:00:27. > :00:30.Good afternoon, welcome to Match of the Day 2 Extra on BBC Two
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:00:49. > :00:58.Over the next 45 minutes we will update you on the big game at
:00:59. > :01:01.Selhurst Park in the fight to stay in the Premier League and Crystal
:01:02. > :01:04.Palace took an early lead against Hull.
:01:05. > :01:11.Swansea won yesterday, beating Sunderland 2-0 at the Stadium Of
:01:12. > :01:14.Light and we will reflect on Chelsea's title triumph in talks
:01:15. > :01:22.birds as they get ready to bid farewell to White Hart Lane. -- we
:01:23. > :01:27.will talk about Spurs. Antonio Conte features on most
:01:28. > :01:30.of the back pages, after reportedly Andy's paper, the Mirror -
:01:31. > :01:50."Conte Me In". Saying they are planning to get rid
:01:51. > :01:58.of players starting with Zabaleta. We can get details of the early game
:01:59. > :02:05.at Selhurst Park. It is on 5 Live. 1-0, the goal coming after three
:02:06. > :02:13.minutes, a horrible moment for Andrea Ranocchia. Missed his kick
:02:14. > :02:17.and in bit Wilfried Zaha, gleefully slotting under the goalkeeper.
:02:18. > :02:23.Selhurst Park erupted. It could have been two. A James Tomkins header
:02:24. > :02:28.drifting wide. As it stands, Hull City will be relegated and a draw
:02:29. > :02:31.would keep them up but if they lose, they will go down and Swansea and
:02:32. > :02:38.Crystal Palace will stay up. They have a lot to do. Leon Osman, you
:02:39. > :02:41.can do all the planning as a manager but if a centre-half makes a mistake
:02:42. > :02:46.like that there is little you can do.
:02:47. > :02:53.You send your team out with all the things you have worked on in
:02:54. > :02:59.training, and a player makes such a horrendous mistake. You are fighting
:03:00. > :03:05.an uphill challenge with your backs against the wall already. 1-0 down
:03:06. > :03:09.and you have their crowd up, you have them really firing. It is
:03:10. > :03:15.difficult from that position. Hull, I assume they will be nervous, the
:03:16. > :03:22.crowd will be nervous, the more we can prey on the nerves, the better.
:03:23. > :03:27.It has not helped. Right now, the crowd firing. I know what it is like
:03:28. > :03:32.playing in front of the Selhurst Park faithful. Once they are up,
:03:33. > :03:40.they are up and it is definitely the man. Wilfried Zaha scoring an early
:03:41. > :03:45.goal leaves Hull with a big task. It was a horrendous error but Zaha had
:03:46. > :03:52.to be aware to capitalise on it. It is important for him, obviously
:03:53. > :03:56.Palace staying in the Premier League, a big moment for him. A
:03:57. > :04:04.shining light of the season, a Premier League style. His awareness
:04:05. > :04:08.to capitalise shows why he is. That is why it is important for him to
:04:09. > :04:13.stay in this league. He showed great composure. He has been criticised
:04:14. > :04:18.for showing his skill, getting into set positions and not showing skill.
:04:19. > :04:22.With that play, and the team sheets, with that type of player in the
:04:23. > :04:30.Palace squad, that is why they should not be in this situation,
:04:31. > :04:38.having to beat Hull. You look at the Hull team. Looking at players I have
:04:39. > :04:42.trained with nine out of 11. I think how have they done it? Nobody
:04:43. > :04:48.understands. Do you understand? I cannot put my finger on it. It is
:04:49. > :04:57.probably the home record that followed us all the way through from
:04:58. > :05:02.2016. Not winning in ages. It affected the team definitely. A lot
:05:03. > :05:14.of the players have been there for the duration. Only three players...
:05:15. > :05:29.You wear blue now, you cannot say" us" any more! I am still a fan. You
:05:30. > :05:41.talk about players you know. This is one of the players you do not know.
:05:42. > :05:47.Millie a. Do you think he has provided a defensive protection. A
:05:48. > :05:55.similar type of player who looks more mobile. Definitely got... He
:05:56. > :06:02.looks like he has helped out Palace. They like him down there. Letting
:06:03. > :06:10.him score a penalty against Arsenal. His first goal. Shows the
:06:11. > :06:16.appreciation. -- Milivojevic. For Hull firms, who are unlikely to be
:06:17. > :06:22.watching this, you could use a similar argument for Hull. They may
:06:23. > :06:28.not get the amount of attention Zaha does in the media but Maguire, young
:06:29. > :06:34.players on the radar of Premier League clubs if they drop out. It is
:06:35. > :06:38.a natural scenario for any team dropping out, players who are
:06:39. > :06:42.ambition, the full-back, Robertson, that type of player would find a
:06:43. > :06:50.club in the Premier League if they want to. It depends on the ongoing
:06:51. > :06:54.situation in the hierarchy, the board, whether they can find the
:06:55. > :07:02.wherewithal, be it financial, to keep the players. You will be
:07:03. > :07:06.manager next season. Silver probably -- Silva probably has a clause where
:07:07. > :07:14.he can leave. For all the good publicity he has generated with the
:07:15. > :07:21.home record, it still looks like a relegation on his CV. They have
:07:22. > :07:25.looked better organise. In patches. At home, barring last week's
:07:26. > :07:30.disaster, they have been impressive at home and have had great victories
:07:31. > :07:38.against sides you would not expect. He has not been able to do anything
:07:39. > :07:42.about the away form. Would Sam Allardyce have kept up Hull? Trying
:07:43. > :07:52.to bedevil's Africa. Answer your question, you are the guest. -- I am
:07:53. > :07:58.trying to play devil's advocate. If you had said to me Sam was available
:07:59. > :08:02.at the time, who would I bring in, I would have brought in Sam Allardyce.
:08:03. > :08:08.Sam Allardyce will be delighted Palace came available because he
:08:09. > :08:13.might have jumped into the Hull job. He went to Palace. He would have
:08:14. > :08:18.been delighted with the squad he got. In my opinion they are a top
:08:19. > :08:22.ten team. They are languishing near the bottom. I put it down to desire
:08:23. > :08:30.of the players when they are out on the field. I do not know them like
:08:31. > :08:34.Yannick. They look like they wait to have someone else reacts first and
:08:35. > :08:40.they can follow them and now they are off it and it has come to it
:08:41. > :08:48.where Sam Allardyce has said it is time to step up. A squad that needs
:08:49. > :08:59.leadership? Palace? Yes. Milivojevic is a big leader. Delaney. He is not
:09:00. > :09:03.playing. It takes a toll on the player when you are not playing. The
:09:04. > :09:10.leadership skills tend to be relaxed. They found a new captain.
:09:11. > :09:16.Jason Puncheon is a great captain. When you go out on the pitch, the
:09:17. > :09:21.captain playing at the back. To set the tempo takes a striker and you
:09:22. > :09:25.bring in someone like Benteke, you get crosses and finishes and
:09:26. > :09:31.hustling feller upfront but he does not start at tempo and chases centre
:09:32. > :09:35.halves. If he does not, people behind think they do not necessarily
:09:36. > :09:42.think they to do it. Would you say Palace have better players? Yes.
:09:43. > :09:49.Then he should have done a better job with the players, is so Silva
:09:50. > :09:55.has done a better job than Sam Allardyce? Is some cases he has a
:09:56. > :10:02.better squad. It took him a while. Three games ago they were thought
:10:03. > :10:06.they were safe. The Manchester City game looked like a game they were
:10:07. > :10:11.not overly interested in. Maybe there was an element of that. I
:10:12. > :10:14.guess you could say that. It looks like he will keep them up and it
:10:15. > :10:21.looks like he will keep them up with a little to spare. He would have
:10:22. > :10:24.gone to Hull and approached it differently possibly with those
:10:25. > :10:28.players, making them harder to beat on the road. Palace, it is not just
:10:29. > :10:33.a question of making them hard to beat but looking at the squad
:10:34. > :10:39.thinking this is a team that should win games. Swansea, a huge win at
:10:40. > :10:47.Sunderland. Their squad are meant to be watching this Crystal Palace and
:10:48. > :10:50.Hull game together. Everton played them last weekend and were beaten by
:10:51. > :10:57.them at the Liberty Stadium. What did the squad say about the Swansea
:10:58. > :11:03.team? They are definitely more up for it, that is for sure. To be
:11:04. > :11:11.honest, the boys will have felt they let themselves down. Especially,
:11:12. > :11:16.myself being a Crystal Palace supporter, I would want Everton to
:11:17. > :11:22.go out and beat them. It happens. We are seventh. Not much to play for.
:11:23. > :11:28.You tend to relax a little bit. It is hard to keep up the tempo. It is
:11:29. > :11:34.not like we can catch the top six, all go down, so technically, it just
:11:35. > :11:40.happens. Paul Clement, what has he done for you? He has got the team
:11:41. > :11:48.together. They were a bit... Certainly flimsy under the previous
:11:49. > :11:56.managers. They had a turnaround. The third manager. Fourth, I don't know.
:11:57. > :12:01.He brought stability. He gave them a shape and place to play from and
:12:02. > :12:07.from that when you have the likes of Llorente to score goals, you have a
:12:08. > :12:12.chance. It is a vague concept but they look well coached as you would
:12:13. > :12:16.imagine from someone of his experience. He will be finding his
:12:17. > :12:22.way into the man management situation and the way he reacts to
:12:23. > :12:25.situations, to winning and defeat. I think he was over exuberant in
:12:26. > :12:32.celebrating some wins, going around the crowd. They lose and suddenly
:12:33. > :12:36.you are under pressure again. Looking at him, he looks like a
:12:37. > :12:44.coach in charge, a guy who has been number two two big clubs. Arguably
:12:45. > :12:49.they needed that. Some might think it over the top going around.
:12:50. > :12:54.Because there were accusations of the club losing its identity because
:12:55. > :12:59.of American investors and one of the things he appears to have done is
:13:00. > :13:05.bring everybody together. The players buying tickets for the fans.
:13:06. > :13:10.That is a conscious decision. That is clearly people behind the scenes.
:13:11. > :13:17.That was Leon Britton, as I understand it. In terms of his
:13:18. > :13:21.interaction with the club, Paul Clement, that is people behind the
:13:22. > :13:31.scenes making the decision to connect. He has made the effort. It
:13:32. > :13:35.has lifted the place. A better atmosphere. Crucially they look a
:13:36. > :13:39.more cohesive unit. Part of what you were saying when they were up for it
:13:40. > :13:44.last week, the atmosphere and crowd players coming together. Paul
:13:45. > :13:54.Clement going around and clapping the standards. It works. There is
:13:55. > :13:59.definitely a togetherness there. If football there is so much
:14:00. > :14:06.exaggeration with that kind of thing but the fans really like that. It is
:14:07. > :14:10.the modern way of the manager to basically go out on the pitch. I
:14:11. > :14:16.used to think the manager should not be near the pitch. Look at the
:14:17. > :14:22.manager who won the title, Antonio Conte, he probably does it the most.
:14:23. > :14:27.The fans respond to it. Did you see Alex Ferguson on the pitch, other
:14:28. > :14:34.than when they scored in the extra 20 minutes of injury time? Maybe not
:14:35. > :14:39.until the end of the season, but I suppose there was never a doubt in
:14:40. > :14:44.Alex Ferguson's loyalty, because he was there so long and in the age
:14:45. > :14:50.when managers come and go more and players, whether it is real or not,
:14:51. > :14:55.you want to see some passion and appreciation for you from them. You
:14:56. > :15:04.are a fan, I am a fan. Maybe I am an old-fashioned band. You will not see
:15:05. > :15:10.Arsene Wenger going to all four corners of the stadium.
:15:11. > :15:18.You don't see him anywhere! I know what she was saying, the passion,
:15:19. > :15:23.but it is a bit of the cult of the manager, that is because now they
:15:24. > :15:28.are as big a star... They were never as big... It was always the star
:15:29. > :15:35.players. You would not get managers, basically, milking the acclaim like
:15:36. > :15:38.they do now. If you have just won the Premier League title and you can
:15:39. > :15:43.dance in front of your fans. But keeping them up is just as big. Not
:15:44. > :15:48.everybody can win. Ten games from the end of the season, I can't and
:15:49. > :15:54.who they beat, then going onto the pitch. It is very curmudgeonly, I
:15:55. > :15:59.know... With ten games to go if you are in a relegation battle, you need
:16:00. > :16:08.to galvanise? I'm pretty sure that was part of what he was to do,
:16:09. > :16:11.showing the fans his team is fighting and how much it means to
:16:12. > :16:14.him, he was probally trying to show the players this is how we can
:16:15. > :16:17.celebrate after games if we are all in this together. He went on a great
:16:18. > :16:23.run when he first came in, they fell away a bit but now they are back on
:16:24. > :16:26.a good run. In no small part, in my opinion, to Leon Britton. Clement
:16:27. > :16:34.did not seem to fancy him at first and played him -- fancy at first,
:16:35. > :16:39.but now he is playing him and realising what an acid years. One
:16:40. > :16:44.reviewer says that for Hull to stay up as an achievement. Jackson says
:16:45. > :16:51.it is a big game for Swansea fans, we need Palace to win. They are 1-0
:16:52. > :16:59.up at the moment. Huddersfield and Sheffield Wednesday 0- in the
:17:00. > :17:03.Championship play up -- play-off. Somebody is saying about the rent
:17:04. > :17:11.say is one of the key players, would you say he was? Who is that? Low
:17:12. > :17:18.rent a? Definitely, his goals have been fantastic. If you have a
:17:19. > :17:21.striker but can score goals, you put it in on his head. If you have
:17:22. > :17:26.somebody with the ammunition and firepower, let's play to the
:17:27. > :17:29.strengths of Llorente. Swansea are a passing progressive team. When they
:17:30. > :17:31.get into the final third, they know they want to get the ball to
:17:32. > :17:44.Llorente. Most of the papers have the quote
:17:45. > :17:47.that he is staying, Antonio Conte, despite the reported interest from
:17:48. > :17:59.inter-Milan, and a new contract could be on the table. It is serious
:18:00. > :18:03.interest from Inter Milan. What I would say is that in the immediate
:18:04. > :18:09.aftermath he will not say I am not sure. He will not say I am undecided
:18:10. > :18:17.whether I will stay or not. There is an element of he would say that,
:18:18. > :18:22.wouldn't he?! But I think over the last couple of months it is by no
:18:23. > :18:27.means 100% certain that he would stay. From two elements. Have you
:18:28. > :18:32.settled in London? His family have not moved to London yet, I think he
:18:33. > :18:35.hopes for his wife and daughter to come in the summer, they were at the
:18:36. > :18:40.game the other day at Stamford Bridge. You can't underestimate if a
:18:41. > :18:44.guy has not settled and maybe wants to go home. That does not seem to
:18:45. > :18:51.have been resolved. Professionally, it would be a big challenge going to
:18:52. > :19:03.Inter. Newly owned, relatively newly in the last two years. Big money to
:19:04. > :19:06.spend, big money to offer him. He looks around the Premier League now,
:19:07. > :19:09.he will look at Jose Mourinho, Pep and their salaries and think I am on
:19:10. > :19:12.half of that, I might want to upgrade. The consensus now is that
:19:13. > :19:15.it is designed that they will come to him with a new deal and most of
:19:16. > :19:23.the papers say it would be record-breaking, but I would not say
:19:24. > :19:28.100%. 99, maybe, not 100%. You can see from his perspective in that if
:19:29. > :19:33.he looks at Mourinho or Guardiola or Klopp or whatever and goes, I am not
:19:34. > :19:36.getting what they are and I have won the title, you can understand
:19:37. > :19:40.wanting parity with your peers if you are the title winner. When you
:19:41. > :19:47.do the job, you always have a right to demand. He has come in in his
:19:48. > :19:51.first season and won the Premier League with a team, technically,
:19:52. > :19:54.that was struggling last season. They still have the Champions League
:19:55. > :20:02.to play for this season. Winning the Premier League is still a big
:20:03. > :20:09.especially with all the managers. Is Yannick was talking, Leon, who has
:20:10. > :20:13.paid no attention at all... I heard everything he said! Made a little
:20:14. > :20:18.move because there has been another goal at Selhurst Park. We will go
:20:19. > :20:23.there very shortly. Christian Benteke has scored. Crystal Palace
:20:24. > :20:31.are no two goals to the goods is home to Hull. It came from a corner,
:20:32. > :20:36.John Southall can describe. Crystal Palace two, Hull City nil.
:20:37. > :20:38.Hull City are looking doomed. They corner from the right-hand side,
:20:39. > :20:43.Christian Benteke rose five yards out to power the ball into the back
:20:44. > :20:48.of the net for his 15th league goal of the season. Hull City really need
:20:49. > :20:55.to win this game, they trailing 2-0 and look like they are heading to
:20:56. > :20:59.the Championship. In this game, Palace have cause to Hull lots of
:21:00. > :21:07.problems really. Tompkins almost scored as well. Knowing what the
:21:08. > :21:13.teamwork on, and the boys, Big Sam always works on set plays. That is
:21:14. > :21:21.the training ground peace. Six foot plus, lots of the Palace players.
:21:22. > :21:28.Three centre halves in Maguire, Dawson and Rodon here. Maybe they
:21:29. > :21:32.should be able to compete, but when you have the likes of Benteke and
:21:33. > :21:41.Tompkins, get set pieces, get the ball in the box, we will ). 2-0 to
:21:42. > :21:44.Crystal Palace against Hull. Still goalless in the Championship
:21:45. > :21:48.play-off between Huddersfield and Sheffield Wednesday. The Telegraph
:21:49. > :21:52.says that Antonio Conte will have ?2 million to spend this summer -- ?200
:21:53. > :21:57.million to spend. How much do you think they need to strengthen? I
:21:58. > :22:01.think Sir Alex Ferguson said it a number of years ago, the best time
:22:02. > :22:06.to strengthen its when you have just won something. I agree. I think he
:22:07. > :22:15.will splash the cash. I think there are some players are Chelsea Lewis
:22:16. > :22:17.believe, John Terry is certainly on his way out, Willian possibly going,
:22:18. > :22:21.will Fabregas be happy being a bit part player again? They could be
:22:22. > :22:24.losing quality players, they will have to strengthen, meaning more
:22:25. > :22:27.competition. I looked at Jose Mourinho in the summer when he won
:22:28. > :22:32.the Premier League, moving into the next season when he got the sack,
:22:33. > :22:35.the only player of note he brought in was Pedro, he tried to bring in
:22:36. > :22:39.others but they were not successful, I believe that was a big
:22:40. > :22:43.contribution to him getting the sack, the lack of competition for
:22:44. > :22:48.places. Players can get a bit relaxed and what they have done and
:22:49. > :22:53.what position they have held. The competition comes with signing new
:22:54. > :22:58.players. That would have been another element in Conte's mind,
:22:59. > :23:03.finding out what he has to spend and how he can strengthen. He will know
:23:04. > :23:07.that his schedule will be busy next year, clearly, a European schedule
:23:08. > :23:13.to content with, he knows all about that. He will be thinking, hang on,
:23:14. > :23:17.you will also know he is a little bit... I would not say fortunate
:23:18. > :23:21.that he has been privileged to have to make so few changes. It has been
:23:22. > :23:29.highlighted, probably the least number of changes in the Premier
:23:30. > :23:35.League, at the top end. The same as Leicester last season, winning
:23:36. > :23:39.formula. Don't play any rug, win the title! That was never the case until
:23:40. > :23:44.Lester did it. Previously to Leicester doing it... Liverpool got
:23:45. > :23:48.really close, barring the Steven Gerrard slip. That is the best they
:23:49. > :23:52.have done, they were not in Europe. For these teams are the top 12 or 13
:23:53. > :23:56.players, Chelsea probably have a bigger squad than most but if you
:23:57. > :24:03.have 12 of 30 players that don't have the extra games in Europe... It
:24:04. > :24:06.has become like this in the last couple of seasons, the last team to
:24:07. > :24:10.win, it was not the Premier League, it was the last season of the old
:24:11. > :24:15.division, Leeds, they were not in Europe. From then on until Lester,
:24:16. > :24:19.every team has been in Europe. Now it is getting more physically
:24:20. > :24:26.demanding, there has been appointed. Grujic is reference to the Steven
:24:27. > :24:29.Gerrard stuff extra measure my -- a gratuitous reference. I can't
:24:30. > :24:36.believe the camera caught me smiling! Is the fellow Premier
:24:37. > :24:44.League winner, when you watch him, what do you see in his game that you
:24:45. > :24:48.would like to add to yours? Hazard is a great player, obviously. The
:24:49. > :24:53.thing I would like to take off him, if I was going to take something,
:24:54. > :24:58.was the way he stands in pockets and it's really patient. Sometimes I can
:24:59. > :25:03.go in a pocket and I'm standing but I'm thinking the ball needs to come
:25:04. > :25:09.now, now, now. If it don't come I end up going out wide. But stays,
:25:10. > :25:16.makes the team shuffle across and is still in the same position where he
:25:17. > :25:25.knows if he gets on the half turn... That is patience? Patience and
:25:26. > :25:29.knowledge. The fact that Hazard... Lots of academy players I see coming
:25:30. > :25:33.through are doing the same thing, hanging around in pockets. A player
:25:34. > :25:37.like myself who has come through the non-league system, it is one of the
:25:38. > :25:42.things we tend to miss from our game and have to minute at a later stage.
:25:43. > :25:48.When you learn it at a younger stage, becomes as simple as opening
:25:49. > :25:52.a book. The fact that Hazard has it, it gives him an advantage,
:25:53. > :25:56.especially the way he plays, he is so quick and runs at players and
:25:57. > :26:02.goes that you from the centre, literally running the centre-back,
:26:03. > :26:10.it makes it harder to mark. Or you are trying to teach yourself that
:26:11. > :26:13.ability? I have had Alan Pardew playing me in number ten, that
:26:14. > :26:19.helped a lot. When you tend to come out wide and do it, it is different.
:26:20. > :26:23.It is easier through the middle. When you are out wide and coming
:26:24. > :26:32.into my pocket, it is a lot harder. The way Everton are playing at the
:26:33. > :26:35.moment has a lot to do with that. It caused me some problems at the start
:26:36. > :26:43.of the season but I started getting better. I am sure I will pick at it
:26:44. > :26:45.differently. Lots has been made of the Chelsea formation, the formation
:26:46. > :26:50.really benefits them in that situation because you will have
:26:51. > :26:55.players going alongside. In the same way as you learn at Everton, when he
:26:56. > :27:00.is back fits, you would have Seamus Coleman doing the same thing? I will
:27:01. > :27:06.go back to when we played against Chelsea and lost 5-0 at Stamford
:27:07. > :27:11.Bridge. It made it so hard... My full-back, shameless probably did
:27:12. > :27:16.not want to go in there. Alonso would be making much run. If I'm
:27:17. > :27:24.following Alonso every time, how will I... I tried to cover Hazard,
:27:25. > :27:28.which makes it even harder. Am I listening to my instructions from
:27:29. > :27:37.behind? How will I follow him? Especially if he is that quick. It
:27:38. > :27:43.is a clever formation. Definitely. It has gone well in certain
:27:44. > :27:49.occasions but it looks like the Chelsea boys... They tried to go
:27:50. > :27:53.4-3-3, eventually said no, we will stick it out at the usual formation.
:27:54. > :27:54.The Championship play-off first leg between Huddersfield
:27:55. > :27:57.and Sheffield Wednesday is under way.
:27:58. > :28:10.It is still 0-0, fifth against fourth in the jumping Chapecoense.
:28:11. > :28:16.Great atmosphere at the stadium. Yet to have an attempt on target.
:28:17. > :28:24.Huddersfield have dominated, Brown grades the crossbar and Erin Moyes
:28:25. > :28:28.sought an effort to be a wide. -- saw an effort. Andy on Twitter says
:28:29. > :28:31.that at this rate Newcastle will have lots of troubling to do, their
:28:32. > :28:37.nearest away match could be in Manchester. A few others in the
:28:38. > :28:42.North will have to do a lot of travelling next season! -- a few of
:28:43. > :28:48.us in the north. Leon just wants to watch the football, so I will talk
:28:49. > :28:53.to you! How is your recovery? I could not be in a better stage right
:28:54. > :29:01.now, not trying to force anything but now I am in a good state of mind
:29:02. > :29:05.physically and mentally. Of, we were saying you are the kind of person
:29:06. > :29:13.that wants to set yourself a target but you have done that yet? I have
:29:14. > :29:19.not done that just yet. I like to see the end goal. For example,
:29:20. > :29:23.Everton, their end goal would be finishing in the top six. It is like
:29:24. > :29:28.myself as a player, you need to know the end goal and as you are going on
:29:29. > :29:33.the way, if there are setbacks then you adjust, but you know the end
:29:34. > :29:37.goal. Do you feel this is a positive time for your former club? I do. You
:29:38. > :29:42.look at the way Ronald Koeman strengthened when he came in. The
:29:43. > :29:46.club move forward. People working behind the scenes to make the club
:29:47. > :29:51.move in the right direction. For a large part of the season we have had
:29:52. > :29:56.players like Yannick missing. I expect they will strengthen again
:29:57. > :30:02.over the summer if we can keep our better players, be a keeping club
:30:03. > :30:06.rather than a club who has to cell. Strengthen and then get players like
:30:07. > :30:11.Yannick and Seamus who have missed a big chunk, that is a great addition.
:30:12. > :30:15.Talking about Conte strengthening, if Everton continued they can
:30:16. > :30:16.compete at the next stage, the top six, and potentially go up. How
:30:17. > :30:25.would you describe the season? At the start of the season if you
:30:26. > :30:29.thought how many points they would get you would come up with something
:30:30. > :30:36.around a smart. They have been great at home. The current state, these
:30:37. > :30:42.next two, three months are important, what happens with Lukaku?
:30:43. > :30:47.What I'm getting, I think, even though his situation is more urgent,
:30:48. > :30:51.I think Lukaku, if I had to save one of them will go it will be him and
:30:52. > :30:57.that will be a big blow. Ross Barkley. I don't know. He is playing
:30:58. > :31:00.a strange game not to sign by now but I would not be surprised if he
:31:01. > :31:06.stays but I would not be surprised if he said to the board, what is
:31:07. > :31:10.happening with Lukaku? It is OK Everton saying to Ross Barkley sign
:31:11. > :31:20.this contract or you are being sold, when they might say Lukaku has two
:31:21. > :31:23.years of his contract left. If they could hold onto those and
:31:24. > :31:28.strengthening, they could challenge the top six and make the big six,
:31:29. > :31:36.big seven. How have you found your manager to work for? When you ask a
:31:37. > :31:42.player, they go, he is brilliant. The awards dinner the other night,
:31:43. > :31:47.Lukaku was honest, saying he has improved me. But we have had times
:31:48. > :31:54.when we have fallen out. He was honest, how have you found a
:31:55. > :32:00.manager? He is like that, he is chilled out, but he ain't. I am more
:32:01. > :32:04.relaxed. I am a little bit older. The manager has been fantastic to
:32:05. > :32:09.me, ever since I have been injured, the staff, as well, the support has
:32:10. > :32:14.been incredible and for me, I am looking forward to being back.
:32:15. > :32:18.Playing and doing well and showing the fans what I am about because I
:32:19. > :32:24.don't think I have shown them what I can do. You talk about Ross Barkley
:32:25. > :32:32.and Romelu Lukaku, but Everton under 23s won .pl two, their division.
:32:33. > :32:38.Several have played in the first team. There are others going
:32:39. > :32:43.through. A lot of players coming through, but like Leon Osman says,
:32:44. > :32:49.we have probably got to bring in players to freshen up the
:32:50. > :32:52.competition. Bringing in players helps players like myself, anyone
:32:53. > :33:00.else in the team, to raise their game. If we can do that, hopefully
:33:01. > :33:05.we can be challenging. Agreed. It is a great sign the young lads are
:33:06. > :33:10.doing so well. They have potential. Now we are talking about Everton
:33:11. > :33:15.making the next step and becoming a top six guaranteed club and moving
:33:16. > :33:19.on. You have to have top young players to help the first team
:33:20. > :33:22.improve and the next step would be to strengthen by bringing in
:33:23. > :33:27.players. Ronald Koeman has done a great job. He seems to have been
:33:28. > :33:35.more strict than the previous regime which the players have needed.
:33:36. > :33:40.Ronald Koeman seems to have not exactly a my way or the highway, but
:33:41. > :33:46.do what I tell you, maybe not far off. I think the club may be needed
:33:47. > :33:49.that. You have seen that in the home form. The fact Everton have
:33:50. > :33:58.progressed. Let's go back to Selhurst Park. Crystal Palace
:33:59. > :34:03.leading Hull City 2-0. The referee's whistle should go any moment. A
:34:04. > :34:09.horrendous first half for Hull City, who are being relegated at the
:34:10. > :34:12.moment. The first was a shocker. Ranocchia missing his clearance just
:34:13. > :34:16.outside the penalty area and Wilfried Zaha slotting it under the
:34:17. > :34:21.keeper. There goes the whistle. The second from the corner on the right,
:34:22. > :34:25.Jason Puncheon with the corner and wrist in Benteke with the header.
:34:26. > :34:29.There was a controversial moments before half-time. A Grosicki free
:34:30. > :34:34.kick on the left-hand side and it looked like Puncheon handball and
:34:35. > :34:40.the referee did not give the penalty and Hull City need those decisions
:34:41. > :34:44.to go their way. As they go off at half-time, they have 45 minutes to
:34:45. > :34:53.save their Premier League status. At the moment it is hanging by a very
:34:54. > :34:56.thin thread. Half-time has gone in the Championship play-off semifinal
:34:57. > :34:57.first leg and that is goalless between Huddersfield and Sheffield
:34:58. > :35:00.Wednesday. At 4:30 on 5Live, you can hear
:35:01. > :35:03.commentary of Tottenham's final game at White Hart Lane against Mancheser
:35:04. > :35:14.United. Did you enjoy playing at Spurs? I
:35:15. > :35:22.loved it, my favourite away ground. I made my debut there. Back in what
:35:23. > :35:27.was a 4-3 defeat. I came on in the 97th minute and played 90 seconds
:35:28. > :35:33.and definitely touched the ball! Although that did not go well, and
:35:34. > :35:39.another couple of defeats, we won three on the run down there and I
:35:40. > :35:46.think we had not won as a club since 1987, and we won three on the run
:35:47. > :35:49.and I scored a goal or two. I am surprised you have not been asked
:35:50. > :35:54.back! I thought I would have been. I have my suit, just in case. Did you
:35:55. > :36:07.enjoy playing their? Yes. A lot of the times. Won in the quarterfinal
:36:08. > :36:13.of the FA Cup, last season. It has been an enjoyable place. Do you like
:36:14. > :36:17.the crowd on top of you? I do. The atmosphere. When they don't like
:36:18. > :36:21.you, it gives you more edge to hurt the team you are playing against and
:36:22. > :36:26.I like that. You said you will miss it because the press box is great,
:36:27. > :36:38.over the tunnel. You can see the bus stop new Mac. When the new press box
:36:39. > :36:43.was designed -- bust ups. We are low-down but we are next to the
:36:44. > :36:50.dugout and the tunnel. You sort of hangover and see the players walking
:36:51. > :36:57.in. You will notice an inordinate amount of Spurs tunnel bust ups
:36:58. > :37:05.stories because that is because we conceive. In the Derby, you see what
:37:06. > :37:12.it is about, it was about a drugs test. Having said that, I did notice
:37:13. > :37:15.it will... Will Spurs have a glass tunnel when you pay extra money and
:37:16. > :37:24.watch what goes on as they come through? What went on in the tunnel
:37:25. > :37:30.always stayed at the tunnel. Remember that? Unless at Spurs, when
:37:31. > :37:34.the press can crane their necks and looked over. It is a great
:37:35. > :37:40.atmosphere and I am glad it is staying where it is. These stadiums.
:37:41. > :37:45.The bricks and mortar change, dramatically. White Hart Lane from
:37:46. > :37:54.ten, 20 years ago is nothing like it is now, they change all the time. It
:37:55. > :38:00.is like Trigger's broom. The Anfield of today is not like the Anfield my
:38:01. > :38:07.dad went to. But it is the area, the routine. Upton Park we miss, it is
:38:08. > :38:17.the area, the atmosphere. The same people you see and routine you have.
:38:18. > :38:21.The same pubs and cafes. In a way, it is good, I think it remains in
:38:22. > :38:28.the area and it will not be out of town. Not remote from wherever it
:38:29. > :38:32.has been. I have not seen the plans for the new stadium but White Hart
:38:33. > :38:39.Lane is what you would class as a good, traditional British ground
:38:40. > :38:45.from years ago. You have the modern stadiums. It was steeped in history,
:38:46. > :38:47.tight, a good ground. The noise they made was fantastic and a great
:38:48. > :38:56.ground to play at regardless of the result. I am fascinated when you
:38:57. > :39:01.speak to players, how it works to your advantage. How Goodison Park
:39:02. > :39:06.works for Everton, White Hart Lane for Spurs, and when you go somewhere
:39:07. > :39:13.like the London Stadium, more anaesthetised, is there a
:39:14. > :39:17.difference? Palace is an intimidating place. They are on top
:39:18. > :39:23.of you and the noise they make, they are jumping up and down. Manchester
:39:24. > :39:29.City, asked, new stadiums. They are not so much. The crowd is set back,
:39:30. > :39:34.not as much as the London stadium but setback and the seats are more
:39:35. > :39:37.comfortable. They are not on top of each other like a Palace and
:39:38. > :39:42.Goodison and White Hart Lane at the moment. These new grams have to come
:39:43. > :39:49.into modern eyes football and create more money, but the old grounds were
:39:50. > :39:55.great to play in. You say at Spurs you used it to your advantage. Do
:39:56. > :39:59.you get intimidated? There is not a game where a player goes to take the
:40:00. > :40:02.corner near the away fans, home fans, and there are gestures going
:40:03. > :40:11.on at that player. Do you look and see that, can you blanket out? I
:40:12. > :40:17.have looked and when I have looked I have hands pointing. I laugh it off.
:40:18. > :40:26.I have just won a corner for my team. With those grounds you will
:40:27. > :40:31.get it, especially when they are on top of you. I probably got abused at
:40:32. > :40:34.Goodison more than anywhere else. It is great you know that is there. The
:40:35. > :40:42.opposition getting twice as much as you are. Do you expect Spurs to win?
:40:43. > :40:46.I do and talking about the emotion, that will lift them. Manchester
:40:47. > :40:51.United have their mind on other things. It will complete an unbeaten
:40:52. > :40:57.season at home, the home they are leaving, and going to Wembley, and
:40:58. > :41:10.we know what happens there. As far as the top four is concerned. In
:41:11. > :41:16.this top four chat, we ought to keep saying, you really want to finish
:41:17. > :41:23.third, not forth, in this because you avoid the qualifier and go into
:41:24. > :41:30.the group stage. You would rather finish fourth and fifth! Liverpool
:41:31. > :41:34.have a tough game at West Ham, especially after the performance
:41:35. > :41:39.against Spurs. They know how to get a result and what it requires, those
:41:40. > :41:43.players. Probably their last home game of the season, which brings
:41:44. > :41:48.more. It will be tough for Liverpool, but they tend to win
:41:49. > :41:51.games when they are up against it. It is Middlesbrough next week where
:41:52. > :41:59.Liverpool will struggle. I expect to win today. This is no comment on any
:42:00. > :42:04.team going for the top four, but it is just the way football work
:42:05. > :42:09.sometimes, there is no analysis, the feeling that after everything this
:42:10. > :42:17.season, Arsenal finish fourth. Do you know what I mean? And win the FA
:42:18. > :42:24.Cup. Probably. Everybody saying... What a manager! I was at Stoke
:42:25. > :42:30.yesterday and the Arsenal fans were singing Arsene Wenger's name. Mesut
:42:31. > :42:38.Ozil scores and they are singing about him. Arsenal win 4-1 and you
:42:39. > :42:47.think, it is a typical Arsenal world. That could happen. In the
:42:48. > :42:51.past they have got to this stage and it has been in their hands, but it
:42:52. > :42:56.is not and if Liverpool win this afternoon, that should be it. As
:42:57. > :43:02.Leon says, Liverpool, when they have their backs against the wall are
:43:03. > :43:06.more likely to come good. Liverpool, no, I think West Ham will give them
:43:07. > :43:12.a good challenge. My gut feeling is telling me Arsenal will finish in
:43:13. > :43:24.the top four. They play Everton on the last day of the season. We are
:43:25. > :43:30.in good form. It has always been the way for me. West Ham no Liverpool
:43:31. > :43:34.have to come to get the result which will help West Ham. With Arsenal,
:43:35. > :43:39.they always seem to come good when the pressure is off, basically came
:43:40. > :43:44.from nowhere. When they are expected to win it is more difficult. I think
:43:45. > :43:54.Arsenal could potentially finish fourth. It is on this game today.
:43:55. > :43:58.Hull's game against Crystal Palace is on 5 Live. We will have
:43:59. > :44:01.highlights on Match Of The Day to later. Goodbye.