Episode 11

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:00:20. > :00:26.What a difference a demands makes. In the Six Nations it was brave

:00:26. > :00:32.five, won 5. Wales steamrollered their way to the Grand Slam. But in

:00:32. > :00:36.the summer, they lost their mojo down under. Playing three, lost

:00:36. > :00:42.three. And in the autumn, the misery continued with the first

:00:42. > :00:52.ever series whitewash. From feasted to famine, Boom to asked, and it

:00:52. > :00:58.

:00:58. > :01:03.all finished with a sickening dose Hello, good evening and welcome to

:01:03. > :01:08.Scrum V. Once again, it is heartbreak at the death for Wales

:01:08. > :01:11.as the Wallabies' never-say-die spirit prevails once more. We have

:01:11. > :01:21.a panel here to offer their thoughts on the autumn series but

:01:21. > :01:28.

:01:28. > :01:38.let's start with a look back at see what Wales can do off good

:01:38. > :01:49.

:01:49. > :01:57.And then to Drew Mitchell. But that won't do. It won't do priest and's

:01:57. > :02:07.confidence any good. No. Priestland's confidence. He will be

:02:07. > :02:10.cursing now because that was a very unpopular one to be put away. Two

:02:10. > :02:20.people carry into the miss and there you are. No excuse missing

:02:20. > :02:35.

:02:35. > :02:39.way! And he has the pace to go past one... Then on the outside and in

:02:39. > :02:49.touch but that will get the crowd going, that will get a player is

:02:49. > :02:54.going! You are absolutely right. A tremendously brave piece of play.

:02:54. > :03:04.But some naivety in the end. Because Australia were all over the

:03:04. > :03:21.

:03:21. > :03:31.of numbers on the far side but now we are back into the more open

:03:31. > :03:31.

:03:31. > :05:09.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 97 seconds

:05:09. > :05:19.makes that. Advantage now being and Wales goes into the lead. A

:05:19. > :05:37.

:05:37. > :05:47.90 Chipstead and charges off himself. -- he chips ahead. Can we

:05:47. > :06:08.

:06:08. > :06:16.Halfpenny, Botham bowled that the having been at the front of the

:06:16. > :06:26.ball. Well, that is just too dull. A very simple remedy, you make sure

:06:26. > :06:58.

:06:58. > :07:08.you are not within 10 and you get stays in field, though. Adam Xingu,

:07:08. > :07:10.

:07:10. > :07:20.another Scarlet... -- Aaron Shingler. More incisive by Wales.

:07:20. > :07:20.

:07:20. > :08:16.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 97 seconds

:08:16. > :08:22.But it doesn't come back the situation. And a good angle

:08:22. > :08:28.from Drew Mitchell. Tackle by Leigh Halfpenny. Ryan Jones back there as

:08:28. > :08:38.well, but Australia looking dangerous. An accomplished finisher

:08:38. > :08:45.

:08:45. > :08:55.has worked for Jonathan Davies. And Pocock... -- got back to make the

:08:55. > :09:09.

:09:09. > :09:18.variations of Rhys Priestland today. Far better than we think we have

:09:18. > :09:28.seen him recently. And this is Mike Phillips. Into the midfield. Good,

:09:28. > :09:49.

:09:49. > :09:59.three out of four and we are all couldn't find touch last week and

:09:59. > :10:18.

:10:18. > :10:23.now... Now he is. Last week, penalty against the captain.

:10:23. > :10:28.Priestland suddenly floods this side... Good strength by Cuthbert.

:10:28. > :10:35.Bounces off but he is on his own. And we'll go back to the original

:10:35. > :10:45.penalty. Nathan Sharpe, the captain there on the floor, the captain of

:10:45. > :11:02.

:11:02. > :11:06.Australia. Number five. On the hour Leigh Halfpenny got there first.

:11:06. > :11:14.Not only a great player but he was very brave as well. And I don't

:11:14. > :11:19.blame him for that. Very dangerous. The supporting players have got to

:11:19. > :11:29.get there. He had the pace, fully committed, didn't shirk it.

:11:29. > :11:30.

:11:30. > :11:36.Everybody has had to getting there. -- get in. And he is clean through.

:11:36. > :11:43.Great support by Leigh Halfpenny. The ball is there and Wales swoop

:11:43. > :11:53.down on it. Is this the moment for them to Filey Brigg again to bed? -

:11:53. > :12:02.

:12:02. > :12:09.- finally put the game. And with less than a minute to go on

:12:09. > :12:19.the regular clock. Well, they have to keep their discipline. Don't

:12:19. > :12:21.

:12:21. > :12:31.play the Australian yacht, don't put your hand in. -- yard. Oh, it

:12:31. > :12:34.

:12:34. > :12:40.has got to be the try for a Wales. When the game was going to be won,

:12:40. > :12:50.it has gone back to Australia. What's more, we have Leigh

:12:50. > :12:51.

:12:51. > :12:57.Halfpenny, I think, injured there. He doesn't look good either. Leigh

:12:57. > :13:02.Halfpenny leaves the field and it won't be long before the Welsh

:13:02. > :13:12.players trooped off after him, having lost the 4th game in their

:13:12. > :13:12.

:13:12. > :13:16.Just really hard. Disappointment with the last minute. They turned

:13:16. > :13:22.over from the line and then we had a scrum and they never should have

:13:22. > :13:28.got out of there. You have just got to take your risk and allow them to

:13:28. > :13:33.get 30, 40 metres up the touchline. We got too narrow and unfortunately

:13:33. > :13:37.they got the try. Devastated. Because that defence was

:13:37. > :13:44.outstanding through the period. Butter unfortunately, at the last

:13:44. > :13:48.scrum I thought it was too passive or stop -- but unfortunately. I

:13:48. > :13:52.thought we should have been up there blitzing, but in Australia

:13:52. > :13:56.under more pressure because the fellows have been absolutely

:13:56. > :14:00.magnificent through the 78 minutes up to that point. Credit to the

:14:00. > :14:05.lads, you know. They kept looking for a way to get through.

:14:05. > :14:08.Unfortunately, we did not find it on the day. I have got the utmost

:14:08. > :14:13.admiration for them just been in the game in the end, to be frank.

:14:13. > :14:18.And they deserve a break. They have got that coming so they're pretty

:14:18. > :14:24.excited about that. Same old story. We had a golden opportunity there...

:14:24. > :14:29.And we have blown it. Credit Australia. Certainly defensively we

:14:29. > :14:33.just switch off. Especially in the last minute, and it has cost us the

:14:33. > :14:38.Test Match century and what was a very important game. Probably the

:14:38. > :14:45.hardest to feed. Hardest I have had to take in my career. -- hardest

:14:45. > :14:48.defeat. We turned up four weeks in a row and it has been a tough time

:14:48. > :14:53.for the fans as well as the players, the families. We fell like it was

:14:53. > :15:03.the day to get a win. It would have been a great weight when the

:15:03. > :15:05.

:15:05. > :15:09.Leigh Halfpenny was Cattistock -- discharged from hospital this

:15:09. > :15:18.morning. Very relieved to say he has not suffered any serious

:15:18. > :15:22.injuries. Before we get stuck into yesterday's game, let us put that

:15:22. > :15:27.to feed into context. That loss to feed into context. That loss

:15:27. > :15:31.means Wales are ninth in the world rankings. That means they will be

:15:31. > :15:37.in the third here of seeds alongside Scotland, and the draw

:15:37. > :15:43.alongside Scotland, and the draw takes place tomorrow at 3pm. The

:15:43. > :15:52.fact is, hypothetically, Wales can now be in a poor with England and

:15:52. > :15:57.New Zealand. A nightmare scenario? You, it is. But now all, they find

:15:57. > :16:06.themselves in ninth, and the nightmare scenario. To put into

:16:06. > :16:13.perspective, it is still three years away. But it is disappointing

:16:13. > :16:18.to finish in that second tie-up. The irony is, at this did not need

:16:18. > :16:27.to be staged. Have not played a comic we would be safely in the top

:16:27. > :16:34.eight! Yes, but that is by the by. We know the ramifications. The

:16:34. > :16:39.bottom line is we get to where we get. We could get Samoa-Argentina.

:16:39. > :16:45.The worry is if we play England. Let us move on to the game. As we

:16:45. > :16:52.have seen so many times before, a last gasp victory against the

:16:52. > :16:57.Wallabies becoming our nemesis. What the autumn international

:16:57. > :17:02.series has done, especially the first two games, it has drained us

:17:02. > :17:06.all of self-confidence, self-belief, that we gained during the World Cup.

:17:06. > :17:12.It was enhanced during the Six It was enhanced during the Six

:17:12. > :17:18.Nations. We had to two minutes to go. We got Australia exacted by we

:17:18. > :17:24.wanted them. Five metres from their own line. Our defensive line is

:17:24. > :17:29.poor, certainly the pressure we put on Australia is poor. We gave them

:17:29. > :17:39.a 30 meet her opportunity to gain momentum. We turned the ball over,

:17:39. > :17:39.

:17:39. > :17:43.46 seconds to go. It is not a bad kick, but 46 seconds is an

:17:43. > :17:50.opportunity we should be able to keep the ball. We did against

:17:50. > :17:54.Ireland last year. But ultimately, kicking the ball away has given

:17:54. > :17:56.Australia the opportunity to score the try, the winning try. There

:17:56. > :18:02.the try, the winning try. There were a number of opportunities we

:18:02. > :18:06.did not take, and you can talk about naivety and composure. It is

:18:06. > :18:11.just a lack of confidence. We were panicking in those last couple of

:18:11. > :18:15.minutes, when we should have sat back, looked at where we were and

:18:15. > :18:21.how old were needed to pen them into that 22 metre area. We have

:18:21. > :18:27.talked about some of Wales's deficiencies. Failure to take

:18:27. > :18:34.opportunities has been chief. We scored three Chas -- tries in total

:18:34. > :18:40.as opposed to 10. One was an interception try, and the other was

:18:40. > :18:44.five metres out. We have had a game-plan there has been effective.

:18:44. > :18:48.It has been effective because there has been physical and wearing down

:18:48. > :18:52.opponents, but it has taken its opponents, but it has taken its

:18:52. > :18:59.toll. I had a little look at the footage from yesterday. Our

:18:59. > :19:05.forwards do not seem to pass. The outside backs are not interested.

:19:05. > :19:15.Three or four Welsh guys. Daborn time and time again. It was nice to

:19:15. > :19:15.

:19:15. > :19:25.see, from be sidelined. A good, flat ball, all those gold shirts

:19:25. > :19:29.that out, isolating two defenders at the top. The body language of

:19:30. > :19:39.Rhys Priestland says that his one chance gone. We are pulling it back

:19:39. > :19:43.and a very deep. We go back inside. Defences are getting a key. We need

:19:43. > :19:51.to exhaust the width of the field, going down this corridor. But again,

:19:51. > :19:55.the shirts are in place and they do not commit any defenders. Too often,

:19:55. > :20:01.the forwards get smashed by the southern hemisphere. Look where

:20:01. > :20:06.this ends up. Here, pretty much of our players in this area. Lacking

:20:06. > :20:11.in confidence. We do not really have a platform. We lost six line-

:20:11. > :20:17.outs yesterday, but we are also lacking in territory stats. We

:20:18. > :20:25.don't win the ball. Credit to Rhys Priestland - chastise last week,

:20:25. > :20:28.but he makes said. Nice and director. This is what we are used

:20:28. > :20:34.director. This is what we are used to seeing. Get us into the

:20:34. > :20:39.territory and get suss the penalty. Ending on positive - plenty more

:20:39. > :20:44.positive to be drawn. We could be talking about to victory against

:20:44. > :20:47.the second best side in the world. I think so. We should have won the

:20:47. > :20:53.I think so. We should have won the game. The effort is tremendous. We

:20:53. > :20:59.have raised the game. What was pleasing to see was some heads up

:20:59. > :21:07.rugby being played. There you go. They identified the Australian

:21:07. > :21:10.defence was really tight. Halfpenny cut same, and away we go. Rhys

:21:10. > :21:15.Priestland playing heads up. They have done their homework on the

:21:15. > :21:18.Aussies, and get going forward again. Good to see Priestland,

:21:18. > :21:26.again. Good to see Priestland, passing the ball, put in the likes

:21:26. > :21:32.of Cup bird in his place. We can play well, we have good players.

:21:32. > :21:37.But all of those attacks are from very deep. There is a lot more

:21:38. > :21:43.variety to a game than in previous games. We are easily read. In the

:21:43. > :21:49.first two tier -- games, the sides did their homework. But there was a

:21:49. > :21:53.change. As a result, we created more. We perhaps kicked a bit too

:21:53. > :21:59.much ball away, but certainly, in terms of where we were, and where

:21:59. > :22:05.we ended up, fast difference. talked about positives. One a

:22:05. > :22:10.shining beacon, man of the match, Leigh Halfpenny. He has been

:22:10. > :22:14.fantastic, hasn't he? Are probably the smallest man and the Welsh side.

:22:14. > :22:22.the smallest man and the Welsh side. His goal-kicking is exceptional.

:22:22. > :22:26.But it is his desire and commitment. His commitment to the bread at

:22:26. > :22:30.Jersey is second to none. His desire to do his best for his

:22:30. > :22:34.country, every time he puts on that red jersey, not the best of tackle

:22:34. > :22:38.red jersey, not the best of tackle techniques. They ended up going to

:22:38. > :22:43.hospital as a result, but no one has done more for Wales in terms of

:22:43. > :22:53.commitment. And there are guys twice his size who had that same

:22:53. > :22:53.

:22:53. > :22:59.desire commitment would have won. nasty injury, as we mentioned. But

:22:59. > :23:05.Wales have been ravaged by injuries. The positive is that they can step

:23:05. > :23:11.up and make an impact. Who has taken it? It has been well

:23:11. > :23:19.publicised. Two boys and - Scott Andrews and Liam Williams have been

:23:19. > :23:21.outstanding. Just a few clips. He is one of the few forwards

:23:21. > :23:28.is one of the few forwards comfortable with the ball in his

:23:28. > :23:33.hands. Just by fixing the defender there, look how quickest bowlers.

:23:33. > :23:38.He brought a different dimension yesterday. His anticipation is top

:23:38. > :23:43.drawer as well. Yesterday, his scrum was good. And Liam Williams

:23:43. > :23:46.is fast becoming a cult hero in Wales. He is playing on the left-

:23:46. > :23:56.wing, total disregard for his own wing, total disregard for his own

:23:56. > :24:06.safety, emigrate kicker. He is more old-school rugby player. He has

:24:06. > :24:10.been brilliant. He is fast becoming a favourite. As a player who has

:24:10. > :24:16.left this environment, six times we have played Australia in the last

:24:16. > :24:20.13 months. The last three have been lost by an aggregate of five points,

:24:20. > :24:26.showing there is nothing to choose between Wales and Australia. Is at

:24:26. > :24:34.a mental thing? I do not think it is a mental stumbling block. I

:24:34. > :24:42.think it is just Shaun Edwards spoke about it, decision making.

:24:42. > :24:48.Still a young side. You have got to give credit to Australia - they

:24:48. > :24:58.still believe they can win the game. We have done a in the Six Nations

:24:58. > :25:04.to other side, England and Ireland in particular. We need to be given

:25:04. > :25:10.a lesson at around the tackle area. Those players make good decisions.

:25:10. > :25:15.They do not commit too much. We seem to over commit. Big lessons to

:25:15. > :25:24.learn there. If you thought there was drama at the Millennium Stadium,

:25:25. > :25:29.it was nothing compared to what was England have not be to New Zealand

:25:29. > :25:37.for almost a decade, and after a disappointing autumn a victory

:25:37. > :25:44.looked unlikely. The All Blacks had enjoyed a 20 match winning streak.

:25:44. > :25:46.Owen Farrell gave the home team a 15 point cushion. But the All

:25:46. > :25:56.15 point cushion. But the All Blacks are not a team who give up

:25:56. > :26:21.

:26:21. > :26:25.Blacks side if you missed it tackles, but Cory Jane is is still

:26:26. > :26:35.going. And the second a try for the All Blacks. It is Kieran Read to

:26:36. > :26:36.

:26:36. > :27:47.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 97 seconds

:27:47. > :27:50.Similarly powerful Figo on the victory for England. This tour for

:27:50. > :27:56.New Zealand was not supposed to end this way, but what a victory for

:27:56. > :28:06.England! Perhaps, the greatest win for England in recent times because

:28:06. > :28:13.

:28:13. > :28:18.Her no one saw that coming. How did England do that? They squeezed it.

:28:18. > :28:25.They are provided Ilott of forwards, they were very physical with the

:28:25. > :28:33.All Blacks. England have a set piece. Owen Farrell kicked his

:28:33. > :28:42.goals, took his opportunities, very Jonny Wilkinson like. The chariot

:28:42. > :28:48.kept rolling! Obviously, a long, hard year for the All Blacks. But a

:28:48. > :28:56.great win. Prior to this, people were saying this All Blacks side is

:28:56. > :29:00.the best side in the world. Do they need to reassess that? England were

:29:00. > :29:06.outstanding, in fairness. It gives everybody a little bit of hope that

:29:06. > :29:10.we are not so far behind. The Welsh boys know they can beat England.

:29:10. > :29:17.does this mean that England and other favourites for the Six

:29:17. > :29:21.Nations? You need to put France up there as well. The autumn has shown

:29:21. > :29:24.how strong the northern hemisphere can be - France, very good

:29:24. > :29:31.victories against Australia. England have built up slowly to

:29:31. > :29:35.their victory. Ireland as well. They beat Argentina comfortably.

:29:35. > :29:39.Three sides there playing particularly well. France, not just

:29:39. > :29:44.about their international side, it is their club side as well. Home

:29:44. > :29:54.and Away, slightly different to the past. France will be the site to

:29:54. > :30:06.

:30:06. > :30:16.Let's switch our attention to the low-key dog -- low-key derby on

:30:16. > :30:21.

:30:21. > :30:30.Good line-out work and nicely caught up. A very well worked try

:30:30. > :30:38.from James King. In trouble a couple of times in the first half

:30:38. > :30:45.and he has made way for the Frenchman. He looked as though he

:30:45. > :30:55.would take it but one of his own players was in the way. And what a

:30:55. > :30:58.

:30:58. > :31:05.start to the second half by the that is a sucker punch right at the

:31:05. > :31:08.end for the Blues. That is the killer blow!

:31:09. > :31:18.The Dragons found trouble into reserve. Despite taking an early

:31:19. > :31:19.

:31:19. > :31:29.lead, they fell to this try. A word was had with the goalie after

:31:29. > :31:35.

:31:35. > :31:45.before the break with simple handling allowing you can clean to

:31:45. > :31:46.

:31:47. > :31:55.squeeze in at the flag. -- Luke at McLean. The Dragons were defending

:31:55. > :32:05.a breakdown Mica guard dog with dentures. -- like a guard dog. The

:32:05. > :32:12.

:32:12. > :32:22.was sent off for two yellow-card, and went from bad to even worse, as

:32:22. > :32:23.

:32:23. > :32:26.Treviso capitalised on their advantage. This, a great solo score.

:32:26. > :32:36.The big game of the Pro 12 weekend took place this afternoon as

:32:36. > :32:43.

:32:43. > :32:48.Ooh! Interception! And he is a way! He won't be caught!

:32:48. > :32:52.The rest was a kicking brawl between Paddy Jackson and the

:32:52. > :33:02.Scarlets Alan Thomas, who have this one it as great a losing bonus

:33:02. > :33:09.

:33:09. > :33:19.Hu to end the match. Despite the defeat, the Scarlets

:33:19. > :33:29.

:33:29. > :33:33.between Treviso and Dragons for the final Heineken place was -- place.

:33:33. > :33:40.Eddie Butler has had a look back now are the last month to try to

:33:40. > :33:44.put things in some kind of It is good to have referred for a

:33:44. > :33:48.head when the weather is this bad but at some stage, this one of the

:33:48. > :33:53.post-industrial age, the roof, was drawn into the debate about the

:33:53. > :33:59.trouble below. Down there on the field. At the realities of post-

:33:59. > :34:01.industrial Welsh rugby. Was the strain, the financial burden, of

:34:01. > :34:11.building the Millennium Stadium finally telling on the professional

:34:11. > :34:15.game in Wales? It turned into a turbulent November outside and in.

:34:15. > :34:20.Argentina arrived as the newcomers to the Rugby Championship. And

:34:20. > :34:26.suddenly the heady days of Wales at the World Cup and glory days of the

:34:26. > :34:30.Grand Slam in the Six Nations were distant memories. A second problem

:34:30. > :34:33.with the Millennium Stadium. It is not so much an impregnable fortress

:34:33. > :34:42.as a theme park. Everybody loves coming here, to play and have a

:34:42. > :34:45.good time. The Argentinians certainly did. And Samoa did. It

:34:45. > :34:51.wasn't the first time they had enjoyed themselves in Cardiff. But

:34:51. > :34:55.never before had these devils of direct action and open played found

:34:55. > :35:00.themselves so Supreme at the set- piece. They knocked Wales about in

:35:00. > :35:06.usual places and, as usual, not always in the best possible taste.

:35:06. > :35:10.But they also knocked them backwards here. Which really hurt.

:35:10. > :35:15.Some are, like Argentina, picked from players scattered around the

:35:15. > :35:18.world. Wales want to keep Welsh players close to home. This was a

:35:18. > :35:23.victory, a second victory, for teams who have adapted to the

:35:23. > :35:27.global spread. The global spread of their players. At least the All

:35:27. > :35:34.Blacks insist on picking players based in New Zealand. Some of her

:35:34. > :35:39.new rituals retain their charm. But it seems the last line may have

:35:39. > :35:42.wound up their warriors a bit too tight. Slit throat here and it is

:35:43. > :35:46.not surprising you are maybe clubbing out seconds later. Another

:35:46. > :35:50.side to the All Blacks and when they are playing like this, there

:35:50. > :35:54.is no other side to the game. Give them an inch and they will take the

:35:54. > :36:00.rest of the field. Give them a gap and they will crowbar your heart

:36:00. > :36:05.out. New Zealand's intentions - crystal-clear. Wales'' - blurred,

:36:05. > :36:11.imprecise. It was a pain for autumn. But in the deepest reaches of the

:36:11. > :36:16.gloom, a light flickered. A giant line-out formed, a second try was

:36:16. > :36:20.engineered, patiently, inventively. And if the Messiah had not exactly

:36:20. > :36:24.been able to perform a miracle, then at least there was hope that

:36:24. > :36:30.the dam, horrid month of November might lead to a December day to

:36:30. > :36:34.remember. -- the damp. For a glorious moment it seemed it might

:36:34. > :36:41.be. The Cuthbert breakout, like the Escape from Alcatraz! Prisoner

:36:41. > :36:47.caught! Might it be a... Might it be! Not by that kicking. But then

:36:47. > :36:51.by this. Wales was in front and defending fall they were. But here

:36:51. > :36:59.we come back to the question - under our great roof, what are we

:36:59. > :37:04.worth? We are in pain on the field. On the floor. We are in pain,

:37:04. > :37:10.relegated to the third tier of the World games. We are in financial

:37:10. > :37:14.pain. Where are you now, Grand Slam days, the great blue skies of

:37:14. > :37:23.achievements past? On the other side of the sacred roof over our

:37:23. > :37:27.Well, that was Warren Gatland's last game for Wales before he does

:37:27. > :37:31.full-time with the Lions. You know him well. After the manner of that

:37:31. > :37:35.defeat and we talked about them until he Cup at the end of the game,

:37:35. > :37:38.will he show any loyalty to his Welsh players, given that the

:37:38. > :37:41.opponents for the Lions are Australia? I do not think it is a

:37:41. > :37:48.case of loyalty. He has a job for the Lions and he was picked purely

:37:48. > :37:53.on form. You look at Six Nations, I don't know if it will be failure,

:37:53. > :37:57.relevant. On his track record he has been brilliant of his career in

:37:57. > :38:02.a short space of time, getting the good players to peak. Do that and

:38:02. > :38:05.everything will be forgotten. He will make sure he has got a squad

:38:06. > :38:10.that will become the first Test. So he will not look at nationalities,

:38:10. > :38:14.you would just pick the squad that does the job and Australia. So, the

:38:14. > :38:17.reins now passed for the Six Nations. I don't know what it is

:38:17. > :38:20.about Wales but when it is a Welshman in charge, the knives seem

:38:20. > :38:26.to come up quicker when they hit a troubled patch. It could be a

:38:26. > :38:30.turbulent tournament? He has come under pressure in the first couple

:38:30. > :38:35.of games with the finger-pointing. You have got to understand, or

:38:35. > :38:43.remember, that Rob has been number two, a totally different role to

:38:43. > :38:50.the number one, where you have all the responsibility. Taking on that

:38:50. > :38:56.extra responsibility is a tough job. And he has found it hard, you know,

:38:56. > :39:00.so far. He has to be given the Six Nations. For his own development

:39:00. > :39:03.and also for the Welsh Rugby Union, to see whether he has the right man

:39:03. > :39:10.to take the reins when Warren Gatland steps down. Only time will

:39:10. > :39:15.tell. I think from that, a decision by the union can be, yes, we are

:39:15. > :39:19.happy, we know we have the right of man. Or secondly, do we scour the

:39:19. > :39:22.world for the next right man in charge? Even you have been a world

:39:22. > :39:28.number one so you know what it is like in terms of delegating.

:39:28. > :39:33.will that differ from how he has been up till now? Of this year of

:39:33. > :39:38.the summer tour and the first two games as number one. It depends on

:39:38. > :39:42.the individual. He is a very hands- on coach, Rob. A young coach. I

:39:42. > :39:46.would imagine he would want to continue that way, whereas Warren

:39:46. > :39:50.is more of an elder statesman, a delegate from the back. So will be

:39:50. > :39:55.interesting to see if he brings in somebody has to help of. I think

:39:55. > :39:58.Jenkins has a good coach now. He could push forward and assume a bit

:39:58. > :40:02.more responsibility, allowing Rob to have a bit more of a head coach

:40:02. > :40:06.role. So what is difficult because he is a hands-on coach and the make

:40:06. > :40:10.of that team will now be down to his responsibility. You know him

:40:10. > :40:16.very well, Martyn. As a friend and coach. Will he find it an easy

:40:16. > :40:20.thing to do, to step back and take more of an overseeing role?

:40:20. > :40:25.might not find it easy but it will be the best thing for him. As we

:40:25. > :40:28.said earlier, you have so much to deal with, the press, all kinds of

:40:28. > :40:34.angles coming in. And it is difficult to do that and

:40:34. > :40:41.concentrate on the back row as well. Neil Jenkins has a lot of influence

:40:41. > :40:48.with the backs, so I think he can help Rob or Bob can take a backward

:40:48. > :40:51.step and give Neil more responsibility. The only way we can

:40:51. > :40:55.find out is to give him more opportunities. We have to do

:40:55. > :40:59.exactly what the boys said - give him more support underneath so we

:40:59. > :41:03.can step back and oversea and delegate, and then put in place

:41:03. > :41:07.what he wants. I think we have got to give him that opportunity.

:41:07. > :41:11.he need to change things? Because the thinking was that over the

:41:11. > :41:17.first two tests there was still there Gatland blueprint with

:41:17. > :41:23.tactics not changing much. Does he need to implement changes now?

:41:23. > :41:27.is a tough one because clearly this autumn it hasn't really work but it

:41:27. > :41:31.has worked in the past. And forget, we have some top players coming

:41:31. > :41:36.back fresh from injury and rehabilitation after the Six

:41:36. > :41:41.Nations. It is fair to say we look a bit jaded. The structure of the

:41:41. > :41:44.northern hemisphere season has taken its toll, mentally and

:41:44. > :41:48.physically, with the fatigue. They will come back fresh later and we

:41:48. > :41:52.will see a different outlook and the Six Nations, I am pretty sure

:41:52. > :41:56.of that. And you for your company and thank you to you for watching

:41:56. > :42:01.as well. The news from the World Cup draw takes place tomorrow,

:42:02. > :42:05.remember. You will be able to tune into your radio station to find out

:42:05. > :42:14.why Wales ends up. They went into the autumn series Hogan to break

:42:14. > :42:24.into the world's top four but they end up a third tier nation. --

:42:24. > :42:26.

:42:26. > :42:30.The time has come for a long trip back, but, by crikey, what a state

:42:30. > :42:38.it has been! You have been beaten black and blue this month! A real

:42:38. > :42:44.late-night horror! Was Pumas kept clear, I finally got here. I could

:42:44. > :42:50.sense a real state of panic. The following Friday, we smashed and

:42:50. > :42:55.your castle, and rather than Dodge, we stood there like 15 red statues.

:42:55. > :43:05.The old heads wondering, how could this happen? On Monday a deep

:43:05. > :43:09.public funk. So I spoke to a few of the team and realised there was a

:43:09. > :43:14.lack of self-confidence. We stood him black, gave it a crack, played

:43:14. > :43:24.the points on offer. And there lay the answer, don't stand and stare,

:43:24. > :43:26.

:43:26. > :43:30.hit back hard. Cardiff, I love you, and G, what a party. The march to

:43:30. > :43:36.2015 now begins. But he must try and not faltered. Artifice does to

:43:36. > :43:41.get dark and you can't see the grave, call me and I will return of