:00:21. > :00:29.Late the second weekend of the Six Nations, it Wales and England in
:00:30. > :00:34.Cardiff. Wales take an early lead in the Principality Stadium. The Welsh
:00:35. > :00:44.defence still holding out, until now. Which way for Webb, left or
:00:45. > :00:58.right? Left, on his own. Never trust a scrum-half. He knocks it on. Wales
:00:59. > :01:03.scores. And take the lead. Beautiful from Rhys Webb. Wales are showing
:01:04. > :01:13.what they can do. Interception by Dan Biggar. And England scorer. It
:01:14. > :01:25.has been an outstanding game of rugby. Wales, 16, England 21.
:01:26. > :01:32.It was billed as the mother of all showdowns. 80 minutes of rugby, a
:01:33. > :01:36.truly epic Test match. The disappointment of defeat. But we
:01:37. > :01:43.have a great panel tonight in our green room. Please welcome Jonathan
:01:44. > :01:55.Davies. Gwyn Jones. Peter Jackson. And Phil Vickery. And keeping us
:01:56. > :02:05.company in the club, we have the ladies from Nelson. And we are full
:02:06. > :02:12.to capacity tonight, because we also have the Wales under 20s and the
:02:13. > :02:47.Wales women. James Hook is behind the bar. Shall we get the panel in?
:02:48. > :02:56.Good evening, gents. Great to have you on board. Phil, this man in the
:02:57. > :03:01.England shirt, the two of you are probably the only happy men in the
:03:02. > :03:06.studio. It is a lot easier than I thought it would be tonight. For the
:03:07. > :03:09.new club, author Test match. It is lovely. Sometimes big games are
:03:10. > :03:14.hyped up and off the outcome and what is delivered as underwhelming
:03:15. > :03:25.but I was in Cardiff on Friday night, and it was already, "Wales!".
:03:26. > :03:30.People say to me, do you wish I still played and I say, no. I
:03:31. > :03:34.watched yesterday, what an amazing occasion. Two teams and a lovely
:03:35. > :03:37.thing was the confrontation, the physicality, the emotion and
:03:38. > :03:41.passion, nothing silly. Two teams that just went for it until the
:03:42. > :03:45.final whistle. Obviously delighted for England to get a victory at the
:03:46. > :03:50.end but I think it was a lovely atmosphere. We all promote and love
:03:51. > :03:56.our game and that, to me, you could bottle back up and put it out there.
:03:57. > :04:00.So often on occasions like this, they are hyped up and they do not
:04:01. > :04:05.always live up to expectation, but it did yesterday and some. It was a
:04:06. > :04:11.great Test match. It was so tough. Everybody gave everything. We knew
:04:12. > :04:13.how good England were, but I think Wales played exceptionally
:04:14. > :04:17.yesterday. Better than they have done for a long time. It was just a
:04:18. > :04:23.pleasure to be there and a pleasure to watch it. Did the right team win?
:04:24. > :04:33.Well, no, obviously! But regardless of how we played, to make things
:04:34. > :04:36.about it. We beat teams in the autumn, but we sat here largely
:04:37. > :04:39.disappointed with the quality of the performance. Although we were
:04:40. > :04:43.disappointed that we lost in the end, I don't think anybody thinks
:04:44. > :04:47.that is a poor performance. It is so much better than anything we have
:04:48. > :04:50.seen. We had pace in the game, we created and threatened and played
:04:51. > :04:55.with the passion that we know we can. The other thing about the game,
:04:56. > :05:05.I think we might remember it as the emergence of Moriarty in the back
:05:06. > :05:09.row. He was just outstanding. And speaking of Moriarty, a clubmate of
:05:10. > :05:17.yours, James Hook, at Gloucester. What a shift from the big man. He
:05:18. > :05:20.was phenomenal. Boys like that, he was not just tackling them, he was
:05:21. > :05:24.knocking them back two or three yards. He has been doing that all
:05:25. > :05:29.season for Gloucester. He was the man of the match for me. He was
:05:30. > :05:33.outstanding. And on the game itself, I was exhausted watching it. Have
:05:34. > :05:38.you got your breath back yet? It was exhausting. We got the bus back this
:05:39. > :05:42.morning but it was a great Test match that lived up to the
:05:43. > :05:51.expectation. Just gutted we did not get the results. Before a football
:05:52. > :05:54.was kicked, we said that mental toughness would see England through.
:05:55. > :05:59.It probably did, but what else is why it in their favour? At one stage
:06:00. > :06:02.I did not think that winning mentality would see them through.
:06:03. > :06:06.Early in the second half, I thought Wales were going to win the game.
:06:07. > :06:11.And then I was thinking that if they did, Ross Moriarty had to be a
:06:12. > :06:16.serious contender for my man of the match. And then I looked up and Ross
:06:17. > :06:19.Moriarty had been taken off. I didn't understand it for the life of
:06:20. > :06:26.me then and they do not understand it now, but I sense that from the
:06:27. > :06:29.moment he left the field, there was almost a discernible turning of the
:06:30. > :06:34.tide as far as England were concerned. They came back strongly.
:06:35. > :06:38.I think the game was won and lost not because England necessarily had
:06:39. > :06:42.better players on the bench but because they made better use of
:06:43. > :06:48.them. Every English substitute, particularly James Haskel, Ben Te'o,
:06:49. > :06:53.and Jamie George, make them better. I thought every substitution made
:06:54. > :06:58.Wales poorer. And everyone talks about the kicker did not go out but
:06:59. > :07:02.was that the reason why? -- the kick that did not go out. The thing that
:07:03. > :07:08.was impressive from England was the work rate of the ball. They did not
:07:09. > :07:15.always get the ball stolen but it was making people work. Forget about
:07:16. > :07:20.the tries, Farrell's pass... A brilliant pass. The whole thing was
:07:21. > :07:28.phenomenal and you could not fault the work rate. You have to remember
:07:29. > :07:31.that their finishers, starters and finishers, they are quality players.
:07:32. > :07:35.They have the strength and depth. Looking at it from the start of the
:07:36. > :07:40.match, you would think, right, that bench is going to make a difference.
:07:41. > :07:44.Ben Te'o and all that. The Moriarty thing frustrated me because that boy
:07:45. > :07:49.has a presence about him. I had never seen him play a bad game. I
:07:50. > :07:54.would only have had to make players in my Lions team right now, all in
:07:55. > :07:58.Farrell and Ben Te'o and Ross Moriarty. He was just phenomenal. We
:07:59. > :08:01.will be talking about all of those things are little later. Shall we
:08:02. > :08:07.see some highlights from yesterday? The match, like all matches this
:08:08. > :08:13.weekend, started with silence for the man who lost his brave battle
:08:14. > :08:22.with motor neurone disease is weak. -- this week. He wore Springbok
:08:23. > :08:26.agreement like a second skin. Afrikaans was his mother tongue but
:08:27. > :08:33.he was new and different. Strong, fast, and then we can then slowed by
:08:34. > :08:42.motor neuron disease. He was brilliance in his pomp and brash. He
:08:43. > :08:45.was inspirational in his decline. Juiced and West Houston, a giant in
:08:46. > :09:00.his time at dawn way before his time.
:09:01. > :09:11.-- Joost van der Westhuizen. He was told he can't make it. England still
:09:12. > :09:20.have it. Jonathan Jones goes long. He makes the tackle. And here comes
:09:21. > :09:33.Mike Browne. The Welsh defence is still holding out. Until now.
:09:34. > :09:56.Cuthbert sets off in pursuit. Dan Biggar is there. Wales arrive. Two
:09:57. > :10:00.meters from the line. It is brilliant by Knowle to save the day.
:10:01. > :10:14.That was good play by England. Dan Biggar had no option. Alun Wyn Jones
:10:15. > :10:21.stretchers. Which way for Rhys Webb. Left or right? Left, on his own.
:10:22. > :10:38.Play on. England have won it illegally. Good show. Well done,
:10:39. > :10:50.that referee. Can Wales turn pressure into points? Williams can.
:10:51. > :10:55.Wales score. And they take the lead. Scott Williams wearers 12 and he is
:10:56. > :11:04.the dummy runner. It opens up for Liam Williams. That was a great
:11:05. > :11:12.dummy run. Rhys Webb. Evans sends it long. It goes to Jonathan Davies.
:11:13. > :11:20.Davies is inside. Courtney Lawes, Davies, two Leigh Halfpenny. Rhys
:11:21. > :11:29.Webb. Dan Biggar and Wales showing what they can do. A change of
:11:30. > :11:36.direction. Mike Browne. He loses the ball again. The referee has to do
:11:37. > :11:46.whistle to his man. But he is not sure. He says he is not sure and
:11:47. > :11:52.England are a foot shot. They drive through the forwards. Ian is to go
:11:53. > :12:00.digging for it. They have men over on the right. Interception by Dan
:12:01. > :12:08.Biggar. Dan Biggar chases down, with Liam Williams inside him. Against
:12:09. > :12:16.Davies. Great skill. What a game by Davies. It was all over for Dan
:12:17. > :12:32.Biggar and he knew it. Brilliant, brilliant. It is OJ -- Itoje
:12:33. > :12:41.delivers. Liam Williams has turned it over. The biggest roar of the day
:12:42. > :12:47.as possession goes from England to Wales. Alun Wyn Jones. Wales, in no
:12:48. > :12:53.rush but at some stage they will have to clear their lines. Jonathan
:12:54. > :12:59.Davies. Straight down the middle of the field, towards George Ford.
:13:00. > :13:11.England comeback. Owen Farrell. Elliott Davie Cooper had chances in
:13:12. > :13:25.doubt. And he scores. -- Elliott Daly could put chances in doubt. A
:13:26. > :13:30.brilliant kick. England, five points ahead. Wales have to score a try.
:13:31. > :13:42.England could win this and to get off the park. Danny Care. It has
:13:43. > :13:47.been an outstanding game of rugby. They remain unbeaten. England have
:13:48. > :14:01.beaten Wales at the Principality Stadium. Wales 16, England 21.
:14:02. > :14:07.So ultimately, joy for England and heartbreak for Wales. Let's find out
:14:08. > :14:18.what the players and coaches had to say. Did the wrong team when? It was
:14:19. > :14:22.an outstanding Test match. The intensity, the application of our
:14:23. > :14:28.players for 75 minutes was outstanding. I thought it was a
:14:29. > :14:32.great game of test rugby today. A really good contest all round the
:14:33. > :14:37.park. A lot of credit has to go to Wales. I thought that the defence
:14:38. > :14:42.was superb today. They hit hard and often. They worked hard off the
:14:43. > :14:46.ball. Today, it was not enough. We can talk about the defence as much
:14:47. > :14:49.as we like but we stopped tackling in the second half. It is a
:14:50. > :14:54.difficult loss. I did not think we deserved that result. If we are
:14:55. > :14:58.going to beat a team like England, they are doing well at the moment,
:14:59. > :15:03.obviously they are on a good run and they have that winning habit. We
:15:04. > :15:08.need to be focused and stay calm. We did not do that today. We have now
:15:09. > :15:15.become a team that is hard to beat. We are gritty team, with character
:15:16. > :15:20.in there, that know how to get beaten. We put them under pressure
:15:21. > :15:25.and at times in the second half we felt that we allowed them that
:15:26. > :15:29.opportunity to get out of pressure situations, and that is all
:15:30. > :15:32.learning. But they are very good rugby team. Wales are playing well
:15:33. > :15:39.and you have to give credit to them. That is the best I've them play. It
:15:40. > :15:44.was only in the second half that we started to make mistakes and get our
:15:45. > :15:47.speed together. In the first half, they had the lawless attack. They
:15:48. > :15:51.kept the possession for a long period of time and it was difficult
:15:52. > :15:54.to get the ball off them. You say that Wales were flawless in attack.
:15:55. > :16:03.Typically differently to how you expected them to play? Not really.
:16:04. > :16:09.They're half-back is a handful. He is a strong little hugger. And the
:16:10. > :16:16.forwards carried well. Eddie Jones called you a strong little hugger.
:16:17. > :16:22.Do you have in response to that? It means the world to me to win their
:16:23. > :16:27.jersey. It was a shame that I came off at that six to five minute mark.
:16:28. > :16:31.Were you surprised that Ross Moriarty was substituted as early
:16:32. > :16:36.because he was causing so many problems? I want to say that I have
:16:37. > :16:39.enough to worry about without worrying about Wales substitutions.
:16:40. > :16:45.He played 70 minutes last week and I thought the bench had a huge impact
:16:46. > :16:50.last week. As I said before the game, it is not number 102 when
:16:51. > :16:53.you're playing rugby. It is a sport of 23 and the players are equally
:16:54. > :16:57.important coming on and making that impact. We will be harsh on
:16:58. > :17:02.ourselves next week because that is a victory that went missing for us
:17:03. > :17:07.today, we believe. But we will rest up and recover and then we will go
:17:08. > :17:11.again. It has been a fantastic performance, except for the last six
:17:12. > :17:14.or seven minutes. It was a tough one, but you take that, you bottle
:17:15. > :17:21.it, and we will use it in two weeks' time. We will speak to our panel in
:17:22. > :17:25.a few moments but first, Shauna has been analysing the final points of
:17:26. > :17:30.that defeat. What have you discovered? So much to be analysed.
:17:31. > :17:37.But did England when it ordered Wales lose at? As Eddie Jones said,
:17:38. > :17:42.they attacked extremely well. Well marshalled by Rhys Webb and Dan
:17:43. > :17:46.Biggar. Take a look at Itoje here. That is the channel they are trying
:17:47. > :17:52.to cut to get at George Ford. It was all about getting to him and getting
:17:53. > :17:57.at the game line. Even with the ball, they cannot get to George
:17:58. > :18:01.Ford. We know that they need to play Moriarty and Tipuric. And look at
:18:02. > :18:05.Scott Williams going up against Ford. That is what Wales wanted to
:18:06. > :18:09.do and get him across the game line. Now they can attack on the front
:18:10. > :18:15.foot. Bigger is in motion and he has taken the ball to the line. The
:18:16. > :18:19.England outside backs have to backtrack to get on the front foot
:18:20. > :18:24.again. And it manifests itself in this scrum drive. Clifford is out of
:18:25. > :18:29.play the cause Rhys Webb gets to be the ten. George Ford is looking for
:18:30. > :18:33.defenders on either side of them. He is. It isolated is a great run for
:18:34. > :18:36.Williams, out of nowhere. Joe Simmonds attracted by the outside
:18:37. > :18:42.movement and Liam Williams does the best. Wales spend a lot of time on
:18:43. > :18:47.their 22 and will be questions asked about some of the decisions to take
:18:48. > :18:52.the set piece. They lost this Scrum V metres out and an opportunity from
:18:53. > :18:57.the line-out went awry. In this particular set of phases, Alan win
:18:58. > :19:03.was not executing. They are found wanting. Did they have a plan to
:19:04. > :19:10.score once they were in the 22? On this passage, they spent two minutes
:19:11. > :19:13.and 20 seconds in the 22. But I will ask, should James Haskell had been
:19:14. > :19:19.given a yellow card here? Was it a turning point? Ultimately, the
:19:20. > :19:24.difference in the tactics in the kicking game was a difference.
:19:25. > :19:27.England, when they are under pressure, they are intent on kicking
:19:28. > :19:31.off the field. Two points behind with nine minutes to go and Wales
:19:32. > :19:36.were hell-bent on keeping the ball on the field. Even under pressure,
:19:37. > :19:39.Dan Biggar kicks the ball in the field, inviting players like Mike
:19:40. > :19:43.Brown to counterattack. With Wales under pressure, they have kickers in
:19:44. > :19:48.place. Leigh Halfpenny gets there and it goes to Jonathan Davies. The
:19:49. > :19:54.kick is on the field. England, chasing a win. Fantastic play from
:19:55. > :20:05.Farrell. Does Jamie Roberts need to dive in and connect with Cuthbert?
:20:06. > :20:11.Daily does the rest. -- Daly does the rest. Did England when it or did
:20:12. > :20:15.Wales lose at? They put us under pressure, but I think we're just not
:20:16. > :20:18.confident enough to win those type of matches at the moment. We are not
:20:19. > :20:23.playing with the composure that we needed at the end. They are good
:20:24. > :20:28.side, and we played well for long periods but we made some crucial
:20:29. > :20:33.mistakes under pressure. We had a conversation on this sofa far two
:20:34. > :20:38.years ago, saying that Wales did not play, Priestland, Dan Biggar, Plan
:20:39. > :20:44.A, Plan B. Outside, looking in, I know that England won but from
:20:45. > :20:49.outside, looking in, the intent yesterday, and the ambition, OK it
:20:50. > :20:53.did not manifest itself in a win but that was a Welsh team where I can
:20:54. > :20:59.see a massive transition. That is the difference. They played
:21:00. > :21:06.differently, and the execution of those two passes that broke Daly on
:21:07. > :21:09.the outside, there was enough time on the 22. To win Test matches, if
:21:10. > :21:13.you have that much possession and that much time, they have to be
:21:14. > :21:16.clinical and they have to score tries. That is the difference. I
:21:17. > :21:23.think that we are trying to change it. The set piece was brilliant, and
:21:24. > :21:25.a fantastic try. We need to try something differently because I
:21:26. > :21:35.think that England have looked more confident with the ball in hand than
:21:36. > :21:39.we did. I think we needed to take a breath and say, right, look at how
:21:40. > :21:43.we can attack. We have to score in those situations to beat the top
:21:44. > :21:47.three sides in the world. That is the difference. We are trying it, we
:21:48. > :21:52.are playing differently, rather than rapid, rapid, rapid, but that is the
:21:53. > :21:59.crucial missing element, the attacking and the creativity. There
:22:00. > :22:02.are couple of things. We have turned down five opportunity points in the
:22:03. > :22:07.championship so far and we have got nothing back for any of. As Rob
:22:08. > :22:10.says, let the players make a decision on the field, well, they
:22:11. > :22:14.are making the wrong decision. Let's take points when they are on offer
:22:15. > :22:19.in a close game like that. The second thing that Sean alluded to,
:22:20. > :22:22.we have had more than 30 phases of play in the last two games between
:22:23. > :22:27.the five metre line and the try line in attack and we have not put three
:22:28. > :22:31.passes together. I think back to Australia in the World Cup with 13
:22:32. > :22:35.men, and against Italy, they were just waiting for us. And England
:22:36. > :22:41.again, when Itoje was on the touchline, five metres out within
:22:42. > :22:45.five phases they had put three long passes on the other side of the
:22:46. > :22:48.pitch and scored a try. We are talking about small things now
:22:49. > :22:52.because we have made a huge step forward, but these are the things
:22:53. > :22:57.that will take us to the next level. If you look back at the 28th minute
:22:58. > :23:01.or the 31st minute, you could say that Wales lost the game. Admittedly
:23:02. > :23:05.it is to be wise after the event but you did not need to be to work out
:23:06. > :23:09.that in a tight game, you kick goals. It is one thing turning it
:23:10. > :23:13.down against Italy, a different matter turning it down against
:23:14. > :23:16.England. If you look at the scrum penalty, Wales got penalised and
:23:17. > :23:21.they lost it. Potentially six points had gone down the drain. With new
:23:22. > :23:25.management, you have to understand... We all have degrees in
:23:26. > :23:35.hindsight. The differences that you had your head down and your cars
:23:36. > :23:39.out. The decision-makers are on the pitch. When you are under the cosh,
:23:40. > :23:43.you have to look down and say, it is our fault. You put it in the stands
:23:44. > :23:49.and then you regroup from first phase. OK, you have to plan to kick,
:23:50. > :23:53.leave it in play, but three of your forwards have done four or five
:23:54. > :23:58.tackles, smashed in rucks, and all of a sudden you have to say, hang
:23:59. > :24:03.on, we need a breather. We need a breather, well yet into the stand
:24:04. > :24:08.and regroup. He walked slowly to the line-out and then you reorganise
:24:09. > :24:12.from first phase. That turnover from Williams, if we had cleared it, we
:24:13. > :24:16.would have been under intense pressure. Everyone congregated to
:24:17. > :24:22.the ball. There was no one out wide. That had to go to the stand. I take
:24:23. > :24:27.it from the question that Sean asked, you think that Wales lost it.
:24:28. > :24:32.Phil, I think we are feeling, as the lads alluded to, proud of the way
:24:33. > :24:37.the team seems to be evolving. But for you guys, are you feeling
:24:38. > :24:44.relieved, or have you used up all of the get out of jail card is? One
:24:45. > :24:49.thing about Eddie Jones, he is brilliant at organising the England
:24:50. > :24:53.team. The first game, they look tired, that is my responsibility,
:24:54. > :24:57.can I prepare them better? They did looked jaded against France.
:24:58. > :25:01.Everybody seems to write off the French team but they were not
:25:02. > :25:06.exactly a bad team. It was a good Test match. The menu yesterday, I
:25:07. > :25:10.think the challenge is for England, on the unbeaten run, less than 18
:25:11. > :25:15.months ago it was doom and gloom. The world is going to end, and then
:25:16. > :25:19.suddenly an unbeaten Grand Slam, unbeaten summer tour and then the
:25:20. > :25:25.autumn series whitewash, going into the Six Nations, with the Lions tour
:25:26. > :25:31.coming up, coming into Cardiff, what is going to go wrong? Everyone wants
:25:32. > :25:36.to beat England at the best of times, let alone when they are on a
:25:37. > :25:40.magnificent run. A lot of it is the mental side of it. There are things
:25:41. > :25:48.which happened at the weekend for me, things that you talk about like
:25:49. > :25:52.decision-making. Owen Farrell, asking the referee how much time was
:25:53. > :25:56.left with 15 minutes left to go. England were calm. Injuries did not
:25:57. > :26:02.matter. Guys came in and stepped up. Owen Farrell was just immense. All
:26:03. > :26:05.day long. But so was Joe Launchbury and Nathan Hughes. I thought he
:26:06. > :26:09.stepped up to the plate. But we have not talked about Dan Cole, and the
:26:10. > :26:15.scrummage. I thought the scrummage went well with Joe Marler. That was
:26:16. > :26:20.fantastic. All of the simple things. And Itoje, he is the most of
:26:21. > :26:28.athlete. I stood next to him last week and he scared me. You mention
:26:29. > :26:32.that, but I'm sure is scared of Ross Moriarty, because he cut him in
:26:33. > :26:37.half. But him and Nathan Hughes, they both have the full brunt of
:26:38. > :26:40.Moriarty's tackle, and we mention of the top on his sword to his salt
:26:41. > :26:46.attrition mystified many. Talk to me about his contribution yesterday. He
:26:47. > :26:52.has evolved into a genuine test animal. He is an old-fashioned sex.
:26:53. > :27:06.A lot of these back rows are hybrid sixes and sevens. -- and old
:27:07. > :27:09.fashioned six. He would've gone mental if that had been an
:27:10. > :27:13.Englishman. What he does for us, he might not be in the game all the
:27:14. > :27:19.time but he has big contributions that change momentum. He inspires
:27:20. > :27:22.the team, getting the crowd in the team and changing the flow of the
:27:23. > :27:26.match. We were all utterly confused as to why he was taken off
:27:27. > :27:31.yesterday. Clearly, it was preplanned. They wanted Falatau on
:27:32. > :27:38.even earlier. He has just made to enormous tackles, with a good run.
:27:39. > :27:42.But hang on... He may not have another period in his career where
:27:43. > :27:47.he is playing against England and smashing them. He has been taking
:27:48. > :27:51.off. And you can see the frustration. Because it was Falatau.
:27:52. > :27:55.I think that is the reason why. We know is quality and what he will
:27:56. > :28:02.bring. At the end of the game, with all of that experience, he is just
:28:03. > :28:06.phenomenal. But should you make that decision according to what you're
:28:07. > :28:11.seeing? It is a telling point. I cannot believe that it is
:28:12. > :28:15.preplanned. As a coach, you react to the game as it is unfolding in front
:28:16. > :28:20.of you. Surely you do not take off a player who is hurting England every
:28:21. > :28:24.which way, literally and figurative leap, and has got wheels on the
:28:25. > :28:28.front foot? England could not believe their luck. Also, we all
:28:29. > :28:31.know that Falatau is an outstanding number eight. But he has not played
:28:32. > :28:38.since Christmas Eve so you replace arguably the most dynamic player
:28:39. > :28:41.with somebody who has not played? But Falatau is world-class.
:28:42. > :28:46.Absolutely world-class. If you are going to bring on anyone, you bring
:28:47. > :28:50.him on. We had to pick man of the match yesterday, when he got taken
:28:51. > :28:53.off we said, he is the man of the match. He was clearly the man of the
:28:54. > :29:06.match. Irrespective of whether it was planned or not, we don't know.
:29:07. > :29:12.It is all about the data. But for me, irrespective of the plans, you
:29:13. > :29:18.do not take your best player off. And not only that, you look at the
:29:19. > :29:22.work that Scott Williams did defensively. He was brilliant in
:29:23. > :29:30.defence, and then they lost the momentum. Rhys Webb also, he was
:29:31. > :29:35.controlling the game. Eddie Jones, when he brought on the finishers,
:29:36. > :29:39.they did not seem to struggle. The energy levels, they did rise and if
:29:40. > :29:42.you had to be critical of the Welsh team, it felt like when the
:29:43. > :29:48.replacements came on it became more disjointed. It robs them of their
:29:49. > :29:52.rhythm. That is it in microcosm. You agree that it was won or lost off
:29:53. > :29:59.the pitch? I wouldn't say it was won or lost. They played with such
:30:00. > :30:03.intensity, I do not think you could be expected to play for that long.
:30:04. > :30:07.When England brought on fresh legs, we had to bring on replacements and
:30:08. > :30:11.our replacements are not as good. But they didn't miss a trick when
:30:12. > :30:16.substitutions were taken. They brought on one after 52 minutes,
:30:17. > :30:20.nearly half an hour left to play. We agree with that. I am not saying
:30:21. > :30:24.that, but you have to make some substitutions as the game goes on.
:30:25. > :30:27.When you make them is the key decision. And that is what we
:30:28. > :30:31.probably got wrong yesterday. The only substitute left on the bench
:30:32. > :30:35.was Sam Davies and nobody is asking why he was not brought on, because
:30:36. > :30:41.Dan Biggar had such a good game. He answered his critics.
:30:42. > :30:49.He had a brilliant game. He was for man of the match, but you know what
:30:50. > :30:54.he brings, 100% all the time, carrying it to George Ford, his
:30:55. > :30:58.defence is incredible, right? His reading of the intercepts saved a
:30:59. > :31:04.couple of tries. If you are picking down you know what you get, he will
:31:05. > :31:09.never ever let you down. He is not the creative elements some day this
:31:10. > :31:16.has got, so that again is selection and what you want to bring to the
:31:17. > :31:20.game. Maybe it wouldn't have been fair to throw him on yesterday
:31:21. > :31:24.because Wales were under the cosh. If we were in the ascendancy and
:31:25. > :31:28.ball carrying with the momentum, that's when you throw him on. He
:31:29. > :31:32.made a difference in Italy, I know they were dreadful but he made a
:31:33. > :31:37.difference because he spots people, and that is a different player. He
:31:38. > :31:41.is a tremendous talent. It perhaps would have been wrong to bring him
:31:42. > :31:45.on yesterday because if it had gone wrong he was the person who didn't
:31:46. > :31:50.quite make touch, and he would have been thrown under the bus. He is a
:31:51. > :31:54.tremendous talent to have and it's exciting for Welsh rugby to see that
:31:55. > :31:58.coming through. I want to stick on the topic of Dan Biggar because we
:31:59. > :32:13.will now to speak to one who has won the Welsh number ten jersey with
:32:14. > :32:17.pride and a fair bit of pressure no doubt. Let's chat about your mate,
:32:18. > :32:20.Dan, he was phenomenal yesterday. He was outstanding. If you look at the
:32:21. > :32:22.pressure he was under, whether Sam Davies would start, he has answered
:32:23. > :32:25.his critics. I thought the interception would be the turning
:32:26. > :32:27.point of the game but we lost the line-out. In attack you know what
:32:28. > :32:29.you get with him. His hands were crisper yesterday, bringing Scott
:32:30. > :32:33.Williams into the game. I thought he was outstanding and you have two
:32:34. > :32:38.quality tends now competing for the shirt. On the sofa we Act like we
:32:39. > :32:42.are surprised with Moriarty's performance but he was your
:32:43. > :32:46.team-mate and we see that week in week out. He has been outstanding
:32:47. > :32:51.all year for Gloucester and he just needed his opportunity. We have a
:32:52. > :32:55.dilemma now, four into three don't go so it is a big call for the next
:32:56. > :33:01.game, interesting to see how he goes. Have you spoken to any of the
:33:02. > :33:08.boys? I have textured a few of them. They are all gutted -- sent a few
:33:09. > :33:13.of. They review the video and see how close they were to beating a
:33:14. > :33:16.quality England team. A lot of confidence to take into Scotland and
:33:17. > :33:19.hopefully we can build on it and go forward. We will chat more later.
:33:20. > :33:30.APPLAUSE. I don't think I have ever seen the
:33:31. > :33:34.press room at the stadium as busy as yesterday, it was a genuine who's
:33:35. > :33:40.crew of former international superstars and we caught up with a
:33:41. > :33:43.fair few to get their verdict. I thought it was a fantastic
:33:44. > :33:48.performance, probably one of the best I have seen from Wales for a
:33:49. > :33:52.number of years, two or three notches higher. To me it was
:33:53. > :33:56.reminiscent of the way we played in the World Cup when we had that never
:33:57. > :34:04.say die attitude. We ask questions of them that haven't been asked in
:34:05. > :34:10.the last 15 games. Let's face it, it was in Wales's hands, they were
:34:11. > :34:15.fantastic 478 minutes. It looks as if Wales were trying to play with
:34:16. > :34:19.more intent and free spirit, to create things get the ball wide or
:34:20. > :34:24.change direction and just make things happen. They gave everything.
:34:25. > :34:29.The conditions out there who are immense. It was so close and a great
:34:30. > :34:34.opportunity to beat them. It must have been disappointing for Moriarty
:34:35. > :34:38.to be taken off at the time he was. Obviously it was a preplanned move,
:34:39. > :34:54.but you could have left him on, they were playing so well at the time.
:34:55. > :34:57.Moriarty has grown into an international player. I thought that
:34:58. > :35:00.was one of the turning points, Nathan Hughes in his pocket most of
:35:01. > :35:02.the game and maybe unlucky to come at that point. England will be
:35:03. > :35:05.battered and bruised this morning but if they go on to do things that
:35:06. > :35:08.the World Cup they now have to win those big games away from home. I
:35:09. > :35:11.thought the scrum wasn't as strong as spares, and the line-out we lost,
:35:12. > :35:15.we lost composure, when Dan Biggar had the interception. They have been
:35:16. > :35:19.a bit more creative this year, the Pratt platform, the scrum, the
:35:20. > :35:24.line-out was good but it is always disappointed when you play against
:35:25. > :35:28.England and lose. To win a game like that with a mistake, Jonathan Davies
:35:29. > :35:34.missing that touch, I just feel for them. That ball needed to go off the
:35:35. > :35:38.field. Get it off the field and rebuild. It came off the boot wrong
:35:39. > :35:43.way and England were clinical. They did really well to have that
:35:44. > :35:46.attacking option but certainly that ball goes into touch, we hold on for
:35:47. > :35:55.the win. Alex Cuthbert couldn't quite get there. We question most
:35:56. > :35:58.defensive mishaps but you have to applaud him and say well done for
:35:59. > :36:03.getting there. There are other things you can take heart from. In
:36:04. > :36:09.that respect it looks as if we are going in the right direction. At
:36:10. > :36:14.long last! I'm going to come to you, Phil, on
:36:15. > :36:18.the set piece. There were positives but we missed a few crucial
:36:19. > :36:22.line-outs and scrums. What was your assessment on the battle up front. I
:36:23. > :36:25.thought it was pretty good, the line-out perhaps suffered at the end
:36:26. > :36:28.more when there was a communication issue and changes but I was more
:36:29. > :36:33.impressed with England particularly at scrummage time because they
:36:34. > :36:39.hadn't been scrummaging particularly well but Dan Cole and Joe Marler did
:36:40. > :36:48.a great job. Look at the second rows, Launchbury, it is heavyweight.
:36:49. > :36:52.In that sense they have been pleased because when you come to a bare
:36:53. > :36:57.pitch like card if you need to do your basics. You talk about the
:36:58. > :37:02.tries and the fancy stuff -- bearpit like Cardiff. Driving line-out play
:37:03. > :37:05.from England was good as well. Always felt in control. I never felt
:37:06. > :37:13.nervous at home watching it so credit to the guys for that. One
:37:14. > :37:18.area Wales has undoubted supremacy was the breakdown, eight turnovers
:37:19. > :37:22.against two. England's back row despite being good individuals were
:37:23. > :37:25.inexperienced at test level. There were no jackals yesterday because
:37:26. > :37:29.the referee allowed them to hold the ball on the floor so it was more
:37:30. > :37:37.ripping the ball and the team did that well. Warburton pinched to
:37:38. > :37:41.tackle area -- a tackle area. I think more it was the confrontation.
:37:42. > :37:49.We were passive when they were good and then they we had that 15 minutes
:37:50. > :37:53.of supremacy. We soaked it up then once we stood our ground and started
:37:54. > :38:00.hitting them back that's when we were good. The back row debate will
:38:01. > :38:03.be interesting. The best player so far, probably Moriarty, the
:38:04. > :38:09.second-best, Warburton, then it becomes a decision between Fala
:38:10. > :38:15.Tawau or Tipuric, Tipuric, man of the match against South Africa,
:38:16. > :38:20.played very well this year. In the physical games I am sure he has
:38:21. > :38:26.physicality to impact the game often enough early on, and perhaps he is a
:38:27. > :38:30.bench player in those games. That question now is, shall we play the
:38:31. > :38:38.two sevens, six and seven, that is gone. Moriarty six, Faletau is seven
:38:39. > :38:43.or eight, then he has to make a call on the two sevens. Simple as that,
:38:44. > :38:48.the balance is better, Moriarty, Faletau and that is job, he makes a
:38:49. > :38:53.call. Let's discuss this in more depth as we look ahead to the next
:38:54. > :38:56.game, team selection for that. The men's team as discussed didn't get
:38:57. > :38:59.over the line against England despite the valiant effort. Let's
:39:00. > :39:05.find out how the under 20s and women's team got on as well.
:39:06. > :39:14.COMMENTATOR: They have had a lot of success with the kicking game.
:39:15. > :39:21.Lovely kick over the top, Jones collect fund scores. That is a great
:39:22. > :39:26.try from Wales. -- collect and scores. Good hands again by Butler
:39:27. > :39:33.clearing away from the tackle, getting the ball away. Mercer with a
:39:34. > :39:40.straight drive once again. Penalty given away by Wales. Then quickly
:39:41. > :39:45.taken by Randall, and they don't need advantage because Harry
:39:46. > :39:51.Randall, the former Wales under 16 captain, as England's first try.
:39:52. > :40:03.England are full of running now, lovely ball to Mercer once again, it
:40:04. > :40:06.gets the past. Bounces off tacklers. England have picked up the pace,
:40:07. > :40:24.plenty of men going left, need to carry on the same way. Mullis gets
:40:25. > :40:29.it away. The try comes to England. Mercer slips it. He is still going,
:40:30. > :40:37.Mercer, all the way to the corner, pop it back inside to Bayliss! On
:40:38. > :40:40.the try line. This could be the killer blow for England. Mercer
:40:41. > :40:56.spins, reaches, and makes it! , COMMENTATOR: England looking to
:40:57. > :41:02.create space in midfield, they could have an overlap, Waterman has Wilson
:41:03. > :41:16.- Hardy outside her, Wilson Hardy is in, and has scored the first try,
:41:17. > :41:20.third minute. Maclean and Hand combining yet again, Waterman has
:41:21. > :41:25.Wilson- hardy outside her going for the corner, and using strength as
:41:26. > :41:31.well, but just repulsed a couple of metres out, the try therefore
:41:32. > :41:41.Danielle Waterman in the corner. Scott picks it up, still there, out
:41:42. > :41:45.to Maclean, she has a Amy Wilson Hardy with a run for her second try.
:41:46. > :41:54.Hunter brought down a couple of metres out. Can England get it wide
:41:55. > :41:58.yet again? Maclean, out to Lydia Thompson, and that will be the
:41:59. > :42:07.Worcester winger's hat-trick. Final score here than at Cardiff Arms
:42:08. > :42:10.Park, Wales 0- 63 England. So a bitter pill to swallow for the
:42:11. > :42:14.Wales winning team but they have fronted up tonight and are in the
:42:15. > :42:18.house with Sean Holley. I have members of the 20s and the
:42:19. > :42:24.women with me here, I commentated on both games, a tough day at the
:42:25. > :42:29.office, and you are facing a professional outfit on fire on the
:42:30. > :42:33.day. Yes, credit to England, they are professional and are also world
:42:34. > :42:37.champions and played that way yesterday. They were outstanding. We
:42:38. > :42:40.are disappointed with how we played and our performance but also credit
:42:41. > :42:47.to the crowd, we had a great crowd and they kept us going till the end.
:42:48. > :42:51.Good occasion, Sian, a lot of experience, in the England side,
:42:52. > :42:54.what will you learn? Loads of experience from England, current
:42:55. > :43:00.world champions with Olympians in there. Lots of experience. We came
:43:01. > :43:05.second place in a lot of little battles which led to that result. We
:43:06. > :43:08.will regroup and bounce back, and a lot of wrong is to put right so we
:43:09. > :43:13.are looking forward to the next game. Scotland next, Rowland
:43:14. > :43:17.Phillips has his hands full, what can we expect? We said after the
:43:18. > :43:22.game we will not let one game define us and we will definitely pull
:43:23. > :43:25.together. We are a really tight family, and going out to Scotland
:43:26. > :43:37.will be tough because they are pretty decent this year, they are a
:43:38. > :43:39.good team, but we will remain confident in our ability. Good luck
:43:40. > :43:42.in Scotland, over as the 20s, Calum Bradbury and Shane Lewis Hughes.
:43:43. > :43:45.Great atmosphere, big crowd and for a large amount of time you put
:43:46. > :43:49.England under pressure. We are at standing at the beginning putting
:43:50. > :43:53.the boys under big tackles, but we let ourselves down and conceded
:43:54. > :43:58.three tries. We will bounce back and are looking forward to the next
:43:59. > :44:02.game. It is a young squad against an experienced England side, what is
:44:03. > :44:06.the feeling like in the camp? We are a young squad but very keen to learn
:44:07. > :44:14.as individuals and team, and playing a team like England, it is a good
:44:15. > :44:18.experience for us boys to take on, playing with such a packed crowd. It
:44:19. > :44:23.is great but as you said it is a long way to go in the championship,
:44:24. > :44:27.so still early days. Good luck to everybody for the next game, back to
:44:28. > :44:33.you, Sarra. APPLAUSE.
:44:34. > :44:43.I think it is worth mentioning that it may be 3-0 to England this
:44:44. > :44:49.weekend, but two weeks ago Wales's deaf teen beat England 23-12 at
:44:50. > :44:55.Sardis Road, so we have one. Well done. Shall we have some Pro12
:44:56. > :45:01.action? Billy continued this weekend, all four Welsh regions
:45:02. > :45:05.taking part and here are the highlights.
:45:06. > :45:10.The Scarlets leapfrog Glasgow into fourth place with an impressive
:45:11. > :45:14.victory. Despite the home side going headfirst the visitors fought back,
:45:15. > :45:18.Tom Williams with the first of two tries. The second soon followed for
:45:19. > :45:27.James Davies who proved the rock in defence.
:45:28. > :45:33.Pro12 leaders Munster made it 14 wins in 15 games with a bonus point
:45:34. > :45:38.victory over the Dragons in Cork. The men from Quins didn't help
:45:39. > :45:43.themselves with this try. Conway gathers, the bounce is kind, and
:45:44. > :45:49.Andrew Conway scores Munster's second try. It was the home team who
:45:50. > :45:55.dominated proceedings. Rhona Nemani cutting through the Dragons defence
:45:56. > :46:01.for Munster's sixth try and 45-17 victory. He in under the posts for
:46:02. > :46:08.try number six and it is emphatic from Munster.
:46:09. > :46:17.The Ospreys, currently second, ran in six tries against bottom of the
:46:18. > :46:22.table Zebre despite being behind at half-time. This was Dan Evans's
:46:23. > :46:30.first try. His second as he breezed their nonexistent Italian defence.
:46:31. > :46:35.-- breezed through. His hat-trick came after Luke Price pass. The
:46:36. > :46:44.final score in Italy, a convincing 40-10 win.
:46:45. > :46:47.Connacht came from behind to beat Cardiff Blues at the Arms Park to
:46:48. > :46:52.complete the league double over the Welsh region. It was the home side
:46:53. > :46:55.that got the early lead, Nick Williams with his second try for the
:46:56. > :47:04.region despite the decision going to the TMO. Matt Healy then took his
:47:05. > :47:11.opportunity for the visitors just before half-time to close the gap,
:47:12. > :47:15.having been left alone on the wing. In the dying minutes of the game,
:47:16. > :47:20.Connacht had their opportunities to seal the win, but it was left to man
:47:21. > :47:24.of the match I Halloran to secure the drop goal, although there was a
:47:25. > :47:30.late penalty for the visitors as well. 19-13 the final score.
:47:31. > :47:37.So here is the Pro12 table after 14 rounds of action. Munster remain top
:47:38. > :47:42.of the pile following the big victory over the Dragons, the
:47:43. > :47:46.Ospreys hot on their heels. Important as well, Scarlets leapfrog
:47:47. > :47:49.Glasgow into fourth place, back into the play-offs, the Blues seven
:47:50. > :47:56.despite the last-minute defeat to Connacht and the Dragons in tenth.
:47:57. > :48:00.Back to Six Nations, and narrow win for France against Scotland in Paris
:48:01. > :48:05.earlier this afternoon, so let's have a look at how the Six Nations
:48:06. > :48:10.table looks after two rounds. Wales have dropped from top down to third
:48:11. > :48:14.after the defeat, France moved to four, Scotland slipped to fifth, all
:48:15. > :48:18.three teams on five points though, Ireland after their impressive
:48:19. > :48:24.display in Rome go from this up to second and reigning champions
:48:25. > :48:28.England top on eight points. One man who will be devastated by that
:48:29. > :48:32.result in Paris this afternoon is former Scotland scrum-half Andy
:48:33. > :48:36.Nichol, watching the game from Paris studio, and sent us his thoughts on
:48:37. > :48:42.the final whistle-stop yellow Scotland can continue their
:48:43. > :48:47.victorious start the RBS Six Nations after an attritional physical battle
:48:48. > :48:53.in Paris. It was a huge French pack that dominated possession and field
:48:54. > :48:56.position. Scotland showed great bravery and courage in defence but
:48:57. > :49:00.couldn't stop the juggernaut that was the French team here. A good try
:49:01. > :49:04.in the first for Scotland with Stuart Hogg again with his dazzling
:49:05. > :49:08.feat many faces, then in the second a good bounce to the ball for Tommy
:49:09. > :49:13.Seymour to set up Tim Swinson, but other than that they couldn't get a
:49:14. > :49:19.foothold in the game just because of the physicality. Many injuries as
:49:20. > :49:29.well, Greg Laidlaw off injured, John Barclay, John Barclay, John Hartley,
:49:30. > :49:31.so in two weeks it will be Murrayfield. Wheels come off the
:49:32. > :49:34.defeat to England at home, Scotland come off the defeat in Paris, but it
:49:35. > :49:37.is always a great game when the Welsh come to Merrifield and I am
:49:38. > :49:39.looking forward to it immensely already. Fighting talk at the end.
:49:40. > :49:43.He was still smiling but ultimately Scotland's 18 year wait for a win in
:49:44. > :49:47.Paris goes on, and as he mentioned they were outmuscled by that
:49:48. > :49:50.enormous French pack. Some things never change. They were smart in the
:49:51. > :49:55.way they beat Ireland and at one stage I thought that would continue
:49:56. > :50:00.today. Controversial decision in this game, disallowing a try, what
:50:01. > :50:03.is downward pressure, what isn't, I thought the try was good but it
:50:04. > :50:08.wasn't given so probably on this occasion the best team won, but
:50:09. > :50:11.Scotland- Ireland I thought was a great game, probably superseded in
:50:12. > :50:15.terms of intensity by what England and Wales did yesterday, and I think
:50:16. > :50:20.Scotland- Wales in two weeks will be another humdinger. What are we
:50:21. > :50:23.making of this French side? You feel what the French need is continuity
:50:24. > :50:28.in performance, and they seem to be getting that now. They have identity
:50:29. > :50:33.back, the frustration of the French of recent years has been what are
:50:34. > :50:38.they? The scrum is not great, they can't keep looking back but the
:50:39. > :50:44.thing at the moment you can see if the embryonic stages of almost a
:50:45. > :50:48.classic French team, big, powerful men running hard, aggressive ball
:50:49. > :50:53.carrying, off-load, pace out wide, it is not particularly well groomed
:50:54. > :50:57.all strategic, it looks chaotic, but you get excited when you watch the
:50:58. > :51:01.French team. That is important because I feel they lost their
:51:02. > :51:07.identity. The other game at the weekend, Italy- Ireland in Rome,
:51:08. > :51:11.63-10, an absolute spanking, Ireland so furious after losing to Scotland
:51:12. > :51:16.they would always take it out on the Italians, wouldn't they? They were.
:51:17. > :51:20.We know Ireland are a good side. Probably put into context how good
:51:21. > :51:27.Italy are as well. When you move them around to play with pace they
:51:28. > :51:29.cannot cope with it. Conor O'Shea has an enormous job and it brings
:51:30. > :51:33.into question whether Italy should play with Georgia to be in the Six
:51:34. > :51:38.Nations, and the longer it continues to be totally one-sided, the fate of
:51:39. > :51:43.Italian Rugby hands in the balance. That is an interesting point, the
:51:44. > :51:48.relegation. I have strong views on this, I personally think us of the
:51:49. > :51:52.game, Six Nations, whoever is in charge, someone somewhere with a
:51:53. > :51:57.suit on, we have a responsibility with Italy to make things better and
:51:58. > :52:04.help them, it is not just about writing cheques. We have gone
:52:05. > :52:07.through two cycles of players now and are Italy's players better than
:52:08. > :52:12.when they started? The answer is they are not so what are we doing is
:52:13. > :52:15.going to help them? Italy were as bad yesterday as they have been at
:52:16. > :52:19.any stage and when this man was in the England team and they were
:52:20. > :52:23.winning by 80 they were not competitive, missed 37 tackles which
:52:24. > :52:29.I think is more than England, Wales and Ireland missed between them. How
:52:30. > :52:33.long do you give Italy? In Georgia, they are saying, how much more do we
:52:34. > :52:37.have to do to get in? Promotion and relegation has to come sooner rather
:52:38. > :52:43.than later but it should be loaded in favour of the Six Nations team.
:52:44. > :52:48.If Wales or Scotland have a bad team -- season they should have the home
:52:49. > :52:52.advantage, so if you don't win that you have no excuse to say they're
:52:53. > :52:57.not good enough to continue. Let's look ahead to Scotland - Wales. I
:52:58. > :53:01.will come back to you in a moment, Quinn, about the front row
:53:02. > :53:06.configurations. You mentioned your concern about the continued lack of
:53:07. > :53:10.creativity, Jonathan. The reconfigure the field or the
:53:11. > :53:12.half-backs partnership? Scott Williams was brilliant yesterday and
:53:13. > :53:16.Jonathan Davies had one of his better games for Wales, he hasn't
:53:17. > :53:21.played well for the region but he had a very good game yesterday. They
:53:22. > :53:28.have improved. The question is, how can you work the 10-12 axis. The
:53:29. > :53:32.only way is maybe picking a ten in 12 positions. You have Owain Fon
:53:33. > :53:37.Williams, maybe Dan Biggar there because he is big enough to play on
:53:38. > :53:44.the 12 position. That is the only thing. We just need the composure
:53:45. > :53:48.and the creativity to get over the line. Would you do that for
:53:49. > :53:55.Scotland? It is difficult, where do you start Sam, it is still very
:53:56. > :53:59.difficult with Scotland- Ireland and France coming up -- Scotland,
:54:00. > :54:05.Ireland and France, big matches. It is a tough call. Unless I am in the
:54:06. > :54:08.training camp I don't know if I would do it. Look at the England
:54:09. > :54:13.scenario before the game yesterday, Jack Leopard coming in, you don't
:54:14. > :54:17.get a bigger game than Wales away, should he or shouldn't he play --
:54:18. > :54:25.Jack Clifford. We didn't mention his name but it was his big game. My
:54:26. > :54:29.point is that some point if Wales are to change players... I think
:54:30. > :54:36.they needed 10-12, whether Scott Williams or Dan Biggar, Owen
:54:37. > :54:41.Williams and Sam Davies. Unfortunately training that is the
:54:42. > :54:47.one element that is missing and the important one to get over the try
:54:48. > :54:49.line. We were a huge step forward yesterday in terms of being
:54:50. > :54:54.generally more of a threat. I wouldn't change too much after that,
:54:55. > :54:59.I take your point we need to score more tries. In the 10-12 stuff, I
:55:00. > :55:12.wouldn't be surprised if England move Fallon into ten. I used to
:55:13. > :55:15.watch Ti'o play in Australia, he is brilliant, but they have had
:55:16. > :55:20.Tuilagi, had they had him, maybe they wouldn't have fallen on Ford
:55:21. > :55:26.because he is a big fan of him. He is familiar with the Australian way
:55:27. > :55:29.of playing. Eddie George likes the footballing commendation. Scott
:55:30. > :55:32.Williams has been the most creative world centre for about four years
:55:33. > :55:36.now and again he was taken off, would presumably be able to keep
:55:37. > :55:41.going, though what scares me is the fee -- about the future is the
:55:42. > :55:44.paucity of alternatives. Rout Rob Howley picked seven or eight
:55:45. > :55:49.uncapped players and I thought none would feature in the Six Nations,
:55:50. > :55:54.and you'd think, is that window dressing? I think... I will not
:55:55. > :56:00.blame Cuthbert, he was taken out by the perfection of Farrell's pass, so
:56:01. > :56:04.I will not criticise Alex but I would have picked Evans yesterday.
:56:05. > :56:08.In the full-back position, I know they picked Halfpenny because of the
:56:09. > :56:14.defensive qualities and the running. OK, so when we defend, put Leigh
:56:15. > :56:20.Halfpenny at full-back, when we attack, swap smoker, we did with
:56:21. > :56:25.Paul Thorburn and Adrian Evans so it is not difficult, is it? What
:56:26. > :56:29.worries you most about this Scotland site? Fin wrestle a couple of weeks
:56:30. > :56:36.ago was talking about the feed Vern Cotter gives them to play. That is
:56:37. > :56:40.presumably a daunting prospect. Scotland have always competed up
:56:41. > :56:44.front, always. They kicked their goals. The one thing lacking for
:56:45. > :56:50.over a decade is the cutting edge behind. Now they have that. That is
:56:51. > :56:55.a problem. They will score tries, with Finn wrestle and Stuart Hogg,
:56:56. > :57:00.they will create things. That means we will have to score as well to
:57:01. > :57:04.beat them. That is the problem, they have confidence from the Glasgow
:57:05. > :57:08.side, creativity, freedom given by Townsend and Cotter, so they will
:57:09. > :57:13.look at Wales and say, we will win. Gents, we have to leave it there,
:57:14. > :57:22.thank you for your time. Jonathan Davies everyone, Gwyn Jones, Peter
:57:23. > :57:26.dextran and Phil Nicholls. APPLAUSE. Thanks to be under 20s, the women
:57:27. > :57:31.and Sean Holley, that's all we have time for this evening I am afraid
:57:32. > :57:35.that if you want more there is a Facebook Live after the programme
:57:36. > :57:40.with James Hook and Sean Holley. An epic weekend, a titanic tussle in
:57:41. > :57:43.Cardiff, a humdinger of a game, Wales had to settle per second best
:57:44. > :57:47.this time. We will see you next week.
:57:48. > :58:44.CHEERING. APPLAUSE. It's amazing how many people
:58:45. > :59:04.still remember him as "David Parry-Jones,
:59:05. > :59:07.the voice of rugby in Wales." If I wasn't here,
:59:08. > :59:11.of course he'd be in a care home. And, really,
:59:12. > :59:13.I can't see him in a care home. Beti George asks if more can be done
:59:14. > :59:20.for couples like them. There really needs to be
:59:21. > :59:25.a revolution in dementia care.