:00:46. > :00:53.Welcome to the challenge cup live from Widnes. On 27th May 1990,
:00:53. > :00:58.27,000 fans gathered here on Spike Island to witness the Stone Roses
:00:58. > :01:03.perform a kick that defined an era. Meanwhile, just down the road,
:01:03. > :01:13.another piece of history was being made as Widnes finished the season
:01:13. > :01:14.
:01:14. > :01:24.rugby league world champions. going to the line and he is there.
:01:24. > :01:28.
:01:28. > :01:38.That is the true Widnes! What a tackle. Davies has scored. It is a
:01:38. > :01:43.
:01:43. > :01:48.The rugby league champions of the world. Today we are at the Stobart
:01:48. > :01:53.Stadium. Last year, St Helens made this their home as their new
:01:53. > :02:03.stadium was being constructed. This evening, they are the visitors in a
:02:03. > :02:04.
:02:04. > :02:14.competition that has served them well. Falls Gold, hardly. -- for's
:02:14. > :02:28.
:02:28. > :02:34.St Helens, the winners of the Challenge Cup final. The third
:02:34. > :02:40.successive win. You yes, they put their cup
:02:40. > :02:46.pedigree to the test this afternoon in a derby, here at Widnes. The
:02:46. > :02:51.game will kick off in 15 minutes. It will be a challenge Cup First
:02:51. > :02:59.because it is the first time it will be played on an artificial
:02:59. > :03:05.pitch. That is the 4G I it pitch at the Stobart Stadium. Of course, if
:03:05. > :03:10.you went back 30 years, there were a few football clubs trying to play
:03:10. > :03:18.their game on artificial turf. At that time, Widnes were flying on
:03:18. > :03:24.the grass. Their last Challenge Cup win came
:03:24. > :03:33.in 1984, when Joe Leiden a inspired them to victory over Wigan at
:03:33. > :03:38.Wembley. But Widnes will be grateful for as little Wigan know
:03:38. > :03:47.how, they head coach, Denis Betts, has seven Challenge Cup winners'
:03:47. > :03:52.medals under his belt. They will need the know how with a huge task,
:03:52. > :04:00.as they attempt to become the first side to prevent Saints reaching the
:04:00. > :04:06.semi-finals this century. And the man who has been at the
:04:06. > :04:16.heart of that run is a club legend. Keiron Cunningham has seven winners
:04:16. > :04:26.medals of his own and is now the acting assistant coach.
:04:26. > :04:29.
:04:29. > :04:35.Plenty of expertise to enjoy the game. Among the fans, arriving,
:04:35. > :04:42.some arriving more in hope than expectation. Keiron Cunningham is
:04:42. > :04:52.signing autographs. The expertise alongside me his Jonathan Davies,
:04:52. > :04:57.Brian Noble and Jonathan, you smile every time you see Widnes as world
:04:57. > :05:07.champions. It's the ins long time ago but things have changed.
:05:07. > :05:08.
:05:08. > :05:16.stadium, the grass. This time last year, -- when we were playing there
:05:16. > :05:20.was no grass! Bid is an uphill task. What made me smile was seen
:05:20. > :05:25.Jonathan Davies' head getting knocked off. It is a quick pitch
:05:25. > :05:28.and there has been debate about the artificial surface, but it lends
:05:28. > :05:36.itself to faster football and they will have to compete with that
:05:36. > :05:43.today. Nathan, you will be at St Helens
:05:43. > :05:50.next year. Let's talk about your relationship, this was a big trophy
:05:50. > :05:58.when you were growing up in Australia. As a kid growing up, to
:05:58. > :06:03.Watchet, it made me and all of Australia follow it. It is a
:06:03. > :06:08.wonderful place, unique will stop its his special what Saints have
:06:08. > :06:13.done this century. A any side that can consistently do well in a
:06:13. > :06:18.competition is doing well. There are few games have taken place in
:06:18. > :06:27.the fourth round. There was a shock. We saw the Super League side go
:06:27. > :06:33.this afternoon, Castleford. This was a try. It put them clearly in
:06:33. > :06:41.the lead, they scored four tries in this game. Last year's semi-
:06:41. > :06:45.finalists are out. Featherstone have been knocking on the door for
:06:45. > :06:50.a while and they have aspirations to be in super league and they have
:06:50. > :06:55.been the dominant force in the Championship. They will be
:06:55. > :07:01.extremely disappointed, Castleford. It was a drop goal right at the end.
:07:01. > :07:08.To make sure they got the extra point. It showed what the Cup is
:07:08. > :07:16.all about. Nine times out of ten, Castleford would win. Leeds went
:07:16. > :07:20.through last night. And comfortable victories for Halifax and Swinton.
:07:20. > :07:27.Plenty more games across the Challenge Cup fourth round tomorrow,
:07:27. > :07:35.including your game, Nathan, Huddersfield and Hull. In should be
:07:35. > :07:43.an interesting game. Hull have been going well. It is probably the pick
:07:43. > :07:48.of the games. You have to be in Humberside to see the best four
:07:48. > :07:53.teams in action tomorrow. The likelihood that they can be shocks
:07:53. > :07:57.in the Challenge Cup are there for all to see. After the game, we will
:07:57. > :08:03.be on the red button. You might want to talk to Nathan about
:08:03. > :08:09.Huddersfield and Hull. There is plenty of other stuff going on. I
:08:09. > :08:19.am sure prime will answer questions on the Bradford Bulls situation. --
:08:19. > :08:19.
:08:19. > :08:29.We will show more highlights from the Featherstone and Castleford
:08:29. > :08:39.
:08:39. > :08:45.game, as well. Today, we can look 1930 was the last time Widnes
:08:45. > :08:55.defeated Saints in the Challenge Cup. Since then, it has been Saints
:08:55. > :09:03.
:09:03. > :09:13.all the way. St Helens! He is in in the corner!
:09:13. > :09:22.Is it is all over. St Helens are at Wembley.
:09:22. > :09:29.He is going for the line, it is over, yes! A superb try. It is all
:09:29. > :09:39.action in the Silk Cut Challenge Cup semi-final. Hunt is in in the
:09:39. > :09:45.
:09:45. > :09:49.corner. This season, both teams have been
:09:49. > :09:55.through the mail. Vikings at the bottom of Super League with nine
:09:55. > :10:05.defeats out of 11. One of their victories was this amazing win
:10:05. > :10:08.
:10:08. > :10:14.against Wigan Warriors. 37-36. Saints got off to a terrible start,
:10:14. > :10:21.and it led to the departure of the coach after five games without a
:10:21. > :10:28.win. Mike Rush and club legend Kieron Cunningham to Cover. Since
:10:28. > :10:34.then, they have been on a roll. -- took over.
:10:34. > :10:40.The three wins out of the last four have lifted Saints to 8th in the
:10:40. > :10:44.table. Widnes are rock-bottom. They have conceded more points than any
:10:45. > :10:49.other side in Super League this season. It means it is a big
:10:49. > :10:57.question for Robbie Paul to answer, how can Widnes win this this
:10:57. > :11:02.evening? One thing we have been talking about is the new pitch.
:11:02. > :11:10.This is what makes this surface feel like a natural surface. The
:11:10. > :11:16.good thing for -- for Widnes is they are training here and playing
:11:16. > :11:25.here. It will be in their favour. They will need that. They also have
:11:25. > :11:31.a couple of players we need to keep our eye on. Willie Isa, and also
:11:31. > :11:34.Patrick Ah Van. Not only is he a good try scorer, he is the goal
:11:34. > :11:42.kicker. He will need to put the ball through the post every
:11:42. > :11:48.opportunity. We can see the big boys going out. They will need to
:11:48. > :11:54.dictate to St Helens. St Helens like this Peter and they like to
:11:54. > :12:01.get down. They will have to test the resolve of the referee -- like
:12:01. > :12:05.the speed. They will have to stop them, stop Lance Hohaia getting on
:12:05. > :12:10.the front foot. This will be the difference between whether or not
:12:10. > :12:16.Widnes can push them back in their direction.
:12:16. > :12:20.Be it is a similar question to you Jonathan. -- it is. If you look at
:12:20. > :12:26.the tackles they have missed, they have four players in the top 10 and
:12:26. > :12:31.they have missed tackles. You have to front up every week and they are
:12:31. > :12:38.not doing it. They are falling off too many tackles and their
:12:38. > :12:44.completion sets are poor. At this quality, you cannot do that. It is
:12:44. > :12:51.the basics. Do your tackles. If that happens, anything can happen.
:12:51. > :12:56.We can hear from their head coach. A you cannot go into the subject of
:12:56. > :13:02.Scott Moore leaving the club but how much of an impact has it had?
:13:02. > :13:07.His is difficult to talk about. It might galvanise us. We will find
:13:07. > :13:11.out today. There have been a lot of things going on. I feel we are
:13:11. > :13:17.pretty strong and we know what we need to do. It has been a tough
:13:18. > :13:23.start in Super League. It's is a tough competition. It is bringing
:13:23. > :13:27.players together and getting the best team you can find. The lads
:13:27. > :13:32.are working hard and it is an opportunity for them to show
:13:32. > :13:38.themselves in this league. It does not look like it's sometimes, but
:13:38. > :13:44.they are making small winds all over the place. The biggest thing
:13:44. > :13:50.his confidence. It is a fragile thing. Sometimes you have it and it
:13:50. > :13:55.disappears in front of you in the game. That is what hurts us. We
:13:55. > :13:59.have been in games, sometimes for 60 minutes, but your confidence
:13:59. > :14:06.fractures and we look like a side that is fractured. It could be nice
:14:06. > :14:12.to have a run in the cup. It is great to get St Helens here and be
:14:12. > :14:20.at our home ground. This is a really big game. Go luck. Denis
:14:20. > :14:26.Betts talking earlier. He has made his way out of the tunnel and he is
:14:26. > :14:31.talking to Paul Cullen. And also the Widnes chairman. He was at
:14:31. > :14:39.Wembley to watch Liverpool beat Everton and he is now here to
:14:39. > :14:42.hopefully see Widnes do the same to St Helens. Do you sympathise with
:14:42. > :14:49.Denis Betts over the Scott Moore issue? And Les you are involved,
:14:49. > :14:53.you do not know the -- unless you are involved, you do not know the
:14:53. > :15:01.issues. These things happen. Players move and new players come
:15:01. > :15:06.in. Denis Betts said that being in Super League this season, it is
:15:06. > :15:10.important they learn how to deal with the dark days. There will be
:15:10. > :15:14.dark days because they are new back to the competition. There have had
:15:14. > :15:19.some good performances and they need to focus on the positive side
:15:19. > :15:24.of what they are doing in Super League. It is a high-performance
:15:24. > :15:29.sport. The expectation is to compete every week. They have had
:15:29. > :15:34.issues defensively. As long as the fans can see the players are
:15:34. > :15:40.applying themselves every week, and there are incremental steps are
:15:40. > :15:46.getting better, they will stay with that. You have to see that next
:15:46. > :15:49.year, or next week will be better and we are going in the direction
:15:49. > :15:59.that is right. He is in the business of selling dreams and
:15:59. > :16:02.
:16:02. > :16:06.It has been a whirlwind for you. How are you finding it? Be it is
:16:06. > :16:13.what I have been expecting. I have said and a number of occasions. We
:16:13. > :16:19.are lucky at St Helens. I would be kidding if they did not say hour
:16:19. > :16:24.quality players did not make life easier. Are you enjoying it? I am
:16:24. > :16:30.enjoying it. To have so many great players and to code my hometown
:16:30. > :16:36.club, it is great. The form has picked up remarkably. What have you
:16:36. > :16:41.done differently? Probably not too much. I think whenever you get a
:16:41. > :16:45.departure of coaching staff, the players have to look after
:16:45. > :16:51.themselves, and a lot of them have done that. We have changed her few
:16:51. > :16:57.things. We had to pick them up and get their confidence and self-
:16:58. > :17:05.belief. You know more than anybody what the Cup means to St Helen's.
:17:05. > :17:09.Yes. We have not been to Wembley for three years. Expectation is
:17:09. > :17:16.there from our fans every year! This year is no different. We will
:17:16. > :17:22.have to produce some form today. good look. Tree it. We can see the
:17:22. > :17:28.away dressing room. Let's take a look inside. A few of the shares
:17:28. > :17:35.are putting -- a few of the players are putting their shirts on. I
:17:35. > :17:41.mention Steve O'Connor before. have jetted up from Wembley. Not a
:17:41. > :17:48.bad life! It has been a good start to the day. It was well worth the
:17:48. > :17:54.results earlier. How began occasion is this? Far as are desperate for
:17:54. > :18:02.these local rivalries. -- fans. We just hope we put on a good display.
:18:02. > :18:09.If we put in a good performance, I will be delighted. It we are a
:18:09. > :18:15.brand new team. We're trying to see who fits. Unfortunately, it did not
:18:15. > :18:22.work out with Scott. We have the chance for somebody else. A you
:18:22. > :18:27.dreaming of they know their trip to Wembley? -- are you are dreaming of
:18:27. > :18:37.a another trip to Wembley. It would be great to progress to the next
:18:37. > :18:40.
:18:40. > :18:50.round. Good luck. Enjoyed the day. The thank you very much.
:18:50. > :18:50.
:18:50. > :18:57.Let's look at one of the players to watch. Lance Hohaia. What do you
:18:58. > :19:04.think that thinking was behind moving his position? I am not 100 %
:19:04. > :19:14.sure. Paul Wellens is playing really well at full-back. I'd do
:19:14. > :19:18.
:19:18. > :19:25.not know if they are sure where to play Lance Hohaia. I think Lomax
:19:25. > :19:35.and gas goal are under pressure -- gas goal, so he is taking the
:19:35. > :19:38.
:19:38. > :19:47.pressure off them a little bit. It is a sensible month. Let's do some
:19:47. > :19:57.predictions now. I would love to see wet-nurse -- Widnes win, but I
:19:57. > :20:03.
:20:03. > :20:13.cannot see it happening today. Brian? Saints. I think they are too
:20:13. > :20:14.
:20:14. > :20:19.strong. So you think cool heads will be the key? Yes. The culprit
:20:19. > :20:29.is eight very interesting competition. Plenty more families 3
:20:29. > :20:42.
:20:42. > :20:49.at half-time. It is time now to They are looking for some Challenge
:20:49. > :20:58.Cup sunshine! It is amazing what a feel-good factor this call pecan
:20:58. > :21:07.provide. -- this Challenge Cup can provide. This is the final act of
:21:07. > :21:17.what has been a fabulous sporting a full stop there has been drama with
:21:17. > :21:45.
:21:45. > :21:54.debut. Jonny Lomax is back from a hand injury. On the interchange
:21:54. > :22:04.bench, 80 names we are certain to see in the next 18 minutes or so.
:22:04. > :22:05.
:22:05. > :22:10.Al referee is a man with plenty of experience. -- hour referee. He has
:22:10. > :22:20.been a touch judge in a World Cup final. Different atmosphere here
:22:20. > :22:22.
:22:22. > :22:28.today. St Helens have the first touch of the ball. Josh Perry. This
:22:28. > :22:33.is very much a Cup tie for the modern age, on this surface. I
:22:33. > :22:42.intelligent pitch. All we need is some intelligent commentators!
:22:42. > :22:50.think Widnes have to be very careful at the start of this game.
:22:50. > :22:57.Widnes have to be very mindful defensively in the first 20 minutes.
:22:57. > :23:07.They do not want this to slip away to allay. There was a kick from
:23:07. > :23:07.
:23:07. > :23:17.Lomax. Eight drive back to that 30 metres mark. It is important for
:23:17. > :23:20.
:23:20. > :23:30.both sides not to make mistakes. What do you make of this page? --
:23:30. > :23:30.
:23:30. > :23:37.pitch. It is very fast one. It is so fast and ferocious when you play
:23:37. > :23:44.on this. That is how stains like to play. With ASBO do need to be very
:23:44. > :23:54.careful. Widnes will be looking for a kick here. Danny Craven Meyer.
:23:54. > :24:00.
:24:00. > :24:10.Paul Wellens. St Helens will start from here. Good tactics from make
:24:10. > :24:15.
:24:15. > :24:25.witness -- good tactics from the Widnes side. Soliola, he has just
:24:25. > :24:28.
:24:28. > :24:38.agreed a new deal. Back to what Lomax. A little swing of they hit
:24:38. > :24:44.
:24:44. > :24:52.their. -- swing of their hips. Neither side is making mistakes.
:24:52. > :25:02.Couple of tackles. Clarke is a very pivotal number nine for his side.
:25:02. > :25:09.
:25:09. > :25:19.Cahill is going through a lot of work in these early stages. What a
:25:19. > :25:24.
:25:24. > :25:34.score! What a fabulous that that was! -- fabulous start. Patrick Ah
:25:34. > :25:36.
:25:36. > :25:46.Van. That was his 5th try of the season. Fantastic start. Lovely
:25:46. > :25:50.
:25:50. > :26:00.play from Danny Craven. Fantastic finish. That is what this game
:26:00. > :26:00.
:26:00. > :26:08.needed, and Elise call from the Widnes side. -- an early score.
:26:08. > :26:18.moved from Bradford last year. I think he had dust -- I think he had
:26:18. > :26:24.
:26:24. > :26:34.a shoulder injury for a while. Eight chance now to 10 four to six.
:26:34. > :26:39.
:26:39. > :26:49.He is the picture of concentration here. If anybody can convert this,
:26:49. > :26:55.
:26:55. > :27:05.ban can. -- Ah Van can. He hit it wrong. It drifted wide. But it
:27:05. > :27:05.
:27:06. > :27:12.remains 4-0, but it is a very good start. Widnes with this Elise golf.
:27:12. > :27:19.Knowing what a threat St Helens are, and a number of tries Widnes have
:27:19. > :27:29.conceded this season, it is very important. What is really important
:27:29. > :27:36.
:27:36. > :27:43.now is that they complete a second. Craven is very good. Clarke at
:27:43. > :27:52.dummy half again. Widnes showing an appetite for work. Pickersgill, the
:27:52. > :28:02.other a prop forward. Former Warrington man. Confidence is so
:28:02. > :28:29.
:28:29. > :28:38.fragile. Good kick from Danny Ruby. -- James Roby. He is waiting
:28:38. > :28:45.at dummy-half. Almost finding his way through. He is such a dangerous
:28:45. > :28:50.player. Bittersweet for Adam Swift, 19 years of age. He is making his
:28:50. > :28:56.debut. Any other day, it would be a massive a proud day for him, but
:28:56. > :29:06.his grandfather sadly passed away last night. Harold swift, one of
:29:06. > :29:06.
:29:06. > :29:12.the founding fathers in rugby. That is why St Helens are wearing a
:29:12. > :29:22.black arm bands. I am sure his grandson will be looking for a big
:29:22. > :29:32.
:29:32. > :29:42.game. Josh Jones! His first ever St Helens try! That was confirmed by
:29:42. > :29:43.
:29:43. > :29:53.the referee. The 18-year-old grabs a bit of glory. Josh Jones has got
:29:53. > :30:03.
:30:03. > :30:08.great footwork. St Helens are very difficult to contain in this area.
:30:08. > :30:18.A great finish there. You cannot consistently gave ball to St Helens
:30:18. > :30:18.
:30:18. > :30:28.in this area. Christine, a man who was hurting there, a former St
:30:28. > :30:44.
:30:44. > :30:49.Helens player who was beaten there in the last couple of years? He is
:30:49. > :30:56.already up to 64 appearances, which is some going for a 22-year-old. It
:30:56. > :31:04.shows how he burst on to the scene last year. He is great. He is a
:31:04. > :31:08.good goal kicker as well. He pushed that one to the side of the post.
:31:08. > :31:18.The sign of a good player is a player who can maintain standards,
:31:18. > :31:23.
:31:23. > :31:33.and Jonny Lomax has done that. We on the outside, and a lovely finish.
:31:33. > :31:34.
:31:34. > :31:44.Two tries in the game. One apiece. And here we go again St Helens
:31:44. > :31:54.
:31:54. > :32:04.terms of keeping their opponents at this end for the time being. Lomax
:32:04. > :32:14.
:32:14. > :32:21.was behind the 40 so if that had gone out of play... But a super
:32:21. > :32:27.take by Jack Owens. Fantastic play. It was a great kick from James Roby.
:32:27. > :32:31.Very difficult to defend the kicks on early tackles. He did that
:32:31. > :32:37.exceptionally well. Widnes are committing so many players to the
:32:37. > :32:47.tackle. It takes a lot of energy. It is important you complete your
:32:47. > :32:54.
:32:54. > :33:04.to put Hep Cahill through. The final tackle in the Six. Craven got
:33:04. > :33:11.the kick away. A safe pair of hands. That must be a tactic. Widnes have
:33:11. > :33:20.talked about that. He gets in the air, you cannot be tackled in the
:33:21. > :33:26.air, and a great catch. James Roby, sauntering up to dummy half. The
:33:26. > :33:31.referee has seen enough and so the advantage goes to Widnes. Six
:33:31. > :33:36.tackles to have a dig at the St Helens line. This is the first
:33:36. > :33:41.error. This gives Widnes field position, which they have not had
:33:41. > :33:46.so far. Since the first try, they have not had field position. If
:33:46. > :33:56.they do not score on this play, it is important to keep the played
:33:56. > :34:01.
:34:01. > :34:09.down this end of the field. -- the middle again. Haggarty has been
:34:09. > :34:19.away at the North Wales crusaders but called back in the last week.
:34:19. > :34:19.
:34:19. > :34:24.St Helens are hanging on for the time being. That pass was poor.
:34:24. > :34:30.Collected safely enough by Lomax. Relief for the St Helens defence.
:34:30. > :34:35.I think Rhys Hanbury will be disappointed. He went natural. A
:34:35. > :34:45.poor pass. They have given cheap possession away and you cannot do
:34:45. > :35:06.
:35:06. > :35:13.that consistently with a St Helen defend as St Helens come at them
:35:13. > :35:18.again. That was a decent kick from Lomax. Taken well by Jack Owens.
:35:18. > :35:28.For a 70-year-old, he shows terrific confidence. They have big
:35:28. > :35:35.hopes to him -- for a 17-year-old. They are throwing the ball. A
:35:35. > :35:45.little bit into the dangerous positions. You feel that Widnes
:35:45. > :35:47.
:35:47. > :35:54.about. There are a few of your former players as a former Crusade
:35:54. > :36:04.as coach. He has done a lot of wrestling. He is good in the
:36:04. > :36:16.
:36:16. > :36:26.Widnes line. You can see James Roby barking out the orders. Here he
:36:26. > :36:39.
:36:39. > :36:44.Helens. They have done that so well over the years. The gap was
:36:44. > :36:49.provided and Paul Wellens was up there in support. He will go
:36:49. > :36:54.underneath the sticks, or at very least to the side of them. But they
:36:54. > :36:59.ripped a hole down the middle. Lomax took full advantage. Having
:36:59. > :37:05.been behind after three minutes, it has taken barely seven more for St
:37:05. > :37:09.Helens to push themselves back into the lead. You feel as though St
:37:09. > :37:15.Helens have found the flow. Some of the players kept getting left on
:37:15. > :37:21.the ground after the tackle. When you do that, you are down
:37:21. > :37:29.defensively. They played fast off the back of James Roby. You cannot
:37:29. > :37:34.leave players down on the floor. Jonny Lomax, fantastic play. It is
:37:34. > :37:39.an easy job, this coaching lark. When they took over, St Helens were
:37:39. > :37:44.supposedly in crisis but they had a couple of good victories. Defeats
:37:44. > :37:47.over the Easter period, against Wigan, but they have beaten
:37:48. > :37:57.Warrington and Leeds Town and here they are in the driving seat again
:37:57. > :38:01.Widnes. -- Leeds. Why a is there such a change in their approach?
:38:02. > :38:07.Denis Betts was talking about confidence, which is important.
:38:07. > :38:17.When you play with confidence, you can play with freedom. I think
:38:17. > :38:19.
:38:19. > :38:23.Saints were down on confidence. And when the new coaching came in, you
:38:23. > :38:27.felt that they played with more confidence. Lomax, lovely break and
:38:27. > :38:37.how many times has Paul Wellens done that in his career? A great
:38:37. > :38:39.
:38:39. > :38:46.finish. But Super play from Jonny Lomax. Patience, as well.
:38:46. > :38:56.Widnes supporter will say there might have been a hint in that, but
:38:56. > :39:05.
:39:06. > :39:11.was interesting, leading into the last set. There were worrying signs
:39:11. > :39:18.for Widnes because James Roby had run the ball three times. That is
:39:18. > :39:27.normally a sign that St Helens are starting to dominate the speed of
:39:27. > :39:32.the ruck. They want to play at such the pace of Widnes, not of the fast
:39:32. > :39:38.pace of St Helens. Skipping out of play behind the 20
:39:38. > :39:44.metre line. St Helens on the attack. Jack Owens took a great kick from
:39:44. > :39:48.James Roby when he tried the 40-20. He has spotted a weakness down the
:39:48. > :39:52.right side and he has done it again with a fantastic kick from James
:39:53. > :40:02.Roby. It is difficult to stop that type of play in an early tackle
:40:03. > :40:05.
:40:05. > :40:10.game. That was tackle three. If you kick the ball from behind the 40
:40:10. > :40:16.metre line-out of your opponent's' 20 metre line and get ahead, you
:40:16. > :40:23.cannot make a forward pass in the next move. James Roby has jumped
:40:23. > :40:28.out from the scrum and gone lateral across field and run behind, which
:40:28. > :40:34.has given Widnes penalty and some respite, because you felt they were
:40:34. > :40:39.on the back foot. It is a massive relief for Widnes. James Roby way,
:40:39. > :40:49.and the man coming in adjudged to have caused and obstruction
:40:49. > :41:08.
:41:08. > :41:15.knocked on at the very last. Head and feed for St Helens. That was a
:41:15. > :41:20.shame because it was a lovely run. But you can see it there. Tackle
:41:20. > :41:30.four, they had an opportunity to put more pressure on the same side.
:41:30. > :41:58.
:41:58. > :42:04.now. -- This is. Field by his early success. -- fuelled. St Helens are
:42:04. > :42:14.getting a roll now, and you can feel the momentum. Lance Hohaia put
:42:14. > :42:24.the kick behind. It was awkward, but taken well enough. They need
:42:24. > :42:25.
:42:25. > :42:29.runs like that to get themselves out of danger, Widnes. Widnes have
:42:29. > :42:33.put their outside backs in. They are looking fatigued in the middle
:42:33. > :42:37.area of the field. The forwards have done a lot of defensive work.
:42:37. > :42:44.The backs have taken over to give them an opportunity to release
:42:44. > :42:54.their line. That wasn't bad from Danny Craven, he had found the
:42:54. > :43:13.
:43:13. > :43:23.Helens player wearing skins. Concern over the damage the pitch
:43:23. > :43:25.
:43:25. > :43:35.might do to knees and elbows. James Roby used Zizi as a foil and almost
:43:35. > :43:49.
:43:49. > :43:54.hopeful. The again, the attack came on the back. James Roby out of
:43:54. > :44:01.dummy-half, playing fast. Then Lomax jumped out the back. Looking
:44:01. > :44:05.dangerous, Saints. Widnes have to tighten up because the damage is
:44:05. > :44:15.coming from the Saints side. They need to tighten up slightly, the
:44:15. > :44:31.
:44:31. > :44:38.here. That was a good offload. And look at the pace from Rhys Hanbury!
:44:38. > :44:42.Electrifying. Absolutely electrifying. And if Widnes needed
:44:42. > :44:50.a kick start back into the game, they have just been given it by
:44:50. > :44:59.Rhys Hanbury. What a try! We talked about a James Roby jumping out to
:44:59. > :45:05.dummy-half, and they did the same. What a turn of pace. It was a
:45:05. > :45:12.fantastic try. Clarke jumps out and teases the defence. Rhys Hanbury,
:45:12. > :45:18.fantastic pace. Amazing. He ducked in between the two. He is a great
:45:18. > :45:21.talent with the ball in hand. Extremely good. He is holding his
:45:21. > :45:28.hands to him there and there will be concerned. Be it looks like a
:45:28. > :45:33.problem he has brought into the game -- it looks like. He seems to
:45:33. > :45:43.be OK at the moment. And the turn of pace had tested the injury but
:45:43. > :46:10.
:46:10. > :46:17.all square again, at 10-10. Dennis Betts knows his side are showing
:46:17. > :46:25.character here. There was every excuse to maybe let their heads to
:46:25. > :46:30.drop when St Helens got into the lead. A great response from Rhys
:46:30. > :46:40.Hanbury and Widnes. We spoke beforehand about that 20 minute
:46:40. > :46:45.
:46:45. > :46:50.mark. We spoke about Widnes still being in the game. He was in the
:46:50. > :46:57.field of play, when he led to catch it. Had he stepped out of the field
:46:57. > :47:06.of play, you can see he was in the field of play and let out to
:47:06. > :47:15.capture its, that could have been a penalty back on the halfway line.
:47:15. > :47:25.Instead, St Helens have a terrific attacking position here. Soliola.
:47:25. > :47:44.
:47:44. > :47:54.James Roby, rolling up at dummy are some confidence. -- though
:47:54. > :47:55.
:47:55. > :48:05.Widnes side. They are looking pretty good at the moment, Widnes.
:48:05. > :48:42.
:48:42. > :48:52.Mrs Clarke. Hanbury. -- this is Clarke. A great trays by Widnes. --
:48:52. > :48:59.
:48:59. > :49:09.great chase. Again, Danny Craven. A great tackle. Great play there.
:49:09. > :49:15.
:49:15. > :49:21.underdogs are having their day. Last night, Wakefield gave it to
:49:21. > :49:31.Leeds for 40 minutes. They were beating them until half-time. Here,
:49:31. > :50:05.
:50:06. > :50:15.Widnes and making it a battle for -- Hanbury again. Widnes rarely
:50:15. > :50:23.challenge St Helens NFU areas then. -- Widnes really challenged St
:50:23. > :50:33.Helens in a few areas then. McCarthy-Scarsbrook is on from the
:50:33. > :50:50.
:50:50. > :50:58.interchange bench. I think that was a bit of fatigue. Suddenly, a
:50:58. > :51:08.chance for St Helens. Paul Clough is another who has appeared from
:51:08. > :51:09.
:51:09. > :52:00.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds
:52:00. > :52:08.eight Interchange bench. -- from Widnes hanging on. They tested and
:52:08. > :52:12.tested that line, until I find breaking points. -- until they
:52:12. > :52:21.found breaking points. St Helens now have the lead again. Saints
:52:21. > :52:30.must have had a few offload. Was this a lot destruction? I am not
:52:30. > :52:40.sure. Possibly. Lovely ball from Lomax that. Flannery just slices
:52:40. > :52:44.
:52:44. > :52:54.the defence. Lovely ball, lovely ball. Great try from the Saints.
:52:54. > :53:04.Little bit of controversy. Lomax has the chance to add the two. That
:53:04. > :53:08.
:53:08. > :53:17.would give his side a 6 point lead. We know Widnes are capable of
:53:17. > :53:27.scoring tries, but they also capable of conceding a lot of
:53:27. > :53:30.
:53:30. > :53:35.points. A Lomax goal gave St Helens 86 point lead. Anthony Watts is
:53:35. > :53:43.with me. What are you making of eight? The boys are putting in a
:53:43. > :53:53.good performance. We have just got to watch St Helens. You are looking
:53:53. > :53:53.
:53:53. > :54:02.good. It is that defence, always. Yes. We have been good at tackling.
:54:02. > :54:06.How frustrating for you to be watching mess! Yes, very
:54:06. > :54:16.frustrating. I have come over from Australia. I hope I will get back
:54:16. > :54:17.
:54:17. > :54:27.on the field next year. Shaun Briscoe is another fairly long-term
:54:27. > :54:42.
:54:42. > :54:52.absentee fathers Widnes side. They thing St Helens have been very good.
:54:52. > :54:55.
:54:55. > :55:05.Widnes have kicked well as well. It is very important Widnes do not let
:55:05. > :55:23.
:55:23. > :55:27.this game slip away. They have just important forward ASBO. If they can
:55:27. > :55:32.go into half-time just with this lead, they will be thinking, we can
:55:32. > :55:42.make a game out of this. It is whether they can hold back this St
:55:42. > :55:42.
:55:42. > :56:30.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds
:56:30. > :56:36.Helens defence for the next 10 looking for the video here. We will
:56:36. > :56:41.have a look at this now. Widnes came up with an error. When you
:56:41. > :56:51.allow St Helens to this part of the pitch, it is very difficult to stop
:56:51. > :56:52.
:56:52. > :56:57.them. I think that is OK. It is no problem. It will only be rolled off
:56:57. > :57:05.if they say his elbow touch the floor. I think that is all in one
:57:05. > :57:13.movement. I think this one will be OK. Absolutely nothing wrong with
:57:13. > :57:19.that. The referee is right to make sure. The video referee has the
:57:19. > :57:27.chance to push the Button, surely to confirm this will be a trite for
:57:27. > :57:37.St Helens. They are beginning to take control. Chances are they will
:57:37. > :57:39.
:57:39. > :57:44.have at least a... It is looking a little bit ominous for Widnes.
:57:44. > :57:51.can score points, we have seen that, they can score points, but when
:57:51. > :58:01.they are coming away and they come up with a few mistakes which has
:58:01. > :58:11.
:58:11. > :58:21.given Saints the ball. 10 points for Widnes, 22 for St Helens. That
:58:21. > :58:34.
:58:34. > :58:39.was Lance Hohaia's latest effort. In his LEA career, -- in his early
:58:39. > :58:47.career, he was used in different positions. This is certainly his
:58:47. > :58:50.position and where he is most lot of confidence, as are most of
:58:50. > :59:00.St Helens. When you play with confidence, you can play with a bit
:59:00. > :59:16.
:59:17. > :59:26.with that. John Kite is the man who looks like he is wearing tracksuit
:59:27. > :59:56.
:59:56. > :00:06.defending down here. -- St. -- Saints. Lloyd White is another of
:00:06. > :00:11.
:00:11. > :00:21.your ex players. It is a really good set from Widnes. Wellens led
:00:21. > :00:21.
:00:21. > :01:04.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds
:01:04. > :01:12.St Helens man. James Roby wants to earlier knock-on. It will be
:01:12. > :01:21.Widnes's ball. A few of the Widnes players are starting to drop-off a
:01:21. > :01:31.few tackles. Just could not take that in. So am big work to do. They
:01:31. > :01:33.
:01:33. > :01:43.would love to score a try, and get some points into this deficit.
:01:43. > :02:14.
:02:14. > :02:24.Denis Betts is still barking out Meli was having another go. Tearing
:02:24. > :02:41.
:02:41. > :02:48.there is an interception. Has he not got there, Lomax would have
:02:48. > :02:58.been under the sticks. He might have delayed the inevitable. That's
:02:58. > :03:03.
:03:03. > :03:13.was a try savour from Jack Owens. He almost came up with the into set
:03:13. > :03:16.
:03:16. > :03:22.-- he saved a try. A on the pitch, looking at this pitch, people will
:03:22. > :03:27.think it gives a home advantage to Widnes. I do not think that is the
:03:27. > :03:32.case. If a team like to play like St Helens do, they get the
:03:32. > :03:39.advantage, because it is a quick surface. They will test the resolve
:03:39. > :03:47.as St Helens to the limit. Crashing over. It was only delaying the
:03:47. > :03:53.inevitable. It is another St Helens tried. McCarthy-Scarsbrook this
:03:53. > :04:01.time. James Roby, the dummy half. The in letting James Roby dictate
:04:01. > :04:06.the play, that is too much now. He skips out. A lovely boy. McCarthy-
:04:06. > :04:13.Scarsbrook crashes through. James Roby should be put under pressure
:04:13. > :04:18.in this area. McCarthy-Scarsbrook took full advantage and crash
:04:18. > :04:26.through the line. Widnes will be disappointed. But take nothing away
:04:26. > :04:35.from these skill of James Roby. London boy. McCarthy-Scarsbrook, a
:04:35. > :04:40.proper Cockney. He was born in Bow, within the sound of Bow Bells. And
:04:40. > :04:49.there is a happy interim coach, Mike Rush. His side in complete
:04:49. > :04:59.control. Jonny Lomax has already succeeded with three from his four.
:04:59. > :05:07.
:05:07. > :05:14.You would back him to make this the relative ease of the conversion
:05:14. > :05:19.attempt and it is four out of five. It is an awful long way back for
:05:19. > :05:25.the home side from this situation with half-time looming. Rob people
:05:25. > :05:35.got it spot on when he said it is a dangerous time for their Widnes
:05:35. > :05:36.
:05:36. > :05:41.side -- Robbie Paul. He got it spot on. I still think Widnes can get
:05:41. > :05:46.back into the game if they lift the tempo, but it is difficult. It was
:05:46. > :05:56.a bright start for Widnes with Patrick Ah Van leading the way. But
:05:56. > :06:04.
:06:04. > :06:09.a steam roller provided by St And it got off to such a great
:06:09. > :06:18.start for the home side. Patrick Ah Van's try giving Widnes the first
:06:18. > :06:25.points. At one stage Rhys Hanbury went over for Widnes, 10-10 at that
:06:25. > :06:33.stage. Denis Betts was happy as he drank his coffee and then Widnes...
:06:33. > :06:43.St Helens, rather, with four tries have gone clear of Widnes at half
:06:43. > :06:43.
:06:43. > :06:45.time. It means the scored board, ten points for Widnes Vikings. St
:06:45. > :06:50.ten points for Widnes Vikings. St Helens have 28 and they have
:06:50. > :06:51.touched down five times. Before we touched down five times. Before we
:06:51. > :06:58.get the thought of the studio, get the thought of the studio,
:06:58. > :07:05.let's go to Robbie Paul. It is cold down here. Not much to
:07:06. > :07:14.warm the home fans. They started well. They got the first try. You
:07:14. > :07:19.thought maybe they could ramp it up. The mistake. I was wondering
:07:19. > :07:26.whether they could hold the closeness into the second half.
:07:26. > :07:36.Anything can happen in the 40 minutes. If the fans get behind you.
:07:36. > :07:37.
:07:37. > :07:42.St Helens looked like they can go again. Can Widnes get back into it?
:07:42. > :07:52.What they needed doing is kick the ball out. They need to knock Saints
:07:52. > :07:57.off the rhythm. They have another gear, Saints. If everything is
:07:57. > :08:04.positive and productive, they are keeping Widnes on the back foot.
:08:04. > :08:14.Widnes need to break the rhythm. Maybe kick the ball out. Make it
:08:14. > :08:18.
:08:18. > :08:22.come to a scrum, everybody stop. come to a scrum, everybody stop.
:08:22. > :08:29.We can take a look at the facts from the match after that. St
:08:29. > :08:35.Helens have more possession, as you can see. The Vikings have made six
:08:35. > :08:41.errors compared to the two for St Helens. And the majority have been
:08:41. > :08:47.particularly costly. We can look at the home side dressing room with
:08:47. > :08:55.Denis Betts talking. Will they be shell-shocked? I am not so sure
:08:55. > :09:01.about shell-shocked. For a while it was a reasonable contest. The
:09:01. > :09:09.Magennis comes on and Paul Clough, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, and they
:09:09. > :09:16.generate enough for James Roby. I think there bench has been more
:09:16. > :09:26.powerful than Widnes. James Roby has been allowed to dictate the
:09:26. > :09:27.
:09:27. > :09:32.pace of the game. Widnes Moss combat that. -- must. It was an
:09:32. > :09:35.even tussle for 25 minutes. Suddenly, James Roby was finding
:09:35. > :09:41.more holes around the middle and you have to defend where the ball
:09:41. > :09:46.is. You have to put more troops in there if you are not handling that.
:09:46. > :09:51.When Widnes are near their own line, it's as if they are not confident
:09:51. > :09:57.in their movements and the belief that they can defend a set of six.
:09:57. > :10:02.The great thing about our game is your recognised for your defence if
:10:02. > :10:05.performance also. We have seen one team defend better than the other.
:10:05. > :10:10.We have to cure that aspect of James Roby having a free hand
:10:10. > :10:20.around the middle with Flannery, Flanagan, Lance Hohaia, punching
:10:20. > :10:25.holes around the ruck. The a got off to a good start. -- they got.
:10:25. > :10:35.There is good support on the inside. He holds Paul Wellens for this bit
:10:35. > :10:41.second. The winger is back. Is that the pitch? Paul Wellens is held by
:10:41. > :10:47.the Inside runner. It is a fantastic start. When St Helen see
:10:47. > :10:54.an opportunity, based which on, they go up a couple of beers. They
:10:54. > :11:01.are so slow in reacting to what Saints are doing -- couple of beers.
:11:01. > :11:08.Just Jones's first try in his St Helens career. -- Josh Jones.
:11:08. > :11:13.do you need to offload their? Is watching the ball a little bit. He
:11:13. > :11:19.gets on the outside shoulder. He should not score, really. In this
:11:19. > :11:26.quality league, rarely do you see that simple try. He is a young
:11:26. > :11:33.player, Josh Jones. And whether Chris Dean has more experience and
:11:33. > :11:37.he has underestimated him as well. The wing left him one on one. In
:11:37. > :11:41.today's game anyone who can get one on one should feel reasonably
:11:41. > :11:51.comfortable. We're are sitting above the home fans and they were
:11:51. > :11:52.
:11:52. > :11:55.not pleased with the Paul Wellens try. Why are you smiling?
:11:56. > :12:05.attacks the first marker. When the first marker has gone, a great
:12:05. > :12:11.angle run by Lomax and when that has happened, it is good night.
:12:11. > :12:19.do you fix it? You get the water balls Adam sage instead of standing
:12:19. > :12:27.there, stand there and defend where the ball... -- where the balls are,
:12:27. > :12:37.and to fend. We have to have a fight around the middle. Stop James
:12:37. > :12:41.Roby and low -- Lomax having a field day. The best players are the
:12:41. > :12:47.number nines. In one instance St Helens had six players behind to
:12:47. > :12:54.play the ball and they have a wide defence. We saw them going for 40-
:12:54. > :12:58.20s. I have no idea what matters, it appeared to be a kick in the air.
:12:58. > :13:06.The 40-20s are maybe easier to attend on this pitch. Just north
:13:06. > :13:14.and said it is probably best playing on this pitch -- Jonathan
:13:14. > :13:24.said. If you are playing fast. It is so hard to defend. On played
:13:24. > :13:27.
:13:27. > :13:35.three, most wingers -- on play three. Not benign, Jon Clarke. The
:13:35. > :13:39.defender is slow getting off the ground. -- number nine. If the
:13:39. > :13:49.second man reads it, as he does, it is a great finish, but it comes
:13:49. > :13:55.from the 9th. A Rhys Hanbury hits. That's what makes it easier. Widnes
:13:55. > :14:03.replicated it here. It is really hard to defend. Players getting up
:14:03. > :14:10.late from tackles was a problem for Widnes. The bench plays a big part
:14:10. > :14:16.in any team. Apart from individual defensive stuff, the young Widnes
:14:16. > :14:24.full-back, you could maybe organising better and close down
:14:24. > :14:30.some staff, and James Roby and Lomax are big threats. The full-
:14:30. > :14:40.back could stand closer of. It is tough, especially when you go
:14:40. > :14:46.backwards. They need to do anything they can to get some help. Those
:14:46. > :14:52.guys kicked through the gears after a 10-10. Watch again. Poor
:14:52. > :14:57.defensive communication. Chris Flannery must have thought, what is
:14:57. > :15:04.going on here? Bit his concentration. They are struggling
:15:04. > :15:09.with concentration. -- it is. You cannot afford to lose your
:15:09. > :15:16.concentration at Super League level. Good sides will take you to pieces.
:15:16. > :15:25.It is as if they are slowly going back and... In his it tiredness,
:15:25. > :15:29.the concentration? In it might be mental tiredness. -- it might be.
:15:29. > :15:35.There is indication that they are not quite off the ground as quick
:15:35. > :15:40.as they should be. Is it a physical state that causes you to have a
:15:40. > :15:50.lack of urgency? The urgency you need to and the enthusiasm, it is
:15:50. > :15:56.
:15:56. > :16:02.are good enough and are not good enough, and then they will make
:16:02. > :16:12.changes. Coming up this week, quite a momentous day. We are 100 days
:16:12. > :16:16.
:16:16. > :16:25.away, later this week, from the People want to be involved, even if
:16:25. > :16:33.it is just carrying a stick! Olympic Games, where Wright grew up.
:16:33. > :16:43.I am proud of that. It is all about 2012. I am excited to see what
:16:43. > :17:00.
:17:00. > :17:10.London does. What else would you 10:20pm. Tomorrow, or the other
:17:10. > :17:10.
:17:10. > :17:20.side from Manchester. The Chinese Grand Prix is live on the BBC this
:17:20. > :17:25.
:17:25. > :17:35.weekend. Coverage begins at 7am. That is tomorrow morning. Widnes
:17:35. > :17:36.
:17:36. > :17:44.have it all to do in the second half here. There are 28 to 10 down.
:17:44. > :17:54.History tells you that St Helens at going to have this today. There
:17:54. > :17:56.
:17:56. > :18:01.have been in much better form than Widnes. St Helens have the
:18:01. > :18:08.confidence soaring through their veins. They know everything is with
:18:08. > :18:15.them at the moment. How do Widnes 10 is around now? Considers
:18:15. > :18:24.fractured. How do they make it better? -- confidence fractured.
:18:24. > :18:32.You have to work your way back into the game. You have to defend
:18:32. > :18:37.solidly in the middle of the field. They have to work their way back in.
:18:37. > :18:47.They have just come up with a mistake there. That was an
:18:47. > :18:51.
:18:51. > :18:57.accidental touch. Widnes find themselves here. Hammered down the
:18:57. > :19:06.field by Danny Craven. Not disastrous. Just a little sign how
:19:06. > :19:10.things are not going as they wanted. They have had problems off field
:19:10. > :19:19.this week, haven't they? The departure of Scott Moore, about
:19:19. > :19:23.which very little has been said. Shenton made very good distance
:19:23. > :19:29.then. What does that do to the morale of players? I know you do
:19:29. > :19:33.not want to comment specifically about the Scott Moore situation.
:19:33. > :19:38.it only affects you if you let it effective. If you are a strong
:19:38. > :19:42.group, a strong club, you can deal with things that happen through a
:19:42. > :19:47.season. All sorts of things happen on and off the field. You have to
:19:47. > :19:57.be strong as it unit and deal with it. Dennis Betts alluded to that in
:19:57. > :20:21.
:20:21. > :20:28.and not finding any. Widnes cannot afford to concede the next try.
:20:28. > :20:35.They cannot. They have to get to the end of their set and put a good
:20:35. > :20:43.kick in, and push St Helens back and make them work for everything.
:20:43. > :20:49.You cannot try to come up with big plays. Clachan that dummy-half
:20:49. > :20:59.position a game there. -- clerking in that dummy-half position again
:20:59. > :21:36.
:21:36. > :21:41.times this game, hasn't he? chance here thought Widnes. If they
:21:41. > :21:51.are to get back in again, this is the kind of opportunity they simply
:21:51. > :21:51.
:21:51. > :22:38.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds
:22:38. > :22:45.four to go. Opportunities still is a try for Widnes. A red face for
:22:45. > :22:55.that St Helens defence! Widnes have both hookers on the field at the
:22:55. > :22:56.
:22:56. > :23:04.moment. Their cars St Helens a bit of a problem. -- they cause to St
:23:04. > :23:12.Helens. Lloyd White got himself in the dummy half. They took the St
:23:12. > :23:19.Helens players by surprise. It was a great turn. Great play by Lloyd
:23:19. > :23:29.White. A good start to the second half. They have been conservative.
:23:29. > :23:38.
:23:38. > :23:48.They have put pressure on the game, a hint of a contest. If
:23:48. > :24:07.
:24:07. > :24:17.Patrick Ah Van can put this over, Widnes, 28 for St Helens. -- 16th
:24:17. > :24:22.
:24:22. > :24:26.all Widnes. 28 the 16th. Widnes may be back in it. Dennis Betts was
:24:26. > :24:30.telling his team to cut out the errors at half-time. He was very
:24:30. > :24:40.disappointed with the last 10 minutes. Mike Rush told his side to
:24:40. > :24:51.
:24:51. > :25:01.stick with what is working, but charge next season. They can enjoy
:25:01. > :25:05.
:25:05. > :25:15.themselves this season. That is easier to say and do! Five gone.
:25:15. > :25:45.
:25:45. > :25:55.That was it a decent booked. -- that position, especially if you
:25:55. > :25:55.
:25:55. > :26:01.will play 80 minutes, which James Roby is capable of doing. Yes. When
:26:01. > :26:11.Widnes started to fatigue in the first half, James Roby looked
:26:11. > :26:35.
:26:35. > :26:41.extremely dangerous. I'm sure they eight. Not convincing. How
:26:41. > :26:51.different is the Barnes on this pitch? Is it higher? I think the
:26:51. > :26:52.
:26:52. > :27:02.first bounce a. If fault back -- for full-backs who play unless,,
:27:02. > :27:04.
:27:04. > :27:14.the first one is. A penalty has been given. That was a decent piece
:27:14. > :27:17.
:27:17. > :27:22.of refereeing. I think it was a good piece of refereeing. St Helens
:27:22. > :27:32.have been a little bit lethargic. They are trying to pick the
:27:32. > :28:02.
:28:02. > :28:12.second try in his St Helens career by Josh Jones! He will remember
:28:12. > :28:13.
:28:13. > :28:21.this match for an awful long time. Paper-thin defending. The first one
:28:21. > :28:31.that St Helens have had in his second half. That high shot gave
:28:31. > :28:36.
:28:36. > :28:46.them the opportunity. James Roby jumped out, Lance Hohaia, a nice
:28:46. > :29:11.
:29:11. > :29:21.short ball. It was a little bit granted here. Jonny Lomax is such a
:29:21. > :29:51.
:29:51. > :29:56.tones that Mike Rush has masterminded. They have played some
:29:56. > :30:06.of their bigger clubs. He has tested them on Australian sound and
:30:06. > :30:09.
:30:09. > :30:16.given them a grounding. It pays off. Since Hirons -- St Helens, built on
:30:16. > :30:22.firm foundations. Seven miles separate these towns, but it is a
:30:22. > :30:27.very big distance in terms of pedigree at the moment. It is.
:30:27. > :30:32.Dennis Betts spoke about the confidence, and about it being
:30:32. > :30:38.paper-thin at times. I hope Widnes can keep their confidence and stay
:30:38. > :30:48.in this game. Send a very good at scarring back to back tries. --
:30:48. > :31:03.
:31:03. > :31:10.that. It is the last thing ibid, a big fella coming in to knock the
:31:10. > :31:19.living daylights out of you. -- the last thing you need. That was a
:31:19. > :31:26.great shot. Plenty down this side in terms of numbers, but the
:31:26. > :31:33.defence was also there to meet Hep Cahill. Clarke, on the halfway line,
:31:33. > :31:39.not the pass that was required. But the kick got away nonetheless. St
:31:39. > :31:45.Helens will start from 30 yards away from their own line.
:31:45. > :31:51.We were talking at half-time but St Helens are running close to
:31:51. > :31:58.stepping up a gear. We are witnessing that now. They are
:31:58. > :32:05.making easy yards up the field. They have just forced a penalty.
:32:06. > :32:14.Widnes seemed to be tiring. Widnes will have to step up if they are
:32:14. > :32:22.going to stay with this game. Free schools the difference, and
:32:22. > :32:32.you suspect it might get more than that before long -- 3 scores. This
:32:32. > :32:58.
:32:58. > :33:08.game is a real test of the spirit work rate of the Widnes defence.
:33:08. > :33:26.
:33:26. > :33:36.might be a question of offside and the referee is going to the video
:33:36. > :33:40.
:33:40. > :33:47.referee to make sure. I think Paul Wellens was on side. I think he was.
:33:47. > :33:54.We will have to see. St Helens, back-to-back sets. It gave them the
:33:54. > :34:02.opportunity to get into this area. You cannot see from that angle.
:34:02. > :34:07.is a strange role. Who is the player to his left? Flanagan? If he
:34:07. > :34:17.is in within ten yards of Paul Wellens when he collects the ball,
:34:17. > :34:27.it will not be a try. It is a churlish law. That is the rule and
:34:27. > :34:36.
:34:36. > :34:41.if he is within ten metres, it will playing no part in this move. And
:34:41. > :34:51.yet, in a letter of the law, if he is within ten metres when the ball
:34:51. > :34:57.
:34:57. > :35:03.is collected by Paul Wellens, it for the sake of the try, that it is
:35:03. > :35:08.given. He had nothing to do with this. How good is Paul Wellens in
:35:08. > :35:16.that area? How many times have we seen him challenge for that type of
:35:16. > :35:26.kick. He has made his mind up and house, thank goodness, given the
:35:26. > :35:35.
:35:35. > :35:45.career, Paul Wellens, today. It is a landmark he has reached today and
:35:45. > :35:54.
:35:54. > :35:59.hasn't he? Perhaps not the best kicker at the club. I think that
:35:59. > :36:09.attribute falls to Tony Foster, but he is not playing today -- Jamie
:36:09. > :36:10.
:36:10. > :36:17.Foster. But this fella is not bad. He puts it over, six out of seven.
:36:17. > :36:24.40 points for St Helens. It is a question of retaining pride for
:36:24. > :36:29.Widnes. We can see the try again. It was a lovely kick from Lomax and
:36:29. > :36:35.Paul Wellens gets on the end of it. It is the second time in this half
:36:35. > :36:40.that St Helens have had back-to- back sets from Widnes giving
:36:40. > :36:44.possession away. You cannot do that. They have too many good players
:36:44. > :36:53.that will hurt you. Widnes need to make sure their discipline is good
:36:53. > :37:03.for the next 25 minutes. And that has worked out just fine! That will
:37:03. > :37:34.
:37:34. > :37:43.the nickname... Torville. Craven was fumbling a little. Widnes are
:37:43. > :37:52.tapping at the door. That was an untidy pass by Clarke. That sums up
:37:52. > :38:02.the afternoon. City macro will be disappointed with that. -- Widnes.
:38:02. > :38:21.
:38:21. > :38:31.They came up with a couple of loose they can take these gambles now.
:38:31. > :39:06.
:39:06. > :39:16.They're camp. James Roby is is becoming more and more involved.
:39:16. > :39:27.
:39:27. > :39:33.It is slow play. Clarke's binned it back. -- -- spinning it back. You'd
:39:33. > :39:38.have to have the imagination but that would spark a comeback.
:39:38. > :39:44.shows that St Helens are vulnerable. We have seen Widnes do it twice in
:39:44. > :39:48.this game. St Helens have scored two tries off the back. Pushing a
:39:48. > :39:55.little bit, and they come up with the error and in the next set,
:39:55. > :39:59.lovely play from the Widnes side. You see him digging himself under
:39:59. > :40:09.the defenders and burrowing into the try-line. He made it difficult
:40:09. > :40:23.
:40:23. > :40:28.for the defenders. Lomax could not attempt. A word for a player who
:40:28. > :40:38.graced both these sides, Steve Prescott. And his mate, Paul
:40:38. > :40:47.Sculthorpe, and Steve Prescott was given five months to live... That
:40:47. > :40:55.was a terrific live. -- kick. But, five years on, he is taking on
:40:55. > :41:03.wonderful challenger has. His latest has taken him over to Paris,
:41:03. > :41:08.entering the Paris marathon, with Paul Sculthorpe. Then they will
:41:08. > :41:12.kayak across the Channel and then a cycle from Dover and then they
:41:12. > :41:17.finish with the London Marathon. spoke to Paul Sculthorpe last week.
:41:18. > :41:24.I said he looked fitter now than when he played. I wish them the
:41:24. > :41:33.best with that. It is an absolute marathon. At he is an inspiration,
:41:33. > :41:38.Steve Prescott. -- and he is. The marathon will be on BBC next Sunday
:41:38. > :41:48.and keep an eye out for Steve Prescott. Things are looking up for
:41:48. > :41:48.
:41:49. > :41:55.Widnes. They had a back to back set. We see them again. In if they were
:41:55. > :42:02.to get another try, doubt might appear in the mind of St Helens.
:42:02. > :42:12.But they cannot afford to do that, can they? St Helens are back to the
:42:12. > :42:12.
:42:12. > :42:54.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds
:42:54. > :43:01.penalty has gone to St Helens. can see Ben Cross going into the
:43:01. > :43:10.challenge. I am not sure there is too much malice in that, he seemed
:43:10. > :43:20.to slip up after the contract. -- contact. And now a word from the
:43:20. > :43:20.
:43:20. > :43:25.referee. Be careful where it is going. We have to be very careful.
:43:25. > :43:30.The Widnes fans are not happy and Ben Cross is certainly not happy.
:43:30. > :43:36.He anticipated the tackle and just pushed the arm, maybe not with
:43:36. > :43:46.intent, but he caught McCarthy- Scarsbrook at around the bottom of
:43:46. > :44:08.
:44:08. > :44:18.the chin. And here he is, McCarthy- this lark is about. But wrapped up
:44:18. > :44:42.
:44:42. > :44:47.handled that well. We saw Paul Wellens score a try from a similar
:44:47. > :44:56.kick. This time, he got himself in the right position and came up with
:44:56. > :45:06.the ball. Jack Owens is 17 years of age. What were you doing when you
:45:06. > :45:25.
:45:25. > :45:35.the sidelines. I have Jamie Foster with mate. Is it getting a bit too
:45:35. > :45:38.
:45:38. > :45:48.comfortable? At think so. It is NIE's breadth of experience you
:45:48. > :45:51.
:45:51. > :46:01.have. It says. -- it is. And do you fancy a trip to Wembley? Death and
:46:01. > :46:05.
:46:05. > :46:13.La. -- definitely. Jamie Foster has been to Wembley a few times, but
:46:14. > :46:23.support same Wigan! That is unforgivable, supporting one team
:46:24. > :46:48.
:46:48. > :46:58.territory in the second half. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. St Helens make it
:46:58. > :46:58.
:46:59. > :47:04.very difficult for Widnes to gain any momentum. Jon Clarke tried to
:47:04. > :47:14.play, and straightaway comes under pressure. Dennis Betts has talked
:47:14. > :47:14.
:47:14. > :47:21.about the little victories he has seen on the field. What kind of
:47:21. > :47:30.little victories has he seen today? I think St Helens have been
:47:30. > :47:40.threatened a few times. They are not letting St Paul away from them
:47:40. > :47:42.
:47:42. > :47:52.too much. -- they are not letting Saints Paul away from them to watch.
:47:52. > :47:52.
:47:52. > :48:37.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds
:48:37. > :48:47.in the first half. St Helens are really trying to turn the screw
:48:47. > :48:55.
:48:55. > :49:00.here. Good kick, taken by Francis Meli. Adam Swift wants to get
:49:00. > :49:07.involved here. He will remember his debut. Tough circumstances. He has
:49:07. > :49:14.handled himself well. Danny Craven has put high balls in his area and
:49:14. > :49:23.he has dealt with them consistently. He has handled himself extremely
:49:23. > :49:33.well. St Helens is beginning to wind things up again. The dam may
:49:33. > :50:03.
:50:03. > :50:12.very good. They are making it extremely difficult for Widnes.
:50:12. > :50:22.Widnes need to make sure they complete. 12 minutes left. Once we
:50:22. > :50:22.
:50:22. > :51:06.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds
:51:06. > :51:16.finish, there is the red Button. command of he went. -- James Roby
:51:16. > :51:23.
:51:23. > :51:33.saw a bit of a gap and off he went. Now with an opportunity! Patrick Ah
:51:33. > :51:50.
:51:50. > :52:00.Van's way was blocked. Shenton was Widnes's target is not to concede
:52:00. > :52:02.
:52:02. > :52:12.any more. Jon Clarke, 33 years of age, very much the old man of the
:52:12. > :52:22.game. That was a desperate act of a man who knows his team is well and
:52:22. > :52:28.
:52:28. > :52:38.truly beaten. In tis difficult. You probably want to get into the game.
:52:38. > :52:41.
:52:41. > :52:51.Anthony Laffranchi, the former Australian international. For a
:52:51. > :52:52.
:52:52. > :53:02.moment, there was a space for Wellens to run into. Halcrow was
:53:02. > :53:04.
:53:04. > :53:14.that by Jack Owens? -- how cool was that? Yellow card produced. That
:53:14. > :53:19.
:53:19. > :53:29.was James Roby. The referee says, off you go. He tried to be a bit
:53:29. > :53:36.
:53:36. > :53:46.sneaky. It is a chance for Widnes. St Helens are down to 12th man. --
:53:46. > :53:49.
:53:49. > :53:59.down to 12 men. St Helens are down to 12 men. There might be a problem
:53:59. > :53:59.
:53:59. > :54:04.here for Anthony Laffranchi. Everything St Helens have done,
:54:04. > :54:11.pretty much for the past 70 minutes, have come on the back of James Roby.
:54:11. > :54:21.He has gone for the rest of the game. Offensively, St Helens have a
:54:21. > :54:40.
:54:40. > :54:50.big thing taken off them. This is a big finish? -- the heart. Paddy
:54:50. > :55:19.
:55:19. > :55:25.by Adam Swift. Not bad. Anthony Laffranchi has been taken to the
:55:25. > :55:35.dressing room to have his head looked at. He has a nasty gash on
:55:35. > :55:37.
:55:37. > :55:47.his head. Danny Craven, with that high kick, that was great. How many
:55:47. > :55:59.
:55:59. > :56:09.times have we seen back to back set push a dense in the big lead. --
:56:09. > :56:12.
:56:12. > :56:22.push a dent. Hep Cahill! Hope springs in abundance. Widnes have a
:56:22. > :56:36.
:56:36. > :56:46.try! Have they got the time, with There was nothing Wellens could do
:56:46. > :56:51.
:56:51. > :56:56.about that. That was a great finish from Hep Cahill. The gap is down to
:56:56. > :57:06.12. You never know. You never know. Strange things happen in this game.
:57:06. > :57:07.
:57:07. > :57:17.Six minutes left. If Widnes score of this next set, there will be
:57:17. > :57:18.
:57:18. > :57:28.some panic in the St Helens team. You feel there is a bit of momentum
:57:28. > :57:32.
:57:32. > :57:35.now for Widnes, a bit of belief. Saints have gone down to 12 men.
:57:35. > :57:40.Helens might have taken their foot off the accelerator a little,
:57:40. > :57:50.thinking the job was done, but the unexpected exit of James Roby and
:57:50. > :57:51.
:57:51. > :58:01.then that try, suddenly it is not such a gap between them. James Roby
:58:01. > :58:06.
:58:06. > :58:16.is looking with a grimace from the sidelines. There is a hint of
:58:16. > :58:40.
:58:40. > :58:50.referee says it is not stolen. There is an opportunity, and a
:58:50. > :59:15.
:59:15. > :59:25.penalty for Widnes! What a chance! They have lost a little ground.
:59:25. > :00:01.
:00:01. > :00:11.They are desperate to keep it alive another look. Jon Clarke spotted an
:00:11. > :00:27.
:00:27. > :00:33.hard. If he touch the line, you would have thought the touch judge
:00:33. > :00:40.would have called it. The plant is left foot did not seem to hit the
:00:40. > :00:47.line. This will tell us. What a moment, if this is given. Patrick
:00:47. > :00:54.Ah Van with plenty of power. Did he touch the line there? What do you
:00:54. > :01:03.reckon? Well, if I am brutally honest, I have not got a clue. It
:01:03. > :01:11.is difficult to tell. Does he get the ball down? It is a difficult
:01:11. > :01:16.angle to tell. This is a big decision from the video referee.
:01:16. > :01:24.There is nothing wrong there in terms of what is happening up front.
:01:24. > :01:29.The touchdown looked fine. But the question is... We are trying to
:01:29. > :01:35.hold the frame. The frame where he touches down is this frame. The
:01:35. > :01:41.ball has touched down there. That is where it has frozen. You would
:01:41. > :01:46.have to give the benefit of the doubt. It is impossible to tell
:01:46. > :01:53.from the angles we have seen. It looks OK to me. Does he have
:01:53. > :01:59.control? He does. Even with the technology, with the his camera
:01:59. > :02:03.angles, it is almost impossible. What did referees do before we had
:02:03. > :02:11.the video referee? They simply guest on occasions like this and we
:02:11. > :02:19.might be left guessing the at. Did his left foot touch the line?
:02:19. > :02:25.is it in the air?! It's is a big decision he has to make. If this is
:02:25. > :02:30.given... How long do we have to play? We still have four minutes.
:02:30. > :02:40.If this is given and he kicks the goal, which is not a given, we have
:02:40. > :02:42.
:02:42. > :02:50.a real finish. He has to get this right, if he can. Frame by painful
:02:50. > :02:58.frame. Widnes fans wanted given. has got himself in a great position,
:02:58. > :03:02.Patrick Ah Van, with the defenders coming after him. There is nothing
:03:02. > :03:12.wrong with the grounding. We are trying to marry the grounding and
:03:12. > :03:18.then twisted around. What will he give? Try! Widnes fans reach for
:03:18. > :03:27.the air. Widnes might just be reaching for the impossible. Just a
:03:27. > :03:35.few minutes ago and suddenly, from a try, comes the kick. He needs
:03:35. > :03:42.this. He needs this. If he puts this over, one try, one goal puts
:03:42. > :03:49.it level. And it has gone wide. A question of millimetres on the try
:03:49. > :03:56.and equally a question of mm. was a great effort. I thought it
:03:56. > :04:06.was going to bend it in, but a great finish on the try. They have
:04:06. > :04:06.
:04:06. > :04:10.momentum. I think they will run out of time. The mathematics for those
:04:10. > :04:16.not up to date with rugby league scoring, they will have to score
:04:16. > :04:26.twice. The conversion having been missed, that is how big the kick
:04:26. > :04:30.was. Widnes is still have to score twice. This set is key to it all.
:04:30. > :04:37.If St Helens can keep Widnes pin- down, they are into the draw for
:04:37. > :04:44.the next round, should Widnes find a way through. It is a better
:04:44. > :04:50.finish than we dared imagine a short while ago. Widnes battling to
:04:50. > :04:57.the end. Suddenly, tension among the coaches. Penalty for Widnes,
:04:57. > :05:03.that will carry them into the opponents' half. They have to score.
:05:03. > :05:13.Certainly this last set of six. This is the only chance. They will
:05:13. > :05:13.
:05:13. > :05:21.throw everything they have got at this St Helens team. Hep Cahill has
:05:21. > :05:29.led with such mighty, muscular example all day. Wanting to play it
:05:29. > :05:37.quickly. They have the options. Whyte scores! It is absolutely
:05:37. > :05:43.incredible! --ish scores. They still need another, but there is
:05:43. > :05:50.just about enough time -- Lloyd White with the try. Brilliant play
:05:50. > :05:54.from Lloyd White. He tested the defence. McCarthy-Scarsbrook taking
:05:54. > :06:03.the dummy on that occasion. But to get through that gap, he has no
:06:03. > :06:09.right to score from that position. He got it nice and low. Patrick Ah
:06:09. > :06:15.Van kicked the goal quickly. A he was not taking any time. While we
:06:15. > :06:21.watched the conversion, he put the cake between the sticks. It is
:06:21. > :06:27.Widnes, 38, St Helens 40. My word. We were tongue-in-cheek when we
:06:27. > :06:32.were talking about the comeback even ten minutes ago. 15 minutes
:06:32. > :06:38.ago, it was absolutely impossible. What do they say about momentum in
:06:38. > :06:44.this game? Is it is unbelievable. We never thought they could get
:06:44. > :06:49.back into this game. When James Roby gave the penalty away and got
:06:49. > :06:56.himself into the sin-bin. seconds left to play. Widnes might
:06:56. > :07:00.get three tackles out of this. St Helens, all they have to do is put
:07:01. > :07:10.their shoulders into this, bent their backs and stop Widnes. Seven
:07:11. > :07:12.
:07:12. > :07:19.seconds. Saints beaten at the last early this year, but not this time.
:07:19. > :07:26.The next stoppage will be at the end of it. Widnes trying everything.
:07:26. > :07:31.WHISTLE BLOWS And by the skin of their teeth, they have escaped with
:07:31. > :07:41.this cup-tie. Widnes almost pulling off the impossible. What about that
:07:41. > :07:44.
:07:44. > :07:50.for a finish? A fantastic finish. We it was slipping away -- we felt.
:07:50. > :08:00.Jonny Lomax was probably the stand out for me. He has this afternoon's
:08:00. > :08:06.man of the match. He was pretty good in three or four different
:08:06. > :08:11.plays for the St Helens team and kept them on the front foot. Widnes
:08:12. > :08:18.gave a great account of themselves. Paul Wellens, his try, it seemed
:08:18. > :08:26.simply a question of how many more St Helens were going to score. And
:08:26. > :08:32.Widnes, with 22 points, in the final minutes, very near the
:08:32. > :08:42.snatched it for Widnes. What eight- game. St Helens have won it and
:08:42. > :08:45.
:08:45. > :08:49.Tanya is with Mike Rush. Relieve? Disappointed, to be honest. We
:08:49. > :08:54.started maybe playing for individuals rather than the team.
:08:54. > :08:59.We have seen Widnes do that to Wigan earlier in the year and we
:08:59. > :09:05.knew it was coming. It is disappointing. Were they
:09:05. > :09:11.complacent? Too comfortable at times? That is not good enough. We
:09:11. > :09:18.are better than that as a team and as a group. We cannot afford to do
:09:18. > :09:25.this. But you are through to the next round. Yes, it is good.
:09:25. > :09:30.John Lomax, you are the man of the match. Can you hold on to the
:09:30. > :09:35.champagne with the strapped up hand? Widnes pushed has all the way
:09:35. > :09:42.to the end and we lost James Roby and they got on a roll and kept
:09:42. > :09:46.coming at us. As Mike Rush said, we will not be happy with the
:09:46. > :09:56.defensive effort and we will have to look at that and be honest with
:09:56. > :09:56.
:09:56. > :10:00.each other. He is it a bittersweet victory? Definitely. We have to be
:10:00. > :10:05.disappointed with the defence. I think it was energy rather than
:10:06. > :10:11.anything else. You are battered and bruised, including yourself. It is
:10:11. > :10:15.not too bad. I will keep its strapped up. You are still in the
:10:15. > :10:25.Challenge Cup. Well done. We can bring in Paul Wellens. That got
:10:25. > :10:30.quite close. It was an awful second half. When
:10:30. > :10:36.you switch off, the opposition come and burn you. It has been quite a
:10:36. > :10:41.month for you. You are a long way forward from way you were. Yes. You
:10:41. > :10:46.have to keep doing it, every week. You cannot perform inconsistently,
:10:46. > :10:50.and if you do that, you will be burned. We were fortunate to get
:10:50. > :10:56.out of that game. It seems you are an honest bunch and the senior
:10:56. > :11:06.players are taking the lead. have to be honest. If you turn in
:11:06. > :11:10.
:11:10. > :11:17.performances like that, well, you have to improve on that. Thank you.
:11:17. > :11:26.We will bring you more reaction to the game on the red button shortly.
:11:26. > :11:34.Widnes turned the possession around, did make? They made 10 errors in
:11:34. > :11:43.the end, compared to St Helens' six. It was as if, at the end, Widnes
:11:43. > :11:47.had won and St Helens have lost, given the reaction. St Helens have
:11:47. > :11:51.been in Super League for 16 years and at the top and Widnes had just
:11:51. > :11:57.come in. At the moment, Widnes, they have players who have played
:11:57. > :12:01.nationally, they have journey men from around and they have put a
:12:01. > :12:08.team together. They have already beat Wigan this year and should be
:12:08. > :12:15.proud of what they are doing. It is not easy to start. I imagine they
:12:15. > :12:20.have a five-year plan in place. Three or four years ago, we were
:12:20. > :12:27.close to the bottom of the table. It takes time and development of
:12:27. > :12:31.younger players. Positives and negatives. Absolutely. More
:12:31. > :12:38.positives in the second half. Do not take anything away from them.
:12:38. > :12:42.St Helens went to sleep. Widnes were on the front foot and
:12:42. > :12:49.enthusiastic and the crowd noise changed. We said if you can get the
:12:49. > :12:55.crowd behind you, you will win more than you lose. They have to work on
:12:55. > :13:05.the defence, when they have not got the ball, that is when they switch
:13:05. > :13:05.
:13:05. > :13:15.off. We can look at the results so far. There has been a shop today
:13:15. > :13:17.
:13:17. > :13:23.with Castleford going out at Burnaston. -- Featherstone. We will