Episode 15

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:00:19. > :00:23.As the race for the Pro 12 play- offs entering a critical stage we

:00:23. > :00:32.will bring you the drama, the triumphs, and the disasters from

:00:32. > :00:37.round 15. He played a starring role in that memorable win in Paris, Dan

:00:37. > :00:40.Biggar tell us what the number ten shirt means to him. It is a special

:00:40. > :00:46.Jersey and something that is very special to me, so, if I can hold on

:00:46. > :00:52.to it for as long as possible, that would be a dream., So Wales Six

:00:52. > :00:57.Nationss is back on track, we look at head to their next opponents in

:00:57. > :01:02.the eternal city, and they may be without their Starman. And we catch

:01:02. > :01:07.up with a Pro 12's fastest prop rev ev -- Bev to talk about that try

:01:07. > :01:13.and how it has gone with his team- mates I said good luck for the game

:01:13. > :01:20.and he texted back saying cheer, he said, played well, I said, good try,

:01:20. > :01:25.never speak about it again. So it is one of those things. Good

:01:25. > :01:32.evening and welcome to Scrum V. The Six Nationss maybe taking a break

:01:32. > :01:35.but the prost is in full steam. Back for his Japanese sojourn is

:01:35. > :01:39.Shane William Rob jons and Jonathan Davies, we will catch up with them

:01:39. > :01:49.in a moment. We will start with last night's crucial match between

:01:49. > :01:51.

:01:51. > :01:59.The Scarlets prepared for this match in a slightly unusual manner.

:01:59. > :02:02.They spent a week at Blue stone park in Pembrokeshire, flinging

:02:02. > :02:07.themselves after cliffs into the freezing waters below. It was in

:02:07. > :02:15.the name of team bonding. Coping up morale up during a period when the

:02:15. > :02:18.stars are away and resources are stretched. Josh Turnbull and Liam

:02:18. > :02:24.Williams bolstered the home side who were looking to complete the

:02:24. > :02:29.double over Munster. The visitors has Ronan O'Gara and okal lan in

:02:29. > :02:39.their ranks, the winners would their ranks, the winners would

:02:39. > :03:05.

:03:05. > :03:15.break back into the top four ch the has missed twice. And Williams...

:03:15. > :03:17.

:03:17. > :03:27.Is perfect with his first attempt. possession so far in the first half.

:03:27. > :03:44.

:03:44. > :03:54.That was a potential hospital pass across. The Scarlets are penalised.

:03:54. > :03:55.

:03:55. > :04:05.You can hear what the fans think of this. This is the yeest of the

:04:05. > :04:05.

:04:05. > :04:59.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 53 seconds

:04:59. > :05:07.three attempts. Finally, he get Scarlets get the penalty again.

:05:07. > :05:12.This would be the perfect tonic as half-time approaches. He need to

:05:12. > :05:22.give it some welly, he has done that and that is an excellent kick

:05:22. > :05:50.

:05:50. > :05:59.field waiting defensively so they because they know, the home side

:05:59. > :06:03.have defended bravely, and it is another penalty. There is an

:06:03. > :06:13.advantage coming again for the Scarlets. They might as well throw

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:06:21. > :06:31.and Sherry for one fraction oaf a second thought he might have a 80

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:06:37. > :06:47.yard run to the try line. But crowd are happy. Williams is happy.

:06:47. > :07:02.

:07:02. > :07:08.course are down to 14 men, for infringements at the tackle area.

:07:08. > :07:11.Goes for the snap drop goal. Good stuff by the outside half. He is

:07:11. > :07:16.having another excellent match for the Scarlets. There is the

:07:16. > :07:20.instruction by the referee for that ball to be released to Munster, who

:07:20. > :07:24.keep possession. They will keep knocking on the Scarlets's door.

:07:24. > :07:33.They look to sweep it wide. The try is inevitable but it is only a

:07:34. > :07:38.is inevitable but it is only a consolation.. Has been a tough come

:07:38. > :07:41.of months but now we are seeing reward and it is great for the

:07:41. > :07:46.players, encouraging signs from some positions are playing with

:07:46. > :07:49.confidence, we are starting to get results again., So great win for

:07:49. > :07:54.the Scarlet, the first time ever they have done the double over

:07:54. > :07:59.Munster, they won at Musgrave park in November. Impressive stuff last

:08:00. > :08:04.night. Yes, solid defensively they were good ch any result against

:08:04. > :08:08.Munster is very good. The double, it is special. So it keeps their

:08:08. > :08:13.momentum going. Rob, no try last night, but plenty of enterprise

:08:13. > :08:17.from the Scarlets. They did. They threw the ball round very well in

:08:17. > :08:20.fairness. A lot of young player, a lot of talented young player, they

:08:20. > :08:24.tried to play with ambition, but I think the foundations of that

:08:24. > :08:27.success were based obviously on their defensive work. I think if

:08:27. > :08:30.you look at O'Gara, he is never going to cause much of a threat.

:08:31. > :08:34.They done their homework, they leelsed that. They were passive in

:08:34. > :08:39.terms of defensive work. They stayed off and pushed across,

:08:39. > :08:46.although you know, Munster, as we can see, you know got the ball wide,

:08:46. > :08:51.they had little room to play. There were Flynn of numbers, and again,

:08:51. > :08:57.we see in the second type, Phil John lays off. The line is there,

:08:57. > :09:01.numbers come out, and when they had to be, they wereing a si. They got

:09:01. > :09:06.turn over. We see this Snyman, what a great defensive game. He comes

:09:06. > :09:10.through, the pressure is there, again, the tackle is made. Gareth

:09:10. > :09:14.Maule on this occasion, they set the line is there, and again,

:09:14. > :09:18.Snyman comes through, and then it is all about pressure. Murphy,

:09:18. > :09:22.Turnbull, you know, they all came through and exerted pressure, and

:09:22. > :09:27.although they didn't cross the whitewash, they didn't get a try,

:09:27. > :09:32.they reo e-- deserved that win. Great kicking by well yams but it

:09:32. > :09:36.was the defence that won them the game. Shane, crucially for the

:09:36. > :09:40.scarlet, they were fifth and six, Scarlets and Munster, they denied

:09:40. > :09:46.Munster a loosing bonus point. That could prove crucial at the end of

:09:46. > :09:49.the season. A big win against a big team. I thought it was it was

:09:49. > :09:53.mature performance. Williams had a great game, coaled it well. It's a

:09:53. > :09:58.win they needed. Perfect time to get a performance like that and

:09:58. > :10:03.needs to be happy with the performance of the young guys.

:10:03. > :10:07.talk about young guy, Owen Williams, a fairly cool head, only 20. There

:10:07. > :10:11.were a number of individuals that shone last night. Yes, one in

:10:11. > :10:15.particular, I was delighted to see him back, it is Gareth Owen, he has

:10:15. > :10:19.played a couple of times for the Scarlets. 11 appearances in total I

:10:19. > :10:23.think. I thought he was very good yesterday. He is a very good

:10:23. > :10:29.footballer, he missed the entire season because of injury, he is a

:10:29. > :10:33.big man, strong, he is only 23 so he has a lot of rugby left in him.

:10:33. > :10:37.Great skills there, the inside ball to Fenby, but it is twoe things

:10:38. > :10:42.here one he is a good player. It is great he is having opportunity and

:10:42. > :10:48.secondly, he has had a tough old time over the last couple of years

:10:48. > :10:53.and to see him playing as well is fantastic news for... Needs to play

:10:53. > :10:57.consistently. He has been in an out and sometimes it come os to a stage

:10:57. > :11:02.in a career I have to make one position my own, maybe this is the

:11:02. > :11:06.time for him to do it on the defence side, it is OK holding that

:11:06. > :11:11.defensive live line but when you play against better side like

:11:11. > :11:14.Ulster and Leinster, that line has to be more aggressive, they get

:11:14. > :11:19.over the gain line you are on the back foot. They have to variety

:11:19. > :11:23.defence. A great win for the Scarlets and some pleasing news,

:11:23. > :11:28.preespleepsing to come back from -- Rees priest land hoping to come

:11:28. > :11:33.back. His place has gone to Dan Biggar, he was the architect of

:11:33. > :11:43.that match winning try in Paris he is the latest to try and make that

:11:43. > :11:46.

:11:46. > :11:51.fabled number ten Jersey his own. Well, Dan Biggar, a few days have

:11:51. > :11:56.past since that epic win in Paris how is the mood? The mood is pretty

:11:56. > :12:00.good, you know, it helps coming in on Monday after you have won a game,

:12:00. > :12:05.where we are under no illusions the performance was perfect but people

:12:05. > :12:08.have said, saying they are fed up of Wales playing well and losing by

:12:08. > :12:13.one point, it was all about the win and the boys are delighteded with

:12:13. > :12:17.it. For you, you are no stranger to the Wales' camp but in terms of the

:12:17. > :12:22.Six Nationss this was your bow, how has that differed in terms of

:12:22. > :12:25.experience from playing for Wales in other games? Everything is more

:12:25. > :12:30.scrutinising, you are looked upon a lot more, it is the best tournament

:12:30. > :12:36.in the world, in my opinion and a lot of people's opinion, it is

:12:36. > :12:44.multiplied. You are in a goldfish bowl in Wales anyway but during Six

:12:44. > :12:49.Nations period it is magnified. Every mistake is scrutinised. You

:12:49. > :12:53.could could done 100 good things but people pick out the one or two

:12:53. > :12:57.bad thing, the fans are great. The fans in Paris on Saturday was

:12:57. > :13:00.incredible, and helped us. You have coveted this number ten shirt for

:13:00. > :13:04.some time, before the tournament began, there was a lot of column

:13:04. > :13:08.inches about whether it would be you or James Hook. What is your

:13:08. > :13:12.relationship like with James? We saw you embracing after the final

:13:12. > :13:16.whistle. Hookey, you can't meet many better blokes, and I think the

:13:16. > :13:21.way he has been with congratulating me on getting the shirtd and being

:13:21. > :13:25.as professional as he has been, is, you know, is a real positive. It is

:13:25. > :13:28.something I enjoy the rivalry. I am sure he does the same of. I ethink

:13:28. > :13:32.we bring the best out of each other. People looking at it probably see

:13:32. > :13:38.James Hook as the maverick and you as more the pragmatist, is that

:13:38. > :13:42.fair? Yes, I think so, I agree with that. I think in terms of natural

:13:42. > :13:46.talent, hookey is far and above me, he has got so much skill, he can

:13:46. > :13:52.play, probably put him up blindside flanker and he would have a

:13:52. > :13:56.circumstances seven out of ten game. Yeah, look, each is to their own, I

:13:56. > :14:03.think, but, I think on Saturday, it was a type of game which just

:14:03. > :14:06.needed a bit of control, and, and less errors sort of thing, so, I

:14:06. > :14:11.was happy with managing to steer it in the end to a victory, hopefully

:14:11. > :14:15.I can push on and show a bit more against Italy and Scotland, and

:14:15. > :14:19.England. I have heard on the grapevine you are obsessive when it

:14:19. > :14:25.comes to sporbgts you will watch anything, and you will analyse it

:14:25. > :14:29.to the smallest degree. I like football. I watch a lot of football,

:14:29. > :14:36.a lot of tennis, golf, which the missus is going crazy in the house

:14:36. > :14:40.when the sport is on, but, in all honesty I, if there was football or

:14:40. > :14:45.rugby on I would watch the football because you get rugby day in, day

:14:45. > :14:50.out, if you are an accountant the last thing they want to do is look

:14:50. > :14:52.at fig yours look over the tax system. So it is nice to relax and

:14:52. > :14:56.sometimes the rugby commentators have things to say about you as

:14:56. > :15:03.well, so it isifies to back away from that as well. Over the past,

:15:03. > :15:07.you have been accused of being arrogant and full of it, and

:15:07. > :15:10.strange accusation have come your way whenever I have met you you

:15:10. > :15:15.have struck me as humble and down- to-earth. Are you a different

:15:15. > :15:20.player on the pitch to off? I think South Yorkshire if you have watched

:15:20. > :15:23.Real Madrid where rodge doe said people don't know you for a person,

:15:23. > :15:27.all they see is what they see on a Saturday afternoon or Friday night

:15:27. > :15:31.on the pitch, and people who know you, they will back you up and

:15:31. > :15:36.think you are a half decent person, and that is, that is really what

:15:36. > :15:40.matter, it is the people that are close do you whose opinion matter.

:15:40. > :15:44.You smind a while ago, an interview a while ago your ambition was to be

:15:44. > :15:49.the best rugby player in the world, what is your ambition now? Nothing

:15:49. > :15:52.has changed. It is pointless aiming for anything lower. I am by far

:15:52. > :15:56.nowhere near the best rugby player in the world at the minute, but you

:15:56. > :16:03.know, if you don't aim, if you don't aim high, there is no point

:16:03. > :16:07.in being here, so I have a lot to learn and by far nowhere near the

:16:07. > :16:17.perfect article. But hopefully if can I can keep improving, training

:16:17. > :16:22.

:16:22. > :16:25.hard, hopefully I can get somewhere You know him well, this label of

:16:25. > :16:29.arrogant, it seems at odds with the guy, it is he different off the

:16:30. > :16:34.pitch? He is a very arrogant player and there is nothing wrong with

:16:34. > :16:39.that, they are the best players. He is the top guy off the field, you

:16:39. > :16:45.can see from the interview he is an easy fight to get on with. He has

:16:45. > :16:49.had a difficult job to do, the most important job in the rugby team. He

:16:49. > :16:54.is coming into a team that are under pressure, haven't won for a

:16:54. > :17:00.long time and he has done the job. Be used to call him a rhino skin,

:17:00. > :17:04.nothing really bothers him. He has been playing great for the Ospreys

:17:04. > :17:08.this year, his best year so far, and he will only get better.

:17:08. > :17:13.said it is the most important Jersey in the team, particularly in

:17:13. > :17:20.Wales. You have warned that Jersey with distinction, how do you think

:17:20. > :17:24.he has gone? I think he has gone extremely well. He has always been

:17:24. > :17:27.confident and you have have to have a bit of arrogance to play number

:17:27. > :17:32.ten, because you have to bossed the game. At times, he is petulant,

:17:32. > :17:37.throwing his arms in the air, having a tantrum and that is what

:17:37. > :17:40.people pick up on. I know plenty of players who off the pitch are real

:17:40. > :17:45.gentleman and on the pitch, they will wreck your head off. It is the

:17:45. > :17:49.same thing, he looks arrogant and cocky, but he is a lovely guy and

:17:49. > :17:54.you have to have that edge on the field. He is in a difficult

:17:54. > :17:58.position, do you go with James Hook or Biggar? You know which each one

:17:58. > :18:03.offers. I think because he has stayed in Wales, may be that has

:18:03. > :18:07.given him the edge a bit, he has seen more of him and he wanted

:18:07. > :18:12.control at Number Ten to win games. He did exceptionally well in Paris

:18:12. > :18:16.and I think he will be given the opportunity. When he came in before,

:18:16. > :18:20.he was thrown in on a Friday night against Fiji with a number of

:18:20. > :18:25.changes and you cannot mould a side together in one evening, so I think

:18:25. > :18:29.he has done exceptionally well. think that interview was a very

:18:29. > :18:34.mature interview and I think he came across as a different man to

:18:34. > :18:38.what people's perception of him has been. I think going back to that

:18:38. > :18:42.point, and one of one to make, he has been given this opportunity

:18:42. > :18:46.against Ireland and knows he has had for the rest of the season

:18:46. > :18:48.probably, and knowing that in the back of your mind, that you can go

:18:48. > :18:53.out there and have time on your hands to develop and grow into this

:18:53. > :18:57.position, it will make him that much better. The it will make him a

:18:57. > :19:01.better player, because he knows that if it doesn't matter if he

:19:01. > :19:05.doesn't play well, James Hook is there to come on and that is what

:19:05. > :19:10.you need, competition for places, so you are on top of your game all

:19:10. > :19:14.the time. Moving on to Wales in general. Shame, I guess that if

:19:15. > :19:23.there are many experts out in Japan you can watch, but what have you

:19:23. > :19:27.made of Wales's campaign so far? They started poorly, it was a first

:19:27. > :19:30.for half against Ireland -- a poor first half against Ireland. It was

:19:30. > :19:35.a mature second half and even though they didn't win, the pride

:19:35. > :19:39.they showed gave me hope. It wasn't the prettiest of games against

:19:39. > :19:44.France but they did what they had to do, just win and win a plea and

:19:44. > :19:49.quite a mature performance. The defence was amazing. -- When a peer.

:19:49. > :19:53.At times, it did look as though they were forcing things a little

:19:53. > :19:57.bit but they did exactly what they have to do and that was to get a

:19:57. > :20:00.big win in a tough place to go and play. I guess that is the hallmark

:20:00. > :20:03.of a losing side, if you are forcing things that you are afraid

:20:03. > :20:10.to try things. How do you think it will have affected their

:20:10. > :20:14.conference? Firstly, going to France and if you are World Cup

:20:14. > :20:20.winners, whatever, going to France is the brilliant. I am delighted

:20:20. > :20:23.that they have won four Rob Howley and for the playing members,

:20:24. > :20:28.because if you are on the back of a run like that, it is the confidence.

:20:28. > :20:35.Unless you have played at a high level, the journalists and

:20:36. > :20:39.everything, the fans, unless you have experienced it, confidence is

:20:39. > :20:44.unbelievable and playing to win and pains not to lose, it is a

:20:44. > :20:48.different psychological position to be in. -- playing enough to lose.

:20:48. > :20:52.When they were 10 points in front, you could fill the surge of

:20:52. > :20:58.confidence coming through. That win was so important, and all of those

:20:58. > :21:03.games they have lost, they should have won. They should have beaten

:21:03. > :21:06.Australia, they could have beaten Argentina and Samoa. May be the one

:21:06. > :21:11.they won is the one they should and, New Zealand. The difference between

:21:11. > :21:15.winning and losing last week hopefully will give them the

:21:15. > :21:20.confidence back and I am confident they will beat Italy. It will be

:21:20. > :21:24.tough but I am confident they will win and they will beat Scotland.

:21:24. > :21:28.Dan Biggar, as we have seen, is the incumbent for Wales at the moment.

:21:28. > :21:32.We saw a man of the match performance from Alan Williams for

:21:32. > :21:40.the Scarlets last night and if there was any doubt that production

:21:40. > :21:41.was slowing down at the Welsh by half factory, they were scotched on

:21:41. > :21:44.half factory, they were scotched on Friday -- fly half.

:21:44. > :21:51.Friday -- fly half. The Blues travelled to Edinburgh

:21:51. > :21:56.seeking revenge after losing the reverse picture in September. The

:21:56. > :22:06.visitors up against an Edinburgh side low on confidence after four

:22:06. > :22:24.

:22:24. > :22:34.could be on here. Rees catch-all the Blues. It is a penalty for the

:22:34. > :22:34.

:22:34. > :23:49.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 53 seconds

:23:49. > :23:59.eventually comes and Edinburgh are right back in this one -- wiggles

:23:59. > :24:04.

:24:04. > :24:11.Blues. Yes, it is a penalty and Rhys Patchell will have another

:24:12. > :24:21.shot at goal. Easy for him. 12 minutes left and the Blues take the

:24:22. > :24:22.

:24:22. > :24:27.I think the Blues have got the ball. Yes, they have. Pretorius clears

:24:27. > :24:31.the ball, relief for the Blues. And the ball, relief for the Blues. And

:24:31. > :24:35.Edinburgh's woes continue. So a solid win on the road for the

:24:35. > :24:40.Blues and the Jonathon, a third man of the match performance for Greece

:24:40. > :24:48.of the match performance for Greece of the match performance for Greece

:24:48. > :24:52.patch will on this programme -- Rhys Patchell.

:24:52. > :24:58.Yes, he is developing very well. He runs the game very well, he will

:24:58. > :25:07.make the right decisions but after a 1520 minutes, he will go a while

:25:07. > :25:11.-- 415-20 minutes. He will learn, don't push him too hard.

:25:11. > :25:14.Back to the action, and though she may have seemed on Friday night,

:25:14. > :25:18.the Dragons has suffered an absolute nightmare at Rodney Parade.

:25:18. > :25:28.We will review that in a few moments, but first, let's see how

:25:28. > :25:29.

:25:30. > :25:34.bench last week, Captain Alun Wyn Jones making his first start since

:25:34. > :25:44.November for the Ospreys. Encouraging start for his region

:25:44. > :25:44.

:25:44. > :27:02.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 53 seconds

:27:03. > :27:12.that is good enough for me, and the bringing it back. Morgan. No

:27:13. > :27:46.

:27:46. > :27:56.problem for the fly half, as good but the team hat on it for Connacht.

:27:56. > :27:56.

:27:56. > :28:00.bottom at Rodney Parade on Friday night. Dragons captain Lewis Evans

:28:00. > :28:05.was looking to lead his side to a first victory over the Warriors

:28:06. > :28:15.since September 2010. But Glasgow, with four consecutive wins to their

:28:16. > :28:29.

:28:29. > :28:39.name, I arrive in confident mood. - Bennett who waltzes over, easy as

:28:39. > :28:49.you like. There is a good variety about Glasgow's game at the moment.

:28:49. > :29:05.

:29:05. > :29:15.Keeping the Dragons defence Dragons have conceded again just

:29:15. > :29:27.

:29:27. > :29:37.tackling in the Dragons defence, and Taylor Paris gets his first

:29:37. > :29:49.

:29:49. > :29:59.touch of the evening and Glasgow are coming thick and fast and as

:29:59. > :30:11.

:30:11. > :30:21.easy as you like and Tim Simpson Josh drier springs up half a dozen.

:30:21. > :30:43.

:30:43. > :30:49.It is a hammering now for the And Scott White. Has he got there?

:30:49. > :30:53.It looks like he has. It is embarrassing. You can't hide away

:30:53. > :30:58.from that fact, we were very embarrassed by that and I am

:30:58. > :31:00.embarrassed that it was my team out there. It is embarrassing and it is

:31:00. > :31:03.there. It is embarrassing and it is not acceptable and the standard you

:31:03. > :31:06.try and set your team in training and in preparation for this match

:31:06. > :31:11.needed to be delivered. We looked like we have no understanding of

:31:11. > :31:15.what we were trying to do, their collective unity or effort. It was

:31:15. > :31:20.massively disappointing. Will you be considering opposition after a

:31:20. > :31:24.defeat like that? Look, I have come from a professional playing

:31:24. > :31:34.background and I have got to fight, it is all I am thinking about, to

:31:34. > :31:43.

:31:43. > :31:49.First the rest of the weekend Ulster, Glasgow and Leinster remain

:31:49. > :31:55.in the top three, the Scarlets leap frog the Ospreys into fourth, the

:31:55. > :32:01.Blues stay in seventh and only Zebre are keeping the Dragons off

:32:01. > :32:11.the foot of the table. Round two of the Swalec cup. Here

:32:11. > :32:21.

:32:21. > :32:25.And a quick congratulations as well to Matthew Jacobs who has been

:32:25. > :32:31.voted this month's principality Premiership player of the month.

:32:31. > :32:36.Well done to him. On to the Dragons game. As you say, they were

:32:36. > :32:41.describing it as an embarassment. It is the worst defeat in Pro 12

:32:41. > :32:44.history for a Welsh region. You were kpwhen Tait og than game. It

:32:44. > :32:48.was a horror show. The number of times the guys said embarrassing.

:32:48. > :32:54.They were right. It went from bad They were right. It went from bad

:32:54. > :33:01.to worse. In attack they were poor. They lost possession. Lots of

:33:01. > :33:05.mistake, some of these sum it in in terms of the clips. Poor vision,

:33:05. > :33:08.dephenomenon sievely they were awful. The coach -- defensively.

:33:08. > :33:12.You can't take away from the fact that there might have been systems

:33:12. > :33:18.but one or one tackle, the application of the players to make

:33:18. > :33:21.a tacking was so poor, and towards a tacking was so poor, and towards

:33:21. > :33:25.the end was non-existent. I think it got from bad to worse. I have

:33:25. > :33:29.never seen a Dragons side fall apart the way they did. People talk

:33:29. > :33:33.about going to Rodney Parade. It will be tough, competitive. You are

:33:33. > :33:37.up against a side that will never say die. For the first time I saw a

:33:37. > :33:40.side fall apart and not want to play, really. I feel sorry for

:33:41. > :33:45.Darren Edwards and the whole coaching team. The players have to

:33:45. > :33:48.take huge responsibility for that. How they bounce back, I don't know.

:33:48. > :33:54.Huge responsibility on the shoulder of the player, where should the

:33:54. > :33:58.blame lie largely, the players or the coaching staff or is this a

:33:58. > :34:02.wider malaise? It is is a difficult one, I think on that performance,

:34:02. > :34:06.even has to hold their hand up, whether, you know, they worked hard

:34:06. > :34:11.in the training session, leading up to it, we won't know. Ultimately it

:34:11. > :34:15.comes down to players to give that performance, and you know, it is a

:34:15. > :34:19.professional sport, it is your job, and if you give up, in any other

:34:19. > :34:24.job, most likely you would have a P45 and you are gone. And it does

:34:24. > :34:28.give ammunition to people who say that there are only enough good

:34:28. > :34:31.players for three regions in Wales. If that is the case, right, those

:34:31. > :34:36.players will be looking for work next year, that is the sad thing,

:34:36. > :34:39.unless, OK, sometimes you know you are not as good as some sides, but

:34:39. > :34:45.collectively you put the effort in and you work hard and I think that

:34:45. > :34:49.is what has happened in a lot of the times in the Dragon, and in

:34:49. > :34:53.Rodney maybe for whatever reason, good times have sides have come and

:34:53. > :34:55.they have beaten the Ospreys and Scarlets on numerous occasion,

:34:55. > :34:59.maybe on paper they are not the better side. On Friday, I wasn't

:34:59. > :35:04.there, I have looked at it on tape. It looks worse on tape because you

:35:04. > :35:08.know what is going to happen next. It is, and the players have really

:35:08. > :35:14.got to have a look at themselves, and it, as I said, next year, if

:35:14. > :35:19.they are back doing proper job, because at the moment, professional

:35:19. > :35:22.sportsmen, you know it is is a privileged position, if you roll

:35:23. > :35:26.over and let them Tickle your belly, you have had it. Was shouldn't take

:35:27. > :35:30.too much away from Glasgow. They are the form side in the league.

:35:30. > :35:33.But they have 19 players in the Scotland squad, some of them were

:35:33. > :35:38.back, the Dragons only have two player in the Welsh squad. They

:35:38. > :35:42.were better equipped to win that game. They should have been. They

:35:42. > :35:47.were playing at home. Certainly seem prepared. They started pretty

:35:47. > :35:51.well, but to me, when they came out second half they had given up. They

:35:51. > :35:55.were a side that wasn't, you are down by 20 points doesn't mean the

:35:55. > :35:58.game is over. You could see in their eye, as soon as they came out

:35:58. > :36:02.in the second half, they did want to know. I think, you know, I think

:36:02. > :36:05.the Glasgow team just fed off that. They started throwing the ball

:36:05. > :36:10.round from everywhere, playing with a smile on their face and scored

:36:10. > :36:16.great tries in the end. I think you can't allow to be doing that with a

:36:16. > :36:20.team like Glasgow, who are one of the form teams in the league.

:36:20. > :36:24.nightmare for the Dragons and a dispointing result for the Ospreys.

:36:24. > :36:28.It was a far cry from last week when they won on the road in

:36:28. > :36:31.Belfast. The man who scored the winning try will be dining out on

:36:32. > :36:37.that for many years to come. Know what the guys are like, they won't

:36:37. > :36:42.what the guys are like, they won't let me live it down. That is is a

:36:42. > :36:46.gooth good break. One more, Ryan Bevington to the line. The minute I

:36:46. > :36:51.mention something about the try I will get rinsed by the players and

:36:51. > :37:01.the guys. What a try for the the guys. What a try for the

:37:01. > :37:02.

:37:02. > :37:08.There is nobody bigger on the team I texted him the night before the

:37:08. > :37:12.game as you do to two of the boys, he said cheer, played well. I said,

:37:12. > :37:18.good try, never speak about it again! So, it is one of those

:37:18. > :37:27.things. Is that the first time you have scored a try of a similar ilk?

:37:27. > :37:32.No, I did score one many years years ago, under 19s. Very similar,

:37:32. > :37:36.same spot. Ball well taken. Ryan Bevington, can he go all the way?

:37:36. > :37:42.Yes he can. We celebrate the tries because it is not often we see a

:37:42. > :37:46.prop galloping away for 40, 50, 60 yards. You are one of those players

:37:46. > :37:51.that enjoys that aspect of the game? Yes, I think everybody has

:37:51. > :37:57.different fortes, and I do like to try and run round and get my hands

:37:57. > :38:01.on the ball. But you priority is scrummaging. Yes, the fist thing

:38:01. > :38:05.you look at scrummaging, everybody knows those are the tick boxes you

:38:05. > :38:09.have to get. After that anything else is a bonus. How it is going

:38:09. > :38:13.with the Welsh squad? I am enjoying it. It is is a good atmosphere, the

:38:13. > :38:19.boys are positive, after the win on the weekend, and they are looking

:38:19. > :38:26.forward to the next two game, they are a good bunch of boy, a lot of

:38:26. > :38:30.good friend. It is good. Watching somebody like Tipuric, I gives you

:38:30. > :38:33.confidence, he has been on the fringe, a dozen or so cap, but

:38:33. > :38:38.getting one opportunity and he can establish his place. That is what

:38:38. > :38:44.it is like. If you put pressure on players they will keep performing

:38:44. > :38:51.but all it say takes as this these levels, an injury and you are in. I

:38:51. > :38:54.was fortunate to break in. Then straight after that Gethin had his

:38:54. > :38:57.calf injury so I got brought in as well, and that is part of the

:38:58. > :39:02.injuries and the game, so hope any I will keep playing as I am and

:39:02. > :39:06.keep holding hand up. You have Edinburgh coming up this week,

:39:06. > :39:10.tough ask? Yes, it is will be a tough game, you know what they are

:39:10. > :39:14.like, they throw it round and everybody does their homework on

:39:14. > :39:18.them knows what to expect. Lynne Jones was involved with the Ospreys

:39:18. > :39:25.when your coming through, even suggesting that perhaps you are an

:39:25. > :39:29.outside bet for the Lion. Yes, I had a few messages say he was

:39:30. > :39:33.complimentary about myself. Am not sure about that. That is every

:39:33. > :39:40.player's what theys a pier to and what they want to reach, but I will

:39:40. > :39:44.have to wait and see. 6 -- aspire to. So a big game coming up for the

:39:44. > :39:48.Osprey, it is live on Friday, fanned you are a member of the

:39:48. > :39:55.armed forces you can get in free as part of their heroes day. There is

:39:55. > :39:58.a double bill on Friday we will show the under 20s the for an

:39:58. > :40:02.appetiser. After that defeat to Ireland the trip to Rome was

:40:02. > :40:05.looming like a dark cloud on the horzorpbgs but after the dust

:40:06. > :40:10.settled -- dust settled the mood has switched to one of optimism. We

:40:10. > :40:15.have slipped up on a couple of occasion s in Rome in the past,

:40:16. > :40:21.what can bects this time round? Expect. What happened to the plucky

:40:21. > :40:24.losers? Any doubts as to Italy's place at the top table of Europe in

:40:24. > :40:27.rugby were truly dispelled on the opening weekend of this years

:40:27. > :40:37.campaign as the French came and stuck in Rome for a second

:40:37. > :40:37.

:40:37. > :40:42.successive time. -- came unstuck. Here in Wales we are already too

:40:42. > :40:47.aware of the dangers of taking the relative newcomers for granted.

:40:47. > :40:54.Steve Hansen's men arrived with one 100% record against the Italians.

:40:54. > :41:00.They left humiliated. With one man bearing the brund of the backlash.

:41:00. > :41:05.Four years later, and the nation had a new villain. Referee Chris

:41:05. > :41:15.White learning the lessons of failing to synchronise watches and

:41:15. > :41:18.

:41:18. > :41:23.Wales have won in Rome. In fact the record stand at four Six Nations

:41:23. > :41:28.wins from six. And Italy, so impressive against the French, look

:41:28. > :41:33.distinctively average against Scotland a week later. But Saturday,

:41:33. > :41:42.we will see a new chapter in the saga as the battle moves to a new

:41:42. > :41:45.arena. Well some news today, Parisse was sent off on the weekend

:41:45. > :41:51.for allegedly insulting the referee, now, he will have a hearing this

:41:51. > :41:57.week, but the news is he could be suspended for the Wales game, the

:41:57. > :42:01.maximum penty is a year if he is found guilty for offending the

:42:01. > :42:05.referee, or insulting the referee. That is a massive blow nor Italy.

:42:05. > :42:11.It is great news for us! He is Italy. I can't remember seeing

:42:11. > :42:17.Parisse have a bad game for Italy. He influences the players round him.

:42:17. > :42:20.World class player, and, you know, he we will be having our fingers

:42:20. > :42:23.crossed all week. It's a tough place to play, after the

:42:23. > :42:27.performance and the win out in France, Wales would have wanted a

:42:27. > :42:31.home game, but certainly, we can go out there and win, especially with

:42:31. > :42:35.Parisse out. It is important to guard against complacency, Italy,

:42:35. > :42:39.well beaten by Scotland in Murrayfield, but perhaps the score

:42:39. > :42:43.line flattered Scotland. They are a different proposition in Rome.

:42:43. > :42:47.are. They were fantastic against France. France have shown they are

:42:47. > :42:50.not the side we expected them to be. The talisman looks like he will be

:42:50. > :42:56.missing but they have good player, one thing about the Italian side,

:42:56. > :42:59.if you look up front they are all ball carrier, they are aggressive.

:42:59. > :43:03.They have more dimension, they are shaer, they will look to bounce

:43:03. > :43:07.back. They have had the beating of tpwhaels the past. This is a huge

:43:07. > :43:11.game for them. But no doubt in my mind we have the cape bill

:43:11. > :43:15.capability of going and getting success. You said they were going

:43:15. > :43:18.to win, why? Nay have their confidence back after the wifpblt

:43:18. > :43:22.you don't become a bad side overnight. The Conference is back

:43:22. > :43:28.and I hope -- confidence is back, I hope they will play play confidence.

:43:28. > :43:32.I am confident they would beat Italy, and if they started well,

:43:32. > :43:36.quite convincingly. But the Italians might play, with Parisse