Leeds v St Helens

:00:15. > :00:33.The game continues at a furious pace.

:00:34. > :00:55.This is the inner sanctum of Headingley Carnegie Institute.

:00:56. > :01:00.Historic moments adorn the walls, full of players and men who should

:01:01. > :01:04.not be forgotten. The current Leeds Rhinos squads are in there, looking

:01:05. > :01:07.to create their own history, a place in the Challenge Cup quarterfinal is

:01:08. > :01:12.up for grabs. They are taking on Saint Helens, two of the game's

:01:13. > :02:17.great clubs and great entertainers. We cannot wait for this game to

:02:18. > :02:23.start. We are very excited about it and we hope you are as well. There

:02:24. > :02:28.is a weak crowd here at Headingley for Leeds against St Helens. Young

:02:29. > :02:35.and old are ready to go and kick off its less than half an hour away. The

:02:36. > :02:41.players are warming up in the sunshine here in Yorkshire. Same is

:02:42. > :02:49.warming up, the Leeds cheerleaders are coming out and the Leeds Rhinos

:02:50. > :02:54.players will be out shortly as well. Let's look at the Challenge Cup

:02:55. > :03:00.fifth round draw. All the ties are over this weekend.

:03:01. > :03:14.All the other games are tomorrow, with a couple of Super League ties.

:03:15. > :03:19.We are on BBC One until 4:30pm, and then we will be on the red button

:03:20. > :03:23.for another half an hour after that. We will take your questions and look

:03:24. > :03:28.at the rest of the fifth round ties, and then a quarterfinal draw

:03:29. > :03:33.is on Monday evening, 6:30pm on the BBC News Channel. You will be able

:03:34. > :03:39.to see all the action from the fifth round on the Super League show,

:03:40. > :03:43.Challenge Cup fifth round special, Monday in the North from 11:55pm,

:03:44. > :03:53.and then on the iPlayer from Tuesday. This should be a cracker.

:03:54. > :03:58.This will be an amazing game, the sun coming out just in time. I

:03:59. > :04:05.expect some great strides and perhaps some dodgy decisions as

:04:06. > :04:10.well. You can't let it go! He has changed his name to Jose Mourinho!

:04:11. > :04:16.The elephant in the room, let's get it out of the way. This is the final

:04:17. > :04:29.minute of the game, Huddersfield against Saints. They did not take

:04:30. > :04:34.any chances and nailed it right through the middle. First one,

:04:35. > :04:43.definitely a drop goal. Second one, no, it didn't go over. Mr Benson,

:04:44. > :04:49.the referee, said, I was there and I saw it and it didn't go over. Live

:04:50. > :04:55.Walsh had no reaction when he saw it. When it's Danny Brough kicked

:04:56. > :05:04.that, he immediately celebrated. Was he fooling? Unfortunately, it just

:05:05. > :05:12.wasn't to be. Walshe's kick was special in itself. There was a real

:05:13. > :05:17.sense of injustice for Huddersfield at the end. It is a horrible thing

:05:18. > :05:31.to go through, because you think you have done enough and we hadn't. You

:05:32. > :05:36.get to work with Brian, and when you look at the Super League table,

:05:37. > :05:39.Brian, since Saints got through at Huddersfield, they got through a

:05:40. > :05:43.Castleford Tigers. They were unbeaten going into that game. They

:05:44. > :05:51.are now down in third. Huddersfield were the better team on the day.

:05:52. > :05:56.Subsequent form has not been good. They need to bring a game plan today

:05:57. > :06:01.that offers a lot towards Leeds. Everybody talks about possession of

:06:02. > :06:07.the ball. If they are simplistic and only have one shot against Leeds,

:06:08. > :06:10.they will get more joy, so they will have to play the expansive kind of

:06:11. > :06:16.football that we are used to seeing from Saints.

:06:17. > :06:26.Was it a bit of a. From St Helens? Not really. They deserved the point

:06:27. > :06:30.that they got. They are struggling with injury and things like that. It

:06:31. > :06:34.makes a massive difference. And you are a believer that form does not

:06:35. > :06:38.get out of the window in the Challenge Cup final? It is about the

:06:39. > :06:42.individuals who have to look at their game and rectify what is going

:06:43. > :06:48.wrong in the team. I would not read too much into their game against

:06:49. > :06:54.Widnes. I think they are ready for today. They have a big chance today.

:06:55. > :07:00.Let's find out which players are ready for today.

:07:01. > :07:09.We have a different Saints side than the one that lost to Widnes. A more

:07:10. > :07:19.familiar line-up for Saints today. Jonny Lomax is back in, but the big

:07:20. > :07:38.news for them is that Kyle a Moore is back. -- Kyle Amor is back. Mosin

:07:39. > :07:41.Masoe starts on the bench as well. As for Leeds, they are pretty much

:07:42. > :07:46.as we expected. They have shuffled the pack bit over Easter, but not

:07:47. > :07:54.much. Ben Jones-Bishop misses out and Zac Hardacre is back on

:07:55. > :07:57.fullback. Paul Ayton is a long-term absentee for them. Rob Burrow will

:07:58. > :08:11.start as a hooker for them. The Rhinos are just coming out of

:08:12. > :08:16.their changing room. They will be warming up very shortly. You can get

:08:17. > :08:30.in touch with us. Give us what you think about Jon Wilkin starting in

:08:31. > :08:36.the halves today. We are running a vote this afternoon, who'd you think

:08:37. > :08:43.will win this game? You can vote on the BBC sport website or you can

:08:44. > :08:48.tweet us. All the terms and conditions are on the BBC sport

:08:49. > :08:54.website. We will close the vote in about ten minutes and then we will

:08:55. > :09:01.give you the result of that vote before kick-off at Headingley. A lot

:09:02. > :09:05.of attention on Saints' backline this season. Jonny Lomax has been

:09:06. > :09:19.talking to his team-mate Jon Wilkin. One of the biggest changes we had at

:09:20. > :09:23.since last year was you switching to fullback. How did you find that

:09:24. > :09:27.transition? It is hard trying to take it upon the goal last year. The

:09:28. > :09:33.biggest thing is the freedom it gives you. It helps having Paul

:09:34. > :09:37.Owens around. He will look after you. He has been doing it for years

:09:38. > :09:42.on end and he is the perfect men thought to have. Your preparation

:09:43. > :09:47.for games, you are an unusual character with real superstitions in

:09:48. > :09:54.every aspect of your preparation. Yes! They are pretty bad, to be

:09:55. > :10:00.honest. Something I have always had when I was growing up. Lucky

:10:01. > :10:12.underpants, you grow out of them very quickly when you are growing

:10:13. > :10:15.up. Hard to keep up with some of them. I am not going any more and I

:10:16. > :10:21.do have my little care and the same pair of socks. As a young player,

:10:22. > :10:27.you had some bad injuries. Talk this through the early part of your

:10:28. > :10:31.career. I have to wear a head guard these days because of the injury,

:10:32. > :10:37.the haemorrhage, I had, a blood clot. At first I did not think it

:10:38. > :10:42.was very major, until I woke up in the hospital bed about five days

:10:43. > :10:46.later. To have injuries makes you appreciate the game more and

:10:47. > :10:49.appreciate why you play the game and why you have to play it for fun and

:10:50. > :10:54.it makes you appreciate it that bit more when you think it might be

:10:55. > :10:57.taken from you. As a young man coming into the Saint Helens team

:10:58. > :11:03.must be a dream come true. As you know, I was used to being nude,

:11:04. > :11:09.because I was being -- in awe of everybody. I didn't speak for about

:11:10. > :11:18.two years! You have come out of your shell now. Yes, definitely got over

:11:19. > :11:27.that now. Leeds on Saints in recent history, there is no bigger

:11:28. > :11:32.competition. The Challenge Cup, something as a kid growing up, I

:11:33. > :11:37.always used to go to it. In 1996, we got there, I was there with all the

:11:38. > :11:42.family. It was a great occasion. It is something that you dream about

:11:43. > :11:53.giving yourself one day. Good luck to both of us. Cheers.

:11:54. > :12:00.He talks about Paul Wellens, and the mentoring site is very important for

:12:01. > :12:07.a coach. Seasoned players give messages to younger players that you

:12:08. > :12:11.can't give as a coach. They are the Warriors who are out there doing it.

:12:12. > :12:15.If you look at the Leeds team and Jamie Peacock and what he has done

:12:16. > :12:18.throughout the years with a lot of players, it is vitally important

:12:19. > :12:21.that the standards he set are given right throughout the team. And he

:12:22. > :12:30.has benefited from that, Jonny Lomax. When we look at Lomax, he is

:12:31. > :12:37.involved in one of several fascinating head to heads on this

:12:38. > :12:41.pitch. The contrast between him and Zac Hardacre. Vidar two of the most

:12:42. > :12:50.exciting players in the Super League right now, simply because they cover

:12:51. > :12:53.so many metres. They are the men who get the ball forward and make sure

:12:54. > :12:58.you get on the front foot. They are exciting. They have only been doing

:12:59. > :13:05.this has fullbacks for the last couple of years and it scares me to

:13:06. > :13:10.think where they will be. It will be fascinating watching England in the

:13:11. > :13:14.years going forward because of the fullback talent available. As far as

:13:15. > :13:19.the Saint Helens team is concerned, take us through it, Brian. The back

:13:20. > :13:27.three that all talked about there, headed up by Jonny Lomax, with Adam

:13:28. > :13:38.Swift, at silly names, and Tom Makinson. Mark Percival is back in

:13:39. > :13:42.the team. New halfback partner for Luke Walsh, getting all the

:13:43. > :13:49.headlines with his kicking, Jon Wilkin, with his left foot kick.

:13:50. > :13:55.Upfront, James Roby, one of the world's best hookers, alongside Alex

:13:56. > :14:12.Walmsley and Kyle Amor. Off the bench, Greg Richards and the

:14:13. > :14:25.experienced Paul Wellens, well over 400 games for his club and a mental

:14:26. > :14:34.to Jonny Lomax. A formidable Saint Helens outfit. Thank you very much.

:14:35. > :14:39.This is how they are going to play. We say in rugby League that the back

:14:40. > :14:44.determine the score of the game, but the forwards determine the outcome.

:14:45. > :14:49.We have two of the best set of forwards in rugby League here today.

:14:50. > :14:53.We have James Roby for Saint Helens, they are going through that last

:14:54. > :14:59.stretches now. We have Sia Soliola, supported by Alex Walmsley and Josh

:15:00. > :15:06.Jones. But the player I want to focus on is just down here, Mosin

:15:07. > :15:09.Masoe. He is like a human avalanche! When he is carrying the

:15:10. > :15:14.ball, he is a war in motion and that is what makes him dangerous. When he

:15:15. > :15:18.carries the ball to the line, he is going to draw several defenders all

:15:19. > :15:24.the way to him, which will create space on the edges. That is what Jon

:15:25. > :15:31.Wilkin and the other halves will be playing off the back of. They have

:15:32. > :15:33.some strikers in these players. We will just have a word with Jon

:15:34. > :15:41.Wilkin who is stretching on the ground here. How have the

:15:42. > :15:48.preparations gone? We have prepared well, it is a big crowd, TV

:15:49. > :15:54.audience, and we are ready to play. Good luck.

:15:55. > :15:59.I had visions of him having to lie down next to him! Is that the right

:16:00. > :16:04.decision, playing him at halfback? Time will tell. Nathan Brown feels

:16:05. > :16:13.it gives him a left footed kicking option. Jon Wilkin is a bit more

:16:14. > :16:16.substantial, akin to Kevin Sinfield. It adds the size threat and the

:16:17. > :16:23.footballing threat, with a ball carrying threat. It is not as if he

:16:24. > :16:32.is a stranger to playing there. He played there last year. Let's switch

:16:33. > :16:33.from Saint Helens to Leeds. We will introduce you to a member of their

:16:34. > :16:48.squad, Kallum Watkins. Kallum Watkins, Leeds Rhinos. I am

:16:49. > :16:55.from Manchester, mainly a football city. In terms of rugby, it is all

:16:56. > :17:02.about Salford, my dad knew a couple of mates, he got me and my brother

:17:03. > :17:10.into it. It went on from there, I met some great friends, and here I

:17:11. > :17:15.am. Keith senior took me under his wing, he was fantastic with me, I

:17:16. > :17:19.learned a lot from him. He is respected around the world. He was a

:17:20. > :17:25.fantastic player. I want to be the same. We have a couple of players

:17:26. > :17:31.here now, Kevin Sinfield, Jamie Peacock, Rob Rowe, they always turn

:17:32. > :17:39.up. That gives you a big boost. When I was a younger player, I aspired to

:17:40. > :17:47.match that. He is great, if you work hard, you will get your chance. He

:17:48. > :17:52.has had trust in players, and that will give them a big boost, no

:17:53. > :17:59.matter what age. Kallum Watkins, and England try! The

:18:00. > :18:02.noise has just reached roof lifting proportions!

:18:03. > :18:09.That was amazing, the dream come true. Something that I dream. As a

:18:10. > :18:16.kid, scoring a try at Wembley for England. Something that I will

:18:17. > :18:20.treasure for the rest of my life. My little lad is one now, we are really

:18:21. > :18:24.happy as a family, but it has changed me as a person, I have

:18:25. > :18:30.mature a bit more. He is my main focus, and I am proud to be a proud

:18:31. > :18:38.dad. What a finish! Sensational!

:18:39. > :18:42.We started on fire, they might have lost the previous two results, but

:18:43. > :18:47.in terms of how they have been playing, it has been great, they are

:18:48. > :18:50.good with the ball in hand, they have attacking players. It is a

:18:51. > :18:57.Challenge Cup game, it is a knockout, we want to get to Wembley.

:18:58. > :19:03.Every team wants to do that. We have got to beat the best teams, that is

:19:04. > :19:10.the way it has to be. It is a challenge we want to take.

:19:11. > :19:16.How much has he benefited from playing alongside Joel Moon? Joel

:19:17. > :19:21.Moon is an exceptional talent, he goes under the radar, he creates so

:19:22. > :19:26.much stuff. Kallum Watkins is becoming a freak of nature, his

:19:27. > :19:32.tries are unbelievable. Is he the best English centre at the moment?

:19:33. > :19:37.Yes, he has size, strength, power, pace, great hands, he has solved a

:19:38. > :19:41.couple of his defensive issues, he has really improved. But about the

:19:42. > :19:48.partnership? Has that brought him on? The back five, including the

:19:49. > :19:52.wingers and the fullback, watch out. If you play against this team, you

:19:53. > :20:03.have to be ready. Take us through the team. Zak Hardaker, Tom Briscoe

:20:04. > :20:12.and Ryan Hall on the back three. That is why Jon Wilkin is in there.

:20:13. > :20:19.The form centres of the competition, Joel Moon has been on fire, but

:20:20. > :20:28.Kallum Watkins, the power and pace he has, he is a pleasure to watch.

:20:29. > :20:32.The saddle halves, Danny McGuire and Kevin Sinfield, they will know what

:20:33. > :20:38.to do. The experience different row, Rob Burrow, Kylie Leuluai and Jamie

:20:39. > :20:42.Peacock. Two big men and one little bloke in the middle. The back three

:20:43. > :20:46.has been established this year, Rhett Delaney back in the team,

:20:47. > :20:52.along with col tablet and Mitch a church. From the bench, Ian Kirk and

:20:53. > :20:58.Chris Clarkson, they are used to this position, they know what to do

:20:59. > :21:05.when they come into the outfit. The young guns, Liam Sutcliffe and Brad

:21:06. > :21:10.Singleton. They know their roles. They have huge prospects in the

:21:11. > :21:14.game. The last Super League game was against Salford, they beat them. Ben

:21:15. > :21:18.Jones-Bishop amongst the try scorers. He is not involved today.

:21:19. > :21:26.Does that highlight the strength in depth? Yes. With the wingers, they

:21:27. > :21:31.offer something different. Ben Jones-Bishop can finish tries off,

:21:32. > :21:35.he is quick and smart. The other two wingers get them forward a bit more,

:21:36. > :21:41.and that is where the game is won. In the first 15 minutes, you have to

:21:42. > :21:46.march down the field and control it. Some great examples, you do not hand

:21:47. > :21:50.over the ball, that is why Jon Wilkin is playing, to kick the ball

:21:51. > :21:56.in a certain manner. Ben Jones-Bishop, you give him that

:21:57. > :22:02.space, and here again, they do not clean up, Salford, and Tom Briscoe

:22:03. > :22:09.comes up with it. Bluelight should be flashing. If we are talking about

:22:10. > :22:15.players being arrested the week before a Challenge Cup tie --

:22:16. > :22:20.players being rested, Leeds Rhinos have the ability to do that, but not

:22:21. > :22:28.many other sides have. They did not rest anybody over Easter. Other

:22:29. > :22:32.sides did. Their philosophy is, we will put our best side out every

:22:33. > :22:39.time we can. They do not lose any strength. We are closing the vote,

:22:40. > :22:42.it is closed, we will tell you in a moment who you think is going to win

:22:43. > :22:47.this game, Saint Helens or Leeds Rhinos.

:22:48. > :22:53.We talked about the experience of Leeds Rhinos, the senior Saint

:22:54. > :22:58.Helens, Jon Wilkin, they will be crucial this afternoon. Without a

:22:59. > :23:05.doubt, that is why Nathan Brown has put Jon Wilkin there. We talk about

:23:06. > :23:11.game sense, knowing what to do. We have not heard from either coach, so

:23:12. > :23:17.let's rectify that. This is a huge game. You take your

:23:18. > :23:22.hat off for a while and appreciate what is at stake today, and the

:23:23. > :23:27.spectacle on show. I am looking forward to it. Putting my Leeds

:23:28. > :23:33.Rhinos hat back on, we are up against a very good team, so we will

:23:34. > :23:38.need to be very good. You had a flying start, but you have had

:23:39. > :23:44.back-to-back defeats. Wigan are a good side. The first half was quite

:23:45. > :23:47.a good game of football, but they were a touch better than us and

:23:48. > :23:54.deserved the victory. The witness game, we put a very different team

:23:55. > :23:56.out, for obvious reasons. We got a lot of positives, some of the

:23:57. > :24:02.younger players performed really well. It has got the squad in good

:24:03. > :24:06.stead. A lot of the players have talked about the Challenge Cup,

:24:07. > :24:15.about this generation picking up the Challenge Cup, how conscious are you

:24:16. > :24:18.of that? Conscious. The whole club and team would have a problem if we

:24:19. > :24:22.kept getting beaten in the first round. But the fact that we have got

:24:23. > :24:27.through to quite a few finals and not quite got there, while it is

:24:28. > :24:33.disappointing and makes a couple of headlines, too much gets made of it.

:24:34. > :24:38.Each year, you start again, and your desire is to lift all of the

:24:39. > :24:43.trophies. You would say that Tommy Makinson would score at some point,

:24:44. > :24:51.how please tidy with him? He has done really well. The guys today

:24:52. > :24:59.that they are up against have good CDs. They have good experience, they

:25:00. > :25:03.have won a key Grand Finals and been to Wembley, and that is the

:25:04. > :25:08.challenge, to play well and take trophies, and then hopefully move

:25:09. > :25:13.into representative football. Today will be a good challenge for him. He

:25:14. > :25:18.is Super League's hottest property, Tom Makinson.

:25:19. > :25:23.He is trying to deflect some of the attention he is getting. Is it

:25:24. > :25:27.understandable from the couch, trying to deflect the attention a

:25:28. > :25:33.bit? He will be conscious of the other blokes in the team. The focus

:25:34. > :25:39.is on his finishing, the way he puts the ball down. There is no doubt

:25:40. > :25:43.that some of those finishes are required.

:25:44. > :25:51.They are two of the best wingers in the competition. Paul is a bit more

:25:52. > :26:05.straightforward. -- Ryan Hall is a bit more straightforward. They are

:26:06. > :26:09.not worried about carrying the ball. There is very little between them in

:26:10. > :26:17.tries. Ryan Hall has the slight edge. There is huge attention on Tom

:26:18. > :26:25.Makinson's scoring. You have got rugby players' hands.

:26:26. > :26:33.If he was at Wigan, Sean Wade would not allow him to do that. How does

:26:34. > :26:34.he hold the ball? Do you think it is fair enough that he scores like

:26:35. > :26:43.that? It is an exceptional talent, he is

:26:44. > :26:48.scoring tries and not making errors. You have got to have massive hands,

:26:49. > :26:53.like myself. As you spread your fingers, your thumb wrapped around

:26:54. > :27:01.the ball, it is a fundamental part of the game. Sometimes, it goes

:27:02. > :27:07.overseen. It enables a big bloke like him to turn around, hold people

:27:08. > :27:10.off with the other hand and make a selective off-load. Coaches will

:27:11. > :27:15.encourage the correct grip on the ball, it is all about your fingers

:27:16. > :27:18.and thumb, rather than the size of your hand. The type of finishing he

:27:19. > :27:25.is coming up with, you have to put the ball back, you could not do that

:27:26. > :27:32.with a conventional grip. When he is not scoring in that situation... The

:27:33. > :27:41.attention will be read here drops one. Will teams look to target

:27:42. > :27:46.that? It's so difficult. He is diving through the air, so he does

:27:47. > :27:51.not get pushed into touch. He is scoring the try every time. We are

:27:52. > :27:55.moments away from kick-off, they sent Helens team going the tunnel.

:27:56. > :27:58.The Leeds Rhinos are holding back slightly. You have been voting on

:27:59. > :28:17.who you think will win this match. This is it, the Challenge Cup fifth

:28:18. > :28:18.round, a quarterfinal place awaits, will it be Leeds Rhinos or Saint

:28:19. > :28:46.Helens? That is the prize that one of the

:28:47. > :28:54.site will be hoping to lift when we go to Wembley in August. Only one of

:28:55. > :28:57.them will go through, as Kevin Sinfield and Jon Wilkin get ready to

:28:58. > :29:00.lead their side out. This is Leeds Rhinos against St Helens in the

:29:01. > :29:10.Challenge Cup fifth round. There is no doubting the sense of

:29:11. > :29:16.occasion here. No doubting the immense pedigree of both of these

:29:17. > :29:20.sides as they take to the field. No doubting the history of this

:29:21. > :29:26.wonderful competition, represented by that particular trophy, the only

:29:27. > :29:32.question is, will this match measure up to the enormous expectations? We

:29:33. > :29:38.hope so. If it does, it will be an absolute cracker here today between

:29:39. > :29:48.the two form teams of the Super League, 2014, far this year. We

:29:49. > :29:54.might hear a growl from the likes of Wigan, who would suggest they are

:29:55. > :29:59.there as well! No shortage of experience for Leeds Rhinos, the

:30:00. > :30:02.front row has a combine age of 103. But no shortage of youthful

:30:03. > :30:09.razzle-dazzle in the outside backs as well. As we have been hearing. St

:30:10. > :30:14.Helens rested a queue for the Easter Monday game against witness, but

:30:15. > :30:19.back, Jonny Lomax, Luke Walsh, Kyle a more and James Roby. Jon Wilkin

:30:20. > :30:33.partnering Luke Walsh in the halves. Nathan Brown and Keiron Cunningham

:30:34. > :30:39.have done so much, and Richard Silverwood is our referee today. He

:30:40. > :30:46.has got plenty of Challenge Cup the Pedigree -- pedigree with three

:30:47. > :30:50.finals in his experience. Headingley is sparkling on a sunny Saturday

:30:51. > :30:57.afternoon. These are two teams who are capable of matching the

:30:58. > :31:01.elements, Sinfield with a low hard drive, and our first return. Saint

:31:02. > :31:08.Helens against Castleford, they did it again. Saint Helens against

:31:09. > :31:18.Wigan, first drive, McCarthy-Scarsbrook. Alex Walmsley

:31:19. > :31:23.lost the ball. Three games, Saint Helens have knock-on with their

:31:24. > :31:28.first touch of the ball. They haven't started well in most games,

:31:29. > :31:33.but if you give Leeds the advantage early on, it will be difficult to

:31:34. > :31:42.come back, but this game has all the ingredients of being an absolute

:31:43. > :31:47.classic. They have given Leeds this early advantage. Can they take it?

:31:48. > :32:10.Here comes 36-year-old Jamie Peacock to challenge.

:32:11. > :32:17.A good tackle from Walsh. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook is playing in

:32:18. > :32:23.the back row as well, hoping with the defence. Saint Helens have asked

:32:24. > :32:29.the question, five tackles so far. What about number six? Here comes

:32:30. > :32:47.the chase. Lomax has taken it on the fall. The restart gains his team ten

:32:48. > :32:53.metres. I think with this side, both these sides, there is so much

:32:54. > :32:55.attack. Whoever creates opportunities will win. Defence is

:32:56. > :33:07.good on both sides. McCarthy-Scarsbrook with a bruising

:33:08. > :33:12.effort and a good off-load. Terrific play from the Londoner. The Leeds

:33:13. > :33:38.defence has been so solid. It will be Leeds to get the

:33:39. > :33:45.handover. Peacock Court and elbow right on the chin and he is walking

:33:46. > :33:50.back rather slowly. If he feels there has been a bit of shenanigans,

:33:51. > :33:55.he will get his own back quite legitimately. Three big games

:33:56. > :33:59.recently, they have knock-on in the very first place. Is that a fluke,

:34:00. > :34:03.or is there something going wrong with the psychology? It is a fluke,

:34:04. > :34:08.something that we magnify and focus on. They are at the right end of the

:34:09. > :34:12.field now, and picking up on something that Jonathan mentioned,

:34:13. > :34:17.it is what you do with the ball against Leeds, not how much ball you

:34:18. > :34:30.get. Saint Helens have to play with a two shots to have a chance of

:34:31. > :34:39.beating this team. A search by Saint Helens on the way through. He jumped

:34:40. > :34:49.and he touched. We will have to hear from the video referee. Not from

:34:50. > :34:58.there. It is difficult to say from that angle. Josh Jones was the man,

:34:59. > :35:03.and his -- he has given this as a dropper underneath the sticks. It is

:35:04. > :35:06.whether you play the ball intentionally. What the referee has

:35:07. > :35:10.adjudicated there is that because he has jumped off the ground and

:35:11. > :35:11.challenged the ball, the fact it had hit him, he is adjudicated to have

:35:12. > :35:44.played the ball. Leeds are less than ten yards away.

:35:45. > :35:51.Sinfield operating from dummy half. They have got the overlap there. He

:35:52. > :35:59.has got the ball down. The referee is just checking with the touch

:36:00. > :36:06.judge. He is going to ask about the obstruction. For the first time, we

:36:07. > :36:10.hear from our video referee. We are looking at the obstruction to see if

:36:11. > :36:15.the man behind the ball runs by one of his own players, and on those

:36:16. > :36:19.occasions, the ball is passed before that happens, and the leader makes

:36:20. > :36:25.space. I am happy with that, if we can just now go to the grounding.

:36:26. > :36:29.I'm happy there is no obstruction. Just making sure that the player

:36:30. > :36:41.ground the ball cleanly. From that angle, it looks like he

:36:42. > :36:46.does and the ball is on that hand. If we slow this down, please... Yes.

:36:47. > :36:59.I am happy with that. That is a try. Here is the decision, confirmed to

:37:00. > :37:05.the Headingley crowd. Leeds have the opening try of the day. It was

:37:06. > :37:18.scored by Zac Hardaker. It was well created as well.

:37:19. > :37:28.Sinfield now to add the extras in relation to what is a great start to

:37:29. > :37:31.Leeds. I don't think Nathan Brown will be happy with the defence

:37:32. > :37:35.there. The dummy runners came through early and they could have

:37:36. > :37:41.shifted out wide. An easy finish for a classy player like Zac Hardaker.

:37:42. > :37:53.Kevin Sinfield steadying his concentration, putting out all the

:37:54. > :38:00.noise. Doing that job very well. A beautiful cake from Kevin Sinfield.

:38:01. > :38:09.Leeds are now leading the game by 6-0. Here is the decision. That is a

:38:10. > :38:12.tough call. I don't even think he touched it. A tough call for Saint

:38:13. > :38:18.Helens, but he was in a good position, the referee. A good finish

:38:19. > :38:21.from Zac Hardaker. An unconventional grip on the ball, but he manages to

:38:22. > :38:30.get it down, clearly finishing the play. Restart, some backpedalling

:38:31. > :38:32.required, Briscoe is the kind of winger that has the power to burst

:38:33. > :38:38.out of the position on that occasion.

:38:39. > :38:45.He gets their set rolling so well. Briscoe, we don't often see him in

:38:46. > :38:49.that kind of position, but he finds his front and he gets to play the

:38:50. > :38:55.ball quickly and get the lead set rolling.

:38:56. > :39:04.Kyle Amor was at Leeds early in his career. He was not a playing member,

:39:05. > :39:11.but on the fringes before he went to Wakefield, and now he is at Saint

:39:12. > :39:19.Helens. A great set by Leeds. A good kick-off by Saint Helens. The choice

:39:20. > :39:27.of the up and under put pressure on Jonny Lomax. If you look at Leeds,

:39:28. > :39:34.they have got Sinfield, McGuire and Rob Burrow as a kicking game. You

:39:35. > :39:40.have to have options, and Jon Wilkin does that for Saints. Format years

:39:41. > :39:50.ago in a cup tie between these teams, a makeshift stand-off, Jon

:39:51. > :39:57.Wilkin when man of the match. He was outstanding. He has since three --

:39:58. > :40:05.he has history. Saint Helens have the advantage.

:40:06. > :40:10.He had so much time on that, because it was a poor kick, he just took his

:40:11. > :40:27.eye off it. This is a try, just watch. The young

:40:28. > :40:35.centre just stepped inside and takes the dummy run. That is why the gap

:40:36. > :40:40.opened up for the try scorer Zac Hardaker. They were short of

:40:41. > :40:45.defensive numbers as well. That is what you have to do. If everyone

:40:46. > :40:52.goes in, you all have to go at -- in. You all go together. If one goes

:40:53. > :41:24.in and one goes out, the gap opens up.

:41:25. > :41:28.The tackle is gone, the momentum is lost. Jon Wilkin is spinning it

:41:29. > :41:40.hard. They have to put more pressure on

:41:41. > :41:47.after the kick is done. As we saw before the match, this back three is

:41:48. > :42:02.brilliant in counterattacking on the back kick. A tight defence for

:42:03. > :42:09.Leeds. They have conceded 82 in ten Super League games. The nearest

:42:10. > :42:18.other team, Wigan, have conceded nearly twice as many points.

:42:19. > :42:30.Worrying signs. Three on two, and the pass goes low. Very dangerous.

:42:31. > :42:35.If the pass goes to hand, it is a score. They created a three on two

:42:36. > :42:42.with the break from Ablett in the middle of the field. The challenge

:42:43. > :42:44.for Saints is the way that leads are defending, they have to throw more

:42:45. > :42:56.at Leeds. The kick has got to be precise. You

:42:57. > :42:59.are not going to get many opportunities against this Leeds

:43:00. > :43:25.defence. You have to try to get something out of it.

:43:26. > :43:29.Saint Helens are looking to get something going here, but the Leeds

:43:30. > :43:48.defence is very solid. Soliola made the advantage running

:43:49. > :43:50.defence. The chase has but to be better. It has got to compete for

:43:51. > :44:09.that ball. Jamie Peacock is taking a deep

:44:10. > :44:18.breath on the right-hand side. It goes to Rob Burrow. He is the man

:44:19. > :44:21.who has picked it up again. When momentum and look is with you, you

:44:22. > :44:31.have to write the deflection off a kick.

:44:32. > :44:49.Joel Moon, magic in his hands at times, Joel Moon.

:44:50. > :44:59.Soliola is just reaching out and not quite getting it.

:45:00. > :45:05.They have a decent position here. 18 metres, plenty of fields to play

:45:06. > :45:14.with on the right-hand side for McGuire to put this kick in.

:45:15. > :45:21.Danny McGuire will not be happy with that kick. You have got to put hang

:45:22. > :45:28.time on it for the players to get under it. They are asking questions

:45:29. > :45:35.of the St Helens defence, when you have got Greg Richards -- Mark

:45:36. > :45:41.Percival and Adam Swift, they are not communicating well, and Leeds

:45:42. > :45:42.Rhinos have spotted that. It is a strategy of the said Helen 's

:45:43. > :45:58.defence. Despite the despairing lunge, Adam

:45:59. > :46:06.Swift will score. St Helens back in it again. It is a great ball, a good

:46:07. > :46:13.angle. Mark Percival and Adam Swift are brilliant in attack. Great

:46:14. > :46:17.defence by Leeds Rhinos. This guy showed how quick he was by running

:46:18. > :46:22.away from Kallum Watkins. A brilliant response from St Helens.

:46:23. > :46:29.Just what the game needed. It is a fraction in the middle of the field.

:46:30. > :46:36.A great ball from Sia Soliola. All it needs is Adam Swift to get on the

:46:37. > :46:43.end of it. Kallum Watkins at the angle on him, I thought. A lovely

:46:44. > :46:50.pass. Good finish, as well, this guy can run a bit. The fellow on the

:46:51. > :46:55.other wing has been getting a lot of the accolades this year, because he

:46:56. > :47:00.has scored some miraculous tries, Tom Makinson, but Adam Swift keeps

:47:01. > :47:07.on producing, his 26th appearance, 25 tries. The two tries scored

:47:08. > :47:13.already, clever distribution. One little mistake, by stepping in, it

:47:14. > :47:16.was Annie Maguire in that instance, they hit the whole, and they make

:47:17. > :47:29.you pay. Luke Walsh has been a revelation

:47:30. > :47:36.since his signing from Penrith, just what St Helens needed is the common

:47:37. > :47:47.consensus. His kicking is pretty good. As he has just proven. It is

:47:48. > :47:55.all square again. A lovely kick. We have got the day for it. The pass

:47:56. > :48:01.from Sia Soliola is a peach. He sees him on the fly, not many back

:48:02. > :48:14.rosewood managed to handle that. Game on.

:48:15. > :48:18.He has got his hands out in front of him a lot of them carry the ball in

:48:19. > :48:38.their chest. They are like a couple of cavemen,

:48:39. > :48:39.Alex Walmsley and Kyle Amor. I bet you would not say that to them on

:48:40. > :48:53.the sideline! Kyle and more dressed up as a tramp

:48:54. > :48:59.last year, people thought he was a tramp, they would not let him into

:49:00. > :49:07.various establishments! So convincing is that beard! Leeds

:49:08. > :49:11.Rhinos looking to re-establish a bit of momentum. They are just edging

:49:12. > :49:28.the territory. Great weather, good game.

:49:29. > :49:32.St Helens are warming to this challenge, their line speed has got

:49:33. > :49:59.better. The winger and the fullback were

:50:00. > :50:06.just in discussion when the ball was in midair. Absolutely right, Adam

:50:07. > :50:14.Swift and Jonny Lomax looked at each other. It is up to Mark Percival to

:50:15. > :50:18.clean it up, he does really well. You have got to have good

:50:19. > :50:24.communication. You know the Leeds Rhinos tactics, every time they

:50:25. > :50:25.kick, they will put hang time on it and cause disruption in the St

:50:26. > :51:08.Helens defence. It was good defence initially by

:51:09. > :51:37.Jordan Turner, but you have got to nail him.

:51:38. > :51:45.The referee might have to give the try here. As cruel as it may be.

:51:46. > :51:51.Luke Walsh was injured as he picked it up, but Danny McGuire put it

:51:52. > :52:12.down. Video referee required. Let's hear from the video referee.

:52:13. > :52:23.On the kick, everybody is onside. We need to then see if there is a

:52:24. > :52:30.knock-on, we need a close and, if possible, to seek a St Helens

:52:31. > :52:39.knock-on. That is off his feet, that is fine, that is OK. That is the

:52:40. > :52:46.tackle completed. We need to jog it on from here. We cannot give a try

:52:47. > :52:50.because a tackle has been completed, so the ball is therefore not back in

:52:51. > :52:56.play. Could I have a closer and to see how the ball comes out? We

:52:57. > :53:03.cannot give a try, because the play stopped, the ball is dead. There is

:53:04. > :53:10.no knock there at that point. That is play on. The tackle is

:53:11. > :53:20.completed. Now, he is injured. It will have to be a scrum down to stop

:53:21. > :53:30.no try. A scrum down. We cannot play on. I do not think anybody will be

:53:31. > :53:36.surprised. The greater concern was the damage

:53:37. > :53:42.done to Luke Walsh. His right elbow. He only has it strapped up. For our

:53:43. > :53:47.viewers, not clear with the rules, the tackle has been deemed to be

:53:48. > :53:53.complete, so the ball is not in play, so it is a scrum down. Danny

:53:54. > :54:00.McGuire picks the ball up when Luke Walsh gets injured. It is worrying

:54:01. > :54:07.for St Helens when your main organiser, ballplayer, kicker is

:54:08. > :54:11.carrying an injury to the elbow. He does not look confident about it

:54:12. > :54:22.now. If you are a Leeds Rhinos player, you relate his right arm.

:54:23. > :54:28.Lance Hohaia would have been an option off the bench, but he is not

:54:29. > :54:32.there. Paul Wellens is an option off the bench. Jonny Lomax can play in

:54:33. > :55:17.the heart as well. Luke Walsh is defending in the right

:55:18. > :55:20.centre position, so Leeds Rhinos have to look for him in the

:55:21. > :55:26.defensive line, test the right elbow. Tactically, St Helens are

:55:27. > :55:32.putting the ball high. They are watching footage of what Zak

:55:33. > :55:39.Hardaker and Ryan Hall and Tom Briscoe can do on the run. So, they

:55:40. > :55:44.are going really high, so it is a standing start for the captains, and

:55:45. > :55:46.they can handle them defensively. The one thing they cannot do is kick

:55:47. > :55:58.directly to them. The South stand are proclaiming the

:55:59. > :56:08.virtues of Ryan Hall, the winger whose determination to vote that

:56:09. > :56:16.penalty. A very wide centre field position from the first tackle. If

:56:17. > :56:34.there were questions about Luke Walsh, he bravely hung on there.

:56:35. > :56:42.That is a great tackle by Mark Percival, I thought he had done him

:56:43. > :56:47.then. They cannot stand off, St Helens are standing off, they may be

:56:48. > :56:54.giving Leeds centres and outside backs too much respect, they have to

:56:55. > :56:58.close the space down a little bit. Brian McDermott, the coach here, he

:56:59. > :57:00.is a two-time Challenge Cup winner, both with Bradford, and a former

:57:01. > :57:08.rate Britain International. Later, join us on the red button

:57:09. > :57:34.forum. A good run. Some of these blokes,

:57:35. > :57:51.like two giant stacks locking up and crashing into each other.

:57:52. > :57:55.It was taken well by Tom Briscoe, who launches at the other way. They

:57:56. > :58:08.have kept it alive. He was the lid into. We had

:58:09. > :58:18.everything, footwork from Rob Burrow, and then, boom. The loose

:58:19. > :58:23.kick, and you have got to switch on, because Tom Briscoe has got the

:58:24. > :58:29.legs. I would not mind seeing Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook on Strickler

:58:30. > :58:37.come dancing! This is a great game so far, it has got it all. This is a

:58:38. > :58:39.proper cup tie. To proper team is, two teams in their pomp at this

:58:40. > :59:03.stage of the season. It is a drop-out underneath the

:59:04. > :59:07.sticks. The high kick is causing huge problems for the St Helens

:59:08. > :59:13.defence, there is nobody dictating or control in that area. Louie

:59:14. > :59:20.McCarthy-Scarsbrook tried to take an offensive player and catch it. But

:59:21. > :59:25.there was no catcher. We have some news from the touchline. They are

:59:26. > :59:27.doing running repairs on Luke Walsh, he twisted his elbow, that is what

:59:28. > :00:18.is causing the problem. There does not seem to be a lot of

:00:19. > :00:28.wind there, but if anything, it is certainly favouring Leeds in the

:00:29. > :00:38.first half. Some of these challenges look like wild West shoot outs. It

:00:39. > :00:42.is judged to perfection in terms of the ball bouncing just the right

:00:43. > :00:43.side of the touchline. I think he was really pleased it bounced this

:00:44. > :00:56.side of the try-line! Headingley looks good. Full marks to

:00:57. > :01:00.Brian Golding, the groundsman here, he was working here until 1:30am and

:01:01. > :01:07.slept in the stadium overnight and got up at 6am this morning, and his

:01:08. > :01:14.team, and the stadium looks lovely. It is a great place to play. It is a

:01:15. > :01:19.great base to come today. A lot of teams get it wrong. Coming here and

:01:20. > :01:25.playing here is absolutely fabulous. If you can engender that spirit and

:01:26. > :01:36.enjoy the graphs, enjoyed a crowd doing to you, always things --

:01:37. > :02:34.booing you, all those things. I think that was going out anyway.

:02:35. > :02:37.They had enough defenders there to close the space. They have got to

:02:38. > :02:57.come at a bit faster on the left-hand side defensively.

:02:58. > :03:09.Young Greg Richards, 18 years old. Literally half the age of Jamie

:03:10. > :03:19.Peacock! Jon Wilkin saw peacock there have a go at him.

:03:20. > :03:25.When Leeds that the high kicks up, everyone is under it and competing

:03:26. > :03:30.for it. Things haven't managed that yet. I think they have not had a

:03:31. > :03:35.clean shot on the ball, and the coach will be more concerned about

:03:36. > :03:40.giving the Leeds back three a running opportunity. If you can't

:03:41. > :04:03.get a clean catch, don't compete. Forward pass. Illegal. The fifth or

:04:04. > :04:09.sixth are from Leeds. It won't stop them playing. Their ball movement

:04:10. > :04:13.this year has been exceptional. Saints are similar. It is about what

:04:14. > :04:16.you do with your possession rather than how much possession you get.

:04:17. > :04:27.Both of these are good footballing teams. Enough defenders there, just

:04:28. > :04:28.a ensure of what each other are doing at the moment. They have to

:04:29. > :04:57.communicate on the left-hand side. Leeds need to find their mark, and

:04:58. > :05:13.they have done. This is the kind of sets that Saints

:05:14. > :05:18.want to put together. They came back with another pass play that is

:05:19. > :05:33.asking a lot of questions of this Leeds team. The Leeds defenders are

:05:34. > :05:37.closing in quickly, four of them. Because the Leeds defence is so

:05:38. > :05:40.difficult to break down, that is why it is important on the last tackle

:05:41. > :05:47.to make sure that you try to get something from that kick, because

:05:48. > :05:50.the defence is so solid. Ryan Hall is doing a job today. He is a

:05:51. > :06:11.runaway truck today. Peacock brushes off Greg Richards

:06:12. > :06:18.and says, there you are, younger man, that is what it means to play

:06:19. > :06:27.rugby! A few half breaks, a few tackles falling off.

:06:28. > :06:34.That is not a bad kick. That is where Saint Helens have a start. The

:06:35. > :06:47.players are struggling to get behind and play the ball.

:06:48. > :07:19.Nine minutes of the first half remaining.

:07:20. > :07:27.Zac Hardaker looks for gaps in the line but doesn't find any way. Great

:07:28. > :07:32.athleticism from Kallum Watkins. I love those fights. I don't literally

:07:33. > :07:41.mean fights, but when they wrestle. They are like two stags going at

:07:42. > :07:45.each other. What is it with you and stags? I was watching National

:07:46. > :08:14.Geographic last night! What are you going on about? I am

:08:15. > :08:18.busy watching the game. He is saying that I am talking about stags too

:08:19. > :08:23.much. He is having a pop at me because I keep mentioning them.

:08:24. > :08:33.Don't underestimate the power of the metaphor. This week was

:08:34. > :08:45.Shakespeare's birthday. Metaphor comes to the fore.

:08:46. > :09:03.Soliola has been a testing presence.

:09:04. > :09:09.Certain players in certain teams go unnoticed for a couple of seasons

:09:10. > :09:14.and then suddenly everybody starts to realise how hard they work and

:09:15. > :09:19.what a great job they do. Here comes a Soliola. Soliola has ripped

:09:20. > :09:34.through! Here they come again. A great

:09:35. > :09:45.tackle. Had to make it, picked him out, nailed him.

:09:46. > :09:55.Ryan Hall again. He made a decision, had to make that tackle, great play

:09:56. > :10:15.by Ryan Hall once again. The minute you tight -- take your

:10:16. > :10:27.eye off anything, somebody makes a break. Soliola just made a break.

:10:28. > :10:38.Don't take your eyes off this one. The point I was making before, Josh

:10:39. > :11:04.Jones, he is that kind of player. He is a real engine.

:11:05. > :11:16.The referee says he has lost it here, not stolen, lost it.

:11:17. > :11:25.He was being dragged into touch. A big mistake. Hit the ground, he did

:11:26. > :11:29.not have to throw that in. He did not have to throw that pass. He

:11:30. > :11:38.panicked and now a big opportunity, good field position for Leeds. Only

:11:39. > :11:52.a few minutes remaining. That has gone quickly.

:11:53. > :12:04.Terrific! Terrific I Ryan Hall. Zac Hardaker will finish as a result.

:12:05. > :12:10.Hats off to Ryan Hall again. Zac Hardaker is in for his second. It is

:12:11. > :12:13.the winger what made it. It was the winger he made a mistake and a

:12:14. > :12:27.winger who makes it. You cannot fall off tackles with

:12:28. > :12:38.this Leeds side. Straight from the scrum again. Hardaker skips come a

:12:39. > :12:41.great pass from noon, and Ryan Hall beats two people. Hardaker is

:12:42. > :12:51.backing up his own play from the inside after noon. -- Moon. Jones

:12:52. > :13:05.misses the tackle, which was a crucial one. He saw the tackle

:13:06. > :13:12.coming and he rode, Josh Jones. Unnecessary play by Tom Makinson. He

:13:13. > :13:17.did not have to panic, just to hold on to it. They should have been up

:13:18. > :13:23.in the Leeds half. They put themselves under pressure just

:13:24. > :13:27.before half-time. Kevin Sinfield lusty stick the knife into Saint

:13:28. > :13:29.Helens. This is the 18th consecutive match against Saint Helens in which

:13:30. > :13:35.he has scored against them. This will be his second goal, if he

:13:36. > :13:52.puts it over. That is good. That is good. It is

:13:53. > :14:07.two out of two for Kevin Sinfield. It is a 12-6 advantage to Leeds. A

:14:08. > :14:11.very good spin and finish by Hardaker. Ryan Hall has been the

:14:12. > :14:15.difference between the two teams. I think he has. He is like an extra

:14:16. > :14:18.forward. He carries the ball so well. He comes up with tackles. He

:14:19. > :15:08.has made a difference. 90 seconds under in list first

:15:09. > :15:11.half. Saints have got to concentrate, because Leeds will try

:15:12. > :15:20.to get something before half-time again.

:15:21. > :15:56.This will go up, last one. Jordan Turner catches safely enough.

:15:57. > :16:18.Big hits going in. Greg Richards is finding it a tough afternoon.

:16:19. > :16:24.A lack of communication between the kicker and the chase, the chase was

:16:25. > :16:30.not good. It was easy to Tom Briscoe. The hooter sounds, the

:16:31. > :16:39.referee will blow his whistle. It has been a pretty good first half

:16:40. > :16:42.between two top degree sides. The two tries from Zak Hardaker have

:16:43. > :16:48.made the difference, Leeds Rhinos leading at half-time.

:16:49. > :16:55.What was the difference in the first half? Leeds Rhinos played well, we

:16:56. > :17:03.did not have the best of starts, but we clawed our way back in. Kevin, a

:17:04. > :17:11.sigh of relief to have your noses in front? A little bit, quite icky

:17:12. > :17:16.errors, characteristic of us of light. St Helens have been similar.

:17:17. > :17:17.Whoever has a good start to the second half will go on and win, I

:17:18. > :17:27.think. Kevin Sinfield saying they had made

:17:28. > :17:41.some errors, but they have dominated the possession. And territory.

:17:42. > :17:50.And yet the gap between them is just the six points. I do not know how St

:17:51. > :17:55.Helens are still in it. It has taken a lot of energy out of them. A poor

:17:56. > :18:00.start to the game, but Leeds Rhinos are playing pretty well. Nathan

:18:01. > :18:05.Brown can take comfort from the fact there is only six points difference.

:18:06. > :18:10.Yes, he would have wanted to see a great start from his team. They

:18:11. > :18:16.spilled the ball. Error after error. In that whole first half, they only

:18:17. > :18:20.had one ball in the opposition 22. That shows the difference between

:18:21. > :18:27.the teams. You have both mentioned the start, and Nathan Brown said,

:18:28. > :18:29.our stocks are a big issue. Our first contribution is always an

:18:30. > :18:37.error. This is the third game on the trot they have done this. It is very

:18:38. > :18:42.disappointing. This is where you need the biggest start, you want to

:18:43. > :18:45.get on the front foot. It is thinking about the collision, where

:18:46. > :18:52.to run. Kylie Leuluai has fallen over. It is a lack of concentration,

:18:53. > :19:00.you need to be smarter. Once you start making errors, will that be in

:19:01. > :19:03.the minds of the players? In this game, there is a lot of emotional

:19:04. > :19:09.energy anyway, it is the Challenge Cup, you only have one chance, so

:19:10. > :19:16.you are already tense. That ever burned a lot of juice out of you.

:19:17. > :19:21.Within the first set, you are tired, and that can compound the error is,

:19:22. > :19:26.it makes the opening five or ten minutes very difficult. Zak Hardaker

:19:27. > :19:34.has got both tries for Leeds Rhinos, but St Helens have had a

:19:35. > :19:39.hand in both. Rob borrowed -- Rob Burrow goes for the hammer it skims

:19:40. > :19:50.the back of his head. It is on the key, but because he leads to ground,

:19:51. > :19:57.he is making a play. You can see here, Mark Percival has to make a

:19:58. > :20:04.decision. He comes in on Mitch Achurch and allows a free one. The

:20:05. > :20:13.momentum gets him over the try-line. That is the difference between the

:20:14. > :20:16.teams. Two errors back-to-back. If Tom Makinson had held onto that, it

:20:17. > :20:22.could have been a different story. Yes, it would have been their

:20:23. > :20:29.penalty. Ryan Hall is killing it, this game, so far. Zak Hardaker is

:20:30. > :20:36.always in the right position. As he skips across the field as well, they

:20:37. > :20:39.are playing with confidence. Ryan Hall beats four tacklers, and he has

:20:40. > :20:44.the presence of mind to off-load the ball back into the middle, where Zak

:20:45. > :20:48.Hardaker is pushing up. The back three have been decent for Leeds

:20:49. > :20:53.Rhinos. Both defensively and offensively. If you give Ryan Hall

:20:54. > :20:58.the ball, he will cause the opposition problems. Ryan Hall is a

:20:59. > :21:03.big man. It is like having a front row on your wing that can run the

:21:04. > :21:09.100 in under ten seconds. He has got great balance. Josh Jones is a big

:21:10. > :21:18.bloke as well. He has finished on his front. Defensively, he makes the

:21:19. > :21:26.right decisions. As a winger, he had to get to him. Is it like tackling a

:21:27. > :21:34.forward? It is tackling a forward. He is huge. Look at his biceps! He

:21:35. > :21:39.knew the camera was on him. He is a smart bloke, he makes the right

:21:40. > :21:44.decisions, he knows what he is doing, he calls for the kick, and he

:21:45. > :21:48.does the small things right. Leeds Rhinos have been impressive

:21:49. > :21:52.defensively, so St Helens need to take any opportunity they have been

:21:53. > :21:57.getting. The Adam Swift try was virtually their first opportunity.

:21:58. > :22:00.Leeds Rhinos are giving them absolutely nothing, but they will

:22:01. > :22:08.take any opportunities. Danny McGuire comes in on Sia Soliola,

:22:09. > :22:11.leaving Mark Percival in space. Adam Swift has to leave the ground to

:22:12. > :22:16.keep the ball behind him, which shows his speed. Wingers want the

:22:17. > :22:21.ball in front of them so they can maintain the cadence of their run.

:22:22. > :22:26.But he still has the ability, and he is swift enough to get to the

:22:27. > :22:30.try-line. I am not sure whether I will forgive that pun! But if you

:22:31. > :22:36.get it slightly behind you, it checks your momentum. Yes, if you

:22:37. > :22:42.stayed down there, you have to wrench back, so just leave the

:22:43. > :22:50.ground, it gives you a second in the egg, but you have to kick off again.

:22:51. > :22:59.He was quick enough to get to the try-line. You are fighting the pun!

:23:00. > :23:04.We spoke pre-match about the experience of Leeds Rhinos. There is

:23:05. > :23:11.a lack of communication as well for St Helens. This is a worrying thing.

:23:12. > :23:17.He needs to take control of what is happening. The chase is not

:23:18. > :23:20.brilliant. But it is all staggered. They St Helens players are not

:23:21. > :23:26.talking to each other, nobody is taking control, and you have to be

:23:27. > :23:30.confident in the players around you. People are blaming each other

:23:31. > :23:35.when somebody needs to grab hold of them. Nothing drives a forward pack

:23:36. > :23:40.more crazy than the ball not being taken. Their job is to run into the

:23:41. > :23:46.teeth of the opposition, the backs should make the ball secure. What

:23:47. > :23:49.the boys said in, tree, Leeds Rhinos might be more comfortable under the

:23:50. > :23:54.high ball because St Helens are allowing them to take it. They do

:23:55. > :23:59.not want to challenge it and leave themselves exposed. Is that fair? It

:24:00. > :24:04.is down to the kick itself, but if you are not winning the energy

:24:05. > :24:08.battle in the first instance by dropping the ball in the first set,

:24:09. > :24:14.it makes it hard to kick chase as well. Leeds Rhinos are very

:24:15. > :24:18.professional. Let's look at the contrast in Zak Hardaker and Jonny

:24:19. > :24:23.Lomax. We looked at them as a head-to-head at the start.

:24:24. > :24:31.This has been the best battle of the game. Jonny Lomax slightly behind.

:24:32. > :24:33.It is off the back of the tries, but also the lack of communication and

:24:34. > :24:43.the drop balls at the back. Zak Hardaker is getting over the top

:24:44. > :24:48.because he has scored two tries, but he is getting time and space to play

:24:49. > :24:53.in. The Leeds Rhinos pack are busting up the St Helens defensive

:24:54. > :24:59.line. Everything that is coming at Jonny Lomax, he has players in his

:25:00. > :25:02.face. On the opposite side, Zak Hardaker has the space, he has got

:25:03. > :25:08.time to make sure that he can get some space. That gives you

:25:09. > :25:15.confidence. They need to limit Zak Hardaker's space? Definitely. When

:25:16. > :25:21.it gets out into space, that is probably his only error. This pass

:25:22. > :25:31.on the outside, through the middle, imposition. This is his second try

:25:32. > :25:38.again. That is what a fullback is supposed to do, release and follow.

:25:39. > :25:46.80% of their tries, of the backing of somebody else's good work. The

:25:47. > :25:51.scoreline backs up what was being said on the Twitter vote before the

:25:52. > :25:57.game. 64% of you thought that Leeds Rhinos would win. We want your views

:25:58. > :26:04.now. We will be on the red button from

:26:05. > :26:42.4:30pm until 5pm. If what you have seen this afternoon

:26:43. > :26:44.has made you want to get involved in rugby league at any level, go to the

:26:45. > :26:58.BBC website. The second half is moment away. The

:26:59. > :27:05.last time Leeds Rhinos won the Challenge Cup was in 1999, they have

:27:06. > :27:13.been in six finals since, we look back at one of their close shaves.

:27:14. > :27:23.2003, with Wembley being rebuilt, the fourth Challenge Cup final to be

:27:24. > :27:26.played at a rugby union ground took place at the Millennium Stadium in

:27:27. > :27:34.Cardiff between the Bradford Bulls and Leeds Rhinos. Bradford leaking

:27:35. > :27:38.out a narrow victory, 22-20, but how they were nearly beaten in that

:27:39. > :27:43.final nine or ten minutes, but for the vigorous defence of the Bradford

:27:44. > :27:47.Bulls. With seven minutes to play, there were only two points the

:27:48. > :27:54.difference. Leeds were offered a penalty. Kevin Sinfield had the

:27:55. > :27:59.choice, go for goal and make a draw. I am sure he would have kicked the

:28:00. > :28:05.goal. Or, more ambitious, seven minutes to play, attacking on the

:28:06. > :28:10.Bradford line, go for a try. They did. He never went for goal, he

:28:11. > :28:11.never scored a try, and Radford clinched the game in this final

:28:12. > :28:24.minutes. The Leeds players are ready to come

:28:25. > :28:28.out for the second half. Let's talk to a man who has been in the lead

:28:29. > :28:32.changing room, he has also been in the St Helens changing room, and he

:28:33. > :28:37.won three Challenge Cup 's with Wigan.

:28:38. > :28:46.What do you make of this game? It has been a great game, very even.

:28:47. > :28:52.Anybody could win the game today. Do you pick sides? Since I played with

:28:53. > :28:58.Paul Wellens, and he is still playing, I will have to go for St

:28:59. > :29:03.Helens today. But it could be anybody's. You must have amazing

:29:04. > :29:10.memories of this tournament. It has got a special place in anybody's

:29:11. > :29:14.heart in England, just to have played in one is awesome. For me,

:29:15. > :29:21.probably the first one, you never forget it, in 1987 against Halifax.

:29:22. > :29:32.I hold dear. It was such a dominant Wigan team then. Yes, we had a great

:29:33. > :29:36.side, we were Nicky cups. We won all four, it was awesome. How would you

:29:37. > :29:42.have described yourself as a player? You can look back now and

:29:43. > :29:48.said, I wish I had been more consistent, but hey! They make named

:29:49. > :29:53.Judy beast, you think the players are getting bigger and stronger. You

:29:54. > :29:59.look at the Polynesian boys in New Zealand, on the islands, you can get

:30:00. > :30:04.them over six foot four, six and five at 14 or 15, it is pretty

:30:05. > :30:06.scary. I would not have liked to have run at them! How will this go

:30:07. > :30:19.in the second half? Saints could do some damage, but

:30:20. > :30:23.Leeds are playing very well. Ryan Hall on the wind is killing it. If

:30:24. > :30:29.they can be a bit more patient, they can win. Thank you very much.

:30:30. > :30:34.The players may be getting bigger and stronger. Fortunately, the

:30:35. > :30:40.shorter I getting bigger as well. They were very tight back in those

:30:41. > :30:46.days! I remember watching the finals back in New Zealand when I was

:30:47. > :30:54.young, and I wanted to be like them, big shoulder pads and tiny shorts!

:30:55. > :31:00.This was fantastic earlier, have you ever tried to do this?

:31:01. > :31:05.No chance! There would be an earthquake if I did that. That does

:31:06. > :31:20.not bode well funny. He has been very good in the first

:31:21. > :31:29.half, Rob Burrow. Strictly Come Dancing so work whenever he gets the

:31:30. > :31:33.ball. -- footwork. Rob Burrow breaks at the line. They are able to

:31:34. > :31:41.play-off the back of it. They can release the edges. Briscoe is

:31:42. > :31:45.devastating for Leeds and that is what Saint Helens needs to combat.

:31:46. > :31:59.Rob Burrow is coming back out. Sit back and enjoy the second half

:32:00. > :32:09.with Brian Noble, Jonathan Davies and Dave Woods.

:32:10. > :32:17.Only twice in the last 14 years has a Challenge Cup final not featured

:32:18. > :32:23.one of these teams. It is great to hear from Kevin, saying the first

:32:24. > :32:29.one is always the most unforgettable, 1987 against Halifax.

:32:30. > :32:35.It is 1988! The memory is going. 1987 was Saint Helens against

:32:36. > :32:42.Halifax. I had to play against Kevin, he was massive. He had a

:32:43. > :32:51.brother who was good as well. Here they go, Leeds get possession in

:32:52. > :32:54.nearly stages, leading by 12-6, with 40 minutes to sort this one out in

:32:55. > :32:57.the sunshine at Headingley. We don't get sick talking about the sunshine

:32:58. > :33:16.at Headingley. Liam Sutcliffe was on loan to

:33:17. > :33:26.Bradford until recently. Big things expected of him in these parts.

:33:27. > :33:32.Good work by the forwards. Look where they have ended up once again,

:33:33. > :33:41.into the Saint Helens half bull stop it is so much easier for the kicker

:33:42. > :33:44.now. Lomax has to retreat towards his own line. Tom Makinson is in his

:33:45. > :33:57.shadow. Getting out of your own heart is

:33:58. > :34:02.really important without any errors. If you want to play possession in

:34:03. > :34:08.percentage bubble, that is ready do it. If you are giving attacking

:34:09. > :34:12.situations to you -- the opposition, it increases anxiety. A great

:34:13. > :34:42.example of getting out of your own half by the Leeds team.

:34:43. > :34:51.Both coaches are pretty happy, Brian McDermott saying keep going the way

:34:52. > :34:57.we are. Nathan Brown said his team is doing a good job. He said he

:34:58. > :35:01.wants more field position this half and better control of the ball. He

:35:02. > :35:08.said it is tight and it is anybody's game. I would have said,

:35:09. > :35:14.keep your discipline. Unnecessary high shot there, which gives Leeds

:35:15. > :36:14.good field position. That is crucial in this game.

:36:15. > :36:22.A good decision. It takes it beyond the converted try. They must have

:36:23. > :36:35.been looking at the planning at the BBC. There is Kevin.

:36:36. > :36:52.Was there a big push their? He was off-balance.

:36:53. > :37:00.Kevin Sinfield is going to take all the time in the world with this.

:37:01. > :37:05.1999, the last time that Leeds when the Challenge Cup. Not so much a

:37:06. > :37:10.buying call for this generation of Leeds layers, more a haunting

:37:11. > :37:14.reminder of Challenge Cup history being rewritten each year,

:37:15. > :37:18.continuously, and Leeds are featuring only as a footnote each

:37:19. > :37:27.year. Kevin Sinfield, Gary Maguire, Rob Burrow, Carl Ablett, Ryan Hall,

:37:28. > :37:32.players to would love to add this trophy that is missing from their

:37:33. > :37:37.cabinet, the memory banks. Gary Hetherington, the Leeds chief

:37:38. > :37:41.executive, looking on alongside his wife, wondering if this is the

:37:42. > :37:52.moment that Leeds edged towards a quarterfinal place.

:37:53. > :37:57.Walsh was having running repairs in that first half, putting more

:37:58. > :38:01.strapping on the elbow. He has been moved out towards the right in

:38:02. > :38:10.defence. They are determined to keep him at their if they can. Needs must

:38:11. > :38:24.for Saint Helens. Lomax with the restart.

:38:25. > :38:35.Leuluai has had a decent game and we established a platform for the Leeds

:38:36. > :38:47.team. Ian Kirke's 200th appearance today.

:38:48. > :38:56.The Saint Helens defence just about reacting in time. Here comes Kevin

:38:57. > :39:06.Sinfield with a kick, high and hanging. Taken safely by Tom

:39:07. > :39:14.Makinson. The Leeds kick chase is well organised. This seller here is

:39:15. > :39:19.the danger in the backfield. Having that was accidental. They are doing

:39:20. > :39:23.a good job in getting a good field position. They have so much time for

:39:24. > :39:31.the Leeds kickers. They have kept Mose Masoe really

:39:32. > :39:46.quiet. Joe Greenwood for Saint Helens has

:39:47. > :40:00.taken them just inside Leeds' territory.

:40:01. > :40:08.Plenty to come this afternoon, plenty of Rugby League left in this

:40:09. > :40:14.match, but also the red button once we have finished. You can contact us

:40:15. > :40:21.on Facebook. The draw is at 6:30pm on the BBC News Channel on Monday

:40:22. > :40:32.evening. While we are putting things, on BBC 5 Live tomorrow, we

:40:33. > :40:34.will have full commentary of the match between Salford and Widnes am

:40:35. > :41:20.as well as all the other matches. Great colour defence from Jon

:41:21. > :41:32.Wilkin. Yes, they should have gone left. They have got the numbers

:41:33. > :41:37.here. And Moon is over. Leeds rips right through the middle. They find

:41:38. > :41:43.the gaps in the edges to confirm their dominant situation. 18-6.

:41:44. > :41:51.Great plague by Sinfield and Maguire.

:41:52. > :41:59.A brilliant, brilliant try, great team effort by Leeds. Just watch

:42:00. > :42:06.them pay, roll it back, and then the outside. I thought he had gone the

:42:07. > :42:11.wrong way, then. But don't panic. They realise that the defence is

:42:12. > :42:18.scattered, and they just go down the left-hand side. Again, it is just

:42:19. > :42:26.Josh Jones staying off. Great with on the shift here.

:42:27. > :42:34.The shift after they break was particularly good. But also, Tom

:42:35. > :42:37.Makinson had to scramble back and make the tackle on Rob Burrow, and

:42:38. > :42:43.then they were short on the left-hand side and cleverly worked

:42:44. > :42:51.it that way. Kevin Sinfield for the touchline.

:42:52. > :42:57.Leeds have only conceded one try in each of their last format games,

:42:58. > :43:01.conceding an average of only eight points every game this season, and

:43:02. > :43:06.that is the size of the task ahead of Saint Helens now. They have to

:43:07. > :43:09.penetrate the least penetrable defence in rugby League, and they

:43:10. > :43:13.have to do it several times, because this kick takes it to 20-6 into the

:43:14. > :43:36.second half. Saints have to score next to keep

:43:37. > :43:39.this game alive. If they are looking for inspiration, it is the meeting

:43:40. > :43:43.between eating backsides in the Super League a couple of months ago,

:43:44. > :43:53.Wayne -- when Saint Helens one. They have to throw caution to the

:43:54. > :43:56.wind and throw in a few off-loads, because they are not challenging

:43:57. > :44:19.this Leeds defence. A really efficient job that Leeds

:44:20. > :44:45.are doing at the moment. Saint Helens start from there with

:44:46. > :44:55.the old of their forwards struggling to get behind. Someone has got to do

:44:56. > :45:06.something just to spark this aside up. The writing has been on the

:45:07. > :45:08.wall. They have just got through against Huddersfield. A penalty

:45:09. > :45:19.year. You sometimes need a break or a

:45:20. > :45:30.penalty. It is important they keep their focus and showed their

:45:31. > :45:34.offensive prowess. How can you sum up this game in four words? That is

:45:35. > :45:44.the question we are asking you for the forum. A penalty for St Helens,

:45:45. > :45:49.another of those decisions, when it goes your way, you think there might

:45:50. > :46:03.be a way back into the game. Leeds Rhinos have been making a

:46:04. > :46:10.speciality of this, hanging on in situations like this. Have St Helens

:46:11. > :46:21.got the creativity to find a way through? Josh Jones scores! They

:46:22. > :46:29.have went's they have found a way back! Such a simple try. A late ball

:46:30. > :46:38.to Josh Jones, and the gap opens up to him.

:46:39. > :46:45.The Leeds Rhinos defence goes soft momentarily. That is on the back of

:46:46. > :46:55.two penalties. Kyle a Moore has brought some vigour. He scores right

:46:56. > :47:04.at the line, Liam Sutcliffe does not pay any attention. He holds, the

:47:05. > :47:09.double pump, one goes in, one goes out, the gap opens up, very good

:47:10. > :47:20.play. Simple, simple play, but effective. Hit straight back. Luke

:47:21. > :47:26.Walsh, the man whose drop goal drag St Helens here in the first race,

:47:27. > :47:35.that puts them back to within two scores.

:47:36. > :47:46.He thinks he is playing out of the back, he will not score an easy one.

:47:47. > :47:48.Liam Sutcliffe over read the play, but very good play from St Helens.

:47:49. > :48:17.So simple. St Helens have got their dander up.

:48:18. > :48:18.A sudden influx of self belief. No mistakes, and if nothing comes from

:48:19. > :48:48.it... Kyle Amor is heard. A couple of

:48:49. > :49:00.decisions have gone the way of St Helens. They still keep possession.

:49:01. > :49:11.That does not look good for two. I am not sure what he did. He got his

:49:12. > :49:19.knee in the wrong place. Somebody jumps off him. He is lucky he did

:49:20. > :49:24.not break his leg, that is one good thing. He got himself in a very

:49:25. > :49:30.awkward position, and the Leeds Rhinos player fell on him. I hope he

:49:31. > :49:35.is OK. Just watch the right foot. The ball goes down, he steps to get

:49:36. > :49:40.away from the ball, then the weight comes down. He is so lucky he did

:49:41. > :49:53.not break his leg, I just hope he is OK. He has had his injury problems

:49:54. > :49:58.this year. He is clearly in a good deal of discomfort. What news over

:49:59. > :50:04.their? It is not looking good for him. He

:50:05. > :50:09.is a tough guy, hopefully he will stand up and carry on. How can you

:50:10. > :50:14.get back into this? How do they finish this off? It is about

:50:15. > :50:22.building pressure. Leeds Rhinos are a tough side, they know how to play.

:50:23. > :50:27.It is about getting our share of ball and then we will be OK. You

:50:28. > :50:30.have won so many games in the last couple of minutes, does that give

:50:31. > :50:37.you even more confidence? I guess so. We did not do as well as we

:50:38. > :50:40.would have liked over Easter, but the game is not finished until the

:50:41. > :50:45.whistle is blown. Is it tough for you to sit and watch? Definitely,

:50:46. > :50:50.but hopefully I will be back shortly.

:50:51. > :51:00.Kyle Amor is coming off. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook is coming on. It

:51:01. > :51:06.is not worth risking that. It is a shame, because he has made a

:51:07. > :51:18.difference. Paul Wellens is on the field. Stick it up in the air, a

:51:19. > :51:26.good chase. I do not understand that cake. It is not an up and under or a

:51:27. > :51:36.chip. You let the wind take it and have a really good chase.

:51:37. > :51:40.The home side are not as comfortable as they were three or form in its

:51:41. > :52:05.ago. Leeds Rhinos have had some reward

:52:06. > :52:14.down the right-hand side. These little incidents... He is not happy,

:52:15. > :52:17.Jamie Peacock. He will not change his mind. Seven errors from Leeds

:52:18. > :52:33.Rhinos. The stats sometimes lie. Errors

:52:34. > :53:35.made, but with Leeds Rhinos, it is on the back of risks taken.

:53:36. > :53:46.I am not sure who he obstructed, but those are the rules. The penalty

:53:47. > :53:57.goes to Leeds Rhinos. It is nothing, really. The defender is not going to

:53:58. > :54:03.get to Jon Wilkin will stop --. If you run behind somebody, it is

:54:04. > :54:07.deemed to be an obstruction. The referees have taken to the letter of

:54:08. > :54:10.the law. As a player, you think there is nothing wrong. There has to

:54:11. > :54:27.be common sense sometimes. It is the beauty of the Challenge

:54:28. > :54:31.Cup, they are battling for a place in the quarterfinals, as are Swinton

:54:32. > :54:33.and Keighley, the big ones and the little ones, all in the mix

:54:34. > :55:15.together. Leeds Rhinos do the basics so well,

:55:16. > :55:22.they good -- they get good drives, a good kick, a good chasing tackle.

:55:23. > :55:32.They do not force anything. They do the plays and scored tries, it is so

:55:33. > :55:33.simple and effective. The Leeds Rhinos defence have handled James

:55:34. > :56:04.Roby well. He was wondering, what am I doing

:56:05. > :56:09.here? That is what they have to do now, the Leeds Rhinos defence have

:56:10. > :56:12.been so good. They have to score more points than Leeds Rhinos than

:56:13. > :56:23.anybody else has achieved this season. They have to do the chips,

:56:24. > :56:28.they have to do the off-loads. The other problem is, in this position,

:56:29. > :56:33.they have to defend really well. I think Leeds Rhinos will score some

:56:34. > :56:43.more points. An awful lot of game time to go. Anything could happen.

:56:44. > :56:55.That is a better chase. That is the difference. James Roby takes the

:56:56. > :57:31.game to Kevin Sinfield. He relieve the pressure of the fullback.

:57:32. > :57:43.Jordan Turner is hurt, he might have gone over on his ankle. James Roby

:57:44. > :57:50.sticks it out of play. There is plenty of time, but the St Helens

:57:51. > :57:56.kicking strategy, they need to create opportunities for themselves.

:57:57. > :58:01.Kicking a sideline at this stage might take the pressure off the

:58:02. > :58:04.Leeds Rhinos team. If you are just rolling the ball into touch, you are

:58:05. > :58:17.handing the ball over to Leeds Rhinos. They are making BEC yardage.

:58:18. > :58:24.They have to do something different. Tanya, what news?

:58:25. > :58:28.They have not written him off completely, they will leave him five

:58:29. > :58:30.to ten minutes, but he has a large ice pack strapped to his leg. We

:58:31. > :58:49.might see him back. Brad Singleton is interesting, he

:58:50. > :58:55.has conceded penalties for shoulder charges in the last couple of games.

:58:56. > :59:25.Standing up to the bigger, older fellas in no uncertain terms.

:59:26. > :59:37.St Helens need a bit of glory, quickly. Great play again from Rob

:59:38. > :59:47.Burrow, closing the space down. A good tackle. Luke Walsh has gone

:59:48. > :59:52.over, and St Helens' interest ends. Rob Burrow is injured. He has

:59:53. > :00:10.injured his shoulder. He is having treatment on the far side.

:00:11. > :00:20.Rob Burrow is hurt. I think he's going off.

:00:21. > :00:39.But Sinfield into dummy half, I would think.

:00:40. > :00:50.Danny McGuire has glorious memories of playing at St Helens.

:00:51. > :00:53.Well played, but you can see their tactics. Everything is going to go

:00:54. > :01:20.up in the air. Legs have gone up above the

:01:21. > :01:34.perpendicular. Why do that? He had the tackle, why tipping? It is a

:01:35. > :01:57.no-brainer, that one. He nearly had him on the nose! Be careful.

:01:58. > :02:09.Somebody's got blood on their face. Taking out the back and clean him

:02:10. > :02:17.up. What is the latest news on the injury front? Rob Burrow took a bang

:02:18. > :02:18.on the point of his shoulder, but hopefully it is not dislocated, even

:02:19. > :02:41.though he came off in a lot of pain. Ryan Hall is the immovable force on

:02:42. > :02:50.the left-hand side for Leeds. He ran into a brick wall in Tom Makinson

:02:51. > :03:05.and lost possession. They went to early. It was Turner who had to take

:03:06. > :03:09.the tackle there. He goes down. They have to create an opportunity

:03:10. > :03:14.against a good offence, so you will chance your arm. 14 minutes to go.

:03:15. > :03:17.They have not been down this end of the field too much, so they might

:03:18. > :04:00.consider it. You have got to chase the kicker. A

:04:01. > :04:14.brilliant state, that is. A clash of heads there between Paul

:04:15. > :04:45.Wellens Adam Swift. -- and Swift. James Roby is trying to make things

:04:46. > :04:55.happen, but they simply are not, not from dummy half. Ryan Hall is so

:04:56. > :05:00.solid, absolutely solid. He takes it and comes down like a ruck. Leeds

:05:01. > :05:05.again moving away from their own line full of they have an assurance

:05:06. > :05:09.and a confidence of an 8-point lead as time ticks by. 11.5 minutes to

:05:10. > :05:29.play. St Helens' defenders rushing out

:05:30. > :05:36.there to make sure progresses kept to a minimum.

:05:37. > :05:42.That is the difference. Look where they had the kick from. No pressure

:05:43. > :06:00.on Lomax, no chance to run it out. Good tackle.

:06:01. > :06:12.It is like a game of chess now. Muscular chest.

:06:13. > :06:21.A great kick. There are moments in matches, moments in matches that you

:06:22. > :06:27.look back on at the end of the cup campaign and say, that is when our

:06:28. > :06:31.looks turned, and you just wonder. That is why it is important to keep

:06:32. > :06:37.someone like Luke Walsh on the field, for moments like that.

:06:38. > :06:41.Fortunate in the end, because Zak Hardaker did exceptionally well to

:06:42. > :06:50.get over there, but the bounce of the ball favoured St Helens. A big

:06:51. > :06:57.set of six, not only in this match, but in this competition this year.

:06:58. > :06:58.The status of these two sides, whoever wins today will be installed

:06:59. > :07:22.as favourites. Do you think so? Leeds are doing what Leeds do best

:07:23. > :07:36.at the moment, defending their line. They are not a soft touch.

:07:37. > :07:51.Three tackles gone, James Roby spinning it out to Walsh.

:07:52. > :07:59.Ryan Hall is there again. That is the anthem of the game.

:08:00. > :08:09.He has lost it. You just wonder whether St Helens have lost it now.

:08:10. > :08:16.Leeds hang gone on a big set of six. The two bigger players, those were

:08:17. > :08:24.the opportunities, Luke Walsh slipped over twice.

:08:25. > :08:28.Not exactly a look of resignation from Nathan Brown, but certainly one

:08:29. > :08:34.of frustration. Leeds will be looking for good

:08:35. > :08:57.yardage and a good kick. Has he gone behind him? He reckons

:08:58. > :09:32.he did. The referee is consistent. Would he have taken a penalty kick

:09:33. > :10:00.their -- there? Picked up why Zak Hardaker. They

:10:01. > :10:15.have to score the two points again. Ryan Hall is blistering today. Every

:10:16. > :10:22.aspect of his game has been tiptop. Here is Peacock leading by example.

:10:23. > :10:29.Leeds might have a comfortable margin, but it is less than

:10:30. > :10:33.comfortable in terms of the muscular chest that is going on. It is going

:10:34. > :10:40.to be finished by Danny McGuire. How many times has Danny McGuire slipped

:10:41. > :10:51.into the ribs of St Helens? He has just it again. Leeds bathroom to the

:10:52. > :10:59.quarterfinals of the Challenge Cup. Danny McGuire with the finisher.

:11:00. > :11:11.That is the prowess of the Leeds backline. A mistake from Mose Masoe

:11:12. > :11:16.that gives Leeds the advantage. McGuire releases Hardaker and gets

:11:17. > :11:20.on the outside. Kallum Watkins runs straight through. McGuire finishes

:11:21. > :11:26.his own play that he started way back on their own 40. Kallum Watkins

:11:27. > :11:31.has kept it quiet, but this is how good he is. He has a chance. He

:11:32. > :11:39.brushes off to back tacklers. Game over.

:11:40. > :11:58.Danny McGuire had a decisive try in 2003 that helped a cup tie go to

:11:59. > :12:01.extra time. Danny McGuire with a late drop goal that beat St Helens

:12:02. > :12:06.in the Super League play-offs last year. His 250th try was scored

:12:07. > :12:15.against St Helens. And today he scores a try that N Sync Helens

:12:16. > :12:24.Bhopes for another years. St Helens had their hopes. Luke Walsh slipped

:12:25. > :12:30.twice. Overall, I think they have been the better side. They made a

:12:31. > :12:47.few errors, but very, very effective.

:12:48. > :12:59.There it goes. It is like one of those boxing matches. They could not

:13:00. > :13:07.quite land the delivery, and then all of a sudden, a great

:13:08. > :13:10.counterpunch. Kallum Watkins brushes off personal and Swift and McGuire

:13:11. > :13:22.finishes off the play that he started. We have five minutes to

:13:23. > :13:32.play. Man of the match? Ablett has played well, but the man of the

:13:33. > :13:38.match is Ryan Hall for me. He has been tremendous. We are so used to

:13:39. > :13:46.him scoring tries. The work he has done has been immense in this half.

:13:47. > :13:51.Ablett has played well as well. He has caused a lot of problemss on the

:13:52. > :14:05.left-hand side. They are directing the kick out of

:14:06. > :14:12.play, worked on, and making St Helens do some hard work from deep

:14:13. > :14:15.inside their own ten metres. This is not defining the season for St

:14:16. > :14:21.Helens, but it is defining the Challenge Cup, because they are out

:14:22. > :14:30.of it now. Three weeks on the bounce. They have had injuries. They

:14:31. > :14:33.are a bit healthier. At times in this game, sometimes it is the

:14:34. > :14:37.bounce of the ball or a penalty decision or some loose play, and it

:14:38. > :14:44.makes the difference between winning and losing, and losing can become

:14:45. > :14:48.habit. Luke Walsh has been hindered by that arm and has not been so

:14:49. > :15:13.effective. But you can't take anything away from Leeds.

:15:14. > :15:17.Leeds are in the mood for another one here. Someone has taken a

:15:18. > :15:31.headshot. It is Jon Wilkin. He has

:15:32. > :16:07.overextended his right leg. Nathan Brown knows it will not be

:16:08. > :16:16.his year. Whoever you are a fan of, join us for the red button forum

:16:17. > :16:26.when this has finished. Jamie Peacock will be joining us. As well

:16:27. > :16:40.of -- as all of your favourite. I am not involved.

:16:41. > :16:48.He grabs the moment of glory, Jamie Peacock, his penultimate year. More

:16:49. > :16:53.than most, he will hope it will be a Wembley crescendo to 2014. He has

:16:54. > :17:05.got the crescendo moment this afternoon, with a big rain. He had

:17:06. > :17:12.worked tirelessly through the game. A lovely left foot step, and he

:17:13. > :17:18.dives over. You mentioned Jamie Peacock, and there he is, on cue. A

:17:19. > :17:21.great score. He saw the gap, he was not going to be denied. He has

:17:22. > :17:28.carried the ball really strongly today. There is the finish. Greg

:17:29. > :17:30.Richards moves a bit too far, he leaves the inside gate open for him.

:17:31. > :17:49.He steps in. Jamie Peacock, MBE, to give him his

:17:50. > :17:56.full title. The former Bradford Bulls team-mate of Brian McDermott

:17:57. > :18:05.when they enjoyed wimpy success. Kevin Sinfield looking to give Leeds

:18:06. > :18:10.a 32-12 lead. The scoreline does not matter in the Challenge Cup, you are

:18:11. > :18:16.either in or out. If the score on fair on St Helens? With the Danny

:18:17. > :18:22.McGuire try was in, that was it, and St Helens but that was it. They

:18:23. > :18:38.dropped the intensity defensively a bit. As Brian McDermott said, they

:18:39. > :18:45.can score tries. They are hoping there is a way back, there isn't,

:18:46. > :18:50.but they will keep playing. A bit of spirit in the camp, they are looking

:18:51. > :18:59.to force the referee to stop the clock. St Helens only need four

:19:00. > :19:07.tries in the last 45 seconds! I'm not sure that is possible!

:19:08. > :19:33.St Helens are looking to go down fighting here.

:19:34. > :19:41.Lots of bodies and hands there. Sia Soliola has knocked on. I do not

:19:42. > :19:46.think even St Helens will bother packing down. That is it, game over.

:19:47. > :19:56.It was over when Danny McGuire scored the try in the 75th minute.

:19:57. > :20:00.The high-fives from Leeds Rhinos. Leeds Rhinos go through to the

:20:01. > :20:07.quarterfinals of the Challenge Cup. That is a big hurdle they have just

:20:08. > :20:10.overcome. It is nice to get home advantage in the early rounds and

:20:11. > :20:16.knock out one of the big contenders. A job well done. Very impressive

:20:17. > :20:23.defensively and offensively. Solid kicking. They are going to be there

:20:24. > :20:28.or thereabouts again. How impressed were you, Brian? I thought they were

:20:29. > :20:35.clinical, they took their opportunities, and the way they

:20:36. > :20:38.defended, it will take a real good team with some good ideas to break

:20:39. > :20:43.them down. St Helens could not control the ball all get enough

:20:44. > :20:46.possession in the right parts of the field to challenge that. Justifiable

:20:47. > :20:59.winners for me. A tough game, they always seem to

:21:00. > :21:05.have their noses in front, never behind at any point. And early Zak

:21:06. > :21:12.Hardaker try cancelled out by Adam Swift, but Zak Hardaker's second was

:21:13. > :21:14.a big psychological difference. His two tries were so important in that

:21:15. > :21:23.first half. Congratulations, how tough was

:21:24. > :21:30.that? Really tough, we knew it would be tough, it is a really good

:21:31. > :21:37.performance. We are chuffed to get through. How pleasing for you to pop

:21:38. > :21:43.up with another two tries? It is always good, but the important thing

:21:44. > :21:50.was to get the victory. What do you put your good form down to? A bit of

:21:51. > :21:54.hard work and determination. Everybody is trying to do their

:21:55. > :22:00.best, and hopefully that will take us to some finals again. The defence

:22:01. > :22:09.what magnificent, has that been a key focus? It has been good all

:22:10. > :22:12.year. The average number points we concede is between eight and ten, so

:22:13. > :22:18.that is good. Credit to all the boys, we are thrilled to get through

:22:19. > :22:23.to the next round. Congratulations, let's bring in the man of the match,

:22:24. > :22:28.Ryan Hall. I have interviewed you many a time when you have scored

:22:29. > :22:35.brilliant tries, Patrick 's, is it nicer to get one for your defensive

:22:36. > :22:41.work? Whether I score or not, it does not matter. The main thing is

:22:42. > :22:46.that we won, we are through to the next round, that is a great feeling,

:22:47. > :22:54.against a top side. We knew it would be a tough game, we are happy to be

:22:55. > :22:57.in the pot for the next round. How focused were you on what Tom

:22:58. > :23:02.Makinson did to do in your one defeat this season? He is having a

:23:03. > :23:08.good year, he has put his name forward for an England shirt, which

:23:09. > :23:15.is really good. I always like to play well against potential England

:23:16. > :23:20.contenders. Thank you very much, let's bring in the skipper. You must

:23:21. > :23:25.be delighted with what was a real all-round team performance. Very

:23:26. > :23:30.pleased, it was tough at times, St Helens did not give him. There were

:23:31. > :23:34.some nervy moments, I am delighted to be in the next round, they are a

:23:35. > :23:39.really good side. Really happy to get the victory. He talked about

:23:40. > :23:45.cutting out the errors, was that the focus for the second half? Pretty

:23:46. > :23:47.much, we had a decent game plan, and if you do not keep older of the

:23:48. > :23:58.ball, you cannot execute it. There were some errors, St Helens have a

:23:59. > :24:03.real go, a great game today. Once again, it has been the defence that

:24:04. > :24:07.has been the key. It is the commitment to work hard for each

:24:08. > :24:13.other, we have not changed anything since Brian McDermott has been here.

:24:14. > :24:18.We are scrambling well for each other, we seem to have a bit more

:24:19. > :24:23.control. Areas for us to work on, but to only concede 12 points

:24:24. > :24:32.against St Helens is pleasing. How much does the Challenge Cup mean? We

:24:33. > :24:36.have had a queue goes now. We keep coming up short. We are in the next

:24:37. > :24:38.round, we will give it our best shot, like we have done every other

:24:39. > :24:43.year. Congratulations. Plenty more reaction to come now,

:24:44. > :25:03.and also on the red button. We will be on the red button until

:25:04. > :25:44.5pm, and plenty of fifth round ties tomorrow.

:25:45. > :25:53.Clinical, ruthless, dominant in the end? Yes, I used the word

:25:54. > :25:59.professional, Leeds Rhinos do a job just about every time. Today was no

:26:00. > :26:04.exception. I really enjoyed what they did. St Helens were getting

:26:05. > :26:11.back into it, but two going off was a massive moment. We will start with

:26:12. > :26:21.Joel Moon's try. Great build-up play. You can see him coming off his

:26:22. > :26:28.line. He releases Carl Ablett. The St Helens defenders scrambling back.

:26:29. > :26:33.Rob Burrow does his job well. He keeps on going, and what you have

:26:34. > :26:38.here, the St Helens players rushing towards the ball. Kevin Sinfield did

:26:39. > :26:46.some brilliant lead up work, and it is a two on one with Joel Moon on

:26:47. > :26:51.the outside. Joel Moon backs himself one-on-one with the try-line

:26:52. > :26:58.beckoning. It is a great lead up. On the back of really good work. Joel

:26:59. > :27:04.Moon going over, his centre partner was instrumental, in Danny

:27:05. > :27:11.McGuire's try. Ridiculous skill, Kallum Watkins, he thinks, I am

:27:12. > :27:17.going for this. He has got great support. Danny McGuire has scored

:27:18. > :27:26.tonnes of tries from doing this on a regular occasion. Put his head down,

:27:27. > :27:30.goes for it, and great support. Adam Swift and Mark Percival took each

:27:31. > :27:34.other out. Kallum Watkins was so quick and strong. Jamie Peacock

:27:35. > :27:43.hitting the final try, he will join us on the red button. Tweet us if

:27:44. > :27:46.you want to get involved. Nathan Brown is with Tanya.

:27:47. > :27:58.What was the difference today? We had some really good opportunities

:27:59. > :28:02.at 20-12. Some good different from them, and not so good attack by us,

:28:03. > :28:09.we were not quite good enough to bridge the back -- which the gap.

:28:10. > :28:14.There was not a great deal in the game at times, we had a couple of

:28:15. > :28:18.lapses on two or three occasions, and when you have that against Leeds

:28:19. > :28:26.Rhinos, with their speed, you make a mistake and they punish you. Our

:28:27. > :28:34.defence was not that good -- as good as it needed to be. A couple of

:28:35. > :28:40.injuries as well. Things have not been great, we are more result -- we

:28:41. > :28:44.are more concerned about the result of the game at the moment. They were

:28:45. > :28:49.too good for us today, we have got a fair bit of work today.

:28:50. > :29:01.Plenty more reaction on the red button. We will be here. Leeds

:29:02. > :29:04.Rhinos are one step closer to another Challenge Cup final. We will

:29:05. > :29:40.see you for the quarterfinals at the beginning of June, goodbye.

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