:01:00. > :01:05.competition in rugby league. Standing 36 inches high and made of
:01:05. > :01:15.solid silver, the Challenge Cup has been the ultimate prize in the
:01:15. > :01:19.
:01:19. > :01:26.British game for 116 years. The likes of Bradford, Huddersfield and
:01:26. > :01:36.Wakefield enjoyed many early days in the sun. But nobody has dominated
:01:36. > :01:51.
:01:51. > :01:58.cups, a run that will possibly stand her ever. In recent years, Saint
:01:58. > :02:02.Helens have marked many victories, and so have Warrington. The walls
:02:02. > :02:08.other current cup kings with three wins in the last four seasons, and
:02:08. > :02:16.they will be hungry for another success this time around. The
:02:16. > :02:25.Challenge Cup: History, press stage, excitement, honour, power and glory.
:02:25. > :02:35.Rugby league at its very best. And here comes the star of the show,
:02:35. > :02:48.
:02:48. > :02:58.with me this afternoon who have plenty of history with the Challenge
:02:58. > :03:02.
:03:02. > :03:11.Cup. This trophy matters. Both of these two teams would have rather
:03:11. > :03:16.avoided each other, but good teams along the way. I don't want to
:03:16. > :03:24.resort to cliches, but in other sports, the cup final may not be a
:03:24. > :03:28.priority. But in rugby league, it is. Yes, it is the one you look at
:03:28. > :03:34.and want to win as a coach and player. The pressure gets so intense
:03:34. > :03:44.during the week because you know you have to get it right today. With the
:03:44. > :03:53.Challenge Cup, you need a win. Trapdoor football is back! Both
:03:53. > :03:57.these teams are pretty evenly matched. They probably know a little
:03:57. > :04:02.bit more about each other because of the recent encounter with each other
:04:02. > :04:07.then they probably like. Let's show you the fourth round weekend. And it
:04:07. > :04:12.very much as a weekend, because there were games last night, of
:04:12. > :04:22.course, and plenty of things over the weekend to come. Leeds and Wigan
:04:22. > :04:22.
:04:22. > :04:27.got through last night, and got through last night, and
:04:27. > :04:33.Doncaster was beaten. The game today is very much the big game. Tomorrow,
:04:33. > :04:43.you want to look out for the Cumbrian Derby, which is between
:04:43. > :04:48.
:04:48. > :04:58.Whitehaven and Workington. Here at Craven Park, now, it is Hull KR
:04:58. > :05:06.
:05:06. > :05:13.their history. A year later they returned, but they lost. In recent
:05:13. > :05:18.years, the cup has been cruel. Their best run came in 2006 when they
:05:19. > :05:22.reached the semis before losing to Saint Helens. Craig Sandercock is
:05:22. > :05:30.their coach and he will be looking for Michael Dobson to inspire them
:05:30. > :05:40.today. As for Saint Helens, they are the second most successful team in
:05:40. > :05:47.Challenge Cup history with 12 wins. They have lost three semifinals, the
:05:47. > :05:52.most recent two Wigan two years ago. Nathan Brown as their coach, one of
:05:52. > :05:59.many new faces. Today, he will be looking to Jon Wilkin to march the
:05:59. > :06:05.Saints forward. If you look at the last seven metres between these
:06:05. > :06:10.sides, Hull KR have won five of them. Their only defeat came in the
:06:10. > :06:14.Challenge Cup. That reinforces how strong they are. They seem to get
:06:14. > :06:24.better with a home-field advantage. They know the intimacy of the
:06:24. > :06:31.field, and Saint Helots had to come here. -- Saint Helens. This team
:06:31. > :06:35.will definitely create points. But can they defended well and after
:06:35. > :06:45.day? How much of an influence for that Game two weeks ago have on
:06:45. > :06:46.
:06:46. > :06:55.today's match? It was on the back of a very tight run of Easter games.
:06:55. > :07:03.They had to win. Saints were a little bit down, but both teams
:07:03. > :07:07.looked sprightly in the warm-ups. Hull KR's big problem has been
:07:08. > :07:17.conceding points. These three are the only Challenge Cup experienced
:07:18. > :07:22.
:07:22. > :07:29.Challenge Cup, you have to have a strong, on field leaders, and you
:07:29. > :07:37.don't have much better than Jon Wilkin. To be honest, his only
:07:37. > :07:44.responsibility will be to move the pack around the field. They also
:07:44. > :07:54.have this man here. Here's one of best players, very dynamic and
:07:54. > :08:04.offence and defence. When that man there, Michael Dobson, plays well,
:08:04. > :08:07.
:08:08. > :08:17.Hull KR plays well. And that's what they'll need. What he's trying to do
:08:18. > :08:18.
:08:18. > :08:23.is create opportunities. And Corey Paterson is just coming round the
:08:23. > :08:32.post now. He runs a good, hard line. He is one of the biggest hitters in
:08:32. > :08:38.the game. They'll be looking to him for all those special opportunities.
:08:38. > :08:42.Whenever I do rugby league, I always mention the size of the players.
:08:42. > :08:52.They are massive. Saint Helens do have a concern about size, don't
:08:52. > :08:54.
:08:54. > :09:04.they? Sometimes, they are a bit worried they are not big enough.
:09:04. > :09:07.
:09:07. > :09:11.will see a fair bit size in their team. When you match the two teams
:09:11. > :09:17.up, Saints, maybe not as big in the past, but when you see some of the
:09:17. > :09:23.players, they are big. To me, they all look massive! But sometimes,
:09:23. > :09:30.all look massive! But sometimes, there is a question. Who do want to
:09:30. > :09:37.talk about first? Michael Dobson and Jon Wilkin very important.
:09:37. > :09:44.kicking game is very important. They will have to get their hands on the
:09:44. > :09:53.ball. They are the ones who will dictate how they play in attack. It
:09:53. > :10:01.is really important they step up to the mark. Michael Dobson has a
:10:01. > :10:05.better John -- better kicking game than Jon Wilkin. John has to have a
:10:05. > :10:14.better kicking game than Michael Dobson. But how difficult will have
:10:14. > :10:18.to be for him? A tough challenge. Michael Dobson will be comfortable
:10:18. > :10:22.in his position. Jon Wilkin has been there for most of the season. I
:10:22. > :10:32.agree with Ian about the kicking game and agreed they should be the
:10:32. > :10:34.
:10:34. > :10:42.type of kicks we should see. With Jon Wilkin, he has better kicks,
:10:42. > :10:52.whereas Michael Dobson has more precision. Two big forwards. Corey
:10:52. > :10:57.Paterson. The big thing is, Paterson plays on the left-hand side. That is
:10:57. > :11:04.the side Dobson plays on. He likes to play the little, short pass and
:11:04. > :11:14.create a 1-on-1 tackle the opposition. They have all got most
:11:14. > :11:16.
:11:16. > :11:22.of them. They encourage second phase. They are the go to men.
:11:22. > :11:29.Paterson is fearsome, isn't he? He is a good player. I have been
:11:29. > :11:34.involved with him. A very skilful player, a big, strong player, but
:11:34. > :11:44.very adaptable. Three distinguished coaches alongside me. Let's hear
:11:44. > :11:57.
:11:57. > :12:04.from the team coaches involved, got them to change or their course.
:12:04. > :12:10.Is that true? We changed a couple of little things. Nothing too much.
:12:10. > :12:16.Attack hasn't been the problem. it strange, having played them just
:12:17. > :12:25.a couple of weeks ago? I little bit. At least we had a win a couple of
:12:25. > :12:31.weeks ago. You have had so many injuries but so many key players.
:12:31. > :12:38.The good thing is, the games we have been losing, the guys had been
:12:38. > :12:44.competing really hard. We have been under a fair bit of pressure, but
:12:44. > :12:50.hopefully, we have a little bit of experience in size. What do you take
:12:50. > :12:56.from the defeat here a couple of weeks ago? We got penalised 15-7,
:12:56. > :13:06.and a fair bit it was our fault. In some ways, we have a lot of
:13:06. > :13:08.
:13:08. > :13:16.compensating to do. How difficult has this season been? It has been
:13:16. > :13:21.extremely difficult. I really feel for Nathan Brown. We talk about a
:13:21. > :13:31.lot of players in key positions and he has had to include a a lot of
:13:31. > :13:41.
:13:41. > :13:47.young guys. That's always very hard. The danger is, if you change
:13:48. > :13:52.your calls, you might confuse our own players as well. Yes, they might
:13:52. > :14:02.change the way the attack but definitely the way they defend.
:14:02. > :14:09.
:14:09. > :14:14.Interesting to see what kind of shape they have defensively. It is
:14:14. > :14:20.just that muscle memory, that memory you have a great times in the
:14:20. > :14:24.channel -- Challenge Cup. It is a distraction from your week to week
:14:24. > :14:30.event. It gives you that impetus and special desire to do well. It
:14:30. > :14:35.doesn't matter about your form or where you won the league. Impetus is
:14:35. > :14:43.a big thing, isn't it, Ian? Nothing will change except both teams will
:14:43. > :14:48.have two kick well. The return of Gardner will combat Dobson 's
:14:48. > :14:54.kicking game, but it is vital you start well. Ian, Stephen Bryant,
:14:54. > :15:04.thank you very much for the moment. So, the teams are in the tunnel
:15:04. > :15:17.
:15:17. > :15:22.I am joined by Jonathan Davis today in a commentary. Something a bit
:15:22. > :15:28.different this year on the BBC commentary. We will be hearing from
:15:28. > :15:34.the video referee. If there is a decision that has to go to video
:15:34. > :15:38.referee, we will be able to hear it from him. It is again that oozes
:15:38. > :15:43.tradition and entertainment and a match that is very important for
:15:43. > :15:53.the immediate future of both of these clubs. They have both had
:15:53. > :15:56.
:15:56. > :16:01.their ups and downs so far in 2013. A decent crowd in here as well. We
:16:01. > :16:11.have one end that is close because of the new building work going on
:16:11. > :16:50.
:16:50. > :17:00.at Craven Park. This is the way Silverwood will be -- hour referee
:17:00. > :17:17.
:17:17. > :17:23.today is Richard Silverwood. -- our screens for another goal round.
:17:23. > :17:33.Wembley in August, but a long hard road between HET and there. It is a
:17:33. > :17:36.
:17:36. > :17:46.penalty straight away. -- between here and there. I think Wellens had
:17:46. > :18:09.
:18:09. > :18:19.he's fought out of play. -- had his inconsistent. Their defence has not
:18:19. > :18:19.
:18:19. > :20:53.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:20:53. > :21:03.to push back to be 12 metre mark. There is a lot of work for Hull KR
:21:03. > :21:03.
:21:03. > :22:06.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:22:06. > :22:13.the kick. -- the go to man with the Did you see where contact was made?
:22:13. > :22:23.I did not. I am not convinced were contact has been made. It is going
:22:23. > :22:23.
:22:23. > :23:24.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:23:24. > :23:34.on report. That was definitely a we see the knock-on effect. --
:23:34. > :23:56.
:23:56. > :24:06.impact since his arrival. St Helens's defence is being tested to
:24:06. > :24:06.
:24:06. > :24:48.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:24:48. > :24:52.but he had to wrap the ball. Saints get away without conceding
:24:52. > :25:02.here, they will be patting themselves on the back. Here is
:25:02. > :25:02.
:25:02. > :26:25.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:26:25. > :26:35.their defensive line-up. He might have hurt himself, but he is going
:26:35. > :26:35.
:26:35. > :28:20.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:28:20. > :28:30.to carry on for the time being. meantime, Josh Hodge and his
:28:30. > :28:30.
:28:30. > :29:13.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:29:13. > :29:23.jogging a little further. -- Josh what they need to do because they
:29:23. > :29:46.
:29:46. > :29:56.charge. I think he was just been clumsy. -- being clumsy. They need
:29:56. > :29:56.
:29:56. > :30:36.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:30:36. > :30:41.Melly. Here we go again. And Saint Helens defending has been absolutely
:30:41. > :30:51.superb so far, but how long can they hang on? They really are tested
:30:51. > :31:14.
:31:14. > :31:20.Saint Helens still hanging on. The referees not sure! For the first
:31:20. > :31:30.time, we will hear from the video referee. Offside, onside is what we
:31:30. > :31:32.
:31:32. > :31:42.are looking for. We are looking at the kick from Eden. OK, freeze in on
:31:42. > :31:58.
:31:58. > :32:08.the cake. Let's run it through now. He is onside. Clearly onside.
:32:08. > :32:36.
:32:37. > :32:45.try is given! He does exceptionally pinpoint kick in the end. The kick
:32:45. > :32:55.before to score the try was just the same! So here comes Dobson, with a
:32:55. > :32:58.
:32:58. > :33:00.chance to turn a four into six. Over chance to turn a four into six. Over
:33:00. > :33:10.chance to turn a four into six. Over chance to turn a four into six. Over
:33:10. > :33:12.
:33:12. > :33:17.it goes. It would be so easy for Craig Hall to overrun, but he
:33:17. > :33:22.actually just stopped. And the timing of the run is superb. It is
:33:22. > :33:32.so easy to overrun those things. He just stood still and accelerated off
:33:32. > :33:33.
:33:33. > :33:38.the mark. How important is that score for Hull Kingston Rovers? Very
:33:38. > :33:45.important. They have had all the pressure and attack. They have been
:33:45. > :33:52.asking questions and the quality of the Saints defence has held out.
:33:52. > :34:00.They will be looking again to show their wares. What are you saying? It
:34:00. > :34:06.is pretty hectic down here. These Saint Helen's players were giving
:34:06. > :34:13.Michael Dobson some special attention. Even off-camera, years
:34:13. > :34:18.organising absolutely everything for Hull KR. Saint Helens having to do
:34:18. > :34:27.so much defence. Is speculation that he might the honours way to Saint
:34:27. > :34:34.Helens. Here is Dobson again on that left vote. He has found a bit of
:34:34. > :34:44.Green space to plant at ball. That just gives them a few extra seconds
:34:44. > :34:46.
:34:46. > :34:56.to get up on the defensive line and make the tackle a good one. Keep it
:34:56. > :35:29.
:35:29. > :35:34.simple. I have been impressed. again here. No yard is being made.
:35:34. > :35:44.That is a bomb tried. With Challenge Cup games, you have to take every
:35:44. > :35:47.opportunity you are given. Watch. David Hodgson has to gather that and
:35:47. > :35:57.get diving at the corner. He would have scored that had he taken the
:35:57. > :36:16.
:36:16. > :36:22.ball. In the meantime, in a bad way terms of the amount of pressure Hull
:36:22. > :36:32.Kingston Rovers have had. I can only reinforce that Saints have
:36:32. > :36:32.
:36:32. > :36:37.contributed to that. There are some fundamentals you have to get right
:36:37. > :36:47.first. With possession, they need to put their hands up now, the Saints
:36:47. > :36:50.
:36:50. > :36:55.Helens forwards. This is the tackle. Again, very difficult. My
:36:55. > :37:00.instinct for you would not be on the floor for nothing. He comes in. As a
:37:00. > :37:08.winger, when you come in, you have to make sure the ball does not get
:37:08. > :37:13.out of that player's hands. With a shoulder tackle being banned, it is
:37:13. > :37:23.a very difficult skill for those wingers to do. Aid Gardner is not
:37:23. > :37:23.
:37:23. > :37:33.the kind of player that does that kind of thing for fun, does he?
:37:33. > :37:39.he an innocent in all of this? don't think so. It is the timing.
:37:40. > :37:43.Once you are defeated on the fringe, if one of your inside defenders gets
:37:43. > :37:48.caught out, you're outside to be but have to make a decision to come out
:37:48. > :37:58.together. Once you've made that decision to come in, you've got to
:37:58. > :38:20.
:38:21. > :38:25.get there quickly. It is a difficult winger. If you are rushing in, you
:38:25. > :38:29.have two stop the ball going out, and sometimes happened so quickly,
:38:29. > :38:39.you can't get your hands out. Another penalty for Hull Kingston
:38:39. > :39:01.
:39:01. > :39:08.Rovers. Some good defending from second try! Thoroughly deserved.
:39:08. > :39:14.10-0 with lead now. Pressure has been good, but once again, rather
:39:14. > :39:24.than a scrum Saint Helens, defensively, it is an attacking
:39:24. > :39:27.
:39:27. > :39:37.penalty for Hull KR. Six points. What a terrific start he has had!
:39:37. > :39:38.
:39:38. > :39:47.Terrific start. Great goal-line play. Turns it back inside with a
:39:47. > :39:53.clever ball, and he is the right shape and size. An impossible tackle
:39:53. > :40:03.for Josh Jones to make there. Michael Dobson with a very clickable
:40:03. > :40:03.
:40:04. > :40:13.conversion attempt. And how Kingston Rovers lead from 6-0 to 12-0 now.
:40:13. > :40:20.How Kingston Rovers in control of this match now. Here it is in slow
:40:21. > :40:28.motion. The only chance you've got that is to try to get your body
:40:28. > :40:37.underneath the ball so they can't get it down. How Kingston Rovers
:40:37. > :40:45.leading him by 12 zero. Absolutely dominating this game at the moment.
:40:45. > :40:55.77% possession, 79% territory. again, four penalties and four
:40:55. > :40:59.
:40:59. > :41:07.errors. 20 minutes gone, and they have made eight errors. Some news on
:41:07. > :41:17.the touchline? Chris Welham, his head is clear. He has had the
:41:17. > :41:43.
:41:43. > :41:50.stuffing knocked out of him. Cheers the type of team back and take this
:41:50. > :42:00.kind of ammunition and comeback themselves. Jordan Turner has
:42:00. > :42:31.
:42:31. > :42:41.managed to make it to the 30 metre saying. None given, none taken, high
:42:41. > :42:53.
:42:53. > :42:58.questions of this defence. The last minute has been busy! Hull Kingston
:42:58. > :43:06.Rovers to score an awful lot, but they also concede an awful lot. 12
:43:06. > :43:14.Super League games this season. Looking for a little bit that
:43:14. > :43:24.right-hand side. Hull Kingston Rovers now, and the referee says no
:43:24. > :43:30.
:43:30. > :43:37.advantage. That again is a new role advantage rule until the ball stops,
:43:37. > :43:47.and if no advantage has been taken, it comes back to that original. In
:43:47. > :43:57.essence, it is a free play. It is a very exciting concept they have
:43:57. > :44:06.
:44:06. > :44:13.escape from that temporary imprisonment inside their own half,
:44:13. > :44:22.looking to bring it back to Saint Helen's territory again. Kick away
:44:22. > :44:29.by Dobson. It will bounce towards the goal line. A terrific kick. I
:44:29. > :44:39.wall of red is up there. And here we go again. Possession and position.
:44:39. > :44:49.They need to complete the set now. Good kick, good field position.
:44:49. > :44:49.
:44:49. > :45:40.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:45:40. > :45:50.is the past. -- here is the pass. go. St Helens are in a good
:45:50. > :46:28.
:46:28. > :46:38.that was! -- try that was! And however, we need to hear from the
:46:38. > :46:48.video referee. I think be obstruction related back to the
:46:48. > :46:51.
:46:51. > :47:01.passing field. We need to find out who was the last player on the ball.
:47:01. > :47:09.
:47:09. > :47:15.There is nothing at the mourn the - - at the moment. We need to go back.
:47:15. > :47:22.He goes forward as the ball is played. He is just standing his
:47:22. > :47:32.ground at that stage. He is in front of the ball. Let us see what
:47:32. > :47:36.
:47:36. > :47:45.happens to the defenders. Let us go back to that. As the ball is played,
:47:45. > :47:51.he steps forward. Hodgson is the player involved. He is there on the
:47:51. > :47:58.tackle. There is plenty of time to readjust. Let us run it right
:47:58. > :48:08.through to the grounding, please. There are still numbers in the
:48:08. > :48:19.
:48:19. > :48:29.tackle available. I think we know what the decision is. It is a try
:48:29. > :48:29.
:48:29. > :49:28.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:49:28. > :49:38.and! No obstruction. -- it is a finish. It was very simple. A great
:49:38. > :49:38.
:49:38. > :50:56.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:50:56. > :51:06.conversion because it get important Sia Soliola is in hot pursuit. How
:51:06. > :51:27.
:51:27. > :51:37.quickly the dynamics of a game can Welham. He has been given an
:51:37. > :51:56.
:51:56. > :52:06.Helens are trying to get back. This is a great game. They are just
:52:06. > :52:06.
:52:06. > :52:58.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:52:58. > :53:08.collect it. So, off we go again. St Helens are defending tight to make
:53:08. > :53:08.
:53:08. > :54:20.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:54:20. > :54:30.sure Hull Kingston Rovers cannot Puletua is back. He makes such a
:54:30. > :54:55.
:54:55. > :55:05.needs half-time to come. He is not communicating of getting into
:55:05. > :55:15.position. This is three tackles inside their own 10 metres for Hull
:55:15. > :55:30.
:55:30. > :55:40.good call. Just watch where he is. Nobody can question the referee's
:55:40. > :55:40.
:55:40. > :57:48.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:57:48. > :57:58.court because he is in the best Burns. Francis Meli is in trouble
:57:58. > :58:12.
:58:12. > :58:21.though. I think they have blown arm. I am not surprised. Look how
:58:21. > :58:30.hard he hit his head. That is a sickening shock, looking how loose
:58:30. > :58:39.his head is. He has got to go for that, surely? I think he has. This
:58:39. > :58:46.is a big decision in the context of this match. Sometimes there winner
:58:46. > :58:56.has to stand off or go in and make a decision what to do. -- sometimes
:58:56. > :58:56.
:58:56. > :59:06.the winger. A red card. From the moment he made contact you suspect
:59:06. > :59:11.
:59:11. > :59:21.he knew his game was over. The fact his arm is injured shows just how
:59:21. > :59:29.
:59:29. > :59:39.hard he hit Francis Meli around the it? I hope no-one is going to have
:59:39. > :59:45.at any arguments with that red card. St Helens are down to 12 men for
:59:45. > :59:55.the rest of this game. 47 minutes left to play. Hull Kingston Rovers
:59:55. > :59:55.
:59:55. > :01:02.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:01:02. > :01:12.Hull Kingston Rovers making their advantage count. Unfortunately, on
:01:12. > :01:17.
:01:17. > :01:27.the other side, just watch. You go in together all you stay out
:01:27. > :01:32.
:01:32. > :01:42.together. That is an easy, easy finish for Craig Hall. Couple of big
:01:42. > :01:44.
:01:44. > :01:50.moments in the game, then. Advantage grabbed by Craig Hall. And a chance
:01:50. > :02:00.here for Michael Dobson to make this a 12 point margin. 16-6 as it
:02:00. > :02:07.
:02:07. > :02:14.stands. Michael Dobson is quite phenomenal. He has hit the post
:02:14. > :02:19.without one, though, but 16-6. It might come back to haunt them. They
:02:19. > :02:27.have a man advantage and 810 point difference and Hull Kingston Rovers
:02:27. > :02:32.are sailing at the. Tom -- Jon Wilkin, that nervousness on the
:02:32. > :02:40.left-hand side. But hats off to Hull KR. They are attacking pretty well
:02:40. > :02:49.as well. 55 tries they have scored in the Super League. It is the fact
:02:49. > :02:59.they keep conceding that is their problem. Also, the Centre is a very
:02:59. > :03:06.specialised defensive position. you've got players playing out of
:03:06. > :03:13.position, Giles Jones plays second row, a difficult defensive position.
:03:13. > :03:18.Maybe, Young Percival will have to use the bench wisely. They will have
:03:18. > :03:28.to share the workload out. Saint Helens will have to work really hard
:03:28. > :03:48.
:03:48. > :03:58.with 12 people. But there are defence by Saint Helens. They have
:03:58. > :04:01.
:04:01. > :04:11.but Jordan Turner on the left-hand wing. They take all their time in
:04:11. > :04:29.
:04:29. > :04:39.left that will give to Saint Helens! Walked a scrum, take your time, good
:04:39. > :05:07.
:05:07. > :05:13.set of six. That has been missed by couple of weeks ago. And at the
:05:13. > :05:20.moment, well on course for a repeat here unless Saint Helens decide to
:05:20. > :05:30.be the master of miracles and pull something out of the hat here. Ten
:05:30. > :05:43.
:05:43. > :05:53.points the difference but a one-man That's the difference between a good
:05:53. > :05:57.
:05:57. > :06:07.and Paul kick: A great chase by James Green. An easy take. And bring
:06:07. > :06:07.
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:06:49. > :06:59.at this. Easily inside the 40. It bounces. It bounces outside the 20.
:06:59. > :07:06.
:07:06. > :07:13.Helens who are hanging on by their fingernails in this Challenge Cup
:07:13. > :07:23.tie. Cannot afford to concede again. It is a very big hill but might just
:07:23. > :07:23.
:07:23. > :08:06.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:08:06. > :08:10.down now. Half-time. It is a penalty for Saint Helens. I am sure they
:08:10. > :08:20.will not take too much time over this. The whistle has sounded
:08:20. > :08:22.
:08:22. > :08:30.half-time. All they will want to do is put this ball out of play. Jon
:08:30. > :08:40.Wilkin will have a look around. He could have had the option of just
:08:40. > :08:41.
:08:41. > :08:49.tapping and kicking it out of touch, but they will go for final play now.
:08:49. > :08:59.It is going to go out of play. For the most part, Saint Helen's need to
:08:59. > :09:01.
:09:01. > :09:11.get themselves back in the game. Hull Kingston Rovers looking good at
:09:11. > :09:31.
:09:31. > :09:38.halftime, leading Saint Helens by talking to Robbie and heads into the
:09:38. > :09:48.dressing room. And it has been a very good first half for Hull KR who
:09:48. > :09:50.
:09:50. > :09:57.are 16-6 up on a Saint Helen's side who were down to 12 men. Down to 12
:09:57. > :10:03.men, and they have it all to do, haven't they? Yes. They have also
:10:03. > :10:12.had no possession, really. Apart from that, we have not seen any
:10:12. > :10:18.position. -- possession. I have to say, when we were watching from the
:10:18. > :10:28.studio, as soon as it happened, you said, red card! We thought, here
:10:28. > :10:28.
:10:28. > :10:38.comes they try. And then merrily absolutely hitting it. The referee
:10:38. > :10:46.knows it is high. It is the right decision. It has cost Hull KR a
:10:46. > :10:54.try. How do you deal, when you are down to 12 men, in chasing the
:10:54. > :10:59.game? You need to get the boys organised a little bit. Nathan has a
:10:59. > :11:07.chance now to organise them. It is probably more interesting for the
:11:07. > :11:11.attacking side. Allah they now attacked 12 men? It can create
:11:11. > :11:16.problems for both sides. Some fantastic comeback victories when
:11:16. > :11:23.some sites have been down to 12 some sites have been down to 12
:11:23. > :11:29.men. Let's go to the tries. Plenty to admire, actually. The guys in the
:11:29. > :11:36.commentary box mentioned how much ball they had. And this is a really
:11:36. > :11:41.delicate ball here. Dobson kicked very well, but they rush up. He
:11:41. > :11:51.reads that really well and puts his wing in. Continual field position
:11:51. > :11:52.
:11:52. > :11:59.and good kicking. There were plenty of big hits, even before the sending
:11:59. > :12:09.off. One of the big hits directly led to Hull KR's second try. It did.
:12:09. > :12:10.
:12:10. > :12:18.It is a really tough call for the Saint Helens Winger. The rules are
:12:18. > :12:26.that it will be a penalty with a shoulder charge. Again, they have an
:12:26. > :12:35.offload, and a little delicate, subtle play from the dummy half. He
:12:35. > :12:42.exposes the defender on the opposite side. It gets a 1-on-1 defence.
:12:42. > :12:51.looked like Saint Helens would not get into that game. Don't actually
:12:51. > :12:56.think they got into Hull KR's half, did they? For the first 20 minutes,
:12:56. > :13:05.they literally didn't. Eventually, when they did, they made the most of
:13:05. > :13:13.it. Great passing. They tried the same play that Hull KR scored off.
:13:13. > :13:19.And then it goes to Wilkin. And Gardner does it pretty easy. And we
:13:20. > :13:25.wondered about Michael Dobson, who was hobbling. He did, you took a big
:13:25. > :13:32.knock. He has been back in the last couple of weeks, but not sure
:13:32. > :13:38.whether it came to that. At that point, you was struggling. But
:13:38. > :13:45.Saints have not been up that end. When we saw merrily sent off, the
:13:45. > :13:54.other question we were asking, why did Craig Hall not pass the ball?
:13:54. > :13:58.Down to 12 men and you have to be patient. It is the runner outside
:13:58. > :14:06.the ballplayer that drags the defender in. And then, they are
:14:06. > :14:15.short on a winger. A little bit late to react. They need to be patient
:14:15. > :14:20.now. They don't need to go to an edge. They need to drag the defence
:14:20. > :14:26.in. This is where Dobson and Burns are going to have to play a classic
:14:26. > :14:36.game. They will have two commit a defender. They are talking about
:14:36. > :14:41.
:14:41. > :14:46.what they need to do now because their opposition got 12. 18 years
:14:46. > :14:51.since Saint Helens have gone out at this stage. If Hull KR are going to
:14:51. > :15:01.keep calm and not go like a ball and eight china shop, Michael Dobson
:15:01. > :15:28.
:15:28. > :15:32.will be keen in dictating their He will be hard to defend against.
:15:32. > :15:42.The scoreline tells us they are still in it, although they have a
:15:42. > :15:42.
:15:42. > :15:52.lot to do. They were going to put the big hits on, when they? They
:15:52. > :15:53.
:15:53. > :16:03.were. There are a lot more twists and turns in this game, without a
:16:03. > :16:06.
:16:06. > :16:11.doubt. One thing Saints have to do is to keep hold of the possession.
:16:11. > :16:15.Hopefully we are in for a great second half. It is a big year for
:16:15. > :16:20.rugby league on the BBC. It will culminate with the World Cup final.
:16:20. > :16:26.You will be able to watch it live. When you want to know about the
:16:26. > :16:36.World Cup and its history, there is only one man to turn to - Ray
:16:36. > :16:50.
:16:50. > :16:56.great British side did well. They won the trophy. The problem for me
:16:56. > :17:05.was that I had to find a television set to watch the game on. We didn't
:17:05. > :17:11.have one in was Street, but my auntie had one And Me, myself, my
:17:11. > :17:15.dad, we crowded into my Auntie's front room for the final. It was a
:17:15. > :17:22.great game. Great excitement, but it had a big problem. I have
:17:22. > :17:26.memories of it, but the best memory, I haven't. That's because every 12
:17:26. > :17:32.minutes the number for bus used to go past my aunty's house and it
:17:32. > :17:37.used to stop outside her house and there was interference. People will
:17:37. > :17:42.remember the screen would go white, like a blizzard. I never saw the
:17:42. > :17:49.try. The bus was there for three or four minutes. The next I saw was
:17:49. > :17:59.France kicking off when Graham Britain had taken the go and gone
:17:59. > :18:01.
:18:01. > :18:11.for the try. Let us hope there are no buses going past when we begin
:18:11. > :18:18.
:18:18. > :18:28.our were World Cup coverage! -- our work World Cup coverage! When you
:18:28. > :18:30.
:18:30. > :18:40.see that footage, do you get used bombs? -- do you get goose bumps?
:18:40. > :18:41.
:18:41. > :18:51.do. It's amazing. I can't wait for things to get going. I could not be
:18:51. > :18:54.happier with the group of players we have available. Obviously you
:18:54. > :19:01.watch all the games, but you must be watching more rugby then you
:19:02. > :19:09.have ever watched as every player tries to get into your squad?
:19:09. > :19:19.Absolutely. Everything is in place, like our training, hotels, travel.
:19:19. > :19:21.
:19:21. > :19:31.It is the players. You are right. I looked along the bench and saw
:19:31. > :19:32.
:19:32. > :19:42.James with his faults in a beat. That is quite worrying. -- with
:19:42. > :19:50.
:19:50. > :19:55.fit. They have. Crabtree had three operations and got himself into
:19:55. > :20:05.great shape. He started the season of really well. You will be able to
:20:05. > :20:07.
:20:07. > :20:17.see a World Cup Special on iPlayer. That man has got a big 40 minutes
:20:17. > :20:24.ahead of him now. This is not over because they have not had much ball.
:20:24. > :20:34.It is time now for the experienced players to step up and have a we be
:20:34. > :20:51.
:20:52. > :21:01.clinical kicking game. -- 8 really were happy with the announcement in
:21:01. > :21:11.the middle of their Hoddle. However, we are ready to go again. -- in the
:21:11. > :21:46.
:21:46. > :21:52.Meli was sent off for a very high tackle on Craig Hall. They have it
:21:53. > :22:02.in their DNA to recover lost causes, at St Helens. So we will not be
:22:03. > :22:15.
:22:15. > :22:24.when they have a full complement of players. They really need to roll
:22:24. > :22:34.their sleeves up now. Eden got in there to make a big tackle and a
:22:34. > :22:34.
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:23:22. > :23:29.through. -- Neelie found a way had a crack at it. For technical
:23:29. > :23:36.reasons, we cannot hear from the video referee. Let us talk about it
:23:36. > :23:46.amongst ourselves. I think it is a try. That is my first reaction. It
:23:46. > :24:23.
:24:23. > :24:33.to make sure the grounding is Helens have found a way back into
:24:33. > :24:33.
:24:33. > :28:05.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:28:05. > :28:15.played. There are still 35 minutes held. He was being dragged to. --
:28:15. > :28:15.
:28:15. > :29:25.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:29:25. > :29:35.-- Wellens is back in the game again. Lance Hohaia got in the way
:29:35. > :29:35.
:29:35. > :31:12.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:31:12. > :31:22.Hodgson has got work to do. He come here. What do they do? Paterson
:31:22. > :31:25.
:31:26. > :31:35.steals the ball of welkin. Paterson took the ball of welkin! What a
:31:36. > :31:38.
:31:38. > :31:48.momentum changer. Hard trying to score on every play now. Solid in
:31:48. > :31:50.
:31:50. > :31:54.attack, solid in defence. Something will give again. Fifth tackle and 40
:31:54. > :32:04.metres away from his own line. They are looking for a good kick to
:32:04. > :32:07.
:32:07. > :32:16.finish again here. It might be the wind factor, but they are certainly
:32:16. > :32:26.starting their set with a little bit of wind pressure. How much work is
:32:26. > :32:52.
:32:52. > :33:02.loves coming to Hull Kingston Rovers! Great play by Saint Helens.
:33:02. > :33:02.
:33:02. > :33:12.What a start of the second half for Saint's! Percival just has to finish
:33:12. > :33:22.the play. Saw somebody on the ground, exploited that Ratko, Saints
:33:22. > :33:40.
:33:40. > :33:48.posted in numbers and had the getting away with a Challenge Cup
:33:48. > :33:56.win here. I think they have realised with a wind up their backs, it is
:33:56. > :34:00.very difficult to defend near your own goal-line. An early kick made
:34:00. > :34:08.Hull KR attack from distance. And now they are drifting, which makes
:34:08. > :34:15.it easier to defend with 12 men. first time Saint Helens have led
:34:15. > :34:25.today. And they do! 16 points for Hull Kingston Rovers, 18 for Saint
:34:25. > :34:25.
:34:25. > :34:35.Helens. Still plenty of begging to do, though. Takes the ball, sucks
:34:35. > :34:37.
:34:38. > :34:45.the two defenders in. Easy finish. And that is the Saint Helen 's
:34:45. > :34:55.chairman looking on. They will be looking for a good cup run. This
:34:55. > :35:14.
:35:14. > :35:24.Rovers back in possession here. happen themselves under pressure.
:35:24. > :35:56.
:35:56. > :36:06.minutes of the second half. A great and exciting game! The momentum was
:36:06. > :36:10.
:36:10. > :36:15.totally Saint Helens. Just throws a miracle pass. Behind for the first
:36:15. > :36:25.time, Hull Kingston Rovers. But what a position they find themselves in
:36:25. > :37:03.
:37:03. > :37:13.here! A St Helens line that assured opportunity was lost. Here's Dobson
:37:13. > :37:16.
:37:16. > :37:24.again now. Every time he hits the line, it is another ten, 15 steps
:37:24. > :37:34.before he is eventually stopped. Saint Helens hanging on again. And
:37:34. > :37:54.
:37:54. > :38:04.the way. Complete the sentence -- set and get a kick in and make the
:38:04. > :38:27.
:38:27. > :38:32.players looking tired now. A long way to go, though. 25 minutes, just
:38:32. > :38:38.under. And only one score is the difference here. A try to write the
:38:38. > :38:48.game off in the first half. And getting the one-man advantage. The
:38:48. > :39:14.
:39:14. > :39:18.here. It might have been knocked on. And another question is: Did he get
:39:18. > :39:24.the touchdown. I think he definitely got the touchdown. The question is
:39:24. > :39:34.was there a knock-on by a Hull KR player? The first knock-on was by
:39:34. > :39:58.
:39:58. > :40:08.Saint Helens. There is the first angle, just to make absolutely sure.
:40:08. > :40:10.
:40:10. > :40:20.It was a fabulous non-finish there. A fair finish. We are having a look
:40:20. > :40:26.
:40:26. > :40:31.at this again. Maybe he has not made a decision yet. Have a look at this.
:40:32. > :40:41.We know this probably doesn't matter in terms of whether it is a try or
:40:42. > :40:44.
:40:44. > :40:54.not. There's the Knockin. -- knock-on. Is he tried to see whether
:40:54. > :40:59.
:40:59. > :41:05.it goes backwards or not? This is the one in question. Yes, knock-on.
:41:05. > :41:13.Or does he go backwards? It would be very harsh on Saint Helens if your
:41:13. > :41:20.water that try. You can find any number of outcomes, but this one
:41:20. > :41:29.will be fairly straightforward here. He is going to tell us what that
:41:29. > :41:39.decision is in just a moment. Big moment in the game if this is given.
:41:39. > :41:42.
:41:42. > :41:52.will at least have the chance to have a go again. They put some big
:41:52. > :41:54.
:41:54. > :42:04.guns out there. Dobson can open up the fringes again. 24 minutes left
:42:04. > :42:18.
:42:18. > :42:28.to play. Hull Kingston Rovers are way through. They have set
:42:28. > :42:44.
:42:44. > :42:48.themselves up in a good position Kingston Rovers back in the lead!
:42:48. > :42:58.Again, it is the left-hand side defence for Saint Helens. Just
:42:58. > :43:27.
:43:27. > :43:37.Wellens defence, he takes the hook there. He just needed to move on.
:43:37. > :43:42.
:43:42. > :43:48.But it is easy to say difficult to do. 22-18 to Hull Kingston Rovers.
:43:48. > :43:58.The seasonal tips again back in their favour. Well Saint Helens have
:43:58. > :43:58.
:43:58. > :44:08.a response again here? Just over 20 minutes left to play. And nobody
:44:08. > :44:40.
:44:40. > :44:50.Eden. Just about hung on. In terms of an attacking runner, he had the
:44:50. > :45:18.
:45:18. > :45:26.potential to be as good as Billy the 5th. Here comes the last.
:45:26. > :45:36.Dobson is up there to make the tackle. He has plenty of support
:45:36. > :45:36.
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:47:57. > :48:07.Dobson spinning it higher. Very make their way down the field. St
:48:07. > :48:07.
:48:07. > :48:17.Helens are down a man - 13 against well. Another important tackle from
:48:17. > :48:32.
:48:32. > :48:42.The referee is having a look. There are about 8,000 people here who are
:48:42. > :48:59.
:48:59. > :49:09.in disbelief. Definitely a few goes out of play, even though it
:49:09. > :49:19.
:49:19. > :49:29.did bounce. It is as we were, so to speak. Paul Wellens's instincts
:49:29. > :49:30.
:49:30. > :49:40.were at their best there, weren't they? He does get into the field of
:49:40. > :50:09.
:50:09. > :50:19.it is play on as well. Tackle one. So he has got away with it. Four
:50:19. > :50:19.
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:52:24. > :52:34.get behind the ball. The players really being learned. -- being
:52:34. > :52:34.
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:53:24. > :53:34.Helens. -- some really clever foot although to be fair, that is he's
:53:34. > :54:00.
:54:00. > :54:10.happy face and his sad face. -- according to the referee. Lance
:54:10. > :54:37.
:54:37. > :54:47.Hohaia gives him a calf around the so it is a penalty for Hull
:54:47. > :55:12.
:55:12. > :55:20.of the players's Psyche? It is a natural thing for them to do.
:55:21. > :55:27.a new penalty. We have outlawed the shoulder charge. Went the outside
:55:27. > :55:37.people are running at quite a pace, they can cause an impact and it is
:55:37. > :55:37.
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:57:08. > :57:18.full-back. A tackle should have been made there. His team really
:57:18. > :57:20.
:57:20. > :57:30.needed that. Here is Dobson with a bit of momentum and since beat.
:57:30. > :57:30.
:57:30. > :58:26.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:58:26. > :58:36.He's trying to put St Helens back. on. Stuart Howarth is looking for
:58:36. > :58:43.
:58:43. > :58:49.the inside ball. Here is Wormsley again. -- Alex Walmsley again. What
:58:49. > :58:59.is stolen? Yes, it was. The referee said it was Yang's out. We need to
:58:59. > :59:28.
:59:28. > :59:37.see that again. -- it was appalled putting the high kicks up and
:59:37. > :59:47.causing trouble. That is the problem. They have to put a high
:59:47. > :59:47.
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:01:10. > :01:20.ball Ong Greg Eden. -- they have to half minutes to play. The last
:01:20. > :01:23.
:01:23. > :01:33.tackle here. And Hull Kingston Rovers are very relieved. A bit more
:01:33. > :01:37.
:01:37. > :01:47.control with Dobson. Hull Kingston Rovers trying to force their way
:01:47. > :01:48.
:01:48. > :01:58.back downfield. A Wembley Challenge Cup final at stake. The very first
:01:58. > :01:58.
:01:58. > :02:38.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:02:38. > :02:48.step here today. The referee gave It's taken! The referee says yes!
:02:48. > :03:25.
:03:25. > :03:35.And how Kingston Rovers, 26-18 with ball down. Great dummy running
:03:35. > :03:49.
:03:49. > :03:59.there. Lovely little kick by Eden. A Helens now. We said that before.
:03:59. > :04:04.
:04:04. > :04:10.Here's Dobson. 26-18 the score at the moment. He's put it wide. A
:04:10. > :04:20.try, conversion and penalty might take us to extra time. This
:04:20. > :04:26.
:04:26. > :04:36.certainly was a crucial moment. Clever play by Greg Eaton. -- Eden.
:04:36. > :04:43.
:04:43. > :04:47.Never see Billy Slater doing that, do you? He very bravely took it.
:04:47. > :04:57.Three and a half minutes to go! They have to score twice and they need
:04:57. > :05:10.
:05:10. > :05:20.that ball back. The clock is with again. Her tackles, three minutes to
:05:20. > :05:39.
:05:39. > :05:49.go. It looks like Hull Kingston your opportunity. Is there a miracle
:05:49. > :05:49.
:05:49. > :06:54.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 153 seconds
:06:54. > :07:04.back in the hands of Hull Kingston Rovers. Surely, that is it? Saint
:07:04. > :07:09.
:07:09. > :07:17.Helens a man short. Just running out of steam. Dobson has been named as
:07:17. > :07:27.man of the match. As voted for by her Majesty 's press. Michael
:07:27. > :07:29.
:07:29. > :07:39.Dobson, the official man of the match. Here's again. Last tackle. 40
:07:39. > :07:44.
:07:44. > :07:54.seconds left to play, and Dobson rolls it out of play. Michael
:07:54. > :07:54.
:07:54. > :08:01.Dobson, the Tetley's man of the match. The referee has not stopped
:08:01. > :08:08.the clock here, and I don't think Saint Helens are too bothered.
:08:08. > :08:14.has been a great effort by Saint Helens. After that definite red
:08:14. > :08:24.card, it has been an uphill struggle. But they've made it one
:08:24. > :08:29.
:08:30. > :08:36.hell of a struggle. The referee is just delaying the inevitable. 15
:08:36. > :08:45.seconds left to play. What's the point of him staying on the field?
:08:45. > :08:55.Red, red Robin is the anthem booming out of the terrace on the far side.
:08:55. > :09:05.The clock starts again. 15 seconds to go. Craig Hall kicks it out of
:09:05. > :09:08.
:09:08. > :09:14.play. This is it. Great win for Hull Kingston Rovers. The key point was
:09:14. > :09:19.that sending off. Just a little bit too much offensive skills for Saint
:09:19. > :09:29.Helens. They tried and played their best, but deservedly, Hull KR come
:09:29. > :09:29.
:09:29. > :09:36.out winners. The sending-off of Francis Meli was pivotal. A great
:09:36. > :09:43.response from Saints in the second half to get themselves into the lead
:09:43. > :09:50.at one stage, but Eden, Dobson, Salter making sure it is Hull
:09:50. > :10:00.Kingston Rovers who finally get through. So full-time, Hull Kingston
:10:00. > :10:07.
:10:07. > :10:17.Helens have gone out of the Challenge Cup in their opening
:10:17. > :10:28.
:10:28. > :10:38.round. Wigan the last side to knock deflating. But a win is a win. How
:10:38. > :10:41.
:10:41. > :10:45.keen was all start to the game? We didn't start very well. But pretty
:10:45. > :10:51.disappointed with that second half. How tough is it to play against 12
:10:51. > :11:01.men? People start of the playing a little bit. And we have to learn
:11:01. > :11:01.
:11:01. > :11:06.from that. How important is it for you to progress in this Challenge
:11:06. > :11:16.Cup? Massive. This is the first step in a long road. Congratulations,
:11:16. > :11:27.
:11:27. > :11:33.match. And there are the scores. You can see. A tight game between
:11:33. > :11:40.Sheffield and Dewsbury there as well. Just two points in it. The
:11:40. > :11:45.draw for the fifth round you can hear on BBC radio five live, half
:11:45. > :11:55.past three on Monday afternoon. And the next round you will be able to
:11:55. > :12:11.
:12:11. > :12:21.see live with us here on BBC1. 2:15 tough to you. I had my work cut out
:12:21. > :12:31.today. Just happy that the boys, though. They worked really hard.
:12:31. > :12:35.
:12:35. > :12:39.tough was that second half? Saints are a quality side. Full credit to
:12:39. > :12:45.them. But I am so proud of the boys are hanging in there and getting a
:12:45. > :12:50.win in the end. And a fantastic atmosphere. The fans here are
:12:50. > :13:00.amazing. I can't thank them enough. They are here every week, supporting
:13:00. > :13:04.
:13:04. > :13:12.us. A big thank you to the fans. Go get yourself patched up! A very
:13:12. > :13:18.happy dressing room, obviously. And so it should be! Saint Helens
:13:18. > :13:24.overcame a sticky period. And they should be pleased. A great boost for
:13:24. > :13:29.them as a team and club. Hopefully, they can go even further in the
:13:29. > :13:34.competition. That is a victorious dressing room, and that is the away
:13:35. > :13:41.dressing room. Can you guess what Nathan Brown may be saying?
:13:41. > :13:44.talked about the proud history of the club. He would be saying, we had
:13:44. > :13:48.opportunities in the second half. It was about opportunities they
:13:48. > :13:53.missed. A couple of opportunities where they had space or where they
:13:53. > :13:57.could have made an extra tackle. I think your talk about the focus on
:13:57. > :14:03.what they need to do for the rest of the season because their season has
:14:03. > :14:13.not finished. Michael Dobson may have got man of the match, but let's
:14:13. > :14:21.
:14:21. > :14:31.look at the man who was instrumental. That space there that
:14:31. > :14:36.
:14:36. > :14:46.has been opened up. To all four points in the game at that stage.
:14:46. > :14:47.
:14:47. > :14:52.Are we giving him credit for this cake? We didn't think the kick was
:14:52. > :15:00.on, but we thought his instincts were good. He finds space and
:15:00. > :15:08.creates opportunities. That was a brave act. I thought state -- Saints
:15:08. > :15:16.were starting to come home. Don't forget, his kicking in the first
:15:16. > :15:21.half was meticulous. Saints had closed down at play in essence. Had