:00:55. > :01:02.Coming Bridge for the first time as
:01:03. > :01:29.The Mail on Sunday suggests that Pep Manchester United manager. That's
:01:30. > :01:30.The Mail on Sunday suggests that Pep Guardiola will kick out City's stars
:01:31. > :01:53.and focus on the young players. The Sun is suggesting that Silva
:01:54. > :01:58.could be replaced by Cesc Fabregas. Let's focus first of all on the 4
:01:59. > :02:03.o'clock game, Chelsea versus Manchester United. Would you expect
:02:04. > :02:07.Manchester United, Peter Bardsley, to play at Chelsea like they've
:02:08. > :02:11.played at Liverpool? Absolutely. I think it was defensive and tactical
:02:12. > :02:17.masterclass from Mourinho at Anfield. A top class performance.
:02:18. > :02:21.Discipline from the wide men, Young and Rashford I was really pleased
:02:22. > :02:26.with. I think they'll take that into the Chelsea game today. Although,
:02:27. > :02:30.can Manchester United get at Chelsea better than they got at Liverpool?
:02:31. > :02:33.They could, but I think very much like Phil said they'll play pretty
:02:34. > :02:38.much the same way. They'll try to press them high, try to engage with
:02:39. > :02:43.them throughout the pitch and try to force a mistake from Chelsea and
:02:44. > :02:47.capitalise on it. At Liverpool Ibrahimovic had a great chance in
:02:48. > :02:51.the second half. To their credit they only limited Liverpool to two
:02:52. > :03:00.good chances in the game, which De Gea made two fantastic saves on.
:03:01. > :03:06.Ollie, Manchester United's game got criticism but united may have been
:03:07. > :03:10.blamed for it than Liverpool. Phil Neville said, I may be in the
:03:11. > :03:15.minority but I thought they were fantastic. This is a former player.
:03:16. > :03:20.We were horrible to play against just like Chelsea a decade ago, just
:03:21. > :03:24.like Mourinho will want them to be now. I've watched the game two or
:03:25. > :03:29.three times. If that header had gone in we would all be talking about a
:03:30. > :03:35.Mourinho masterclass. Yes, I have some sympathy for that view and for
:03:36. > :03:41.what Phil and Mark just said. I can appreciate the beauty of good
:03:42. > :03:44.defending and of destroying other teams' attacking intent. I think
:03:45. > :03:50.some of the blame for that game on Monday goes to Liverpool for not
:03:51. > :03:56.breaking them down. Mourinho went there to do a job and they did a
:03:57. > :04:03.job. Having said that, I sat down on my on my sofa for that game and
:04:04. > :04:07.appreciating the defensive excellence of Manchester United, I
:04:08. > :04:11.was bored out of my mind. In common I think with most of the people who
:04:12. > :04:18.were watching it. It was a very poor game. There one a lot of incidents.
:04:19. > :04:23.It because an excellent defensive performance. Maybe it's slightly
:04:24. > :04:27.naive of me to say I was bored, because I'm sure a lot of
:04:28. > :04:30.professionals can enjoy the excellence of the defence that was
:04:31. > :04:35.going on. But I think for the wider public there wasn't a lot of
:04:36. > :04:39.excitement in that game. But Jose Mourinho's responsibility is to do
:04:40. > :04:44.the best for Manchester United, not entertain Ollie on his sofa at home.
:04:45. > :04:48.Or is there a bit of both in football, is there a duty to
:04:49. > :04:55.entertain as well. No, I don't think so. The duty there is to game the
:04:56. > :05:00.best result for Manchester United. We are spoiled at the moment because
:05:01. > :05:03.Pep Guardiola at Manchester City is playing this total football sort of
:05:04. > :05:10.game. Spurs are playing entertaining football as well. All of a sudden,
:05:11. > :05:20.we want to play tactically good football. In England we haven't
:05:21. > :05:24.adapted to being tactically superior as the other countries on the
:05:25. > :05:31.Continent. We need to find a happy medium in this country. Is there a
:05:32. > :05:37.responsibility on Manchester United managers to play not a certain way,
:05:38. > :05:42.because I know Sir Alex Ferguson wasn't gung-ho. He played attacking
:05:43. > :05:47.football, but one of the things Phil Neville's piece said was first and
:05:48. > :05:52.foremost Manchester United were horrible to play against. But
:05:53. > :05:58.nevertheless we've come to expect from Manchester United a certain
:05:59. > :06:04.amount of adventure in their play which has been lacking. On a bigger
:06:05. > :06:10.picture, not just from a United point of view, do you feel a duty to
:06:11. > :06:15.entertain as a team? It is a results business. First and foremost you
:06:16. > :06:19.have to get points on the board. Going away at Anfield, it is not an
:06:20. > :06:24.easy place. Even though you are Manchester United, you are expected
:06:25. > :06:29.to take the game to teams and entertain us on the sofa. At the end
:06:30. > :06:34.Jose Mourinho is going there and getting a point on the board. But is
:06:35. > :06:38.there a pressure, Mark mentioned it, you look at what Klopp did,
:06:39. > :06:42.Guardiola and Pochettino, do you think there's a pressure within the
:06:43. > :06:45.game, within the Premier League from media in particular, maybe fans as
:06:46. > :06:52.well, for everybody to play a similar way, to play to try and play
:06:53. > :06:56.total football? Everybody has a different philosophy and means how
:06:57. > :06:59.they set up to play. If you look at throughout the league, different
:07:00. > :07:04.styles and different types of managers, you wouldn't say a Tony
:07:05. > :07:08.Pulis team would be like a Pep Guardiola team, but it gets results,
:07:09. > :07:13.these managers. They set their teams up different. Guardiola's fortunate
:07:14. > :07:20.he's got sole top players to be able to play in an expansive way. I think
:07:21. > :07:22.you play to your strengths. I think the teams are doing that. I think
:07:23. > :07:26.Manchester United's performance on Monday night was a very good
:07:27. > :07:32.performance, as away performances go. They had a couple of chances
:07:33. > :07:35.where if Ibrahimovic could have converted the header, which was
:07:36. > :07:39.unlucky, but all-round performance it was a good away performance. You
:07:40. > :07:43.don't want a league where every single team is trying to play out
:07:44. > :07:51.the back and trying to play total football. It would get boring in the
:07:52. > :07:58.end. We would all be sitting, here we go again, everything is
:07:59. > :08:03.cancelling each other out. That backlash has started a little bit, I
:08:04. > :08:08.think. Leicester showed how successful a bit more direct
:08:09. > :08:12.football can be. The backlash against the stats-directiven thing,
:08:13. > :08:17.we had 75% possession, but we lost the game. Possession doesn't, I'm
:08:18. > :08:21.agreeing with Mark really that it takes all sorts to make a decent
:08:22. > :08:25.league. Talking about Leicester, but they were playing to their
:08:26. > :08:30.strengths. Their strength was Vardy, one of the quickest players in the
:08:31. > :08:38.Premier League. Consequencive play in the high line. What she showed,
:08:39. > :08:42.Leicester, how clinical they were in possession, they were effective when
:08:43. > :08:46.they had it. You can have all the possession in the world, if you are
:08:47. > :08:56.not effective with that possession, you won't win games. Day 4 in
:08:57. > :09:04.cricket. Bangladesh 253-7. They need 33 more to win the test. Test Match
:09:05. > :09:10.Special is on air from 4.45. One question about Jose Mourinho.
:09:11. > :09:16.When there was a tactical plan to be enforced in a specific game, how
:09:17. > :09:21.much of the week leading up to that game does that tactical plan
:09:22. > :09:25.dominate training? A fair amount. I wouldn't say every session revolves
:09:26. > :09:31.around it but it is very much built around it. So you will do various
:09:32. > :09:35.tactical or drills in a training session that are aimed to play that
:09:36. > :09:39.way, to set up that way. But there've been times, I remember we
:09:40. > :09:43.went to Liverpool and we won at Liverpool where we supposedly parked
:09:44. > :09:47.two buses in front of the goal, which I disagree with. Yes,
:09:48. > :09:52.Liverpool had a lot of possession but not that many chances. We did it
:09:53. > :09:58.effectively. That was quite late, that information. We had problems
:09:59. > :10:01.with injuries, problems with the Champions League semifinal coming
:10:02. > :10:05.up, is he going to rest players, or is he not? There wasn't that
:10:06. > :10:11.information about who was playing or who was not, but as a squad you knew
:10:12. > :10:19.we would set up in a certain way and frustrate them from the off. From
:10:20. > :10:25.Facebook, if Ibrahimovic had finished that chance or Pogba passed
:10:26. > :10:29.better, it could have ended 1-0 and everyone would be praising Jo day.
:10:30. > :10:51.This He came away thinking, my tactics
:10:52. > :10:54.worked and, had Ibrahimovic scored that goal. I had a quiet
:10:55. > :10:59.conversation with Jose Mourinho and said, I thought you were going to do
:11:00. > :11:04.a Chelsea a couple of years back and he had a laugh with me. He knew what
:11:05. > :11:09.I meant. It almost worked. He's not happy with coming away with a point.
:11:10. > :11:13.He'll will with it and be satisfied with it but he'll want to win. As
:11:14. > :11:19.far as Chelsea are concerned, if they go 3, 4, 3, how they lined up
:11:20. > :11:22.against Hull, how will that cause Manchester United problems? How does
:11:23. > :11:27.that play to Chelsea's strengths? I'm not sure they did play with the
:11:28. > :11:31.3. We are unsure what system they'll go with, but if they do play with a
:11:32. > :11:38.3 I think the counterattack for Manchester United down the side with
:11:39. > :11:40.the pace of Young, Rashford, Ibrahimovic, but in terms of
:11:41. > :11:46.Chelsea, they are going to have a lot of possession in and around the
:11:47. > :11:51.pitch. We are seeing Hazard playing more central than what he is used to
:11:52. > :11:55.be playing. I think if United can stuff him out and fill them spaces
:11:56. > :12:00.with bodies like they did against Liverpool, I'm sure it will be a
:12:01. > :12:06.difficult afternoon for Chelsea. To me it's got, I hate to say it, it
:12:07. > :12:11.has draw written all over it. I'm not sure that Chelsea are good
:12:12. > :12:15.enough to break United down if United come with a similar set-up. I
:12:16. > :12:19.think we have to remember that Chelsea are coming from quite a long
:12:20. > :12:23.way back. There've been a lot of discussions again there week about,
:12:24. > :12:28.you know, the new managers in the Premier League, in terms of being in
:12:29. > :12:31.charge of new clubs, so Mourinho, Guardiola, Conte. I think continue
:12:32. > :12:36.ownership has got the most difficult job of all of those in that Chelsea
:12:37. > :12:43.finished mid table last season. A lot of their players did fire at one
:12:44. > :12:48.point under Mourinho like Hazard in particular, just haven't quite got
:12:49. > :12:51.back to that level they were at. I think United have a better chance of
:12:52. > :12:58.beating Chelsea than of beating Liverpool, put it that way. Do you
:12:59. > :13:02.sense Conte in starting, and we'll talk about what Pep Guardiola is
:13:03. > :13:07.seeing in Manchester City's youth set-up, do you think Conte will be
:13:08. > :13:17.the manager to bring Chelsea kids through? Loftus Cheek has been
:13:18. > :13:20.involved as well. I think there is definitely that mandate to bring
:13:21. > :13:24.more players through. They've got a lot of good players in the Academy.
:13:25. > :13:30.A lot of good players out on loan as well. We talk about finding the
:13:31. > :13:34.balance. That's on the pitch, off the pitch. It is the key to
:13:35. > :13:40.everything. Everything in life is finding balance. I think he will,
:13:41. > :13:46.there'll be that demand of success, because Chelsea won't want another
:13:47. > :13:50.season like last season. Part of Conte's challenge is helping players
:13:51. > :13:54.rediscover their form, giving them the confidence back after such a bad
:13:55. > :14:01.season last season. They'll look at youth as well. Does three at the
:14:02. > :14:05.back work for you? I spoke to players earlier in the season and
:14:06. > :14:10.Conte said, I don't want to play three at the back. I like to play
:14:11. > :14:18.four. He wants to continue with the four. I think today he will keep the
:14:19. > :14:22.four. Ibrahimovic hasn't got the pace to get in behind Chelsea. I
:14:23. > :14:30.think they'll be more than happy to play with four again. Not banging on
:14:31. > :14:34.about the three, but Azpilicueta has been part of the three, sit easy for
:14:35. > :14:41.a full-back to switch and be part of a three?
:14:42. > :14:51.I've played in a 5-3-2 in the Johnstone's Paint cup and we got
:14:52. > :14:55.beaten. The bizarre thing I find about Azpilicueta is that he's been
:14:56. > :15:01.playing left by the majority of his time at Chelsea and now right side
:15:02. > :15:05.centre-back. I don't understand why he doesn't play left-sided
:15:06. > :15:08.centre-back, he's been playing left side. Maybe it's a balanced thing, I
:15:09. > :15:14.know he's right footed but found himself on the left side. You get
:15:15. > :15:23.the extra man, a bit more protection for the centre-half, the two centre
:15:24. > :15:30.halves but do I prefer it? I prefer four if I was playing, I would
:15:31. > :15:36.prefer to play and back four than 83. As Monty Man City, the 130 game,
:15:37. > :15:43.Manchester City against Southampton. Before I come onto your column this
:15:44. > :15:46.morning, Ollie, why is the defeat against Barcelona, why have they
:15:47. > :15:55.been so many newspaper stories about players unhappy in Guardiola's squad
:15:56. > :16:02.or Guardiola unhappy with players? Do you know? The honest answer is
:16:03. > :16:05.that I don't know does it seem odd to you? I Donnal know how the
:16:06. > :16:08.information is coming from but it doesn't seem particularly odd
:16:09. > :16:13.because when a club goes on a bad run these kind of stories start to
:16:14. > :16:17.seek out but the other reason it doesn't seem odd is that some of the
:16:18. > :16:20.issues we're talking about players who are getting older. Vincent
:16:21. > :16:24.Kompany has been a magnificent player but struggling a lot with
:16:25. > :16:27.injury recently, not a great surprise to me that people are
:16:28. > :16:32.talking about maybe him being moved on, that's just the way of the
:16:33. > :16:35.world, it happens to the best players and Vincent Kompany has
:16:36. > :16:39.struggled a lot with injuries, getting older, been a fantastic
:16:40. > :16:44.player. I don't think there's anything necessarily sinister in it
:16:45. > :16:49.but I think Guardiola has a history of not being a great respecter of
:16:50. > :16:53.reputation. There's an element of that probably involved in the
:16:54. > :16:59.stories as well. We saw it with Joe Hart. I think you can only live or
:17:00. > :17:04.play each week for so long on reputation alone, you have to
:17:05. > :17:07.deliver and in Vincent Kompany's case he's been extremely unfortunate
:17:08. > :17:11.with injuries and he's obviously doing everything he possibly can to
:17:12. > :17:15.get back fit but each time he breaks down so there comes a point where
:17:16. > :17:20.the club has to make a decision. He is fit and he starts this afternoon.
:17:21. > :17:24.The headline 19 news is Manchester City's Aguero on the bench in
:17:25. > :17:28.Barcelona and Kompany not even on the bench but both start against
:17:29. > :17:31.Southampton. Otamendi makes way for the captain. The visitors have
:17:32. > :17:41.injury problems at full-back, so a full debut to Sam McQueen, he's on
:17:42. > :17:45.the left Martina is on the left. Olly, your column this morning in
:17:46. > :17:50.the Mail on Sunday with the headline, I'd rather watch one of
:17:51. > :17:56.Pep's failures than 1000 of the empty wins by safety first flat
:17:57. > :18:03.liners. As be discussing, beauty is in that eye of the beholder. There
:18:04. > :18:07.are many different ways you can appreciate excellence in football
:18:08. > :18:12.and I'm not saying that I don't appreciate the excellence some
:18:13. > :18:17.defensive performances but personally I would rather watch,
:18:18. > :18:23.rather route for the kind of success that Guardiola is trying to achieve
:18:24. > :18:28.than the kind of pragmatic approach favoured by Jose Mourinho, that's
:18:29. > :18:36.just my personal feeling, that's my Creed election. I enjoy watching the
:18:37. > :18:39.passing football that Guardiola promotes and I'm also intrigued,
:18:40. > :18:43.Mark and I were talking about it earlier, I'm intrigued by what he's
:18:44. > :18:48.trying to do. I think we're getting slightly obsessed with Claudio Bravo
:18:49. > :18:52.and intrigued by the way that he's trying to promote the passing game
:18:53. > :18:57.out from back which I think, as a football nation, we are very
:18:58. > :19:01.suspicious about mainly because our technique, I think, lets us down
:19:02. > :19:04.when we try to do it. Is it technique that lets players down
:19:05. > :19:08.when they do this? The argument from a fan's point of view, these are all
:19:09. > :19:12.Premier League players, so if you are being coached to pass out on the
:19:13. > :19:18.back if your manager wants you to do that, you should be able to do that?
:19:19. > :19:21.Absolutely. Mark, being a goalkeeper you have to feel confident in the
:19:22. > :19:24.players around you, the centre-backs, the angles that you
:19:25. > :19:28.may, has to be somebody coming to the ball, the spare man coming to
:19:29. > :19:36.receive the ball, deep lying midfielder always there. Everybody
:19:37. > :19:39.has to take part, that's the thing. If the centre-backs don't get quite
:19:40. > :19:43.enough it doesn't create enough space. When we talk about passing
:19:44. > :19:47.out from the back, it is about being coached to make sure people are in
:19:48. > :19:49.the right positions rather than an ability to do it. If you are offered
:19:50. > :19:56.football player you should be able to pass the ball 15 yards. You
:19:57. > :20:00.should be able to but without tarring everybody with the same
:20:01. > :20:02.brush we get quite nervous under pressure, English players, our
:20:03. > :20:07.technique, if you look at the national team, our technique does
:20:08. > :20:15.not hold up under pressure. The English game is 100 miles an hour
:20:16. > :20:18.and the philosophy Pep has brought in, Pochettino, the calmness and
:20:19. > :20:23.they've brought on a different way they play stems from the goalkeeper.
:20:24. > :20:27.They go back to the keeper, rather than shelling it up the pitch he
:20:28. > :20:30.puts his foot on the ball, relax and you see the centre-backs get wide
:20:31. > :20:34.and the full-backs get high and it gives them a chance to play out. For
:20:35. > :20:38.any player, you need to have the confidence with your team-mates that
:20:39. > :20:42.if I get the ball under pressure, I know I'm going to have two or three
:20:43. > :20:48.options to pass the ball, if you don't have that know how more
:20:49. > :20:52.reluctant to take the you want off the ball for that reason. England is
:20:53. > :20:56.in a great situation, you got arguably the best centre-back that
:20:57. > :20:59.can play with the ball at his feet in John Stones, the danger is at
:21:00. > :21:03.City he's overplaying out of the back so to speak because of the way
:21:04. > :21:07.they want to play and with England, how far does he go with it? Other
:21:08. > :21:11.players around him are not used to playing that every week and feel a
:21:12. > :21:14.little bit uneasy and a full team is not setup and willing to make
:21:15. > :21:19.themselves available all the time. That becomes the key to it because
:21:20. > :21:23.if he tries to do it for England, which is what he's doing for City
:21:24. > :21:30.and it goes wrong, we in the media and fans would hammer him whereas
:21:31. > :21:34.arguably... That's what he's used to. That's a fear for the players,
:21:35. > :21:38.that's where I think, I got the ball everybody looks at me because I've
:21:39. > :21:41.played the bad Bob but actually I've not been helped out and nobody is
:21:42. > :21:45.going to take, sorry that was my mistake I should have held it out,
:21:46. > :21:49.they might say it afterwards but I am the focus point and I've made a
:21:50. > :21:53.big mistake and everybody jumped on that, so there is that little fear.
:21:54. > :21:59.I think the noise in this country, we are very sceptical about playing
:22:00. > :22:03.the ball. We pay lip service to it, the idea of playing the ball out and
:22:04. > :22:07.playing neat football but as soon as it goes wrong, there's one mistake,
:22:08. > :22:12.we leapt on it and say that's the problem and it's not just Claudio
:22:13. > :22:18.Bravo, it's John Stones. He's been hammered for trying to play the ball
:22:19. > :22:24.out. If there's a mistake. It's in our DNA, the get rid of it thing.
:22:25. > :22:27.It's in our game. There's a time and place, John Stones will continue to
:22:28. > :22:33.go and get the ball because that's the type of players he is. He shy
:22:34. > :22:40.away from it. You'd want him to because he's such a good player.
:22:41. > :22:44.That's what I want to watch. Touching on Ingram, I think we have
:22:45. > :22:48.the players to do that,. It has to be coached all the way through,
:22:49. > :22:53.everybody has to be willing to make those moves. Ray parlour when he
:22:54. > :22:55.first came to Middlesbrough and the experience of being on the other
:22:56. > :22:58.side of the fence from being at Arsenal were you on the ball and
:22:59. > :23:01.have three options every time you have the ball to Middlesbrough at
:23:02. > :23:05.the time for if you don't see the first option within half a second
:23:06. > :23:08.you've only got one life and if you don't do it within a quarter of a
:23:09. > :23:12.second it's gone and you're off the ball. There is that cultural thing
:23:13. > :23:18.and the players you have around you that you need to have to be able to
:23:19. > :23:23.play the system. Is a very big subject, I feel that we got the
:23:24. > :23:29.players to do that with England, I feel that but every time it gets
:23:30. > :23:32.important we mess it up. How do you explain that disconnect between we
:23:33. > :23:36.have got excellent players, players with great technique but when it
:23:37. > :23:40.comes to the crunch. Finding the best system and the best players at
:23:41. > :23:45.his disposal. He's got the players they are to play the system and play
:23:46. > :23:51.nice football. We want to see that. I have to laugh at people moaning
:23:52. > :23:54.about Pep is overrated, probably the best manager out there, you can
:23:55. > :23:58.complain about the start he's had, people talking about the winless
:23:59. > :24:04.run, it includes going to Spurs, Barcelona and Everton at home who
:24:05. > :24:06.are no pushovers. Then Hewitt on Facebook says his weakness is that
:24:07. > :24:10.he would learn from his mistakes, not to be arrogant about the English
:24:11. > :24:15.leagues because the Spanish league is miles ahead but in England it is
:24:16. > :24:21.far more physical. On Saturday, you talk about the different options,
:24:22. > :24:23.Southampton, not that it matters what I think, they are one of my
:24:24. > :24:27.favourite teams to watch this season, some of the football they
:24:28. > :24:33.play is great because we always have an option, the full-backs, but when
:24:34. > :24:36.Oriol Romeu gets it, with Tadic and Charlie Austin they play good
:24:37. > :24:41.football. How does it get to that place in the first place, the
:24:42. > :24:45.midfield, they are a team that do 50-50, they play long out of the
:24:46. > :24:50.back at times because Jose is comfortable on the ball and Virgil
:24:51. > :24:54.van Dijk and they have the option is to do that. They have found a happy
:24:55. > :24:57.medium and got the players in midfield and upfront that are more
:24:58. > :25:01.than capable of taking the ball and making runs forward. I like the way
:25:02. > :25:07.Southampton as a football club is run, was giving young players a
:25:08. > :25:11.chance, was somebody young and new. Sam McQueen today. Debut for the lad
:25:12. > :25:15.today and I like the style of play and the way they are and as Mark
:25:16. > :25:18.said they can mix it up and play nice expansive football or get it
:25:19. > :25:22.forward down the channel to Redmond and Austin and it causes problems.
:25:23. > :25:30.Do you think they'll cause City problems? Setup for a 0-0. Really
:25:31. > :25:36.selling Match of the Day! Should be a terrific game. It's a big game for
:25:37. > :25:41.City now because of the run they've been on and the beating they took in
:25:42. > :25:45.Barcelona, they're under a little bit of pressure. But I think they're
:25:46. > :25:48.good enough to come out and even though Southampton are a good side,
:25:49. > :25:52.it should be a good game and I think will run. Do you think Oriol Romeu
:25:53. > :25:59.has given them a bit more passing ability than one yammer? There's a
:26:00. > :26:04.balance to the game, the com comment each other -- Victor Wanyama. When
:26:05. > :26:09.he was there he won a more, more physical no Oriol Romeu is the one
:26:10. > :26:13.that will create a lot more, he will stick the boot and every now and
:26:14. > :26:17.then but not that type of player but looking more at more playmaking side
:26:18. > :26:19.rather than a grafter and getting the ball and winning the ball and
:26:20. > :26:27.passing it short and let somebody else do it. Stoke and their win at
:26:28. > :26:34.hole, how was your overlap in Shaqiri's goal yesterday? Magical.
:26:35. > :26:40.Do you get an assist? He didn't thank me for it, I will say that it
:26:41. > :26:45.on Monday morning. As away performances go it was top-class. We
:26:46. > :26:50.knew it would be a difficult game coming off the back of a 6-1 defeat
:26:51. > :26:54.at Bournemouth, so we knew they would come out of the blocks firing.
:26:55. > :26:58.They gave us a lot of time and space on the ball in the early periods of
:26:59. > :27:02.the game and we knew it was only a matter of time before we broke the
:27:03. > :27:07.deadlock and magic from the little man there. Put as one of which could
:27:08. > :27:16.have been three before half-time. His second goal, his free kick puts
:27:17. > :27:19.the game to bed. 2-0 away win and a clean sheet, doesn't get much
:27:20. > :27:24.better. In front of the cameras during the bad start, Mark Hughes
:27:25. > :27:27.always appeared very calm and seemed in some ways reassuring the Stoke
:27:28. > :27:30.fans that everything would be all right, it was a bit similar to last
:27:31. > :27:34.season, not a great start and everything will come good. Was it
:27:35. > :27:38.the same behind-the-scenes? Absolutely, he was calm, we knew we
:27:39. > :27:43.weren't 1 million miles away, played really well at Everton, lost 1-0,
:27:44. > :27:47.the penalty I gave away. I don't think we were ever 1 million miles
:27:48. > :27:52.away, we had some difficult fixtures early on in the season but we knew
:27:53. > :27:55.that when that wasn't far away and to get the first win on the board
:27:56. > :28:01.last week against Sunderland was vital and to kick on from that
:28:02. > :28:06.yesterday to get another three points on the board was fantastic.
:28:07. > :28:12.One of the other reasons it would appear is Joe Allen may be being
:28:13. > :28:16.played a little bit further forward? Can you tell us how he has settled
:28:17. > :28:21.on? I've played against him for a number of years and I'll was knew he
:28:22. > :28:26.was a decent player but now I have the chance of playing with him, he's
:28:27. > :28:31.exceptional. Very intelligent football player, gets in some great
:28:32. > :28:34.positions, breaks the lines and does the defensive side of the game as
:28:35. > :28:38.well. I know he's known for his defensive role in previous clubs,
:28:39. > :28:43.but he's been playing in the number ten role for us but he gives us that
:28:44. > :28:46.extra bit of protection when we haven't got the ball and he's been
:28:47. > :28:54.outstanding for us and a great signing. Tool bars, Mark Schwarzer
:28:55. > :28:58.and Ollie Holt with us on MOTD 2 Extra. Sunderland still without a
:28:59. > :29:02.win after the injury time defeat, here's David Moyes.
:29:03. > :29:07.David, straight to it, maybe a bit of a contentious decision about the
:29:08. > :29:11.league goal, what was your stay Gonnet? Offside, do you want me to
:29:12. > :29:16.say anything else? The boy lives his foot in front of the goalkeeper,
:29:17. > :29:22.should be given offside. Have you spoken to the officiating team about
:29:23. > :29:27.it? They think it's onside. You disagree with that? That's what I
:29:28. > :29:30.said to you. Is it to do with the interpretation of the rule? You can
:29:31. > :29:34.tell by the referee's decision to walk towards the linesman he's not
:29:35. > :29:38.sure and I think they've got something on the mind that they're
:29:39. > :29:41.not sure on that wasn't a goal. Some goals like that are disallowed and
:29:42. > :29:48.today this one stood. That's right, that's what happens in football.
:29:49. > :29:58.That's one of those we are views where you want to hind behind the
:29:59. > :30:04.cushion. One of those interviews. Last year when they were struggling
:30:05. > :30:08.before they got Big Sam in, there is something drastically wrong behind
:30:09. > :30:13.the scenes, up above, whether the owner wants out or what, something
:30:14. > :30:17.needs to be done. I feel David Moyes was a good choice of manager with
:30:18. > :30:20.the experience he's got in the Premier League, but it hasn't
:30:21. > :30:25.happened for them. We played them last week but the game was flat. We
:30:26. > :30:30.took the game away from them in the first half. A very flat performance
:30:31. > :30:36.from them. I'm sure their fans will be disappointed with what they are
:30:37. > :30:40.seeing. And their fans at Stoke, the away fans were great. But flat is
:30:41. > :30:45.probably a good word to describe everything around Sunderland. At the
:30:46. > :30:49.moment they look like they are just trying to get a result. It is really
:30:50. > :30:53.tough when you are down at that end of the table. It is only nine games
:30:54. > :31:00.into the season and they are looking like it is already... They are five
:31:01. > :31:03.adrift already. They are looking like, their whole body language,
:31:04. > :31:08.like there's five game to go. What is wrong there? Why is everyone so
:31:09. > :31:12.flat in I think also the key, what was interesting was after the second
:31:13. > :31:16.game of the season, the Derby loss at home to Middlesbrough, David
:31:17. > :31:21.Moyes coming out and saying, we are in a relegation battle. Two games
:31:22. > :31:26.in, that's some statement to make. It matters to the players
:31:27. > :31:31.confidence-wise. If you were there as a player... His body language
:31:32. > :31:35.isn't good. He looks like a goo who is thinking, what the hell have I
:31:36. > :31:40.got myself into here. If that starts to communicate itself to the players
:31:41. > :31:45.pretty quickly... They see it as a challenge. He spent some money. He's
:31:46. > :31:50.brought his own players in. Six or seven of his own players, you can't
:31:51. > :31:54.say he hasn't had the funds to bring the players that he wanted into the
:31:55. > :31:59.squad. I know they've got a few injuries. Cattermole is a driving
:32:00. > :32:03.force behind the team. He's a big loss for them. But at the end of the
:32:04. > :32:08.day when players are injured, and it happens, it's football, somebody
:32:09. > :32:13.else has to step up to the plate. At the minute it doesn't look like many
:32:14. > :32:18.of them are doing that. Would you be sat in a dressing room and hearing
:32:19. > :32:21.him say, we are in a relegation ballot, if you were a player, would
:32:22. > :32:26.you think, really? I would be concerned. Later in my career I
:32:27. > :32:30.would have gone into the manager and said, come on, we need to sort this
:32:31. > :32:33.out. We can't after two games be thinking already we're in a
:32:34. > :32:39.relegation battle. It is unheard of I think to think that so soon in the
:32:40. > :32:44.season. Are you giving yourself excuses already? He's trying to
:32:45. > :32:49.lower expectations. There's been a lot of hype about him being
:32:50. > :32:53.appointed as manager off the bat of Sam Allardyce having a successful
:32:54. > :32:59.period of time. On the left, on the up. Reinvigorating players you never
:33:00. > :33:04.thought were going to perform at that level again. Jermain Defoe came
:33:05. > :33:09.out again last week... So they've gone backwards? Apparently it was on
:33:10. > :33:14.their own website, so it is difficult to put blame to anyone
:33:15. > :33:21.else or say it was misinterpreted or Moyles quoted. It was an interesting
:33:22. > :33:25.statement which shows you there is something wrong. Sam Allardyce isn't
:33:26. > :33:31.looming in the background here, is he? He may be. I think the longer,
:33:32. > :33:35.again a different subject, but the longer the aftermath of his England
:33:36. > :33:40.demise goes on, the more you ask exactly what it was he was sacked
:33:41. > :33:44.for, to be honest. I think he was sacked because none of it looked
:33:45. > :33:49.very good, but if you get into the nuts and bolts of it, I'm not sure
:33:50. > :33:54.he did anything wrong. I think his slate is kind of clean in terms of a
:33:55. > :33:58.return to club management. I don't think he is in disgrace. I think
:33:59. > :34:09.there's nothing stopping him. I think we've also got to remember,
:34:10. > :34:13.going back to what Phil said, there is something deeper that's wrong
:34:14. > :34:19.with David Moyes there. He wasn't happy with what was happening in the
:34:20. > :34:24.closed season anyway. I'm not sure the problem is entirely the manager,
:34:25. > :34:27.but stranger things have happened. We mentioned bringing in other
:34:28. > :34:33.players, players have come in. Somebody from Sunderland said to me
:34:34. > :34:38.last week, Phil, rather than they brought it back to wages rather than
:34:39. > :34:43.fees, rather than bring in two players on ?25,000 or ?35,000 a
:34:44. > :34:50.week, they might be better off bringing in one player who would
:34:51. > :34:53.demand ?55,000 or ?60,000 a week I don't know how the wage structure
:34:54. > :34:59.works there or what they are willing to give the manager. It's a
:35:00. > :35:04.difficult one. He's brought a couple of young lads in, McNair and Love
:35:05. > :35:07.from Manchester United. When you are in the position they are in, at the
:35:08. > :35:13.bottom be, you have to have players that can go in and play straight
:35:14. > :35:18.away at the level that's required. I'm not sure, obviously long term he
:35:19. > :35:23.was thinking these players are good for the long-term, but these players
:35:24. > :35:27.need to be now. They need to be experienced players coming now and
:35:28. > :35:33.help them get out of the situation they are in. Michael says I feel for
:35:34. > :35:39.David Moyes. One day he'll take the team to the time. This one says he
:35:40. > :35:44.thought he could turn Sunderland back quickly but the problems run
:35:45. > :35:49.deeper. #bbcfootball or 85058. The yesterday Burnley beat Everton 2-1.
:35:50. > :35:53.This is a nice interview, Scott Arfield with the winner.
:35:54. > :35:59.Scott, you've had a few minutes to come down. How do you make sense of
:36:00. > :36:05.that? What a dramatic finish. It was, Johann comes into the
:36:06. > :36:11.right-hand side with his foot. It found the corner. It came at you
:36:12. > :36:17.quite quickly. Yeah, it did. You work on that in the training pitch.
:36:18. > :36:21.The 90th minute there's a wee boy inside you that wishes that was it,
:36:22. > :36:25.but in front of 20,000, it is more important. I will tell you why
:36:26. > :36:31.that's nice, fans can be cynical about how much footballers care, but
:36:32. > :36:38.he he says in his head and heart he's a wee lad, that makes football
:36:39. > :36:42.fans smile. It was a terrific little interview that, and a fantastic
:36:43. > :36:45.finish. Wasn't an easy finish. He reacted very well. I think when a
:36:46. > :36:49.lot of people stood there and watched it, he was the first to
:36:50. > :36:55.react. Came in quickly. Technically it was a great finish. They are
:36:56. > :37:05.still quite settled Burnley, the team from a couple of years ago,
:37:06. > :37:09.he's added a bit, Sean Dyche, but nothing that's destabilised them...
:37:10. > :37:14.That typifies what Burnley are about. The spirit among the players.
:37:15. > :37:20.They are heading where it hurts, tackle. Do the hard stuff. Do the
:37:21. > :37:24.hard yards. The spirit they've got in that camp there, a great win
:37:25. > :37:30.yesterday. There seems to be a calmness about that club. Club. In
:37:31. > :37:35.the same way we talk about Stoke and they've been a model, we have to
:37:36. > :37:38.call it a crisis now in the modern game, five or sakes games,
:37:39. > :37:42.struggling. The way Stoke dealt with it and are coming out of it, that's
:37:43. > :37:46.a model how to deal with something like that. And the way Burnley dealt
:37:47. > :37:50.with relegation, promotion, they've stayed steady. They've got a very
:37:51. > :37:56.good manager, a great crop of players. They are a club to admire I
:37:57. > :37:59.think. Think.. They do look a good crop of players. They do. They've
:38:00. > :38:04.got a real connection with the community. You go to that ground and
:38:05. > :38:09.it is like you are coming up against a very motivated Burnley side and a
:38:10. > :38:13.very motivated delude are fully behind their side regardless of the
:38:14. > :38:19.result. They know that every single player will give their all. The
:38:20. > :38:24.other thing that was key, we touched on this last night, the importance
:38:25. > :38:26.of Tom Heaton. He is their leader, their captain. His second season
:38:27. > :38:31.this the Premier League and he's done very well this season. He was
:38:32. > :38:36.very busy yesterday in the game. I think they are all good saves.
:38:37. > :38:40.Nothing outstanding, but he was calm and reassuring. Last week's save
:38:41. > :38:46.against Southampton, a world class save. They were unlucky last week.
:38:47. > :38:51.They didn't get the penalty, which would have changed the game. He's
:38:52. > :38:54.the key, but it worries me if they rely so heavily on the likes of him
:38:55. > :38:59.to perform every week over the course of a season. That's the
:39:00. > :39:05.biggest challenge. If I flip that as a positive, Sean Dyche last night on
:39:06. > :39:12.Match Of The Day says how he is seen as a 4, 4, 2 man but he doesn't buy
:39:13. > :39:18.into formations. He does, and he hasn't got Andre Grey at the moment,
:39:19. > :39:22.but when he is back he has Vokes and Grey. He is of the belief that two
:39:23. > :39:26.strikers will cause more problems than one. But that seems in this day
:39:27. > :39:30.and age not a popular point of view. A lot of teams are trying to
:39:31. > :39:35.accommodate players. These nice, technically good players. They are
:39:36. > :39:38.trying to accommodate them and forming these systems that allow
:39:39. > :39:42.these players of the freedom of movement. Sean Dyche says he isn't
:39:43. > :39:47.too worried about the system itself, per se. He wants two guys up front.
:39:48. > :39:50.But every player works hard. They lose the ball and they are
:39:51. > :39:54.backtracking and doing their work. Taking part in the defensive
:39:55. > :39:57.responsibilities. Responsibilities. Other teams with players more
:39:58. > :40:01.technically gifted, it is like it is not part of their responsibility. I
:40:02. > :40:08.understand where he is coming from and it's a nice approach to see.
:40:09. > :40:14.Yeah, old school 4, 4, 2, you can't go wrong. But centre halves would
:40:15. > :40:22.have more problems with Vokes and Grey rather than Vokes on his own?
:40:23. > :40:27.Yes, the Number Ten, it becomes the midfielder's problem. If I was the
:40:28. > :40:34.manager I would like to try 4, 4, out, to give it a whirl. Obviously
:40:35. > :40:43.Sean Dyche still believes in it. I think when Grey comes back they'll
:40:44. > :40:48.go with two again. It will be nice. Some time ago the orthodoxy seems to
:40:49. > :40:56.be 4, 4, 2 you risk getting over midfield. It was almost like a fear
:40:57. > :41:03.of being in midfield. If you got one or two who can do the defensive
:41:04. > :41:12.work, it becomes a 4, 5, 1 anyway. Last night, we talk about Leicester
:41:13. > :41:16.as aga example, playing in a 4, 4, system but Okosak iPlayer was
:41:17. > :41:23.deeper. He was given the cover, doing the work you could expect your
:41:24. > :41:31.to do. I can remember Alan Hanson saying to me that Liverpool played
:41:32. > :41:36.4, 4, 2. They didn't. Whether it was Beardsley or Dalglish, they would
:41:37. > :41:41.drop to help. It wasn't 4, 4, 2, with those two right up there. Kenny
:41:42. > :41:46.in particular, he was no way a conventional centre forward. Kenny
:41:47. > :41:55.was more of a Number Ten, a sublime player. Absolutely, he would drop
:41:56. > :42:00.in. Again the team ethic that that, the Dalglish-Rush partnership.
:42:01. > :42:05.Dalglish was drop deeper than Rush, object. They were as good a
:42:06. > :42:09.partnership as you would say. Liverpool beat West Brom yesterday.
:42:10. > :42:13.Didn't quite go top on the account. Arsenal are top on goal difference.
:42:14. > :42:20.Liverpool, are they title contenders for you They are. The only thing...
:42:21. > :42:23.I sense there is a but coming. I've seen a couple of times with
:42:24. > :42:29.Liverpool this season, they get into a great position. They dominate
:42:30. > :42:35.teams. Yesterday when it was 2-0 you thought they were going to win 3 or
:42:36. > :42:39.4-0 but they took their foot off the gas a little bit. West Brom made an
:42:40. > :42:43.important substitution. Later on in the game, too late, when Morrison
:42:44. > :42:48.came on. He changed the game for them and Liverpool dropped off a
:42:49. > :42:51.bit. All of a sudden it is the set plays. West Brom have got the best
:42:52. > :42:54.record of scoring from set plays and five from corners I think. So it is
:42:55. > :42:58.no surprise they scored against Liverpool from a corner. That's the
:42:59. > :43:05.concern I have with Liverpool at the moment. They still haven't got it
:43:06. > :43:14.down to perfection. I'm not so sure the keeper looked vulnerable to me
:43:15. > :43:17.from crosses. Defensively they don't look that solid, attacking-wise,
:43:18. > :43:22.Coutinho, Sturridge. For me these players can win you games but you
:43:23. > :43:27.still have to have a defensive unit. To call them title contenders, I'm
:43:28. > :43:31.not so sure. Going overboard? No, I think they are contenders but I
:43:32. > :43:38.don't think they'll win it. I think it will be City or Arsenal. A United
:43:39. > :43:44.squad, even though United haven't make a great start, the depth and
:43:45. > :43:48.quality leaves them there. Ollie and Phil and Mark, thank you. One late
:43:49. > :43:54.text from Roddy says a duty to entertain from footballers at nearly
:43:55. > :43:59.?100 a ticket, darn right there is! Hopefully there'll be goals in both
:44:00. > :44:18.of today's games. See you for Match of the Day later.
:44:19. > :44:21.There's a brand-new way to stay on top of the Premier League action.
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