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:00:28. > :00:37.Hello. Welcome to Match of the Day to extra this Sunday lunchtime. With

:00:38. > :00:48.me, the former England captain, Alan Shearer. Also Mark Schwarzer and the

:00:49. > :00:52.chief football correspondent from the Telegraph, Jason Burt. You can

:00:53. > :00:59.send us a text on the following subjects over the next 45 minutes.

:01:00. > :01:05.We will ask, what does the future hold for Diego Costa? Harry Kane's

:01:06. > :01:09.trick takes Spurs second, seven behind Chelsea for the bid will look

:01:10. > :01:18.ahead to the huge game at Old Trafford where Manchester United

:01:19. > :01:32.play Liverpool. As for the headlines this morning, Diego Costa dominates.

:01:33. > :01:45.You were at the game with Leicester where Chelsea won 3-0. Did they miss

:01:46. > :01:50.Diego Costa? Chelsea more than help themselves without him. The way the

:01:51. > :01:59.front three played with Pedro, hazard and Willian, they were

:02:00. > :02:02.brilliant. The question will be when they come up against better

:02:03. > :02:07.opposition. That will be a big challenge when they come up against

:02:08. > :02:14.the bigger teams. Will they miss Diego Costa? They will miss him. He

:02:15. > :02:20.has scored goals and assists and been integral about everything good

:02:21. > :02:26.about Chelsea. It will be a huge, uphill struggle to win the league

:02:27. > :02:33.without him. Do they have to miss Diego Costa? Nope. I think they will

:02:34. > :02:38.not sell him this winter but they will try to rehabilitate him back

:02:39. > :02:42.into the team. That is partly by Antonio Conte spoke the way he did

:02:43. > :02:49.yesterday. Perhaps a very different approach from Slaven Bilic with

:02:50. > :02:53.Dmitri Payet at. At Chelsea, it is very saddening terms of the offer

:02:54. > :02:57.from China. There is some tooling and throwing as to whether or not

:02:58. > :03:01.there is an from the table. His head has been turned for. He wants to

:03:02. > :03:09.look at that. The money on the table is huge. If you are only looking at

:03:10. > :03:14.what has been said, on the record, he has a back strain and he has

:03:15. > :03:19.argued with the fitness coach. You will not reveal sources of who said

:03:20. > :03:26.what behind-the-scenes. The use sense that the Chinese briefing is

:03:27. > :03:33.coming from one side all the other or from both parties? Do you sense?

:03:34. > :03:39.The story broke on Friday. The Daily Mail got the story and put it out

:03:40. > :03:44.there. Everyone has tried to verify it. The element of the bid from

:03:45. > :03:49.China has come out as well. There are various parties involved in

:03:50. > :03:52.that. People like Chelsea are well aware of the situation. Diego Costa

:03:53. > :03:58.has always been fairly unsettled at the club. I never thought he really

:03:59. > :04:02.wanted to move in the first place. He wanted to go back to Real Madrid

:04:03. > :04:07.and Chelsea have managed to keep him on board. If this big offer is on

:04:08. > :04:11.the table, it will make a big difference to Diego Costa. A

:04:12. > :04:17.Brazilian guy who has come from the middle of nowhere. Coming to Chelsea

:04:18. > :04:23.is not his dream. He can be quite disruptive character at times. What

:04:24. > :04:28.Chelsea are trying to do is close this story down. Yesterday was all

:04:29. > :04:35.about closing the story down. Yes, there is a back injury of sorts.

:04:36. > :04:40.Interestingly, Dmitri Payet has a back injury and are difficult to

:04:41. > :04:44.quantify. They want to get him on board as quickly as possible. They

:04:45. > :04:49.wanted out there that, from their point of view, we will publicly say

:04:50. > :04:52.there is a back injury for the behind-the-scenes they will try to

:04:53. > :04:59.keep him on board. I do not see them selling him this window. Next summer

:05:00. > :05:03.it might be different. In the summer we could possibly see him leaving

:05:04. > :05:11.the club. The story will not go away until he starts to play again.

:05:12. > :05:14.Absolutely. You are right. How bad is the back injury? Eventually

:05:15. > :05:20.Chelsea will have to talk more openly about the situation. Would it

:05:21. > :05:25.be a problem him being around the club, even playing for the club up

:05:26. > :05:30.till the summer, if you knew he was going? That is from a fellow

:05:31. > :05:34.player's perspective. He does not think Diego Costa even wanted to

:05:35. > :05:39.come to the club in the first place. Last season the whole season did not

:05:40. > :05:44.play particularly well. The two seasons in between, he has done

:05:45. > :05:49.very, very well. The bottom line is, if he comes back into the side and

:05:50. > :05:55.start scoring goals again, people will forget about it. Inevitably, he

:05:56. > :05:58.will dictate the situation. He will decide what happens. The players

:05:59. > :06:02.have the vast majority of the powerful if he does not want to be

:06:03. > :06:08.there, he will leave. Whether in this window or the summer, the same

:06:09. > :06:12.will happen with Dmitri Payet. Would you have any problem with that being

:06:13. > :06:19.in the squad for the remainder of the season? It depends how bad apple

:06:20. > :06:23.he would become. If it affects the dressing room then you will have to

:06:24. > :06:28.get rid. I do not know how close he is to the rest of the Chelsea

:06:29. > :06:34.players or with Dmitri Payet. As soon as it affects the dressing

:06:35. > :06:37.room, you have to get rid. He is a big character and someone a lot of

:06:38. > :06:42.players do like. He is always joking and has a great attitude when it

:06:43. > :06:50.comes to training. If he does then decide to throw his toys out of the

:06:51. > :06:54.pram and wants to leave, knowing what Chelsea is like and how he

:06:55. > :06:58.wants the team attitude and work ethic, like they showed yesterday,

:06:59. > :07:06.again they will not want to have that type of character around the

:07:07. > :07:11.training ground and changing room. I think he is a volatile character.

:07:12. > :07:20.Hope is that they will get him back on track quickly. He is back to his

:07:21. > :07:24.fitness coach -- Antonio Conte has backed his fitness coach in theirs.

:07:25. > :07:30.Hopefully they can move on in all of this. Partly the tactic yesterday

:07:31. > :07:35.they tried to close the story down by saying it was a fitness issue.

:07:36. > :07:39.Also what massively helped Chelsea yesterday was they won. That helped

:07:40. > :07:45.the manager a lot. They will wanted to go away as quickly as possible.

:07:46. > :07:50.Knowing a bit about Diego Costa, he wanted to go last summer but they

:07:51. > :07:54.managed to keep him. He has not been massively settled that Chelsea

:07:55. > :07:59.throughout his career. He has done very well there, 100%. I do not

:08:00. > :08:06.think he will be at Chelsea for the long haul. You have been at the

:08:07. > :08:11.Chelsea dressing room with him. You had the same first season. As I

:08:12. > :08:16.understand it, the private Diego Costa is different to the public one

:08:17. > :08:24.we see on the field. Definitely. On the pitch he is a fighter. He wants

:08:25. > :08:31.to scrap for everything. Off the pitch he is a joker. He loves that

:08:32. > :08:38.position in the squad. For me, in the end, who knows? They may

:08:39. > :08:44.surprise us. It may be completely blown out of all proportion. That

:08:45. > :08:50.must be their priority, sitting down with him and speaking to him. It has

:08:51. > :08:56.not been blown out of proportion. The story is true. He wants to go.

:08:57. > :09:05.The extent of the back injury I do not know about and I do not think

:09:06. > :09:11.that Chelsea know about it, Forshaw. This is a huge story. The team at

:09:12. > :09:14.the top of the league possibly wanting to go to China. I'm not

:09:15. > :09:18.talking about players on the bench and over the hill. I am talking

:09:19. > :09:25.about a player at the prime of his career wanting to leave Chelsea and

:09:26. > :09:29.go to China. It a huge story. If you live by inflated wages, you die by

:09:30. > :09:38.it. Chelsea need a fit and focused Diego Costa. If I was content I

:09:39. > :09:46.would say no player is bigger than the club, go and rot in the

:09:47. > :09:51.reserves. -- Antonio content. In an ideal world, that is what you would

:09:52. > :09:58.do. We will sit to you in the reserves. Is that hard to enforce?

:09:59. > :10:03.It is virtually impossible. He has to walk into the dressing room with

:10:04. > :10:07.the rest of the players. He is still one of your players foot if you

:10:08. > :10:15.tried to enforce all of these rules, you have the PFA coming to scream at

:10:16. > :10:21.you. -- if you try. That is the way it works. Jermaine Jenas said they

:10:22. > :10:25.had to get into the new Spurs training ground with fingerprint

:10:26. > :10:34.access. One summer, his stopped working for the back is how he got

:10:35. > :10:39.the message he was not there. If they got, if the 8 million offer is

:10:40. > :10:43.on the table, is it unrealistic to say they would sell him and bring

:10:44. > :10:50.summary in to do a job for them before the end of the transfer

:10:51. > :10:58.window? I do not think it was unrealistic. These clubs have an

:10:59. > :11:04.enormous scouting network. I think they will always have a Plan B and a

:11:05. > :11:08.plan C. If the scenario does happen, they will get as much money as they

:11:09. > :11:14.can and bring in someone replace him. I am not sure that Roman

:11:15. > :11:18.Abramowitz will want to be pushed around by the Chinese market. He is

:11:19. > :11:22.a Russian billionaire and has spent a lot of money. He will not want his

:11:23. > :11:29.players to dictate to him the way that Diego Costa is trying to do. At

:11:30. > :11:35.times like that, they will put their foot down and you cannot force the

:11:36. > :11:40.situation. Roman Abramowitz will not be pushed around. If he is going to

:11:41. > :11:44.go, it will more likely be the summer. Getting a replacement in

:11:45. > :11:48.this window will be nigh on impossible to get in the right

:11:49. > :11:55.player. Simon said, I would let him rot in the reserves and train on his

:11:56. > :12:01.own. He is not talking about Diego Costa but Dmitri Payet. Ryan says,

:12:02. > :12:04.caching and by players who want to contribute. What is the point of

:12:05. > :12:10.keeping Payet and ruined team spirit. West Ham got a good season

:12:11. > :12:14.out of him, let him go for the what would you do with him? If it is

:12:15. > :12:19.quite clear he has said what we think he has said to Slaven Bilic,

:12:20. > :12:24.that he is refusing to play, it is the same thing. You must sell him.

:12:25. > :12:31.Get as much as you can. Take the hit. If it starts to affect the

:12:32. > :12:36.dressing room but that is more important to the team than one

:12:37. > :12:41.player. I agree. He is a commodity but if a player does not want to be

:12:42. > :12:45.there, is refusing to play, is a bad apple. Players yesterday, you could

:12:46. > :12:50.see West Ham players coming out and saying, we have a great, close-knit

:12:51. > :12:54.unit here. We don't want any disruption with players being a bad

:12:55. > :12:58.apple. We want to concentrate on playing football. They can win games

:12:59. > :13:03.without him. Get as much money as you can and bring in players who

:13:04. > :13:08.want to play for the club. I think he is more likely to go in the

:13:09. > :13:13.January window than Diego Costa. If the right offer comes in, they will

:13:14. > :13:20.let him go. He is saying he wants to go back to Marseille for personal

:13:21. > :13:24.reasons. Just under ?20 million. The think his circumstances are

:13:25. > :13:30.different? He has a French wife and three kids. If he wants to go back

:13:31. > :13:35.to a specific club, let's see. He will not play for West Ham again and

:13:36. > :13:39.he wants to go back for personal reasons. Presumably he had a French

:13:40. > :13:47.wife and kids before he came to West Ham! Presumably so. It will be a

:13:48. > :13:51.long day. In his career, he did move around clubs a lot. He moved around

:13:52. > :13:56.France a lot. West Ham brought him over. He has done very well for

:13:57. > :14:04.them. He has been unsettled for a long time for the he came back from

:14:05. > :14:08.the Euros, expecting to leave. -- a long time. West Ham did not have a

:14:09. > :14:17.single offer. Nobody has made an offer. You cannot go. Three months

:14:18. > :14:21.after his loan, he has done this to him. Slaven Bilic has worked

:14:22. > :14:26.extremely hard to make Dmitri Payet happy. He was the player he really

:14:27. > :14:31.wanted. He has worked with him a lot in terms of developing the player.

:14:32. > :14:37.For Slaven Bilic to come out and say what he did... That was the last

:14:38. > :14:42.straw. I have nowhere else to go I have to tell this story from when he

:14:43. > :14:47.was on the bench in the FA Cup, and put him on at 4-0 down, that said

:14:48. > :14:52.the story. He is trying to prove a point by putting on a forward when

:14:53. > :15:00.you are 4-0 down at home. He is saying, I am the boss. For most of

:15:01. > :15:04.the season, Dmitri Payet has been unhappy. They have tried everything

:15:05. > :15:09.to get him back on board. Slaven Bilic probably felt, with the full

:15:10. > :15:14.authority of the club, that was the final straw. Oliver Holt has written

:15:15. > :15:18.in the mail today, anyone who thinks there's loyalty left in football is

:15:19. > :15:24.an idiot. We mentioned the loyalty bonus that Dmitri Payet got. Would

:15:25. > :15:28.you go on about loyalty in football? There are swings both ways. There is

:15:29. > :15:31.a case to say that is almost correct. Players have shown there is

:15:32. > :15:37.loyalty and John Terry is a great example.

:15:38. > :15:46.Skew and far between. It's funny, I always get undersized for staying at

:15:47. > :15:51.Newcastle, people say, you should have gone to Manchester United! --

:15:52. > :15:56.get criticised. Loyalty is a two-way thing. One club decided they no

:15:57. > :16:02.longer want a player, then the club sells. The truck try and get a

:16:03. > :16:07.player out. So loyalty is a two-way thing. Maybe it's different here

:16:08. > :16:12.because you didn't play that many clubs but if you were ever going to

:16:13. > :16:16.move to another club, would you have taken into account who you had paid

:16:17. > :16:21.for before, before deciding if you would move to another club? For

:16:22. > :16:26.example, your very good friend Steve Harper made that decision last

:16:27. > :16:30.season, to go and sit on the Sunderland bench, which given his

:16:31. > :16:34.record at Newcastle may seemed slightly odd. You've got to look at

:16:35. > :16:40.the options what options have you got as a player when a club say, we

:16:41. > :16:46.no longer want you, your contract is up or we have had a good offer, you

:16:47. > :16:49.say, OK, I will look at my options. I haven't got a problem with players

:16:50. > :16:56.wanting to leave a football club, it happens every month. You allowed to

:16:57. > :17:00.leave the club and the club was allowed to sell you but there is a

:17:01. > :17:04.way and means of doing it. Refusing to play or saying you will fake an

:17:05. > :17:10.injury, is not the correct way. It's not as if West Ham have said he has

:17:11. > :17:14.to stay, he signed a five-year contract, Dmitri Payet, doubled his

:17:15. > :17:19.money, they said you can go in the summer, he will be giving them 17,

:17:20. > :17:27.18 more games, that's all they are asking for. Does it make that much

:17:28. > :17:31.difference? It does to their season. It was a massive victory yesterday,

:17:32. > :17:40.but it has not been an easy campaign for them. He hasn't accepted and

:17:41. > :17:49.brilliant this season. But he's still there best player. If he was

:17:50. > :17:54.sold to Marseille in this transfer window, what would it mean for the

:17:55. > :18:00.fans? When you went to Chelsea, did you consider your from history? Of

:18:01. > :18:06.course, but I was also realistic. I had a fantastic time at Fulham, I

:18:07. > :18:10.gave them five years and at 40 years old I had an opportunity to be part

:18:11. > :18:18.of a club like Chelsea, as much as Fulham fans may not want to hear it,

:18:19. > :18:22.you can't compare the two. I'd never played Champions League football and

:18:23. > :18:27.I had an opportunity to try and fulfil that and Chelsea gave me

:18:28. > :18:30.that. It's like Alan says, about your career path, what option you

:18:31. > :18:36.have and what career path you want to take. Because it is a career for

:18:37. > :18:42.you, for us fans, it is irrational love but for you guys it's a career?

:18:43. > :18:45.Look at the options, with the club wants you, with you want to be

:18:46. > :18:52.there, I go back to my point, there is a correct way of doing it. Do you

:18:53. > :18:57.want to give a struct's opinion of appreciation for Andy Carroll

:18:58. > :19:07.yesterday? Outstanding, to get it on target, the technique, just sublime.

:19:08. > :19:12.It was a brilliant goal. Which is more likely to win goal of the

:19:13. > :19:19.month, that or Giroud? That is a horrible question. I don't really

:19:20. > :19:26.care, I love goals! That is such a rubbish answer! We have messages

:19:27. > :19:33.saying, sell Payet, move on, others are saying, he has got a bit big for

:19:34. > :19:43.his boots, when decent season, Andy is sick of overpaid players who

:19:44. > :19:46.don't get stuck in. Let's go to Goodison Park, the first of two

:19:47. > :19:53.games this afternoon, Everton against Manchester City. Hello,

:19:54. > :19:58.welcome to listen, if you are on the blue side of things, this is the

:19:59. > :20:03.only game that matters. Leon Osman scored one of the best goals of his

:20:04. > :20:08.career four years ago, Everton haven't beaten them since. It's

:20:09. > :20:14.going to be difficult, they scored five at West Ham last week and kept

:20:15. > :20:18.a clean sheet, they seem to be coming into a bit of form but

:20:19. > :20:24.Everton are on the back of a new study, the crowd should be fantastic

:20:25. > :20:27.today, they had a chance. What about that signing, Schneiderlin, what

:20:28. > :20:32.will he bring to the team? The manager knows him well, he knows

:20:33. > :20:35.what he's capable of, he knows exactly what to do to get the best

:20:36. > :20:40.out of him and Schneiderlin knows what the manager wants from his

:20:41. > :20:43.players so it should be a quick introduction, seamless introduction,

:20:44. > :20:49.he's a terrific player, a French international, think he will do well

:20:50. > :20:54.here. The manager was saying that everyone needs to open their eyes

:20:55. > :20:59.last week, was he right to say that? If it got him what he wanted, he was

:21:00. > :21:02.right, if he was after more signings, a manager needs to do what

:21:03. > :21:07.he can to get the players, that's the first signing, the second

:21:08. > :21:10.signing is hopefully coming afterwards, I don't think he's

:21:11. > :21:15.finished. What is the latest review, you itching to back into playing? I

:21:16. > :21:20.am enjoying not playing. It's different, your weekends are

:21:21. > :21:23.different, I am not running around on this pitch but I'm enjoying

:21:24. > :21:33.myself. Highlights will be on tonight. Let's get a good the team

:21:34. > :21:38.news. Morgan Schneiderlin is only on the bench and so is the other new

:21:39. > :21:44.signing, who cost ?11 million from Charlton. Everton make only one

:21:45. > :21:49.change from the cup defeat against Leicester which so angered Ronald

:21:50. > :21:53.Koeman am a the youngsters Holgate and Davis both stay in the team. Man

:21:54. > :21:58.City were more like themselves against West Ham in the cup, they

:21:59. > :22:00.have won four out of the last five in the Premier League and quite

:22:01. > :22:07.yellow goes with just a single change, in goal, Claudio Bravo

:22:08. > :22:16.returns in goal, Kevin de Bruyne is fit and John Stones is back at

:22:17. > :22:20.Goodison. What is important for John Stones this opportunity goes back to

:22:21. > :22:26.is old club, how does he deal with it? Not to get carried away with the

:22:27. > :22:32.emotion, not to do things that he wouldn't normally try. He hasn't had

:22:33. > :22:37.the best of seasons as yet. Still finding his way, I think, that club.

:22:38. > :22:42.I think he still learning what the manager wants from him. Not to get

:22:43. > :22:45.carried away, not to do anything stupid and put in a good

:22:46. > :22:50.performance, it'll be a tough afternoon for him. You think Ronald

:22:51. > :22:53.Koeman turning things round will be a slow process, he has kept a couple

:22:54. > :22:59.of kids in, Kabul and his new signings? He said himself it'll take

:23:00. > :23:05.some time to change the squad. He wants to bring in some new players,

:23:06. > :23:10.what they are able to accomplish with that type of squad is not at

:23:11. > :23:15.that level yet. Morgan Schneiderlin is the first of potentially many

:23:16. > :23:20.signings. Whether it is in January or in the summer, one or two more

:23:21. > :23:24.signings and then he will look to the summer to strengthen more. I

:23:25. > :23:31.think he wants to have his team in place by the end of the summer

:23:32. > :23:35.window. On Friday he said by the end of the summer window, the fans will

:23:36. > :23:40.have the team but I want. So he set a deadline to the club to get

:23:41. > :23:45.players in. He is an interesting character, he called out Steve Morse

:23:46. > :23:49.last week, which is a big thing to do, to mention your own recruitment

:23:50. > :23:54.guy, and there has been a reaction. It is possibly hurried to the

:23:55. > :23:59.Schneiderlin deal along. He has been looking to do this deal since he

:24:00. > :24:04.realised that Schneiderlin wasn't going to get a place in the Man

:24:05. > :24:10.United team. That is when he was getting frustrated about. I think

:24:11. > :24:15.the way they have to play today is direct, I saw them against Arsenal

:24:16. > :24:22.and they went direct, get the ball up, make it an ugly game, as hard as

:24:23. > :24:25.it will be because City were very impressive in the FA Cup against

:24:26. > :24:35.West Ham when they put five past them. But it'll be a tough afternoon

:24:36. > :24:43.if the crowd gets behind Everton. A quick cricket score, England made

:24:44. > :24:50.three June 50-7. India are 40-1. If you want to listen to that, it's on

:24:51. > :25:01.five live sports extra. At Old Trafford, you can hear this as well.

:25:02. > :25:06.Mark, Alan, we will have those thoughts shortly but first, we will

:25:07. > :25:10.hear from Paul Pogba. Do you feel more comfortable integrating into

:25:11. > :25:14.this new team with the new manager? The adaptation may be took a bit for

:25:15. > :25:22.the team, when you change players as well, you need some time. Now the

:25:23. > :25:26.team is going better and better, we all feel better than the start of

:25:27. > :25:33.the season. What is Jose Mourinho like the plague for? It is

:25:34. > :25:38.adaptation to him as well, and you club, now we know him better, how he

:25:39. > :25:52.plays and we understand him more. What is your relationship like with

:25:53. > :25:57.Zlatan? He's always a joker, on the pitch, he is a winner. He has big

:25:58. > :26:02.experience, a big character and he pushes you to your best always,

:26:03. > :26:10.gives you advice. Almost a father figure in a way? He wrote like it,

:26:11. > :26:20.but he's the oldest! -- won't like it. He's maybe the one with the most

:26:21. > :26:22.experience. When I say Manchester United against Liverpool at Old

:26:23. > :26:28.Trafford, does it send a shiver down your spine? The history, a big

:26:29. > :26:34.derby, more than Man City, I think, because of the way you feel, the

:26:35. > :26:41.atmosphere, you have no taste when you win three points against

:26:42. > :26:50.Liverpool. He wrote to be on Zlatan's Christmas card list! Lots

:26:51. > :26:56.of talk today about how Mourinho is trying to use Pogba in a Lampard

:26:57. > :27:00.style position. A bit further forward on the left of midfield. Did

:27:01. > :27:06.you see that and are you surprised it took him so long to work that

:27:07. > :27:11.out? I don't think it did, I just think he was trying to accommodate

:27:12. > :27:15.so many people, people were talking about Wayne Rooney come he's had a

:27:16. > :27:26.legend at the club, he tried to play with all of them at the start of the

:27:27. > :27:27.season and I don't think it worked particularly well. Now he has made

:27:28. > :27:32.the change he has been able to have Pogba in midfield in more of a role

:27:33. > :27:37.where he did so well at Juventus. Mourinho has got his swagger back,

:27:38. > :27:39.even on the touchline to me has the arrogance back about him, the

:27:40. > :27:46.winning mentality that was missing at the start of the season. It was

:27:47. > :27:52.figuring out the best way to play all those players. He has found that

:27:53. > :27:56.weight now, I thought they were static early on in the season, not

:27:57. > :28:03.so many runners going past Ibrahimovic, where he struggled to

:28:04. > :28:06.begin with, everyone is pulling in the same direction, he seems

:28:07. > :28:13.comfortable and happy and it seems a happier place now. For those

:28:14. > :28:17.listening, you had a little laugh. It was a great loaded question! I

:28:18. > :28:23.totally agree with you. What you are driving at is he should have played

:28:24. > :28:27.Pogba at this position at the start of the season. I was surprised how

:28:28. > :28:32.they lined up at the start of the season, I thought Carrick should

:28:33. > :28:37.have been in the team, the vegetarian thing is interesting, it

:28:38. > :28:39.has taken him a while to get into it, Mourinho will get credit now,

:28:40. > :28:45.maybe should have been in the team earlier. It has taken a while to

:28:46. > :28:54.come together. It could be a number of reasons why, the club had become

:28:55. > :28:57.moribund under van Gaal, I think Mourinho said it which was

:28:58. > :29:01.interesting was changing the mentality and some people were

:29:02. > :29:04.sceptical but I can understand what he meant, they were playing in such

:29:05. > :29:09.a way that it was affecting them so much, the pressure was too great on

:29:10. > :29:14.them, he needed to release them more and that has happened now with the

:29:15. > :29:17.players, the formation. The influence of Ibrahimovic can't be

:29:18. > :29:24.underestimated, this guy is not fazed by anything. He is not fazed

:29:25. > :29:26.by playing for Manchester United. He was out of contract after he left

:29:27. > :29:30.Paris St Germain, they thought physically, that was the end, his

:29:31. > :29:36.movement wasn't the greatest, he's come in and reenergised himself and

:29:37. > :29:40.he has reacted to being in the Premier League and thought, I am

:29:41. > :29:44.going to do this. I have been incredibly impressed by the way he

:29:45. > :29:52.has responded. Initial reaction, Scruton God, then he has struggled,

:29:53. > :29:56.and now he has gone again, use a player who has reacted briefly to

:29:57. > :30:00.being in the Premier League. Not only is his movement better, it is

:30:01. > :30:05.players going beyond him now which for a centre forward when you are

:30:06. > :30:08.there on your own, you need that is otherwise you're constantly fighting

:30:09. > :30:12.with two or three defenders all the time and if you have guys prepared

:30:13. > :30:22.to go beyond you, with his ability, he can handle his own against one.

:30:23. > :30:29.When you watch him at the moment, you could sort of see it with Pogba

:30:30. > :30:35.were joking about him and laughing about him but having huge respect

:30:36. > :30:39.for him as well. He may not have the arm on but he appears the talismanic

:30:40. > :30:45.leader of this United side at the moment. Very much so. He is leading

:30:46. > :30:53.from the front and has got better as the season has gone on. He has a

:30:54. > :30:59.swagger and presence. Wherever he is. He has stood up to criticism and

:31:00. > :31:06.reacted, like Jason was saying. He is getting better and better and

:31:07. > :31:09.becoming a main player for them. One final thing, Jose Mourinho's and is

:31:10. > :31:18.about getting the players to change them and talented. -- comments. When

:31:19. > :31:24.you had a change of manager, did it take time to stop doing certain

:31:25. > :31:28.things? Sometimes. A manager can come in and asked something

:31:29. > :31:31.different view. Sometimes you do not understand what the manager wants

:31:32. > :31:36.and is looking to you to do something different. It depends who

:31:37. > :31:41.it is and what is in this situation. Quite clearly, Mouinho did not know

:31:42. > :31:47.what his best options were. It has taken longer than we'd thought --

:31:48. > :31:53.Jose Mourinho. They are a team without doubt on the up. If they

:31:54. > :31:57.were to win today, two points behind Liverpool. That is a statement in

:31:58. > :32:06.itself will stop let's concentrate on Liverpool. Here is Jurgen Klopp.

:32:07. > :32:12.Give me 11 players and we will be competitive. That is the plan. They

:32:13. > :32:16.are not some players, they are my players. They already know a lot

:32:17. > :32:23.about each other. I know how they react. It makes us not weaker. It

:32:24. > :32:29.should make us stronger. Being ready for this. It is not about being

:32:30. > :32:33.confident before the game it is about getting confidence in the game

:32:34. > :32:37.with the right movements, the right kind of defending, the right kind of

:32:38. > :32:42.causing them problems. That is what we think about. For the last game it

:32:43. > :32:49.is not important. If it gives you a last percentage of greed, if you

:32:50. > :32:56.want, to fix something, welcome. Use it. He talks about being given 11

:32:57. > :33:02.players and he will get them to play football. Is the problem may be that

:33:03. > :33:06.he could do with having 20, 22 players? That Liverpool squad still

:33:07. > :33:10.might need strengthening, if you look how they suffer when they do

:33:11. > :33:18.not have Coutinho, Henderson or Mane. Liverpool need to bring in

:33:19. > :33:21.more quality. They have a good base of quality players. They just need

:33:22. > :33:25.to bring in more bodies of top quality. That has always been the

:33:26. > :33:30.big problem. What is interesting with Liverpool in particular, I have

:33:31. > :33:33.always doubted whether they could maintain that level of intensity for

:33:34. > :33:37.the course of the season in the Premier League. He did it in Germany

:33:38. > :33:41.because they have a winter break. That had a massive influence on

:33:42. > :33:46.being able to rest players. People reach highs, go away for ten days,

:33:47. > :33:51.do a mini pre-season and off they go again for the here they are

:33:52. > :33:55.overloaded through Christmas. It is almost impossible to play that

:33:56. > :33:59.intensity. He tried to give them a break in the New Year in the FA Cup.

:34:00. > :34:02.He brought in a lot of the youngsters and change around a lot

:34:03. > :34:07.of things for the game in the hope that going to Southampton, who would

:34:08. > :34:11.have a fresher team, but they looked so flat. They did not have any

:34:12. > :34:16.energy whatsoever. In the end they were lucky to get away with what

:34:17. > :34:23.they did. They will train at that intensity and training. The guys not

:34:24. > :34:27.playing every week will be doing the same sessions. At times you will be

:34:28. > :34:30.doing more because you are not playing at weekends. It does affect

:34:31. > :34:36.the whole team, especially when you're not playing week in and week

:34:37. > :34:40.out together as a unit. Over the FA Cup weekend, teams have made

:34:41. > :34:44.wholesale changes and struggle. They are missing key players. Matip at

:34:45. > :34:55.the back did not play. Henderson, we are definitely seeing the best of

:34:56. > :34:59.Henderson. I think Mane gives them whips. They do not have the width

:35:00. > :35:05.without him for that I think they are a bit too narrow. Daniel

:35:06. > :35:09.Sturridge was a disappointment. He did not look at it against them for

:35:10. > :35:15.the batter is a problem. Coutinho is coming back. That will make a

:35:16. > :35:21.difference. -- he did not look at it against them. I think he genuinely

:35:22. > :35:29.wants to work with younger players and bring them through. As fans, you

:35:30. > :35:33.want to see it. He sees the pressure to recruit and buy. He is also

:35:34. > :35:39.saying I want to develop players and bring them through. I applaud him

:35:40. > :35:43.for that. There are parallels with Pochettino at Tottenham with the way

:35:44. > :35:49.they play. He also wants to bring players through. He wants to get the

:35:50. > :35:53.balance right, also being competitive and ambitious and

:35:54. > :35:56.develop a team. That is one of the big things with his teens. The

:35:57. > :36:04.energy they have shown and the appetite and the way they go after

:36:05. > :36:12.teams. -- teams. He will be looking for a reaction today particularly

:36:13. > :36:21.after they were so poor in midweek. I think it will depend on whether

:36:22. > :36:25.Coutinho plays, if he does play. Will he not miss a stride because he

:36:26. > :36:32.has been out? If they do not play, missing Mane as well, Liverpool

:36:33. > :36:36.lacked a bit in the quality they do against Manchester United who are

:36:37. > :36:41.preparing for ten consecutive wins in all competitions. That will be

:36:42. > :36:49.the big question today. I think it will be a high-scoring draw. Don't

:36:50. > :36:55.curse it already. See you on Match of the Day later for a 0-0 draw.

:36:56. > :37:00.There are goals in both teams. Both defences do not give me great

:37:01. > :37:06.confidence. I'm hoping for goals. As long as it is better than the game

:37:07. > :37:11.at Anfield. Manchester United went there with a certain game plan. I do

:37:12. > :37:16.not think Liverpool will arrive with a game plan against Manchester

:37:17. > :37:18.United. Liverpool against Manchester City were slightly different. They

:37:19. > :37:22.were more controlled in the way they played for them if they can get back

:37:23. > :37:35.to that type of performance they could do well today.

:37:36. > :37:47.I imagine as never Tony and playing at home for Manchester United, it

:37:48. > :37:53.would be great to break the goal-scoring record. -- and

:37:54. > :37:59.Evertonians. It is a matter of time before Wayne Rooney gets this

:38:00. > :38:02.record. He has been one hell of a player, Wayne Rooney. For him, it

:38:03. > :38:09.would be fitting if he were to get it today against their biggest

:38:10. > :38:12.rivals. Let's move on. We will talk Spurs and another striker. Harry

:38:13. > :38:18.Kane hit a hat-trick for Tottenham as they beat West Brom 4-0. The

:38:19. > :38:24.little girl has been great. Not too bad. Quite a few misses, getting up

:38:25. > :38:31.at night, not letting me sleep. It has been a busy week, one I have

:38:32. > :38:34.enjoyed. I enjoyed today as well. You were buzzing from the start. It

:38:35. > :38:39.was important to get that early goal. We said that was at the last

:38:40. > :38:44.few times we played them, they scored first. They always hang in

:38:45. > :38:48.there and managed to make a draw. Going in there, flying, trying to

:38:49. > :38:55.finish the game. We did that with probably the best performance of the

:38:56. > :39:01.season. A great day. A good week for Harry Kane. What to do mumble to me

:39:02. > :39:08.during that? I said he is the real deal. -- what did you mumble to me?

:39:09. > :39:13.I me huge admirer of the way he does most things very well. The way he

:39:14. > :39:21.loves scoring goals. He will be around for a long time. There is a

:39:22. > :39:28.quote from Pochettino saying that Spurs can win the title. Why not?

:39:29. > :39:32.Last season was a massive blow for them. There was a lot of regret.

:39:33. > :39:37.Last weekend they played Chelsea. There was a sense of a bit of

:39:38. > :39:40.revenge in that result. I spoke to Dele Alli after result and he said

:39:41. > :39:48.it was kind of like getting one back on Chelsea, not just the rival

:39:49. > :39:53.Republicans Chelsea have a chance to win the title. -- the rivalry. They

:39:54. > :39:59.look more comfortable now. They are a bit under the radar. People have

:40:00. > :40:03.not really mentioned him a lot. It has been about the Manchester clubs,

:40:04. > :40:09.about Chelsea. It suited Tottenham really well. If they get their first

:40:10. > :40:15.11 out, and they can keep them fit... The 11 is the best 11 in the

:40:16. > :40:19.league. It is the best 11 and the Premier League. Vertonghen is out

:40:20. > :40:23.injured. That could potentially be a big blow for them. When out on the

:40:24. > :40:31.pitch, the 11 they played against Chelsea is the best 11. You

:40:32. > :40:40.mentioned Vertonghen. I spoke about it yesterday on the radio. When

:40:41. > :40:43.Alderweireld was out, they suffered earlier in the season. It was

:40:44. > :40:49.interesting yesterday they brought in Ben Davies to play in the three.

:40:50. > :40:54.That would be perfect. I think he would be ideal on the left side. And

:40:55. > :41:01.then it keeps the left foot on the left side. This is key to their

:41:02. > :41:08.success. Equally, the defensive side of things can he is as important to

:41:09. > :41:17.anyone in any team. I do not think Spurs have the depth. Janssen has

:41:18. > :41:25.struggled. They made a couple of substitutions. The relationship

:41:26. > :41:32.between Dele Alli and son change the game. It is a blow with the injury

:41:33. > :41:39.but I think Tottenham world challenge. Still time to send us a

:41:40. > :41:49.text. How has Harry Kane developed in the last to years? You can see he

:41:50. > :41:53.has an edge about him. He has a great relationship with Dele Alli.

:41:54. > :41:57.He knows what he will do. When I played with England, with Teddy

:41:58. > :42:03.Sheringham. We used to turn up every six, seven weeks. We hardly train

:42:04. > :42:08.together. I understood his game. We knew what each other would do. I see

:42:09. > :42:13.a similar relationship between Harry Kane and Dele Alli. The flick over

:42:14. > :42:17.for the setup yesterday, for one of his goals, was superb. The way he

:42:18. > :42:23.did it. The running and the timing. Everything. Did you used to watch

:42:24. > :42:30.what Sheringham was doing in his club games before you met up for

:42:31. > :42:33.international duty? I knew his game. That our partnerships and

:42:34. > :42:37.relationships where it just works. It just happens. With others, you

:42:38. > :42:42.have to train together and work together and do a lot of

:42:43. > :42:46.understanding of his game. With myself and Teddy, it clicked. From

:42:47. > :42:55.the day we met, I knew he could work for me and I could work for him.

:42:56. > :43:01.When he went sure I took -- short, taking a defender with him. Harry

:43:02. > :43:09.Kane is getting stronger and stronger. Absolutely. He has grown

:43:10. > :43:14.in confidence. He is the real deal. He is backing it up year after year.

:43:15. > :43:23.People think he will struggle. I think he was slow at the start of

:43:24. > :43:30.the season. That was at the back of the Euros. Now he is back to his

:43:31. > :43:37.best. I would not underestimate the influence of Pochettino. He has

:43:38. > :43:43.responded to everything they have asked him to do. I know you referred

:43:44. > :43:52.to Olivier Giroud and Andy Carroll's is as potential goals of the month.

:43:53. > :43:57.They were both against Crystal Palace and I am a Crystal Palace

:43:58. > :44:01.fan. We will see you for Match of the Day two later. We will show

:44:02. > :44:03.highlights of the high-scoring draw