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:00:31. > :00:35.Good afternoon. Welcome to Match of the Day two Extra. We'll look back

:00:36. > :00:38.at another dramatic afternoon in the Premier League and look ahead to

:00:39. > :00:42.today's games in the title race. It's set to be an epic atmosphere at

:00:43. > :00:47.Anfield as Manchester City travel to Liverpool. Jose Mourinho's Chelsea

:00:48. > :00:51.travel to Swansea City. Arsenal are through to the FA Cup final, but

:00:52. > :00:56.were pushed all the way by Wigan Athletic. And the fight to stay up

:00:57. > :01:02.takes another incredible twist. We'll reflect on another crazy day

:01:03. > :01:06.at the Hawthorns. And with me this afternoon is Kevin Kilbane, Match of

:01:07. > :01:16.the Day's Steve Bower and Andy Dunn from the Sunday Mirror. Good

:01:17. > :01:24.afternoon. You can contact us via the website or twitter. A warm

:01:25. > :01:28.welcome to you all. Kevin, you were at Wembley yesterday, but not

:01:29. > :01:37.necessarily the biggest story for you? No, the Norwich and full game

:01:38. > :01:42.yesterday. A huge win for full. For Neal Adams, where does he go to in

:01:43. > :01:47.these last four games? The momentum is with Fulham. They proved they can

:01:48. > :01:53.grind out a result because it was a nervy day and they prevailed. Andy,

:01:54. > :02:00.plenty of nerves and tension on display yesterday? Yes, a win for

:02:01. > :02:06.Arsenal raises as many questions as answers as most of their

:02:07. > :02:12.performances do nowadays. For a long time we were writing how much more

:02:13. > :02:18.can Arsenal Wenger take? Then up pops Mertesacker with an equaliser.

:02:19. > :02:24.The victory takes them to the first FA Cup final in a long while, but it

:02:25. > :02:29.can't mask the problem is Arsenal Wenger has got. Essentially, it was

:02:30. > :02:38.doubly significant on the day. Nothing that Arsenal shown suggests

:02:39. > :02:42.they will overhaul Everton. If they don't get that spot and qualify for

:02:43. > :02:48.the Champions League, I am not an FA Cup wind will convince Arsene Wenger

:02:49. > :02:52.to stay. In the press box, there's a feeling that even if Arsenal win the

:02:53. > :02:59.FA Cup and perhaps don't make Champions League, maybe it will be

:03:00. > :03:04.time for him to depart? Yes, I don't think it changed the fact... They

:03:05. > :03:10.somehow found a way to get to the final. They could end those seasons

:03:11. > :03:15.without a trophy but I don't think it will be enough. Most of the

:03:16. > :03:19.writing this morning reflects that if he decides to stay, and he

:03:20. > :03:25.decides whether to stay or not dash and that is the one quirk of the way

:03:26. > :03:31.Arsenal is run at the moment - he is nowhere near good enough to compete

:03:32. > :03:35.with the likes of man city and Liverpool and maybe Man United next

:03:36. > :03:44.season. At the moment, I am not sure he believes that is true. Good

:03:45. > :03:49.afternoon. These six score thrillers follow you around! Yes, incredibly

:03:50. > :03:57.to do stoppage time equaliser is. Yesterday it encapsulates the

:03:58. > :04:06.season. 3-0 up against a Spurs side. In the second half, mentally, West

:04:07. > :04:09.Bronx sunk deeper. At 3-2 we thought they might go again. West Brom

:04:10. > :04:14.should be OK but if they are not they will look back on those two

:04:15. > :04:18.home games when they were up and they should have seen it out. They

:04:19. > :04:22.have conceded again and dropped points in home games. Although Spurs

:04:23. > :04:31.had all the ball yesterday, they should have had enough... What does

:04:32. > :04:36.that do to Pepe Mel? They should be taking the positives out of that. He

:04:37. > :04:40.was 3-0 up at home against Tottenham. Not long ago, they would

:04:41. > :04:45.have considered themselves a contender for the fourth place. You

:04:46. > :04:52.take the positives. A bouncing atmosphere, I can imagine. It was

:04:53. > :05:06.until the second goal. I would rather have that then get beaten

:05:07. > :05:12.badly. He said the defending was horrendous. I am sure he said more

:05:13. > :05:22.than that! The fourth time West Brom lead 2-0 up. Pepe Mel said they were

:05:23. > :05:28.worried about that side of it mentally. You go in front in a big

:05:29. > :05:32.game like that and then you drop off, you can see grounding behind

:05:33. > :05:41.and you don't want to concede yourselves. You can't... You've got

:05:42. > :05:43.no real outlet and you can't get the support of your striker.

:05:44. > :05:47.We'll talk about the relegation battle shortly, but first to Anfield

:05:48. > :05:51.ahead of what's a huge match in the title race. Let's talk to Guy

:05:52. > :05:59.Mowbray who's there for Match of the Day two.

:06:00. > :06:05.An emotional day? We will have the poignant, the still and silent and

:06:06. > :06:11.remembering the 96 of 25 years ago. That will give way to Anfield in

:06:12. > :06:16.full cry. I can tell you the atmosphere already well over an hour

:06:17. > :06:19.before kick-off has been building up. The crowd outside from half past

:06:20. > :06:25.nine this morning were just incredible. It was something to see.

:06:26. > :06:30.They are about six deep now either side of the road waiting for the

:06:31. > :06:40.Liverpool team bus to arrive. Most of the players were stonefaced. They

:06:41. > :06:45.were welcomed in the tunnel to see them all in. There was a steely

:06:46. > :06:48.determination about Liverpool. It is building and building and building

:06:49. > :06:56.with every game they play at Anfield. It has the feel of a

:06:57. > :07:03.decider. It's not as though. In the dependent on Sunday --

:07:04. > :07:08.Independent on Sunday he was asked if he can go on and win the title.

:07:09. > :07:13.Do you agree? They can. If they carry on with this winning run they

:07:14. > :07:20.fully deserved to win the Barclays Premier League this season. City

:07:21. > :07:25.will undoubtedly take a point. Much rests on whether Kompany will be

:07:26. > :07:30.fit. All we get from man city is that he is travelling and he will be

:07:31. > :07:34.here. -- Manchester city. I have heard that he will be OK and he

:07:35. > :07:40.would eat them out this afternoon. When the whistle goes, there will be

:07:41. > :07:46.an almighty cavalry charge. Liverpool have been blitzing teams

:07:47. > :07:50.early at Anfield in recent weeks. Against Arsenal, it was like that

:07:51. > :07:57.and we expect a similar approach today. What a test that is about to

:07:58. > :08:02.be! I am gabbling because I am that excited. It is the game of the

:08:03. > :08:05.season. You are gabbling so we will say

:08:06. > :08:11.goodbye! Let us pick up on an article in your

:08:12. > :08:17.paper today. Then Andy Noel has played in some big matches. One

:08:18. > :08:26.headline says" mad fans stormed bus". He won't experience anything

:08:27. > :08:31.like the sort of mixture of hostility, in a way, not in an

:08:32. > :08:37.unpleasant way but also some emotion that will be there before the game.

:08:38. > :08:41.Anfield can be like that. Today is a very special and emotional day for

:08:42. > :08:44.the whole of football and particularly for that football

:08:45. > :08:48.club. He won't have experienced that. There will be that element to

:08:49. > :08:53.deal with, but a bit of it is that a bit too much is made of it. These

:08:54. > :08:56.are experienced players for Manchester city and I don't think a

:08:57. > :09:12.hostile atmosphere will affect them too much. A couple of weeks ago, one

:09:13. > :09:15.onlooker was saying that he can remember under Rafael Benitez when

:09:16. > :09:20.they were going for the league, if you stepped off the bus you felt two

:09:21. > :09:24.or three inches taller and that gave Liverpool players the extra

:09:25. > :09:30.impetus. It was quite an interesting insight because they are there again

:09:31. > :09:34.today and there is no bigger game. Rogers has made the public plea to

:09:35. > :09:40.the supporters how big a change they can make. The atmosphere will be

:09:41. > :09:46.cracking. It is incredible. I was at the Tottenham game when they blew

:09:47. > :09:52.Tottenham away early on. Turton couldn't get out of their own half

:09:53. > :09:56.-- Tottenham. They grew in stature, Liverpool, and started at such a

:09:57. > :10:00.pace. If the city start the game the way they did against Southampton

:10:01. > :10:06.last week, Liverpool can blow them away in a similar fashion. We can

:10:07. > :10:12.probably names several instances where they have blown teams away

:10:13. > :10:20.early on. I saw them when they blew Arsenal away in the first half-hour

:10:21. > :10:24.when they were 4-0 up. That was down to the naivete of Arsenal in the way

:10:25. > :10:29.they were set up. This should give them a lift. I also think they are

:10:30. > :10:36.experienced enough to deal with that. How about you? I was at the

:10:37. > :10:40.corresponding fixture on Boxing Day. Liverpool were very unlucky not to

:10:41. > :10:44.get anything out of that. I think Brendan Rodgers will remind them of

:10:45. > :10:50.that because they went toe to toe with Manchester city that day.

:10:51. > :10:57.Nobody expected the form of Liverpool since. Psychologically,

:10:58. > :11:01.they will believe. With Liverpool 's attacking threat, they have a great

:11:02. > :11:07.chance of winning the game. Do you think it is a gamble with Sergio

:11:08. > :11:11.Aguero? It will be fascinating on the team news which we will get

:11:12. > :11:19.through shortly. My hunch is he won't start. They will maybe bring

:11:20. > :11:25.him on. And whether Kompany is indeed fit. There was a big story

:11:26. > :11:30.yesterday amongst the press love that Wembley that he had pulled up

:11:31. > :11:34.in training and he was in a bit of pain which was later denied. That

:11:35. > :11:44.will leave them pretty weak at the back. The tactics will be

:11:45. > :11:50.fascinating. Can Gerard be stopped from orchestrating the moves. On the

:11:51. > :11:54.flanks, Suarez tends to target the weakest Link, like great players

:11:55. > :12:03.do. You won't find him on Kompany's shoulders. I think for all the hype

:12:04. > :12:06.and emotion and the atmosphere surrounding it, it will also be a

:12:07. > :12:13.fascinating tactical battle between the mansion -- managers. Suarez is

:12:14. > :12:19.convinced in the papers today that he will take the title. -- that

:12:20. > :12:28.Liverpool will take the title. They have got to prove that... The

:12:29. > :12:30.pressure probably will be on Liverpool considering everyone is

:12:31. > :12:35.expecting them to start the way they have been starting home games. So

:12:36. > :12:40.there is pressure on that. There are so many intriguing battles within

:12:41. > :12:44.it. The way Manchester city started against Southampton, moving the ball

:12:45. > :12:49.slowly around the pitch, Southampton got in their faces. It is important

:12:50. > :13:00.Manchester city do not start like that. The Sunday Telegraph has a

:13:01. > :13:05.lead story with Arthur and bingo's saviour. This is Pellegrini 's

:13:06. > :13:09.attacking Jose Mourinho's style. You would have thought Pellegrini would

:13:10. > :13:14.have enough on his plate as opposed to having another spat with Jose

:13:15. > :13:17.Mourinho! Andy suggested earlier in the office that some of his

:13:18. > :13:26.colleagues might have put some spin on this. I could not get my head

:13:27. > :13:30.around that! What I merely said was that what Pellegrini is trying to

:13:31. > :13:36.get across is that he believes it would be fitting for an attacking

:13:37. > :13:40.team like Liverpool Manchester city, teams who scored 174 goals between

:13:41. > :13:43.them or something like that, it would be more fitting for them to

:13:44. > :13:51.win the league or whatever. I would say that there is no loss -- love

:13:52. > :14:02.lost between the two. If Pellegrini could, I suspect he would have a

:14:03. > :14:09.Kevin Keegan! In defence of Jose Mourinho, it is the way he sets the

:14:10. > :14:16.defence up to win. At long -- times it is long ball tactics. If we had a

:14:17. > :14:22.quality striker he would play differently. Picking up on Chelsea

:14:23. > :14:30.because they go to Swansea city today. Three defeats on the road. --

:14:31. > :14:34.on the road. An interesting one this afternoon. The Champions League and

:14:35. > :14:38.Chelsea is interesting. Will it spurred them on in the league or

:14:39. > :14:45.will it take their eye off the league. Swansea away, that could be

:14:46. > :14:51.interesting on a Sunday afternoon. So, this one throws up more

:14:52. > :14:55.questions. If Swansea were to lose they are right in the relegation mix

:14:56. > :15:04.as well. I think it will lift Chelsea. They have key Premier

:15:05. > :15:10.League games amidst the two Champions League semifinal legs but

:15:11. > :15:19.it will lift them. It will be -- he will be delighted. There has been so

:15:20. > :15:23.much criticism from Jose Mourinho himself, he will want a good end to

:15:24. > :15:29.the season. No matter what the result, he will say we still have a

:15:30. > :15:38.great chance of winning the title. And the timing as well?

:15:39. > :15:48.It gives them fresh impetus in May know what they have today. They will

:15:49. > :15:53.be looking at this game today and saying, if Liverpool win that game

:15:54. > :16:01.and Chelsea won every game, they will win the league. It is a huge

:16:02. > :16:06.chance for Chelsea. People forget that if Chelsea win every game they

:16:07. > :16:13.will come above Liverpool. But one of those games is that Liverpool.

:16:14. > :16:20.But how much will Jose Mourinho relish going to Anfield and getting

:16:21. > :16:27.a result? You don't think the game against Atletico Madrid will hamper

:16:28. > :16:36.them? It might do. Jose Mourinho is probably thinking, go back to

:16:37. > :16:40.Portugal, possibly win. I just think when it comes to pick his teens it

:16:41. > :16:52.will be interesting to see what team plays at Swansea today. -- pick his

:16:53. > :17:00.teams. If that team good enough to win the Champions League? I think

:17:01. > :17:09.this squad has been underestimated, mainly by Jose Mourinho himself.

:17:10. > :17:16.They've got world-class players pretty much all over. They might not

:17:17. > :17:20.be to everyone's taste. I think today and maybe next weekend's

:17:21. > :17:29.game, I do think he might not take any risk with the likes of John

:17:30. > :17:41.Terry. I think he will bring Mohamad Salah on. He will relish this

:17:42. > :17:45.situation. Dream final? I think there is a dream semifinal as well.

:17:46. > :17:53.I think Chelsea will beat Atletico Madrid. A quick word on what this

:17:54. > :18:02.means at the bottom. Yesterday's results have set this up in an

:18:03. > :18:06.interesting way to Swansea. They probably only need to get one more

:18:07. > :18:17.win. It probably won't come today but I think it will come. They do

:18:18. > :18:24.have a goal threat. Thank you. Let's hear from Roberto Martinez now.

:18:25. > :18:28.I think it's important we got the amount of points that we got. That

:18:29. > :18:35.is pleasing and now we go into the next group of games with a real

:18:36. > :18:38.desire and excitement. It's the highest points tally ever in the

:18:39. > :18:44.Premier League and that for a football club like ours with our

:18:45. > :18:49.history feels really exciting. That is what we are doing from game to

:18:50. > :18:52.game, preparing as well as we can. We've got real competition for

:18:53. > :19:01.places which always helps to focus the performances. Steve, what a job

:19:02. > :19:05.that man is done. Incredible. The players will run through a brick

:19:06. > :19:08.wall for him. Yes, there was a bit of fortune yesterday but seven wins

:19:09. > :19:16.on the run is incredible for Everton. Crystal Palace at home is

:19:17. > :19:20.probably a different sort of challenge. Arsenal will have played

:19:21. > :19:26.on the Tuesday night against West Ham. Crystal Palace presents a

:19:27. > :19:31.different type of challenge. Almost more challenging than playing

:19:32. > :19:41.Arsenal. They will say, come and break is down. -- us down. But the

:19:42. > :19:44.way that Martinez has set up his side, he's found a bit of a tactic

:19:45. > :19:59.that he's put out and he's found ways to win those tight games. Andy,

:20:00. > :20:02.what has impressed you most? Roberto Martinez was held up as an example

:20:03. > :20:10.of how to work the transfer market in the papers yesterday. There was

:20:11. > :20:14.an unbelievable transfer window. He lost a player who was important but

:20:15. > :20:32.probably would not have been important to Roberto Martinez.

:20:33. > :20:42.McCartney came in. He got four players in and one player out. A

:20:43. > :20:46.fantastic transfer window. The positivity is incredible. He

:20:47. > :20:54.inspired the other players. I think Manchester United is next Saturday.

:20:55. > :21:00.Nobody would doubt what David Moyes did but the contrast between David

:21:01. > :21:07.who would ten to play down expectations, Martinez does the

:21:08. > :21:12.complete opposite. He aims for the top. That is why Wednesday is so

:21:13. > :21:24.important for them. But another had problems with the big matches. --

:21:25. > :21:30.Everton never had problems. Do we think Everton will hold on? The

:21:31. > :21:33.momentum is with them. Probably slightly against Arsenal with the

:21:34. > :21:41.way they played yesterday and last week. I'm looking forward next week

:21:42. > :21:48.to Sunday's game, I will be there. It is a big test for them. I looked

:21:49. > :21:59.through Manchester United's side and I think Everton man for man have a

:22:00. > :22:06.better side. It is already a record number of points for Everton.

:22:07. > :22:09.Someone is taxed to ask whether you believe Manchester United can get

:22:10. > :22:23.into the top four this season. This season? Nope. I knew there would be

:22:24. > :22:35.a short ! -- short answer. Let's just take a look at the front page

:22:36. > :22:41.of the Observer. You were there yesterday, so what happened? Did

:22:42. > :22:52.Wigan played very well ordered Arsenal just not get going? -- or

:22:53. > :23:00.did Arsenal. If you are on the outside looking in, you'd think it

:23:01. > :23:05.is a Championship team who upheld Arsenal to a draw. I think Wigan

:23:06. > :23:12.will look back and think, that is a chance missed. Arsenal have become a

:23:13. > :23:21.bit mundane. They were there for the taking yesterday. When Callum

:23:22. > :23:25.McManaman went off, I found it bizarre because he was causing

:23:26. > :23:29.Arsenal all sorts of problems. I think they will look back and think,

:23:30. > :23:40.we missed a chance to get to our second FA Cup final in succession. I

:23:41. > :23:48.thought Arsenal were laboured. They had little down the left side. Lukas

:23:49. > :23:56.Podolski was terrible. Arsenal have key injuries, they always seem to

:23:57. > :24:01.have key injuries. But if you are going to be the best, that squad has

:24:02. > :24:11.two be able to compensate. Yesterday, they were average. Last

:24:12. > :24:15.season we were in the studio talking about them scoring goals every week

:24:16. > :24:21.and I remember you saying they were title contenders at one stage. They

:24:22. > :24:31.work, but they've never been able to maintain it. They've had criticism

:24:32. > :24:35.from Arsenal band as a result. I don't feel that some of the players

:24:36. > :24:39.are good enough to play at the top end and they were exposed. Callum

:24:40. > :24:43.McManaman was the key incident yesterday. If he had not gone off I

:24:44. > :24:49.really do believe Wigan would have won that game. When Kieran Gibbs

:24:50. > :24:58.came on he changed the game a bit. He started on the bench and we

:24:59. > :25:07.couldn't understand that one. Arsenal's best player was oxalate

:25:08. > :25:20.chamberlain. He was the best player for a mile. They brew the sixth is

:25:21. > :25:32.not that long ago. It's been an almighty slide. -- February sixth.

:25:33. > :25:39.They've gone out of the Champions League and they just scraped through

:25:40. > :25:44.yesterday. The general consensus is Wigan missed an opportunity. Whoever

:25:45. > :25:56.Arsenal play in the final will have all that expensive and is the -- all

:25:57. > :25:59.that expectancy again. He's had 1000 matches in charge. If he gets picked

:26:00. > :26:06.to fourth place, do you think it is over? I spoke to Arsene Wenger after

:26:07. > :26:10.the match against Everton. He was as down as I've seen him in a long time

:26:11. > :26:15.because he knew that was a big setback in their race for poor. You

:26:16. > :26:24.do get the impression that that is what he needs. -- their race for

:26:25. > :26:28.fourth. And I think after their game against Everton there was some

:26:29. > :26:38.doubt, as though for the first time that might not happen. Whoever goes

:26:39. > :26:45.out in a game of Sheffield against Hull United, that is important. I

:26:46. > :26:53.think whoever gets to that final will make it difficult for Arsenal.

:26:54. > :26:56.Our thoughts are with the former Arsenal goalkeeper Bob Wilson who

:26:57. > :27:03.has been diagnosed with cancer today. We wish him a speedy

:27:04. > :27:09.recovery. It is a wonderful achievement getting to an FA Cup

:27:10. > :27:18.semifinal. They had a big setback against Millwall. They are in great

:27:19. > :27:23.form at this stage. They've still got Redding and Burley to play, two

:27:24. > :27:28.teams at the top. The second semifinal is at Wembley today led by

:27:29. > :27:36.two managers who know what Wembley is all about. We've been once in the

:27:37. > :27:40.semifinal in 1930. I don't think we will have many supporters at this

:27:41. > :27:45.one who were there at the last one. So we should enjoy it. In my

:27:46. > :27:52.experience, it is a point drastic occasion only if you win. It will be

:27:53. > :27:58.a normal way trip for us. Just try and relax and enjoy it as best we

:27:59. > :28:07.can. Don't let the day pass you by. Also, make sure there is pressure

:28:08. > :28:13.there. What a great job Nigel Clough has done at Sheffield United. Well,

:28:14. > :28:22.if either whole or Sheffield United win, I think one of football's to

:28:23. > :28:26.good guys will be around. Steve Bruce, when he was sacked from

:28:27. > :28:32.Sunderland nobody wanted to touch him. What a job he has done. And

:28:33. > :28:42.Nigel Clough, another real top man in football. Sheffield United were

:28:43. > :28:48.third bottom in League One. They are well safe in the top table now.

:28:49. > :28:55.After all he's been through, if he was to lead a team out to Wembley,

:28:56. > :28:58.that would be magnificent. An incredible story for Hull City with

:28:59. > :29:06.the boss will change of name and everything crazy that has gone on

:29:07. > :29:14.off the pitch. -- the possible change of name. He's done a great

:29:15. > :29:18.job in press conferences being asked about it. In the end, he just says,

:29:19. > :29:24.I don't want to hear any more about it! To do everything he's done with

:29:25. > :29:27.that backdrop is superb. He has had support from the owner, whatever you

:29:28. > :29:34.think about his plans to change the name. He has backed him and Steve

:29:35. > :29:41.has spent well and made a big difference. I think it is a lovely

:29:42. > :29:47.semifinal and it will be great whichever one of those faces

:29:48. > :29:55.Arsenal. I've played under both managers, it is difficult! Having

:29:56. > :30:01.you played under every club? ! I've played for a couple of years with

:30:02. > :30:05.Hull and I think they should win, let's be honest. Playing against a

:30:06. > :30:10.third tier team. I think whole will win the game. But the way Sheffield

:30:11. > :30:21.United have produced results, you cannot rule them out. Saint

:30:22. > :30:23.Johnstone are playing and also Dundee United had victory. Back to

:30:24. > :30:34.Anfield now with some team news. Daniel Agutter is fit again after

:30:35. > :31:06.his knee trouble. Daniel Acker. As for Manchester city, Kompany is

:31:07. > :31:14.fit. A little piece of extra information. Of course, the whole

:31:15. > :31:18.occasion is touched with poignancy two days ahead of the 25th

:31:19. > :31:23.anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster. There will be a minutes

:31:24. > :31:31.silence and a giant patch has been laid in the centre circle.

:31:32. > :31:35.Never forgotten. Thank you. So Liverpool are unchanged and no

:31:36. > :31:45.Sergio Aguero. No, I thought he wouldn't start with him. The lasts

:31:46. > :31:51.-- Manchester city side I saw... I think he is bringing the best out of

:31:52. > :32:03.one of the players. We were just talking about Mamadou Sakho being

:32:04. > :32:16.retained at centre-half. Interesting. Experience wised, they

:32:17. > :32:19.have potentially best defensive partnership. Is Brendan Rodgers

:32:20. > :32:25.candidate for best Manager of the Season? Considering the turnaround

:32:26. > :32:30.at the club, you've got to give him full credit for what he's achieved

:32:31. > :32:35.this season. He's not spent masses amount of money. Full credit to him

:32:36. > :32:39.with the turnaround. Let us turn our attention to the

:32:40. > :32:48.fight to stay up and defeat for Norwich city.

:32:49. > :32:55.We have to respect that Norwich was a better team. We were very lucky

:32:56. > :33:01.that we had a good goalkeeper who saved us from defeat. At this stage

:33:02. > :33:06.of the season, I suppose the result is so much more important than the

:33:07. > :33:14.performance? Yes, the result is all. We are very happy about the result.

:33:15. > :33:20.We go on. Three points was the most important thing.

:33:21. > :33:26.We take the situation we are in and hopefully we can add more points. We

:33:27. > :33:32.know how close we are, perilously close. We've got to get ourselves

:33:33. > :33:38.further up the table and open up a bigger gap. That is what we will

:33:39. > :33:43.strive to do. A huge result for Fulham and I am

:33:44. > :33:48.sure Norwich city fans are sick to death of people like me reminding

:33:49. > :33:56.them they've got to play Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea and

:33:57. > :34:03.Arsenal. You almost felt yesterday it was the last chance. They hit the

:34:04. > :34:12.bar and you almost felt that was it. For some reason, everything seemed

:34:13. > :34:20.to depend on going into those last four games and needing the points on

:34:21. > :34:23.the board. Fulham had a huge wind. I think they will find it difficult to

:34:24. > :34:37.pick up points but that's where they are, Norwich. Again, by virtue of

:34:38. > :34:42.the fact that... That it is difficult on paper. It is more

:34:43. > :34:49.difficult for them in that you might have hoped that Arsenal would have

:34:50. > :34:55.nothing to play for. With Everton 's form they will have something to

:34:56. > :35:00.play for. All these are imponderables. You can't any more

:35:01. > :35:07.just look at black-and-white fixtures and say categorically.

:35:08. > :35:17.Norwich have had good games at home this season. Not even when you look

:35:18. > :35:23.at the top teams? Manchester United away is in the fixture it was last

:35:24. > :35:33.season. Exactly. If you were missed -- West Brom, for instance, you

:35:34. > :35:37.would think that. Fulham and by all accounts Norwich played quite well

:35:38. > :35:47.yesterday. Fulham still have to win their games. No guarantee. Just on

:35:48. > :35:54.full, I covered the first game and Felix Magath was so positive. I did

:35:55. > :36:01.their defeat at Cardiff which everyone thought was the pivotal

:36:02. > :36:04.game. After, he said that full would stay in the Premier League and

:36:05. > :36:08.people sniggered behind his back. You now look at back-to-back wins in

:36:09. > :36:14.the Premier League -- Premier League which are massive. They have Hull

:36:15. > :36:21.and Palace at home. They might not be life -- laughing quite as loudly

:36:22. > :36:30.now. All week he was saying he was confident he would stay up. His

:36:31. > :36:37.reputation will not be damaged. He's never been relegated his -- in his

:36:38. > :36:43.career as a manager. People will look back and say it was the fault

:36:44. > :36:47.of previous regimes. I think he's got a little bit of a carefree

:36:48. > :36:57.attitude that might reflect well on his players. If he brings one of his

:36:58. > :37:03.players back, he is a confident player and can score four or five

:37:04. > :37:12.goals. Let us turn our attention to Cardiff City. Let us hear from

:37:13. > :37:18.Ledburn assault trial. -- Arleigh Gunner Solskjaer.

:37:19. > :37:25.What is your reading of the situation? We are one point behind

:37:26. > :37:30.Fulham and three behind Norwich and four behind West Brom and Swansea.

:37:31. > :37:36.Four games to go so that is 12 points. We don't expect to win all

:37:37. > :37:39.of them but we can win a few of them.

:37:40. > :37:46.Stuck at home, Chelsea at home and the last day of the season. I'd

:37:47. > :37:52.written them off, to be honest. But he has been in that school of best

:37:53. > :37:57.manager and just when you think they are out of it they win at Saint Mary

:37:58. > :38:00.'s. The remaining fixtures are interesting because Sunderland and

:38:01. > :38:05.Newcastle away are not the faithful fixtures they might have been

:38:06. > :38:10.earlier in the season. Stuck at home is winnable for Cardiff. Chelsea at

:38:11. > :38:14.home on the final day looked weeks ago like the dreaded strap but who

:38:15. > :38:19.knows where they will be in the title race. They might be in Lisbon

:38:20. > :38:23.at that stage looking forward to the Champions League. So you wouldn't

:38:24. > :38:35.rule out Cardiff staying up. It has been an awful season for

:38:36. > :38:42.them. Unbelievable competition. The standard this year has been

:38:43. > :38:48.unusually high. Stockdale has had a good season two but the manager at

:38:49. > :38:56.Cardiff has been sensational. Over the last 16 is, they have conceded

:38:57. > :38:59.about 20 goals in their last ten games but they would have conceded

:39:00. > :39:07.more if it wasn't for him. I think they've got goals in them. I think

:39:08. > :39:11.it will give them a massive lift. Sometimes at this stage, teams are

:39:12. > :39:22.almost accepting their fate and Sunderland are close to that. They

:39:23. > :39:26.have to build on it. They beat Fulham and that was a big lift but

:39:27. > :39:31.then they go and lose. They had a clean sheet at Southampton but there

:39:32. > :39:35.is no margin for error. I remember talking to you when you did the

:39:36. > :39:42.Cardiff and Liverpool game and you said for the first 40 minutes...

:39:43. > :39:47.They were rocking, Liverpool. But they were 2-0 up and four minutes

:39:48. > :39:51.from half-time, you thought if they can just get to half-time with a

:39:52. > :39:59.2-goal cushion because Liverpool were rocking. Those periods of games

:40:00. > :40:07.will give them hope in these remaining games. Weeks ago, you

:40:08. > :40:11.couldn't predict. One result changes everything and Cardiff have done

:40:12. > :40:15.that now and given themselves hope. You really can't predict. You think

:40:16. > :40:18.Sunderland because of the way they have been playing and you thought

:40:19. > :40:28.last week Cardiff were doomed but now everything is to play for. It is

:40:29. > :40:31.a thrilling end. Felix Magath, I think Ollie Gunner Solskjaer is in

:40:32. > :40:40.the same boat. It is fortunate in a way that he won't get the flat if

:40:41. > :40:46.they don't down. He can approach the last few games with a sense of

:40:47. > :40:51.adventure and he can look forward to it. It is a big challenge. He said

:40:52. > :40:58.it would be the biggest thing in his career if he keeps Cardiff City up.

:40:59. > :41:01.Sunderland doomed? It looks that way. To concede an own goal like

:41:02. > :41:09.they did yesterday puts them on the back foot. From Sunderland 's point

:41:10. > :41:17.of view, you can't rule out Cardiff... Looking at the fixtures

:41:18. > :41:24.there... You're not shaking -- you're shaking your head. I can't

:41:25. > :41:33.see is Sunderland... It doesn't give a great message. No, when Gus Poyet

:41:34. > :41:39.keeps saying we need a miracle. What about West Bromwich Albion, Steve?

:41:40. > :41:45.What sort of atmosphere was there at the Hawthorns? The supporters are

:41:46. > :41:51.worried because the last few home games they have been up. Yesterday

:41:52. > :41:59.'s hurt them. They would have moved on 35 points. You think that is a

:42:00. > :42:03.giant leaf -- leap to safety and the nap man scores. That gave them an

:42:04. > :42:07.idea of how they were feeling. They knew it was a blow. Pepe Mel was

:42:08. > :42:11.very down when I spoke to him. Looking at the fixtures and the home

:42:12. > :42:17.games they've got, they should be OK as they can score goals. Interesting

:42:18. > :42:27.back page lead on the back of the Sunday Mirror. You've decided to go

:42:28. > :42:34.with the back paid -- back page lead of Alan Pardew, get out! There is

:42:35. > :42:42.serious unrest. You have to say in terms of form... They are

:42:43. > :42:47.essentially not scoring goals and concede a lot. The figures are

:42:48. > :42:54.astonishing. It is strange. Ever since he was sent off as a serious

:42:55. > :42:58.punishment everything seems to have fallen flat. They don't seem to be

:42:59. > :43:04.able to score without their top striker. There is almost a feeling

:43:05. > :43:10.they are not bothered about trying to get into the Europa League. It

:43:11. > :43:16.has fallen pretty flat. It is interesting. I look at Alan Pardew,

:43:17. > :43:20.the second longest serving manager in the Premier League, and he will

:43:21. > :43:26.wonder what the future holds at Newcastle in terms of investment.

:43:27. > :43:31.What will happen at Anfield today? I think there will be goals and

:43:32. > :43:40.Manchester city will feel they should lose. A draw. I think

:43:41. > :43:44.Manchester city... I think Manchester city will nick it today.

:43:45. > :43:50.Always, thank you very much indeed and thank you for watching. Don't

:43:51. > :43:55.forget, tonight 's programme will be pretty special at Anfield, with

:43:56. > :44:01.Liverpool versus Manchester city. By bye for now.

:44:02. > :44:05.This is the most priceless work in the artist's collection

:44:06. > :44:12.It took him just five minutes and 20 seconds to create.