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:00:27. > :00:35.There were thrills and spills clot over the weekend. Robin Copeland

:00:36. > :00:40.reveals how despite being man of the match last week, he still has not

:00:41. > :00:50.had an invitation to join Sam Warburton's men. With the autumn

:00:51. > :00:58.internationals on the horizon, we delve deep into Warren Gatland's

:00:59. > :01:04.coaching philosophy. Good evening and welcome to Scrum V. We're here

:01:05. > :01:10.to assess all the weekend's bed-macro action. We will kick

:01:11. > :01:21.things off with the Welsh derby at the Liberty Stadium. - - we are here

:01:22. > :01:49.to assess the Pro12 action. Andrew Coombs returns.

:01:50. > :02:11.Andrew Coombs. That worked out nicely. He has got the early score.

:02:12. > :02:23.He is aimed, he leaving. Matthew Morgan.

:02:24. > :02:46.It is comfortable defending at the moment for the ospreys.

:02:47. > :03:23.A drop goal attempt by Matthew Morgan.

:03:24. > :03:38.That was a great off-loads to Justin Tipuric. Brilliant. Justin Tipuric.

:03:39. > :03:49.That was lovely there. It was a great try. Determined from the

:03:50. > :04:08.dragons. He is very difficult to bring down.

:04:09. > :04:25.Lazy defending will see a yellow card.

:04:26. > :04:34.Just watch his head. He's going straight down. Sympathetic applause

:04:35. > :04:41.around the Liberty Stadium. Dragons are a man short and a

:04:42. > :05:09.penalty now. James King supplied the ball. Scott

:05:10. > :05:33.Baldwin there. Called when sneaked in. - - bald when sneaked in.

:05:34. > :06:00.It fell into the hands of Francisco Chaparro.

:06:01. > :06:16.It was frustrating. We will not give up. It was a step back. We have got

:06:17. > :06:23.to keep driving towards the Munster game. We have a good record at home

:06:24. > :06:32.this season. It is a disappointment for us. It is not OK to lose away

:06:33. > :06:39.from home. It is a disappointment. We want to keep the home record

:06:40. > :06:42.intact. A convincing win there. The gloomy few weeks in Europe. To what

:06:43. > :06:58.extent will perform and have lifted them? It wasn't a great team

:06:59. > :07:09.performance, if we're honest. Magic individuals who put looking at their

:07:10. > :07:15.season, how do you assess overall? If we go back a few more seasons,

:07:16. > :07:23.they are up our team. They see the strength in their forwards, and why

:07:24. > :07:29.not? For the ospreys, they cannot find a coherent pattern of play

:07:30. > :07:49.which succeeds at the highest level. They have got better players, no

:07:50. > :07:55.disrespect. This Ospreys get to the line.

:07:56. > :08:02.That was not a bad pass to Alun Wyn Jones, but they lost a couple of

:08:03. > :08:14.yards. Then they did the same again, and the same again. They have lost

:08:15. > :08:28.about five yards from the game they initially had. - - the gain. That is

:08:29. > :08:42.the way they play. It is good enough to beat dragons at home.

:08:43. > :08:51.With that amount of talent in 19, it is not acceptable. They need to open

:08:52. > :08:56.their game up. Richard Hibbard made lots of runs in that game. His most

:08:57. > :09:01.effective contribution was passing the ball.

:09:02. > :09:18.Look what happens. It is amazing. You create space. He is a constant

:09:19. > :09:22.threat. Get him out why. The same with Ashley Beck. Get them into wide

:09:23. > :09:31.positions and they can create things. Eli Walker, good example.

:09:32. > :09:43.Only one time in the game where they were so dominant. Watch the All

:09:44. > :09:50.Blacks play. They do it. The Ospreys have to do the same thing. Get the

:09:51. > :09:59.ball into wide positions. Use open space. Thank you. They are second in

:10:00. > :10:06.the league after that, so it was an impressive win. Toby Faletau, an

:10:07. > :10:13.injury on Friday night. We have had a message he has got the all clear.

:10:14. > :10:19.He is one of the most important players in that squad. How much of a

:10:20. > :10:25.relief is it that he is fit? It is always a relief when any player has

:10:26. > :10:29.a neck injury and they recover. I think we said at the start of the

:10:30. > :10:40.year, we must be realistic about the dragons ambitions. We saw them get

:10:41. > :10:47.pretty much destroyed upfront. You have to have a platform to play off.

:10:48. > :10:50.Thanks. We have come off two weeks of Heineken Cup rugby. The

:10:51. > :11:00.tournament may not exist as it stands next season. Talks have

:11:01. > :11:10.continued on progress of sorts have - - talks have continued and

:11:11. > :11:16.progress of sorts has been made. The breakaway tournament formed by

:11:17. > :11:21.English and French clubs. They were asking the WRU to help them get into

:11:22. > :11:37.the tournament. They say they are confident of a positive outcome.

:11:38. > :11:41.With no firm offers... On Thursday, the breakthrough of sorts. The plc,

:11:42. > :11:46.the body that runs a Heineken Cup, exceeded some of the demands made 18

:11:47. > :11:57.months ago, mainly that qualification for the tournament

:11:58. > :12:00.should be fairer. But there were no representatives from the English and

:12:01. > :12:04.French clubs at the summit in Dublin. Now whether any from the

:12:05. > :12:11.Welsh regions, who nailed their colours to the mast earlier in the

:12:12. > :12:15.week. Who will run any future European competition? The unions are

:12:16. > :12:20.the clubs? And who will broadcast it?

:12:21. > :12:28.To quit questions there. More meetings, more statements. How have

:12:29. > :12:38.you interpreted events? It appears that the plc have accepted

:12:39. > :12:45.conditions - - the plc. Who will control it, massive sticking point.

:12:46. > :12:58.The other issue, I can't remember what it is? Television. That is

:12:59. > :13:09.another sticking point. They say they will address governance. I saw

:13:10. > :13:19.a statement from one of the club owners. I don't think there was any

:13:20. > :13:26.doubt they would be a European cup competition next year. Fingers

:13:27. > :13:30.crossed. We spoke to Warren Gatland this week, mainly about his coaching

:13:31. > :13:36.philosophy and what next for Wales. We asked about ongoing European row

:13:37. > :13:42.and how it might affect the fortunes for the national side.

:13:43. > :13:54.The uncertainty is always difficult for players. I don't think the farm

:13:55. > :14:06.for a few players has been as good as it could be. - - the form. They

:14:07. > :14:15.are looking at big offers from French or English clubs. The agents

:14:16. > :14:18.are probably pushing. I think it is had an effect on their performance

:14:19. > :14:25.on the field. We need to get things sorted. It is an interesting point.

:14:26. > :14:30.Players are bound to be affected by this. It is their livelihood. Can

:14:31. > :14:35.uncertainty off the pitch affect your play on it? A psychologist

:14:36. > :15:06.might say so. I think players are in the here and now. The WRAP - - The

:15:07. > :15:09.WRU said they will read contracts some players. They will be using

:15:10. > :15:16.money that would have gone to the regions anyway. Is this a back door

:15:17. > :15:21.way to get central contracts off the ground? If I was able to be player

:15:22. > :15:28.and offered a short-term, temporary contract, as opposed to a three-year

:15:29. > :15:33.deal in France with this much money, you would have to take it. I cannot

:15:34. > :15:42.see how short-term contracts will be appealing to these players. I don't

:15:43. > :15:52.see how short-term contracts will fill a gap for them. Presumably, it

:15:53. > :16:02.will target the players who want to stay here anywhere - - anyway. If

:16:03. > :16:07.there is a doubt about whether there will be a European competition next

:16:08. > :16:12.year, temporary contracts will not help. Warren Gatland is one of the

:16:13. > :16:22.hottest properties in world rugby at the moment. He is back in charge of

:16:23. > :16:28.Wales. It is my honour and pleasure to officially announce the new

:16:29. > :16:41.national coach of Wales is Warren Gatland. 20 years of hurt are over.

:16:42. > :16:51.Warren Gatland. Wales keep on winning under Warren Gatland. Coach

:16:52. > :16:56.Warren Gatland is a red-hot favourite to coach the British and

:16:57. > :17:02.Irish Lions. There are calls for him to be knighted. He has won Grand

:17:03. > :17:08.Slams, European trophies and premiership titles. Success fuels

:17:09. > :17:30.his desire for more. I think the next step is to compete against the

:17:31. > :17:35.best, we need to keep winning. We have talked about being good enough

:17:36. > :17:51.to win, but do they believe it? I am not sure. We expect to go to New

:17:52. > :18:02.Zealand and to the next level. For every Welsh fun watching Scrum V,

:18:03. > :18:07.Wales can when the World Cup? Yes, I think so. I am really excited about

:18:08. > :18:14.the next two years. His stock has risen so much, his style has been

:18:15. > :18:20.given an identity all of its own. I want to talk about this style of

:18:21. > :18:27.play that has been associated with you. Is it a badge of honour that

:18:28. > :18:34.you have this named after you? It suggests it is a bit 1-dimensional.

:18:35. > :18:44.What is a warrant ball? Chuck it up, get over the gain line, smash. It

:18:45. > :19:02.was not a bad game plan, is it? Expression Mark - -! The first part

:19:03. > :19:17.of any set piece is to get across the line. The instructions to

:19:18. > :19:39.players are to play what is in front of you. We are trying to... Rugby is

:19:40. > :19:46.as much about mental preparation as physical. Man management is a big

:19:47. > :19:58.part of his philosophy. Being a father figure. You have two

:19:59. > :20:18.sometimes lose your cool, but it is only effective they few times a

:20:19. > :20:29.season. If players are happy that their wives and girlfriends are

:20:30. > :20:34.happy, that is better. It is not just a one-man operation. He has his

:20:35. > :20:45.generals, and they are a strong willed as he is. We will have a

:20:46. > :21:00.debate and discuss things. Sometimes, it is heated. We are

:21:01. > :21:07.pretty lucky to do. We have skills in size and speed. It is an exciting

:21:08. > :21:16.time to be involved in Welsh rugby. Interesting stuff. Warren talks

:21:17. > :21:20.about his man management. We understand Mike Phillips has been

:21:21. > :21:27.sacked. It was to do with this incident where he allegedly turned

:21:28. > :21:30.up drunk to a video analysis. Do you think he is a scapegoat? To other

:21:31. > :21:38.people were involved to have not been sacked. The argument is that he

:21:39. > :21:42.is a scapegoat because he is one of the big figures of the club, but he

:21:43. > :21:49.has got previous and we all know that. He is walking a tightrope. I

:21:50. > :21:54.like Mike. He's a typical work hard, play hard work be guy who enjoys

:21:55. > :22:02.life to the hilt. He does have responsible it is and he has let

:22:03. > :22:19.himself down badly. A lot of people are in the same position. He was

:22:20. > :22:26.warned repeatedly. He may end up with a central contract. You never

:22:27. > :22:35.know. Gareth, as someone who has played in France, there is the lower

:22:36. > :22:42.level of tolerance perhaps for these kind of incidents? They are

:22:43. > :22:49.different in the way they celebrate after matches. The foreigners tend

:22:50. > :22:56.to stick together. We don't know why Mike has been singled out. It is

:22:57. > :23:02.very unfortunate for him. He loved being in the international

:23:03. > :23:10.environment. We hope you can use as motivation.

:23:11. > :23:17.Someone else I want to talk to you about. Warren Gatland has spoken

:23:18. > :23:23.about quotas for Lions squads. You don't meet me to remind you about

:23:24. > :23:29.the controversy. -- you don't need me. Maybe the debate needs to be had

:23:30. > :23:36.that this -- there should be a character on players. You couldn't

:23:37. > :23:41.do that, could you? It is a shrewd move to bring it up. Immediately,

:23:42. > :23:46.when you say it, it sounds absurd. Once the conclusions arrived at, you

:23:47. > :23:53.say, we would never do it. You would never drop somebody because you have

:23:54. > :24:00.to pick a Scot or a Welshman. He has been shrewd in doing that. The one

:24:01. > :24:04.thing that Lions say is that once you arrive, you are not Welsh

:24:05. > :24:16.Scottish, you are I in. Why do you need a quota? -- Welsh or Scottish,

:24:17. > :24:23.you are in. We are Welsh, we are British, and for that talk we all

:24:24. > :24:26.British. Back to the action. The scholars were hoping to take the

:24:27. > :24:40.European form on the road in the pro 12. -- the Scarlets.

:24:41. > :24:49.He partnered Gareth Davies, scrum-half who got the call ahead of

:24:50. > :24:51.Rhodri Williams. Zebra, boosted by the recent win over the blues, were

:24:52. > :25:10.hoping to take another scalp. The Kiwi scrum-half was caught by

:25:11. > :25:19.Gareth Davies. Nice and quick. Crossing the game line almost at

:25:20. > :25:26.will. Inside ball to Garcia. He is into the 22. All the way he goes.

:25:27. > :25:43.Garcia, for the first time for zebra. The barn door was open.

:25:44. > :25:57.He found his opposite number, who makes ground over halfway. Davis

:25:58. > :26:06.inside, and nobody is home. Davis goes all the way through the posts.

:26:07. > :26:18.A perfect riposte by the Scarlets. There is a sidestep that could have

:26:19. > :26:25.outfoxed MI5. Scarlets might have settled for a draw here. Williams

:26:26. > :26:37.ordering his troops. Charge down from Williams. Picked up by Rob

:26:38. > :26:42.Evans, and a penalty to Zebra. Williams, yes, it came off him and

:26:43. > :26:43.technically he is offside. He was lucky because it must have been

:26:44. > :26:59.instinctive on his part. Off the post. Zebra have the lead

:27:00. > :27:03.with a couple of minutes left. Now it is just a case of running down

:27:04. > :27:09.the clock for the Italians. Seconds away from another famous scalp. They

:27:10. > :27:16.have already taken the Blues. Can they take the Scarlets? A penalty to

:27:17. > :27:23.the Scarlets. Is this a dramatic finale? You can feel the tension on

:27:24. > :27:35.those spectators. He is Priestland. Yes, -- here is Priestland. Out of

:27:36. > :27:39.jail for the Scarlets. We already saw them beat Cardiff

:27:40. > :27:44.this season. Are they a significantly better side? I would

:27:45. > :27:54.expect -- still expect to go there and win. The bigger point in this

:27:55. > :27:58.now is, should any form of Heineken competition take place next year,

:27:59. > :28:03.qualification is no longer on being above the Dragons for any of the

:28:04. > :28:08.regions, but being in the top six. They have got to change the

:28:09. > :28:15.goalposts and get the top six. Every game, they have got to get

:28:16. > :28:22.something. Scholars have lost some points with a full strength team. --

:28:23. > :28:28.Scarlets. The argument is over whether to keep the competition

:28:29. > :28:32.European in flavour. Given that the Italians were in danger of being

:28:33. > :28:38.cast adrift in a New World order, how timely is it that they are now

:28:39. > :28:47.competing and winning matches? He is right in terms of what the

:28:48. > :28:53.qualification process will be. Zebre might have an effect. If they keep

:28:54. > :28:59.taking points off of people, they will be part of the decision. What

:29:00. > :29:05.we want to see is 12 good teams. That is what we want to see Zebre

:29:06. > :29:09.doing. They are not ready to compete for a European spot yet. A fixture

:29:10. > :29:15.that injured for more than 130 years was consigned to the history books

:29:16. > :29:22.last season after the matches had become increasingly one-sided. The

:29:23. > :29:29.age-old annual tie between... The rivalry remains. As a fixer between

:29:30. > :29:34.two schools, it is not only one of the oldest in Wales, it is one of

:29:35. > :29:37.the oldest in the world. It has in June world wars, depressions, even

:29:38. > :29:45.foot and mouth disease, and it has seen them. -- two world wars. Now it

:29:46. > :29:51.is in the archives. However, the former pupils of these great

:29:52. > :29:53.academic situations will not allow this it -- institution to go quietly

:29:54. > :30:19.into the night. Do the basics right and win the

:30:20. > :30:29.game. The mat has been played since 1879, and now it has stopped. What

:30:30. > :30:34.has happened? The fixture is in abeyance, hopefully only for the

:30:35. > :30:37.short-term. When it is safe and possible, we will go ahead with it

:30:38. > :30:52.again. But traditions do evolve. You say a safe fixture. What had

:30:53. > :30:59.been happening? The results speak for themselves. There was concern at

:31:00. > :31:03.the Brecon end that the size of our boys was disproportionate. I think

:31:04. > :31:12.that was a fair and reasonable stance to take.

:31:13. > :31:18.How bad had they got? We came here nine years ago and Llandovery

:31:19. > :31:24.were... It was aimed complete mismatch. Brecon got to the point

:31:25. > :31:29.where they would celebrate if they scored or if they played well in a

:31:30. > :31:32.half. It was a complete mismatch. It was the sort of game you don't like

:31:33. > :31:40.to watch your kids taking part in. But that is rugby.

:31:41. > :31:47.As a contest, maybe it was losing meaning. A game could have been

:31:48. > :31:50.played. It is a shame that a game is being played. We could have done

:31:51. > :31:56.more to even up the sides. It is a shame to lose it. Will we get the

:31:57. > :32:01.fixture back in future? I have said all along that we will do whatever

:32:02. > :32:07.is necessary. I don't think you should squander 100 and years of

:32:08. > :32:14.tradition. -- 100 and years of tradition.

:32:15. > :32:20.I don't think it's appropriate to ask a school to put out a team that

:32:21. > :32:24.is not their best team. That is not what sport is all about. The big

:32:25. > :32:29.issue is one of safety. Providing we have quality referees and

:32:30. > :32:37.professional line judges to ensure the safety of the game, that is half

:32:38. > :32:41.the battle. If it was about parity of fixtures, Wales would have

:32:42. > :32:46.dropped fixes with New Zealand about 50 years ago! Losing is part of

:32:47. > :32:55.life. I was born in Scotland so I'm used to that. And so as one grand

:32:56. > :33:01.old vision is put on hold temporarily, so another one has

:33:02. > :33:04.begun. Well done, boys. Moving on to the premiership and a

:33:05. > :33:11.full round-up of all the weekend's action, here is Kat Peters.

:33:12. > :33:48.Bridgend was a lot closer. Although they lead their visitors 13-5 after

:33:49. > :33:54.40 minutes, the second half was a much closer affair.

:33:55. > :34:01.The evening kick-off last night was at a wet and miserable Park. Three

:34:02. > :34:08.tries were all converted by Josh Lewis.

:34:09. > :34:12.Today, Cardiff came from 13-0 down at half-time to beat their

:34:13. > :34:20.visitors, Swansea, 4318, leaving the table looking ideas. Carmarthen are

:34:21. > :34:28.sitting pretty on the top. 43-8 -- 43-18. The match between Neath and

:34:29. > :34:32.Pontypridd was postponed following the devastating news that

:34:33. > :34:37.Pontypridd's long serving prop, Stuart Williams, died earlier this

:34:38. > :34:40.week. He was 33. Our deepest condolences to the

:34:41. > :34:46.family of Stuart Williams from everybody here. After the blues'

:34:47. > :34:50.heroics against Toulon, their fans are more touristic about what lies

:34:51. > :34:56.ahead in the future. One man who embodies that optimism more than

:34:57. > :35:06.anybody else is Robin Copland. We caught up with him just before the

:35:07. > :35:11.Blues took a trip to Ravenhill. You have done it! Somebody like

:35:12. > :35:17.yourself, who has come to the Cardiff blues from Wexford through

:35:18. > :35:28.Rover, you pay to have embraced the ethos of the club. If you don't

:35:29. > :35:31.appreciate the club you are playing for, you're not going to perform to

:35:32. > :35:34.the best of your ability. You're not go to have the pride and attitude.

:35:35. > :35:42.The question most fans are asking is, how can a team go from being

:35:43. > :35:47.beating -- beaten to beating the European champions within a week? It

:35:48. > :35:50.was a mental change in attitude and the relevant Asian that those

:35:51. > :35:56.performances are not good enough. The whole week, we were registered

:35:57. > :36:00.up and show what we could do. Talk me through that awful, nerve

:36:01. > :36:07.jangling few minutes when Toulon launched everything at you. It was

:36:08. > :36:16.energy sapping. It was a journalist pumping. The final whistle went. --

:36:17. > :36:20.adrenaline pumping. I let out a roar at the final whistle. I was so

:36:21. > :36:27.tired, I had nothing left. Everybody was on the pitch celebrating. It was

:36:28. > :36:31.really special. Your displays of late have led some to talk about

:36:32. > :36:42.your international ambitions. Do you have a preference? I'm Irish, Irish

:36:43. > :36:51.born and Irish bread. My ambition was to put a green jersey on. It is

:36:52. > :36:56.a long way down the line to begin considering stuff like that, but I'm

:36:57. > :37:04.a while away from putting on a green jersey as well categories. Is it

:37:05. > :37:15.fair to say you are an extrovert? I to show my feelings. I'm a bit of a

:37:16. > :37:20.mess, I always have been. I usually fall the prodigal jokes. Anything

:37:21. > :37:29.clean you can tell us about on camera? No! I hear there is a band

:37:30. > :37:33.being formed at Cardiff. I do involve? No, and I don't know why.

:37:34. > :37:39.I'm really talented. I don't know why I'm not involved. I've had

:37:40. > :37:47.words. Another of my sources have said you can do a mean limit our

:37:48. > :37:54.impression? Where are you getting these facts! I will deny that to the

:37:55. > :37:55.ground. -- Lewis Armstrong. We have got you a selection of birthday

:37:56. > :38:13.cakes. Happy birthday. Sir Robin Copland made his second

:38:14. > :38:21.consecutive start for the Blues in a side that showed two changes from

:38:22. > :38:26.the side that beat Toulon. Ulster, top of their pool in Europe, were

:38:27. > :38:39.hoping to extend their sold-out winning streak.

:38:40. > :39:07.He gets it away. For the corner. A wonderful try by the second row.

:39:08. > :39:40.Second try. Good Ulster defence. That is going to be a try. Good

:39:41. > :39:55.support by Callum Black. Ruan Pienaar. Jared Payne. Jackson.

:39:56. > :40:01.Stuart Olding got away. He could not quite get there. Yes, he could. Good

:40:02. > :40:15.defence by Ulster. Wilson. Good support. Jackson.

:40:16. > :40:34.Nicely done. Tommy Bowe. Here is Tommy Bowe again. Jared

:40:35. > :40:57.Payne. What a finish by Dan Tuohy. They came back at us. We let them

:40:58. > :41:06.into the game with a few silly errors.

:41:07. > :41:13.Here rather weak and's other results.

:41:14. > :41:36.- - here are the weekend's other results.

:41:37. > :41:48.Phil Davies called on his charges. That was was good to be a tall

:41:49. > :41:59.order. It was. Ulster played a very good game. I the blues played hard.

:42:00. > :42:08.They were outclassed in the end. It is very different to losing at

:42:09. > :42:15.home. There is no shame in losing to Ulster. It seems like a turning

:42:16. > :42:37.point for the Cardiff Blues. What you make of Robin Copeland? He is

:42:38. > :42:44.dynamic, he is quick, he has good feet. He does impact the game when

:42:45. > :42:48.he gets the ball in his hands. Phil Davies has taken a while to come

:42:49. > :42:56.from the same direction, but I think he is a very fine player. Rank you.

:42:57. > :43:02.We have to leave it there now. Scrum V extra time follows immediately

:43:03. > :43:09.after this online. Make sure you tune in for that on the website. We

:43:10. > :43:14.so Robin Copeland there. He is a bit of a character. That was evident

:43:15. > :43:17.during his interview. We tried to persuade him to audition for this

:43:18. > :43:23.blues band, which I believe Sam Warburton is leading. Bit of

:43:24. > :43:38.persuasion, he did eventually oblige. Good night from others.

:43:39. > :43:52.HE SINGS LIKE LOUS ARMSTRONG. # We had all the time in the world. # if

:43:53. > :44:06.that doesn't get me in the band, I do not know what will. # We have all

:44:07. > :44:07.the time in the