Semi-final: Wigan v London

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:00:55. > :01:02.Challenge Cup semifinal here in Leigh, it is Wigan Warriors against

:01:02. > :01:12.London Broncos, classic David versus Goliath, time to queue the anthemic

:01:12. > :01:12.

:01:12. > :02:09.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:02:09. > :02:13.music and put tongue firmly in brink of a remarkable achievement.

:02:13. > :02:20.By the end of next month, they could hold both football's FA Cup and the

:02:20. > :02:23.Challenge Cup as well. That will help those who are trying to make

:02:23. > :02:33.the town a city. As far as London are concerned, their whole future

:02:33. > :02:39.could rest on this evening's game. It has been a short journey for the

:02:39. > :02:43.Wigan fans, just eight miles to get from their town to hear at Leigh.

:02:43. > :02:50.For the London fans, though, a completely different proposition.

:02:50. > :02:52.From their home ground to year is a whopping 212 miles. It is the

:02:52. > :03:00.Challenge Cup semifinal weekend, Wigan against London this weekend,

:03:00. > :03:06.and then tomorrow we have Al against Warrington for you from 5:45pm. --

:03:06. > :03:12.Hull. And we want you to get in touch with us as well, you can

:03:12. > :03:16.e-mail us, and we want your four words to describe this game. We will

:03:16. > :03:21.do the forum from seven o'clock tonight on the red button. As you

:03:21. > :03:26.can see, Ian Millward, Brian Noble and Jon Wilkin are with me. We have

:03:26. > :03:30.said it is diverted against Goliath, are we giving them any hope, London?

:03:30. > :03:34.We have to give them hope, that is what the Challenge Cup is about,

:03:34. > :03:39.turning up for 80 minutes and producing a performance. It is

:03:39. > :03:43.significant, this club needs a win here to generate the interest.

:03:43. > :03:47.Wigan, as all top four teams, they have got their mind on the trophy,

:03:47. > :03:52.and that is what they have come to do. We will come onto the history

:03:52. > :03:57.and future of London in the forum a little bit later, but if they are to

:03:57. > :04:01.have a chance this afternoon, they have got to get off to a good start.

:04:01. > :04:07.It is crucially important for London. Wigan are now on. Think

:04:07. > :04:17.rushes in the middle of the field, the forwards are tenacious. -- Wigan

:04:17. > :04:17.

:04:17. > :04:23.are notoriously brochures in the middle of the field. If you do get

:04:23. > :04:27.off to a good start in a semifinal when you are the underdog, you can

:04:27. > :04:33.cause big problems. Wigan against Catalans in 2007. One of those days

:04:33. > :04:37.you don't need reminding of, but we will do it on national television!

:04:37. > :04:41.They blew us away in the first 20 minutes. Call it what you want, the

:04:41. > :04:46.belief in their own team, the job that Mick Potter did as coach, we

:04:46. > :04:50.could not handle them, it was too much of a hill to climb. But can

:04:50. > :04:58.that happen, if you are overwhelming favourites for a semifinal, that you

:04:58. > :05:02.can be laxer days ago in your start? I am not sure it will happen today,

:05:02. > :05:06.this Wigan team are really well prepared and focused on this game.

:05:06. > :05:09.There was not only one person with their head in their hands, not the

:05:09. > :05:13.best day, but you learn to live with them, and you learn from those

:05:13. > :05:16.things. The club will have learned from that as well, and it is really

:05:16. > :05:20.important, London have to really aim up at the start of this game, to

:05:20. > :05:25.make it one of those days whereby the bounce of the ball goes their

:05:25. > :05:29.way, and maybe a lack of execution, Wigan does not go down and they

:05:29. > :05:34.become nervous. Maybe London will take hope from the fact that Wigan

:05:34. > :05:37.are not in great form coming into this game here in Leigh. They have

:05:37. > :05:47.lost three of their last four in Super League, including on Monday

:05:47. > :06:07.

:06:07. > :06:14.Aaron Swift is over! Another one! Pat Richards is in at the corner!

:06:14. > :06:23.Korea and a wonderful pass, and here comes Charnley, and absolutely

:06:23. > :06:29.scintillating try! Pat Richards, what about that?! Unbelievable!

:06:29. > :06:33.Greenwood will score, he has won it for Saint Helens!

:06:33. > :06:41.Given the fierce rivalry between the two clubs, were you surprised that

:06:41. > :06:46.Shaun Wane left out two or three of the big names for that. Not at all,

:06:46. > :06:49.I think they would have played if they were 100% fit. The exciting

:06:49. > :06:52.thing for Wigan, coming into this game, regardless of that result,

:06:52. > :06:57.they have got two of the best players in their positions coming

:06:57. > :07:01.back into the team, and that will have a huge impact. For us, it was a

:07:01. > :07:04.really or inspiring performance, something we needed. We needed a

:07:04. > :07:09.lift this year, but to have the likes of Sam Tomkins coming back

:07:09. > :07:13.into the team, they have got two real game breakers in O'Loughlin and

:07:13. > :07:16.Tomkins, and they cannot be underestimated, their importance to

:07:16. > :07:21.this Wigan team, not only in terms of the way they play but their

:07:21. > :07:24.leadership off the field. Yes, they are both back today for Wigan. We

:07:24. > :07:30.saw in that montage but it is worth seeing again several times over and

:07:30. > :07:37.over, which is the Pat Richards drop goal. Not only the distance but the

:07:37. > :07:40.angle. This is still, but bereaved Lexus, to understand the situation

:07:40. > :07:50.in the game, anyone watching that will say he just dropped the field

:07:50. > :08:03.

:08:03. > :08:08.goal. -- this is guilt, but bereaved it, he can hit the ball on a fly

:08:08. > :08:12.from a dropout, 50 or 60 metres, change the tempo and momentum of a

:08:12. > :08:17.game straightaway with his kicks. Obviously, he has got a high

:08:17. > :08:21.percentage kicking. Wigan is not renowned for changing tempo, but

:08:21. > :08:29.this bloke can. Even as you saw it sailed over the posts, you must have

:08:29. > :08:34.had massive respect for that. that audacious, his technique was

:08:34. > :08:38.that quick, I did not see the ball bouncing on the ground. What a

:08:38. > :08:42.fantastic piece of skill, nearly changed the game for Wigan.

:08:42. > :08:48.Fortunately we came back. As the camera is on you, give me the face

:08:48. > :08:52.you pulled as you saw it go over! Something like that. That is a

:08:52. > :08:56.television natural, I am telling you. Let's hear from both coaches

:08:56. > :09:01.talking to Damian Johnson. Overwhelming favourites, the bookies

:09:01. > :09:06.are not often wrong, but are you concerned about Wigan's form?

:09:06. > :09:10.all, we had a good performance against Widnes, but in a cup

:09:10. > :09:14.semifinal there are no favourites. Regardless of league position,

:09:14. > :09:19.London can play on any given day. For 80 minutes, we need to be at our

:09:19. > :09:22.best. No shying away from the fact that it is an important game, a

:09:22. > :09:28.wonderful opportunity to work really hard to get to moments like this. It

:09:28. > :09:33.has been an enjoyable week, so we want still have a few more.

:09:33. > :09:36.rested a few last night, everybody fit? We have had a great week, the

:09:36. > :09:41.players are really looking forward to it, and we will show London the

:09:41. > :09:47.respect they deserve, a quality team, well coached by Tony Rea, and

:09:47. > :09:55.we are confident in our abilities but we will be showing them respect.

:09:55. > :10:01.Missing some key players. We have got 17 blokes, those are the ones we

:10:01. > :10:05.are thinking about. Let's talk about the players that are in, as Tony Rea

:10:05. > :10:07.wants us to do, rather than the ones that are missing. How can the ones

:10:07. > :10:13.that are missing. How canny a move to bring in Soward for this

:10:13. > :10:16.campaign? Is not only what they want to do on the field, but off the

:10:16. > :10:20.field, and they have got to a situation where they got through the

:10:20. > :10:23.quarterfinals. They have beaten Bradford on the way, and they have

:10:23. > :10:31.got this situation in bringing Jamie over, he has played State of origin,

:10:31. > :10:33.NRL, he is a run of the ball. It gives you all the attributes you

:10:33. > :10:42.need in the semifinal of the Challenge Cup where he can dominate

:10:42. > :10:46.the game. Look, I spoke to him before the game, he is not here to

:10:46. > :10:49.have fun. He would love to be in the Challenge Cup final, and he is here

:10:49. > :10:52.to make an impact. The big impact is going to make is run the ball, and

:10:52. > :10:55.that is what he does when he plays well. It has been criticised in the

:10:55. > :11:00.past for not running the ball, but he will have a massive effect. All

:11:00. > :11:03.the kicking game will be on him and the running game. He can play, no

:11:03. > :11:08.doubt about that. You do not play origin football unless you are a

:11:08. > :11:14.world-class player. I mention at the start of the programme, unless he

:11:14. > :11:18.gets the grounding, he can kick the ball and bring his bounce I back, it

:11:18. > :11:22.will be difficult for him. With more on this man who was so crucial to

:11:22. > :11:27.London, here is John. Very few people have given London a chance

:11:27. > :11:30.today, fans, pundits, broadcasters. For London to do well against Wigan,

:11:30. > :11:35.they need a couple of players to have a massive impact. One such

:11:35. > :11:39.player is this man over year, Jamie Soward, who has been brought over

:11:39. > :11:43.from the NRL to bring some magic to this London team with his passing,

:11:43. > :11:47.with his kicking, all of his distribution talents and creative

:11:47. > :11:50.input. I will tell you what, if he has a good game today, this is as

:11:50. > :11:53.good an opportunity for London to get to the Challenge Cup final as I

:11:53. > :11:58.have seen. Every doesn't have an involvement, the reason he will not

:11:58. > :12:02.be involved is because the Wigan pack as dominated London, they are

:12:02. > :12:07.young and aggressive, very hard to stop, trust me, I have played

:12:07. > :12:13.against them many times! Was he being overdramatic to say that

:12:13. > :12:17.London's future could rest on this game? Yes. There has been a lot of

:12:17. > :12:21.speculation in the press, and this is a one-off semifinal, and they

:12:21. > :12:25.will be hoping to get over the line and beat a good Wigan side. If they

:12:25. > :12:29.get to the final, the world is their oyster. It is a big game in those

:12:29. > :12:33.terms, but I think their future is secure, going forward, and bringing

:12:33. > :12:37.people like Jamie Soward in, it is not a gimmick, they have made a

:12:38. > :12:42.statement as to what they want to do with the club. They have only had

:12:43. > :12:47.one final appearance, back in 1999. Did they fail to capitalise on that?

:12:47. > :12:51.We can always look back at history, but they had a lot of Australians in

:12:51. > :12:56.their team, a lot of non-English there, and today they have tried to

:12:56. > :13:03.put together a team not just of Australians. They spent the full

:13:04. > :13:07.side recap, so it is not that they are short of money. My great friend

:13:07. > :13:12.Graham Murray coached leads, and they jumped out to a good start,

:13:12. > :13:15.something that London have got to do today. Leeds were too strong, they

:13:15. > :13:23.were more dominant and patient. That is where Shaun Wane will be looking

:13:23. > :13:28.today, patients even if you do not start well. If they fire today, they

:13:28. > :13:31.have got a chance, but looking at the Wigan pack, young and athletic,

:13:31. > :13:36.big and strong, very disciplined, it will be tough today, no doubt about

:13:36. > :13:40.it, but that is what cup draws are all about. You talk about starting

:13:40. > :13:44.well, London, they usually start well. Sometimes when you are

:13:44. > :13:48.expected to win, you can be nervous and not play to your full potential,

:13:48. > :13:52.so they have to still go for the top shelf today with everything they

:13:52. > :13:56.do, other ways they can fall into the habit of chasing the game.

:13:57. > :14:01.saw in that 1999 final, a young Iestyn Harris leading Leeds out, he

:14:01. > :14:08.is now assistant coach here at Wigan, a side who have plenty of

:14:08. > :14:12.Challenge Cup history. Their Challenge Cup record is one of

:14:12. > :14:16.domination. They have reached more finals than anyone else, 29, and one

:14:16. > :14:22.player alone has won the cup with them nine times, the great Shaun

:14:22. > :14:27.Edwards. Their last win was in 2011, a 28-18 win over Leeds, and

:14:27. > :14:37.that means they are now up to 18 wins in the Cup. Surely their record

:14:37. > :14:42.

:14:42. > :14:46.of eight in a row by the great team will never be surpassed. Do you

:14:46. > :14:50.think that history help these players or it weighs heavily on them

:14:50. > :14:55.at times? What the previous players at the club have done is create a

:14:55. > :14:59.pathway for the current team to follow. There is a recipe for

:14:59. > :15:02.success at whatever club you are out. Everybody is fighting to get

:15:02. > :15:07.that recipe right. Wigan have historically got that right in the

:15:07. > :15:10.cup. Clubs like Saint Helens and Bradford have, but Wigan have a real

:15:10. > :15:16.strong tradition with the Challenge Cup. That's got to be a positive for

:15:16. > :15:20.them. We've talked about Jamie Soward, Ian, you've look that where

:15:20. > :15:30.this game could be settled elsewhere in a head-to-head battle. Two very

:15:30. > :15:40.imposing forwards. Sean O'Loughlin has got a lot more, he is

:15:40. > :15:42.

:15:42. > :15:45.influential in whatever they do. influential in whatever they do.

:15:45. > :15:51.influential in whatever they do. That is a high step. The average

:15:52. > :16:00.metres are very good. He has to rise up today if he's going to make an

:16:00. > :16:08.impact. Own Laughlin has 22 passes, as many as a halfback would do.

:16:09. > :16:12.Rodney, he relies on tackle and hard running. Sean O'Loughlin is a

:16:12. > :16:22.leader. Rodney, he needs to inspire his team because he has all the

:16:22. > :16:23.

:16:23. > :16:27.instructions. A man who's done so much for London over the years in

:16:27. > :16:37.the club, in all its different guises. It's a big afternoon for

:16:37. > :16:38.

:16:38. > :16:43.those two men. Huge day. He deserves all the plaudits anyone can give

:16:43. > :16:46.him. But today is a one-off. I'm wondering if Tony Rea has a few

:16:46. > :16:54.tricks up his sleeve. He might do something different in the game to

:16:54. > :17:00.swing the game his way. How will he stop Wigan's main threat? Josh

:17:00. > :17:06.Charnley's record for Wigan, 98 tries in 90 appearances. How did you

:17:06. > :17:13.stop him? It's very difficult. A lot of what Wigan does is create space

:17:13. > :17:18.for Charnley on the edge. A lot of Charnley's tries have come off the

:17:18. > :17:23.back of Sean O'Loughlin creating that pass initially. When you couple

:17:23. > :17:27.that with space, strength, speed and confidence, that is why he is

:17:27. > :17:31.scoring so many tries. I think his confidence has been his real

:17:31. > :17:36.attribute over the last couple of seasons. He has grown and to become

:17:36. > :17:44.a real personality in the game. Tomkins, when he goes to the left,

:17:44. > :17:51.he likes to step off his left foot and come back in. He is a prolific

:17:51. > :17:56.scorer. I've been really impressed with him. He goes really well. Sean

:17:56. > :17:59.O'Loughlin is a world-class player as well. Along with Jamie Soward. He

:17:59. > :18:05.would feature in any team in the world. I think he's really

:18:05. > :18:09.influential in this team. Just in the corner, that's where he is,

:18:09. > :18:17.Tomkins is with him. Charnley just off to put his shirt on. Another

:18:17. > :18:22.Wigan legend looking on, Billy Boston. Tomorrow we've got

:18:22. > :18:28.Warrington against Hull. We want you to get in touch with us as well.

:18:28. > :18:33.Tweet us. Four words to describe the game. Brian, Ian and John will be

:18:33. > :18:37.staying with us when we do the four word forum after 7pm, which you will

:18:37. > :18:47.be able to watch on the red button. Charnley still hasn't got his shirt

:18:47. > :18:48.

:18:48. > :18:58.on. Brian now has to dash using legendary pays across this pitch to

:18:58. > :19:05.

:19:05. > :19:15.for those players to emerge. The Wigan Warriors 13, very, very strong

:19:15. > :19:22.

:19:22. > :19:27.indeed. Almost at full strength. Yes. For the Broncos, very simple,

:19:27. > :19:32.keep the ball, good kicking game and a good defence. Hang on in there.

:19:32. > :19:38.When the opportunities come, take them. Do the basics very well and

:19:38. > :19:43.keep calm. Not a great number of support from London, but the

:19:43. > :19:51.faithful fans are here. I was speaking to some of them before

:19:51. > :20:01.kick-off. They were all asking, can they do it? Well, who knows? I've

:20:01. > :20:13.

:20:13. > :20:18.seen big shocks in my time, some of players and seasoned English lads in

:20:18. > :20:28.the Broncos side. But the expansion of the game in London can be seen in

:20:28. > :20:32.

:20:32. > :20:37.the likes of McMeeken in that line-up. The referee, Phil Bentham.

:20:37. > :20:47.A very experienced Super League referee. We are all set for the

:20:47. > :20:58.

:20:58. > :21:08.first 2013 semifinal of the Tetleys it. I've never known odds like that!

:21:08. > :21:18.

:21:18. > :21:28.the final at Wembley Stadium on Saturday, August 24. As usual, the

:21:28. > :21:31.

:21:31. > :21:35.BBC will be there. Penalty. Oh, it's a scrum down. That is a big mistake.

:21:35. > :21:44.It gives very good position for Wigan to attack. London needed to

:21:44. > :21:51.keep hold of the ball in these early stages. Just joining us is Mr Noble.

:21:51. > :22:01.That's the last thing they need. It wasn't a knock-on. Wigan will try to

:22:01. > :22:35.

:22:35. > :22:39.wondering, what is it? He's lost it. I think we should explain. The

:22:39. > :22:45.advantage rule, you can play on but you must take advantage. There was

:22:45. > :22:54.no advantage taken there. Had to make the tackle. I think it was

:22:54. > :22:58.Rhodri Lloyd. He had to make a tackle and did very well. He did

:22:58. > :23:08.well. Unfortunately he jammed the ball as well, but he had to take the

:23:08. > :23:09.

:23:09. > :23:13.them. They always run the same plays in most games, Wigan, but how do you

:23:13. > :23:23.stop them? They created the overlap on the first attack and only a

:23:23. > :23:54.

:23:54. > :24:04.desperate tackle stopped it. Rhodri runner-up in the Challenge Cup with

:24:04. > :24:17.

:24:17. > :24:22.Hull a few years back. A good press little bit there. He knew the ploy,

:24:22. > :24:25.he just maybe was a bit too forward in the movement not to give the

:24:25. > :24:35.catch and give. I think Tony Rea will have come out of that opening

:24:35. > :24:37.

:24:37. > :24:47.with some confidence. I agree. Three sets, in essence. Credit to London.

:24:47. > :25:10.

:25:10. > :25:19.They have to complete the set and about, Jamie Soward. Always with

:25:19. > :25:27.that head guard on. Good, long kick. A testing kick. I understand

:25:27. > :25:32.we can hand down to Damien. A slight breeze taking the edge off the

:25:32. > :25:35.temperatures down here, but it is sweltering. The Wigan team have an

:25:35. > :25:40.air conditioning unit for the dressing room just to take the edge

:25:40. > :25:44.off. So no stone left unturned as they plot a route to Wembley.

:25:44. > :25:51.been interesting this year, Brian, I've noticed a lot of dropped

:25:51. > :25:54.football in this weather. A lot of sweat. The ball gets wet and it is

:25:54. > :25:58.difficult to handle. When it's got that way, we've seen a lot of games

:25:58. > :26:04.that have been scrappy and error ridden because of the wetness on the

:26:04. > :26:08.ball. There's been an edict gone round for information in the last

:26:08. > :26:15.week about certain players wetting the ball. They've obviously picked

:26:15. > :26:25.up on that fact as well. I've seen it done many a time! This catches

:26:25. > :26:48.

:26:48. > :26:55.him on the back of the bonds and condition. There's a penalty for

:26:55. > :27:05.stealing the ball. Is immaculate. I would rather play in these

:27:05. > :27:14.

:27:14. > :27:23.conditions than a December night. far corner. I think he will need

:27:23. > :27:33.more than two points. The Broncos with their first attacking... Luke

:27:33. > :27:53.

:27:54. > :28:03.was in that they must semifinal against Catalans Dragons. A good

:28:04. > :28:30.

:28:31. > :28:40.ball out to Soward. Terrific from I think it's a knock-on from the

:28:40. > :28:50.London Broncos, which is unlucky. His armies over the top. Luke Dorn,

:28:50. > :28:53.

:28:53. > :28:58.Broncos are trying to do. They are going to go wide. They realise they

:28:58. > :29:08.can't make much of this Wigan side, especially the pack, so they will

:29:08. > :29:14.

:29:14. > :29:22.put a bit of wit on it and try to go can't go lateral all the time. The

:29:22. > :29:26.intent is there to go wide. There's been a lot of silly talk about this

:29:26. > :29:36.Broncos side. Don't forget, they have some talented players who have

:29:36. > :30:03.

:30:03. > :30:13.played in finals, Robinson... Six wall! Try and run into space and

:30:13. > :30:25.

:30:25. > :30:30.That is Kaufusi and Bryant, two grand finalists from the NRL leading

:30:30. > :30:35.the way with the quality of their carries. Good positioning of the

:30:35. > :30:40.ball there. As we said, if they do the basics well, control possession

:30:40. > :30:45.and put the tackles in, then anything could happen. Everyone

:30:45. > :30:50.expects Wigan to run away and have a good start. That is a penalty, yes,

:30:50. > :30:55.he was ripping it out. That is not going to help, because this is now

:30:55. > :31:05.going to give them field position. That is a very good kick, giving

:31:05. > :31:26.

:31:26. > :31:30.through! Magnificent stuff! They just switched off then, didn't they?

:31:30. > :31:40.The short side just switched off, and Darrell Goulding has exploited.

:31:40. > :31:47.

:31:47. > :31:52.He did not need the winger. There we the same way. The gap opens up, and

:31:52. > :31:59.it is very difficult for the full-back to make the tackle. But

:31:59. > :32:02.poor defence. This is a sucker punch. Too much of an opportunity

:32:02. > :32:10.for a quality player like Darrell Goulding, smart player, smart

:32:10. > :32:17.footwork, not so smart by the Broncos. One of the young Wigan lads

:32:17. > :32:21.coming through the academy. It is a very good finish, but you cannot

:32:21. > :32:26.switch off, that mark-up. They have to communicate, they both went the

:32:26. > :32:36.same way, and it was so easy for Golding. In a Challenge Cup

:32:36. > :32:51.

:32:51. > :32:53.will not score an easier tried this season. London are really frustrated

:32:53. > :32:58.with that. That can cause an emotional balance, Ray, when you

:32:58. > :33:04.make such case in full mistake. coach, you know how many tries come

:33:04. > :33:08.from silly penalties like that one. It is communication, Ray, you have

:33:08. > :33:13.defended well, had a bit of pressure. You have soaked up three

:33:13. > :33:23.sets of six, and a simple mistake, a lack of communication, which you do

:33:23. > :33:56.

:33:56. > :34:06.whatever he has got left. Very good field position, they have lost it by

:34:06. > :34:13.

:34:13. > :34:16.poor attention. Bad mistake by happy with it. Just a reminder of

:34:16. > :34:22.what he said, it will be difficult to get field position against this

:34:22. > :34:28.Wigan team. It is not the recipe you need, you have to take everything

:34:29. > :34:38.they are going to give you today. They were three points adrift at the

:34:39. > :34:43.bottom of Super League. Of course, Wigan are in second position. They

:34:43. > :34:53.are looking for a league and Cup double. Great difference between the

:34:53. > :35:12.

:35:13. > :35:17.two sites, but in rugby it is all of London have done very well

:35:17. > :35:21.defensively. Once Wigan go to the edges, we will see their full

:35:22. > :35:30.potential. Yes, I think we have seen them creating opportunities, two

:35:30. > :35:40.really good hits. They have two prolific wingmen as scorers. Broncos

:35:40. > :35:40.

:35:40. > :36:30.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:36:30. > :36:36.in possession, trying to get into They have just given a penalty away

:36:36. > :36:40.and field position. It is the element of discipline, they do not

:36:40. > :36:45.want Wigan to get on a roll, that is what they are worried about, and

:36:45. > :36:55.that is why they are messing about a little bit longer in the ruck.

:36:55. > :37:04.

:37:04. > :37:08.O'Loughlin looks full support and isn't it? Well, they are not having

:37:08. > :37:14.to work too hard to get out of their own half and find some field

:37:14. > :37:20.position. 15 minutes in, Izzy going for gold? That is a bit of respect

:37:20. > :37:27.for the London Broncos. I thought, eight points, they would need to

:37:27. > :37:31.score twice. Quite surprised by that decision, Ray. Well, I am not, in a

:37:31. > :37:39.match like this. I do not think teams these days go for goal kicks

:37:39. > :37:42.enough, I mean, this is no different from when you will remember, they

:37:42. > :37:52.used to give him three attempts within the first ten minutes,

:37:52. > :37:52.

:37:52. > :37:59.psychologically. I just think, early in the game, they might have wanted

:37:59. > :38:05.a pop, but this is a pop on its own. O'Loughlin with a long pop at goal,

:38:06. > :38:15.and he has missed it. He struck it really well, though. They will have

:38:16. > :38:26.

:38:26. > :38:36.would have been tempted to have a go options, what should you do here,

:38:36. > :38:45.

:38:45. > :38:49.where he take it? As far as he can, prop, having an injury to his hip

:38:49. > :38:58.assessed. It was not a contact injury, he slipped fell awkwardly.

:38:58. > :39:03.He is being assessed by the doctor. Gil Dudson, the former North Wales

:39:03. > :39:13.Crusader, hopefully one for the Welsh World Cup side when they kick

:39:13. > :39:13.

:39:13. > :39:59.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:39:59. > :40:04.That is good running. Well done, guys - was it 50-1 on? When you

:40:04. > :40:14.think of the victories that London have had in Super League against the

:40:14. > :40:25.

:40:25. > :40:35.London Broncos... Knock on, just second error rather on his carry. He

:40:35. > :40:41.will need to clean that up for London. Territory in opposition, you

:40:41. > :40:44.know, it is favouring Wigan. London are going to get tired doing all

:40:44. > :40:54.these tackles, but because they have just made some in the errors and

:40:54. > :41:03.

:41:03. > :41:13.given so many penalties away. years of age, really part of the

:41:13. > :41:45.

:41:45. > :41:55.Absolutely no chance of staying in the field of play, just watch. Once

:41:55. > :41:57.

:41:57. > :42:03.he lands, he gets smashed by Hansen. and I think they will be looking for

:42:03. > :42:06.a fair distance. They will need it. As Jonathan has said, territory and

:42:06. > :42:13.possession is increasing, and they are a very patient side, Wigan, and

:42:13. > :42:23.all this defence is going to mean someone will make a good decision.

:42:23. > :43:02.

:43:02. > :43:08.this boy Thornley, he is a very is a try! Lee Mossop, is it?

:43:08. > :43:15.Derivative play by the halfback in the middle there. -- to reflect.

:43:15. > :43:24.Bringing the forward on just at the right spot. Well engineered. Lee

:43:24. > :43:30.Mossop. Well, they have the break, didn't they? Just watch this play,

:43:30. > :43:38.O'Loughlin takes the ball to the line, simple play, lovely pass. Just

:43:38. > :43:43.a little bit too white defensively. They were overloaded on one side,

:43:44. > :43:47.and that will make spaces. They were worried they would have spaces on

:43:47. > :43:52.the edge, so spaces open up in the middle. It is the system that they

:43:52. > :43:56.play, Jonathan - they have to work out their numbers, they play really

:43:56. > :43:59.nice and tight, and their dummy runners, the people who think they

:43:59. > :44:07.are getting the ball, they do not get the ball, and it opens up spaces

:44:07. > :44:13.further out. Pat Richards, a prolific goal-scorer for Wigan. No

:44:14. > :44:17.problems with this one, 12-04 the Wigan Warriors, and they will miss

:44:18. > :44:24.this man when he goes back to Australia. And that man as well,

:44:24. > :44:28.when he goes down under to try his hand. There he is, off he goes, the

:44:28. > :44:35.outsize defender does not go with him, the first defender, and that is

:44:35. > :44:39.a very simple try for Mossop, very well worked by Wigan. Another thing

:44:39. > :44:43.to mention for our viewers that are watching, the halfbacks for Wigan

:44:44. > :44:53.include O'Loughlin in that equation and Green and Smith, and they all go

:44:54. > :45:02.

:45:02. > :45:09.to the line and make defenders make get the ball of these men. Even this

:45:09. > :45:14.early in the game, I think the next score is crucial. It's these two

:45:14. > :45:21.halfbacks from Wigan, Smith and Blake Green, who are causing all the

:45:21. > :45:25.problems. They are bringing forward after forward. Not another one!

:45:25. > :45:35.You've got to try and slow the play of the ball down. But if the referee

:45:35. > :45:44.

:45:44. > :45:50.picks it up, you've just got to confidently on these passes. Tomkins

:45:50. > :46:00.has not had much room to run so far, but I'm sure we will see him

:46:00. > :46:05.

:46:05. > :46:10.throughout the 80 minutes. A good said we'd soon see him and there he

:46:10. > :46:15.is. Sam Tomkins going in already four Wigan's third try of the

:46:15. > :46:24.afternoon. Suddenly is London Broncos side have got to get a

:46:24. > :46:32.grip. They made four errors and four penalties conceded. Only 22 minutes

:46:32. > :46:38.gone, there's far too many errors. Steps inside, steps again. Just a

:46:38. > :46:43.massive hole behind the play of the ball once again. A bit of world

:46:43. > :46:49.class can play like this. If you are four defenders away, it might be you

:46:49. > :46:52.that makes the tackle. You need to be alert. It comes off his left

:46:53. > :46:58.foot, so there's three defenders away from him that should have been

:46:59. > :47:08.making the tackle. Luke Dorn, the full-back, is in the line. Once the

:47:09. > :47:09.

:47:09. > :47:56.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:47:56. > :48:00.first line is broken, which was Luke Broncos is looking at statistics

:48:00. > :48:08.from Wigan, they score far more tries ten minutes before half-time

:48:08. > :48:14.and ten minutes after. Tony Rea needs a couple of messages. He's

:48:14. > :48:24.probably got to put an extra number in the tackle to try and slow the

:48:24. > :48:27.

:48:27. > :48:32.ruck down. He's got to increase are getting up very quickly, there's

:48:32. > :48:42.men of the Dutch Mac there's men on the ground. Exploit that. They are

:48:42. > :48:44.

:48:44. > :48:51.going through again. It was knocked back. That's a penalty. Everything

:48:51. > :49:01.is going against the Broncos. are having real trouble holding down

:49:01. > :49:01.

:49:01. > :49:53.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:49:53. > :50:00.that side. They've got to get It is the number six. A bounce that

:50:00. > :50:10.proved difficult for the London Broncos. Green pounces and Wigan

:50:10. > :50:19.

:50:19. > :50:29.post. But when you kick the ball, anything can happen. That's what

:50:29. > :50:29.

:50:29. > :51:14.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:51:14. > :51:24.they do, they put it there and it Pat Richards in the Challenge Cup,

:51:24. > :51:24.

:51:24. > :51:30.he scored 50 points against London already this season himself. Going

:51:30. > :51:34.back to the kick, it had an element of luck as well. London need to get

:51:34. > :51:44.their hands on the ball. It's easier said than done when Wigan are in

:51:44. > :51:49.

:51:49. > :51:59.this kind of form, but they've got tackles. The mark of a good site is

:51:59. > :51:59.

:51:59. > :52:47.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:52:47. > :52:51.keeping the ball from the ball, they have to hold it, London.

:52:51. > :52:56.I think they have this mentality that they're going to chance their

:52:56. > :52:59.arm when they get the ball. Someone needs to remind them that against

:52:59. > :53:09.this team they have to do something different. You need to have a bit

:53:09. > :53:39.

:53:39. > :53:49.judged as another London knock-on? It is. There was no need for it. You

:53:49. > :53:56.

:53:56. > :54:01.had been a whole there and you give that pass, you don't risk it down

:54:01. > :54:05.there because there's an opportunity for you. The to pass the ball,

:54:05. > :54:15.Michael Robinson will have a shot # a sore chin tomorrow morning for

:54:15. > :54:15.

:54:15. > :55:01.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:55:01. > :55:10.Well played by Sam Tomkins inside. Almost like reading out to a baby on

:55:10. > :55:20.the wing. But he's no baby. Big, strong and powerful. Wigan go even

:55:20. > :55:30.

:55:30. > :55:40.Brian. The key is both their hearts go at the line, gets his hands

:55:40. > :55:45.free... Give some credit to Ben Flower, who carried the ball before

:55:45. > :55:49.that play. Magnificent feat. thought that was brilliant. Flower

:55:49. > :55:59.just steps and goes. You've got to realign your defence and reorganise

:55:59. > :55:59.

:55:59. > :57:02.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:57:02. > :57:08.it when your own line is very touchline, Gil Dudson is back out

:57:08. > :57:12.and about. It's a sign of Wigan's professionalism that Lee Mossop is

:57:12. > :57:22.prowling around, itching to get back out on the pitch. He's had a blast

:57:22. > :57:23.

:57:23. > :57:33.of oxygen. He's been working on the static bike here. Logan Tomkins

:57:33. > :57:49.

:57:49. > :57:52.there, the younger brother of Sam magnificent try! Josh Charnley

:57:52. > :58:02.timing his run to perfection. No wonder those Wigan fans are

:58:02. > :58:13.

:58:13. > :58:18.delighted. His 35th try of the break in the middle. Great footwork

:58:19. > :58:24.again. Boom! Straight through. He off-loaded to all Laughlin. Get that

:58:24. > :58:31.into you as well. As you said at the start of the game, he's a

:58:31. > :58:41.world-class player. That's a very good try. The support, the vision

:58:41. > :58:46.

:58:47. > :58:52.and the off-load. That's a classic you can't have rice paper thin

:58:52. > :58:56.defence. At the moment, they will have to show character and a bit of

:58:56. > :59:03.pride and self-respect not for this to be a total annihilation and

:59:03. > :59:07.embarrassment. We were looking at the beginning of the programme about

:59:07. > :59:11.the number of passes made by hot packs, and in particular by Sean

:59:11. > :59:21.O'Loughlin as a loose forward. He's almost an excellent halfback, isn't

:59:21. > :59:21.

:59:21. > :00:02.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:00:02. > :00:12.to take heart before the half-time? A bit of confusion there. There's no

:00:12. > :00:25.

:00:25. > :00:35.conviction in taking it. That's a there. I think Tony Rea knows he

:00:35. > :01:14.

:01:14. > :01:21.will be having a day off for the Cup tackling. Three Wigan defenders

:01:21. > :01:26.there, turnover. Flower has had such an impact, coming on, defensive,

:01:26. > :01:36.attacking. Just watch, he steps out of the line, just smashes him, hold

:01:36. > :01:41.

:01:41. > :01:50.from the Broncos, that is the sort of stuff that has been lacking.

:01:50. > :01:55.know, the mentality of Wigan will be the 04 London Broncos, they know the

:01:55. > :02:05.game is won. It is a matter of how many points they will score. But

:02:05. > :02:27.

:02:28. > :02:36.their motivation now will be 20 the can. Do Wigan pick it up? Yes, they

:02:36. > :02:41.do. I thought he was offside there. It has come to nothing anyway. It

:02:41. > :02:46.just goes to show, you know, even when you are winning 34-0, Wigan

:02:46. > :02:55.still complete the set and put a big high kick out to compete for

:02:55. > :03:05.possession again. Was he offside? No, he wasn't, Ray. He wasn't, I

:03:05. > :03:26.

:03:26. > :03:36.apologise to Josh Charnley. He held has got? He will probably just about

:03:36. > :03:46.

:03:46. > :03:54.are in complete control here in this Tetley's Challenge Cup semifinal.

:03:54. > :04:00.Available chip over the top. Well taken! That surely will be the end

:04:00. > :04:10.of proceedings. Richards coming insensibly, bringing it out well.

:04:10. > :04:12.

:04:12. > :04:20.Last tackle. There is the route. The scoreline, very convincing for the

:04:20. > :04:25.50 to one favourites, Wigan 34, London zero. Total domination in

:04:25. > :04:30.every aspect of the game for Wigan, they took their opportunities. The

:04:30. > :04:35.halfbacks took the ball to the line and held the defence. The execution

:04:35. > :04:45.was very, very good, far too many missed opportunities for Broncos

:04:45. > :04:46.

:04:46. > :04:51.early on, and a lack of discipline, more than a platform to make the

:04:51. > :04:57.final now. We have got a good grip on the game, we hope to do the same

:04:57. > :05:01.again in the second half. What was the key to dominance? The forwards

:05:01. > :05:11.defended well. They broke as a couple of times but we were strong.

:05:11. > :05:14.

:05:14. > :05:18.He was saying that the forwards have absolutely battered their way

:05:18. > :05:25.through that first half. That is the Wigan dressing room, a very happy

:05:25. > :05:31.Wigan dressing room, 34-0 up at half-time. And it is more the

:05:31. > :05:36.Broncos dressing room and what Tony Rea will be saying to his

:05:36. > :05:40.shell-shocked, not Shell socked, shell-shocked players. There is

:05:40. > :05:50.confirmation of the score at half-time, six tries for Wigan in

:05:50. > :05:53.

:05:53. > :05:57.be a very difficult team talk for Tony Rea. Before we started the

:05:57. > :06:00.game, I talked about a perfect performance. They're ill discipline

:06:00. > :06:04.giving away penalties is a reflection on technique. If you go

:06:04. > :06:08.through their play, they are not giving themselves an opportunity. At

:06:08. > :06:12.the start of the game, I thought they would start with a slower

:06:12. > :06:16.tempo, slowing the game down so it was not at a tempo to suit Wigan,

:06:16. > :06:20.but they have tried to up their tempo, and we saw the two points

:06:20. > :06:25.that they did not go for, they kicked into touch. I just feel that

:06:25. > :06:28.statistics will be very interesting, they are usually an indication of

:06:28. > :06:32.your effort and the quality of your effort, and every stat will be

:06:32. > :06:37.dominated. They have inflicted on themselves at times. I do not think

:06:37. > :06:41.Wigan were dominant early, but they brought them into the game, and then

:06:41. > :06:49.they have absolutely ambushed them. We had a few tweets from people

:06:49. > :06:54.before the match, this four-word for, impossible made possible. I do

:06:54. > :06:59.not think that is going to happen! Wigan absolutely battered London.

:06:59. > :07:05.And there have absolutely battered London, and yet London got off to an

:07:05. > :07:08.OK first five or ten minutes. we talk about their good start, it

:07:08. > :07:12.was really more that they just competed with Wigan in the first few

:07:12. > :07:17.minutes. But what happened with Wigan is they got the ball, got into

:07:17. > :07:21.good field position, and a really dangerous, some good kicking out of

:07:21. > :07:24.dummy half from Tommy Lee sole London get good field position. But

:07:24. > :07:28.following that, we talk about the energy battle in the changing rooms,

:07:28. > :07:32.and that means preserving your own energy and making sure that you make

:07:32. > :07:36.the other team defend as much as possible. London did not do that,

:07:36. > :07:42.they conceded too many penalties, turned over the ball too much, and a

:07:42. > :07:45.side as good as Wigan take advantage of that. That being said, London had

:07:45. > :07:50.a couple of early opportunities to put the pressure on. We saw them

:07:50. > :07:55.have a chance to go for the two, you said you would have gone for the two

:07:55. > :08:02.to get on the scoreboard, Brian, even if it is 2-0 up, would you have

:08:02. > :08:06.gone for that? I am not sure. Some people say keep the scoreboard

:08:06. > :08:11.rolling, restart there. The way they were playing, London, they would not

:08:11. > :08:14.be able to capitalise on those points. I reinforce what John said,

:08:14. > :08:18.Wigan were quite nervous in the first ten minutes, did not execute

:08:18. > :08:23.properly, gave them some free ball. What did London do? They handed it

:08:23. > :08:28.straight back. That was more the pivotal error than the decide to

:08:28. > :08:32.take two or not. And as soon as they got the dry, that released their

:08:32. > :08:36.confidence. When you have been told you are going to win, you begin to

:08:36. > :08:42.think, we have only got to do not to win. Look at the first try,

:08:42. > :08:46.educational stuff. They have got two attackers and need help from their

:08:46. > :08:50.marker, but they both go the same way. What compounds it even worse is

:08:50. > :08:55.the pull-back, who has to go straight to the inside shoulder of

:08:56. > :08:59.the ball carrier. He has to take away his time, so that lack of

:08:59. > :09:04.communication and teamwork defensively was highlighted. At the

:09:04. > :09:11.moment, there is the Wigan changing room once again. They do not look

:09:11. > :09:15.particularly happy, considering they are 34-0 up, do they? Shaun Wane has

:09:15. > :09:20.to instil some concentration, because in essence this game was won

:09:20. > :09:23.for them, if nothing goes wrong. But what he wants is to keep the

:09:23. > :09:26.complete performance going, executing and keeping their

:09:26. > :09:32.discipline. That can be harder to achieve, so he is reinforcing the

:09:32. > :09:36.message - listen, don't clock up, keep doing the things that have made

:09:36. > :09:41.a successful. They are in the habit of doing this, he will be

:09:41. > :09:44.reinforcing, we need to keep this working. Talking about the semifinal

:09:44. > :09:48.of the Challenge Cup and the final. That is what they will be talking

:09:48. > :09:53.about in the dressing room, the fact that they cannot drop their

:09:53. > :09:56.intensity. If you switch off in a game that seems to be won, it can

:09:56. > :10:02.take weeks to get that intensity back. Wigan will want to finish with

:10:02. > :10:06.the intensity that they finished this first half with. Let's examine

:10:06. > :10:10.that intensity, because it hit the Wigan intensity that has caused

:10:10. > :10:14.these London penalties? By that, I mean fitness, pressure, wanting to

:10:14. > :10:20.play the ball quickly. Those that cause London to slow it down

:10:21. > :10:24.illegally? Their energy levels are down and technique is compromised

:10:24. > :10:28.off the back of that, and then you give away more penalties, and it is

:10:28. > :10:33.a vicious cycle that we talk about. When I set about the energy battle,

:10:33. > :10:38.that is what I am talking about. It is very difficult to recover from

:10:38. > :10:41.the energy you have expended, trying to control Wigan in that period.

:10:41. > :10:46.Exiting your half, like Wigan were, they were given free rides with

:10:46. > :10:51.penalties all the time. You do not want to repeat sets, you are

:10:51. > :10:54.thinking, the bodies in motion by Wigan, creating more tackles, and

:10:54. > :11:00.their technique has been poor. That has been the downfall. They will be

:11:00. > :11:03.talking about that, London, because this could get embarrassing. Is it a

:11:03. > :11:10.vicious circle? , you give away penalties, you make mistakes, and

:11:10. > :11:14.you struggle to get a foothold. It is impossible to get back into the

:11:15. > :11:19.game at that point. It is like tennis, you both want to get on the

:11:19. > :11:23.baseline to return the ball. At the moment, Wigan are coming into the

:11:23. > :11:27.net and hitting winners. You say it is like tennis, and Brian is in

:11:27. > :11:36.between the two of you going like that from side to side! Australia

:11:36. > :11:40.versus England here! O'Loughlin, look, he is the best 13 in the game,

:11:40. > :11:44.and amongst the players he is revered as the best team player. He

:11:44. > :11:50.has had a captain's Nokia today, everything he has done, he has been

:11:50. > :11:56.square and direct. Rockne, to me, he has said, listen, I am a good

:11:56. > :12:00.player, but I need to show you that I am a great player today. He is

:12:00. > :12:04.trying to off-load it and has not had the opportunity. We talk about

:12:04. > :12:10.good ball, attacking the opposition line. He has not had that, but the

:12:10. > :12:13.captains dug up, Rodney, and he has been one of many players that have

:12:13. > :12:19.contributed to their downfall. mentioned in commentary, we know

:12:19. > :12:22.that the hits that O'Loughlin can put in, you kind of highlighted his

:12:22. > :12:26.creativity in commentary. He a world-class player, I cannot

:12:26. > :12:30.emphasise that enough. He bend his back but make passes at the line as

:12:30. > :12:34.well as any half in the game. He released Charnley on the fringes,

:12:34. > :12:39.bumping somebody else in the process, using his physical aspect

:12:39. > :12:44.and prowess as well. He has the quality and skill to find the past.

:12:44. > :12:47.I cannot give him enough plaudits, he is a super player, but he has the

:12:47. > :12:54.ability to do the tough stuff as well. The Benz is back, as though

:12:54. > :12:59.all the Wigan team. -- he bends his back. Ben Flower did the same,

:12:59. > :13:04.compromising the London line all the time. They have got real energy off

:13:04. > :13:08.the bench, Flower was fantastic, a really hard player to tackle. He

:13:08. > :13:11.played with Smith a number of times, getting back to the inside shoulder,

:13:11. > :13:16.playing the ball quickly, and a number of the Wigan tries came off

:13:16. > :13:20.the back of his carries. He made a big difference towards the back end

:13:20. > :13:24.of that hard. Talking about family times he touches the ball,

:13:24. > :13:29.O'Loughlin, we must tell the viewers it is not just about touching the

:13:29. > :13:33.ball, it is where you go on the defensive line. He runs square and

:13:33. > :13:38.holds the defence, and that is why they are getting so much space.

:13:38. > :13:41.Look, this is one of the captain's great roles, if we watching,

:13:41. > :13:47.everything leads out of his hands, the way the defence, had off his

:13:47. > :13:52.line. That is where he inspires people. Wigan will feel that they

:13:52. > :14:02.have one foot in the Challenge Cup final, they will not feel they are

:14:02. > :14:05.

:14:05. > :14:08.definitely there yet. Who will they 5:45pm here on BBC Two tomorrow

:14:08. > :14:12.evening. Let's talk to a former Warrington player, Jonathan Davies,

:14:12. > :14:15.on the other side of the field in the commentary box. If Warrington

:14:15. > :14:22.reproduce the form they showed in that quarterfinal against

:14:22. > :14:32.Huddersfield, they are likely to be at Wembley, and they? It's difficult

:14:32. > :14:33.

:14:33. > :14:39.to say. But I thought the catalyst was their defence. It was fantastic.

:14:39. > :14:43.They built on that. When you've got a good defence, then you know you

:14:43. > :14:46.will try and make the opportunity to score points. You have to fancy

:14:46. > :14:52.Warrington, they've got some love affair going with the Challenge Cup

:14:52. > :14:58.at the moment, as Wigan did in the 80s. Yes, they do go in as

:14:58. > :15:02.favourites, but it will be a very interesting game and a lot closer

:15:02. > :15:12.than people expect. But I just fancy the experience of Warrington will

:15:12. > :15:12.

:15:12. > :15:17.edge that. Cole work defensively, they were very good against Catalan.

:15:17. > :15:20.-- Hull. They've been outstanding all year. Their bugbear has been not

:15:20. > :15:26.getting fluency in their hearts and getting the right combination and

:15:26. > :15:32.injuries. They bought a young player from Australia, it's been tough for

:15:33. > :15:36.him, Daniel Holdsworth. Their outstanding kicker. That gives him a

:15:36. > :15:41.lot of confidence. They can continue their good defence and back it up

:15:41. > :15:51.with some tries, I think we are in for a great game tomorrow. We would

:15:51. > :15:55.expect it to be closer than this tomorrow. Without doubt.We are on

:15:55. > :16:04.air till 7pm on BBC Two, but then we have the forum on the red button.

:16:04. > :16:11.Plenty talk about. Review this game with us. You can tweet us. You can

:16:11. > :16:15.e-mail us as well. John and Ian and Brian will be with us for the forum

:16:15. > :16:18.from 7pm on the red button. Now there is plenty of work for those

:16:18. > :16:28.London players to do. Let's rejoin our commentary team for the second

:16:28. > :16:31.

:16:31. > :16:36.do need to play for their pride over the next 40 minutes. I'm sure we

:16:36. > :16:42.will be seeing some records for semi-finals. I think so. They've

:16:42. > :16:46.been told in a changing room, look, boys, keep possession, finish the

:16:46. > :16:54.sets, do the basics well. Defend as well as you can and see what

:16:54. > :16:57.happens. It will be, look, let's try and win the second half. It might be

:16:57. > :17:07.a bit of a contest, but it's all about getting some respect and pride

:17:07. > :17:35.

:17:35. > :17:39.pushing up off these short passes. They are doing all the damage.

:17:39. > :17:43.are just laying such a great platform for the halfbacks.

:17:43. > :17:53.there you see one of the results of that platform, a magnificent kick

:17:53. > :18:31.

:18:31. > :18:38.not back in, they've got to get back right-hand side. Just didn't hold

:18:38. > :18:48.their depth. Ian Thornley came in very well. They know there is going

:18:48. > :19:06.

:19:06. > :19:16.to be a play on. But the centre has of this Wigan team, he does all the

:19:16. > :19:56.

:19:56. > :20:06.experienced player. He has had success with Bradford and Hull KR in

:20:06. > :20:11.

:20:11. > :20:16.from this London team in the second half. That was good play. They just

:20:16. > :20:23.didn't need that again. They ask questions of the Wigan defence and

:20:23. > :20:28.they cut the line. It is frenetic rugby. They've just got to play for

:20:29. > :20:36.possession. They've got to do something different, guys, because

:20:36. > :20:41.they are 34 down. They will have to chance their arms somewhere. They

:20:41. > :20:44.have to try and keep their possession. It is a balance between

:20:44. > :20:54.chanting your arm and not throwing the miracle ball and just getting

:20:54. > :21:02.

:21:02. > :21:06.rooms. Wigan, a pleasing first half is the message from Shaun Wane. He

:21:06. > :21:11.said it was a sluggish start, it took ten minutes to get into their

:21:11. > :21:15.stride. In terms of London, they admit it's a massive void to make

:21:15. > :21:25.up. The defence was porous. They really need to establish themselves

:21:25. > :21:25.

:21:25. > :22:15.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:22:15. > :22:21.from that line. Tomkins weighing up on the line. There's not many

:22:21. > :22:29.semifinal games where you can actually enjoy it, knowing there's a

:22:29. > :22:34.massive prize of a Wembley final. That was one of my goals, to play

:22:34. > :22:39.and win at a challenge Cup Final. I played but didn't win there. Every

:22:39. > :22:46.rugby league player coming up through the age groups wants to play

:22:46. > :22:50.in Wembley, in the Challenge Cup Final. When you get a chance to play

:22:50. > :23:00.in a semi-final, usually means it's not really enjoyable because it's

:23:00. > :23:14.

:23:14. > :23:18.such a big prize at the end of it. Dewsbury. We were getting battered.

:23:19. > :23:28.There's a lot of nerves about a semifinal. There's a lot of nerves

:23:29. > :23:29.

:23:29. > :24:18.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:24:18. > :24:28.hear from some of these London think that was high. I don't think

:24:28. > :24:36.that was a penalty, was it? chance. It's just an opportunity for

:24:36. > :24:46.the touch judge to come on and show he's on TV today! I think he's hard

:24:46. > :24:57.

:24:57. > :25:07.done to there. No one else spotted not your day it's not your taste. --

:25:07. > :25:27.

:25:27. > :25:33.Taylor. That's too easy. A penalty that goes against you, they go too

:25:33. > :25:39.far back in the penalty because they work guessing that Wigan were going

:25:39. > :25:44.to kick the touch. Mossop makes about 25 yards. This is the tackle

:25:44. > :25:53.which was not a high tackle. Then they got so far back, look how much

:25:53. > :25:58.of a try Mossop did. A very tired lung -- London Broncos defence.

:25:58. > :26:08.is the sheer power of this pack. Everyone of them, it's taking two or

:26:08. > :26:21.

:26:21. > :26:29.in respect of the penalty that wasn't a penalty. That's his sixth

:26:29. > :26:33.goal of the afternoon, his 16th point of the match. Wigan, 40-0. I

:26:33. > :26:42.really do think that we could be looking around somewhere of that

:26:42. > :26:51.figure of 1992 semifinal, when it was 71-10 for Wigan against

:26:51. > :27:01.Bradford? How dare you mention it! That's twice, I'm putting a claim in

:27:01. > :27:30.

:27:30. > :27:40.Broncos is Jamie O'Callaghan. O'Loughlin made a world-class

:27:40. > :27:54.

:27:54. > :28:04.decision there. It epitomises the came across there. Good play from

:28:04. > :28:04.

:28:04. > :29:01.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:29:01. > :29:09.ragged here. Desperate tackling by the London Broncos. He is in! A

:29:09. > :29:18.beautiful try! The darting run, the instant sidestep, in at the side of

:29:18. > :29:28.the post. Wonderful halfback play from this lard. -- lad. That's just

:29:28. > :29:30.

:29:30. > :29:38.a vision of a tired defence. They are falling off tackles everywhere.

:29:38. > :29:48.I think it's Matt Cook who gets caught here. He takes on the inside

:29:48. > :29:58.

:29:58. > :30:05.and leaves him for pace and breaking a line, as a full-back you

:30:05. > :30:15.haven't got much chance. Richards will be welcoming all this

:30:15. > :30:38.

:30:38. > :30:43.seven? The Wigan fans are massed must be close to the record now,

:30:43. > :30:53.eight scored in a semifinal, I think. Well, let's just have a cat

:30:53. > :30:53.

:30:53. > :30:59.this footwork from Smith, Jonathan. As Brian said, the isolated prop,

:30:59. > :31:05.you see him cutting inside, very good finish. Yes, you are quite

:31:05. > :31:12.right about the record. The record number of points was in that 71-10

:31:12. > :31:16.defeat at Bradford by Wigan in 1992. The former all Black and Wigan

:31:16. > :31:22.full-back has the record. I do not know whether Brian members it or

:31:22. > :31:32.not. Let me just pick up on that! thought we would put this one to bed

:31:32. > :31:38.

:31:38. > :31:43.if Wigan played well enough today, position, 74%. The Broncos, 26!

:31:43. > :31:47.the guys were saying at half-time, if you try to fix things, you go

:31:47. > :31:50.back to where you are, all of a sudden you find yourself lower. You

:31:50. > :32:00.try harder to go higher and find yourself lower, you cannot get out

:32:00. > :32:10.

:32:10. > :32:17.are, the stats, second-half possession, 79%! You cannot hope to

:32:17. > :32:27.win a game. Territory, 73%.Goodness me! Let's see what they can do with

:32:27. > :32:28.

:32:28. > :32:36.this set of six. Who will inspire this London side? Ben Fisher trying

:32:36. > :32:46.to push O'Callaghan down that side. We have not seen figures like that

:32:46. > :33:18.

:33:18. > :33:23.on a month's loan from Wigan to the Broncos. Well taken by Charlie! I

:33:23. > :33:33.thought he had a chance, I thought he saw a gap. So did he, he thought

:33:33. > :34:08.

:34:08. > :34:15.Tomkins is away! He has beaten three already, beautiful pass, one-handed!

:34:15. > :34:21.Oh, he has lost it! Wonderful rugby! He just could not hold the

:34:21. > :34:26.ball at the last minute. But sensational running. He is just

:34:26. > :34:29.picking them off now, coming into the game when he wants. He spots the

:34:29. > :34:39.tired forwards on the side of the ruck. Just watching, this is the end

:34:39. > :35:02.

:35:02. > :35:08.clever. That is a very good rule change, that is. There is the knock

:35:08. > :35:13.on, it is a free play, before the new law he would have held that any

:35:13. > :35:19.hand and not tried it. But he now knows that is a free play, and if he

:35:19. > :35:29.does not score, the ball goes back for a scrum. The Broncos mascot just

:35:29. > :36:02.

:36:03. > :36:12.about says it all. He looks upset. the skill, the skill in this pass by

:36:13. > :36:13.

:36:13. > :36:18.Lough Erne. -- O'Loughlin. Total dominance, Brian, but that is

:36:18. > :36:22.special, a special skill. Yes, and it's just emphasises the fact that

:36:22. > :36:32.he has got everything in his locker, he can play tough, carried the

:36:32. > :36:33.

:36:34. > :36:38.ball. Look at that! That is class, that is class. Watch it again. That

:36:38. > :36:44.is great. He spots the winner coming in, and if he catches that, he gets

:36:44. > :36:54.nailed, man and ball. With the pace on the ball, he just put his hands

:36:54. > :37:14.

:37:14. > :37:22.onto it, increases the pace, and attempts at GCSE maths, but I make

:37:22. > :37:32.it that he has now equalled the... Hang on, Ray, I will pick you up

:37:32. > :37:36.

:37:36. > :37:41.there, I do not think you were doing around, it looked like it was going

:37:41. > :37:50.right across the face of the posts, but Pat Richards kicks in a cracker

:37:50. > :37:54.of a goal. Just watch this pass from behind, right? Brilliant from

:37:54. > :37:59.O'Loughlin. He has one step to get rid of him, and he saw it two plays

:37:59. > :38:07.earlier. He picks somebody out and got the ball back to where he wanted

:38:07. > :38:17.it. The best thing about that, he executed the play. 08 goals to Pat

:38:17. > :38:37.

:38:37. > :38:41.tackles made 60, 110. It is a very testing every ounce of the reserves

:38:41. > :38:47.of the strength of the London Broncos site. Wigan are making their

:38:47. > :38:51.tackles count, and Wigan's attacking prowess will mean the London players

:38:51. > :39:01.do not even lay a hand on them to miss a tackle. Just look at this one

:39:01. > :39:07.

:39:07. > :39:14.here, Thornley, all 6-foot four of at half-time, their intensity is

:39:14. > :39:17.what he will be pleased about. if it is 0-0 or 20 up, they still

:39:17. > :39:27.complete their sets, put the right kick in, make the right decision at

:39:27. > :39:57.

:39:57. > :40:07.ground, but they are on the last Child. Oh, yes, just. A good

:40:07. > :40:42.

:40:42. > :40:51.of beer! The halfbacks again for Wigan, Liam Farrell, back in the

:40:51. > :40:57.side, a good second row! The former Wigan Saint Patrick is a matter, now

:40:57. > :41:01.heading for the England World Cup side. -- amateur. Again, it is the

:41:01. > :41:11.decision-making on the pass, they create the overlap, just watch the

:41:11. > :41:17.

:41:17. > :41:21.Tomkins. He spots the winger coming in, puts Richards into space. He

:41:21. > :41:31.does not decide to take the last defender on. And then great support

:41:31. > :41:47.

:41:47. > :41:51.office for Tony Rea, very little he can do about it. He knows the

:41:51. > :41:56.difference in strength and pace and quality between these two sides.

:41:56. > :42:06.Very little he can do. It just shows, really, the difference

:42:06. > :42:11.

:42:11. > :42:21.between the top and the bottom of goal-kicking. No hint of any breeze

:42:21. > :42:24.

:42:24. > :42:34.around, he has got derailed that today. Another one from Pat

:42:34. > :42:34.

:42:34. > :42:38.Richards. 58-0, and that last half a smile on his face. It is the

:42:39. > :42:43.execution again, playing so close to the line, the halfbacks, tight,

:42:43. > :42:47.opening up, preserving space on the fringes, rather than creating it

:42:47. > :42:57.with the straight line is that the halfbacks play. It is an easy score

:42:57. > :43:12.

:43:12. > :43:17.in the end, really created in and again, giving penalties away. It is

:43:17. > :43:21.a tough challenge to try to change the mentality and change the aspect

:43:21. > :43:26.of the game, it is a tough one. eighth penalty conceded by the

:43:26. > :43:36.Broncos. Because they are winning the tackle, and they? Very powerful,

:43:36. > :44:11.

:44:11. > :44:18.Playing the ball early, bringing man Thornley again, he is strong,

:44:18. > :44:28.and he powers in again. The passing in the middle of the field is too

:44:28. > :44:37.

:44:37. > :44:47.much, too fast, too slick for the their repertoire of players they

:44:47. > :44:57.

:44:57. > :45:02.somebody like they took off Thornley there... They take the ball to the

:45:02. > :45:07.line, they hope the inside defence and then they are isolated out wide.

:45:07. > :45:10.That's a very easy tribal Thornley. Very difficult for the wings and the

:45:10. > :45:18.full-back. But they've got to communicate, they both went for the

:45:18. > :45:24.same man there. I feel they've thrown the towel in bit now. This

:45:24. > :45:34.could now be any score. I do feel that the last couple of tries, they

:45:34. > :46:06.

:46:06. > :46:16.now are tiring badly. They just can't keep this Wigan attack out.

:46:16. > :46:16.

:46:16. > :46:20.You get tired when you are winning 64-0. Not when you are losing.

:46:20. > :46:30.Wigan are still confident. Don't forget, we've got another semifinal

:46:30. > :46:45.

:46:45. > :46:55.tomorrow. Hull FC versus Warrington. They've got to keep it for six

:46:55. > :47:02.

:47:02. > :47:08.Super League. It's important they do and show some of the things that all

:47:08. > :47:18.we can practice Tony Rea and the players were working on. Put your

:47:18. > :47:18.

:47:18. > :48:06.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:48:06. > :48:16.got support? Oh! A little bit of over eagerness therefrom Liam

:48:16. > :48:16.

:48:16. > :48:57.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:48:57. > :49:03.Farrell. He was wanting to run off there was a point between the two

:49:03. > :49:06.sides. That's important for Wigan and their coach. When you are a

:49:06. > :49:10.champion team like Wigan are, they are looking to do everything

:49:10. > :49:14.absolutely perfectly. They've shown aggression, they've shown bigger,

:49:14. > :49:19.when they've lost the ball they've whacked London so hard that they've

:49:19. > :49:25.got the ball back. That's why London haven't progressed up the field.

:49:25. > :49:35.Here is a chance! Two metres short. A good tackle by Mcllorum. Broncos

:49:35. > :49:48.

:49:48. > :49:53.you are in the latter stages. They will play against very good sides.

:49:53. > :49:57.This is the area where you want to keep that intensity and pace going.

:49:57. > :50:01.More importantly, keep the concentration going. Mistakes come

:50:01. > :50:11.when you are tired, so they will try and push themselves to play to the

:50:11. > :50:39.

:50:39. > :50:49.really emerging in this Wigan pack. Harrison Hansen, at 64-0, he's

:50:49. > :50:56.

:50:56. > :51:06.arguing with the referee there about both winners and losers. It's very

:51:06. > :51:06.

:51:06. > :52:05.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:52:05. > :52:15.breather. They are not too bothered run. He is a very solid hooker,

:52:15. > :52:28.

:52:28. > :52:38.on the outside wide. Wonderful slip of a pass from Goulding there.

:52:38. > :52:45.

:52:46. > :52:55.good understanding. As soon as the ball went to the right hand on its

:52:56. > :53:14.

:53:14. > :53:24.and they get the ricochet back to right. Charnley just has to come

:53:24. > :53:24.

:53:24. > :55:38.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:55:38. > :55:41.the ball well. Delight on those match, Pat Richards has scored 28

:55:41. > :55:47.points. Matty Smith has been brilliant. For me, head and

:55:47. > :55:57.shoulders above everyone today, has been Sean O'Loughlin. He has been

:55:57. > :55:58.

:55:58. > :56:08.superb. He has launched so many forwards down the middle. He has

:56:08. > :56:15.

:56:15. > :56:25.taken the ball to them line. He's have been the standouts. Can the

:56:25. > :56:25.

:56:25. > :57:42.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:57:42. > :57:45.determinedly as they were in the doesn't go to Jamie Soward. A metre

:57:45. > :57:55.short, but that's the professionalism of this side,

:57:55. > :58:05.

:58:05. > :58:15.tackling for their dear lives. It's heads up, I think Tommy Lee has had

:58:15. > :58:46.

:58:46. > :58:51.a decent game today. But he won't be of six... That man might well

:58:51. > :59:01.smile, it has been a record-breaking day for him. The most points ever in

:59:01. > :59:13.

:59:13. > :59:17.a semifinal. Can Wigan grab this one Wigan have made today! I think that

:59:17. > :59:27.shortcake was supposed to go a bit further for Pat Richards. That's

:59:27. > :59:42.

:59:42. > :59:52.probably the only piece of poor player. The last seconds ticking

:59:52. > :00:05.

:00:06. > :00:12.down. Can the Broncos snatch one appearance in an amazing 30th Cup

:00:12. > :00:18.Final. They won't want this year 's Tetleys Challenge Cup Final two end

:00:18. > :00:26.up like that last one after beating the Broncos. 70-0. That is some

:00:26. > :00:28.scoreline. They were too good for them, they started badly and got

:00:29. > :00:31.worse. Their discipline was they were too good for them, they started

:00:31. > :00:33.badly and got worse. Their discipline was poor, they made too

:00:33. > :00:35.many errors, and Wigan capitalised on everything. Poor, they made too

:00:35. > :00:39.many errors, and Wigan capitalised on everything. You know, it was a

:00:39. > :00:49.bit of a one horse you know, it was a bit of a one horse race race

:00:49. > :00:51.

:00:51. > :00:55.and I am sure already Yes, happy days for this Wigan side, and I am

:00:55. > :00:57.sure already that Shaun Wane will be assessing the prospects for tackling

:00:57. > :00:59.Warrington in the second semifinal at Huddersfield tomorrow night. That

:00:59. > :01:09.Shaun Wane will be assessing the prospects for tackling Warrington in

:01:09. > :01:16.

:01:16. > :01:19.the second semifinal at Huddersfield congratulations, how does it feel to

:01:19. > :01:21.be going to Wembley again? It feels fantastic, Shaun Wane, the Wigan

:01:21. > :01:24.coach, congratulations, how does it feel to be going to Wembley again?

:01:24. > :01:27.It feels fantastic, we lost last year after playing poorly. We lost

:01:27. > :01:32.last year after playing poorly. We were outstanding today. Contract we

:01:32. > :01:42.were outstanding today. Compare and compare and contrast with last year.

:01:42. > :01:53.

:01:53. > :01:56.match is here, Sean O'Loughlin congratulations, the man of the

:01:56. > :01:58.match is here, Sean O'Loughlin, congratulations. What was the key to

:01:58. > :02:01.the victory today? , congratulations. What was the key to

:02:01. > :02:04.the victory today? We got off to a really good start, settled into the

:02:04. > :02:07.game We got off to a really good start, settled into the game. It was

:02:07. > :02:17.always going to be a struggle for London to come back. . It was always

:02:17. > :02:50.

:02:50. > :02:53.going to be a struggle for London to the moment the Wigan players down

:02:53. > :03:03.below us at the moment are on their lap of honour. Are on their lap of

:03:03. > :03:07.

:03:07. > :03:10.honour. The players are staying back say after a semifinal like that, and

:03:10. > :03:12.we will talk with Ian Millward and Brian Noble shortly There are all

:03:12. > :03:22.sorts of things we can say after a semifinal like that, and we will

:03:22. > :03:22.

:03:22. > :04:20.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

:04:20. > :04:23.talk with Ian Millward and Brian it means to him, because last year

:04:23. > :04:25.semifinal hit him hard. Let's start with Shaun Wane and what it means to

:04:26. > :04:28.him, because last year semifinal hit him hard. Whenever you lose one, you

:04:28. > :04:31.want to put some structures in place and learn from your mistakes.

:04:31. > :04:41.Whenever you lose one, you want to put some structures in place and

:04:41. > :04:59.

:04:59. > :05:06.were too good for them, they started badly and got Without those people

:05:06. > :05:12.we wouldn't have it. The fans here today, they were vocal. You can see

:05:12. > :05:17.what it meant to them, Wembley. They want to get back there and walk up

:05:17. > :05:23.the Wembley walk. The big thing is you've got to maintain that for the

:05:23. > :05:29.final. Pat Richards, most points in a semifinal, the biggest winning

:05:29. > :05:39.margin in a semifinal as well today. Josh Charnley has hit a

:05:39. > :05:43.

:05:43. > :05:47.personal milestone with 100 tries the club, what does that feel like?

:05:47. > :05:53.It's a massive honour. It was a childhood dream to play for Wigan.

:05:53. > :05:57.To get the jersey and pick up 100 tries is good as well. What does the

:05:57. > :06:03.Challenge Cup mean to you? It's massive. We want to win all the

:06:03. > :06:10.trophies we can get. We fell short last year. We have bounced back well

:06:10. > :06:14.and we are going to Wembley. does the fantastic support spur you

:06:14. > :06:18.on? It gives you a bit of a lift. When you feel a bit tired and you

:06:19. > :06:28.hear them screaming, it gives you a buzz. Congratulations, keep scoring

:06:29. > :06:30.

:06:30. > :06:35.The Wigan fans haven't got that far to get home. That is something that

:06:35. > :06:41.a few of you have tweeted about. We will talk about the venue for this

:06:41. > :06:51.semifinal during the forum at 7pm on the red button. The players continue

:06:51. > :06:51.

:06:51. > :06:55.what does that mean to you individually? That's the reason why

:06:55. > :06:59.I came to Wigan, to play in big games. To get to Wembley, one step

:07:00. > :07:05.away from lifting the trophy is massive for me and the team. What do

:07:05. > :07:10.you think went well for you as a team today? I thought we started a

:07:10. > :07:20.bit jittery, but our defence turns up week in week out. We work in our

:07:20. > :07:31.

:07:31. > :07:33.defence. I think that went over the line today. We ended up scoring a

:07:33. > :07:37.few good tries. Sean O'Loughlin, a fantastic performance today, how

:07:37. > :07:39.much of a leader is he for you and how much does he inspire you on?

:07:39. > :07:48.He's a massive inspiration. We miss him when he's out. We missed him

:07:48. > :07:52.last week. He came back today and played really well. We said he was a

:07:52. > :07:57.world-class performer who would not go amiss in any team, and still have

:07:57. > :08:02.the luxury to bring him back, a captain of that ilk, it is pivotal

:08:02. > :08:07.for this team. He said, he is our leader, we look up to him. When it

:08:07. > :08:11.gets tough, do you know what? He placed up. When it is easy, he still

:08:11. > :08:14.plays tough! He has been instrumental in everything that

:08:14. > :08:19.Wigan have done today, carrying the ball up the line with his passing

:08:19. > :08:25.skills, following Ben Flower, he got the play at the end, taking two or

:08:25. > :08:29.three people out. He bashes him like he is not there. He has the vision,

:08:29. > :08:35.while he is still running and bumping people off, to know that he

:08:35. > :08:39.has players on the outside. Great execution of the past. In everything

:08:39. > :08:44.he does, he preserves space on the outside for people to finish it off.

:08:44. > :08:48.If it does not matter if he is going square, he commits and preserves the

:08:49. > :08:53.space, and he must be a joy to play outside. It is that combination of

:08:53. > :08:58.physical presence, hulking physical presence, and yet deft hands as

:08:58. > :09:03.well. He is the consummate rugby league player, it is a group or

:09:03. > :09:13.game, that element of subtlety... Here we see Smith finish off a

:09:13. > :09:13.

:09:13. > :09:18.player, what he and says, this is just subliminal. He should be on

:09:18. > :09:22.O'Loughlin, the defender. He comes on. That is a skill in itself, and

:09:22. > :09:27.flicking the ball on, don't grab for the ball. Look, they got a lot of

:09:27. > :09:30.confidence as the game went on. Matty Smith, one of the things that

:09:30. > :09:37.players say, he should run the ball more, and they gave him that

:09:37. > :09:44.luxury, London. What I like about the end of that, Pat Richards scores

:09:44. > :09:48.the try, but all the players go to high-5 and slap O'Loughlin.

:09:48. > :09:52.called the play two plays before it happened, he knew he had an

:09:52. > :09:56.opportunity with the numbers on the left-hand side, and then to execute

:09:56. > :10:00.the play as well, I think that is why everybody feeds of his end-users

:10:01. > :10:05.and knowledge of the game. We are looking at the Wigan dressing room,

:10:05. > :10:09.a discussion going on about how much of Josh Charnley we can show,

:10:09. > :10:13.because we are not quite sure if he has got any pants on. He has, says

:10:13. > :10:19.the relieved voice in my year! We are scrutinising that band right in

:10:19. > :10:23.the middle to see how many clothes a has got on. Let's talk about his

:10:23. > :10:27.100th try instead. He gets great service from the inside from a lot

:10:27. > :10:32.of people, but it is his ability to sense what is going to happen. The

:10:32. > :10:40.drags his defender out. When you get to the touchline, if you're defender

:10:40. > :10:48.stays out, you come in. If he goes in, you stay out. He stays out, now,

:10:48. > :10:55.he understands now, Charnley has great instincts. His positional play

:10:55. > :11:00.is very good. To be fair, Darrell Goulding gave him a huge tip there.

:11:00. > :11:04.That is a combination play that they have on that side. This is what it

:11:04. > :11:09.meant to the Wigan dressing room, to be back at Wembley for their 30th

:11:09. > :11:13.Challenge Cup final. They are celebrating, it will be a very

:11:13. > :11:19.different reaction in the London dressing room. Let's hear from their

:11:19. > :11:23.coach, Tony Rea is with David. Commiserations, you have been on the

:11:23. > :11:26.end of a real hiding today. What are your thoughts and feelings at the

:11:27. > :11:31.moment? We are obviously really shattered. It was not what we came

:11:31. > :11:36.here to do today. We had really high hopes for what we were going to get

:11:36. > :11:41.out of the game. Just a ridiculous penalty count against us.

:11:41. > :11:45.Horrendous, we never got the ball, and I just thought there was a point

:11:45. > :11:52.in the first half were wanting was going to crack, and I thought we had

:11:52. > :11:57.a chance of being the one to crack them. But we lost our discipline, in

:11:57. > :12:02.marking play and defence. Their plea to Wigan, they are a very good

:12:02. > :12:08.team, they are bigger and better and more powerful and they steamrollers.

:12:08. > :12:11.-- their play. For ten minutes you had a hold on the game. We have got

:12:11. > :12:15.to understand and believe that, but we felt like we were not clear

:12:16. > :12:20.enough in our eyes that was happening for us. It is tough in

:12:20. > :12:24.these big games, you have got to be tough, and we were not tough enough.

:12:24. > :12:28.Thank you for talking to us. He has been involved at every level

:12:28. > :12:38.with London, in whatever form they have had, whatever name, and he

:12:38. > :12:41.

:12:41. > :12:43.one wants to see such a blow out. Wigan were clinical, they

:12:43. > :12:48.scrutinised the London team, and they executed, they were intense. On

:12:48. > :12:52.the other side of that, people challenge your commitment, challenge

:12:52. > :12:57.your willingness to do well. It is so far from the truth, the effort

:12:57. > :13:01.was there from London but they could not get a foothold in the game.

:13:01. > :13:08.will talk more about London in the forum from seven o'clock on the red

:13:08. > :13:18.button. Sam Tomkins. We talk about effort in the game, and his efforts

:13:18. > :13:20.

:13:20. > :13:25.could go sideways, I have got to say, he has got a quick twitch about

:13:25. > :13:28.everything he does. He looks at that with instinct, he does not take an

:13:29. > :13:33.eternity to do it. We have got a clip coming up, watch his balance

:13:33. > :13:37.when he runs. I know they said this was a high tackle, but your coach

:13:37. > :13:43.cannot tell you how to balance. He has this ability to slither out of

:13:43. > :13:47.tackles when he runs. The players the right of him, that is what I

:13:47. > :13:53.love about him. This is brilliant, this. This takes effort, behind the

:13:53. > :13:57.ruck. He is the third last person to get the ball to create the try. They

:13:57. > :14:01.cannot number up on him. You have to have attitude for that, and you have

:14:02. > :14:06.to have vision, and you have to back it up with skill. If he stays on the

:14:06. > :14:10.short side to hold the defender, four on four, he goes to the back,

:14:10. > :14:15.but he has got the speed to get there. This is what he did at

:14:15. > :14:19.half-time, he spoke to the players, one of their leaders for the Wigan

:14:20. > :14:26.Warriors, and he is very close to the Challenge Cup. He cannot touch

:14:26. > :14:31.it just yet, he is with John. great to be back from injury, what

:14:31. > :14:34.an emphatic way to get through to the Challenge Cup final. Today, we

:14:34. > :14:38.spoke all week about this being about our performance, and we knew

:14:38. > :14:42.we would be favourites going into it, but London have got some strike

:14:42. > :14:48.players we have to look after, and I think we did that pretty well. The

:14:48. > :14:52.scoreboard showed that. With your balanced running style and the style

:14:52. > :14:57.to have, you will fancy getting the trophy at Wembley. That is a way

:14:57. > :15:01.away to be thinking about just yet, but we looking forward to Wembley.

:15:01. > :15:05.We are lucky enough that a lot of the group were there in 2011 and won

:15:05. > :15:09.it, one of the best days for all of us, and we spoke about that to the

:15:09. > :15:13.other lads who have not experienced it. A lot of the lads have not been

:15:13. > :15:21.involved in semifinals, and I know today was different, but it is great

:15:21. > :15:27.to get that under our belt. something particularly special about

:15:27. > :15:30.your outfit today. Tell us about your boots. It is the charity that

:15:30. > :15:35.rugby league has got behind massively in the last 18 months. It

:15:35. > :15:39.is for a young lad called Jack, he has Duchenne muscular dystrophy.

:15:39. > :15:44.There is no cure for it. We are trying to raise as much money to go

:15:44. > :15:51.into research and save not only Jack's life but a lot of other

:15:51. > :15:58.people 's. I've been able to design my own boots and I had this idea

:15:58. > :16:05.that came to me, why not have them for the charity? We used the colours

:16:05. > :16:11.that we used on the kit last year and made this one pair. These will

:16:11. > :16:17.be auctioned off. There's only one been made. Hopefully someone will

:16:17. > :16:21.bid big. It's going to a great cause. People dig deep, plenty of

:16:21. > :16:31.bids for those boots. Sam emphasising what fantastic

:16:31. > :16:36.

:16:36. > :16:43.ambassadors these guys are, myself the red button. We will be on the

:16:43. > :16:50.red button from 7pm. Will the scoreline be something that we are

:16:50. > :16:54.going to talk about quite a lot, do you think? I think it will be

:16:54. > :16:58.mentioned, but I think it can be a catalyst for a lot of things for

:16:58. > :17:01.catalyst for a lot of things for both teams. Looking at some of the

:17:02. > :17:08.possessions, 73% possession for Wigan. I've never seen a team only

:17:08. > :17:17.have 500 metres for a game. They gave themselves no opportunity here

:17:17. > :17:23.today. I can see what -- I Tony Rea is shattered. This could be a

:17:23. > :17:29.catalyst for Wigan as well. We will talk a lot about the consequences

:17:29. > :17:34.for London, but this could always be big stuff for Wigan for what it has

:17:34. > :17:44.created. We will be live on BBC Two tomorrow for the semifinal of

:17:44. > :17:54.

:17:54. > :17:59.are defending really well. They have a chance of creating an upset. But

:17:59. > :18:03.Warrington are on fire at the moment, I'm going with Warrington.

:18:03. > :18:08.Even though London bottom of Super League, whoever wins will face a

:18:08. > :18:13.real test at Wigan. It will be a cracking final. Warrington are the

:18:13. > :18:19.form team of Super League. If they repeat that tomorrow they will win,

:18:19. > :18:26.which creates one mammoth game. know you sniggered at that but it is

:18:26. > :18:30.sometimes difficult, a semifinal that is this one-sided, to work out

:18:30. > :18:37.how dominant... I fully agree with you. They are a top team. A Wigan