:00:23. > :00:29.Eight months ago, it was all about this. After scaling the heights of
:00:29. > :00:37.Europe, Wales are losing their grip. Sliding down the world rankings,
:00:37. > :00:42.beaten by Argentina, broken by some -- Samoa but there is no time to
:00:42. > :00:46.rest because the champions are up next. You learn a lot about
:00:46. > :00:49.yourself when you play the sport and we have certainly learnt a lot
:00:49. > :00:54.about ourselves over the last two weeks.
:00:54. > :00:58.Good evening. If last week was disappointing, this weekend has
:00:58. > :01:03.been devastating. The question tonight - what has happened to the
:01:03. > :01:13.Grand Slam champions? And joining me in the studio, Jonathan Davies,
:01:13. > :01:34.
:01:34. > :01:41.Kingsley Jones and Gareth Thomas. Tusi Pisi, unlucky to have missed
:01:41. > :01:50.out on the last game. The ball didn't arrive, but the danger is
:01:50. > :01:55.still on. There is an overlap on the right. It is a simple cross,
:01:56. > :02:05.and it has taken Samoa just over a minute to get on the scoreboard.
:02:06. > :02:08.
:02:08. > :02:18.The disastrous start that Wales didn't want. Aaron Jarvis, Paul
:02:18. > :02:20.
:02:20. > :02:30.James, two prop forwards. A very simple score for Samoa.
:02:30. > :02:41.
:02:41. > :02:47.Jones got just enough of a hound on Dan Biggar, and he is confident he
:02:47. > :02:57.is in form. Besieging for the penalty, which is given. Hopefully
:02:57. > :03:19.
:03:19. > :03:28.the moment. It is unlucky for Richard Hibbard. Only his fifth
:03:28. > :03:38.international start. A few problems in getting the ball. Jamie Roberts
:03:38. > :04:03.
:04:03. > :04:13.has done well. A penalty coming Halfpenny brings Wales back within
:04:13. > :04:26.
:04:26. > :04:35.one point, taking him up to 200 in again. The interception for Ashley
:04:35. > :04:39.Beck, over half way. This is going to make it all the way, and what a
:04:39. > :04:49.way to catch your first appearance in Welsh colours at the Lilian
:04:49. > :04:53.
:04:53. > :05:03.Stadium. A massive smile for Ashley Beck. -- at the Millennium Stadium.
:05:03. > :05:12.
:05:13. > :05:18.Just what Wales needed really. We The there are a couple of players
:05:18. > :05:25.down, Dan Biggar it is one of them. This could be dangerous, but he has
:05:25. > :05:34.lost it. That is relief for Wales. Not quite the chance to counter.
:05:34. > :05:44.Dear me. That is a nasty one for Dan Biggar. That is fair play, a
:05:44. > :05:44.
:05:44. > :06:41.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 57 seconds
:06:41. > :06:46.Halfpenny and getting possession. I'm not sure Leigh Halfpenny knows
:06:46. > :06:56.where he is at the moment. He can't stand it, his legs have gone.
:06:56. > :07:27.
:07:28. > :07:37.is over. He is away. And George Pisi get Sauveur in the corner.
:07:38. > :07:53.
:07:53. > :08:03.think that is a try. -- gets over little opportunity. Straight in at
:08:03. > :08:04.
:08:04. > :08:14.Williams. The penalty in from the side, once again. Good consistency.
:08:14. > :08:33.
:08:33. > :08:43.From just inside his own half. What Paul Williams. Williams's hurt as
:08:43. > :08:50.
:08:50. > :09:00.well. Yeah Scott Williams are still a few yards the wrong side of the
:09:00. > :09:20.
:09:20. > :09:30.what they are looking for. A snap drop goal...It was coming, it was
:09:30. > :09:54.
:09:54. > :10:04.shot for nothing. Tusi Pisi. No There is an arm round the throat,
:10:04. > :10:36.
:10:36. > :10:46.from Jonathan Davies and from Leigh now. They can't be passive here
:10:46. > :11:09.
:11:09. > :11:19.down, it is easy for Samoa to go back ahead. Simplicity itself for
:11:19. > :11:36.
:11:36. > :11:41.Tusi Pisi, edging Samoa back her Halfpenny can't get there, and he
:11:41. > :11:46.looks to have got the vital torch which will give Samoa another win
:11:46. > :11:49.in Cardiff. They have done it again. And spoke the other week about
:11:49. > :11:58.getting on the front foot and hopefully playing in the right
:11:58. > :12:02.areas, dominating in the opposition 22. We spent one minute in theirs,
:12:02. > :12:07.and they spent 2 1/2 minutes in hours. That was a disappointment
:12:07. > :12:12.and it is something we have tried to work on, in terms of trying to
:12:12. > :12:15.put the ball in the right areas but obviously we will have to look at
:12:15. > :12:21.ourselves and we failed again tonight. And I have some tough
:12:21. > :12:26.physical boys who look to take it forward, but the beauty is they
:12:27. > :12:31.have the skill to pass and run, so we are just trying to get that out
:12:31. > :12:35.of every one of the players and playing as a team. For it is not
:12:35. > :12:41.the coaches, not the settle, nothing like that. As a group of
:12:41. > :12:45.players we have a fantastic preparation for these Test matches.
:12:45. > :12:50.It was disappointing tonight as it was last weekend and it is not good
:12:50. > :12:54.enough, not good enough from us, not good enough for Welsh
:12:55. > :13:01.supporters and we will take it on the chin like men and from top next
:13:01. > :13:05.weekend. Gareth, a five losses on the bounce now, we were all hoping
:13:05. > :13:06.Argentina was a blip but if anything we were more
:13:06. > :13:12.anything we were more comprehensively outplayed on Friday
:13:12. > :13:18.night. That is the shame. On Friday night,
:13:18. > :13:23.to me it was pure lack of effort. You have to try at least as hard as
:13:23. > :13:33.the opposition, if not trying harder. The Samoans were coming
:13:33. > :13:37.
:13:37. > :13:40.into the rucks and trying harder. When I was playing, when I used to
:13:40. > :13:44.going to the changing rooms when things were going wrong, some of
:13:45. > :13:49.the senior players said they would take control of the game. That is
:13:49. > :13:55.what I wanted to see, people saying I have enough caps, I have seen
:13:55. > :14:00.this before, follow me into the areas, and I didn't see that.
:14:00. > :14:05.think it is very quiet, a lack of communication. Mike Phillips seems
:14:05. > :14:13.to be the only vocal one. They are not getting over the gain line,
:14:13. > :14:19.there is a lack of intensity, then it seems that they have no plan B.
:14:19. > :14:25.They brought George North in, there was a lot of things going wrong. As
:14:25. > :14:27.David Lemi said, they know what they are doing. The key players and
:14:27. > :14:34.the decision-makers, if the structure is not going well, you
:14:34. > :14:44.have to change it. Argentina played in the championship in the southern
:14:44. > :14:45.
:14:45. > :14:49.hemisphere, the Samoans as well, we lost twice. Everyone now knows they
:14:49. > :14:54.have tinkered with it, but they said we know what they were doing
:14:54. > :14:58.since the World Cup and Argentina. They need to change it more. When
:14:58. > :15:02.you play as a player, you know they're waiting for you, let's
:15:03. > :15:12.change it. That is when you need the senior players to call the
:15:13. > :15:19.
:15:19. > :15:25.On the point about David Lemi, you said that Wales had become
:15:25. > :15:30.predictable. Samoa had done their homework. The ruck and that did not
:15:30. > :15:37.look as strong as it could have done. The first thing is the set
:15:37. > :15:43.pieces. You have to go forward with them. The line out here, it is good
:15:43. > :15:49.to see Wales going for a drive. We can see the gain line highlighted.
:15:49. > :15:56.This is probably intended to drive George North as a safety net. It
:15:56. > :16:01.goes backwards. Brian Jones is at the back of this small. It is
:16:01. > :16:09.scrappy. Give it to George North with the Samoans on the front foot.
:16:09. > :16:12.This time it is off the top. George North is running at the strongest
:16:12. > :16:17.defenders. South Africa are the most physical side in the world.
:16:17. > :16:27.That went across the gain line, back to where they started and
:16:27. > :16:28.
:16:28. > :16:36.He did not have many options. Look how many Welsh forwards up in the
:16:36. > :16:46.ruck! The forwards had to get up up the floor, go backwards, allows
:16:46. > :16:46.
:16:47. > :16:55.Sara Hiom to get the turnover. -- Samoa to get the turnover. Some A
:16:55. > :17:00.Macro is on the front foot. It ends up in a reset scrum. -- Samoa is on
:17:00. > :17:07.the front foot. We needed to get people into the middle of the field.
:17:07. > :17:14.If the camp get breakdowns in the centre, it becomes easier. -- if
:17:14. > :17:21.you can get breakdowns. What you have to have his deception. Even
:17:21. > :17:28.with forwards, they were doing it. They were in pairs and then you run.
:17:28. > :17:34.We were going in ones. We were getting battered. In the back line,
:17:34. > :17:43.we need to have deception and six people. They fixed their feet and
:17:43. > :17:49.launched into you. -- fix people. We did not lose deception. We tried
:17:49. > :17:56.to out muscle them, which they left. If you can move them around and
:17:56. > :18:03.fragment the game, it is easier said than done but you can square
:18:03. > :18:10.up the defenders. One place where Wales could expect superior oddity
:18:10. > :18:15.is in the scrum but they were pulverised in that department. --
:18:15. > :18:22.superiority. I believe we could have won the game had it not been
:18:22. > :18:28.for the scrum. We have lost Adam Jones and that was well publicised.
:18:28. > :18:34.Wales are deliberately stepping around and trying to go through the
:18:34. > :18:42.scrum and trying to disrupt the possession. Cencus Johnstone stays
:18:42. > :18:47.Square manages to hold his ground. That is a danger as policy. --
:18:47. > :18:53.dangerous policy. This is a great camera angle. They are trying to
:18:53. > :18:58.launch the left side of the Welsh scrum through Cencus Johnstone. The
:18:58. > :19:06.Samoans have split the Welsh scrum and this has happened time and
:19:06. > :19:11.again. In the end, the Welsh scrum capitulated. Matthew Rees brings a
:19:11. > :19:18.lot to the scrum. There is more to it than one man. I believe if we
:19:18. > :19:22.had had a scrum, we would have gone on and won the game but it would
:19:23. > :19:28.have let queries about the performance. We are used to seeing
:19:28. > :19:33.Wales play with flair, imagination and creativity. That seems to have
:19:33. > :19:40.gone. When they have the ball, they seem to squander possession. They
:19:40. > :19:49.had a lot of possession. They stopped us getting over the gain
:19:49. > :19:56.line. Whatever you do, even if it is really boring for the crowd, you
:19:56. > :20:03.do that. When they kicked badly, we have got to keep pitbull stuck a
:20:03. > :20:09.couple of instances late on where we did not have a lot of possession.
:20:09. > :20:18.-- kick it will start as the ball comes loose, he rushed out. They
:20:18. > :20:24.passed it along. There was an overlap. George North was waiting.
:20:24. > :20:34.That was the kick. That was early on. They were drifting without a
:20:34. > :20:38.big kick. There were numbers on the left-hand side and two forwards in
:20:38. > :20:45.front. They were only a couple of points behind but they were always
:20:45. > :20:50.chasing the game. I do not know what it is. They're not getting
:20:50. > :20:57.over the gain line. It is confidence, isn't it? It can become
:20:57. > :21:01.them and us. If the backs are not running hard and hitting the line,
:21:01. > :21:11.but forwards can say, it is your fault. The difficulty is getting
:21:11. > :21:19.rid of the them and us culture. Rhys Priestland needs to spot
:21:19. > :21:23.things and pass. That is the Samoa game dealt with. Only eight months
:21:23. > :21:28.ago we were celebrating Wales winning the Grand Slam and now we
:21:28. > :21:34.are facing the prospect of an autumn whitewash. What has gone
:21:34. > :21:40.wrong so quickly? Being a Welsh rugby fan is emotionally exhausting.
:21:40. > :21:48.Euphoria is so often followed by despair. How can a team that has
:21:48. > :21:54.reached such heady heights Tambov so deep a trough? -- tumble in so
:21:54. > :21:58.deep a trough. Wales have won the Grand Slam earlier this year,
:21:58. > :22:03.beating all-comers with a combination of guile, power and
:22:03. > :22:08.superior fitness. All these ingredients seem to have
:22:08. > :22:15.disappeared. Wales scored 10 tries in the Six Nations and made 17
:22:15. > :22:20.clean line breaks. In this autumn's series, they have scored one try
:22:20. > :22:24.and made one line break. The once feared attack has become
:22:24. > :22:34.predictable - easy to defend against. The two weeks running,
:22:34. > :22:38.
:22:38. > :22:42.Wales have been out muscled, beaten up up front. The mean defence, has
:22:42. > :22:51.leaked five tries already this series was about as before the
:22:51. > :22:56.visit of the free-scoring All Blacks. -- this series. That was
:22:56. > :23:05.before the visit. Knows sweeping changes in personnel. These players
:23:05. > :23:10.held aloft the Six Nations Trophy. The injured stalwarts were so
:23:10. > :23:14.crucial. Another absentee is the head coach, Warren Gatland. He is
:23:14. > :23:18.on secondment with the Lions but returns as planned this week. Given
:23:18. > :23:23.he has been involved in selection and tactics, will his return
:23:23. > :23:29.reverse the fortunes of Wales? Other theories point towards poor
:23:29. > :23:34.regional form. The salary cap has forced region's two/wage bills and
:23:34. > :23:40.offload players. Some of our sides have been on the end of severe
:23:40. > :23:44.beatings, in Europe and in the Pro12. There are those who thought
:23:44. > :23:49.that he wears could exist in a vacuum, players could cast aside
:23:49. > :23:55.any regional insecurities when they pulled on the red shirt. On this
:23:55. > :24:02.evidence, they cannot. Cracks have appeared. Cracks that could rapidly
:24:02. > :24:07.turned into major fault lines. A number of potential reasons for the
:24:07. > :24:12.recent decline. A lot of the criticism has been aimed at the
:24:12. > :24:18.acting head coach. Is that justified? It is totally
:24:18. > :24:22.unjustified. He has stepped up from number two to number one. He has
:24:22. > :24:27.done that in circumstances nothing to do with him. All too often, we
:24:27. > :24:33.look at the coach. I'm sure he's feeling pressure and questions
:24:34. > :24:38.himself. We have played Australia three times. I also have read a lot,
:24:38. > :24:43.please do not disrespect Argentina and Samoa as well. They're very
:24:43. > :24:52.good teams was dogged beat Samoa in the World Cup but that was a tight
:24:53. > :24:58.game as well. -- good teams. We beat Samoa. Two point the finger at
:24:58. > :25:06.one person is a wrongful stuck a number of factors you have
:25:06. > :25:12.highlighted all contribute. -- is wrong. Argentina and Samoa are
:25:12. > :25:17.respected opponents and stronger than they have ever been. Warren
:25:17. > :25:23.Gatland has talked about beating the southern hemisphere superpowers
:25:23. > :25:30.on a regular basis. If we do not play well, we will not beat sides.
:25:30. > :25:35.That is it. We need a platform and the platform has creaked a bit.
:25:35. > :25:40.Basics have not happened - we have not executed things very well. When
:25:40. > :25:46.you are on the field commit you need people to stand up and say,
:25:47. > :25:52.that is not working. Keep the ball a little bit. There seems to be a
:25:52. > :25:56.lack of on-field leadership - players on the field. Everything
:25:56. > :26:01.fits into a game plan and everything seems to have creaked at
:26:02. > :26:08.the moment. You mention confidence. If they get the basics right and
:26:08. > :26:12.they go over the gain line, all of a sudden, everyone is picking the
:26:12. > :26:16.games up with the defence on the back foot. That is not happening
:26:16. > :26:21.and they need to sort that out first. You mentioned about the more
:26:21. > :26:26.mature, of the more Senior players in the squad. A lot of these
:26:26. > :26:32.youngsters have not experienced the losing. What do the older guys need
:26:32. > :26:37.to do in terms of taking them under their wings and guiding them?
:26:37. > :26:45.need to stand up and be counted the study did not become a great player
:26:45. > :26:52.overnight. They have earned reputations. -- and be counted. You
:26:52. > :26:56.did not become a great player overnight. We have gone backwards.
:26:56. > :27:06.The Senior players need to pull the young players up and say, you know
:27:06. > :27:13.what, it is not good enough to lose and lose wealth. -- well. We have
:27:13. > :27:17.to go back. When I played it was OK to lose but now it is not. This
:27:17. > :27:25.team are good enough to beat Argentina. This team are big enough.
:27:25. > :27:31.They need to instil that they're good enough to win. -- good enough.
:27:31. > :27:38.Warren Gatland delegates well. That is rightly so. They have been with
:27:38. > :27:42.him all the way. Maybe the players have gone on. Maybe they have
:27:42. > :27:47.dropped their confidence. In hindsight, after his injury in
:27:47. > :27:53.Australia, he did not have much input. When you look at it, the
:27:53. > :28:02.autumn Test series and the World Cup rankings came out in the World
:28:02. > :28:08.Cup fixtures and groups. Rugby away to the Lions after the autumn
:28:08. > :28:13.Test. It is crucial to us because of world rankings and World Cup
:28:13. > :28:19.pools. It is a lot of different factors. Now everyone analyses
:28:19. > :28:27.everything because we are losing. They made a decision and you cannot
:28:27. > :28:34.do anything about it. We have got Argentina, Samoa, New Zealand and
:28:34. > :28:39.Australia. That is tough. I do not care how the Lions get on. I would
:28:40. > :28:44.rather Wales do well in the autumn series. If Warren Gatland being
:28:44. > :28:51.away has hampered that, it is the wrong decision. Wales comes first
:28:51. > :28:57.to me. On the topic of regional rugby. Roger Lewis has been
:28:57. > :29:04.speaking to BBC Wales today. He spoke to the Eve Myles Report
:29:04. > :29:09.programme. He said an agreement appears to be imminent. Do you
:29:09. > :29:13.accept the view that Welsh rugby is in crisis? The good news is that
:29:13. > :29:23.the talking is virtually over. I am confident that this side of
:29:23. > :29:26.
:29:26. > :29:31.Christmas we will sign a new accord Back to matters on the pitch and
:29:31. > :29:37.things are not about to get any easier - New Zealand are the next
:29:38. > :29:47.opponent for Wales but first let's look at the weekend's other matches
:29:48. > :29:58.
:29:58. > :30:04.starting with England versus electric pace. He crashes over the
:30:04. > :30:14.line, and Australia celebrate. An immediate response to take the lead
:30:14. > :30:14.
:30:14. > :30:59.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 57 seconds
:30:59. > :31:08.in the second half. Scurrying away, trying to fairly regained position
:31:08. > :31:11.but they have been penalised. Australia, who have had 75% of the
:31:11. > :31:21.possession in the second half, see that now reflected on the
:31:21. > :31:39.
:31:39. > :31:49.making towards the try-line. Nothing can stop them. The 14th try
:31:49. > :32:08.
:32:08. > :32:14.of George Clancy in the tackle. -- for the score, the Hawker for his
:32:14. > :32:24.second try for South Africa. Two have come in this match, the second
:32:24. > :32:32.
:32:32. > :32:40.Largely disappointing weekend for the home nations, with the
:32:40. > :32:48.exception of Ireland. It is a Lyons year, we are going to Australia in
:32:48. > :32:53.the summer, what implications does this have on their tour? They are
:32:53. > :32:55.improving. The gifted the South Africans points, but in the second
:32:55. > :33:00.Africans points, but in the second half they were pretty good in what
:33:00. > :33:05.they did. It is not good, England losing to Australia, a bit of a
:33:05. > :33:09.surprise. I'm not sure if England really know their best 15 at the
:33:09. > :33:15.moment. We need to have a strong Six Nations tournament for
:33:15. > :33:23.confidence and selection purposes. Six months ago, most pundits would
:33:24. > :33:28.have said the first 15 would have been largely composed of Welshman -
:33:28. > :33:32.that is probably not the case any more? Probably not, but I think
:33:32. > :33:38.each camp would be more concerned individually about what is going on
:33:38. > :33:44.in their own camps. When the Lyons come together, it is a new team and
:33:45. > :33:50.we forget about everything that has gone on in the international teams.
:33:50. > :33:56.I think the difference at the moment is the southern hemisphere
:33:56. > :34:01.boys play up here a bit better than us. Scotland were allayed yesterday.
:34:01. > :34:05.The Australians suddenly found a scrum because Ben Alexander was
:34:06. > :34:09.back, and New Zealand are on different level. Australia,
:34:09. > :34:13.everyone thought if you had put money on the for the autumn Test
:34:13. > :34:19.that the Lyons would beat Australia, but Australia have to perform, they
:34:19. > :34:24.have to go well, because rugby union is their third sport and they
:34:24. > :34:34.can't afford to be blown away. The world champions are next up, on
:34:34. > :34:48.
:34:48. > :34:53.The All Blacks got a card of just over an hour ago after a fairly
:34:53. > :34:59.easy victory yesterday over Italy. As they prepared to face Wales this
:34:59. > :35:04.week, we thought we would catch up with an All Black legend. Sir Colin
:35:04. > :35:09.Meads gave us his thoughts yesterday. After last year's World
:35:09. > :35:15.Cup, we thought Wales would be the one team that could give us a fight.
:35:15. > :35:19.After last night, we didn't know what to expect. Is the Gulf to big
:35:19. > :35:25.to leap between the dismal defeat to Samoa last night and the All
:35:25. > :35:32.Blacks coming to town - is it too much to ask in a week? Now, a week
:35:32. > :35:37.is a long time in rugby and the attitudes of the players. They'll
:35:37. > :35:41.understand death in his not that mobile after his accident, he has
:35:41. > :35:45.got to learn to keep off the ladder and don't go painting his beach
:35:45. > :35:50.houses, but there will be a different side. He were will be an
:35:50. > :35:55.angry man right now. Knowing him, he won't be very kind to them in
:35:55. > :35:59.training this week. Gareth Thomas was in the studio last night for
:35:59. > :36:03.the game and he had a similar thing, that it is almost the best possible
:36:03. > :36:10.opposition to have next, because it will force Wales to raise their
:36:10. > :36:15.game. I am sure it will. Every team that plays the All Blacks play is
:36:15. > :36:20.10, 20% better than they normally do and that is because of who they
:36:20. > :36:25.are. They have this aura about them that makes teams play well against
:36:25. > :36:30.them, and it was the same back when we were playing in the 60s. Teams
:36:30. > :36:36.were not that flash, but when they played the All Blacks they played
:36:36. > :36:40.pretty well. What is the current state of the All Blacks? As you
:36:40. > :36:44.mentioned, maybe they are not quite the complete team some people see
:36:44. > :36:48.them as, but they look pretty formidable to the the Northern
:36:48. > :36:57.hemisphere. They are a good side and with over 15 players they are
:36:57. > :37:06.hard to beat but they do have the odd he -- the odd problems. They
:37:06. > :37:12.were very upset when we drew with Australia, and they said we played
:37:12. > :37:19.poorly. It is keeping the team for all the time is quite a challenge
:37:19. > :37:23.for the selection panel, but Ritchie McCaw, they have grown and
:37:24. > :37:29.he has grown into a great captain and a great leader now. He is part
:37:29. > :37:35.of the motivation that keeps the thing going. Jonathan, New Zealand
:37:35. > :37:40.have already got zoo fairly impressive easy wins on tour with
:37:40. > :37:45.two different teams. What did you may cough them? They are brilliant
:37:45. > :37:49.side, great to watch. You have got to keep the pressure on them all
:37:49. > :37:56.the time. The difference was the contact, the cleaning out, the
:37:56. > :38:01.recycling was so quick. You could play scrum-half. I quite fancy that.
:38:01. > :38:07.As I mentioned, they have got a squad of 30 players and they wanted
:38:07. > :38:11.to give everyone again, and they did that. They have not lost for 15
:38:11. > :38:21.months, are there any weaknesses? They are way ahead of everyone at
:38:21. > :38:22.
:38:22. > :38:28.the moment and they make everything They work on the policy of more
:38:28. > :38:38.players on the attack than the defence. You pick the ball all here,
:38:38. > :38:44.
:38:44. > :38:49.look at the numbers in the rocks micro. -- in the rucks. The ball on
:38:49. > :38:54.a plate, if five Scottish defenders in the Channel and you will always
:38:54. > :38:59.be in trouble. This set them up for the first try. It is outstanding
:38:59. > :39:05.play. It looks simple but it is just the efficiency. They are
:39:05. > :39:10.vulnerable if you are smart. Scotland did cause them problems.
:39:10. > :39:17.One man at the breakdown, pressure from Scotland, get New Zealand on
:39:17. > :39:22.the back foot. It is difficult to find a weakness, but they certainly
:39:22. > :39:27.are... We see it again here, one man at the breakdown, a turnover
:39:27. > :39:33.and a try so there are areas you can have a go at them, but the
:39:33. > :39:39.first thing you must do is defend them on the gain line. We haven't
:39:40. > :39:44.beaten them for 59 years but your team came close back in 2004. They
:39:44. > :39:53.are a human after all. Yet, and that is what you have to remember.
:39:53. > :39:59.They come with an aura which is so invincible that it picks you up.
:39:59. > :40:02.The fact that the New Zealand All Blacks come into town for the under
:40:02. > :40:06.treatable world champions, a lot of the players have nothing to lose
:40:06. > :40:13.and they know they have to play with 100% effort because if you go
:40:13. > :40:19.with any less, you will be back on a hiding. You can not fear them,
:40:19. > :40:23.that is the thing. Sometimes you put the jersey on and you think I
:40:24. > :40:30.don't know if I can beat them. You have to respect them, but not fear
:40:30. > :40:37.them. Hair think of anyone ever wants to make a statement in rugby,
:40:37. > :40:41.you do it against New Zealand. The faint is of the support. Cardiff
:40:41. > :40:47.will be dancing, and whatever has gone on in the previous two weeks,
:40:47. > :40:50.the whole stadium will be behind the Welsh boys. If they start well,
:40:50. > :40:55.it could be a great evening but they have got to believe they can
:40:55. > :40:59.do what. We will be keeping our fingers crossed. They have not been
:40:59. > :41:09.many joyous affairs between Wales and New Zealand for Welsh fans, so
:41:09. > :41:33.
:41:33. > :41:41.we got Rick to comb the archives How do you address the haka?
:41:41. > :41:48.fight culture with culture. Guess what the score was. You won. This
:41:48. > :41:52.one we did give you a fight, we came very close. This is one of the
:41:52. > :41:59.little straws we hang on to, and look at the All Blacks on the final
:41:59. > :42:05.whistle. They look mildly happy to have won. The No. 8 is on his knees,
:42:05. > :42:09.the number 13 on his back. That is a game of rugby. When the All
:42:09. > :42:14.Blacks are lying down at the end, that is a big effort. You would
:42:14. > :42:17.have to call that the moral victories. Or we have is moral
:42:18. > :42:24.victories and frankly it is patronising. This is the closest we
:42:24. > :42:33.have got in 60 years. We were winning at this point and there are
:42:34. > :42:38.still debate now what that Graham Moody... He jumps out of the line-
:42:38. > :42:45.out. The Saux have a look. This is a lesson in technique from him.
:42:45. > :42:50.Look at him, good vending of the knees, strong extension through the
:42:50. > :43:00.trunk, and project yourself powerfully through the line-out.
:43:00. > :43:00.
:43:00. > :43:06.The guess what the result was. Zealand won. Use four. The look at
:43:06. > :43:12.that. That is all we have got. Evidence would suggest that is all
:43:12. > :43:17.you have got. It is evidence, it is a fact. It to is very difficult for
:43:17. > :43:24.me to argue with that fact as to present them. The try of it will be
:43:24. > :43:34.murder coming over here now. A Welsh win over the All Blacks is
:43:34. > :43:36.
:43:36. > :43:44.like the Loch Ness Munster, it has never been seen in colour. I think