:00:20. > :00:27.The wing wizard has done it again, Shane Williams breaks and
:00:27. > :00:33.Leinster's hearts. Warren Gatland speaks to Scrum V, as he
:00:33. > :00:43.recuperates. My main problem is mobility, I have a scooter at the
:00:43. > :00:44.
:00:44. > :00:54.moment. People asking to pin put my it mobility scooter. We focus on
:00:54. > :00:59.Wales, as they want revenge over the Barbarians. We understand that
:00:59. > :01:06.the Barbarians want to play a certain style of rugby. Next,
:01:06. > :01:14.Australia, they are on the hunt for a scalp. It is a massive target for
:01:14. > :01:22.us. Good evening. Welcome to Scrum V. Within the last hour, the
:01:22. > :01:25.Ospreys have been crowned the Pro12 champions. Jonathan Davies watched
:01:25. > :01:33.the game, we will get comments the game, we will get comments
:01:33. > :01:38.afterwards. But there's really of the action.
:01:38. > :01:46.-- that's really of the action. Both teams were on good form,
:01:46. > :01:50.Leinster hosted the European Cup. The bookies fancied Leinster. The
:01:50. > :01:57.Ospreys had beaten them home and away this season. Could Shane
:01:57. > :02:07.Williams inspire victory in his last-ever appearance?
:02:07. > :02:11.
:02:11. > :02:18.Rob Kearney doesn't do with it. Some good tackling. They didn't
:02:18. > :02:28.deal with the high one. Good pressure by Ryan Jones. Leinster
:02:28. > :02:29.
:02:29. > :02:37.will go from the 22. They do that with Fergus McFadden. A knock-on,
:02:37. > :02:47.play goes on. This time it is a penalty for the Ospreys. The front
:02:47. > :02:48.
:02:48. > :02:58.five not staying on their feet. He has a chance to put his team are in
:02:58. > :03:23.
:03:23. > :03:28.front. He has struck it well. A Rhys Webb was there for the Ospreys.
:03:28. > :03:38.It is a bit manic at the moment. Leinster are pushing the Ospreys
:03:38. > :03:53.
:03:53. > :04:03.a third race. Bishop can go all the way. He's still going. Rhys Webb.
:04:03. > :04:04.
:04:04. > :04:14.One more pass should do it. It has to be a try. No penalty. There is
:04:14. > :04:19.
:04:19. > :04:22.one now, according to Romain Poite. Surely they have to score there? It
:04:22. > :04:32.is the first try-scoring opportunity for the Ospreys. Three
:04:32. > :04:42.points for Dan Biggar. The Ospreys are under pressure. They are under
:04:42. > :04:44.
:04:44. > :04:54.the shadow of their own posts. They run them over. It must be a score
:04:54. > :04:59.
:04:59. > :05:09.for Leinster? It had to come in the end. The first try of the afternoon.
:05:09. > :05:11.
:05:11. > :05:18.Again, that trio in the front row, James Jones, he is trying to put
:05:18. > :05:28.pressure on. Another penalty. Distance is not a problem, Dan
:05:28. > :05:30.
:05:30. > :05:40.Biggar has struck it well. The radar is good, as well. A bit too
:05:40. > :05:46.
:05:46. > :05:53.far, possibly. Brilliantly taken. Great kick by Jonathan Sexton. They
:05:53. > :06:01.need a good platform, the Ospreys. They have gone down to weaselly,
:06:01. > :06:11.Romain Poite is going to his pocket. -- gone down too easily. That is a
:06:11. > :06:21.yellow card for Heinke van der Merwe. Again they are putting down.
:06:21. > :06:25.
:06:25. > :06:35.The scrum goes to ground. Something has to be done here? The seven of
:06:35. > :06:36.
:06:36. > :06:43.scrum in all, again they go down. - - 7th. Alun Wyn Jones cannot
:06:43. > :06:52.believe it, the Ospreys have been penalised. The Ospreys need to turn
:06:52. > :07:02.pressure into points here. A good offload by Ryan Jones. Ashley Beck,
:07:02. > :07:03.
:07:03. > :07:13.this could be a great start. A great start, that is a score. They
:07:13. > :07:23.put it up. A good chase by Leinster. It has gone, it is untidy. There is
:07:23. > :07:25.
:07:25. > :07:35.a chance here for Leinster, there are men out there. Was he in touch?
:07:35. > :07:47.
:07:47. > :07:55.A great tackle by Dan Biggar. The advantage line, Shane Williams in
:07:55. > :08:05.the corner. Has it got there? Romain Poite will go upstairs to
:08:05. > :08:06.
:08:06. > :08:13.the TV match official. The decision is that he can awarded try. --
:08:13. > :08:23.award. They are trying to get a rumble on. Great work from the
:08:23. > :08:33.Leinster forwards. There will be a penalty, at least, for Leinster.
:08:33. > :08:33.
:08:33. > :08:43.They are a great try. It hasn't gone forward, it has gone to Isa
:08:43. > :08:50.
:08:50. > :08:54.Nacewa, he is over. That is the Leinster post, they go on. There is
:08:54. > :09:02.a chance here, Shane Williams, he's going to go to read. Has he got
:09:02. > :09:12.there in the corner? Is very second try for Shane Williams? -- is that
:09:12. > :09:14.
:09:14. > :09:24.there are a second try. The try is awarded. This then to put the
:09:24. > :09:27.
:09:27. > :09:34.Ospreys into the lead. It looks good, it is good! You can feel the
:09:34. > :09:41.tension as Leinster a go every year, within striking distance. And all
:09:41. > :09:49.important tackle, they cannot give away a penalty. The Ospreys have
:09:49. > :09:56.forced a turnover. The ball is out of play, that's it for the Ospreys!
:09:56. > :10:03.They have taken it right at the very death. What a finale to the
:10:03. > :10:08.season! What a game! What an outcome for the Ospreys squad!
:10:08. > :10:14.outcome for the Ospreys squad! Their fourth league title. It was a
:10:14. > :10:19.very tough game. I was trying to put it away. It is commendable the
:10:19. > :10:27.way the guys played. There were opportunities, and we gave away
:10:27. > :10:36.some silly tries, a got frustrating out there at times. In fairness, we
:10:36. > :10:42.stuck at it, and we won in the 79th minute. Getting to the Grand Final,
:10:42. > :10:51.it is testament to the Ospreys, and a testament to our players. They
:10:51. > :10:56.can come from behind, they showed maturity. There are some people
:10:57. > :11:02.going into retirement, people moving on, people leaving. This is
:11:02. > :11:06.for them, and the fans. It has been an emotional week. We have some
:11:06. > :11:12.great friends leaving, going on to pastures new. We have a wonderful
:11:12. > :11:17.little winger who is retiring. It is a sad time. This is a fitting
:11:17. > :11:22.way to send them off, and something they will treasure forever. I knew
:11:22. > :11:27.this day was coming. I will miss the guys the most. They take the
:11:27. > :11:31.mickey out of me constantly. I will miss that camaraderie. I will miss
:11:31. > :11:35.that a large, but I am not going away, I will be involved with these
:11:35. > :11:40.guys. My affiliation with the Ospreys will be there until the end.
:11:40. > :11:44.I am not passing away, I'm not going anywhere, and I will enjoy
:11:44. > :11:51.their success. Plenty of emotion out on the pitch.
:11:51. > :11:55.That was a thrilling final. becomes too were brass, we will
:11:55. > :12:05.also take the mickey out of them! It was a fantastic performance by
:12:05. > :12:07.
:12:07. > :12:13.the Ospreys. -- if he comes to work for us. The Ospreys were turned
:12:13. > :12:18.over many times, there were knock- ons, handling errors, it was not a
:12:18. > :12:23.pretty performance. But they showed their character, they hung on, they
:12:23. > :12:33.sneaked a brilliant result. To do that, under the circumstances, that
:12:33. > :12:33.
:12:33. > :12:38.was phenomenal. Leinster were the European champions, they were the
:12:38. > :12:43.favourites, they caused them some problems early on. They aren't the
:12:43. > :12:53.European champions for no reason, they played really well. We were
:12:53. > :12:58.shown in the analysis what they were doing. -- we will show. This
:12:58. > :13:08.led to three points. They were very slow in picking this up. They split
:13:08. > :13:12.of the field. They were challenging for the ball, regaining possession.
:13:12. > :13:21.They were stacking the right-hand side, leading the receiver one-on-
:13:21. > :13:26.one. Hanno Dirksen should be defending. All day, they try to
:13:26. > :13:33.play the inside channel. Ultimately it paid off, a little bit
:13:33. > :13:40.fortuitous. An opportunist strike. The plan was to take them up front.
:13:41. > :13:44.They got penalties against them, two yellow cards. They were able to
:13:44. > :13:49.get their runners, Ashley Beck, and Hanno Dirksen into the game later
:13:49. > :13:53.run. Ian Evans got into the game in open space, they have been awesome
:13:53. > :14:01.in the second half of the season. Do not underestimate what Richard
:14:01. > :14:05.Fussell did here. The master finisher squeezes in. If it went to
:14:05. > :14:09.the last ten minutes, I always felt they had the firepower to get in.
:14:09. > :14:18.Who better to have ben Shane Williams? When it comes to the last
:14:18. > :14:23.Kate, Jonathan you know more about that than me. -- last kick. He has
:14:23. > :14:28.put a lot of work in. He has flourished. The slow ball does not
:14:28. > :14:35.suit him, he has that pace. Now he's getting on to the ball, he's
:14:35. > :14:44.getting runners, they are putting some wit been to the pitch. To kick
:14:45. > :14:49.that conversion was brilliant. -- width. If you don't kick those
:14:49. > :14:59.kicks, you don't remember those tries, that's as simple as that. He
:14:59. > :15:02.
:15:02. > :15:11.did a great tackle near the end as well. When I said the sea were
:15:11. > :15:18.score that -- are so NASA. When they scored from the kick-off, that
:15:18. > :15:23.should have not happened. They should also have been a penalty try.
:15:23. > :15:33.-- there should also have been. The referee should have a field of the
:15:33. > :15:33.
:15:33. > :15:42.situation, he knew that pack. They did a passive scrum, that of the
:15:42. > :15:47.initiative away. What about the penalty try? A I don't know. You
:15:47. > :15:50.see it week-in, week-out. I think Jonathan has done a great job with
:15:50. > :15:54.that front five. They have steamrollered some sides, it is
:15:54. > :15:59.very frustrating for someone like Jonathan, and the players, that
:15:59. > :16:07.they did not get their just rewards. Fortunately, it did not cost them
:16:07. > :16:13.in the end. There were eight penalties conceded. You know who is
:16:13. > :16:16.in charge of that area, you have to be in charge of that. When he gave
:16:16. > :16:22.the yellow-card, which made a passive scrum, that takes the whole
:16:22. > :16:26.initiative away from the Ospreys. They wanted a scrum, they want to
:16:26. > :16:32.get a penalty, to get into field position to force a penalty try. I
:16:32. > :16:38.think we have mentioned scrums, and the tackles this year, but I feel
:16:38. > :16:48.that the scrum has become a bit of a joke. It is such a crucial part
:16:48. > :16:48.
:16:48. > :16:57.of the game, I remember watching Leinster, and they were getting
:16:57. > :17:01.stomped on, the referee allowed it. You have to get some front row
:17:01. > :17:06.forwards in their to assess what is going on, otherwise people will
:17:06. > :17:16.just switch off. Taking nothing away from the Ospreys, they were
:17:16. > :17:17.
:17:17. > :17:21.back to the sin. -- they were Let's put this into context, it's
:17:21. > :17:24.only been in the last few months we have been talking in doom and gloom
:17:24. > :17:28.terms about the regional game and here we have the of praise beating
:17:28. > :17:35.the European champions in Dublin to win the Pro12 title. Not too bad,
:17:35. > :17:40.is it? The Ospreys have won four Celtic titles and EDF, and runners-
:17:40. > :17:44.up. We are not doing too badly. The doom and gloom has been around
:17:44. > :17:50.finance, but there are good young players coming through. A lot were
:17:50. > :17:54.on show today. Beck was outstanding. Biggar is 22. Difficult to believe
:17:54. > :17:58.he has 22. That goes for all the regions. There is a good spread of
:17:58. > :18:02.talent. All the players going to France, we have said this before,
:18:02. > :18:06.it gives the opportunity to the youngsters to perform at a regional
:18:06. > :18:09.level and I can't emphasise how important the Premiership is. There
:18:09. > :18:13.is enough talent in Wales, they have to make the Premiership a bit
:18:13. > :18:18.more competitive to make it fair for all those good coaches and all
:18:18. > :18:22.those quality players, for the next step up the regional level is not
:18:22. > :18:27.that big. We have a reduced Premiership for next season, so we
:18:27. > :18:30.will see what that does to competitiveness. Let's go to the
:18:30. > :18:35.international game and the three Tests and a series of Australia.
:18:35. > :18:38.One man hoping to make it down under his Warren Gatland, who is
:18:38. > :18:48.recuperating in New Zealand after a nasty fall that saw him broke both
:18:48. > :18:52.
:18:52. > :18:59.First of all, how is the food? is coming on really well. It is one
:18:59. > :19:08.of those injuries that Having landed on the heel, they have been
:19:08. > :19:11.stories about what happened, but I was at the beach, I climbed up to
:19:11. > :19:15.clean some windows with a brush, lost balance and fell backwards
:19:15. > :19:21.onto the concrete by the garage. It was about three metres. I landed on
:19:21. > :19:27.my heels. Initially they were going to operate but they decided not to.
:19:27. > :19:31.A couple of wires were put in mind right heel, they come out next week,
:19:31. > :19:37.in seven or eight days, and I can start using crutches. I am hoping
:19:37. > :19:41.in a few weeks after being on crutches and taking weight on my
:19:41. > :19:47.right foot, I will be mobile again, walking around. Have you got cabin
:19:47. > :19:53.fever? It has not been too bad. Luckily, when you have the laptop
:19:53. > :19:55.and keeping up to dates with what has been happening in Wales, or
:19:55. > :20:05.online and you are lucky enough with the rugby channel, you get to
:20:05. > :20:05.
:20:05. > :20:09.see rugby, I am reliant on people getting around but what my wife's
:20:09. > :20:16.friends has given me a mobility scooter. I have started taking
:20:16. > :20:21.training. I and driving around on the mobility scooter, some friends
:20:21. > :20:28.turned up with some tassels and said they wanted to dunk my
:20:29. > :20:37.mobility scooter. I'm keeping busy locally, helping the academy boys
:20:37. > :20:41.locally and the team there, instead of being asked speak to the coaches,
:20:41. > :20:45.keeping my hand in -- I am being asked to speak to coaches. It is
:20:45. > :20:50.good to be away from Wales, looking at what is done on the other side
:20:50. > :20:53.of the world, the changes in the game the training, having a really
:20:53. > :20:58.close look at Super rugby at the moment particularly with the New
:20:59. > :21:06.Zealand sides and the Australian sides, it is quite nice to have
:21:06. > :21:10.that opportunity that I don't normally get when I am in Wales.
:21:10. > :21:15.How much in but it is there from you? How often are you talking to
:21:15. > :21:19.rob and the boys? I am probably talking to Rob three or four times
:21:19. > :21:23.a week, just depending. He rang me at about ten o'clock the other
:21:23. > :21:31.night when he was walking the dog, we had a chat about things. It is
:21:31. > :21:36.probably a chance for me to listen, really, some of the things he had
:21:36. > :21:40.experienced, one or two frustrations, but you have to give
:21:40. > :21:44.them their own opportunity to make what they feel is the best
:21:44. > :21:50.decisions for the team without me having too much input. What is the
:21:50. > :21:54.plan now, the Test series coming up, are you going? Will you be here?
:21:54. > :21:58.this stage I will probably struggle to get to Brisbane for the first
:21:58. > :22:04.Test but if I can be in Melbourne for the second and third Tests
:22:04. > :22:08.cover that will be great. As much as anything, just to go and have an
:22:08. > :22:16.input but to support the court cheers and the players as much as
:22:16. > :22:23.anything. -- to support the coaches. What about lanes? I have spoken to
:22:23. > :22:27.them,. -- what about the Lions? They're waiting for assurance that
:22:27. > :22:31.the injury is going to heal and it will not be a hindrance and 12
:22:31. > :22:39.months. I can assure you I will be right in a few weeks. I will be up
:22:39. > :22:45.and running around. I think perhaps the next process is the Lions
:22:45. > :22:50.agreeing with Wales and Roger Lewis in terms of the release period and
:22:50. > :22:55.what their compensation is and when that is done, perhaps sitting down
:22:55. > :23:00.with myself and hopefully being able to agree terms in terms of
:23:00. > :23:03.time frame and whatever else. I think it has been going on for a
:23:03. > :23:09.while. I would like to think we are reasonably close but until all
:23:09. > :23:18.those things are done, nothing is final until the dotted lines have
:23:18. > :23:22.been signed. And your career as a window-cleaner?! The Queen's
:23:22. > :23:25.birthday next weekend, we will go back to the beach and I must go
:23:25. > :23:35.back to the beach and finish. By nearly finished before I fell off
:23:35. > :23:38.
:23:38. > :23:44.the deck. By well for clean a few windows next week. Know, Warren! --
:23:44. > :23:48.No.. I have been knitting as Garth for my sister, she is going to
:23:48. > :23:54.support Wales, I have been making a red scarf for her. People will be
:23:54. > :23:59.surprised about that. It is nice to get away next week for a while and
:23:59. > :24:04.put the last six or eight weeks behind me and start concentrating
:24:04. > :24:12.and thinking about getting back to Wales and rugby, particularly
:24:12. > :24:15.supporting the coach is as well. A fairly upbeat Warren Gatland,
:24:15. > :24:18.hopeful he will make it to Australia for some of the summer
:24:18. > :24:22.tour. There is the Test against the Barbarians to come first, then a
:24:22. > :24:28.trip down under for the battle of the titans. The Grand Slam
:24:28. > :24:32.champions against the Tri-Nations champions.
:24:32. > :24:36.In the helter-skelter world that is professional rugby, Wales have
:24:36. > :24:40.played an incredible 16 Tests since they faced the Barbarians last June.
:24:40. > :24:44.That includes the World Cup exploits and the Six Nations Grand
:24:44. > :24:48.Slam. There are four more to be added before the season finally
:24:48. > :24:52.ends and the successful to Mud -- summer tour to Australia what would
:24:52. > :24:56.make it a vintage year. You need confidence and self-belief. It is
:24:56. > :25:01.one thing that after the Grand Slam we are in a good place. It has
:25:01. > :25:06.flown by, the last 12 months, thinking of what has happened in up
:25:06. > :25:09.time. It has been a great ear as well. As a warm-up for what is to
:25:09. > :25:12.come down under, the Baa-Baas are back at the Millennium Stadium next
:25:12. > :25:16.weekend but they won't be facing the Welsh team that last appeared
:25:16. > :25:20.them at the end of the Six Nations. Half the Welsh squad will already
:25:20. > :25:24.be acclimatising in Brisbane but it has a chance for others to shine
:25:24. > :25:28.and press replaces -- press for places and food Rob Howley coming
:25:28. > :25:32.out of Warren Gatland's shadow it is essential to get off to a
:25:32. > :25:36.winning start. It is an important fixture in Wales' Callander,
:25:36. > :25:41.certainly ask questions of our players from a defensive aspect in
:25:41. > :25:44.particular which will be great going to Australia. The players
:25:44. > :25:48.involved in a Barbarians game, it is great for them to join the boys
:25:48. > :25:51.in Australia of the back of a win. It is always a much happier camp
:25:51. > :25:56.when you're winning. The Barbarians themselves are runners three-match
:25:56. > :26:00.tour, having played England at Twickenham today and facing Ireland
:26:00. > :26:04.on Tuesday and even though there is a throwback to amateur days in the
:26:04. > :26:09.preparation and playing philosophy, there is an emphasis on enjoyment
:26:09. > :26:14.and success. The star-studded squad includes Six Nations, Tri-Nations
:26:14. > :26:17.and even World Cup winners and with four wins in the last five meetings
:26:18. > :26:21.against Wales, it is not decide to be taken lightly. The amazing thing
:26:21. > :26:27.is you put a plate -- a group of players together and it naturally
:26:27. > :26:30.happens by itself. Hopefully that is the case and it comes out on a
:26:30. > :26:34.weekend and the amount of time, it will be a good three weeks. It will
:26:34. > :26:38.be tough, the Millennium Stadium is to have to play and when the crowd
:26:38. > :26:44.gets going, it will be a big match and I am sure there are a lot of
:26:44. > :26:48.guys up for it. We understand the Barbarians want to play a certain
:26:48. > :26:52.style of rugby and enjoy the occasion, it is finding the balance.
:26:52. > :26:57.Everyone wants to win. It is about getting out there and putting on
:26:57. > :27:01.the track. If there is a lot of familiar faces amongst the Baa-Baas,
:27:01. > :27:05.Wales will be more familiar with their Wannabe opponents. They have
:27:05. > :27:09.faced them twice in the autumn with Australia winning with Auckland and
:27:10. > :27:13.Cardiff. Now they will face them three more times in as many weeks
:27:13. > :27:18.and of Wales need any reminding us to the enormity of their tasks, the
:27:18. > :27:24.record books show Wales haven't won a Test match on Aussies soil since
:27:24. > :27:31.1969. They have the talent. A lot of players like Kurtley Beale
:27:31. > :27:37.playing at ten, you have the young blokes, they're doing fantastic
:27:37. > :27:41.things. They are being creative. are confident about the tour to
:27:41. > :27:46.Australia. We are respectful that they are one of the best teams in
:27:46. > :27:49.the world but that is the challenge we want, really. A tough challenge.
:27:49. > :27:54.It is tough but they have the balance, they have a good winning
:27:54. > :27:59.culture coming offer good Six Nations, they know each other, get
:27:59. > :28:03.down there and have a go. Two Grand Slams in five years on the World
:28:03. > :28:06.Cup semi-final and no mean credentials. But to take the next
:28:06. > :28:11.step forward Wales have to beat the southern hemisphere countries and
:28:11. > :28:16.do so in their own backyard. For true recognition a Test win is
:28:16. > :28:23.essential. A series win, now that would really make everyone sit up
:28:23. > :28:27.and take notice. I think back to the World Cup, we have 4th place,
:28:27. > :28:31.we were unbeaten against some sides. To get a series win was a massive
:28:31. > :28:35.target for us. This will be the opportunity to get that southern-
:28:35. > :28:41.hemisphere Cup they have been looking for for some time -- scalp.
:28:41. > :28:47.There are no good space. It will be the most exciting prospect for the
:28:47. > :28:50.summer tour series. If we have got anything about us winning work
:28:50. > :28:54.Rugby World Cup sand being semi- finals and finals, we have to go
:28:54. > :28:59.out and get a southern-hemisphere scout. So it all kicks off next
:28:59. > :29:02.week with a game against the barbarians. Catch all the action on
:29:02. > :29:06.Scrum V Live on BBC Two Wales. On June 9th it is the First Test
:29:06. > :29:11.against the Wallabies in Brisbane. On the 12th they take on the
:29:11. > :29:14.Brumbies in Canberra and the second and third Tests are run the 16th
:29:14. > :29:21.and 23rd in Melbourne and Sydney respectively and you can hear
:29:21. > :29:24.commentary on all the summer Tests on BBC Radio Wales and Radio Cymru.
:29:24. > :29:28.Looking at the Wales squad, other than Jamie Roberts, they have a
:29:28. > :29:33.fall, clean bill of health. Is it the strongest squad but has been
:29:33. > :29:37.sent down under? Definitely, yes. Injuries at the end of the season
:29:37. > :29:41.always plays a big part. When they come up in the autumn it is very
:29:41. > :29:47.similar. They seem to have more strength and depth than us. I do
:29:47. > :29:52.feel that now, apart from Jamie Roberts, there is a question, we