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:00:20. > :00:27.It is all about the letter W tonight, the World Cup may be over,

:00:27. > :00:31.but we have a top-class line-up. Wales will be out for revenge. We

:00:31. > :00:41.speak to a World Cup-winning coach who tells us what Wales should do

:00:41. > :00:41.

:00:41. > :00:50.next. To win the most games. have a world-class wing forward.

:00:50. > :00:54.play beside him is huge. We will be keeping an eye on him as well.

:00:54. > :01:04.Wales' win wizard joins as as he prepares for his international

:01:04. > :01:11.

:01:11. > :01:17.swansong. And we will have all the weekend's action from the pro 12.

:01:17. > :01:25.My guests are Shane Williams and Jonathan Davies. Let's start with

:01:25. > :01:35.We start with the Ospreys, who travelled to Galway last night to

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:01:39. > :01:48.referee. Taking out in the air. Gough completely missed timing his

:01:48. > :01:58.charge on Gannon. It is dangerous play. Maya Nakora tackling for the

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:02:01. > :02:09.fly-half shirt this season. He opened the scoring. The wind has

:02:09. > :02:19.proved too much. Matthew Morgan, not wanting to put boot to ball to

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:02:19. > :03:07.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 47 seconds

:03:07. > :03:17.Another penalty coming. That has gone wide. They will come back for

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:03:17. > :04:09.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 47 seconds

:04:09. > :04:15.for Nakora. Half an hour gone, the Matthew Morgan! Beautiful work by

:04:15. > :04:25.the young Ospreys half backs. Rhys Webb and Matthew Morgan combining.

:04:25. > :04:30.

:04:30. > :04:40.Morgan with his second league try when a scrappy line-out. The charge

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:05:02. > :05:08.crucial score for the Ospreys. Muldoon has given his heart and

:05:08. > :05:18.soul for the home cause. But if the Ospreys can hold out another couple

:05:18. > :05:32.

:05:32. > :05:37.a Duffy. Morgan could have been free outside. The chance still on.

:05:37. > :05:45.The Ospreys have made a complete mess of a good try scoring chance.

:05:45. > :05:48.Connacht giving the ball wide. A comedy of errors. We trained all

:05:48. > :05:58.week. We knew it would be quite windy. The weather turned over

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:05:59. > :06:05.night. Connacht are very tough team to play, especially away. We always

:06:05. > :06:10.think of Connacht as the weakest of think of Connacht as the weakest of

:06:10. > :06:14.the four Irish provinces. It is a tough place to go? It is always

:06:14. > :06:18.difficult at best Connacht. They are a bothered side, they never

:06:18. > :06:24.give up. You do not get much sunshine in Galway. Always

:06:24. > :06:30.difficult conditions. Conditions I am used to playing in it. Duncan

:06:30. > :06:39.Jones showing a good turn of pace? He is pretty sharp. He is playing

:06:39. > :06:44.some good rugby. We saw Matthew Morgan. What did you make of his

:06:44. > :06:49.performance? I think it was a good break by the scrum-half. Good

:06:50. > :06:56.support. Great balance. The conditions were dreadful. You

:06:56. > :07:01.cannot really have a game of rugby. It was a professional job well done.

:07:01. > :07:09.A very good performance. A missed opportunity at the end. It could

:07:09. > :07:14.have been even better. The 18 players either off duty. Some

:07:14. > :07:19.evidence there is some depth with the Ospreys? Yes, a lot of good

:07:19. > :07:25.players coming through in all positions. It is great to see they

:07:25. > :07:34.are getting their chances. Boys like Matthew Morgan have come

:07:34. > :07:38.through and shown that he is a class act. We have got some good

:07:38. > :07:42.boys coming through. Some good forwards, too. Some wingers coming

:07:42. > :07:52.through who will push me out as well. It is great. A bumper

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:07:57. > :08:00.programme tonight. Here is what is coming up. It is all about the

:08:00. > :08:04.letter W. The World Cup may be over, we have a world-class line-up. The

:08:04. > :08:07.Wallabies are in town and Wales will be out for revenge. We speak

:08:07. > :08:11.to a World Cup winning coach who tells us what Wales should do next.

:08:11. > :08:14.I guess the next thing is to win the close games. And we have a

:08:14. > :08:16.world-class wing forward. This will be Shane Williams's last game at

:08:16. > :08:19.the Millennium Stadium. That is used for Wales. Wales's wing wizard

:08:19. > :08:22.joins us as he prepares for his international swansong. And we will

:08:22. > :08:25.have all the weekend's action from the Pro12. The Wallabies warmed up

:08:25. > :08:27.for the forthcoming Test against Wales with a convincing 60-11

:08:27. > :08:31.victory over the Barbarians at Twickenham yesterday. I caught up

:08:31. > :08:34.with David Pocock. It will be a really big game. We were the two

:08:34. > :08:39.youngest teams at the World Cup. Hopefully we can go on for the next

:08:39. > :08:42.four years and be two of the top World Cup. It starts now. This is

:08:42. > :08:45.the opportunity to start to improve and work on things going forward.

:08:45. > :08:48.Both coaches not afraid of giving youngsters a chance? I think it is

:08:48. > :08:50.really important to have that balance between the young guys

:08:50. > :08:53.coming through, and the more experienced players. The Welsh have

:08:53. > :08:56.a few injuries leading into this game. A few players may not be

:08:56. > :08:59.available. Does that give the Wallabies a slight edge in terms of

:08:59. > :09:03.being favourites? Not at all. We have got injuries, too. A whole

:09:03. > :09:06.heap of guys who have not even come on the tour. Both teams will be up

:09:06. > :09:10.for the game. Shane Williams's last game at the Millennium Stadium.

:09:10. > :09:14.That is huge. We are aware of how much he has done for Welsh rugby.

:09:14. > :09:24.He deserves to go out with a win. So it is a big challenge for us.

:09:24. > :09:29.

:09:29. > :09:33.One we are looking forward to. It is our last game of the year.

:09:33. > :09:36.are pretty keen to end with a win. We in Wales worship the number 10

:09:36. > :09:43.jersey. The southern hemisphere probably favour the number seven

:09:43. > :09:52.more than we do? The breakdown is a huge part of the game and such a

:09:52. > :10:02.focus for the team, you have a lot more involvement in the game. We

:10:02. > :10:04.

:10:04. > :10:08.have seen guys like Richie Morkov. Another world-class No. 7 is Sam

:10:08. > :10:16.Warburton. One of his biggest regrets in the World Cup was that

:10:16. > :10:21.he did not get to go toe-to-toe against yourself. Are you looking

:10:21. > :10:25.forward to locking horns with him? It will be great. He is a very good

:10:25. > :10:34.player. As a captain, he is obviously somebody guys look to for

:10:34. > :10:40.a leadership. He is a big part of their team. James O'Connor starting

:10:40. > :10:47.at fly-half for the first time? it has put a big gap in the number

:10:47. > :10:54.10 spot. James has played a little bit in the Super Eight competitions

:10:54. > :11:00.and he has a bit of experience. The coaches are backing him this week.

:11:00. > :11:04.He looks forward to games where he is asked to step up and do more.

:11:04. > :11:11.Good luck against Wales and for the rest of the five Test series. Good

:11:11. > :11:17.to meet you. Cheers. Australians looked pretty sharp

:11:17. > :11:20.yesterday. Fairly ruthless. Put that in context. The Barbarians,

:11:20. > :11:25.some of them, their hearts were not in it towards the end of the second

:11:25. > :11:32.half? A bit demoralising towards the end. That is what Australia can

:11:32. > :11:35.do. They have a potent attacking force. Some world-class players.

:11:35. > :11:45.You have got the likes of James O'Connor, the good play and the

:11:45. > :11:46.

:11:46. > :11:49.position. They are a great team. You mentioned James O'Connor, his

:11:49. > :11:58.first start at number 10, and he looked pretty comfortable, didn't

:11:58. > :12:03.he? Yes, he has got a good kicking game. He is quite powerful as well.

:12:03. > :12:07.I would not read much into yesterday. I'm not sure how much

:12:07. > :12:12.training Australia have done since the World Cup. It is their off

:12:12. > :12:17.season. Secondly, the Barbarians did not want to tackle much. They

:12:17. > :12:27.just rolled over. As Shane said, if you do not get your defence right,

:12:27. > :12:35.they are lethal. They beat France the last couple of years by 50 odd

:12:35. > :12:40.points. They scored 40 points in the last 30 minutes. If you let

:12:40. > :12:47.them play, they can play. It will be an interesting test match next

:12:47. > :12:55.week. David Pocock verses Sam Warburton, an interesting match up?

:12:55. > :13:05.It is interesting. The backs, it all depends who their front five is.

:13:05. > :13:05.

:13:06. > :13:11.Without Adam Jones, we would have to see who does play. It might suit

:13:11. > :13:18.both sides to play looser. Then we can see Shane add some were tries

:13:18. > :13:23.to his record and finish off on a great high. I am looking forward to

:13:23. > :13:32.next week's game. Five more tries to beat David Campese. Hopefully

:13:32. > :13:36.you have got it in you for the weekend! I do not know about that!

:13:36. > :13:43.You have had plenty of magical moments over the years. How are you

:13:43. > :13:50.feeling now with a week left? nervous. I am nervous, to be fair.

:13:50. > :13:53.I am looking forward to it. It is a game I want to win with Wales. It

:13:53. > :14:01.will be nice to see where we are as aside after quite as successful

:14:01. > :14:04.World Cup. I hope we can move on. For me it will be a fantastic day.

:14:04. > :14:12.By friends and family will be there. Probably 90% of the valley there as

:14:12. > :14:17.well. I'm really excited. I cannot wait. It is not about me on the day.

:14:17. > :14:22.It is about Wales beating Australia. Hopefully I can contribute did that.

:14:22. > :14:30.Great tries. Quite a few hairstyles as well! I have had some dodgy

:14:30. > :14:36.hairstyles! They do come back and haunt you! 12 glittering years. It

:14:37. > :14:42.all began 12 years back when Graham Henry did you your first cap. He

:14:42. > :14:49.coached New Zealand to Word Cup glory. We met him last week.

:14:49. > :14:57.Congratulations on your triumph. Has it has sunk in yet? This team

:14:57. > :15:01.has been ranked No. 1 in the world for some time. It was great to be

:15:02. > :15:09.world champions at last. A lot of them put a lot of work into it. A

:15:09. > :15:16.lot of Test matches and a lot of titles. It is great that they were

:15:16. > :15:21.able to put that final hurdle to bed. You have a special bond with

:15:21. > :15:26.Wales. What did you think of their World Cup? There are good players

:15:26. > :15:35.coming through which is impressive. The challenges are to win those

:15:35. > :15:38.place games more often than they lose them. And often they become

:15:38. > :15:48.brittle if they lose a couple of players, so keep those young

:15:48. > :15:50.

:15:50. > :15:55.players coming through. You know the atmosphere created in the

:15:55. > :16:04.Millennium Stadium. How special do you think it will be that Shane has

:16:04. > :16:10.hung on for one last game? All the fans will be there to pay tribute

:16:10. > :16:16.to him. I think it is great and he deserves that. He is probably a

:16:16. > :16:20.number one player in Wales for some time. He has been consistently

:16:20. > :16:27.world-class. They look to him to do something special, and often he

:16:27. > :16:31.does that. And if you wanted to give him a message of good luck,

:16:31. > :16:40.what would you tell him? Get up there and enjoy the occasion and

:16:40. > :16:45.score a couple of tries, hopefully. What about yourself, you have won

:16:45. > :16:51.the Holy Grail, you are a World Cup winner. Is there anything left for

:16:51. > :17:01.due to achieve in rugby? There are some things I would still like to

:17:01. > :17:01.

:17:01. > :17:07.do. I am not sure if I touched a nerve there but he was a bit

:17:07. > :17:14.perfunctory. Anything to hide? The first thing to do is get a smile on

:17:14. > :17:23.his face! He has achieved the Holy Grail. That was a weight around the

:17:23. > :17:33.country's neck. They got a win against France. Any job that comes

:17:33. > :17:35.

:17:35. > :17:41.up now, his name will be linked to it. I think he should just enjoy

:17:41. > :17:48.himself, Basque in the glory of being a World Cup winning coach.

:17:48. > :17:52.I'm sure he will have offered to do a lot of different things. He has

:17:52. > :17:57.been the subject of a number of rumours. Cardiff Blues is one

:17:57. > :18:05.rumour, squashed by their chairman. But looking at the RFU, there is a

:18:06. > :18:14.lot of turmoil there. I think it is at rock bottom, it could not get

:18:14. > :18:18.any worse. I think these anonymous reports are a waste of time. You

:18:18. > :18:28.just get into the changing room and sort it out. Because the things

:18:28. > :18:29.

:18:29. > :18:33.that people are saying, it is not people who are in the starting 15.

:18:33. > :18:38.To do that, and drag it further down, I just feel sorry for the

:18:38. > :18:45.whole set-up. And in particular Martin Johnson that really is a

:18:45. > :18:50.good bloke. What about Jake White, the latest man to express an

:18:50. > :18:56.interest. He did not say for sure but I got the impression that she

:18:56. > :19:03.could be interested? Whelk he wins the World Cup and then where does

:19:03. > :19:10.he go? We have not seen him. It will be very interesting. Other

:19:10. > :19:15.names have been mentioned. John Kirwan is finishing in Japan. You

:19:15. > :19:18.have to have a bit of continuity. And it showed that with Wales in

:19:18. > :19:25.the World Cup, they were comfortable with the players and

:19:25. > :19:28.the management. It does take time to develop and grow. It is sad that

:19:28. > :19:35.it has happened but it has tracked the game of rugby into the

:19:35. > :19:41.headlines for the wrong reasons. People start questioning the ethics

:19:41. > :19:49.and the morals of rugby. It is very sad and I hope it is cleared up as

:19:49. > :19:59.soon as possible. Well that's returned now to pro 12 action. We

:19:59. > :20:11.

:20:11. > :20:21.start with East against West, the a great tackle. Were the feet over

:20:21. > :20:21.

:20:21. > :21:04.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 47 seconds

:21:04. > :21:14.penalty? That did bounce up in his table has turned on the Dragons

:21:14. > :21:47.

:21:47. > :21:57.will be the yellow card. I bet it will be number seven. No. 8, Tom

:21:57. > :21:57.

:21:57. > :22:45.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 47 seconds

:22:45. > :22:55.taken away from them now? Jones keeps up his 100% kicking for the

:22:55. > :22:59.

:22:59. > :23:09.was going to be. They are a good side and that is why the game was

:23:09. > :23:09.

:23:09. > :24:13.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 47 seconds

:24:13. > :24:23.not as open as we would have liked run in for the winner. A third try

:24:23. > :24:39.

:24:39. > :24:49.the referee. And here is Sweeney to put the tin hat on it for the Blues.

:24:49. > :25:03.

:25:03. > :25:10.No problem. So a round-up of the Victory over Ulster. How does that

:25:10. > :25:20.leave the table? The Ospreys reclaimed the victory with their

:25:20. > :25:27.

:25:27. > :25:37.They were pretty clinical in the second half. They got the bonus

:25:37. > :25:37.

:25:37. > :25:43.point. So you could not ask for anything else. In the second half,

:25:43. > :25:49.the Italians did not want to be there. They did cut loose in that

:25:49. > :25:57.second half. They could have been a lot more in the first half as well.

:25:57. > :26:05.The Italians' discipline was quite poor. They just looked tired in the

:26:05. > :26:11.second half. But they got the full bonus points in the end and it was

:26:11. > :26:20.a good win. The referees were talking about their frustration at

:26:20. > :26:30.the way the breakdown and was are refereed. If you watched the

:26:30. > :26:30.

:26:30. > :26:35.Scarlets, they did not contribute to the ruck. They did not have that

:26:35. > :26:38.cutting edge to put the Scarlets away. That was their downfall.

:26:38. > :26:45.Because one opportunity, Stephen Jones and kicked magnificently all

:26:45. > :26:52.night. It is so difficult now which still ball, if it is not refereed

:26:52. > :27:02.properly, it will be a slow and boring game. Because the defence is

:27:02. > :27:11.

:27:11. > :27:19.so far these days. We should see players aving the space to run into

:27:19. > :27:29.it. Let's go now to the Premiership. The teams that have been told they

:27:29. > :27:30.

:27:30. > :27:39.were axed from the new Premiership have been reinstated. There has

:27:39. > :27:42.been some great news at the Brewery Field in the past 24 hours. The

:27:42. > :27:52.Welsh Union has agreed in principle to upgrade the Premiership from 10

:27:52. > :28:01.

:28:01. > :28:03.to 12 clubs to include Bridgend. to 12 clubs to include Bridgend.

:28:03. > :28:07.There has been tremendous spirit. We have had a lot of

:28:07. > :28:14.congratulations as well. It is wonderful news for the area and

:28:14. > :28:23.well deserved. It is a historic club. These clubs have been in

:28:23. > :28:30.existence for a long time. We are delighted. Bridgend is a massive

:28:30. > :28:36.place for Welsh rugby. So we can now plan going forward for next

:28:36. > :28:40.season and the season after. Ospreys have backed us all awake.

:28:40. > :28:44.We're grateful to them and for so many other people for having got us

:28:44. > :28:54.back into this position. We are delighted, it just had to happen

:28:54. > :28:55.

:28:55. > :29:02.for the area. It is excellent. hope we can do it proud now. We are

:29:02. > :29:07.a great club and we are going to be again. Fantastic. This is

:29:07. > :29:17.unbelievable. All our Christmases have come at once. So great news

:29:17. > :29:17.

:29:17. > :30:08.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 47 seconds

:30:08. > :30:18.fist? What is the referee going to do? Yellow-card firm Murphy and

:30:18. > :30:48.

:30:48. > :30:53.any room to run. Ross Jones. Morgan could not control it. Aberavon are

:30:53. > :30:58.and great side. They are always competitive in this lead. We're

:30:58. > :31:03.pleased with the effort. Good to see the crowd supporting you after

:31:04. > :31:13.some great news from the union last night? Yes, great news. The boys

:31:14. > :31:32.

:31:32. > :31:37.That result means Aberavon remain As we have been discussing, Shane

:31:37. > :31:42.Williams's 12 year international career is about to come to an end.

:31:42. > :31:45.Back to where it all started. When used stand at the top of the

:31:45. > :31:52.Swansea Valley, it is striking to consider how many great players

:31:52. > :32:02.have come from here. Robert Jones, Rollins, and back there, Gareth

:32:02. > :32:02.

:32:02. > :32:12.Edwards. I am going to take a stroll down the hill to the home of

:32:12. > :32:18.

:32:18. > :32:23.Shane Williams, what does he mean to your club? Fantastic. He is an

:32:23. > :32:31.ambassador for the club and the village. To have a world player of

:32:31. > :32:37.the year coming through our ranks is absolutely fantastic. His

:32:37. > :32:42.brother and sister involved in the Shane, when he has got some free

:32:42. > :32:48.time, he has done training with the boys. He is very much like one of

:32:48. > :32:57.the boys. Were you worried about him? Everybody always goes on about

:32:57. > :33:05.how he is little. He was very small when he was playing in the under

:33:05. > :33:10.16s. Did you always see something special in him? He had plenty of

:33:10. > :33:20.guts. He was not afraid of nobody. Can you pick out a moment when you

:33:20. > :33:24.

:33:24. > :33:28.felt was a special moment? first game for Wales. Emotional.

:33:28. > :33:38.lived at the bottom end of the village. That is where it all

:33:38. > :33:39.

:33:39. > :33:49.started. When he played he was absolutely sensational.

:33:49. > :33:51.

:33:51. > :33:54.important is the to this club? He does a lot. He comes training on

:33:54. > :33:59.Thursday is what the boys when he is not training himself. He gives

:33:59. > :34:04.us inside tips on how to improve Darfur game. You are rather fond of

:34:04. > :34:13.this place as well? It is a great place. It might not look it today.

:34:13. > :34:17.It has always been where I have lived. Everybody is kind of hoping

:34:17. > :34:22.here that this may not be the end of your career that you may ring

:34:22. > :34:29.had one season here playing for the amateurs. Is that a possibility?

:34:29. > :34:33.have made the promise after a few pints! I love playing rugby. I did

:34:33. > :34:41.not care on a Saturday morning which TMi was playing for. I will

:34:41. > :34:46.be willing. Who knows? I cannot think what I will do with myself on

:34:46. > :34:49.a Saturday afternoon. For Wales fans it is difficult to come to

:34:49. > :34:52.terms with the fact that Shane Williams will run out for the last

:34:52. > :34:58.time in a red jersey next Saturday, bringing the curtain down on

:34:58. > :35:05.incredible international career. He will live on in our memories and in

:35:05. > :35:10.our hearts as a true legend of Welsh rugby.

:35:10. > :35:16.Shane, I was going to ask you what is next. It sounds as if you have

:35:16. > :35:20.committed your future? There was a verbal agreement, unfortunately.

:35:20. > :35:24.Coming up, the final game against Australia. You mentioned earlier or

:35:25. > :35:30.how you had no doubt. I guess the emotions are beginning to rise to

:35:30. > :35:33.the surface now? Of course. The closer it gets to the game now, the

:35:33. > :35:39.more excited I am getting. First and foremost, it is about winning

:35:39. > :35:43.the game. It is not Shane Williams versus Australia. It is Wales. I

:35:43. > :35:48.will give it my utmost to be part of it and contribute to it. The

:35:48. > :35:54.emotional side, it will be a great day. My family and friends will be

:35:54. > :36:03.there. Family I did not know why had are coming on Saturday. I hope

:36:03. > :36:09.I can play well and finished on a high note. It is still a Test match

:36:09. > :36:14.and the revenge match after the World Cup? Yes, it is. But it is a

:36:14. > :36:17.special occasion. I know he will try to play it down. I have been

:36:17. > :36:24.very lucky that sense I have been broadcasting there have been great

:36:24. > :36:34.times. Shane has been a shining light. When I have watched Wales,

:36:34. > :36:39.he has given us all such pleasurable moments. I hope they do

:36:39. > :36:48.win and I hope these cause a few tries. When it's time to hang your

:36:48. > :36:53.boots up, you know it is the right time. I wasn't the best the block

:36:53. > :36:57.what every does. As long as it does not try to get my job! We saw them

:36:57. > :37:04.at Twickenham yesterday. They looked very sharp indeed. What sort

:37:04. > :37:09.of opposition do you expect to face? They play expansive rugby.

:37:09. > :37:14.They have got players like Pocock were deadly without the ball. The

:37:14. > :37:19.amount of turn overs he creates is incredible. An Australian team with

:37:20. > :37:27.turnover ball is deadly. They are one of the best in the world. Very

:37:27. > :37:37.physical. You see the flamboyance they have got. But they're very

:37:37. > :37:39.

:37:39. > :37:43.physical with it. All-round they are a great side. They can play