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:00:33. > :00:40.coming up on Match of the Day Extra, Mourinho and Pellegrini go

:00:41. > :00:44.head to head for the first time in English football as Chelsea and

:00:45. > :00:53.Manchester city need. Is the north-east derby already a win for

:00:54. > :00:58.Gus Poyet at? We will have -- Will Hernandez's Golby a defining moment

:00:59. > :01:02.for David Moyes? Who is the best partnership in the league? And who

:01:03. > :01:08.will take over at Crystal Palace? With me in the studio, Mark

:01:09. > :01:22.Lawrenson, Conor McNamara and Matt Lawton. We want your views as well.

:01:23. > :01:26.And we want your views as well and who the best strike partnership in

:01:27. > :01:35.the Premier League is. It was a debate that started on 606 last

:01:36. > :01:47.night. Is it Rooney and van Persie, or storage and Suarez? -- storage.

:01:48. > :01:55.We will give you the results later. What caught your view yesterday,

:01:56. > :02:00.Mark? I just think the 70th minute at Manchester United, from there to

:02:01. > :02:03.the end of the game was probably the biggest moment in David Moyes's

:02:04. > :02:08.managerial career. If they had been beaten by Stoke City yesterday,

:02:09. > :02:13.imagine the headlines on every single back page this morning. I

:02:14. > :02:22.think you are right. If they had lost, that would have been the main

:02:23. > :02:29.story. The Liverpool from forums -- performance struck me. Luis Suarez

:02:30. > :02:33.was sensational. I was uncomfortable with the desire to keep him over the

:02:34. > :02:40.summer. But I guess they felt quite justified in that yesterday. You

:02:41. > :02:45.were at St Mary's. There has to come a point where Southampton are not

:02:46. > :02:52.called the surprise package? I thought it might have been a banana

:02:53. > :02:56.skin. But they pressed, they give the opposition. The attack the

:02:57. > :03:01.fullbacks and the central defenders. You expect them to get caught out.

:03:02. > :03:09.But last weekend they did it at Old Trafford, last week they did it at

:03:10. > :03:14.Fulham. They deserve to be third. We will look back over yesterday's

:03:15. > :03:20.games in detail later. First, let's look ahead to one of today's big

:03:21. > :03:32.games. Chelsea against Manchester city. Here are the thoughts of both

:03:33. > :03:39.managers. It is a, yes. It is a very good team. But every match is a test

:03:40. > :03:45.and every match is three points. It doesn't make a difference. Of

:03:46. > :03:50.course, it is an important moment. It is always an important moment to

:03:51. > :03:57.play the team that has a chance to win the Premier League. I repeat the

:03:58. > :04:01.same thing we -- I said when we played against Manchester United, it

:04:02. > :04:07.is a match of six points. They play at home. This is our third game

:04:08. > :04:12.playing away. We hope we can continue winning. Will have you

:04:13. > :04:20.enjoyed dealing with more out of those managers? -- who have you

:04:21. > :04:24.enjoyed dealing with? I'm afraid, we are all a bit soft when it comes to

:04:25. > :04:36.Jose Mourinho. You have gone moist in the eye! We were very pleased he

:04:37. > :04:38.came back, losing Fergie. It has left a huge hole in English

:04:39. > :04:41.football. To get Joseph back was a massive boost. I find him utterly

:04:42. > :04:46.fascinating. He can be maddening, he can be a courageous. In his first

:04:47. > :04:52.term, some of the things he said and did, he incurred the wrath of UEFA,

:04:53. > :05:00.got branded in -- an enemy of football. For us, as an industry,

:05:01. > :05:06.great copy. Pellegrini is the chill Chilean. He is not great copy.

:05:07. > :05:12.Intriguing all the same. He is probably what that football club

:05:13. > :05:19.needed, a chilled Chilean. Somebody who is not going to get too carried

:05:20. > :05:24.away? That is exactly what he is doing. With the two Spaniards they

:05:25. > :05:27.have got in there who are running the clubs in -- club in terms of the

:05:28. > :05:33.players they bring in, you can suddenly see there seems to be a

:05:34. > :05:38.plan. At Southampton that is what they are doing. The Chairman, I

:05:39. > :05:43.didn't particularly like him for what he did to Nigel Adkins, but he

:05:44. > :05:47.has got a plan. With Manchester city, there is an element of that.

:05:48. > :05:52.My problem with Manchester city would be that without Vincent

:05:53. > :05:56.Kompany, they are not the same team. I think there is a parallel with

:05:57. > :06:00.Pochettino and Pellegrini coming in under the radar. You don't get to

:06:01. > :06:05.cross-examine them when you interview them. But it keeps them

:06:06. > :06:10.below the radar. They are quite happy with that. Let the team do the

:06:11. > :06:14.talking for them. Pellegrini is a very intelligent man but he doesn't

:06:15. > :06:22.feel the need to entertain as Mourinho does. Just continue this, ,

:06:23. > :06:58.this is great, travel abroad with Manchester City,

:06:59. > :07:06.which you already have, do you sense a difference on those club trips?

:07:07. > :07:10.Yes, I don't think Mancini with a great entertainer either. He didn't

:07:11. > :07:13.see press conferences as the stage that Mourinho does. He was more at

:07:14. > :07:20.home with it. He felt more confident having won the title. Pellegrini is

:07:21. > :07:25.quite a humble guy. Because he is such a tall man, you stand beside

:07:26. > :07:31.him and he is a big presence. His personality doesn't need to be as

:07:32. > :07:37.loud. Imagine the dressing room when he talks. Everybody stops. A good

:07:38. > :07:41.yardstick for a manager is when everybody in the club likes him. I

:07:42. > :07:46.don't think it Manchester City that was the case with Mancini. I don't

:07:47. > :07:52.do was particularly well liked. This guy gives me the impression he is.

:07:53. > :07:57.We get a difference in philosophy? In terms of structure and hierarchy

:07:58. > :08:02.and how both clubs are run? Possibly. There is a very definite

:08:03. > :08:08.modern European structure at Manchester city. They are seen as

:08:09. > :08:15.the two great moneybags of English football? Yes. City are being quite

:08:16. > :08:18.cute. I think they will emerge at the head of the pack at the end of

:08:19. > :08:22.the season. They have the most complete squad, the most complete

:08:23. > :08:29.team and they have got a very calm manager. The guys from Barcelona, as

:08:30. > :08:35.we talked about, there is a plan, there is a training ground cumin.

:08:36. > :08:42.You are always going to have that settling in period and getting used

:08:43. > :08:46.to the new owners. You had the period with Garry Cook. You had that

:08:47. > :08:52.change at the top. They now seem settled. I think they are only going

:08:53. > :09:02.one way. Have you been to city lately due Mac all the buildings.

:09:03. > :09:06.The infrastructure around the stadium... And they have inherited

:09:07. > :09:16.the gasworks. They are virtually cleaning the soil. As you do! You

:09:17. > :09:23.don't want dirty soil! Let's move onto the big derby in the North East

:09:24. > :09:27.Sunderland against Newcastle. I think there is just as much pressure

:09:28. > :09:31.on them to win it. They need to start winning games. Goss will know

:09:32. > :09:37.that. I have seen them at home twice this year and they have done OK.

:09:38. > :09:41.They are not far away. United, I thought they were good. At Fulham,

:09:42. > :09:46.they were good. We have to respect them. It is not a foregone

:09:47. > :09:54.conclusion. Any result there would be a good result. A draw or a win.

:09:55. > :09:58.But we want to win if we can. If you need to win one game in this

:09:59. > :10:04.football club, it is this derby. We know that. We need a win, we need

:10:05. > :10:09.the three points. We are desperate to go there and do well. If we can

:10:10. > :10:15.start doing that in this game, it is perfection. They are always special.

:10:16. > :10:25.I don't think you can analyse these games. It is unique. Let's bring in

:10:26. > :10:31.Kevin Kilbane at the Stadium of light. We heard Gus Poyet say that

:10:32. > :10:35.if there is one game that needs to be won, it is this one. Alan Pardew

:10:36. > :10:43.says the pressure is on Sunderland. Is it? Possibly. This is the game

:10:44. > :10:47.that Sunderland need to turn their season around. They have not won

:10:48. > :10:51.this season. Looking at them at Swansea last week, when they

:10:52. > :10:55.conceded three goals in about seven or eight minutes, that is the

:10:56. > :11:02.telling factor. As soon as you concede, they cannot stop teams

:11:03. > :11:07.scoring against them. They need to improve on that now. Let's look at

:11:08. > :11:12.the table. They are seven points adrift. This could be a hopeless

:11:13. > :11:17.cause for a Gus Poyet very quickly? It could be. The disappointing thing

:11:18. > :11:21.about last week was that you kind of felt that once di Canio had gone,

:11:22. > :11:25.there would be a lift at the football club. It just has not

:11:26. > :11:31.happened. I watched them against Liverpool. The moment Liverpool

:11:32. > :11:41.scored, their confidence just disappeared. Beating Newcastle last

:11:42. > :11:45.season was the catalyst for di Canio's success in keeping them up.

:11:46. > :11:51.That is what they are banking on today. Gus Poyet will have learned

:11:52. > :11:56.more about the second half at Swansea, about those players. Talk

:11:57. > :12:01.about a quick learning curve. That was unbelievable. The first game he

:12:02. > :12:05.came in, parity, and then they crashed. He will know about the

:12:06. > :12:10.weaknesses. You learn about football and characters more when you get

:12:11. > :12:16.beat. You see how they react. Very important giving -- given the new

:12:17. > :12:20.manager coming in, players being gutless etc. They raise a danger

:12:21. > :12:25.that Sunderland go at this hammer and tongs, get summary sent off

:12:26. > :12:30.early. In the old days, it was all about taking the legs of someone in

:12:31. > :12:35.a derby. Now you have got to press and deny the opposition pace. If

:12:36. > :12:46.Sunderland get too pumped up, they are in massive trouble. Would that

:12:47. > :12:49.be a concern for you, Kevin? Yes. I think they will probably be looking

:12:50. > :12:53.for somebody like Lee Carter mould to stamp his authority on midfield.

:12:54. > :12:58.He has a tendency to overstep the mark. I'm sure that Gus Poyet will

:12:59. > :13:03.not want that to happen. There is a history of red cards in this

:13:04. > :13:07.fixture. Somebody needs to be careful they do not get a man sent

:13:08. > :13:10.off quickly. Newcastle had a player sent off last season but they

:13:11. > :13:17.outplayed Sunderland for a long periods after that. What have you

:13:18. > :13:21.made of Sunderland -- Newcastle this season? They are mid-table. Some

:13:22. > :13:27.games they play very well, some games they are all full. We were at

:13:28. > :13:31.the game at Goodison Park a few weeks ago. They were totally

:13:32. > :13:36.dominated in the first half. They were fortunate. I think in the

:13:37. > :13:39.second half they played really well. They didn't really test Everton as

:13:40. > :13:46.much as they would like. They have got a lot of quality. That game, the

:13:47. > :13:51.goals they scored in the second half against Everton, give them a sense

:13:52. > :13:54.of belief. They had a good win at Cardiff and last week at home to

:13:55. > :14:01.Liverpool they played really well. I think they are in a position where

:14:02. > :14:05.they need to start getting results. Kevin, we will let you go, so you

:14:06. > :14:11.don't have to keep battling whatever is flying overhead at the moment. Do

:14:12. > :14:17.you think there are plenty of positives for Newcastle to take out

:14:18. > :14:24.of how they have performed? Absolutely. Given that last week

:14:25. > :14:29.they played a team of Liverpool's quality, yes. You're talking about

:14:30. > :14:35.two teams in a very different state of mind at the moment, meeting

:14:36. > :14:40.today. You always say you play with your heart. Most important today,

:14:41. > :14:45.you play with your head. It is so easy to get sent off nowadays. It is

:14:46. > :14:49.a big thing for Sunderland. They should not get carried away.

:14:50. > :14:54.Newcastle will just sit and say, come on, try to beat us. You could

:14:55. > :14:59.argue on the disciplinary front, it is the same for Newcastle as well,

:15:00. > :15:05.they have had a couple of red cards this season. Stephen Taylor on the

:15:06. > :15:13.opening weekend. Last week's was denying a goal-scoring opportunity.

:15:14. > :15:17.They haven't. Steven Taylor has missed a lot of football. I wonder

:15:18. > :15:22.how threatened the Newcastle defence will be. I don't know where the pace

:15:23. > :15:26.is upfront. The mass of thing in Newcastle's favours Loic Remy. He

:15:27. > :15:34.has that little bit of impact that Sunderland have been missing. On the

:15:35. > :15:40.confidence thing, Fletcher told the Observer today di Canio didn't want

:15:41. > :15:46.us to smile, it was too much. What does he mean it was too much, as in

:15:47. > :15:52.laughing or enjoying yourself? Obviously they weren't, he is a

:15:53. > :15:55.raving nutcase, what do you expect? What comes through from that article

:15:56. > :16:02.is it is going to take Gus Poyet more than the two weeks he's had to

:16:03. > :16:08.get the morale back, to get them enjoying themselves again. You could

:16:09. > :16:13.think, as I say, talking to people that work there just a couple of

:16:14. > :16:16.weeks ago, there was a huge sense of relief that sanity has been

:16:17. > :16:20.restored, that they weren't allowed to speak to the tea lady or the guy

:16:21. > :16:28.that's worked for 50 years in the tunnel. Complete madness. Bonkers

:16:29. > :16:33.stuff. The thing with football generally is if you are in the team

:16:34. > :16:37.you like the manager. Under Paolo Di Canio, even the ones in the team

:16:38. > :16:41.didn't like the manager. We've had heard so much this week about Sir

:16:42. > :16:47.Alex Ferguson, the one thing that's come out of his book is he wanted to

:16:48. > :16:52.be in control. Di Canio has taken that too far. If you are taking

:16:53. > :16:59.saying that you can't speak to the tea lady, that's too far. And the

:17:00. > :17:07.bunk beds. Who would share a bunk bed with Lawro? That's a brilliant

:17:08. > :17:12.question. I used to share a room. But occasionally at Anfield Ronnie

:17:13. > :17:18.Moran would come in and say, who wants a divorced in if you weren't

:17:19. > :17:23.happy with your roommate, but those days are gone now. Relief around the

:17:24. > :17:28.Stadium of Light. There was plenty of relief yesterday at Old Trafford.

:17:29. > :17:32.David, a fantastic comeback in the final quarter hour of that game.

:17:33. > :17:36.Yes, and it was a really good victory. Players kept working right

:17:37. > :17:41.to the end. After the game in midweek it was great she showed the

:17:42. > :17:46.energy in the final 15 or 20 minutes. Were you worried it wasn't

:17:47. > :17:51.going to come? Yes, when we were 2-1 down, we had a few opportunities, we

:17:52. > :17:57.had goalkeepers who Ed needed to make a few good saves, but we end

:17:58. > :18:04.it, the way we kept pressing to try and score. I've been here three

:18:05. > :18:08.years in this club, and the spirit, the first moment I came here, the

:18:09. > :18:13.games are difficult and we find until the 90 minutes. We scored our

:18:14. > :18:19.third one. We won three points. The most important thing that we are

:18:20. > :18:25.trying to win the home games, not because in the last result they were

:18:26. > :18:28.very bad and thankfully we had six points, three in the Champions

:18:29. > :18:31.League and three in the Premier League. Do you think this might be

:18:32. > :18:35.the launch pad for more comfortable victories? I really hope, so but you

:18:36. > :18:41.never know. And your relationship with the manager, is that fine

:18:42. > :18:45.despite what one or two people have been writing? Don't understand that.

:18:46. > :18:50.It is more than fine. I'm really happy with the manager and stuff.

:18:51. > :18:56.Steve has got in touch with us and section how much work needs doing at

:18:57. > :18:59.Manchester United? Sit about improving the player there is or

:19:00. > :19:04.buying in? When you win the Premiership you have to seriously

:19:05. > :19:09.improve and strengthen your team, something that moich City --

:19:10. > :19:13.Manchester City failed to do. Manchester United strengthened with

:19:14. > :19:17.Robin van Persie. It is all about the players. Have Manchester United

:19:18. > :19:21.been stronger because Marouane Fellaini has been signed? No, they

:19:22. > :19:25.should have signed three or four outstanding players. If you walk

:19:26. > :19:29.into the dressing room and no-one's coming in to replace you, it is

:19:30. > :19:35.great. You have to be under pressure for your place. I think what we are

:19:36. > :19:40.seeing was inevitable. We only now really appreciate, I think we always

:19:41. > :19:45.did appreciate, but we can see the value of Alex Ferguson now. It was

:19:46. > :19:50.always going to be a struggle. A new chief executive, a new manager. The

:19:51. > :19:54.one for more, it was an interesting interview that van Persie gave,

:19:55. > :19:58.there he still doesn't look happy, despite what he's saying. There was

:19:59. > :20:03.an interesting line in Fergie's book, that Fergie had to apologise

:20:04. > :20:07.personally to van Persie, because when van Persie signed a year ago I

:20:08. > :20:14.think Fergie said he was going to be there for a few years. I just hope

:20:15. > :20:19.for Moyes's sake that van Persie isn't annoyed, sulking in anyway,

:20:20. > :20:23.because the manager's changed. Did operations shut down a little bit at

:20:24. > :20:27.Manchester United last May? There was all these tributes to Sir Alex

:20:28. > :20:31.Ferguson, the feeling of the end of an era. Normally Manchester United,

:20:32. > :20:36.so effective at getting early signings in the summer, in June,

:20:37. > :20:44.none of this last gasp week of the transfer window stuff. With Sir Alex

:20:45. > :20:48.Ferguson not plan ing ahead were Mr People in the background making

:20:49. > :20:52.these decisions? As soon as Moyes came in we thought Leighton Banes

:20:53. > :20:57.and Marouane Fellaini would go. Did they take their eye off the ball? I

:20:58. > :21:02.think losing David Gill was a big thing. If they could have kept him

:21:03. > :21:07.another year... Sir Alex Ferguson said that was his worry when him and

:21:08. > :21:11.David Gill met. He said he was going and David Gill said he was going to

:21:12. > :21:15.go. That was a concern. If you look at the Sunday times this morning,

:21:16. > :21:19.they've run a story saying that Manchester United are keeping tabs

:21:20. > :21:27.on ?85 million Gareth Bale. He didn't have the best of games

:21:28. > :21:32.yesterday. Within that article, the new chief executive at Manchester

:21:33. > :21:36.United has defend Manchester United's transfer policy and says it

:21:37. > :21:40.would have been a mistake to foist signings from anyone else on an

:21:41. > :21:48.incoming manager. I have got a lot of sympathy for Ed Woodward here.

:21:49. > :21:53.He's come in, Alex Ferguson might have had an idea were he to continue

:21:54. > :21:57.as to which players they were going to go for. They have had to wait for

:21:58. > :22:02.Moyes to come in. He started on July 1st. He's obviously been busy while

:22:03. > :22:06.not officially starting. But you've got to give him a chance to look at

:22:07. > :22:09.the squad and decide. I think it meant they came late to their

:22:10. > :22:16.transfer business. They have to accept that it is going to be a

:22:17. > :22:21.difficult first season. You couldn't say that Gareth bail would be forced

:22:22. > :22:27.on them. Which team in the world would not take Gareth Bale? I think

:22:28. > :22:30.he's coming back. Do you? I do. I think it is going to be really

:22:31. > :22:37.difficult for him in Madrid, in the same team as Ronaldo. Keep your

:22:38. > :22:41.texts and tweets coming in: in one of the other games yesterday,

:22:42. > :22:46.Norwich against Cardiff, the controversial moment came from le ro

:22:47. > :22:51.fer, who rather than -- Leroy fer, who rather than passing the ball he

:22:52. > :22:57.put into it the bottom corner of the Cardiff net. This is what he said

:22:58. > :23:04.after the game. Tell news your own words what was happening at the end?

:23:05. > :23:09.Ricky, he threw the ball to me and I hit it back into the net. But mean

:23:10. > :23:14.to pass it to the goalkeeper or were you heading for goal? I wanted a

:23:15. > :23:18.goal. The referee didn't below his whistle, so it didn't count. So but

:23:19. > :23:24.think you had scored the winning goal? I thought so, yes. What do you

:23:25. > :23:29.make of Cardiff's reaction and that the goal wasn't allowed to stand?

:23:30. > :23:32.They were mad, because the goalkeeper threw the ball out.

:23:33. > :23:37.That's the part of the game. In Holland if you do, that you can play

:23:38. > :23:41.on. I wanted to win the game but we didn't. But you understood the

:23:42. > :23:47.reaction of the Cardiff players? Yeah, I understood, so, yeah. It is

:23:48. > :23:53.their opinion of the game, and they know that we want to win the game,

:23:54. > :23:57.but yeah, it didn't come. Now you've been educated in the English way of

:23:58. > :24:01.doing things, next time it happens will you pass it back to the

:24:02. > :24:10.goalkeeper or go for goal again? I don't know. 1-0 up, I will give it

:24:11. > :24:17.back to the gel keeper, but 0-0 I will try to score again. An honest

:24:18. > :24:22.interview. I can appreciate, I know nothing about cricket but that big

:24:23. > :24:26.incident the summer whether the guy should have walked, it reminds me of

:24:27. > :24:31.that. All the pressure on the players, the team talks, the 100%

:24:32. > :24:36.all the time. Your instinct is to try to bend every law to the point

:24:37. > :24:42.of breaking. He will have seen this as not doing any harm, he plays on.

:24:43. > :24:47.He isn't making it up. On the Continent they have a different

:24:48. > :24:52.attitude to us on that. You admire his honesty and sportsmanship. But

:24:53. > :24:57.he didn't hit the ball with any great van om. It almost looked like

:24:58. > :25:05.a back pass. A very accurate pass into the bottom of the court. But

:25:06. > :25:09.the age old argument, it comes down to confusion about putting the ball

:25:10. > :25:15.out depending on whether someone is injured. What's the rule nowadays?

:25:16. > :25:19.What is the rule nowadays? I think it is generally accepted is you give

:25:20. > :25:24.the ball back to the opposition. If we are going to go down that road,

:25:25. > :25:28.good luck. Let's talk about where you were in more detail yesterday,

:25:29. > :25:33.and Southampton. Everybody is praising hem to the hilt, not just

:25:34. > :25:39.for the way they are playing but their work rate. Martin Jol said

:25:40. > :25:43.yesterday how aggressive they were, as a compliment. The amount of times

:25:44. > :25:53.Fulham had to struggle just to get the ball to the halfway line. Adam

:25:54. > :25:58.Lallana whipped the ball off their toes. Fulham have Sidwell and

:25:59. > :26:03.Parkary. They are seasoned is Premier League players, they are no

:26:04. > :26:08.mugs, and yet they had difficulty passing it down the field. If

:26:09. > :26:14.someone likes Adam Lallana has injury that's where their

:26:15. > :26:18.limitations will be exposed. If they can play like they did yesterday

:26:19. > :26:22.there is no reason they won't stay up there. They have got attacking

:26:23. > :26:26.players and they've started to build from the back with the players

:26:27. > :26:37.they've signed. Southampton a handful. Borough is in gold. They've

:26:38. > :26:43.got Wanyana midfield and Lallana... That's the spine. For all of the

:26:44. > :26:48.praise we are giving them and the kids they've brought through, as

:26:49. > :26:53.former striker Steve Claridge reminds me, they've spent over ?60

:26:54. > :26:57.million on this squad. They have but if they've spent it well, they

:26:58. > :27:01.deserve praise. This is the modern Premier League. It is part of what

:27:02. > :27:08.makes this season so fascinating, that it is so unpredictable and a

:27:09. > :27:12.club like Southampton is rising. Core taizy. There is real ambition

:27:13. > :27:18.there buts being done in a very astute way. It's not all about the

:27:19. > :27:24.money. Look at how much Sunderland have spend in the last few season.

:27:25. > :27:31.The academy, the left-back Luke Shaw is a player very much of the Gareth

:27:32. > :27:36.Bale mode. He is a left-back who plays like a left wink and he is

:27:37. > :27:40.still a kid, only a teenageary. The academy has been producing players

:27:41. > :27:44.for a while and you would hope for Southampton that think won't keep

:27:45. > :27:47.getting poached away. If we are looking at Southampton as a model of

:27:48. > :27:53.a club going into the Premier League and building it does bring us to

:27:54. > :28:00.Crystal Palace. All sorts of stuff in the Sunday Mirror. The headline

:28:01. > :28:05.is I'm hurting and my pride has been battered but I'll be back better and

:28:06. > :28:09.stronger. He talks as well about over the last four years hardly

:28:10. > :28:15.having a break from the game. She particularly critical about their

:28:16. > :28:19.policy in the summer, and that it was chaotic how they brought players

:28:20. > :28:26.in. It's a really interesting column. He uses the word, "Sacked".

:28:27. > :28:33.He said he offered his resignation after the Fulham game but it seems

:28:34. > :28:38.like he changed his mind overnight but was met by the desire from his

:28:39. > :28:44.boss to go anyway. He talks about the fact that the owners were just

:28:45. > :28:50.wanting to, I think he says anyone and everyone. They came up via the

:28:51. > :28:55.play-offs, so there is no pre-planning. It has to be a scatter

:28:56. > :28:58.gun approach. The two promoted teams are out buying players for the

:28:59. > :29:01.Premier League. They didn't know Crystal Palace until the day that

:29:02. > :29:05.they actually qualified to get into the Premier League. All of a sudden

:29:06. > :29:10.you are thinking, you missed the boat by a million miles. You are

:29:11. > :29:15.damned if you do and damned if you don't. We are saying Crystal Palace

:29:16. > :29:19.bought too many players and Manchester United haven't but the

:29:20. > :29:23.enough. I would argue against that. I think with Crystal Palace, it is

:29:24. > :29:28.like history written by the winners. They've gone out, we'll buy ten

:29:29. > :29:35.players, if six of them are good, it will be a success. He section

:29:36. > :29:40.looking back, because Steve Parish, his phone is going to voicemail. He

:29:41. > :29:43.became so obsessed with bringing in players that would help us cope with

:29:44. > :29:47.life in the top flight that he wanted to buy anyone and everyone.

:29:48. > :29:53.Because wen't didn't have time to put a proper plan of action in

:29:54. > :29:57.place, we became des programme. They were struggling towards the end of

:29:58. > :30:01.the season, so it wasn't a case of they were always going to be in the

:30:02. > :30:06.play-offs. It may have been, you know worckts we need one eye in case

:30:07. > :30:13.we get into the praoephrmingts and they start without three of the best

:30:14. > :30:17.players last season. Zaha, he goes to Manchester United, and another's

:30:18. > :30:23.been injured. It is difficult enough, like Cardiff, you can plan

:30:24. > :30:26.and you know you are coming one the Premiership, but that's hard. To do

:30:27. > :30:37.it like Crystal Palace is impossible. Who and their agent is

:30:38. > :30:45.going to sign for Crystal Palace if they can go to any team in the

:30:46. > :30:50.middle of the table? Steve Parrish has talked about maybe the potential

:30:51. > :30:53.of teaming up a young manager, a young coach, with an experienced

:30:54. > :31:01.want to have that director of football. If you read between the

:31:02. > :31:05.lines, and this is a complete guess, is that in some way insinuating that

:31:06. > :31:12.Neil Warnock may return to the club in an experienced role with a

:31:13. > :31:15.younger coach? It is possible. I think what Palace need now is Neil

:31:16. > :31:29.Warnock autonomy clueless as their manager. -- Tony Pulis.

:31:30. > :31:37.Warnock autonomy clueless as their much as he wanted to leave.

:31:38. > :31:37.Warnock autonomy clueless as their club staying there, get a top

:31:38. > :31:44.manager in. I think club staying there, get a top

:31:45. > :31:51.no-brainer. Just go and get him. We all love talking to Ian Holloway.

:31:52. > :31:51.no-brainer. Just go and get him. We Can Ian Holloway sometimes be too

:31:52. > :31:59.honest for his own good? Can Ian Holloway sometimes be too

:32:00. > :32:03.people say so. You are what you are. Just be normal. We

:32:04. > :32:03.people say so. You are what you are. Well, when I say normal! We like him

:32:04. > :32:08.because he is what he Well, when I say normal! We like him

:32:09. > :32:12.know if something else has happened. I find it

:32:13. > :32:15.know if something else has happened. just want to walk out as easy as

:32:16. > :32:20.that. Steve Parrish's phone is still going to voice mail. Maybe he is

:32:21. > :32:25.appointing the new Crystal Palace manager as we speak. Let's return to

:32:26. > :32:36.the big derby in the north-east. Sunderland make four changes from

:32:37. > :32:40.that defeat at Swansea. Josey Alta Doerr is among those who comes in.

:32:41. > :32:57.-- Josey Altidore. It looks as though Sunderland have

:32:58. > :33:01.looked at what Newcastle have at the back and thought they have a real

:33:02. > :33:04.chance of beating them. They are playing to upfront. You got the

:33:05. > :33:09.impression from Gus Poyet during the week that they will go for it this

:33:10. > :33:12.afternoon. Even what a passionate guy and a passionate manager years,

:33:13. > :33:20.you would expect him to be like that? Gus Poyet definitely smiled at

:33:21. > :33:28.the guy on the door on his way into the ground. Di Canio would not have

:33:29. > :33:34.done that. One of the other games today is Spurs against Hull. Spurs

:33:35. > :33:37.have a director of football. They brought in several players during

:33:38. > :33:45.the summer. One of the most Christian Eriksson.

:33:46. > :33:52.Everybody is fit. We have a really strong team. He has to make a

:33:53. > :33:57.decision about who is going to play and who is not. How realistic is it

:33:58. > :34:04.that is Spurs team can challenge for the Premier League title? Yet, I

:34:05. > :34:10.think it is realistic. We are fifth. We want to go into the top four. We

:34:11. > :34:13.have the team to try to become number one. Everybody would be

:34:14. > :34:22.settled -- satisfied with Champions League for next season. Is top four

:34:23. > :34:26.all they should aim for? No, I think they should aim for the top. If they

:34:27. > :34:33.fall a little bit short, it is not a problem. I don't think they can win

:34:34. > :34:39.it. One viewer asks why they are not realistic title contenders? The

:34:40. > :34:43.reason is I don't think Andre Villas-Boas knows his best team yet.

:34:44. > :34:48.There is still an Achilles heel with Tottenham. I also think Manchester

:34:49. > :34:54.City and Chelsea are better. I feel with Tottenham, how can you possibly

:34:55. > :34:58.lose at home to West Ham by 3-0? That would seriously worry me. They

:34:59. > :35:04.have two players in every single position. It is a mentality thing

:35:05. > :35:08.with Tottenham. I think Christian Eriksson is the guy that Manchester

:35:09. > :35:14.United could have signed -- should have signed. They will aspire to the

:35:15. > :35:20.league title but it is too much, too soon for a squad recently assembled.

:35:21. > :35:27.Give them 12 months, then you will have a title contender. I think they

:35:28. > :35:31.have got a chance. I think AVB is the real deal. For all his problems

:35:32. > :35:35.at Chelsea. I don't think that was his fault. I think that was just a

:35:36. > :35:38.dressing and that could not get their heads around one of

:35:39. > :35:43.Mourinho's the tenants suddenly being their manager. I think he has

:35:44. > :35:53.been very astute. He has bought well. He was seriously let down at

:35:54. > :35:57.Chelsea. It was a project. We used to laugh at him. But all of a sudden

:35:58. > :36:05.the project was taken away from him. He is a good template for the likes

:36:06. > :36:09.of Tony Pulis. He can bounce back. That is the measure of the man, the

:36:10. > :36:17.way he has bounced back. That tells me he is top class. He has also been

:36:18. > :36:24.given the support to bounce back. I mentioned director of football. All

:36:25. > :36:31.the tools out there for him to get it right. Yes. One of his biggest

:36:32. > :36:35.problems now is going to be players knocking on his door wondering why

:36:36. > :36:41.they are not on the team. That is something else he has got to deal

:36:42. > :36:47.with. That is the best problem a football manager can never have.

:36:48. > :36:50.What was the difference between Hull in preseason and Crystal Palace as

:36:51. > :36:57.regards transfers? Steve Bruce brought in a few players in as well,

:36:58. > :37:02.some very late. I have seen quite a bit of Hull this season. Interesting

:37:03. > :37:11.today, playing against Tottenham, Tom Huddleston will be fired up.

:37:12. > :37:18.Jake Livermore cannot play. For a 36 games in the season, the likes of

:37:19. > :37:25.Lukaku is going to be banging goals against Chelsea's ponds. When I have

:37:26. > :37:29.seen Hull, Huddleston has been regenerated. It was the right time

:37:30. > :37:37.to leave Spurs. He needed a break. Playing alongside Jake Livermore has

:37:38. > :37:42.made him better. Steve Bruce has been in this position before. Wigan,

:37:43. > :37:46.Birmingham. He knows. He has used the system extremely well. Andy

:37:47. > :37:52.strikes me as a really good man manager. The vote has closed. Who

:37:53. > :37:58.has the best strike partnership? Liverpool or Manchester United? Do

:37:59. > :38:04.you worry about West Ham this season from what you have seen so far? I

:38:05. > :38:10.think, we're talking managers, Sam Allardyce will keep them out of

:38:11. > :38:14.trouble. Certainly by the end of the season. They need Andy Carroll back.

:38:15. > :38:20.I went over to Antwerp last week to see him. He is on the mend. He will

:38:21. > :38:23.be back by the start of December. It is an unusual injury. It is an

:38:24. > :38:32.injury that is quite common in ballet. The tenants that connect his

:38:33. > :38:36.heels... It is a really nasty injury, which is why he is seeing a

:38:37. > :38:42.specialist over there. He will be back and that will give them a lift.

:38:43. > :38:48.When he is in Antwerp, easy out there on his own, at the club

:38:49. > :38:53.supporting him? They sent the medical staff out there. The West

:38:54. > :38:59.Ham physio was there. He is literally in a hotel. Would you send

:39:00. > :39:05.Andy Carroll out there on his own? ! Isn't that what you mean? I was

:39:06. > :39:09.meaning it from a sympathetic viewpoint. You have got a serious

:39:10. > :39:15.injury, you are getting treatment abroad. I would imagine it is not

:39:16. > :39:20.particularly nice. He's in there all day long. It is an amazing place.

:39:21. > :39:24.There is a guy who is a Tour de France rider. There is a

:39:25. > :39:30.professional basketball player. Vincent Kompany's brother was in

:39:31. > :39:36.there that day. There is a family injury issue, obviously! He is in a

:39:37. > :39:43.good place. Interesting he has gone to Belgium. Is there anything they

:39:44. > :39:51.cannot do? Let's go back to Stamford Bridge. Chelsea against Manchester

:39:52. > :39:58.City. Pat Nevin is there. Where is this going to be won and lost? There

:39:59. > :40:02.could be a number of players. I should apologise now for my sore

:40:03. > :40:08.throat. I have been given a little bit of a drink by Chelsea to keep me

:40:09. > :40:11.going. Looking at both teams during the week, particularly Manchester

:40:12. > :40:20.City, the centre back partnership is important. For me, it didn't work in

:40:21. > :40:26.midweek. I don't know what he is going to go for. Vincent Kompany is

:40:27. > :40:31.not available. I think Jose Mourinho will see that as a definite

:40:32. > :40:41.weakness. Chelsea want to play as a break inside. They have got players

:40:42. > :40:44.who can break from midfield. I suspect Manchester may sit back and

:40:45. > :40:46.little bit, and that will not suit Chelsea. As far as Chelsea are

:40:47. > :40:53.concerned, the front four, how would you set that up this afternoon? I

:40:54. > :41:02.think the manager loves the fact he gets a lot of movement and energy

:41:03. > :41:09.out of Sherlock. He is the first one out there. They have got an amazing

:41:10. > :41:13.amount of legs in that area. I say this advisedly, the sitting

:41:14. > :41:18.midfielders are not sitting midfielders. What they are is deep

:41:19. > :41:20.lying midfielders. If it is Ramires and Lampard, everybody knows they

:41:21. > :41:25.are not holding players. They will break with amazing pace. It has

:41:26. > :41:29.worked very well since maybe after the first couple of the games of the

:41:30. > :41:33.season. That is something that Manchester City will be concerned

:41:34. > :41:38.about. Because they are concerned about that, I don't think they will

:41:39. > :41:41.be quite as open as they have been. Does he go with more power in there

:41:42. > :41:50.with Milner instead of going with Jesus Navas? I hope David Silva

:41:51. > :41:59.plays. He is one of my favourite players. I think Milner will maybe

:42:00. > :42:03.get the shirt though. It may be a slow game at the start. If somebody

:42:04. > :42:13.scores early, it opens up. You're basically saying that Mourinho will

:42:14. > :42:17.take legs over trickery? Yes, he will, unless he has got a team that

:42:18. > :42:27.he knows he has to break down. Then you might get the likes of other

:42:28. > :42:32.players in the game. Certainly those lakes and the pace of breaking is

:42:33. > :42:37.the one he goes to. Trying to second-guess Jose Mourinho... Last

:42:38. > :42:42.week against Cardiff there was a four-minute period which was the

:42:43. > :42:51.best four minutes of tactics I have seen in about a decade. He went to a

:42:52. > :42:58.three, two. -- three, two, three, two. Game won. Well done. Fantastic

:42:59. > :43:05.tactics. We will let you go off and do that

:43:06. > :43:10.voice over for a blockbuster film! We have been asking you to vote on

:43:11. > :43:18.your best strike partnership. Over 70%, 72%, went for the Liverpool

:43:19. > :43:23.strike partnership. It is not often that Suarez is positive on social

:43:24. > :43:27.media. Does that surprise you? In current form, absolutely not. During

:43:28. > :43:33.the season, I suspect it will go the other way. If you take the last two

:43:34. > :43:37.years and expect to see over the next two years, you may go for

:43:38. > :43:41.Rooney and van Persie. But right here, right now, I would go for the

:43:42. > :43:49.Liverpool player. We are out of time. Mark will be with me for Match

:43:50. > :43:52.of the Day later. You can listen to Chelsea against Manchester City on

:43:53. > :44:00.Five Live from four o'clock. Coming up, the FA Cup draw. The first

:44:01. > :44:01.round. See you next week. Buy. -- goodbye.