:00:26. > :01:01.England, in such control. It's a penalty against Wales. Wales will be
:01:02. > :01:16.on the scoreboard at last. Wales score! Six minutes to go. A third
:01:17. > :01:29.try. What drama is left. England survive the late challenge by Wales.
:01:30. > :01:38.Hello, good evening to you. Welcome to the Six Nations special, yes it
:01:39. > :01:49.is defeat but if you are looking for therapy, we have a doctor in the
:01:50. > :01:59.house. And that was it himself. Also joining us, Wales's under 20s.
:02:00. > :02:03.Wales's women are here as well. Only one place to start. Sadly it at
:02:04. > :02:11.Twickenham, the ultimate game of two halves. Fast Eddy was focused on the
:02:12. > :02:15.draw, firing shots off about the legality of Wales this progress, gin
:02:16. > :02:22.but both coaches were conservative and confident when it came to
:02:23. > :02:28.selection, naming unchanged teams. Who would win with the unstoppable
:02:29. > :02:35.force met the immovable object? There was an appointment in the
:02:36. > :02:42.midfielder waiting room. Gareth Davies and Dan Biggar left Darren
:02:43. > :02:43.Brown in a foul mood last time but who would be heroes and villains of
:02:44. > :02:59.this time around? Brown for the line! Wales scurry
:03:00. > :03:06.back, it is loose. Rob Evans got back, did he get a hand on the ball?
:03:07. > :03:16.That's an knock-on, isn't it? Or is it a rolling along the ground?
:03:17. > :03:27.Hartley... Roberts with the tackle. The defence has recovered. Paul
:03:28. > :03:30.Clinton could work, I think that was legal. Jamie Roberts gave away the
:03:31. > :04:00.penalty. On the lake there, doesn't roll
:04:01. > :04:08.over? I think that such right. -- that is a try. Inconclusive. Held
:04:09. > :04:16.up, five metre scrum. You have been overruled again!
:04:17. > :04:26.That wasn't so smoothly than by England.
:04:27. > :04:33.Anthony Watson! And England, in full control, just after the half hour
:04:34. > :04:50.mark. The referee lets England counter
:04:51. > :05:12.rack. And it's a penalty to England. Everything going their way.
:05:13. > :05:18.Wales will be on the scoreboard at last! A gift from England. Great
:05:19. > :05:32.work from Dan Biggar. More worry, Warburton does not look
:05:33. > :05:43.good. Thank goodness for that, thumbs up.
:05:44. > :05:55.The referee's puzzle has gone, it won't count. It went off and England
:05:56. > :06:10.player, was it forward out of Jonathan Davies's grasp?
:06:11. > :06:37.Faletau for the line! Wales, a third try! Is their time? After the
:06:38. > :06:48.conversion there will be a couple of minutes left.
:06:49. > :06:56.England's defence around the fringes, solid. George North for the
:06:57. > :07:02.line! He is in touch. That's it, think. Ten seconds to go, the
:07:03. > :07:13.referee's whistle has gone. They should take the line-out.
:07:14. > :07:17.Danny Care kicks it into the crowd and England survive the late
:07:18. > :07:22.challenge by Wales. We will get the views of our guests
:07:23. > :07:38.soon. We just didn't turn up, unlike us, I
:07:39. > :07:42.said in the box after 25 minutes, do I need to make some changes? Make
:07:43. > :07:48.some replacements to get some energy, because it was very unlike
:07:49. > :07:56.ask, very disappointing and it cost us the game. It was one game for 60
:07:57. > :07:59.minutes and another game for 20, the cubicle at knife-point in the first
:08:00. > :08:06.60 because the last 20 belong to Wales. A funny performance by us,
:08:07. > :08:10.times we were immaculate, really sharp, intense, but then be dropped
:08:11. > :08:17.off at the end. We weren't at the races first off, I'm not sure what
:08:18. > :08:21.it was, then they were too far ahead of us and we gave away some soft
:08:22. > :08:27.penalties as well in the second half, it has cost us. I was happy
:08:28. > :08:32.the way we played the first 40 minutes, we were aggressive, played
:08:33. > :08:34.on the front foot, it's a shame we didn't replicate the first half in
:08:35. > :08:41.the second half but that's something we can work on. You always believe,
:08:42. > :08:46.which just wished it went on for another couple of minutes but
:08:47. > :08:52.England played well, then you the work how to slow it down and stuff,
:08:53. > :08:59.credit to them but we were second at the races. I don't know what the
:09:00. > :09:02.answer is, I will be honest and say you have to begrudge goal of
:09:03. > :09:06.yourself and say we didn't have enough energy in the first half,
:09:07. > :09:12.very unlike us. Wales have been together for eight years, we have
:09:13. > :09:15.been together for six weeks so to put in a performance like that shows
:09:16. > :09:20.where the team is going, we have work to do and we're not the
:09:21. > :09:21.finished product. Congratulations to them, they have won the Triple Crown
:09:22. > :09:30.and they deserved to win today. Not only that but also the Six
:09:31. > :09:36.Nations title after what happened at Murrayfield. Good evening to you.
:09:37. > :09:43.Must be a pleasant drive across the Severn Bridge for you? A bit easier
:09:44. > :09:46.than last time! Was it Wales absolutely terrible in the first
:09:47. > :09:55.half or working and that dominant? It's a combination, England were
:09:56. > :09:59.smart, they attacked the fringes of Sean's defence, they went short side
:10:00. > :10:04.against Cuthbert and they just start Wales of traditional reference
:10:05. > :10:09.points to get them into the game, and for 40 minutes, they had nothing
:10:10. > :10:14.to feed on, they couldn't get a collision, penalties within leaking
:10:15. > :10:19.field position and you ally that to an uncharacteristic Wales 40
:10:20. > :10:23.minutes, they have been big occasions before because the coaches
:10:24. > :10:28.will think, what did we get wrong? This is a side that has gone to
:10:29. > :10:32.Twickenham and was successful there, they nailed the game in the World
:10:33. > :10:39.Cup with the experience they have, you wouldn't expect them to see what
:10:40. > :10:43.turned up for 40 minutes. Sometimes there isn't a straightforward
:10:44. > :10:48.explanation for those performances. In theory could have been looking at
:10:49. > :10:51.30 points in the first 40 minutes because there was no foothold for
:10:52. > :10:59.Wales at all, just a couple of glimpses of chances, that scoreline
:11:00. > :11:03.could have really been bigger. Take yourself back to the 2011 Rugby
:11:04. > :11:06.World Cup quarterfinal, Wales getting off to a blistering start
:11:07. > :11:14.against Ireland, that is something we have seen under Gatland, they
:11:15. > :11:21.were so ordinary in the first half. Not a lot to add to what Dean said.
:11:22. > :11:25.It was and characteristic. We pride ourselves on our defence, these are
:11:26. > :11:30.some of the missed chances. I thought we kicked poorly as well.
:11:31. > :11:36.This is the back three, and in fairness to England, they are
:11:37. > :11:38.grasping the initiative of the new game, you see in the Southern
:11:39. > :11:46.Hemisphere, when they get the ball, they think, how can I score a try,
:11:47. > :11:51.how can I eat the guy, get pace into the game? The back three just
:11:52. > :11:56.embodied that. -- how can I eat the guy.
:11:57. > :12:04.It came from a kick in the first half, we didn't chase as well as we
:12:05. > :12:10.normally do, it was uncharacteristic but I think we were flat, every time
:12:11. > :12:16.we came into their half, gave a penalty away or whatever it was,
:12:17. > :12:19.that was unusual, we were flat, slow, ponderous, and we offered
:12:20. > :12:31.nothing, it's the worst performance under Warren Gatland, the first
:12:32. > :12:35.half. Do you endorse the behaviour of coaches, publicly saying that the
:12:36. > :12:41.players were showing a lack of enthusiasm yesterday? It's
:12:42. > :12:46.difficult, but anyone who watched the game would say that tactically,
:12:47. > :12:54.Wales knew what they have to do to beat England, the performance wasn't
:12:55. > :12:57.there by the players. The players will be hurting more than myself or
:12:58. > :13:01.the fans because it was a poor performance and it affects them,
:13:02. > :13:07.they just lack intensity from the start. Defensively, like we have
:13:08. > :13:14.mentioned, the worst defensive record under Warren Gatland. If he
:13:15. > :13:20.had any hair, you would have pulled it out at half-time. But there are
:13:21. > :13:23.positives, the way they came back in the final quarter, goes to show they
:13:24. > :13:28.were frustrated, they weren't happy with their performance, but a lot of
:13:29. > :13:32.work to be done, it was a strange game to what is a Welsh man because
:13:33. > :13:38.you look for your big players, the one to have consistently played well
:13:39. > :13:44.for Wales over the years and unfortunately they were second to
:13:45. > :13:47.the English players yesterday. We hear of Wales wanting to play a more
:13:48. > :13:54.expansive game but in attack they looked like they didn't know what
:13:55. > :14:00.they were doing. He has earned the right to play wide, but the options
:14:01. > :14:04.off then big, they weren't options. He has gone for a switch, Jamie
:14:05. > :14:10.Roberts has run straight into Dan Biggar but he was the only option.
:14:11. > :14:16.There was no blindside option, no inside option, it's really not much
:14:17. > :14:21.that he can do there. That wasn't the only incident, there were times
:14:22. > :14:27.when they took the ball flat, there weren't any options. If you look at
:14:28. > :14:31.those instances, if you were going to galvanise that side, you would
:14:32. > :14:37.want a line-out, get it off the top, put Jamie Roberts... They didn't
:14:38. > :14:42.have any of that. So any ball they had, they were playing in broken
:14:43. > :14:56.field which suited the English team. There are times when Care -- Biggar
:14:57. > :15:03.looks, where is the... The scrum was under pressure, so the traditional
:15:04. > :15:09.Gatland start point, that get everything in behind, attrition,
:15:10. > :15:17.direct, weren't there. But Wales were gifting England opportunities.
:15:18. > :15:23.England looked dynamic in attack, they were very smart at getting the
:15:24. > :15:25.outside edge. I think the mayhem he would have caused going to the
:15:26. > :15:32.caller would have created an opportunity. This was there all the
:15:33. > :15:40.time for England. He should have nailed his man and put Watson over.
:15:41. > :15:44.But we had some star points, we had a line-out after 37 minutes, it
:15:45. > :15:51.wasn't great position, and then we had a series of 11 rocks or phases
:15:52. > :15:54.and we passed the ball five times, we're playing against England, with
:15:55. > :15:59.the muscle heads they have got in their back row and we pick and
:16:00. > :16:06.drive, that's our choice, then we had a series of scrums at about 55
:16:07. > :16:11.minutes in their 22 and we did exactly the same, pick and drive.
:16:12. > :16:13.Four months ago we were playing against Australia, desperate to
:16:14. > :16:17.spread the field, look what they did in the last 20 minutes when we did
:16:18. > :16:24.throw the ball about, its place in rugby. We have just had the World
:16:25. > :16:27.Cup, the lessons of the Southern Hemisphere, they are getting
:16:28. > :16:33.lighter, the game is faster, they are passing the ball more and it's
:16:34. > :16:38.only high risk rugby if your skills on good enough to catch and pass and
:16:39. > :16:44.you can't control in wide areas. We have two up skill ourselves because
:16:45. > :16:48.unless we do, playing three tests in the summer, we will be miles behind
:16:49. > :16:55.them. That is coming from the coaches? They are in a position
:16:56. > :17:00.whereby they are being told to play a certain brand of rugby. They are
:17:01. > :17:05.being encouraged to undergo back to the point you asking shame about, is
:17:06. > :17:10.Warren Gatland right to call them out? He has done it before. It might
:17:11. > :17:18.be a tactic he might want a response. He does that when he is a
:17:19. > :17:24.bit angry. He did it in 2010, he threw Ryan Jones under the bus... So
:17:25. > :17:27.he has to lead before and it might work, personally I don't like it
:17:28. > :17:32.because I think they should have loyalty and they win together and
:17:33. > :17:36.lose together, but it's a fair tactic to use but he has got to get
:17:37. > :17:44.a response. What about the coach's response? Do you rate your players
:17:45. > :17:47.publicly? If it is so obvious, there is no point spreading a line
:17:48. > :17:50.everybody can see through. There are times when you say, I don't know
:17:51. > :17:55.what happened in the first 40 minutes. You have to take some
:17:56. > :17:59.responsibility for stop there is no point saying, we were competitive
:18:00. > :18:06.and everyone just slams you for not being transparent. You have got to
:18:07. > :18:13.get the balance and it's the balance of hanging someone out to dry at a
:18:14. > :18:18.time when the -- they are feeling vulnerable, but I think he's trying
:18:19. > :18:23.to get a response for next week, get some emotional... He could have said
:18:24. > :18:30.we were poor, let energy, not they were poor... Without a doubt, but
:18:31. > :18:32.sometimes you've just watched the side you have invested so much into,
:18:33. > :18:36.that's quite an emotional moment. side you have invested so much into,
:18:37. > :19:37.couple of years ago side you have invested so much into,
:19:38. > :20:38.really talented individuals can do. He has got done
:20:39. > :20:41.really talented individuals can do. came on... It was good to see Rhys
:20:42. > :20:46.Webb back, he has been chomping at the bit, we'll know he's deadly
:20:47. > :20:52.around breakdown, he brought a bit of speed to his distribution. He got
:20:53. > :20:58.caught once by Itoje but every other Welsh player did as well. He was
:20:59. > :21:07.dangerous on the breakdown and was creating gaps for others. Rhys
:21:08. > :21:13.Priest and I think did well, he took the ball going forward, took it to
:21:14. > :21:19.the English line, created problems and George North and Wales scored a
:21:20. > :21:23.great try from a simple move. Why don't we play rugby, why do really
:21:24. > :21:29.bit so late, the game was finished? Possibly because Wales didn't start
:21:30. > :21:33.well. It's just a simple pass when you look at it but the off-load by
:21:34. > :21:40.Liam Williams, the follow-up play by Jonathan Davies puts George North
:21:41. > :21:44.there. At times Wales tried forcing things when it wasn't on, under
:21:45. > :21:48.pressure by England, they made a lot of mistakes and errors, when they
:21:49. > :21:54.put it together, they have really creative players. I thought I
:21:55. > :21:57.wouldn't was really good as well. The most shared image last night on
:21:58. > :22:06.social media was full of George North and the foot in touch. What
:22:07. > :22:14.was your view? It's quite clear! Split-second decision, there is no
:22:15. > :22:23.TMO, it's the call from the line to 20 is not in touch. Who is to blame?
:22:24. > :22:29.The touch judge. Would it have made a difference? Craig Joubert, last
:22:30. > :22:34.player began, does he not have the jurisdiction to say, can we have
:22:35. > :22:42.another look at that? The touch judge puts the flag up and the play
:22:43. > :22:52.stops. Do the rules need to change? The studio seems to think so.
:22:53. > :22:57.There's got to be something. Trust me, this is not from a bitter Welsh
:22:58. > :23:03.man, impartial BBC broadcaster. Imagine that is the rugby World Cup
:23:04. > :23:08.final. Surely will rugby needs to look at... It's a bit is being used
:23:09. > :23:16.for all sorts of things, a key moment like that, the TMO has to be
:23:17. > :23:19.used? If it is about a rugby World Cup trophy being handed the one
:23:20. > :23:26.country and not the other, surely it. Every time the ball goes next to
:23:27. > :23:30.touch you have to go back and have a look or wasn't in touch, start the
:23:31. > :23:36.game began. It's unfeasible to do that. Lots of the disciplinary
:23:37. > :23:44.issues to clear up. Let's take a look at this one. There is Joe
:23:45. > :23:54.Marler, Rob Evans, here comes an elbow smack in the face. I knew you
:23:55. > :23:59.would come to me first! You look at it, if we're looking at every single
:24:00. > :24:07.thing, he is guilty of striking him, realistically. How many weeks? I
:24:08. > :24:12.think about for days. Realistically, think the referee had seen that he
:24:13. > :24:18.might have had a word in his is at best. We're in danger of putting
:24:19. > :24:26.every incident, analysing it, we'll never get on with the game of rugby.
:24:27. > :24:30.A couple more disciplinary issues. This is one I want to get your view
:24:31. > :24:37.on, this is Thomas Francis. Wales had a penalty at this point,
:24:38. > :24:40.overturned. That for me is frustratingly forgot to look where
:24:41. > :24:49.you are on the field, it is Wales's ball. You mean stupidity? Your five
:24:50. > :24:55.meters from the try, you need points on the board, he has caught him in
:24:56. > :24:59.the face, end of story. There is a bit of frustration. You're not going
:25:00. > :25:06.to get away with it, so it's just stupidity. Reckless, he will get a
:25:07. > :25:12.band because world rugby are strict with anything around the eyes and
:25:13. > :25:16.face and so they should be. There was one of the big issue to discuss
:25:17. > :25:18.and that was when Joe Marler was allegedly making a racial slur at
:25:19. > :25:45.Sampson low. Samson Lee. Samson Lee has in the past spoken
:25:46. > :25:52.about how proud he is of his gypsy heritage. Clearly you could hear Joe
:25:53. > :25:57.Marleau calling him gypsy boy on the ref Mike. What should happen next?
:25:58. > :26:02.Society takes a dim view, all walks of life, without any territory term,
:26:03. > :26:09.I suppose this falls into that category. If it was a different
:26:10. > :26:16.racial term, people would be in no less doubt what should happen. They
:26:17. > :26:24.are a recognised community, the travelling community. I think he has
:26:25. > :26:27.two accept the responsibility. This situation has happened, there are
:26:28. > :26:32.ref Mike 's, the responsibility of playing international rugby now, you
:26:33. > :26:35.are fully aware of what is said across open mics and he needs to
:26:36. > :26:42.take that sponsor ability to stop we don't quite know how this gets.
:26:43. > :26:48.With, in which direction. -- take that responsibility. The RFU want to
:26:49. > :26:53.draw a line under it, that's what you do, they have said that Joe
:26:54. > :26:56.Marler apologised and was later reminded of his responsibilities as
:26:57. > :27:02.an England player by Eddie Jones. The British and macro officials are
:27:03. > :27:08.aware of the incident and Welsh rugby union says they are pleased
:27:09. > :27:11.about the apology and that Joe Marler was reminded of his
:27:12. > :27:20.responsibilities as an international rugby player. Rugby union pride
:27:21. > :27:21.itself on being a gentlemanly game, it is hard, ferocious, but when you
:27:22. > :27:28.get issues like this, surely they have to act? I think they will they
:27:29. > :27:33.do. I don't think there is any debate, but just don't really know
:27:34. > :27:39.in which direction it's to go. You can't brush it under the carpet. By
:27:40. > :27:43.apologising, he has accepted it is him, he had to deal with what was
:27:44. > :27:52.said in the context and it will be interesting to see what they do.
:27:53. > :28:02.Round of applause for our panel. Wales's under 20s are here. We will
:28:03. > :29:14.talk to Tom and Dan, that show the highlights of this weekend first.
:29:15. > :29:26.The England women are on the brink of a Grand Slam. Wales travel to
:29:27. > :29:31.Ashton Gate, Bristol, looking of a Grand Slam. Wales travel to
:29:32. > :29:34.their first ever under 20 Triple Crown. Coach Jason strange made
:29:35. > :29:42.three changes to the team that beat France. Harry Millard moved to
:29:43. > :29:46.outside centre. Reigning champions England have won just one of their
:29:47. > :29:55.three games this season but have never lost to Wales on home soil.
:29:56. > :30:01.COMMENTATOR: Driving towards the line for Wales, Shaun Evans, has he
:30:02. > :30:11.got it down? A try is awarded. Wales are on the board. The forwards coach
:30:12. > :30:19.will be delighted with what he has seen so far, and this line-out. Here
:30:20. > :30:30.is Giles, to Harry Mill ard, what a score, a second try for Wales.
:30:31. > :30:37.Beautifully conceived. Morgan Williams again directing things at
:30:38. > :30:44.the base. Getting over the advantage line again. Morgan Williams, Dan
:30:45. > :30:55.Jones, the ghosts his way through, a third for Wales. A bit of a
:30:56. > :30:59.paramedics pass that George Perkins did well to take and Wales have
:31:00. > :31:14.space on the left hand side. A little chip. And it bounces kindly
:31:15. > :31:20.for him and Giles is over. Expect a grant and shunt from England. A
:31:21. > :31:25.little bit lateral but now they have some forward momentum. Over the
:31:26. > :31:38.line, Sam Smith was at the bottom of it. Lovely strong scrum by Wales
:31:39. > :31:50.again. Harry Kenney for the posts. Great score by the number eight who
:31:51. > :31:54.has been outstanding to night. What have England got in these closing
:31:55. > :32:04.stages, it is Giles and this is officially a rout for Wales. A sixth
:32:05. > :32:11.try, a second for Giles. Dreamtime is for the Wales under 20s. The
:32:12. > :32:17.metronomic Dan Jones. That is six from six and a first ever away win
:32:18. > :32:21.in England. A lot of the boys have come back from last year, 13 or 14
:32:22. > :32:26.of us with an extra year of experience. The unity and the bond
:32:27. > :32:32.is excellent. Everyone gets on really well. It makes for
:32:33. > :32:37.performances like that. We know we have each other's backs. Wales go
:32:38. > :32:48.for the Grand Slam next week. It is live on scrum V.
:32:49. > :32:56.Well played Wales under 20s, our stars at the bar this evening are
:32:57. > :33:03.Tom Phillips and Dan Jones. Welcome. How proud are you of not only the
:33:04. > :33:07.performance but the squad atmosphere you have right now? It is a massive
:33:08. > :33:12.win for the boys. From the start we have been on food and, the
:33:13. > :33:17.togetherness of the team epitomises the performances we put in. The
:33:18. > :33:20.first three games, they were close. But we knew we would come up with a
:33:21. > :33:26.performance like we did against England. I don't think there is a
:33:27. > :33:30.better time it could have come really, against the Auld enemy. The
:33:31. > :33:35.togetherness of the boys, the coaches making us buying fast rugby
:33:36. > :33:40.came to tipping point and it paid off. Can you describe what it was
:33:41. > :33:50.like to score some many points with the boot against the Auld enemy? I
:33:51. > :33:54.suppose the forwards gave me a platform to work off. A lot of
:33:55. > :33:58.credit goes to them and their hard work during the week. The whole
:33:59. > :34:04.squad really made my job a lot easier. Tom, it will be a fantastic
:34:05. > :34:15.week, on the verge of creating some Grand Slam history? Yes, that is the
:34:16. > :34:21.idea. Had you keep your feet on the ground? All of us have bought into
:34:22. > :34:25.keeping our feet on the ground. It is in the back of our minds but we
:34:26. > :34:32.still have another game. We have to put it in place, look at Italy and
:34:33. > :34:40.put a platform on how to beat them. And hopefully take the Grand Slam.
:34:41. > :34:45.We wish you the best. Let us move from the bar, the Wales women are
:34:46. > :34:50.also here. Unfortunately, no win for them against England. I was looking
:34:51. > :34:53.at the official RBS website and they said you were completely blown away
:34:54. > :35:00.by England, did you see it like that? Not at all, we put ourselves
:35:01. > :35:04.on the back foot in the first half, we slipped off a couple of tackles
:35:05. > :35:07.which put us on the back foot but we had a kick before half-time but then
:35:08. > :35:12.came out in the second half and we were in the game. To the 80th
:35:13. > :35:16.minute, we played as if we were in the game. If we had scored in that
:35:17. > :35:22.last five or ten minutes, we were in a position to win. Definitely a step
:35:23. > :35:28.forward from a couple of years ago. You have made such big strides? We
:35:29. > :35:34.showed good defence against France and good defence in the second half
:35:35. > :35:39.yesterday against England. Going forward and into the last game next
:35:40. > :35:44.week, it is a definite positive for us. Lovely to see you, thanks to the
:35:45. > :35:50.Wales women. Let us bring you up-to-date with what happened with
:35:51. > :35:56.the under 18s, a close one as well. Meeting at the Tolbert athletic
:35:57. > :35:59.ground, a pretty jer Matic finish. Will Jones scored from a well worked
:36:00. > :36:08.driving line-out with just two minutes left. Crucially, Wales
:36:09. > :36:11.missed the conversion. England outside-half James Grayson dropped a
:36:12. > :36:18.match-winning goal to seal it with the last kick of the game. It
:36:19. > :36:26.finished 26-27. Let us get the views of Jonathan Davies on Wales and
:36:27. > :36:31.England and Scotland against France. I thought the first 15 minutes that
:36:32. > :36:36.England were very good. They created a lot of opportunities. And they
:36:37. > :36:41.missed those opportunities. Wales were very passive in defence. The
:36:42. > :36:46.kicking game did not work because they lost the aerial battle. They
:36:47. > :36:53.lost a few crucial line-out so they had no possession, no field
:36:54. > :36:57.position. It was a very poor performance. In saying that, they
:36:58. > :37:01.still created a lot of opportunities. No matter how badly
:37:02. > :37:06.they play, they snuck in and they could have won at the end. Very
:37:07. > :37:12.disappointing overall and it showed what they can do in the last 15
:37:13. > :37:19.minutes when they spread the ball about a bit. Very disappointing, the
:37:20. > :37:26.performance. But they could have lost by more. Scotland today, it has
:37:27. > :37:33.been coming for a while with Scotland. The crucial thing today,
:37:34. > :37:40.they kept going forward and playing and kept the errors out. Because of
:37:41. > :37:45.that, I thought that got them home. They took their chances well, Hogg
:37:46. > :37:52.was superb. But France, individually they'd looked good but collectively,
:37:53. > :37:56.not so good. I can see England beating France next week to win the
:37:57. > :38:02.Grand Slam. That will go down well in the studio. Thanks to Jonathan
:38:03. > :38:06.for taking time to talk to us before we came to a, impressive from
:38:07. > :38:14.Scotland? Impressive today and throughout the tournament. They had
:38:15. > :38:17.against Italy, I said if they beat them, I could see them beating
:38:18. > :38:24.France. They play with tempo and pace. And Hogg gets involved in the
:38:25. > :38:31.game and he has been superb for Scotland. They play with a lot of
:38:32. > :38:35.width and created a lot of problems for a lot of teams. Against Wales
:38:36. > :38:40.force huge parts of that game they were the better team. Really
:38:41. > :38:46.impressed and France today drifted in and out as they often do in the
:38:47. > :38:50.Six Nations. But the best team certainly one. What did you think of
:38:51. > :38:55.France post Philippe Saint Andre? I was quite optimistic, I was a big
:38:56. > :39:03.fan of the replacement after being on the sidelines for some long, he
:39:04. > :39:07.missed the first couple of kicks and because of that, the shrinks a bit.
:39:08. > :39:12.France look like a side, I know people will hate the word but
:39:13. > :39:16.structure. There are a lot of good players in that side, very physical
:39:17. > :39:21.players but nothing underpinning it. When they move, they are all moving
:39:22. > :39:26.in different directions. At times they look awful, for a side with so
:39:27. > :39:32.much ability. In the back of your mind, as France turned up back in
:39:33. > :39:38.Paris and ruined England party, I cannot see how. It gives the
:39:39. > :39:47.credibility to do that. Sadly, I agree. What French team will turn
:39:48. > :39:51.up? You always have to say that with France. I can't remember the last
:39:52. > :39:59.three or four years a decent French team turning up. 30 or 40 matches
:40:00. > :40:05.where they have lost structure. Their coach was wonderful for
:40:06. > :40:10.Toulouse tenures ago, he has got the job too late. The French league is
:40:11. > :40:15.dominating French rugby thinking. I think international rugby is well
:40:16. > :40:26.down the pecking order for them. Will the French stop England's Grand
:40:27. > :40:29.Slam juggernaut? Not a chance. No chance. No. That us turn our
:40:30. > :40:48.attention to Wales's death team. -- def. No big day than Wales
:40:49. > :41:00.against England. He will go for the line. And there have been bad days.
:41:01. > :41:05.It must be a try for England. Today, this greatest of days kicks off here
:41:06. > :41:09.at the Arms Park where the Welsh deaf team take on their English
:41:10. > :41:16.counterparts. There are very few national teams. New Zealand, South
:41:17. > :41:28.Africa and Australia. The English team have improved in the last
:41:29. > :41:31.couple of years. We are Welsh. They say the medication is sick the 70%
:41:32. > :41:38.of the game, much of that is hearing, that is the challenge, so
:41:39. > :41:42.it is a disability and a difficulty and it affects people on the pitch
:41:43. > :41:54.as well as off it. What level do you need to qualify? To say whether
:41:55. > :41:58.someone is deaf enough? There is a 25 decibels average, that means
:41:59. > :42:02.moderate hearing loss, it is surprise and, some people could very
:42:03. > :42:07.well they might never know they have a hearing loss. Some struggle with
:42:08. > :42:18.the 25 decibel average, you'd be surprised how many qualify. The
:42:19. > :42:28.punching, the passion, whatever. We have to keep our focus. That is all
:42:29. > :42:36.I am going to say. Playing rugby helps me a lot. It helps me interact
:42:37. > :42:45.with a wider range of people. It makes me feel like I am part of a
:42:46. > :42:49.genuine community. Quite a few years ago, 2005, I was with the Welsh
:42:50. > :42:53.Guards, when I returned from tour, I had a few incidents and found I had
:42:54. > :42:58.hearing loss. I took it badly and did not play rugby for four years,
:42:59. > :43:05.then came back into it. To find out there were deaf teams, days like
:43:06. > :43:09.today, Cardiff Arms Park, Wales against England, it raises
:43:10. > :43:17.awareness. Facebook groups, twitter, anyone who is hard of hearing or
:43:18. > :43:32.death, please get in touch. -- or who is deaf.
:43:33. > :43:41.Wales were the better team today. Yes, absolutely convincing. They
:43:42. > :43:44.were the better back line and overall, the better team. Wales did
:43:45. > :43:53.what they had to do and we didn't stand up to it. It would have been
:43:54. > :43:59.nice to win. They were competitive but at the end of the day, the
:44:00. > :44:06.result went our way and I think we deserved it.
:44:07. > :44:12.Many congratulations to our deaf team. No Pro12 this weekend but not
:44:13. > :45:13.long until the big one. Those games live on BBC Wales and S4
:45:14. > :45:16.C. Back to the RBS Six Nations, Ireland have been very poor in this
:45:17. > :45:26.year 's championship and yesterday they met Italy. Yellow macro to
:45:27. > :45:30.score 58 points in a Six Nations game, you have to be happy with your
:45:31. > :45:35.finishing. That is one thing we haven't been happy with. Especially
:45:36. > :45:58.in the opposition 22. Today, we were a lot better they.
:45:59. > :46:00.in the opposition 22. Today, we were will help them. Putting it in the
:46:01. > :46:08.context of Italy losing players early in the game, some second rows,
:46:09. > :46:11.that will cause disruptions that make it more difficult to compete.
:46:12. > :46:16.We were afforded more time and space than in recent weeks and that is a
:46:17. > :46:22.luxury at Test match level. At least I felt we took advantage of that
:46:23. > :46:25.luxury and put some good scores together. Being back here
:46:26. > :46:27.luxury and put some good scores little bit of pressure,
:46:28. > :46:31.luxury and put some good scores performed well in the championship.
:46:32. > :46:35.luxury and put some good scores competitive group and they always
:46:36. > :46:39.want to try and produce their best. I think you saw that today and that
:46:40. > :48:26.will be the driving factor next week.
:48:27. > :48:29.will be the driving factor next in situ a year passed the World Cup
:48:30. > :48:33.and it feels like that. You can feel the story coming to an end, no
:48:34. > :48:39.catalyst for looking forward. They missed that opportunity against
:48:40. > :48:42.France and you almost felt, they have to fire above their weight
:48:43. > :48:47.anyway to compete with the other sides, when they lost that emotion.
:48:48. > :48:54.No journey, no future about what happens next, you can feel it
:48:55. > :48:59.windowing away. Today was the end of it already full and Ireland side
:49:00. > :49:02.that desperately needed a win and to win well. Some of the criticism of
:49:03. > :49:08.Ireland is how restrictive they have been. Italy were gone in 20 or 30
:49:09. > :49:12.minutes. They have nothing to hold onto. Bizarrely in this game you
:49:13. > :49:23.need something to hang onto. Italy next for Wales and Sean has been
:49:24. > :49:26.taking a closer look. Let us not forget Wales full-back emphatic
:49:27. > :49:29.victory in the last round of last year 's tournament. Italy have
:49:30. > :49:34.strength and nothing to lose but this is surely the game where Wales
:49:35. > :49:39.unleashed their full attacking potential. Traditionally, the Italy
:49:40. > :49:43.set pieces strong, particularly the maul and Wales's defence has been
:49:44. > :49:46.improved. An effective long wall which is difficult to defend and
:49:47. > :49:52.Wales will have to be careful of giving penalties await. If Italy get
:49:53. > :49:57.close to the line, it is a potent weapon for them. The Italians are
:49:58. > :50:01.also developing a foil to that as well, a very dangerous ball catching
:50:02. > :50:07.ability of Sergio pre-season to either run the ten channel or two
:50:08. > :50:12.fill the void created closer to the ball. Bringing interest runners like
:50:13. > :50:19.scrum-half 's and Windows. The captain aside, their star has been
:50:20. > :50:25.Campagnaro, it could be a threat to Wales and his defensive tackling is
:50:26. > :50:32.very abrasive. He has had some success against Wales. Taking
:50:33. > :50:34.advantage of loose play behind the defence and spotting an interception
:50:35. > :50:44.to score a double at the Millennium Stadium. It is going to be eight I.
:50:45. > :50:49.It is the exploitation of the forward players where Wales can get
:50:50. > :50:53.some massive plusses. In the mid-channels after long defensive
:50:54. > :50:58.sets, they get tired and if Wales can build phases they can be
:50:59. > :51:04.exploited. Look how they have to push off and Finn Russell takes full
:51:05. > :51:08.advantage. Wales have these runners in abundance. The inform scrum-half
:51:09. > :51:11.will take full advantage if the Italian front row leave this much
:51:12. > :51:15.space between them around the fringes. Any line breaks could be
:51:16. > :51:21.crucially finished off by the potent back three of Wales. Cast your way
:51:22. > :51:30.back to last years final round of championship, while's -- Wales's
:51:31. > :51:35.tactics it out perfectly. Great support play from the forwards. This
:51:36. > :51:46.leaves Italy vulnerable and disorganised. If Wales can play with
:51:47. > :51:50.tempo and pace, the Italians will drop off after a long championship
:51:51. > :52:00.and it could be an enjoyable day in Cardiff for the men in red.
:52:01. > :52:06.That was a great game in Rome last year, I cannot think of a time where
:52:07. > :52:13.Wales have been involved in a dead rubber on the final Saturday. It has
:52:14. > :52:19.been a while, that is how competitive they have been in recent
:52:20. > :52:28.years. But not this time. What would you do? Give some fringe players an
:52:29. > :52:32.opportunity? I would not drop down bigger, a few month ago, he was BBC
:52:33. > :52:39.Wales sport personality of the year for his relics in the World Cup.
:52:40. > :52:46.APPLAUSE He is not perfect and he is not as
:52:47. > :52:48.good as Rhys Priestland in the things that Rhys Priestland does
:52:49. > :52:54.well and there are not many people as good as Rhys Priestland -- Rhys
:52:55. > :52:59.Priestland doing that. He is likely to be our future ten for some time.
:53:00. > :53:05.We beat England by 30 points with him at ten and 50 points Italy with
:53:06. > :53:10.him at ten. It is a mindset. When we need to go out and scored tries like
:53:11. > :53:15.we did and the last ten minutes, we play differently. We need to grab
:53:16. > :53:25.some of that in our plan. I do think we need a new right wing, I will say
:53:26. > :53:30.that much. We were in Rome last year and that second-half, when Wales
:53:31. > :53:35.play, they can play. Do we need an ex-factor? Matthew Morgan had a
:53:36. > :53:41.great 30 minutes against Fiji, would you go with him? You are probably
:53:42. > :53:48.fed up of me saying his name, you have a player in your midst, I have
:53:49. > :53:51.trained with a lot of players, he is one of the most attacking players
:53:52. > :53:57.Wales have at the moment. A fantastic talent. Why put him in the
:53:58. > :54:01.squad if you are not even putting him on the bench? It has been
:54:02. > :54:04.frustrating. I know what he is capable of doing, he gives Warren
:54:05. > :54:09.Gatland a heart attack at times with what he does but especially for this
:54:10. > :54:17.game, there is nothing on it, give a guy like Matthew chance and he will
:54:18. > :54:21.create things. Lots of debate in Rugby clubs around the country over
:54:22. > :54:26.whether Rhys Webb should start in place of Gareth Davies. We would not
:54:27. > :54:30.have won at Twickenham without Gareth Davies, fantastic energy
:54:31. > :54:36.levels but do you think this is the perfect opportunity to bring Rhys
:54:37. > :54:42.Webb back in? Spoilt for choice, they are quite similar. They both
:54:43. > :54:45.make a lot of line, they are good around the breakdown and Italy are
:54:46. > :54:51.very poor at defending that. Rhys Webb has from injury, great to see
:54:52. > :54:54.him back on the part, he definitely made an impact. A lot quicker in the
:54:55. > :54:59.breakdown and getting the ball away quicker than Gareth Davies. What a
:55:00. > :55:01.headache to have, maybe we will see Rhys Webb involved and he could
:55:02. > :55:12.bring tempo into the game. When Wales are on the front foot, they
:55:13. > :55:17.are good. I love coming down, you have to remember what has created
:55:18. > :55:21.this level of expectation, it is the way Wales play, the amount of wins
:55:22. > :55:25.in the 6-nation. It is about evolving that forward. You cannot
:55:26. > :55:30.jump to everything being about the last ten minutes. You have to try
:55:31. > :55:34.and find that balance. That is the challenge, Warren Gatland will be
:55:35. > :55:38.aware of that challenge. He will start to move the game, they will
:55:39. > :55:42.just give a different slant on the game. We are out of time but I do
:55:43. > :55:52.need to say that Tomas Francis has in the last unit -- few minutes has
:55:53. > :55:58.been cited. My thanks to you all. Also to the Wales under 20s, bring
:55:59. > :56:04.that Grand Slam home, and to the Wales women. Very disappointing at
:56:05. > :56:10.Twickenham, no wins but now the nation has to get behind the under
:56:11. > :56:21.20s, I grand slam is up for grabs, come on boys. Here is their anthem.
:56:22. > :57:00.Harry Miller ard. That could be a killer blow for Wales.
:57:01. > :57:09.What a score. He ghosts his way through. England have been
:57:10. > :57:20.obliterated.