Quarter-Final: Wigan v St Helens

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:00:45. > :00:52.Welcome to Wigan. It is a glorious day. And it has been an exciting

:00:52. > :00:59.week for the football fans of this town. We get take the league.

:00:59. > :01:09.Blackburn Rovers are being relegated. -- 0 Wigan. Today, or

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:01:09. > :02:12.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

:02:12. > :02:22.Wigan Warriors to take on their This is a rival they that stretches

:02:22. > :02:22.

:02:22. > :02:27.back to 1895. The original and technically only local derby. The

:02:27. > :02:34.Earl of Derby has given his name to Only two events and this is one of

:02:34. > :02:42.them. St Helens have lifted the club 12 times, Wigan have lifted at

:02:42. > :02:49.18 times. It is the Wigan Warriors who are the holders it now. They

:02:49. > :02:59.beat Leeds last year at Wembley. They got there despite a fightback

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:03:03. > :03:08.from today's opponents in a semi- St Helens have enjoyed winning five

:03:08. > :03:14.times that sense at the Millennium. They have been end 11 its a

:03:14. > :03:24.consecutive semi-finals. -- have been in 11 consecutive looks semi-

:03:24. > :03:25.

:03:25. > :03:31.But they beat the Vikings by a small margin. It is going to be a

:03:31. > :03:38.terrific match. There is a great atmosphere. Jonny Lomax has been

:03:38. > :03:43.out practising his kicking. The players have had a tough season.

:03:43. > :03:50.But for the fans, this is the match that matters. There is no love lost

:03:50. > :03:59.between Wigan and his St Helens. You are good to see a wonderful

:03:59. > :04:04.match today. I am pitch at the side at the DW stadium. There has been a

:04:04. > :04:09.lot of talk about whether the pitch would take two games in to my days.

:04:09. > :04:19.But at the picture looks in fabulous condition. Beside me are

:04:19. > :04:26.

:04:26. > :04:32.You managed St Helens and then switched it to Wigan. How did you

:04:32. > :04:37.get away with that? I do not know if I did. Does appease of your

:04:37. > :04:42.heart always belong to St Helens? Definitely. I spent a long time

:04:42. > :04:48.here. I met a lot of great people, it is a very professional club

:04:48. > :04:56.steeped in history. This was a golden era in 2004 when you beat

:04:56. > :05:05.Wigan in that final at the Millennium Stadium. How does this a

:05:05. > :05:13.Pelhams of today compare? -- How does at St Helens compare now as to

:05:13. > :05:17.them? No disrespect to the players today, but that was a golden team.

:05:17. > :05:27.We had a great blend with great experience. That was a great

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:05:28. > :05:32.occasion in Cardiff. He still looks well enough to play! Wigan are

:05:32. > :05:36.pretty good. They are top of the ladder for a reason. They are a big

:05:36. > :05:46.team. They are a great side and they have world class players in

:05:46. > :05:47.

:05:47. > :05:55.their ranks. Thomas Leuluai, and the rest of the pack. Jeff Lima,

:05:55. > :06:05.Epalahame Lauaki, they keep them going forward. Again are favourites

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:06:12. > :06:17.today? Yes. -- are the favourites Wigan today? Yes. The St Helens

:06:17. > :06:27.arguably have a stronger line up today. On paper, they do have a

:06:27. > :06:28.

:06:28. > :06:38.stronger line-up. Gareth Hock is a powerhouse. He tore into the St

:06:38. > :06:41.

:06:41. > :06:46.Helens defence. Sia Soliola will have to combat that today. Wigan

:06:46. > :06:52.had a slight edge today. Discipline will be absolutely key. We will be

:06:52. > :06:56.talking about that. The crowd are starting to war their approval. We

:06:56. > :07:06.already know the first side through to the semi-finals and that is

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:07:07. > :07:13.Leeds Rhinos. Last night, at they play centurions. Leeds went ahead

:07:13. > :07:23.after eight minutes, but centurions put up a good fight back. Leeds

:07:23. > :07:24.

:07:24. > :07:34.Rhinos at war Darren centurions. -- The other quarter-finals coming

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:07:56. > :08:00.We will have live coverage of these After our coverage today... We will

:08:00. > :08:10.be discussing any of the issues that you would like to cover. The

:08:10. > :08:19.These two sides have played 27 times in a Challenge Cup history.

:08:19. > :08:29.The first of those in 1897. This is a classic derby. The rivalry is

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:08:32. > :08:41.worn into the very fabric of Challenge Cup history. -- of old --

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:08:42. > :09:25.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

:09:25. > :09:30.The 2002 Challenge Cup winner's at, In a Super League, St Helens made a

:09:30. > :09:40.stuttering start to the season. Four consecutive defeat cost Royce

:09:40. > :09:43.

:09:43. > :09:47.Simmons his job. But the caretaker team of Mike Rush stepped in. Mike

:09:47. > :09:51.Rush and Keiron Cunningham got St Helens back on a roll. Wigan are

:09:51. > :09:57.the most successful team in Challenge Cup history. But the

:09:57. > :10:07.holders got a scare against Featherstone in the last round. But

:10:07. > :10:08.

:10:08. > :10:18.Wigan have won their last seven matches. The sweetest of those

:10:18. > :10:19.

:10:19. > :10:23.victories came when they visited St Helens new home at Langtree Park.

:10:23. > :10:33.That consistency from Wigan has been awarded him points. They are

:10:33. > :10:33.

:10:33. > :10:40.out in front. St Helens after that ropey start, their players really

:10:40. > :10:50.responded well under Mike Rush. In terms of tactics for today, what

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:10:53. > :10:57.will St Helens do to try to stop There we him Warriors are top of

:10:57. > :11:03.the Super League table. -- at the Wigan Warriors. They know how to

:11:03. > :11:13.put the ball over the try-line. Scoring. Starts at the middle of

:11:13. > :11:23.the park for me. Epalahame Lauaki has come from Hull FC last season.

:11:23. > :11:25.

:11:25. > :11:34.He is struggling at this point in time. What they want to do, once he

:11:34. > :11:43.get into the opposition half is split the opposition. This is the

:11:43. > :11:49.player of the ball. The first defender is going to have to deal

:11:49. > :11:59.with the first leader runner. Either Thomas Leuluai or Brett

:11:59. > :12:15.

:12:15. > :12:23.Thomas Leuluai leaves an overlap. This is what makes a Wigan very

:12:23. > :12:28.special. Tomkins is the man to watch. They are trying to create an

:12:28. > :12:34.overlap. But what ever side he goes to is generally where the ball will

:12:34. > :12:42.go to. Tomkins is the first of our players

:12:42. > :12:52.to watch. He is the highest valued Player him Super League. He has got

:12:52. > :12:53.

:12:53. > :12:59.skill, a great game sense, his anticipation it is very good. He

:12:59. > :13:07.will burn your back if you do not stay square. He feeds off the back

:13:07. > :13:17.of other players. He adds polish to its other players. And he is still

:13:17. > :13:20.

:13:20. > :13:30.only 23. Josh Charnley is Wigan's youngest player. He does at the

:13:30. > :13:31.

:13:31. > :13:41.tough stuff. We ask the Wakehurst to -- at the winner's de bridge the

:13:41. > :13:54.

:13:54. > :13:59.him. He is very strong, very quick, very elusive. The top scorer so far.

:13:59. > :14:07.Paul Wellens is a player that other players like to play with. He is

:14:07. > :14:17.meticulous, clinical, one of the best players in that area. And he

:14:17. > :14:18.

:14:18. > :14:28.brings experience. One of the orders players on the pitch. What

:14:28. > :14:31.about Jonny Lomax? He is an exciting product. He is a local boy.

:14:31. > :14:41.A lot of these teams have played against each other at every age

:14:41. > :14:41.

:14:41. > :14:48.level. His position is scrum-half. He is a brilliant player, elusive

:14:48. > :14:58.as well. What he does do is lingered really well with Paul

:14:58. > :14:59.

:14:59. > :15:06.Wellens. He will create And he is physically very strong

:15:06. > :15:11.but he had a bad head injury when he was 14. Back in 2006 I saw him

:15:11. > :15:16.in hospital and he had a wires coming out of his head. He had a

:15:16. > :15:20.long-term problem in the sport but I came back to Australia and he

:15:20. > :15:25.came back and I admire him. He is playing at the highest level and is

:15:25. > :15:34.one of the most promising players. He backs his speed and he has got

:15:34. > :15:42.courage and skill. Look at the flags going up in the grandstand.

:15:42. > :15:51.Loyal 18? Marking be 18 Challenge Cup wins of Whigham. I can see what

:15:51. > :15:57.it is. The 18th man in the team. It probably says loyal to their.

:15:57. > :16:03.Instead of dampening down the fire of the light -- rivalry, they have

:16:04. > :16:07.been staking it up. How do you sum it up? It has been there all the

:16:07. > :16:15.time and it is a healthy rivalry and the clubs enjoy it. We have got

:16:15. > :16:21.respect for each other but you want to come out on top against them.

:16:21. > :16:25.Four teams up on top. How do we can come out on top? They have been

:16:25. > :16:30.superb this week and I had shared a lot of footage from the game at

:16:30. > :16:36.Langtree Park which we won convincingly. The confidence is

:16:36. > :16:41.superb and team spirit is fantastic. No further motivation is needed.

:16:41. > :16:48.How would you sum up the rivalry? I have heard it compared to the old

:16:48. > :16:53.firm in Glasgow. It is worse than that! I have a lot of respect for

:16:53. > :16:59.people in St Helens regarding the board and the coach. But I have

:16:59. > :17:04.been brought up as a Wigan lad. They are the arch rivals. They are

:17:04. > :17:12.the team we badly want to beat. you have done a terrific job since

:17:12. > :17:16.you came in. How have you turned things around? I am not sure it was

:17:16. > :17:20.doom and gloom. We have always got high expectations and I think we

:17:20. > :17:26.needed the senior players to buy into the changes we wanted to make.

:17:26. > :17:30.We seem to have been able to turn it around. The players will be

:17:30. > :17:36.coming out into this wall of sound two-shot lead. We can get

:17:36. > :17:42.predictions. Brian? Wigan will be slightly too strong. I think the

:17:42. > :17:48.bench is a bit more up to speed and I think we could well be too strong.

:17:48. > :17:54.My heart says Saints but my head says Wigan. It is very important,

:17:54. > :18:00.the rivalry with Jonny Lomax. He has been a stand out all his career.

:18:00. > :18:06.I think it will be close but I will just go with Wigan. And they've

:18:06. > :18:10.football fans here will be up in the box next to what is normally be

:18:10. > :18:20.television studio and I hope they will enjoy this match. We have got

:18:20. > :18:23.

:18:23. > :18:29.a couple up they're getting married them. They have had a mutual

:18:29. > :18:33.loathing and it is an at all costs of victory that they will be

:18:33. > :18:39.demanding, both sets of supporters. Not just another game of rugby.

:18:39. > :18:49.This matters more than most of. Some surprise absences will stop

:18:49. > :18:56.Jack Hughes comes back. Pat Richards still absent. These

:18:56. > :19:03.players came good at the Academy. They all started at this club. We

:19:03. > :19:09.have not got any shortage of St Helens talents either. Jonny Lomax

:19:09. > :19:15.is potentially eye-catching today. Danny Jones back from a shoulder

:19:15. > :19:22.injury. A consistent performer of. James Roby makes his 250th

:19:22. > :19:29.appearance today. He comes back from a shoulder injury. A reminder

:19:29. > :19:39.that all four changes will be available throughout the game. 12

:19:39. > :19:43.

:19:43. > :19:47.in total can be made, changes by either coach. The referee today...

:19:47. > :19:56.Sam Tomkins might just be a match- winner but we have got so many on

:19:56. > :20:02.both sides that might be match winners today. In reality, it is a

:20:03. > :20:12.chance for one team or the other to lord it over their reviled rivals

:20:13. > :20:36.

:20:36. > :20:41.game. They have been consistent player has scored one try in his

:20:41. > :20:51.last five matches. But had little opportunity to make any movement

:20:51. > :20:52.

:20:52. > :20:58.there. A half break by Anthony Gelling. He has lost it. It was a

:20:58. > :21:04.cleaner lost. Gelling knows that was a big mistake in the early

:21:04. > :21:14.stages of the game. St Helens have the advantage Independent's half.

:21:14. > :21:29.

:21:29. > :21:37.You have got to control it. That stages. Emotions are bound to be

:21:37. > :21:46.running. A few words exchanged, I think. We will keep an eye on that.

:21:46. > :21:56.They are still chatting. current New Zealand internationals

:21:56. > :22:23.

:22:23. > :22:31.where he loves to Rome! And it goes St Helen's wave. James Roby,

:22:31. > :22:39.magnificent player, he makes the distance. Squared up the defenders.

:22:39. > :22:45.High tackle. A great opportunity. Perry with the initial drive.

:22:45. > :22:53.Anxious moments for both teams in attack and defence. Anthony

:22:53. > :23:03.Laffranchi bus stop a real touch --. A real tussle going on. James Roby

:23:03. > :23:03.

:23:04. > :23:13.collects it. Jonny Lomax across the line. Wigan's defence recovers well

:23:14. > :23:29.

:23:29. > :23:39.enough. Paul Wellens, I thought he area. It is causing problems. --

:23:39. > :23:40.

:23:40. > :23:48.goal area. That was a lovely kick. It was deflected. Early pressure

:23:48. > :23:58.from Saints. And if you are watching at home, you can pick your

:23:58. > :24:23.

:24:23. > :24:29.winner right now. Neutrals not momentum going forward. Roby. Real

:24:30. > :24:39.pressure but you think they would have to come away with something.

:24:40. > :24:47.

:24:48. > :24:57.very well organised defence at the awkwardly and taken! And St

:24:58. > :24:58.

:24:58. > :25:03.touchdown by Paul Wellens! He wants to have a look again. That was a

:25:03. > :25:08.lovely kick. They dropped back and they were recovering. It was well

:25:08. > :25:18.recovered. But the accuracy of that kick was magnificent. The bouncing

:25:18. > :25:26.of the ball favoured St Helens. He is back. Definitely onside. Check

:25:26. > :25:31.be chasing. Kicked it into space. It's checked a little bit of. He

:25:31. > :25:40.was quick enough to realise that he was going to be held up. Offloaded

:25:40. > :25:50.and as always, Paul Wellens is there. But was there a bubble here?

:25:50. > :25:52.

:25:52. > :25:59.Was that forward? You would think not. Definitely a try. Will it be

:25:59. > :26:05.first blood, St Helens? Tried given! St Helens have the lead and

:26:06. > :26:11.what a start to that game. A great start. The first mistake and they

:26:11. > :26:21.kept possession well. They had patience, composure and when

:26:21. > :26:46.

:26:46. > :26:54.opportunities came, they scored. set into another. Keep and built

:26:54. > :27:01.pressure and they got their rewards which was a try. That was a shocker

:27:01. > :27:08.by Jonny Lomax. He would have expected that any day of the week

:27:08. > :27:12.but he missed. He just snapped. It was very well covered and that put

:27:12. > :27:22.it into space. The ball bounces up and it has been taken and put away

:27:22. > :27:31.

:27:31. > :27:35.get through this next period. all about momentum. All the

:27:35. > :27:45.pressure they had, they needed to come away with something and they

:27:45. > :27:57.

:27:57. > :28:05.have had possession but were in danger of getting it a wave.

:28:05. > :28:15.Another six tackles here. Josh Perry, the former Australian

:28:15. > :28:16.

:28:16. > :28:20.international. Sean O'Loughlin. Well racked up by the three

:28:20. > :28:30.defenders. Still fighting and they have cracked inside the opposition

:28:30. > :28:41.

:28:41. > :28:51.opportunity and that is all he needs. The gap closes. The ball is

:28:51. > :28:51.

:28:52. > :28:57.back on the inside again. That was five and here comes the last.

:28:57. > :29:05.Tomkins has it and he is in the field of play. We can get down to

:29:05. > :29:10.the touch line. I think Wigan are going to have to hold on to this

:29:10. > :29:14.ball because I think the town has been set. St Helens are straight

:29:14. > :29:24.back into it. It is about not giving the opposition absolutely

:29:24. > :29:59.

:29:59. > :30:09.take. Gaining in confidence. All the pressure has come from Saints.

:30:09. > :30:35.

:30:35. > :30:41.the overlap. -- Charnley. The fifth tackle has been got through again.

:30:41. > :30:51.Here comes at the last. A bit of a nervous attitude. But no problems

:30:51. > :31:19.

:31:19. > :31:29.at this time. He wants to get on is going crazy. That was a clear

:31:29. > :31:36.

:31:36. > :31:43.have made it two errors. There they are. Just need to keep it simple.

:31:43. > :31:51.Kick it basic. Get a good kick him and put some pressure on St Helens.

:31:51. > :32:00.They have had no pressure on them what so ever. The whole game has

:32:00. > :32:10.been played inside Wigan's half. Ones St Helens get a play at the

:32:10. > :32:41.

:32:41. > :32:45.ball, Roby is on. Here comes Roby What is the key to said Helen's

:32:45. > :32:51.establishing this early dominance? They have done a really good job of

:32:51. > :32:56.taking the ball forward. They have put Wigan under pressure.

:32:56. > :33:06.important is a good start? It is absolutely massive, especially

:33:06. > :33:13.

:33:13. > :33:23.coming to a place like Wigan. It is those two. Words being exchanged.

:33:23. > :33:57.

:33:57. > :34:07.damaging. Robbie is on the other side. This is finished. Some

:34:07. > :34:16.

:34:17. > :34:26.an opportunity like that. But just watch Jonny Lomax. He comes up to

:34:27. > :34:27.

:34:27. > :36:56.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

:36:56. > :37:04.competition over the years. He is The French gets it away under

:37:04. > :37:14.pressure. -- Brett Finch gets it away under pressure. Good kick, a

:37:14. > :37:14.

:37:14. > :38:08.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

:38:08. > :38:17.come. -- will come. This is it Roby. their opponent's half. Just keeping

:38:17. > :38:27.the pressure on St Helens now. the St Helens defence of recover as

:38:27. > :38:30.

:38:30. > :38:40.well enough. Charnley is underneath it. A great defensive work by Gary

:38:40. > :38:55.

:38:55. > :39:04.What have you made of it so far? think St Helens started fabulously

:39:05. > :39:14.well. But it was a boxing match. The one opportunity Wigan have had,

:39:15. > :39:17.

:39:18. > :39:27.they executed. St Helens got caught cold by one player. It was a poor

:39:28. > :39:35.

:39:35. > :39:42.start from Wigan by their standards. There is young Jack Hughes.

:39:42. > :39:49.Prescott. He did well to get it away. We can carry on regardless.

:39:49. > :39:59.This is an opportunity. It is going to be picked up by St Helens. A

:39:59. > :39:59.

:40:00. > :40:09.chance for them to clear their lines. What an opportunity.

:40:10. > :40:10.

:40:10. > :40:20.defence was not organised. Just watch. It was a poor offload. He

:40:20. > :40:41.

:40:41. > :40:51.cuts inside and stays there. That Roby swings it back to Lomax. He

:40:51. > :40:56.

:40:56. > :41:06.hammers it downfield. Tomkins is going to test the St Helens defence.

:41:06. > :41:15.Some injury news. Harrison Hansen dislocated a finger. The physio all

:41:15. > :41:22.came on and popped it back in place and he is back in the fray.

:41:22. > :41:32.dislocated finger. But it has been popped back in. Tomkins now. Here

:41:32. > :41:37.

:41:38. > :41:47.is a Jack Hughes. Chopped down. This is Brett Finch. Not the best

:41:48. > :41:48.

:41:48. > :41:58.of kicks. Another set of six here. Hough will take him. Wigan are

:41:58. > :42:06.knocking on the door again. Jeff Lima. They are creating overlaps

:42:07. > :42:16.now. He has taken it quickly. But he is not going to trick his way

:42:16. > :42:23.over. St Helens defenders have to wise for that. Brett Finch with the

:42:23. > :42:33.ball. Again they are in. It is the same channel that they found a way

:42:33. > :42:34.

:42:35. > :42:43.through. Wigan were behind, but now they are up. They have scored two

:42:43. > :42:53.tries. This is the highest quality of Wigan. They create the overlap,

:42:53. > :43:05.

:43:05. > :43:15.the support play is good. Very O'Loughlin in support. Very

:43:15. > :43:22.

:43:22. > :43:32.O'Loughlin. His coach will be a happy man having seen that. They

:43:32. > :44:05.

:44:06. > :44:15.Lauaki are creating havoc, creating second goal of the afternoon. Wigan

:44:16. > :44:37.

:44:37. > :44:44.looking to apply all their authority in the opening stages,

:44:44. > :44:54.but Wigan have managed to wrestle their way through that time. Can St

:44:54. > :44:58.

:44:58. > :45:08.Helens produce a response? Mike Rush has got to work it out. They

:45:08. > :45:11.

:45:11. > :45:15.are getting caught on the fringes of the defence. Quickly to his feet.

:45:15. > :45:25.Too quick for Mike McIlorum. And we know what happened last time.

:45:25. > :45:45.

:45:45. > :45:55.Another mistake. The momentum can little, both sides. -- read a

:45:55. > :46:02.

:46:02. > :46:11.little. -- breathe. A little glance around to see what lies ahead and

:46:11. > :46:20.he plays it back. Wrestled down well enough. Roby is here again.

:46:20. > :46:30.Another question of Wigan's defence. We can provide the answer. Lomax

:46:30. > :46:37.

:46:37. > :46:44.puts it away. And again, that build up of an interchange of passes. And

:46:44. > :46:54.it is a penalty. It was on the fifth tackle as well. Wigan have

:46:54. > :47:18.

:47:18. > :47:23.attack. Using the inside ball a lot. side and out of play. An

:47:23. > :47:33.opportunity given away. And on the first tackle as well. The cage

:47:33. > :47:35.

:47:35. > :47:40.macro will not be happy with that. -- the coaching staff. These men

:47:40. > :47:46.have been put in charge until the end of this season after the

:47:46. > :47:56.departure of Royce Simmons. The current Huddersfield coach will be

:47:56. > :47:58.

:47:58. > :48:08.the boss on a permanent basis next season. More on the red button. And

:48:08. > :48:26.

:48:26. > :48:32.our line. -- online. Harrison and wait. He tried to take it and

:48:32. > :48:41.it has given possession back to St Helens. Shenton is the man in

:48:41. > :48:51.possession. Chris Flannery drawing a couple of men. The shoulder of

:48:51. > :48:51.

:48:51. > :48:59.CRB check puts him down. -- Jeff Lima. He has a look and decides his

:48:59. > :49:06.next course of action and drops it into the hands of Clough. Hanging

:49:06. > :49:13.on the moment, the Wigan defence. Lomax with a big step but not quite

:49:13. > :49:21.big enough. He ran into the arms of Epalahame Lauaki. This is the last,

:49:21. > :49:29.I think. He tried to go for the 4th ball route through and has given

:49:29. > :49:38.possession away. Just watching James Roby and he is such a great

:49:38. > :49:44.player. Scanning all the time. Making his 250th appearance. It is

:49:44. > :49:50.a career in two parts because out of these appearances, 132 have been

:49:50. > :50:00.off the bench it. He was an understudy for a long time. He has

:50:00. > :50:16.

:50:16. > :50:21.had a lot of playing time. But menace but Wigan are short of the

:50:21. > :50:30.halfway line but stable get better than that because he was hanging on

:50:30. > :50:34.and the referee awards a penalty to Wigan. We can get to the touchline.

:50:34. > :50:40.I am joined by a recently retired Wigan player. What has been the

:50:40. > :50:44.secret for Wigan getting back into this match? They have got steel in

:50:45. > :50:49.their defence and they have defended pretty well. They have

:50:49. > :50:52.played well. I think the communication as well. They

:50:52. > :50:56.understand the position that they are in and they are pretty

:50:56. > :51:01.confident. Would you like to be out there on a day like this quest bark

:51:02. > :51:11.it would be fantastic today and a great day to play some rugby.

:51:12. > :51:12.

:51:12. > :51:20.like this?. Thanks, Amos. It would have been accident the spectacular

:51:20. > :51:26.but it has been quite mundane, hasn't it? -- absolutely

:51:26. > :51:34.spectacular. They are thinking, do not look for the miracle ball and

:51:34. > :51:40.build pressure. A little wave to his team mates. Maybe an apology

:51:40. > :51:47.and an indication that he needs to lift it up for a minute. You can

:51:47. > :51:57.hear them shouting, one a minute, one minute! If they put a one

:51:57. > :52:01.

:52:01. > :52:11.minute of big effort in defence, metre line. James Roby. McCarthy-

:52:11. > :52:13.

:52:13. > :52:19.Scarsbrook. Jonny Lomax. We have not seen much of Gareth Hock.

:52:19. > :52:25.came of a Wigan player, I think. It will be played on. He punches the

:52:25. > :52:35.air in frustration. That could have gone anywhere. So close to getting

:52:35. > :52:58.

:52:58. > :53:06.Another from 80 we heritage. -- 8 New Zealand heritage. The arm goes

:53:06. > :53:14.up from the referee to signal that is the last. Both eyes on the ball.

:53:14. > :53:24.A concert that taker of the high kick. Easy by Paul Wellens. -- a

:53:24. > :53:38.

:53:38. > :53:46.consumer to taker of the high kick. The referee says play arm. Just

:53:46. > :53:52.needed one more player on his shoulder. Aid downed kick. A jagged

:53:52. > :54:01.bounce and in St Helen's favour. They have to scrabble in the end

:54:01. > :54:06.before the tackle. What have you made of it so far? Able been

:54:06. > :54:11.looking back at the moment and thinking that they should come down

:54:11. > :54:15.on the right-hand side. If we look at Gareth Hock, the defensive line

:54:15. > :54:21.has not stayed to get back and they have caused problems. They lack a

:54:21. > :54:25.little bit of go forward in the ruck area. They have played a bit

:54:25. > :54:35.lateral and have played in the hands of Wigan and here we go again

:54:35. > :54:43.

:54:43. > :54:53.Gelling is not used to playing on the bright and he looks out of

:54:53. > :54:54.

:54:54. > :54:59.position. -- on the right-hand side. It is not to gelling. Saints have

:54:59. > :55:04.been very fortunate. Lomax is jumping out the line and you have

:55:04. > :55:09.got to communicate and hold the line and it's somebody is jumping

:55:09. > :55:13.out, they have got to get organised. We have not got a real pattern in

:55:14. > :55:23.the game but a lot of mistakes. A bit of momentum but it is not

:55:24. > :55:24.

:55:24. > :55:34.happening for either team. The defence is slowing down of the ruck.

:55:34. > :55:41.

:55:41. > :55:46.position he has given his team. Tomkins cannot keep hold. Going

:55:46. > :55:54.back to the middle. Jack Hughes between them, he drags him down.

:55:54. > :56:04.The momentum is with Saints. Lomax and it is taken by Paul Clough

:56:04. > :56:05.

:56:05. > :56:15.again. A good, strong defence by Wigan. A muscular breed is look for

:56:15. > :56:18.

:56:18. > :56:24.anxious to finish it but it is going to be stopped. Here comes the

:56:24. > :56:34.last. Taken it well enough, on a default. Not a high kick but taken

:56:34. > :56:48.

:56:48. > :56:58.on the believe. -- on the full. -- that has been given. A great chased

:56:58. > :56:59.

:56:59. > :57:05.by Jack Hughes. I am not sure what the message was. He was pointing at

:57:05. > :57:09.the 20 metre line. He was conveying a message that maybe he thought

:57:09. > :57:16.they were playing on and trying to get onside and they were on site.

:57:16. > :57:26.The penalty goes Wigan's way and they will look to find touch or

:57:26. > :57:49.

:57:49. > :57:59.Literally cleaned out. There must be a clash of heads. He must have a

:57:59. > :58:02.

:58:02. > :58:09.tough head. What a hit. I think that was a clash of heads. He can

:58:09. > :58:19.feel it on the top of his right eye. And a bit of a half-smile by Mike

:58:19. > :58:23.

:58:23. > :58:31.Rush. He enjoyed that. Mike Flanagan formerly of this parish.

:58:31. > :58:41.Totally accidental. He makes the tackle and he leaned into it. A

:58:41. > :58:42.

:58:42. > :58:46.sickening collision. Just accidental and not intentional. He

:58:46. > :58:52.lined up for the tackle and he stepped to the left and they

:58:52. > :58:56.stepped into each other. A clash of heads. I am sure Flanagan would

:58:56. > :59:00.have appreciated a tap on the back from one of his team-mates as well

:59:00. > :59:06.after a clash with one of the opponents. That is the last thing

:59:06. > :59:12.he would have wanted. A bit of a hold up because as is always the

:59:12. > :59:15.case, when we have a head, back and neck injury, the medical staff make

:59:15. > :59:23.absolutely sure it is OK before they move the player and take him

:59:23. > :59:30.away. We had a similar stoppage on this ground just a couple of weeks

:59:30. > :59:37.back and that actually involved are a referee. Best of luck for his

:59:37. > :59:43.recovery. I think he had a broken tibia or his ankle in a clash with

:59:43. > :59:51.a player, purely accidental. It was stopped for about six minutes and

:59:51. > :59:56.that was the first time I have seen he referee's stretchered off. A bit

:59:56. > :00:06.of a bit here. It is not how you would have wanted it but a bit of a

:00:06. > :00:12.

:00:12. > :00:17.lift for St Helens because they the field aided, being supported,

:00:17. > :00:22.you are not allowed to go back on the field. They want to protect

:00:22. > :00:29.people who have concussion from coming back on. It is an

:00:29. > :00:39.interesting one. He will go off on a stretcher, they will give him

:00:39. > :00:47.

:00:47. > :00:51.smelling salts, and then he will be because it will protect players.

:00:51. > :01:01.Everyone wants to be brave and bold, but they have to be cared for

:01:01. > :01:13.

:01:13. > :01:18.medically. It is a tough game. Very, An accidental clash of heads.

:01:18. > :01:26.law intent. He went in for the tackle, Epalahame Lauaki stepped

:01:26. > :01:36.into it. There is concern amongst the coaching staff for the player,

:01:36. > :01:36.

:01:36. > :01:45.but how do you change your tactics? Almost certainly an interchange

:01:45. > :01:54.less. And the man who caused it all has no problems. Five minutes of

:01:54. > :02:01.this half the remaining. It is nicely poised. Both sides have had

:02:01. > :02:11.the ascendancy at times. The potential is for a thrilling second

:02:11. > :02:11.

:02:11. > :02:21.half. McCarthy-Scarsbrook. This is Roby lining it up to his left. It

:02:21. > :02:21.

:02:21. > :02:30.is taken on by Magennis. Interchanges to Lomax. Here comes

:02:30. > :02:40.at the last. Lomax thought he could see a way through, but it closed up

:02:40. > :02:44.

:02:44. > :02:50.very quickly. He made the tackle. Wigan looking for some hard work

:02:50. > :03:00.from deep inside their own half to clear their lines. St Helens will

:03:00. > :03:01.

:03:01. > :03:04.be trying to stay here. What is the news on Epalahame Lauaki? He is

:03:04. > :03:14.looking extremely groggy and has been taken into the changing room

:03:14. > :03:14.

:03:14. > :03:24.for assessment. They think he may have broken his jaw. Here is Hock.

:03:24. > :03:24.

:03:24. > :03:34.Down that left channel. Certainly working that side. Another St

:03:34. > :03:36.

:03:36. > :03:46.Helens player Darren on that side. He does not look to help the either,

:03:46. > :04:05.

:04:06. > :04:15.Jon Wilkin. This is Gary Wheeler. - pack. It is a real tribute to the

:04:16. > :04:41.

:04:41. > :04:51.right hand side. They targeted at Jonny Lomax. Here they go. Good off

:04:51. > :04:55.

:04:55. > :05:03.load. Anthony Gelling again. It has been knocked on. By this St Helens

:05:03. > :05:12.player, not to the Wigan man. is play on. I think he is very

:05:12. > :05:20.unlucky there. That is the wrong decision. They did extremely well.

:05:20. > :05:30.He was injured a few moments ago, they targeted him. First mistake by

:05:30. > :05:53.

:05:53. > :06:00.former Irish international. I think St Helens will be happy. Jonny

:06:00. > :06:08.Lomax is calling again, bring defenders over. Here is Hock,

:06:08. > :06:18.Tomkins, a good tackle by Lomax. He stemmed the flow of that move. But

:06:18. > :06:18.

:06:19. > :06:27.Wigan it still down that left at Channel. Great play by Wigan there.

:06:27. > :06:37.Good passing. Inside ball by Brett Finch. There is the mistake by

:06:37. > :06:38.

:06:38. > :06:44.Anthony Gelling. They look very dangerous. The hooter will sound on

:06:44. > :06:54.what has been a fascinating first half. The St Helens started off as

:06:54. > :07:05.

:07:05. > :07:11.a real threat, but Wigan responded If you are a rugby league fan,

:07:11. > :07:21.there is only one way to celebrate your wedding, come here. St Helens

:07:21. > :07:23.

:07:23. > :07:33.started very well. Wellens scored his 118th try. But Sam Tomkins went

:07:33. > :07:34.

:07:34. > :07:44.through with a bit of class to put Wigan ahead. The half-time score

:07:44. > :07:49.

:07:49. > :07:56.Let's get the reaction from the pitch side. The game has ebbed and

:07:56. > :08:04.flowed in the great tradition of Saints against Wigan. I think his

:08:05. > :08:09.St Helens came out for the first 15 minutes. They had to take all their

:08:09. > :08:17.opportunities and missed the kick at goal. But it is a real credit to

:08:17. > :08:24.Wigan. They were able to get over the try-line and have dominated the

:08:24. > :08:31.middle part of their half. For the last five or 10 minutes of the game,

:08:31. > :08:35.it was a bit of an arm wrestle. Wigan have played in the way that

:08:35. > :08:45.you outlined at the start of the game. Yes, it is hard to defend

:08:45. > :08:49.against that. It is so hard to defend against that type of play.

:08:49. > :08:59.They do it so well. It has been bruising at times. We always expect

:08:59. > :08:59.

:08:59. > :09:07.that, Epalahame Lauaki's injury is sickening. Yes, and they have lost

:09:07. > :09:17.one of their bigger powerhouse players. That might play in St

:09:17. > :09:31.

:09:31. > :09:36.Helens favour. If we take a look at I just want to see a quick good

:09:36. > :09:44.luck to the couple who are getting married during half-time. It is

:09:44. > :09:49.happening on the other side of the pitch from us. They have got 10

:09:49. > :09:55.minutes to get it over and done with! What did you make of that

:09:55. > :09:59.first half? The statistics say that St Helens have had quite a lot of

:09:59. > :10:06.the ball and quite a lot of territory. I think they will be

:10:06. > :10:15.disappointed. They have to build pressure, be clinical and have

:10:15. > :10:23.composure. I think they have lacked composure in their attack. But

:10:23. > :10:31.Wigan's experienced players have not always got it right. You can

:10:31. > :10:41.see Shaun Wane for there. They have not had the continuity and floor

:10:41. > :10:48.

:10:48. > :10:55.that they are normally half. -- flow that they normally have.

:10:55. > :11:02.needed to have more control over the ball than they have had. They

:11:02. > :11:08.have only used half of the ball. Saints need to put quality on the

:11:08. > :11:17.end of all the possession they have had. Both teams seemed to be having

:11:17. > :11:21.a crack at the opposition's right hand side. That is what St Helens

:11:21. > :11:29.have to do in the next half. Wigan started with a lot of mistakes. Was

:11:29. > :11:33.there a reason? Where the nervous because it is a big match? It could

:11:33. > :11:43.be lack of direction, it could be nerves. It could be an element of

:11:43. > :11:45.

:11:45. > :11:51.laziness as well. Look at Shaun Wane there. St Helens got the first

:11:51. > :12:01.try on the board. Paul Wellens, their longest serving player on the

:12:01. > :12:02.

:12:02. > :12:12.pitch. It was on the last tackle. The bones of the ball gives them a

:12:12. > :12:12.

:12:12. > :12:18.bit of luck. -- the bounce. They have got more people in the frame

:12:18. > :12:24.which is good for St Helens. I was really surprised at that kick.

:12:24. > :12:31.Jonny Lomax was out there practising for ages. Well, I have

:12:31. > :12:38.seen at Tiger Woods miss a few over the years. That is a pressure. That

:12:38. > :12:48.is reflected in their game a little bit. It might make the defence at

:12:48. > :12:51.

:12:51. > :13:01.the end. Those extra points can be vitally important. Let's have a

:13:01. > :13:12.

:13:12. > :13:22.Lomax drums out of the line. You need a line and you need to make

:13:22. > :13:33.

:13:33. > :13:39.ball. It is easy for somebody like Tomkins to get in there. He looks

:13:39. > :13:49.like a thoroughbred racehorse. coach, you tell them to stay

:13:49. > :13:49.

:13:49. > :13:54.together, and if you look at Lomax, he makes an early decision. He

:13:54. > :14:03.works with the inside defender. That is what causes the problem.

:14:03. > :14:06.is such an experienced player already. Sean O'Loughlin has great

:14:07. > :14:16.experience. I am sure he will be adding his voice to what they are

:14:17. > :14:18.

:14:18. > :14:27.being told. This is the second attempt and they get it right.

:14:27. > :14:34.drags of the defenders in. The kick going to the left hand side. If you

:14:34. > :14:38.look at this try again. Hock attract defenders. But he has

:14:38. > :14:48.agreed offload. But it is the anticipation and the timing of Sean

:14:48. > :14:49.

:14:49. > :14:57.O'Loughlin. That is where a good experienced captain knows it is an

:14:57. > :15:01.opportunity. That is a good point. Hock attracts attention. He was not

:15:01. > :15:09.involved in the play. But because he is such a big and talented

:15:09. > :15:19.player, it will free up other players. The smart play comes from

:15:19. > :15:21.

:15:21. > :15:25.Sean O'Loughlin. He times his run The hardest thing about Gareth Hock

:15:25. > :15:30.is his size. You try to create a battle for him to win and if he

:15:30. > :15:35.does not, he gets the offload. That will cause problems in the second

:15:35. > :15:40.half and he will come back on the inside. What you are trying to do

:15:40. > :15:46.is win the match up, or try and create the big battles that you can

:15:46. > :15:52.win. We both rate Gareth Hock as one of the top three backs in the

:15:52. > :15:57.world. And you are hoping for a lucky break and you want the person

:15:57. > :15:59.getting the ball to be the fastest. Wellens is not necessarily bad but

:15:59. > :16:05.Wellens is not necessarily bad but it is the beginning of a great

:16:05. > :16:15.break. The great part of his career is his position play which is

:16:15. > :16:16.

:16:16. > :16:21.outstanding. I think he has been pressured to many times. It is like,

:16:21. > :16:25.run, run! But on the other part of run, run! But on the other part of

:16:25. > :16:30.it, I think they have given him a little bit too much. But I bet he

:16:30. > :16:34.would like to get hold of the hearts a few times and say, we must

:16:34. > :16:42.finish the six better and apply pressure and we can turn territory

:16:42. > :16:46.into points. But for all the lack of speed, he has never had

:16:46. > :16:53.outstanding pace but he thinks twice as quick as anybody else and

:16:53. > :17:00.that is why he is vitally important. Speed of thought is as important a

:17:00. > :17:04.speed of foot, apparently! Leeds speed of foot, apparently! Leeds

:17:04. > :17:12.Rhinos of calls are already through to the semi-finals. Wigan and St

:17:12. > :17:16.Helens are fighting to join them. Then, Warrington play Catalan.

:17:16. > :17:24.Huddersfield and London Broncos are the 4th of the semi-final matches.

:17:25. > :17:34.That will be on BBC Two tomorrow just after 2 o'clock. We continue

:17:35. > :17:44.

:17:44. > :17:50.on the red button after today's and we have got a round-up of the

:17:50. > :17:57.Premier League action and the final day of the Premier League seasoned.

:17:57. > :18:07.Manchester City or Manchester United? And you can see the great

:18:07. > :18:07.

:18:07. > :18:15.Manchester run on Sunday on BBC Two as well. St Helens thinking about

:18:15. > :18:23.how to make up that deficit. Wigan in front but will baby -- but will

:18:23. > :18:26.they be far enough ahead? They will have the same emphasis at the start

:18:26. > :18:34.of the second half and they will want its dead and buried in 10

:18:34. > :18:42.minutes. It will be a big 10 minutes. It's Saints are still in

:18:42. > :18:51.it after 10 minutes, anxiety might creep into Wigan's game. And a

:18:52. > :18:57.couple have just got married in the hospitality boxes. They have

:18:58. > :19:03.hopefully had time to get ready and watch the second half. They have

:19:03. > :19:08.about 40 weddings every year here in Wigan and this was booked in

:19:08. > :19:18.October. They did not know the Challenge Cup dates and that is why

:19:18. > :19:26.

:19:26. > :19:32.it has ended up being today it. It is anybody's game. This rivalry

:19:32. > :19:42.stretches back to the 1890s. As long as they play this game, we

:19:42. > :19:42.

:19:42. > :19:48.will always have this rivalry. And how is it going? Jonathon? It has

:19:48. > :19:56.been a bit of a stop and start game. We have not had any real pattern

:19:56. > :20:04.and momentum. I think they have slowed down be played. They have

:20:04. > :20:11.tackled hard and we have not seen a lot of James Roby. But it that

:20:11. > :20:17.happens, anything can happen. But Wigan will come out with a big and

:20:17. > :20:23.explosive game. They need a couple of scores. St Helens painfully

:20:23. > :20:29.aware of how momentum can influence the game. They almost let it slip

:20:29. > :20:39.against Widnes. How many did vacancy in the last 15 minutes? But

:20:39. > :20:44.

:20:44. > :20:53.they just about managed to hang on. with a quick burst of scoring. They

:20:53. > :21:03.must have a full concentration as a start this second half. -- as they

:21:03. > :21:24.

:21:24. > :21:34.Tomkins pushing Flanagan a wave. -- punishing kick if they can. Giving

:21:34. > :21:59.

:21:59. > :22:07.chase. It seems he has recovered in the early exchanges. He will pick

:22:07. > :22:16.up and run off to his right. But he cannot get it away. They want to

:22:16. > :22:22.get the kick and Lomax does get the kick up and hide. He has done it

:22:22. > :22:32.well and he has pinned him down nicely. Damian Johnson on the

:22:32. > :22:33.

:22:33. > :22:41.touchline. The coaching staff have been praising Wigan's defences but

:22:41. > :22:51.errors in the second half there. The Saints coaching staff said they

:22:51. > :22:59.

:22:59. > :23:09.have got to change and convert it away. It is a bit of an arm-

:23:09. > :23:22.

:23:22. > :23:32.wrestling contest, isn't it? Going The Wigan chairman. Formerly of

:23:32. > :23:38.

:23:38. > :23:48.looking for, Wigan. Have a look as they pick up the tempo mouth. --

:23:48. > :23:56.

:23:56. > :24:06.now. The ball has been dislodged. The St Helens chairman. All the big

:24:06. > :24:19.

:24:19. > :24:29.was not unlucky but down right loose. Unforced errors but here he

:24:29. > :24:36.comes. Setting a platform. Mike McIlorum picks it up. Tomkins

:24:36. > :24:42.coming from behind. That was a great tackle. Fantastic. He came

:24:42. > :24:48.inside and a tackle had to be made. Trying to wrap it up but a penalty,

:24:48. > :24:58.offside. Such a difference would be quick playing of the ball. The

:24:58. > :25:07.

:25:07. > :25:17.mistake and the penalty. Very, very anticipation. St Helens escaping.

:25:17. > :25:21.

:25:21. > :25:31.They are working the right hands side's defence. Good running by

:25:31. > :25:31.

:25:31. > :25:36.Makinson. We have got an update on the injuries situation. He will not

:25:36. > :25:41.play any further part, the players stretchered off. The doctor has

:25:41. > :25:51.given several stitches inside his mouth but he has not had any jawed

:25:51. > :25:59.

:25:59. > :26:05.forward. Well read by Mike McIlorum. A short pass. Rolling back and

:26:05. > :26:15.McIlorum simply waiting for him. That was certainly an offside

:26:15. > :26:22.

:26:22. > :26:32.position because he did not attempt but eventually he did. Jeff Lima

:26:32. > :26:33.

:26:33. > :26:43.driving. A two scored difference in Wigan's favour at the moment. Hock

:26:43. > :26:53.

:26:53. > :27:03.offering himself again. A little them on by himself down the middle.

:27:03. > :27:04.

:27:04. > :27:14.Finch. It has been taken in mid- air but lost again by Gelling.

:27:14. > :27:17.

:27:17. > :27:27.good effort and a good job. Makinson gets above them. Penalty,

:27:27. > :27:31.

:27:31. > :27:41.St Helen's. We can see what Mike Rush has said. They did not make

:27:41. > :27:42.

:27:42. > :27:52.the most of Wigan's mistakes. swinging arm from Hock. That is why

:27:52. > :28:17.

:28:17. > :28:22.Quick and terrific hands by Roby at. Flannery holding the ball. I did

:28:22. > :28:28.not know why but it was dropped. He will be disappointed because we

:28:28. > :28:38.just had a hint of something developing. Flannery did well. He

:28:38. > :28:54.

:28:54. > :29:04.second half but still increasing. We have not had any dominance in

:29:04. > :29:14.

:29:14. > :29:17.initial burst. -- stepping inside. Jeff Lima. All quite

:29:17. > :29:27.straightforward at the moment. Looking for a bit of territory, a

:29:27. > :29:43.

:29:43. > :29:48.bit of momentum to work it in their beaten Wellens and he has beaten

:29:48. > :29:54.all of them and he has put Wigan in a commanding position! Are a

:29:54. > :30:00.wonderful individual try by Finch. The man from Melbourne with a

:30:00. > :30:07.devastating run. That is what these teams can do. Stopping, starting

:30:07. > :30:17.and a bit of individual magic. He can see the gap and he throws the

:30:17. > :30:23.

:30:23. > :30:33.dummy. Just stepping outside. Just lovely dummy. That is a great try.

:30:33. > :30:35.

:30:35. > :30:40.Just watch at the dummy run as it comes up. Just that split-second.

:30:40. > :30:45.Brett Finch at spots it and throws a dummy. A lovely step on the

:30:45. > :30:55.outside of Wellens. That is the kind of thing you used to do before

:30:55. > :31:18.

:31:18. > :31:27.the rheumatism upset him! -- set kick. Wigan the lead as a result of

:31:27. > :31:37.this magical moment by Brett Finch. That is a dummy run. Just holds up

:31:37. > :31:58.

:31:58. > :32:07.a Shaun Magennis. Allows him to get just have a sense here that they

:32:07. > :32:17.can take this game by the scruff of the neck. -- or we can just have a

:32:17. > :32:20.

:32:20. > :32:30.sense -- Wigan. Brett Finch making Paul Wellens work hard. That was a

:32:30. > :32:31.

:32:31. > :32:41.good kick and chase. What do you make of that last try? That was a

:32:41. > :32:43.

:32:43. > :32:51.fantastic try. The game has been a little bit scrappy after half-time.

:32:51. > :32:59.This is a dangerous time for St Helens. They need to make sure that

:32:59. > :33:09.they get straight back into the game. Indication from the referee

:33:09. > :33:10.

:33:10. > :33:17.that Lomax's needs to do something here. -- Lomax needs. That is a

:33:17. > :33:27.very solid St Helens line. Helens need to pick it up a little

:33:27. > :33:42.

:33:42. > :33:52.bit. Pick up on unforced errors in has looked a little bit lost on the

:33:52. > :33:58.

:33:58. > :34:08.left-hand wing. Tomkins will stop - - it Tomkins. That is a difficult

:34:08. > :34:08.

:34:08. > :34:18.pass. A difficult position that he found himself in. Just watch. As he

:34:18. > :34:22.

:34:22. > :34:32.goes down, he throws the past just a little bit law to Josh Charnley.

:34:32. > :34:34.

:34:34. > :34:44.-- pass low to Josh Charnley. is a key period of the game. It is

:34:44. > :34:44.

:34:44. > :34:54.by no means won or lost. St Helens need to respond quickly. Here comes

:34:54. > :35:13.

:35:13. > :35:18.Flanagan. Lomax. Shenton. Lance That is a super kick. Put Wigan on

:35:18. > :35:28.the back foot. They will get possession here. But they are

:35:28. > :35:39.

:35:39. > :35:49.having to work from deep in their your thoughts and so far? At the

:35:49. > :35:51.

:35:51. > :35:58.moment, at St Helens have not won the rucker area. -- ruck. They are

:35:58. > :36:04.being nullified at the moment. The forwards are not winning the battle

:36:04. > :36:14.to create the momentum. The need to win that if they are going to get

:36:14. > :36:17.

:36:17. > :36:25.into the game. And the need to make more use of Roby. Here comes

:36:25. > :36:35.McIlorum. Just making the momentum work. Right down the middle at the

:36:35. > :36:36.

:36:36. > :36:46.moment. They will settle for that high kick towards Anthony Gelling.

:36:46. > :36:52.

:36:52. > :37:00.That was an opportunity there. It was an inventive kick. Yes, it was.

:37:00. > :37:10.Nobody really called for it. On a different day, Fortune would have

:37:10. > :37:14.

:37:14. > :37:24.favoured him. But not today. It is very scrappy now. They are not

:37:24. > :37:26.

:37:26. > :37:33.winning in the tackle area. They are nullifying a James Roby. Roby

:37:33. > :37:41.again. Lance Hohaia. Looking for touch. An opportunity for Tomkins

:37:41. > :37:51.to run it clear. Jonny Lomax. Two young players who will be starring

:37:51. > :37:53.

:37:53. > :38:03.for Great Britain for a long time to come. It is a matter of what we

:38:03. > :38:05.

:38:05. > :38:15.were talking about. A lot of credit has to go to Wigan's defence. They

:38:15. > :38:19.

:38:19. > :38:29.are forcing St Helens to let go the ball early. Sean O'Loughlin. Wigan

:38:29. > :38:32.

:38:32. > :38:38.are controlling the game at their own pace now. Wellens picks it up.

:38:38. > :38:48.No easy route here for St Helens. But something special here from

:38:48. > :38:49.

:38:49. > :38:59.Makinson. Tomkins just about has the pace to hold on. Fantastic by

:38:59. > :39:06.

:39:06. > :39:15.Machen some. Have they got their overlap? -- Makinson. Lance Hohaia

:39:15. > :39:24.wanted to take it quickly, but the referee says no. What a fantastic

:39:24. > :39:34.run by Thomas Makinson. St Helens need to score quickly. Just over 20

:39:34. > :39:56.

:39:56. > :40:05.minutes left to play. Wigan's line pick it up. A chance for St Helens.

:40:05. > :40:15.Robbie again. This is Shenton. Brett Finch holding on. Restricting

:40:15. > :40:15.

:40:15. > :40:25.the options. Still at tackles to go. The referee says yes. That is a big

:40:25. > :40:49.

:40:49. > :40:57.score now. Wellens in the middle of here. If St Helens score, they are

:40:57. > :41:07.back in the game. If we get a can hold on, it might dampen at St

:41:07. > :41:11.

:41:11. > :41:21.Helens' spirits. That is a big tackle by Harrison Hansen. Out it

:41:21. > :41:31.goes to Lomax. Out two-wheeler. Over the line. Has he touched it

:41:31. > :41:35.

:41:35. > :41:45.down? -- out to Wheeler. That is a great effort. The referee is having

:41:45. > :41:45.

:41:45. > :42:46.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

:42:46. > :42:56.there. He might be thinking of a penalty try here. The left hand

:42:56. > :42:56.

:42:56. > :43:57.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

:43:57. > :44:07.one decision. What is he going to trying to score the try. The Wigan

:44:07. > :44:09.

:44:09. > :44:19.man has knocked the ball out. was an argument for that being a

:44:19. > :44:24.

:44:24. > :44:32.penalty. But I think the defender is given a bit of leeway. St Helens

:44:32. > :44:42.will be encouraged by how close they came, knowing that they have

:44:42. > :44:56.

:44:56. > :45:06.at Wigan are teetering a little - Hock. That has been brewing from

:45:06. > :45:13.

:45:13. > :45:23.and here it comes! He would not want to be in the middle of that,

:45:23. > :45:27.

:45:27. > :45:37.would you? He is going to have a word with both of them. There he is

:45:37. > :45:39.

:45:39. > :45:49.not, Mike McIlorum. That is a penalty. He was the man to be drawn

:45:49. > :45:59.out. There is no need for you to come in, OK? But it is a penalty to

:45:59. > :46:06.

:46:06. > :46:16.St Helens. It remains a really time, Saints. But they need to do

:46:16. > :46:29.

:46:29. > :46:37.whip a hole in the defence but not quite at. -- not quite. He is

:46:37. > :46:47.looking to get it away and has it been knocked on? It has been.

:46:47. > :46:50.

:46:50. > :47:00.defence again by Wigan. Very, very aggressive. Just watch. Gareth Hock

:47:00. > :47:00.

:47:00. > :47:08.goes in. Big hit. Knocked forward. Pressure relieved it. Giving

:47:08. > :47:18.themselves a pat on the back, the Wigan defenders, before subsiding.

:47:18. > :47:38.

:47:38. > :47:48.-- for surviving. Two try is, two having the ball knocked away.

:47:48. > :47:49.

:47:49. > :47:59.Prescott. McIlorum. Jack Hughes. They have got to defend a lot

:47:59. > :48:06.

:48:06. > :48:11.round. Looking for touch. Looking to put Saints on the back foot.

:48:11. > :48:18.Wellens was not sure if he should go for it or not. It was awkward,

:48:18. > :48:28.but he takes it cleanly. Wigan have got a chance to move up quicker.

:48:28. > :48:50.

:48:50. > :48:55.that is what Wigan have got to sort out. They are in control of the

:48:55. > :49:01.game at the moment. When they have got possession, when the tackle

:49:02. > :49:06.comes, good kicking but the discipline has been very poor.

:49:06. > :49:14.has been a heady spell of possession Saints are enjoying at

:49:14. > :49:24.the moment. They are doing a lot of their playing inside the Wigan half

:49:24. > :49:35.

:49:35. > :49:38.as well. But they need more than angles. Wellens. He has been the

:49:38. > :49:46.strike runner but they need somebody to help him because they

:49:46. > :49:54.have got him covered. He has run into the dummy. Up he gets. They

:49:54. > :49:59.are going nowhere at the moment. They need variety it. They need

:49:59. > :50:07.something invented. He is the man that can create it but it has gone

:50:07. > :50:13.through. He has tackled and here they are going. Stopped. Stolen?

:50:13. > :50:20.Stolen. I think that was frustration more than anything else.

:50:21. > :50:30.A two Magne tackled. As clear as you will see. -- a two manner

:50:31. > :50:43.

:50:43. > :50:47.tackle. -- Player tackle. That is actually in an offside position.

:50:48. > :50:57.Saints dominating with possession and territory but it is turning

:50:58. > :51:16.

:51:16. > :51:26.that into points that has been the Could carry. -- could carry. --

:51:26. > :51:34.

:51:34. > :51:42.winning the race, Shenton. He got right into his face. That is what

:51:42. > :51:50.the referee is saying. He was a bit high with his arms. We can see what

:51:50. > :51:59.he was trying to do. Anything above the shoulders, that is it. They

:51:59. > :52:09.have decided to go for goal as well. That will be three scores them. Two

:52:09. > :52:35.

:52:35. > :52:45.points takes them away. Join us for for the semi-finals. Catalan,

:52:45. > :52:52.

:52:52. > :53:02.through it. He has certainly got the distance and more than just

:53:02. > :53:03.

:53:03. > :53:10.that, the range as well. Right in between. They believe. That is an

:53:10. > :53:19.early celebration of victory. A big that they are too far back in the

:53:19. > :53:24.game. They have got to be more clinical in attack. But it's still

:53:24. > :53:34.plenty of time for this to turn around. -- but there is still

:53:34. > :54:09.

:54:09. > :54:19.nice and simple. Nothing too fancy in this set. Tomkins puts the kick

:54:19. > :54:19.

:54:19. > :54:29.down. He is there in support. Can he produce something magical here?

:54:29. > :54:41.

:54:42. > :54:47.Wigan making sure nothing is given foot. They are going wide to early.

:54:47. > :54:53.You have got to earn the right. Get on the front foot. They have not

:54:53. > :54:58.been able to do that and that has been dead big problem. A penalty

:54:59. > :55:05.for Wigan. -- that has been a big problem. And he has given away

:55:05. > :55:15.another 10 metres because he has said something to the referee. We

:55:15. > :55:16.

:55:16. > :55:26.will see what he has to say. cannot say that, OK? I control the

:55:26. > :55:37.

:55:37. > :55:47.game and you cannot go whacking him not the back 10, Perry. A try for

:55:47. > :55:49.

:55:49. > :55:55.Wigan and he would think it was game over. Finch. Tomkins. Tomkins,

:55:55. > :56:04.with his defining style, going to be right but right into the St

:56:04. > :56:14.Helen's defence. Three gone, three left in this particular set. 10

:56:14. > :56:23.minutes remaining. He grabs it but loses it. His fingertips have been

:56:23. > :56:33.taken in the first instance. That was very good tackling. He hits the

:56:33. > :56:54.

:56:54. > :57:00.miracle. The Wigan chanting has begun. A sense that they are

:57:00. > :57:05.getting closer and closer to the semi-finals. The first time in 12

:57:05. > :57:13.years that Saints have not featured in a Challenge Cup semi-final. They

:57:14. > :57:18.have been in all the previous 11. They have been an almost permanent

:57:18. > :57:25.feature in the semi-finals but not this year, it would seem, unless

:57:26. > :57:35.they can produce something magical in what remains. Going backwards at

:57:36. > :57:48.

:57:48. > :57:57.was like a speed bump. Getting possession back. Again, we have not

:57:57. > :58:07.got a platform here for Saints. That is the roaring you can hear

:58:07. > :58:08.

:58:08. > :58:18.down below us. Acclamation by the Wigan supporters. And here comes

:58:18. > :58:25.

:58:25. > :58:33.Wigan. They did not need flamboyance at this stage. They are

:58:33. > :58:39.playing very conservatively now. And what about that for a release?!

:58:39. > :58:45.That was quite clearly forward. That would have been sensational.

:58:45. > :58:50.He is winning absolutely everything. He is one of these players, that

:58:50. > :58:59.you can imagine will have some really fantastic moments to put on

:58:59. > :59:05.his record. But making quite a few mistakes. Saints have to move it,

:59:05. > :59:15.to get on with it. Wheeler with the dummy. Two defenders to make a real

:59:15. > :59:16.

:59:17. > :59:21.break. Roby. A Wilkin up. They have got a chance. The left-hand side.

:59:22. > :59:30.He will need support on be inside. He had it. He got a hands to it and

:59:30. > :59:37.knocked it backwards. Very good defence by the Wigan scrum-half.

:59:37. > :59:42.great break by Francis Meli. have got an opportunity for Gelling.

:59:42. > :59:52.On the left-hand side but well- stocked. He did not look like he

:59:52. > :59:53.

:59:53. > :00:03.was going to get away. He has lost it, Shenton. Knocked away and

:00:03. > :00:18.

:00:18. > :00:22.against frustration and a penalty fantastic start by St Helens. They

:00:22. > :00:32.took the lead. The set of as if they had the bit between their

:00:32. > :00:33.

:00:34. > :00:43.teeth. -- they set off. But Wigan have taken their chances when they

:00:44. > :00:44.

:00:44. > :00:54.were offered. This looks like the end of the run for St Helens' Cup

:00:54. > :00:59.

:00:59. > :01:09.runner this year. -- cup run. Finch are just throws the ball to

:01:09. > :01:13.

:01:13. > :01:23.the flower in disgust. -- to the floor. It could be a repeat of last

:01:23. > :01:23.

:01:23. > :02:12.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

:02:12. > :02:22.year's final, Wigan against Leeds. Just inside Wigan territory. Lomax

:02:22. > :02:26.

:02:26. > :02:36.at two Wellens -- Lomax into Wellens. A direct approach

:02:36. > :02:47.

:02:47. > :02:55.attempted. Soliola has been quiet Here is Lomax now. It St Helens

:02:55. > :03:05.looking for a final push. But we can survive and have possession. --

:03:05. > :03:19.

:03:19. > :03:29.we -- Wigan. You have the honour of selecting the man of the match. For

:03:29. > :03:34.

:03:34. > :03:44.me, he has controlled the game. Brett Finch is my man of the match.

:03:44. > :04:03.

:04:03. > :04:13.He waited to us there. Saying thank that has been a problem. Roby,

:04:13. > :04:17.

:04:17. > :04:27.Wellens, Laffranchi. And Brett Finch is at the sponsor's man of

:04:27. > :04:32.the match as well. One last thrust here. The game is over surely?

:04:32. > :04:42.Laffranchi. Trying to pull that Wigan defence by pretending he was

:04:42. > :04:44.

:04:44. > :04:50.going to pass. -- fool. It has been knocked on. Wigan have possession

:04:50. > :04:53.back again. That has been a large part of the story of the game. St

:04:53. > :05:03.Helens have had possession but they have not been able to provide the

:05:03. > :05:04.

:05:04. > :05:14.cutting edge. A classical they are big game for these sides. -- Derby

:05:14. > :05:15.

:05:15. > :05:25.game. It has been a scrappy game. Wigan have taken opportunities.

:05:25. > :05:27.

:05:27. > :05:31.Helens defenders were looking the other way. John we may not be happy

:05:31. > :05:41.with the performance, but will be happy with the result. -- Shaun

:05:41. > :06:06.

:06:06. > :06:15.McIlorum. Going for a drop goal. He has not scored many of those in his

:06:15. > :06:25.career, and he has not scored that one. A rather unsatisfactory end to

:06:25. > :06:47.

:06:47. > :06:53.some lovely runs today. Lomax and Wellens, they have done most of the

:06:53. > :07:03.running. But they need something more. The Wigan defence has coped

:07:03. > :07:03.

:07:03. > :07:13.easily with them today. Here comes Laffranchi. The offloaded to

:07:13. > :07:48.

:07:48. > :07:54.Wellens. He put the kick through They have beaten a St Helens. That

:07:54. > :07:58.is what matters in these parts. And they are now in the semi-final of

:07:58. > :08:03.the Carnegie Challenge Cup. One step away from a return to Wembley

:08:03. > :08:11.Stadium. St Helens are denied up a semi-final for the first time in 12

:08:11. > :08:21.years. Wigan have stop them getting there. Not a vintage game, but a

:08:21. > :08:29.

:08:29. > :08:36.victory for Wigan. They have beaten You can share your thoughts on that

:08:36. > :08:44.match by e-mailing us. We will get as much a reaction as Lee Camp on

:08:44. > :08:51.BBC One, but we will carry on on the red button. Let's get some

:08:51. > :08:57.reaction. A deserved win for Wigan. They were too strong on the day. It

:08:57. > :09:07.was difficult for St Helens to play the way that they wanted to play.

:09:07. > :09:09.

:09:09. > :09:15.Defensively, Wigan were too strong. They got forward far too easily. In

:09:15. > :09:21.at the second half, Saints at most of the possession, but it was not

:09:21. > :09:28.enough. Unfortunately, they could not get any leverage in the ruck

:09:28. > :09:37.area. St Helens got quite a few breaks in the game, but they could

:09:37. > :09:44.not finish it off. Man of the Match is Brett Finch and he is talking to

:09:44. > :09:50.us now. Congratulations. What was there a secret to your success

:09:50. > :09:58.today? Just the desire to win the game. Obviously, execution was not

:09:58. > :10:06.great, we kept are dropping the ball. You do not start very well,

:10:06. > :10:14.did St Helens take you by surprise? Not really. They put us under some

:10:14. > :10:21.pressure. But our desire to work for each other made the difference.

:10:21. > :10:31.Top we three you try. I do not know what happened there. -- talk me

:10:31. > :10:32.

:10:32. > :10:42.through. We still have some work to do. But getting down to the last

:10:42. > :10:53.

:10:53. > :11:03.four it gives us a chance. It will be another tough run. Well done.

:11:03. > :11:06.

:11:06. > :11:16.just want to say hello to my family who are watching at home. There

:11:16. > :11:19.

:11:19. > :11:26.were times during the game when we were not good with the ball.

:11:26. > :11:35.the important thing to keep some of their key men quiet? Yes, if you

:11:35. > :11:38.let them do what they want, you can get into trouble. It was not a

:11:38. > :11:48.vintage quarter-final in many respects, but the result is

:11:48. > :11:53.

:11:53. > :12:03.everything? Yes, the winger is what counts. -- win. Thomas Leuluai is

:12:03. > :12:03.

:12:03. > :12:09.here, beating a few scars -- carrying a few scars. How did you

:12:09. > :12:19.come back from that's great start by St Helens? You just have to try

:12:19. > :12:20.

:12:20. > :12:27.to get back in the game. It was a tough start. Do you think this will

:12:27. > :12:34.be you here? You have got to be the big teams to win it. It is early

:12:34. > :12:41.days. We have another big game to get to the final.

:12:41. > :12:50.You can tell how much it matters to them. The players do not care about

:12:50. > :12:59.style, they just want to get through to the semi-finals. Some of

:12:59. > :13:04.the players have experienced Wembley, the thrill of it. This is

:13:04. > :13:12.a great lesson for St Helens, they will learn a lot from this. They

:13:12. > :13:19.have a lot of younger players. They have got two new coaches. Wigan's

:13:19. > :13:23.experience help them to win the match. Credit to them. It looked as

:13:23. > :13:33.if Wigan would run away with a match. But St Helens fought hard.

:13:33. > :13:37.

:13:37. > :13:46.Let's have a look at Brett Finch's try. The pass is executed, giving

:13:46. > :13:54.you Brett Finch a clear run. It took the game away from St Helens.

:13:54. > :14:01.We are talking about an attacking player here. Wigan were strong

:14:01. > :14:11.today. St Helens blew their opportunities, we get a good

:14:11. > :14:11.

:14:11. > :14:19.vantage of the opportunities the had. -- to good advantage. He is

:14:19. > :14:29.out of contract at the end of the season. Yes, and he is still single,

:14:29. > :14:32.

:14:32. > :14:36.or not married anyway. He has played for a lot of big clubs. On

:14:36. > :14:44.the back end of that, he has been instrumental in those clubs being

:14:44. > :14:50.successful. But I do not think they could afford to lose Thomas Leuluai

:14:50. > :14:56.and Brett Finch. Players like playing with him because he

:14:56. > :14:59.understands the game and makes you feel comfortable around him.

:14:59. > :15:09.Helens had their chances. There were a couple of good breaks in the

:15:09. > :15:14.

:15:14. > :15:18.second half. Let's have a look at turned the world class players and

:15:18. > :15:24.defenders inside out. He has made the base of the break. This is as

:15:25. > :15:32.good as anything we have seen in the game from Makinson. And he

:15:32. > :15:40.makes sure he gets his man down. And nearly breaking through, his

:15:40. > :15:45.opponent. You have got to take these opportunities on both sides.

:15:45. > :15:48.Wigan took their chances. Saints Wigan took their chances. Saints

:15:48. > :15:57.had chances but did not take them and that is the difference. A we

:15:57. > :16:03.have got more to discuss but we will do that on the red button. We

:16:03. > :16:12.will do that on the red button. We will hear from the team. And

:16:12. > :16:16.will hear from the team. And tomorrow... Manchester will have a

:16:16. > :16:24.particular interest in doubt because Manchester United, or

:16:24. > :16:29.Manchester City will be champions. Manchester City will be champions.

:16:29. > :16:34.And the great Manchester run. If you enjoyed today, we have got a

:16:34. > :16:44.real treat tomorrow with Catalan against Warrington's and this is

:16:44. > :16:44.

:16:44. > :17:26.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

:17:26. > :17:32.what happened when they met last The end. We will be there tomorrow.

:17:32. > :17:39.We will have the draw for the semi- finals as well. And into that,

:17:39. > :17:46.Wigan and Leeds. Catalan, Warrington, London? We will find

:17:46. > :17:52.out. Plenty of reaction already on Twitter. It was a shame it was a

:17:52. > :17:58.one-sided match, one listener says. One said he had not seen a

:17:58. > :18:05.defensive display like it. He said they tackled really hard, Wigan.

:18:05. > :18:08.More from them on the red button. But one thing to clear up and that