:00:18. > :00:26.On this special Valentines six Nations weekend, Paris may be the
:00:27. > :00:35.city of love. And he scores! France will take the lead.
:00:36. > :00:43.Rome may well be eternally romantic... Is it going to be a
:00:44. > :00:49.hattrick? Three tries for Jonathan Joseph. And Cardiff... Well, we love
:00:50. > :01:02.it! It is Gareth Davies, all the way to
:01:03. > :01:11.the corner. The scrum-half scores. Wales... All the way, what a try!
:01:12. > :01:15.What a game we are seeing. The turnaround...
:01:16. > :01:31.A very good evening to Scrum V: Six Nations Special. Happy Valentine's
:01:32. > :01:34.Day. If you are a rugby romantic you are going to love the show tonight.
:01:35. > :01:44.We have three of the smoothest operators in world be. Ali Williams
:01:45. > :01:50.is here, Martyn Williams... And we needed a happy Scott on the panel,
:01:51. > :01:58.so we invited Mr Andy Nicol! The star at the bar, is Gareth
:01:59. > :02:06.Jenkins... And we will hear how the Welsh women are doing and the Welsh
:02:07. > :02:12.under 20s. A very good evening. Welcome to a very noisy clubhouse. A
:02:13. > :02:17.warm welcome, ladies and gentlemen, his first appearance... Ali
:02:18. > :02:22.Williams! During macro good to have you. Martin, you were there
:02:23. > :02:28.yesterday, George North said after the game you have to win ugly. It
:02:29. > :02:34.was a strange one. I enjoyed the game, but Wales played very badly in
:02:35. > :02:37.the first half. They are a resilient side, said side, they overpowered
:02:38. > :02:42.Scotland for a 20 minute period. At the end of the day, undefeated in
:02:43. > :02:45.the six Nations, if they win the next three games, they win the
:02:46. > :02:49.championship. What is the view from New Zealand, the coach said they
:02:50. > :02:54.have to dig deep to win matches and that is what they did. We are not
:02:55. > :03:02.that natural, Head Coach is, being Kiwis? I thought it was a great
:03:03. > :03:06.match. At the start, it was a bit messy, they started getting into the
:03:07. > :03:12.rhythm, both sides. I thought the Scots picked up from where they were
:03:13. > :03:16.last week. But, they still have that attacking player, it doesn't seem to
:03:17. > :03:23.be there really, from bull's-eyes. Go for it, back yourself a bit more.
:03:24. > :03:27.What is the Scottish view? Do you feel Wales got lucky yesterday? No,
:03:28. > :03:32.I think we were the better side, no doubt about it, Scotland were better
:03:33. > :03:36.than they were before. It feels there were more positives from that,
:03:37. > :03:41.I know it's picking the bones out of the carcass but there was a lot more
:03:42. > :03:46.attacking flair, it was actually back to what we saw in the World Cup
:03:47. > :03:49.and that is what was disappointing about last week against England.
:03:50. > :03:54.Scotland seemed to regress back into having a lot of ball and not knowing
:03:55. > :03:58.what to do. They had attacking intent yesterday and was good, they
:03:59. > :04:02.needed to play the full 80 minutes, they dropped for 20 minutes in the
:04:03. > :04:05.second half, Wales were able to get their power game and that is
:04:06. > :04:10.ultimately what one then the game. If they can play 80 minutes, they
:04:11. > :04:15.will be OK. We get stuck into the talking point shortly but first, the
:04:16. > :04:19.best of the action, Wales against Scotland from
:04:20. > :04:26.This was a tournament meeting between the sides and Wales had won
:04:27. > :04:31.the last eight. Warren Gatland kept faith in an unchanged team. With Dan
:04:32. > :04:36.Biggar making an rack plus return from his Dublin injury. Scotland
:04:37. > :04:40.arrived on the losing streak with two changes. Duncan Taylor in at
:04:41. > :04:45.centre and Sean Lamont, called up on the wing. Stuart Hogg made more
:04:46. > :04:58.metres and he was red carded. Trying to find his man. Clutching
:04:59. > :05:03.it, despite the attentions of Denton. The number eight is coming
:05:04. > :05:09.together. Davis, gives a dawn. Rob Evans... It comes to Biggar. Bid
:05:10. > :05:18.goes, delicate chip, how does it work? Here comes Davis. And it is
:05:19. > :05:24.Gareth Davies! Over the corner, the scrum-half scores. What a try for
:05:25. > :05:29.Wales, what a try for Gareth Davies. It came from nothing, it came from
:05:30. > :05:31.chaos. 17 phrases for Scotland, great continuity, handling, Richie
:05:32. > :05:37.Gray... Laidlaw flips it to Ross Ford.
:05:38. > :05:50.Heading towards 20 phases. Up to within five metres, Johnny
:05:51. > :05:54.Gray... His brother lends a hand. Russell... And it is a try for
:05:55. > :06:10.Scotland! Tommy Seymour! Into the final minutes. The cries
:06:11. > :06:12.from Wales... It is a penalty to Scotland and again, very similar
:06:13. > :06:20.position to the last one. That is even closer. A chance to lead at the
:06:21. > :06:27.break. Laidlaw... Into the red, the last kick of the first half. The
:06:28. > :06:37.kick, the Scotland captain, gives the visitors the lead at half-time.
:06:38. > :06:45.He delayed and delayed, and was touched on flights, Wales... George
:06:46. > :06:54.North, takes the opportunity, he has support. Swerving and weaving. Big
:06:55. > :06:59.Art racing up... -- Dan Biggar. Carried on...
:07:00. > :07:10.Charteris goes to ground... Tries to get the pass away.
:07:11. > :07:20.Wales with the first points of this second half. We are level again,
:07:21. > :07:33.inside the principality stadium. And away comes John Hardy. Sneaking
:07:34. > :07:41.down the blindside, loses the ball. James... Into the open. Kicking back
:07:42. > :07:48.his heels, he is being hunted down. Covering defence... Still but
:07:49. > :07:53.Wales... The ball is out. Bradley Davies hazard. Got to go wide. They
:07:54. > :08:01.are crying for it out wide. Gareth Davis moves it. A crossfield kick...
:08:02. > :08:06.George North... And he can't quite get his hands on a dime out of goes.
:08:07. > :08:08.What a chance for a break. What a chase and covering tackle by Duncan
:08:09. > :08:18.Taylor. Scotland with a big shove on. Clancy
:08:19. > :08:23.having a long look. Wales still have it. Wales still worth a wonderful
:08:24. > :08:41.opportunity. Bradley Davies... Crashing through... Wales looking to
:08:42. > :08:44.open a gap... And it is Jamie Roberts who gets down. Wales have
:08:45. > :09:04.the lead. Wales with the attack again, George
:09:05. > :09:15.North... All the way... For the try. Wales surely have it now?
:09:16. > :09:23.Tired figures on both sides, trying to find something. Jackson... A
:09:24. > :09:27.chance here. Duncan Taylor... He will score for Scotland. They have
:09:28. > :09:30.not won the match but they finished with a flourish.
:09:31. > :09:43.CHEERING Well Dunwells, we are off the mark.
:09:44. > :09:51.Let's get the verdict. -- well done Wales. A good game, I think Scotland
:09:52. > :09:55.take credit, they defended very well. Quite a few loose kick chases
:09:56. > :10:01.and they put us under pressure. We would keep the ball, I thought Tom
:10:02. > :10:07.James running the length... It would have been nice to score that. A win
:10:08. > :10:11.is a win, fair play to Scotland. Sometime in Test match rugby you
:10:12. > :10:17.have to grind out a win. I said to the boys, you did that. We have
:10:18. > :10:23.weathered the storm. The breakdown was a fight. But you know... We got
:10:24. > :10:29.a win. It is great, the guys like George and Jamie have in key
:10:30. > :10:33.players. Playing great games, the big backs doing well. Massive for us
:10:34. > :10:38.going forward, it is good that the top layers are stepping up at this
:10:39. > :10:44.level. Overall, we rate Scotland high, it is a great home win. We
:10:45. > :10:48.have played a lot of rugby together and we see things. They are patient,
:10:49. > :10:54.they waited and when they got their opportunity, they grabbed it. Things
:10:55. > :10:57.to be taken from that. You have scored plenty of tries in your
:10:58. > :11:04.career but I imagine that felt pretty sweet. A little bit of a
:11:05. > :11:12.wait. Yes. It has been a while, so to speak. Nice to get back in, the
:11:13. > :11:16.game itself was quick. The first half, it was early turnover
:11:17. > :11:20.dominated. The second half, we needed to come out strong, we had 15
:11:21. > :11:24.minutes of pressure. We got the points we needed, at the end of the
:11:25. > :11:28.day, you have to win ugly. You focus one game at a time but the
:11:29. > :11:33.championship is almost back in our hands. We don't have to rely on
:11:34. > :11:40.other results, if we win three out of three, it is ours. A little
:11:41. > :11:43.chuckle here in the studio. Maybe he thought the question was a little
:11:44. > :11:48.bit catty but good to see him on the scoresheet, but Martin, fantastic to
:11:49. > :11:54.see Jamie Roberts showing why he is world class. He was immense against
:11:55. > :12:00.Ireland. Yesterday, his physicality, he runs his weight, he has six feet
:12:01. > :12:05.four and 17 stone and he runs every pound. With the ball, you know the
:12:06. > :12:10.damage she does. He is the defensive captain. He sits down every Monday
:12:11. > :12:17.with Shaun Edwards and discusses tactics, when you are doing that, he
:12:18. > :12:22.lifts the entire team. He has stepped up. In the last year, Jamie
:12:23. > :12:26.has become one of the leaders. A lovely touch, the BBC cameras...
:12:27. > :12:34.Jamie Roberts at the end of the game went over to Blair Cowan to make
:12:35. > :12:38.sure he was OK. He was feeling it. Once a doctor, always a Doctor?
:12:39. > :12:45.Maybe he was trying to get some here? What is your view on the Welsh
:12:46. > :12:50.backline in general? Look, they have definitely got the skill and talent.
:12:51. > :12:54.From an attacking point of view, I don't think George North is 100%, I
:12:55. > :12:58.still think his head is playing with him but it's a step in the right
:12:59. > :13:02.direction. How do you mean, following his concussion? It takes a
:13:03. > :13:06.long time to get over that, subconsciously, it is at the back of
:13:07. > :13:11.your mind, last night was a great game for him to step up at
:13:12. > :13:17.international level. Defensively, they are taking it at line speed. He
:13:18. > :13:20.is the one that is creating the line speed, that is what he is doing,
:13:21. > :13:30.leading it, easier for the rest of the team. They are trying to evolve,
:13:31. > :13:35.trying to go wide. Against Ireland, they created lots of opportunities.
:13:36. > :13:40.They went back to type in the second half, very direct, scoring two
:13:41. > :13:44.tries. A little bit confused, with the World Cup in the southern
:13:45. > :13:49.hemisphere teams... They are trying to evolve but it will not happen
:13:50. > :13:52.overnight. Andy, one of the frustrating things Welsh rugby fans,
:13:53. > :13:55.Shane Williams on our side, we had someone who could score a try when
:13:56. > :14:01.we needed it, a little of magic. One of the stations is in Welsh rugby,
:14:02. > :14:05.where is Shane Williams, the matchwinner. When you saw George
:14:06. > :14:08.North yesterday did you think... He is back on form and that is what
:14:09. > :14:12.Wales need? You were very lucky to have Shane Williams, they be once in
:14:13. > :14:17.a generation player but this break... In the second half, it gave
:14:18. > :14:22.George North confidence. He has not had a lot of ball for Northampton.
:14:23. > :14:28.Last week in Dublin... He took the try very well. When he gets full
:14:29. > :14:33.pace, he is so balanced, he sidesteps, very subtle but I have to
:14:34. > :14:37.say, bad defensive structure. As a second row, a back row, you come out
:14:38. > :14:41.of the scrum and you have to take the channel. He was expecting to be
:14:42. > :14:48.hit by someone and no one laid a finger on him, he too have in stock.
:14:49. > :14:55.Tom James, should have scored? It will be disappointed. He had the
:14:56. > :14:58.angle. I thought he was in, in the box, at the other end, I thought he
:14:59. > :15:03.was in, but he didn't tighten up in the last ten metres. That was a big
:15:04. > :15:08.turning point, Scotland were attacking deep in the 22, knocked it
:15:09. > :15:12.on, the field possession that led to Jamie Roberts tried but Duncan
:15:13. > :15:17.Taylor against Jamie Roberts, Man of the Match, Taylor had a great game.
:15:18. > :15:21.The one big change that Scotland made, brilliant for Saracens all
:15:22. > :15:27.season and he translated that. With Shane Williams, you had a winger who
:15:28. > :15:30.came up wherever he was needed. George North... They are staying on
:15:31. > :15:36.the wing, not coming in and looking for work. That is probably...
:15:37. > :15:39.Whether it is for Warren Gatland is saying, the coach saying I want you
:15:40. > :15:44.to stay out there... Giving them more... You think it might be a
:15:45. > :15:51.coaching thing rather than intuition? Potentially or he is
:15:52. > :15:55.thinking I will stay out of bed and start coming back in. That is for
:15:56. > :16:01.you see the difference, between a world-class... Once in a generation.
:16:02. > :16:07.When a bag is not there, those type of players create space. When he is
:16:08. > :16:19.not feeling the best, perhaps I will pick on him... LAUGHTER let's get on
:16:20. > :16:22.to the Gareth Davies try. I know you boys were in the studio yesterday
:16:23. > :16:27.and you watch this a number of times. Different angles. We show you
:16:28. > :16:32.an angle that we had, but talk us through it. You were adamant this
:16:33. > :16:36.should... A lot of friends... I might not get out here alive but
:16:37. > :16:40.this is not a try for me, Gareth Davies is offside, irrelevant what
:16:41. > :16:47.happens after. Gareth Davies, C is in front of the kicker, he has two
:16:48. > :16:52.stand still... His movement is forward, straightaway, the rest of
:16:53. > :16:56.who goes up first... That is irrelevant, he should have been
:16:57. > :17:02.penalised. As a foreword, how many times have you watched the game, a
:17:03. > :17:06.guy... It goes back to the tent... Doesn't Jamie played on? He may do,
:17:07. > :17:10.but it's irrelevant, the penalty should have been given for Scotland
:17:11. > :17:18.because... It was a brilliant finish. Interesting, you often hear
:17:19. > :17:23.referees... Seven, eight... Stay... He did not do that, great finish,
:17:24. > :17:28.Gareth Davies, the pace he showed to get around Tommy Seymour. Martyn
:17:29. > :17:33.Williams said this... I am getting slaughtered on social media for...
:17:34. > :17:39.And you want him to get slaughtered? Yes! We have got the PM over for a
:17:40. > :17:45.reason, George Clancy, it went upstairs. -- the television match
:17:46. > :17:48.official. The answer to the first question, no, it wasn't a knock-on.
:17:49. > :17:54.We have the official to make the tough decisions and it was tough...
:17:55. > :17:58.And there are certain people, we have looked at the world rugby read
:17:59. > :18:02.website... Bear with me, the offside player runs behind the team-mate who
:18:03. > :18:05.last kicked, touch to carry the ball, the player is put to the
:18:06. > :18:11.side... There are lots of people debating this. Is that in English? I
:18:12. > :18:17.did say, bear with me. APPLAUSE
:18:18. > :18:21.I read the rule book for the first time in 15 years after I retired!
:18:22. > :18:26.It's the most cobbler kidnapping in the world and it's ridiculous, and
:18:27. > :18:29.they ask us, let's crunch under us, support the game, if the players
:18:30. > :18:34.don't understand it, how the hell is anyone else supposed to? What I
:18:35. > :18:37.would like to see, but as real confusing but what is wrong with a
:18:38. > :18:42.coach challenge? That the onus back on the team that is affected and let
:18:43. > :18:46.the coach say, I disagree. Otherwise we are putting it in the hands of
:18:47. > :18:51.the referee and we are all just saying, referee, it's your fault. It
:18:52. > :18:58.doesn't work. We move on, we accept the fact that Wales won it and we
:18:59. > :19:08.move on... Sorry, Scotland. We are going to send Andy home! Let's get
:19:09. > :19:11.the view from Sian hurry. Wales had just a little bit too much for a
:19:12. > :19:16.Scotland team that played well for large parts of the game. The stepped
:19:17. > :19:23.up when it mattered, of the wood was the required result, there is more
:19:24. > :19:27.to come from Wales. There was a great deal of pressure in the
:19:28. > :19:31.Scottish line-out. He got in front of the jumper in the air, Luke
:19:32. > :19:36.Charteris did the damage on the floor, not the greatest technique
:19:37. > :19:40.from Alun-Wyn Jones, Charteris and his long limbs and back, through the
:19:41. > :19:44.Scottish malt and catches hold of the ball, making it difficult for
:19:45. > :19:48.possession. An improved player, the driving maul is a huge threat, he's
:19:49. > :19:53.invaluable in the middle, looks how he wraps up the ball with the aid of
:19:54. > :19:58.Sam Warburton. He stays in there, putting his body on the line. The
:19:59. > :20:01.pressure told on Scotland, this resulted in a set of important
:20:02. > :20:08.scrums, they have the opportunity in the wider travel. We need to take
:20:09. > :20:13.these a little bit better. But we got a penalty, credit to Sam
:20:14. > :20:23.Warburton for going for the scrum. The decision paid off, the doctor
:20:24. > :20:26.brought his slide rule to work. The awesome angle picked by the Man of
:20:27. > :20:31.the Match gave Wales their second try but there is still homework for
:20:32. > :20:35.Wales. Do we need fly half Dan Biggar catching these at the risk of
:20:36. > :20:41.injury? We have lost a kicker and there is a lot of bodies on the
:20:42. > :20:46.floor and out of the chase line. Gareth Davies needs wider blockers
:20:47. > :20:51.for protection. Johnny Gray has a clear run for a charge down here.
:20:52. > :20:55.When we come to play England, Steve Borthwick, knowing him as I do, they
:20:56. > :20:58.will target this area for a charge down and who could forget after the
:20:59. > :21:03.Lloyd Williams kick, what happened in Ireland. Enter George North, the
:21:04. > :21:07.movement of the Welsh backs causing a heavy drift from Scotland, he
:21:08. > :21:15.comes on a different angle. Greig Laidlaw has to cover the inside if
:21:16. > :21:17.the channel is left, John Hardy is flanker, gets on the outside of
:21:18. > :21:22.George North and makes a weakened side tackle. The overcook it,
:21:23. > :21:28.instead of filling the inside, where Cameron on the blindside, taking
:21:29. > :21:37.full advantage of this. The master blaster was back to his best.
:21:38. > :21:41.According to Sean Holley, but more work on the finer detail. Martin,
:21:42. > :21:45.over the past two years, one thing we learned from Wales, they are
:21:46. > :21:50.quick to defend the ball well at the break down. Why are we conceding too
:21:51. > :21:55.many turnovers? It's an attacking issue, we are not attacking well,
:21:56. > :21:59.Scotland are very hard and Hardy was brilliant at spoiling the ball. An
:22:00. > :22:05.area we haven't been as good in the first two games, in turnovers and
:22:06. > :22:12.stealing the ball, it used to be our strongest point. What is happening?
:22:13. > :22:20.Probably not quite working. There are two guys not in the starting 15.
:22:21. > :22:24.The number six, Dan Elliott... Other guys, they have the ability to get
:22:25. > :22:29.the ball and then there is Gethin Jenkins, the last decade, how many
:22:30. > :22:32.crucial turnovers has he won? We had taken two guys who are crucial out
:22:33. > :22:38.of the starting team. He needs to keep playing the starting line-up,
:22:39. > :22:41.but definitely, we need to sharpen up, especially against France, the
:22:42. > :22:44.French guys, we are looking ahead, they are lazy and there will be
:22:45. > :22:51.opportunities. I expect them to go back. You make a great point about
:22:52. > :22:56.Gethin Jenkins, many times do we see him trying to win the ball? So many.
:22:57. > :22:59.The interesting thing, other countries who play with two
:23:00. > :23:05.sevens... It is working for them so why not Wales? It has to suit what
:23:06. > :23:09.you are trying to do, the tactics you adopt. In the northern
:23:10. > :23:15.hemisphere we follow what they do in the south so often, Australia have
:23:16. > :23:19.Pocock and Hooper. It has to be suited to what you are doing. That
:23:20. > :23:26.game yesterday, it was right, that there were four sevens in the pit in
:23:27. > :23:29.Hardy and Berkeley for Scotland. And with Warburton and to be, that is
:23:30. > :23:34.what they are trying to do but against France, that might be
:23:35. > :23:43.difficult. It is all about the balance. Too much sometimes, it is
:23:44. > :23:47.made about the shirt number, 1-15 you have to be strong over the ball
:23:48. > :23:53.and how many terminals come out in the centre? -- how many turnovers.
:23:54. > :23:57.It is not just the domain of seven, it used to be but it's no
:23:58. > :24:02.across-the-board. Ali, what would you do? I would go further back and
:24:03. > :24:07.the style you are playing and defending... If you notice, Southern
:24:08. > :24:12.Hemisphere, we will chop tackle, goal, that gives you opportunity to
:24:13. > :24:16.turn over. If you are riding high in taking the fiscal contact pie, you
:24:17. > :24:20.are eliminating the turnover opportunities, when you talk about
:24:21. > :24:24.picking the team and things like that, pick your style in terms of
:24:25. > :24:28.how you defend. Watch Australia, they chop tackle, they don't take
:24:29. > :24:34.you on physically up top, they take you on so they can get Hooper and
:24:35. > :24:37.Pocock. To me, it doesn't matter what your players is, the make-up of
:24:38. > :24:41.your players, it's how you want to tackle, do you want to be a turnover
:24:42. > :24:47.team are a team that confronts them and forces them back? Look... To
:24:48. > :24:50.number sevens, number six is, I dump it makes a difference. Half the
:24:51. > :24:56.front row was probably the best at turning it over. There's been a
:24:57. > :24:58.really positive move to get Justin Tipuric and Sam Warburton in the
:24:59. > :25:04.team in an attacking sense but I don't think it's working. And it has
:25:05. > :25:09.worked in the past, 30-3 against England, the front five were
:25:10. > :25:13.dominant in that game. When it is an arm wrestle like it was yesterday,
:25:14. > :25:18.perhaps they don't stand out as much as we would hope. Andy, can I ask
:25:19. > :25:22.you about Scotland, Vern Cotter pooed on a brave face in the post
:25:23. > :25:26.match interview, said I don't like losing but what I see is a lot of
:25:27. > :25:31.bravery but we need to stop conceding points. No championship
:25:32. > :25:40.wins for him, he must be frustrated? Very much so. Nine on the bounce. --
:25:41. > :25:43.Vern Cotter put on a brave face. You have to back your process and the
:25:44. > :25:47.tactics that you have and that's why it said earlier, yesterday was much
:25:48. > :25:52.better. There's a lot to build on for two weeks against deadly, if
:25:53. > :25:56.Scotland played like they play yesterday, consistent throughout the
:25:57. > :25:59.entire team and game, not have a drop-off, I think the next two games
:26:00. > :26:03.are winnable against Italy and France but not only to keep it at
:26:04. > :26:06.this level and get better, go back to what they did last week, it could
:26:07. > :26:11.be a while until they get their first win. I will take a little walk
:26:12. > :26:18.to the bar... I am not having a beer. I want to introduce you to
:26:19. > :26:23.this man, Garin Jenkins. What have you got? Good to see you.
:26:24. > :26:26.CHEERING I would say happy Valentine's Day
:26:27. > :26:33.but people will start talking. Have you had a good day? Pretty good,
:26:34. > :26:38.yes. It's never quiet. Let's talk about yesterday. So important that
:26:39. > :26:41.Wales got the win. Immensely important, as the boy said, a great
:26:42. > :26:46.game and I enjoyed being part of it, watching it, it was a great win. And
:26:47. > :26:53.one that we deserved to get in the end. Fantastic newspaper article
:26:54. > :26:57.last week about Scott Baldwin, how impressed have you been? He's played
:26:58. > :27:04.well. The World Cup, he was fantastic. I think... But is if you
:27:05. > :27:10.little things we need to tweak, the boys talking about the contact. I
:27:11. > :27:16.feel that... You know, it's an area, maybe, that the front five can
:27:17. > :27:20.contribute a little bit more. I know a lot of the debate is about the
:27:21. > :27:26.combination on the back row but as Martin said, I think it's a big onus
:27:27. > :27:30.on one, two and three, in that area, especially that France are
:27:31. > :27:36.especially strong, we need to get boys up to do the primary role, and
:27:37. > :27:41.outside the primary role. Very often we talk about strength in depth, and
:27:42. > :27:45.it cost us in the World Cup, let's be honest when we lost players, we
:27:46. > :27:51.found ourselves out of the World Cup so how fantastic is it that we have
:27:52. > :27:55.someone like ones? I'm a believer, it may be simplistic, but it's
:27:56. > :27:59.horses for courses. Ali talks about the chop tackle, it's about
:28:00. > :28:05.processes not personalities. Martin mentioned Gethin Jenkins, you might
:28:06. > :28:09.think I've had a lot of bombs on the head, Rob Evans... He nearly hit me
:28:10. > :28:18.down into Caernarfon from clinically. Condolences another one.
:28:19. > :28:26.He may come in to start. It is a 23 man squad. Gethin Jenkins he will
:28:27. > :28:30.make it messy. He did immensely well to come back. But we have been on
:28:31. > :28:35.the back foot for the first 30 minutes, Conor Murray had an
:28:36. > :28:38.armchair ride at the Aviva Stadium. Laidlaw yesterday... We cannot
:28:39. > :28:43.afford to get that far behind against good teams that will put us
:28:44. > :28:48.to the sword. Maybe there is a train of thought from myself, start with
:28:49. > :28:53.Gethin Jenkins... He is world class. A fantastic surname as well extra
:28:54. > :28:58.mission mark LAUGHTER but what I am saying, look at Rob Evans, Kendall
:28:59. > :29:03.once, when he came on, the Scottish back five yesterday, carried very
:29:04. > :29:09.well. You had Berkeley, hardy... And they carried and they caused us
:29:10. > :29:13.problems. I am not a statistical man. You can get wrapped up in
:29:14. > :29:21.statistics but I think people like Ken Owens... They get us going
:29:22. > :29:25.forward. Horses for courses. England got off to a winning start at
:29:26. > :29:30.Murrayfield last week, could they match that in Italy? England rocked
:29:31. > :29:36.up in Rome having never lost a Six Nations match to Italy. Eddie Jones
:29:37. > :29:46.made three changes, Mako Vunipola coming into the starting line-up.
:29:47. > :29:52.This man caught the eye in the first round, becoming the first Italian to
:29:53. > :29:57.score a try, conversion, penalty, and drop goal in the single match.
:29:58. > :30:13.COMMENTATOR: Again England go high. Mike Brown got a hand in. Italy are
:30:14. > :30:17.under real pressure in front of their posts. England have the
:30:18. > :30:25.advantage, they have a turnover opportunity as well. Billy Vunipola.
:30:26. > :30:37.Owen Farrell on the switch, George Ford. Jackson text with the touch
:30:38. > :30:45.judge, try awarded. Parisse controls it and picks up and charges at Ben
:30:46. > :30:51.Youngs. Penalty advantage Italy. Robshaw with a strong tackle. He
:30:52. > :31:02.goes on his own. Do not show me that or I will
:31:03. > :31:12.penalised you for a high tackle. Delicately puts over the penalty.
:31:13. > :31:38.The gap narrows. That is a good kick by Jack Nowell.
:31:39. > :31:49.Bellini gets the pass away and it's a simple gift. He won't score an
:31:50. > :31:58.easier try than that for anybody. Good control in the maul. An arty
:31:59. > :32:00.advantage for England. Care comes away with it. Jonathan Joseph with
:32:01. > :32:22.try number two. Overthrown. Parisse comes away with
:32:23. > :32:30.it. Instantly involved. Leave it! Knock-on. Excellent work by Joe
:32:31. > :32:38.Launchbury. Paul Hill comes away with it. And now the backs. Joseph.
:32:39. > :32:48.Will it be a hat-trick? Three tries for Jonathan Joseph.
:32:49. > :32:55.Advantage, offside. That is a penalty advantage for England.
:32:56. > :33:04.Getting over the advantage line. Beautiful off-load. This is more
:33:05. > :33:10.like it. We got the result and it was satisfying. We knew we would
:33:11. > :33:13.open them up in the last 20. No doubt it was always going to be
:33:14. > :33:18.difficult at the start, we let them back into the game with a few silly
:33:19. > :33:23.errors and discipline is a huge thing to work on. We have been with
:33:24. > :33:29.the BBC out in Rome many times, Italy against England, Scotland,
:33:30. > :33:35.Wales, Ireland, they start well but then they fall apart. That was a
:33:36. > :33:41.competent performance by England which got better as the game went
:33:42. > :33:46.on. Italy had the chance to take the lead and they missed it and that has
:33:47. > :33:50.been symptomatic of their play. His kicking leaves a lot to be desired.
:33:51. > :33:56.Two minutes later they threw a horrendous pass for Joseph's first
:33:57. > :34:01.try. Then England got confidence, Danny Care had a good influence and
:34:02. > :34:05.so did the bench. Ultimately they finished it off. That's a great win
:34:06. > :34:10.away from home and the confidence that will give them, scoring those
:34:11. > :34:16.tries and the impact of the bench, two games without conceding a try.
:34:17. > :34:23.That is worrying when they have that strength in depth. Unfortunately
:34:24. > :34:28.they did look good. They seem to have signed a shrewd coach in Eddie
:34:29. > :34:31.Jones. The bench looked really strong, similar to Wales yesterday,
:34:32. > :34:36.the bench makes a massive difference. They tried to play open
:34:37. > :34:43.and expansive rugby. I think we will get a lot of joy out of that. I
:34:44. > :34:52.think they looked dangerous. Watson was phenomenal on the wing. There is
:34:53. > :34:56.a balance issue in the back row. You played against Eddie Jones and his
:34:57. > :35:01.sides, was that an astute appointment? What have you made of
:35:02. > :35:04.the opening couple of weeks? It's a decision that they went within terms
:35:05. > :35:12.of going out of the national pool and they have good coaches in
:35:13. > :35:18.England. You can see what he has done, both of the victories were
:35:19. > :35:25.defence orientated. Not by the back row, as much, more by the props.
:35:26. > :35:29.That's where their points are coming from. That is the easiest thing for
:35:30. > :35:34.a coach to implement straightaway. He has got a huge part to play, the
:35:35. > :35:40.defensive coach. They looked good. They can only get better. He is
:35:41. > :35:44.bringing some depth. Like any southern hemisphere coach, they want
:35:45. > :35:49.time, they are used to having time to build and develop the culture,
:35:50. > :36:01.structure, and mindsets within their players. Vern has had it for a few
:36:02. > :36:05.years and they are used to having chance to develop things and that is
:36:06. > :36:11.what he is looking for. The English press won't give him that time,
:36:12. > :36:14.trust me. Our reporter has had a busy weekend rounding up the under
:36:15. > :36:24.20s and the women. The under-20s had a storming win
:36:25. > :36:28.last weekend, scoring four tries in Dublin was Marco Donadel Stadium.
:36:29. > :36:30.Here in Colwyn Bay this week, the Welsh coach has made three changes
:36:31. > :36:42.to the team who went out in Ireland. The driving line-out has proved a
:36:43. > :36:47.potent weapon for Scotland and it is proving so again. Rumbling towards
:36:48. > :36:51.the touchline. A try is surely inevitable. They get over the line
:36:52. > :36:56.and Matt Smith urges down for the men in blue. Wales are going to
:36:57. > :37:02.Scotland what Scotland have done to them, pushing closer to the Scottish
:37:03. > :37:07.line. They sprint over, and it is Shaun Evans, the Welsh openside. The
:37:08. > :37:15.Scots powered over again just before the break, McCullen was the scorer.
:37:16. > :37:22.Wales hit back just after half-time. COMMENTATOR: Jones, out to Millard.
:37:23. > :37:26.Lovely pass. The youngster cuts back inside. Joe Thomas, inches away from
:37:27. > :37:33.the try line as Scotland's defence desperately. Who wants it? Surely
:37:34. > :37:43.the try is inevitable. There it is, Tom Phillips bundles over from close
:37:44. > :37:45.range, the captain. Showing a clean pair of heels to the defence, Wales
:37:46. > :37:53.are back on level terms. A penalty two minutes from time by
:37:54. > :37:59.the replacement Billy McBride was the clincher. He had been on the
:38:00. > :38:04.pitch for less than a minute. The courage and the character that the
:38:05. > :38:08.players showed, particularly in the second half in difficult
:38:09. > :38:11.circumstances, lots of inexperienced players tonight did themselves
:38:12. > :38:17.proud. For Billy to do that with a minute to go is testament to him,
:38:18. > :38:22.you know. That win puts Wales second in the table behind the leaders
:38:23. > :38:30.France. The only sides with a 100% record in the championship so far.
:38:31. > :38:42.Les Bleus Will be the visitors to Wales in a few weeks' time.
:38:43. > :38:47.The Welsh women were looking to bounce back from their defeat in
:38:48. > :38:52.Ireland last weekend, the Wales coach Rhys Edwards has made four
:38:53. > :38:56.changes to the starting 15 and Phillips was the captain for the
:38:57. > :39:01.first time in the absence of the injured Rachael Taylor. Scotland
:39:02. > :39:05.took the early lead, and Wales hit back with a converted try. The Welsh
:39:06. > :39:11.pack showing their strength with a driving maul. Harris crossed for the
:39:12. > :39:17.opening try. Wilkins added the extras. The centre Wilkins put the
:39:18. > :39:21.home side further ahead with a penalty and despite Scotland
:39:22. > :39:25.crossing for a try just after half an hour, the conversion would prove
:39:26. > :39:29.to be their last points of the game with Wales going into the break with
:39:30. > :39:36.a 15-10 lead after Hannah Jones making a great run on the wing to
:39:37. > :39:39.cross-border second. Wilkins increased the Welsh advantage to
:39:40. > :39:46.eight points before they celebrated their third try of the day. -- to
:39:47. > :39:50.cross for their second. A much-needed win for the Welsh team.
:39:51. > :39:54.Very pleased and obviously disappointed about last week 's
:39:55. > :40:00.score. Do come back and bounce back with a win is massive. No change in
:40:01. > :40:02.the table as Wales remain fourth. Their next opponents in a fortnight
:40:03. > :40:19.France stay at the top. APPLAUSE A clean sweep for Wales, the under
:40:20. > :40:25.20 team, and the men and women winning. Good evening. Is it true
:40:26. > :40:33.you have come out of the ice Bath? We had four minutes. Just four? It
:40:34. > :40:36.was so cold this week. You have won today, has there been much
:40:37. > :40:40.contemplation in the week in the camp about the defeat and getting
:40:41. > :40:46.off to a winning start? We absolutely had to win and we are
:40:47. > :40:50.chuffed with the result, 23-10. Just really happy, we could improve our
:40:51. > :40:57.performance in places and we have to improve going to France in a few
:40:58. > :41:02.weeks' time. What sort of improvements off the top of your
:41:03. > :41:06.head from today? We gave away too many turnovers, and we made a few
:41:07. > :41:11.handling mistakes. We still played some really nice rugby out wide. We
:41:12. > :41:19.got a few tries as well. Wonderful. We wish you the best. Jason Strange
:41:20. > :41:24.was on that report and he is back here. A fantastic end to the team?
:41:25. > :41:28.Fantastic for the team and for Billy, I'm pleased with the wins
:41:29. > :41:32.against Scotland and Ireland, and it sets it up nicely for the French
:41:33. > :41:36.game. Players deserve a lot of credit for performing really well in
:41:37. > :41:40.the first two games, and we need to take that forward for the rest of
:41:41. > :41:46.the tournament. Great that Robbie was there as well. Yes, Billy,
:41:47. > :41:50.making his debut was a fantastic moment and that is something he will
:41:51. > :41:55.remember for a long time. Did you invite the BBC cameras into the
:41:56. > :42:00.dressing room? You might regret it. Amazing scenes. You do have a
:42:01. > :42:03.remarkable team spirit? It's important that the players enjoy
:42:04. > :42:10.those moments and we encourage that, we want the team spirit to be very
:42:11. > :42:16.good. It was epitomised on Friday evening. You are worried about what
:42:17. > :42:19.we have got! Yes. You are wondering what on earth the cameras picked up.
:42:20. > :42:28.Thank you for joining us. Let's round up the Pro12 action. The lead
:42:29. > :42:33.changed hands six times at Rodney Parade on Thursday. They temporarily
:42:34. > :42:37.went to the top of the table. The Dragons went into the break with a
:42:38. > :42:45.1-point lead thanks in part to this try from Ashton Hewitt. The Connacht
:42:46. > :42:50.'s foreword power told in the end. They came away with a narrow win.
:42:51. > :42:53.The Scarlets kept their hopes alive on Friday and they looked in control
:42:54. > :43:07.Eoin Morgan Alain Prost after five minutes. -- crossed. That will be so
:43:08. > :43:11.disappointing. Very welcome. They came from 19-6 down to take the lead
:43:12. > :43:17.and they needed a late penalty in another close finish. He succeeded
:43:18. > :43:28.with three so far. That is the most important of the lot. It puts the
:43:29. > :43:31.Scarlets ahead. Another tight finish this weekend as Treviso celebrated
:43:32. > :43:38.their first win of the season which came at the expense of the Blues.
:43:39. > :43:43.There is a man over now. Scully in the corner. It's a try for the
:43:44. > :43:46.Blues, finally. The Blues failed to take several chances in the second
:43:47. > :43:50.half and the referee finally lost patience with their scrum. That's
:43:51. > :44:01.enough to win them another penalty. The referee is gone beneath the
:44:02. > :44:06.posts. That is a penalty try. Sam Davies scored 16 points for the
:44:07. > :44:09.Ospreys as they celebrated a fine win in Cork this afternoon. This try
:44:10. > :44:16.gave them the lead for the first time. There is something on here.
:44:17. > :44:22.Sam Davies plays it to Watkin and he stretches into the corner. Rhys Webb
:44:23. > :44:28.made an appearance off the bench but his return was cut short after an
:44:29. > :44:32.accidental clash of heads. The Ospreys now close the gap on
:44:33. > :44:38.sixth-place Munster but the top is still incredibly tight with a point
:44:39. > :44:41.separating the top four. The Blues and Dragons remain ninth and 10th
:44:42. > :44:47.respectively. Great to see Rhys Webb back and we hope his head injury
:44:48. > :44:50.isn't too bad. Let's get back to the Six Nations, Paul O'Connell retired
:44:51. > :44:54.from international rugby this week and Ireland went to Paris looking
:44:55. > :44:59.for their first win of the tournament. Ireland arrived in the
:45:00. > :45:04.City of love in rude health with fit again Sean O'Brien and Rob Carney
:45:05. > :45:08.returning to the starting 15. And the talismanic number ten Jonny
:45:09. > :45:12.Sexton recovered from his knock against Wales. Four changes upfront
:45:13. > :45:20.and two behind. Still advantage Ireland. O'Brien.
:45:21. > :45:33.Murray looks out towards Sexton. That is a safe catch. No advantage.
:45:34. > :45:57.We will go back for the penalty. They drop the ball, so we will go
:45:58. > :45:59.back to the penalty. That is a completely late cheap shot. Yes, and
:46:00. > :46:23.right in front of the referee. Straight by Sexton. Sexton, coming
:46:24. > :46:27.Dave Carney's way. Here he is again. He has been stripped and has lost it
:46:28. > :46:35.forward. It's advantage being played. Henshaw sets it up.
:46:36. > :47:08.Sexton, very safely... He slid delivers it and Tommy O'Donnell
:47:09. > :47:15.heads for the French midfield. There is the switch. O'Donnell has worked
:47:16. > :47:26.well. A Wacom France. Here is Fekitoa. Did that go forward? It
:47:27. > :47:35.did. But at last France break loose on turnover ball. Nearly up to the
:47:36. > :47:43.70 minute mark and France have their best opportunity. It comes out
:47:44. > :47:50.quickly. Maxime has scored and the conversion is easy and France will
:47:51. > :47:55.take the lead. Is that the championship defence over for
:47:56. > :48:01.Ireland? It leaves it very hard, obviously. No wins in the first two
:48:02. > :48:05.games. We may have to reassess but I think if we look at the second half,
:48:06. > :48:09.we just did not quite get the dominance that we had in the first,
:48:10. > :48:15.and we could not turn the dominance of the first half in two more
:48:16. > :48:20.points. It's hard to know the answer to that question but we look at it
:48:21. > :48:23.as a massive missed opportunity. Yes, that's exactly what Joe Smit
:48:24. > :48:27.said after the game, they had chances and they should have taken
:48:28. > :48:39.them. This is how the Six Nations table looks. Scotland and Italy are
:48:40. > :48:43.still looking for their first wins. England are unbeaten and looking
:48:44. > :48:47.formidable. Decimated by injuries, Ireland, and Joe Smit said in the
:48:48. > :48:52.second half they were isolated far too often. And the French, that was
:48:53. > :48:58.pretty physical? They targeted Sexton illegally on some occasions,
:48:59. > :49:03.pretty old school. That is just a cheap shot. Hopefully he will be
:49:04. > :49:07.banned for that. That is dangerous. It is physical and that's what you
:49:08. > :49:12.get from the French. The Top 14 is attritional. Ireland have lost many
:49:13. > :49:16.players before the tournament and key players as well. Its last man
:49:17. > :49:21.standing for them going forward. They are in a tough place. The
:49:22. > :49:27.French are an emotional side and that's what we love about them. The
:49:28. > :49:31.physicality purely comes from emotion. They know Jonny Sexton and
:49:32. > :49:36.they have seen him and played against him and they targeted that.
:49:37. > :49:42.But I think they just really lifted themselves physically. They are
:49:43. > :49:45.excited and they want to do something under their new coach.
:49:46. > :49:50.Whether he is the right option, I don't know, but they want to do
:49:51. > :49:53.something. He has been around for a long time and he had success while
:49:54. > :49:59.back, probably not much current success. But it's a beautiful place.
:50:00. > :50:03.LAUGHTER You are happier talking about the
:50:04. > :50:07.geography and the landscape and the red wine rather than the rugby.
:50:08. > :50:12.APPLAUSE Given what we have seen there, that
:50:13. > :50:18.bit of tape where you see the French brutality, will they be lining up a
:50:19. > :50:22.few of the Welsh boys? You always get that physicality but there is
:50:23. > :50:26.legal and illegal physicality. That was obviously illegal. They were
:50:27. > :50:31.very abrasive and you are going to get that, but so are Wales. It will
:50:32. > :50:37.be a big physical encounter week on Friday. Going back to Ireland, a bit
:50:38. > :50:41.like Wales and Scotland, Ireland don't have the same pool of players
:50:42. > :50:45.of England and France. As soon as you get a few injuries you are
:50:46. > :50:49.digging deep into your resources and they are finding it difficult. They
:50:50. > :50:55.had huge success, winning the Championship the last few years.
:50:56. > :50:59.They are not going to win from this stage. They just need to get people
:51:00. > :51:05.back onto the field of play, Sean O'Brien should have given them a
:51:06. > :51:09.lift. The provinces are not playing great at the moment, so none of them
:51:10. > :51:12.have got into the quarterfinals of the Champions Cup. There are a few
:51:13. > :51:16.questions about Ireland and they have not had these questions for the
:51:17. > :51:20.past few years. It will be interesting to see how they react.
:51:21. > :51:25.You have some battles with the French over the years? Just a
:51:26. > :51:31.couple. Will they try to rough them up? They are very physical but I
:51:32. > :51:35.really believe that if we get messy and the contact area they are good
:51:36. > :51:43.on the front foot. Was that really you?! APPLAUSE
:51:44. > :51:52.You didn't see the changing room after. I think if we make it messy
:51:53. > :51:56.and test the temperament, on the front foot at the set piece, they
:51:57. > :52:01.can be effective, but if our front five carry in the first 25 minutes,
:52:02. > :52:05.get the French on the back foot and step outside the threats from the
:52:06. > :52:10.defenders, we can get them on the back foot and test their
:52:11. > :52:12.temperament. Did you edit that? Was that really you? I have my own
:52:13. > :52:26.production firm! Very good. Now, here on the Six
:52:27. > :52:32.Nations special we like to look at the off the wall moments. This is
:52:33. > :52:37.Did You See That? There are still fire breathing Dragons in North
:52:38. > :52:41.Wales. Wales is still the land of Song, but only just. Before
:52:42. > :52:52.attempting a solo, make sure you know the words. He has just ruined
:52:53. > :52:56.Neil Diamond's Sweet Caroline. We know that Edwards had a Chinese last
:52:57. > :53:05.night, there he is, putting his order in. Anyone spot Gavin Henson
:53:06. > :53:10.running the line? Nice legs. Jake Ball takes a penalty for Italy
:53:11. > :53:14.today. And love was in the air at the stadium is this young man
:53:15. > :53:25.proposed, we don't have your names, but get in touch and we will offer
:53:26. > :53:30.your congratulations. APPLAUSE How cameras are watching you and it
:53:31. > :53:33.could be you next time. We are here after Wales versus France.
:53:34. > :53:37.Interesting talk about discipline, that is the thing that Shaun Edwards
:53:38. > :53:44.has drilled into the side. It's a big thing, when he first came in, I
:53:45. > :53:47.can remember a few guys like Alun Wyn Jones and Lee Byrne getting
:53:48. > :53:52.yellow cards and they were hung out to dry. You can give the odd
:53:53. > :53:58.technical penalty away but they won't put up with ill discipline.
:53:59. > :54:02.Jonathan Davies and Luke Charteris are currently heading back to France
:54:03. > :54:07.where there will be matches. Do you think they will play them, the
:54:08. > :54:11.French clubs? They'd every care that Wales have a match. No, that is the
:54:12. > :54:23.structure. -- they don't really care. The French word really care. I
:54:24. > :54:27.have alliances with Racing. You have to look at who governs and owns the
:54:28. > :54:31.players and the control you have over them. The French Top 14 and the
:54:32. > :54:35.French league is a runaway train at the moment. Somebody has to do
:54:36. > :54:44.something. We will see what happens. This is the week that Gatland wants
:54:45. > :54:48.his players in Wales so that they don't go off to play for the French
:54:49. > :54:57.plebs. That is what the national coaches want but only certain ones
:54:58. > :55:00.can get it. -- the French clubs. We will have the same in Scotland,
:55:01. > :55:06.players will go to England and France and have to play. These have
:55:07. > :55:11.been two really physical weekends. The rugby has not been fantastic but
:55:12. > :55:16.really physical. Have you seen Luke Charteris, has he improved since
:55:17. > :55:21.going to France? I think so. In the past two years he has got a bad
:55:22. > :55:24.book. He now has confidence when running with the ball which is
:55:25. > :55:29.always a sign of when a player feels his body, so to speak, in terms of
:55:30. > :55:38.his body. He is running with the brawl which is an amazing sight,
:55:39. > :55:43.like a drunken giraffe! -- with the ball. It's also the set piece that
:55:44. > :55:47.has really developed, in the line-outs he is probably one of the
:55:48. > :55:53.most destructive in the defensive line. Especially in the French
:55:54. > :55:55.league. In the all on the scrum, the line-out, those arms are getting
:55:56. > :56:02.into places that should not really be there. He causes havoc. I think
:56:03. > :56:07.Gatland is concerned that the guys are playing away, to be honest. He
:56:08. > :56:15.will vouch for this, they don't train as well as they should in
:56:16. > :56:18.France. He can vouch for this! They are not as professional off the
:56:19. > :56:21.field and that is where they fall down and he is concerned about the
:56:22. > :56:26.Welsh players because it's a big part of the well set up. I think
:56:27. > :56:31.Luke Charteris is the one player whose game has definitely developed.
:56:32. > :56:36.-- the Welsh setup. We have just seen that head injury, if he is fit
:56:37. > :56:41.would Gatland bring him back in? Fairly soon, he had 20 minutes today
:56:42. > :56:46.and he will probably get a game next week. Probably on the bench. Davies
:56:47. > :56:51.has been in a good period since Rhys Webb has been out. Rhys Webb needs
:56:52. > :56:56.longer. We will reassess after the French game. It is like a David
:56:57. > :57:00.Beckham metatarsal worry for the Welsh public about Dan Biggar, are
:57:01. > :57:05.the Welsh too reliant on him? We saw in Dublin that Rhys Priestland can
:57:06. > :57:11.still do a good job. He has been much maligned over here for some
:57:12. > :57:18.reason. I always rated him highly. Dan Biggar was quiet yesterday. What
:57:19. > :57:21.you saw yesterday was great, while Britain and Alun Wyn Jones and Dan
:57:22. > :57:32.Biggar were quiet but Robbins stepped up. He is a class player. I
:57:33. > :57:43.need three country titles, who will win? Just pick one! The Welsh. One
:57:44. > :57:52.country to win the title. England. BOOING
:57:53. > :57:56.What?! Can sell his BBC contract! I said before the Six Nations that it
:57:57. > :57:59.would be Wales and I will keep saying Wales. CHEERING
:58:00. > :58:10.Thank you very much indeed. Thank you for joining us. That's it from
:58:11. > :58:11.us, we will see you after France. Happy Valentine's Day. Love is in
:58:12. > :58:15.the air!