. > :10:27.that fair? If they win this, Manuel Pellegrini has got two trophies in

:10:28. > :10:33.the first season. It is not doom and gloom. They have the nucleus of a

:10:34. > :10:38.great site. On today's game, it is not about an individual, it is about

:10:39. > :10:43.the collective team doing the job defensively. -- great side. The team

:10:44. > :10:47.will come together and it will all happen. It will not be one

:10:48. > :10:51.individual who will win the game, I'll be at, someone will be the hero

:10:52. > :10:58.at the end of it. -- except someone will be. For words to describe

:10:59. > :11:05.Manchester City, nobody mentions planned well -- Manuel Pellegrini.

:11:06. > :11:10.It is Gus Poyet, Brendan Rodgers, those are the ones people are

:11:11. > :11:13.talking about. I think he has been a breath of fresh air, he has come in

:11:14. > :11:18.and let the players be themselves, they have gone on to another level.

:11:19. > :11:24.Under Roberto Mancini you felt he was not in love with the players, it

:11:25. > :11:29.was confrontation. All the strikers have made huge contributions. The

:11:30. > :11:32.spine of that team. When you see Vincent Kompany, he speaks like a

:11:33. > :11:38.manager. It is fantastic to have a player like that. You have Yaya

:11:39. > :11:41.Toure, Sergio Aguero, so many good players. They have tripped up along

:11:42. > :11:45.the way, they should have been in front when you look at those squads,

:11:46. > :11:50.whether that is financial doping, the way they have been allowed to

:11:51. > :11:53.buy these players, and whether there will be any legal ramifications

:11:54. > :11:56.afterwards, it will not matter to the players. They want to go out and

:11:57. > :12:00.win the Premier league and that is the only thing they have got their

:12:01. > :12:04.eyes on. Given the financial penalties that could happen, as

:12:05. > :12:14.regards Champions League, the number of players, do you expect them to

:12:15. > :12:18.strengthen? Within the boundaries that they can. They might need to

:12:19. > :12:22.sell. You think of the limitations of a Premier league squad, only 25

:12:23. > :12:26.players. It is not his fault they have done this, he has only comment

:12:27. > :12:32.in the last year and he has done very well. Look at what he did with

:12:33. > :12:35.Edin Dzeko, he was totally disenchanted with Roberto Mancini,

:12:36. > :12:42.he has played so well in the absence of Sergio Aguero. He has obviously

:12:43. > :12:48.man managed him very well. He had one little dip, after the Barcelona

:12:49. > :12:53.game, where he ranted about the referee. He is not the Iceman,

:12:54. > :12:59.impervious to pressure, but the way he has handled Jose Mourinho has

:13:00. > :13:05.been dignified. The two big ones were Joe Hart, where he relieved

:13:06. > :13:08.him, Joe Hart did not moan, he has come back and been outstanding. The

:13:09. > :13:18.other was Martin Kaymer careless. His last ten or 15 games have been

:13:19. > :13:21.different. -- Martin Demichelis. Everyone says that was a turning

:13:22. > :13:29.point. It was. He marshalled the defence. He organised the back four.

:13:30. > :13:34.It was an incredible performance. He has gone on from there. He grew from

:13:35. > :13:40.that performance and he has been a leader. Two of them have been

:13:41. > :13:44.outstanding. There was the Champions League when he got sent off, and in

:13:45. > :13:47.that period it was not great, and you look at him and you say that

:13:48. > :13:52.they could buy someone better, but credit to him, since then he has

:13:53. > :13:59.done exceptionally well. His manager has stuck by him. Let me read some

:14:00. > :14:05.of your words. Arsenal, same old, same old. Chelsea, need a striker.

:14:06. > :14:09.Tottenham fan in Surrey, we'd like some stability. Fulham fan, he names

:14:10. > :14:19.the managers. Moving from Manchester City to

:14:20. > :14:23.Liverpool as we discussed the title race on the final day of the season.

:14:24. > :14:28.Before we go there let's hear from Brendan Rodgers.

:14:29. > :14:38.We can only concentrate on our job, to win the game. We want to finish

:14:39. > :14:43.strongly. We know this will be a tough game. The combination of us at

:14:44. > :14:52.home and our supporters has been fantastic for us as a team. 16

:14:53. > :14:59.victories out of 19. It is a great return for us. For them, West Ham

:15:00. > :15:05.have some really talented players. If you can go to Tottenham and win

:15:06. > :15:09.3-0 you can certainly go to Manchester City and do that.

:15:10. > :15:15.Interesting logic from Brendan Rodgers. Shall we go to Anfield?

:15:16. > :15:20.Steve Wilson is there. We spent a lot of time talking about the

:15:21. > :15:33.Anfield atmosphere, what is it like today? It is a little different. It

:15:34. > :15:39.was probably topped by the Chelsea game. Not quite the same buzz around

:15:40. > :15:43.here. Liverpool fans, and hope. I don't think there is an enormous

:15:44. > :15:45.here. Liverpool fans, and hope. I amount of expectation that

:15:46. > :15:52.here. Liverpool fans, and hope. I will slip up. Let me introduce a

:15:53. > :16:02.Liverpool legend. He won the title eight times with the club. Phil

:16:03. > :16:08.Neal. Any chance? You are clearly hoping Liverpool can do it, what

:16:09. > :16:13.does your heads tell you? We have just got to do the business year. We

:16:14. > :16:19.have done that rode a fantastic season. In October we would have

:16:20. > :16:22.taken probably force lot but the boys have performed so excellently

:16:23. > :16:32.that we have gotten into this position. The Istanbul night is

:16:33. > :16:42.today. If they don't position. The Istanbul night is

:16:43. > :16:48.Chelsea defeat the crucial one? If we take it into next year, I know we

:16:49. > :16:53.have Champions League football next year and so does Brendan, he will

:16:54. > :16:59.probably need a bigger, wider squad with broad experience. The young

:17:00. > :17:05.kids have done as proud. Dealers a strong seam

:17:06. > :17:10.kids have done as proud. Dealers a have performed well entertaining

:17:11. > :17:18.kids have done as proud. Dealers a -- there is a strong seam. We

:17:19. > :17:23.kids have done as proud. Dealers a 85 goals and only conceded 16 goals

:17:24. > :17:25.in 42 league games. Maybe we want something like

:17:26. > :17:31.in 42 league games. Maybe we want year and then we will have

:17:32. > :17:34.in 42 league games. Maybe we want perfect thing. They do have to

:17:35. > :17:41.increase the squad with the extra games next season. What do you think

:17:42. > :17:43.of that talented young intelligent boy? Like anybody who comes and once

:17:44. > :17:45.to where the Liverpool shirt he boy? Like anybody who comes and once

:17:46. > :17:50.a very talented boy, if that was boy? Like anybody who comes and once

:17:51. > :17:55.Brendan's choice then so be it. We boy? Like anybody who comes and once

:17:56. > :18:04.need 20 of those type of players for next year. Can I throw you a

:18:05. > :18:12.statistic, 1966 Austria won the European Song contest, Real Madrid

:18:13. > :18:17.won the European cup and England won the World Cup. He says if Liverpool

:18:18. > :18:25.win this title he is putting everything on England in the summer.

:18:26. > :18:31.Everton won the FA Cup that year so they are very keen to get that other

:18:32. > :18:41.bit of the statistic in. Sam Wallace from the independent what do you

:18:42. > :18:45.understand on that debate? He could have gone to Manchester United but

:18:46. > :18:50.Brendan Rodgers has shown this year he is prepared to give young players

:18:51. > :18:56.the chance. It is interesting that Rogers said in the week he wants to

:18:57. > :19:02.buy a place. He does not want to buy squad players but when you look at

:19:03. > :19:08.the money he spent in relative terms to the modern market it is not much.

:19:09. > :19:15.In 2009 when they finished second last time it did not go well for

:19:16. > :19:22.Benitez. We have got to build on this Liverpool. It was said to me on

:19:23. > :19:28.Monday night that sometimes you need the pain of one season to get the

:19:29. > :19:35.success for the following season. If you look at Manchester United losing

:19:36. > :19:40.at Anfield before Leeds went on. Yes, if you think about the

:19:41. > :19:48.situation standing on the pitch at the millennium Stadium we lost to

:19:49. > :19:55.Liverpool. Out of adversity is where you show what you are really made

:19:56. > :20:02.of. Gerard really wanted to win. The result of Palace would have heart

:20:03. > :20:13.Brendan more than anybody else. His philosophy almost got in the way of

:20:14. > :20:23.winning that match. -- hurt. He has been fantastic the way he has played

:20:24. > :20:28.his part. He just needs to tweak it a little bit. If is one excellent

:20:29. > :20:35.player, the wiki can move the ball is like a European player. He is

:20:36. > :20:42.ready now and has developed later. We probably have not enough time to

:20:43. > :20:49.expand on that point. The season where they scored 85 and conceded

:20:50. > :20:53.just 16, is that possible in the modern-day game when balls seem to

:20:54. > :20:56.be slightly more easy to come by because regulations have been

:20:57. > :21:05.tightened up on how much defenders can kick people? Yes, rules have

:21:06. > :21:12.changed, it is the quicker game, more fast-paced. It is developing

:21:13. > :21:15.season upon season. You would think Liverpool have to sign a defender to

:21:16. > :21:22.get themselves a bit better defensively. Do they need to get

:21:23. > :21:30.better defensively by signing players or is it a coaching thing.

:21:31. > :21:34.It might be the philosophy. More managers now want to go and attack

:21:35. > :21:42.and win games and you have got to applaud that. -- applaud that. It is

:21:43. > :21:50.getting the balance between the two. The same with Martinez at times. We

:21:51. > :21:55.are not seeing less and less managers playing long ball and

:21:56. > :22:01.managers who want to park the bus. A little bit of both. It is an

:22:02. > :22:07.attacking philosophy now, they are going to win games rather than

:22:08. > :22:18.containment. We have seen it this season. The likes of Southampton.

:22:19. > :22:26.There are going to Old Trafford. It is not a containment job any more.

:22:27. > :22:34.You feel that Man City are strong in both areas. On arriving at city

:22:35. > :22:44.Pellegrino wanted it to be more like La Liga. Real Madrid and Barcelona

:22:45. > :22:52.would put six and seven goals past teams on a regular basis. There are

:22:53. > :22:56.lots of things wrong with that division. I actually think that is a

:22:57. > :23:09.bit of the weakness in the league. I like to see teams beat big teams

:23:10. > :23:12.with shock results. I think watching Liverpool, just how Gerard drops

:23:13. > :23:18.back between the two centre have is, at times, it is an innovative

:23:19. > :23:26.thing. You cannot do that against everyone. When Chelsea came Jose

:23:27. > :23:31.Mourinho exposed that type of play. The problem with facing managers

:23:32. > :23:40.like that is you have to have a plan B. There was one moment in the

:23:41. > :23:47.matchwinner he'd tripped up and slept. There was that mistake. Time

:23:48. > :23:52.wasting. Yes, but Chelsea did not concede. I Cannes they rode their

:23:53. > :24:04.luck and Liverpool were unlucky on the day. Your for word reviews of

:24:05. > :24:10.your season coming in. Michael says as far as Liverpool is concerned it

:24:11. > :24:17.is not over yet. Ollie Davies, Spurs, thank God it's over. That's

:24:18. > :24:21.not very positive, is it? Let's talk to Tim Sherwood know who has been

:24:22. > :24:28.speaking about the uncertainty he is basing going into the summer ahead

:24:29. > :24:33.of their game against Aston Villa. I gave a list of players to the

:24:34. > :24:39.chairman a few months ago and to Franco Albini, the players I would

:24:40. > :24:43.recommend we keep and the ones I recommend we leave and the ones I

:24:44. > :24:48.recommend we bring in. I am not sure how we are getting on with that

:24:49. > :24:53.list. How do you think they are getting on with that list? I do not

:24:54. > :25:01.know, they have given me no indication. It doesn't look like he

:25:02. > :25:06.will be there, will he go in the bin? It is incredible as talking

:25:07. > :25:11.like this, here's defiant, he wants to do his job, to continue to do the

:25:12. > :25:15.job he started to do but it is highly unlikely he will be there. I

:25:16. > :25:21.would say he will not be there next season. Players are coming to him

:25:22. > :25:29.telling him they know they will not be here next year. He seems to be in

:25:30. > :25:35.the dark about it all instead of the club just coming out and telling him

:25:36. > :25:40.to put him out of his misery. I think it might have been the stand

:25:41. > :25:45.he took at the start, he was quite bullish, he said he wanted the job

:25:46. > :25:52.on his terms or not at all. He wanted to be a manager, he was firm

:25:53. > :25:56.in that. He is clearly a manager and will do well in that job at some

:25:57. > :26:02.point but the results have gone against him, against the bigger

:26:03. > :26:06.teams. But actually know not inform him of what is happening and for him

:26:07. > :26:13.to have to face the world's media without knowing is quite ridiculous.

:26:14. > :26:29.Four from his point of view, if he has an 18 month corn that --

:26:30. > :26:33.contract. I think he would have accepted that but all along he was

:26:34. > :26:37.told we will give you the summer transfer window and next season.

:26:38. > :26:43.They have changed their minds about that. Since he took over Warmley

:26:44. > :26:52.city, Chelsea and Liverpool have taken more points than Spurs in that

:26:53. > :26:57.period. -- only City. He is open and says what is on his mind. We moan

:26:58. > :27:08.about managers who tiptoe around this year. What are the Spurs

:27:09. > :27:13.hierarchy looking for? They are looking for someone to try to take

:27:14. > :27:19.the club on from last season and it has not worked for them since Harry

:27:20. > :27:26.Redknapp. You could argue he has taken them on from where they were.

:27:27. > :27:32.In football people tell lies to each other. Just forefront. They will not

:27:33. > :27:38.be upfront with the media. They are hanging him out to dry by doing what

:27:39. > :27:45.they are doing. Managers want to get the best out of players. You did not

:27:46. > :27:50.move from football to media hoping people would be truthful in the

:27:51. > :28:00.media, did you? It is even worse! Nice suit, by the way! What do you

:28:01. > :28:05.think of the Spurs hierarchy? What he needs to do is just retain his

:28:06. > :28:10.dignity and manage this as best as he can and see it as a long-term

:28:11. > :28:17.position that he ultimately goes into management elsewhere. He was

:28:18. > :28:23.what, technical director? Technical coordinator. He will find it

:28:24. > :28:29.difficult to go back to that position and should ultimately go

:28:30. > :28:40.elsewhere. From a Southampton point of view, if their main players leave

:28:41. > :28:49.the club, all three rumoured to be happening, what does that say about

:28:50. > :28:53.Southampton? It is negative to start with. Rickie Lambert is another one

:28:54. > :28:59.the wrong rumours about. Overall they have put a belief in that the

:29:00. > :29:03.philosophy of the club is they will develop from within. How long they

:29:04. > :29:10.can continue that for I do not know but overall is the first man leaves

:29:11. > :29:18.the club where will they go? Will they have another manager who comes

:29:19. > :29:22.in? He is very much hit and miss. It has been proven time and again if

:29:23. > :29:29.you get the right man in it will work. At the day at other clubs it

:29:30. > :29:37.does not work so consequentially does it go? Everything is about

:29:38. > :29:42.going forward. If you look at how their fullbacks push on. It is very

:29:43. > :29:48.clear and obvious. A lot of teams could copy it. He has put that in

:29:49. > :29:55.place and has a clear vision of what he wants. I do not think he will be

:29:56. > :30:01.there forever. In the meantime, from a Southampton point of view, the

:30:02. > :30:04.need to rescue this. There are a lot of young players coming through that

:30:05. > :30:12.football club so they need the right man in the quickly. It's depressing

:30:13. > :30:17.for those who believe in developing talent and building a football club,

:30:18. > :30:23.doing things the right way. I know there will be people who say they

:30:24. > :30:27.have spent a lot of money, and done things the right way, but if they

:30:28. > :30:31.lose this talent they have developed, it does not send out a

:30:32. > :30:38.great message. Actually, people could talk about Chelsea and

:30:39. > :30:45.Manchester City. If Roman Abramowitz had not taken over, they would have

:30:46. > :30:53.lost Frank Lampard and John Terry. Look at Manchester City, they lost

:30:54. > :30:58.Shaun Wright Phillips. Overnight, he went to Chelsea as a squad player.

:30:59. > :31:01.When you talk about developing a great team of English players,

:31:02. > :31:06.unless you have that money at the top, you cannot protect these

:31:07. > :31:13.players. Look at Swansea. One good season and you will get all your

:31:14. > :31:16.best players taken away. It is a very difficult situation Southampton

:31:17. > :31:22.find themselves in. I have great sympathy for them. It is

:31:23. > :31:27.justification for why you need a rich owner, it is keeping the ones

:31:28. > :31:30.you develop. We are kind of looking back through the years to see

:31:31. > :31:37.whether it was always like this, when Paul Ince went from West Ham to

:31:38. > :31:43.Manchester United. I suppose the big clubs have always cherry picked the

:31:44. > :31:48.talent. One or two can be allowed to leave, it might be a case of one per

:31:49. > :31:54.season, because you cannot rip the heart out of that football club. You

:31:55. > :31:57.have to support the next bunch coming through, it needs to be a

:31:58. > :32:03.team that can compete or the rest of the team is affected. It is probably

:32:04. > :32:08.Adam Lallana at this stage. Luke Shaw can wait for the future. I

:32:09. > :32:16.think that is important. If they all do go it is a problem. Bryan Robson

:32:17. > :32:19.made his debut in 1975 and he left after six years. You got six years

:32:20. > :32:33.out of a great player before he moved on full getting quite a lot of

:32:34. > :32:39.tweets. -- before he moved on. Mark Mitchell says Stoke City, really,

:32:40. > :32:44.really, really good. David McDonald about Crystal Palace, Manager of the

:32:45. > :32:49.Year. West Ham, long ball to Andy Carroll. That leads us on to Andy

:32:50. > :32:55.Carroll and the England squad. Various newspapers starting to

:32:56. > :33:04.predict. You have done years. Did you have Andy Carroll in it? -- you

:33:05. > :33:07.have done one. Originally, I would have taken three strikers, but since

:33:08. > :33:17.the injury to Andros Townsend I would bring Rickie Lambert end. --

:33:18. > :33:23.in. I am always astonished, people always stick eight defenders in.

:33:24. > :33:26.Would you lose one and boost up the midfield, on the basis that you

:33:27. > :33:33.could have James Milner covering a full-back? It would be highly

:33:34. > :33:38.unlikely that you're going to get three injuries to the back four.

:33:39. > :33:47.Interesting talking about Jon Flanagan. I put him in mind. I put

:33:48. > :33:54.him ahead of Kyle Walker. He has had a better season. He is more of a

:33:55. > :33:58.natural defender. I would go with him. It is a difficult call and I

:33:59. > :34:03.totally get it but I think he has had a more consistent season. Are

:34:04. > :34:08.you judging your full-backs on how they defend rather than... He could

:34:09. > :34:17.be the false full-back. That is kind of like and also glue -- auxiliary

:34:18. > :34:21.winger. The reason I go with that is Glen Johnson is an attacking

:34:22. > :34:25.full-back. I would pick Ashely Cole, you would be in my squad. I think

:34:26. > :34:35.you're looking for something that is comparing ball with Ashely Cole and

:34:36. > :34:40.I think Jon Flanagan as that. -- comparable. He has played in a top

:34:41. > :34:45.side this season. Take nothing away from him, nobody even wanted him on

:34:46. > :34:49.loan this year. There is absolutely no way that you take a player with

:34:50. > :34:53.that sort of experience. If you are the England manager, looking across

:34:54. > :34:57.at that bench, Leighton Baines is injured, you want someone with real

:34:58. > :35:03.experience. This is a big competition and Roy Hodgson... I

:35:04. > :35:08.would take Ashley Cole. If you look across Europe, it would be

:35:09. > :35:11.unthinkable if a player in their prime did not go to a World Cup and

:35:12. > :35:16.that is what we have here, one of the world's best left-backs. Still

:35:17. > :35:21.showing that he is at that level, I would like to be able to turn to him

:35:22. > :35:26.and bring him on. Luke Shaw is for the future, no doubt about that, but

:35:27. > :35:32.it is a bit too soon. Certainly, Jon Flanagan, asking somebody to do

:35:33. > :35:36.something like that, he has done well but we are putting him under

:35:37. > :35:39.enormous pressure. The reason I included him is Kyle Walker has not

:35:40. > :35:46.played since March, and you should be ruthless about injuries. That is

:35:47. > :35:51.why Jack Wilshere is not there. I think Roy Hodgson will choose Jack

:35:52. > :35:55.Wilshere and Kyle Walker. He said he has the squad in his head and has

:35:56. > :36:03.had it in his head for a few months. He is going to games to have his

:36:04. > :36:06.view confirmed. We have been here before with injured players and I

:36:07. > :36:10.don't think there is the time. People talk about them being fresh.

:36:11. > :36:18.You see them stumbling into a World Cup, half fit. I don't think Ashely

:36:19. > :36:28.Cole will be the number one. I imagine Leighton Baines will play

:36:29. > :36:32.all three games, possibly more. He did not go to the last one. If you

:36:33. > :36:39.take him as first choice, why take Ashley Cole? He may have to play a

:36:40. > :36:47.major part in it and it might be too much for Luke Shaw. I take your

:36:48. > :36:52.point. I think he proved, defensively, he was outstanding over

:36:53. > :37:00.in Madrid. He needs to go. The squad, by the way, will be announced

:37:01. > :37:04.tomorrow from 2pm. You might already know it before then, the back page

:37:05. > :37:11.of the Sun this morning, their headline is that Roy Hodgson will

:37:12. > :37:18.fall the unlucky seven, the seven players on stand-by, tonight. --

:37:19. > :37:24.telephone. If he phoned them tonight, by 10pm most people will

:37:25. > :37:32.probably have guessed who the 23 R. It is a nightmare, we would much

:37:33. > :37:37.rather nobody knew. -- 23 are. The pieces of the jigsaw will start

:37:38. > :37:45.falling into place. If Luke Shaw is told he is on stand-by, that means

:37:46. > :37:57.Ashley Cole is in. The big and will be resolved. -- the big answers. If

:37:58. > :38:07.there is no easy way. Did you always get a phone call? Nothing, usually.

:38:08. > :38:10.I think, I remember certainly around 2002, Nick McCarthy kept in regular

:38:11. > :38:21.contact with the players to check up, -- Mick McCarthy. I think there

:38:22. > :38:29.was an idea, you knew, and then the squad was announced. Add a member

:38:30. > :38:38.the first one, it was painful, you were waiting with bated breath, and

:38:39. > :38:45.Graham called the players. They were so paperthin, when the phone went,

:38:46. > :38:51.you could hear the clatter of things, Ian Wright was in the room

:38:52. > :38:55.next to me and he was not going. You had 30 together and then he whittled

:38:56. > :39:03.it down, whereas Roy Hodgson is taking 23 plus the seven. We will

:39:04. > :39:08.keep this discussion going on BBC Two and the BBC website but the five

:39:09. > :39:13.live listeners are leaving. You will be able to watch the F1 on BBC One,

:39:14. > :39:20.coverage has begun. You can turn over once we are off. Just to let

:39:21. > :39:25.you know about a new feature on the BBC sport application,

:39:26. > :39:28.you know about a new feature on the select alerts for 156 teams in

:39:29. > :39:36.England and Scotland, in a billing you to receive alerts for your team

:39:37. > :39:42.line up, goals, and results. -- enabling. Just one more thing on the

:39:43. > :39:47.World Cup squad, when we are looking at the players that have been

:39:48. > :39:52.selected, it does feel like for virtually every tournament since I

:39:53. > :40:00.can remember, we selected on a view to the future, constantly. I go back

:40:01. > :40:04.to 1982, but every squad, we have got one eye on what will happen in

:40:05. > :40:12.the future. I have heard that school of thought, picking relative

:40:13. > :40:16.unknowns to go to the World Cup, but you have somebody like Ashley Cole,

:40:17. > :40:20.Steven Gerrard, these are experienced players that have been

:40:21. > :40:24.there, seen that and done it. They will be desperate to go. How can you

:40:25. > :40:31.turn around to them and say, not this time, we are going to move on

:40:32. > :40:35.and look ahead. It is a balancing act. We will be qualifying for the

:40:36. > :40:40.European Championships in August, and some of these players, Ashley

:40:41. > :40:43.Cole, Steven Gerrard, they are not retiring, so I would imagine they

:40:44. > :40:46.will carry on in the early stages but it will be difficult for them to

:40:47. > :40:51.play in the next European Championships. Of course we know

:40:52. > :40:55.about Michael Owen, went to the World Cup in linking 98, Rio

:40:56. > :41:07.Ferdinand came because they could not name another. -- 1998. What we

:41:08. > :41:11.should be looking at is what formation he will play, what style,

:41:12. > :41:21.is he going to copy what Liverpool do? He could play them, even Adam

:41:22. > :41:24.Lallana before he gets to Liverpool. That is exciting. This time last

:41:25. > :41:31.year, we were very worried for England, now that Ross Barkley has

:41:32. > :41:40.been added to that group... Do not start the hype yet. Mark Dawson says

:41:41. > :41:47.Roberto Martinez adapted, adopted, improved. Liverpool fan says they

:41:48. > :41:53.are proud. A Sunderland fan says miracles do happen. Because of that

:41:54. > :41:56.miracle, some of the excitement about the relegation battle has

:41:57. > :42:06.gone. Not that Sunderland fans will care. It has gone. It was so tight

:42:07. > :42:10.for so long, but yes, Sunderland would probably have been amazed that

:42:11. > :42:14.Norwich did not lose to Chelsea and expected it a bit sooner but their

:42:15. > :42:19.results have been incredible and it will be interesting to see what

:42:20. > :42:23.happens. They have treated their games like a cup competition, and

:42:24. > :42:27.they have done brilliantly. They got out of the bottom three, so all

:42:28. > :42:32.credit to them to do what they have done and some of the results have

:42:33. > :42:39.been... The Chelsea won was the standout. Very quickly, we only have

:42:40. > :42:46.one minute left, the title... Manchester City. Manchester City.

:42:47. > :42:50.Manchester City. I did go for Chelsea and I think this will hurt

:42:51. > :42:55.Jose Mourinho. He is no longer the special one. Interesting to see how

:42:56. > :43:05.they recover, he is second best. I'm keen to see next year... Third-best.

:43:06. > :43:12.Manager of the Season? Tony Pulis. What he has done has been a miracle.

:43:13. > :43:23.I think Manuel Pellegrini. I would go with Tony Pulis. Would you?

:43:24. > :43:33.Probably. I know that he took them to the cup final, Gus Poyet, William

:43:34. > :43:36.achievement, and I am. Admiration. -- brilliant achievement that I

:43:37. > :43:44.admire, but Tony Pumas has done brilliantly. Stephen London, he says

:43:45. > :43:49.doom, gloom, hope and elation. -- Tony Pulis has done brilliantly.

:43:50. > :43:54.That sums up the mood of most football fans. That is it for us.

:43:55. > :44:10.Match Of The Day will be tonight on BBC One. See you next season.

:44:11. > :44:12.Sorry, what? I got to get off the show.

:44:13. > :44:15.You have a contract. So I'll give 'em back the money.