Rugby Special: Third Round

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:00:54. > :01:05.Stuart Hogg, it is two! Can Wales turn pressure into points? Jonathan

:01:06. > :01:21.Davies! Straight down the field. The first two weekends of the six

:01:22. > :01:26.Nations this year were absolutely enthralling. The third weekend was

:01:27. > :01:32.as well but it was also extraordinary.

:01:33. > :01:43.How good are England? How resolute are Italy? Just how proud and

:01:44. > :01:48.ruthless? Ireland and France. Just how physical do you want a rugby

:01:49. > :01:56.international to be? Scotland and Wales. Just how long can one team

:01:57. > :02:08.keep beating the other? So much to talk about. Jeremy Guscott, Jonathan

:02:09. > :02:12.Davies and Paul O'Connell. Straight to Twickenham. If you don't know

:02:13. > :02:13.what happened in this match, you've never seen an international rugby

:02:14. > :02:30.fixture like this. Danny Care thinks he might have

:02:31. > :02:39.phoned the way through. Though he did not get through, that

:02:40. > :02:43.is the area to keep testing. Owen Farrell.

:02:44. > :02:57.It has gone forward. The pass just evading Jonny May. The problem was

:02:58. > :03:02.he was trying to keep a line but he was going towards him and in the end

:03:03. > :03:10.there was a collision. He is tackled by Ben

:03:11. > :03:19.I'm saying when there is no ruck, just play on.

:03:20. > :03:25.The referee has been quite clear. The fact that England cannot

:03:26. > :03:30.understand it is their fault. They should know the law. Professional

:03:31. > :03:42.players. Though it is unusual it is for nursing them at the moment. --

:03:43. > :03:44.confusing them. Very clever by Italy. Italy have to be careful

:03:45. > :03:56.inside the 22. They set up a slow charge and at

:03:57. > :04:02.some stage they have to get this ball into touch.

:04:03. > :04:12.Penalty against Italy. It didn't work. But all of the problem for

:04:13. > :04:18.defending team. How many times do you try and make the exit by driving

:04:19. > :04:27.the ball forward? At what point do you take it too many? England going

:04:28. > :04:33.for the drive. This will go very far.

:04:34. > :04:44.Owen Farrell joins in and tries to clear him out of the way. Try

:04:45. > :05:05.awarded! Italy not getting enough men in

:05:06. > :05:10.quickly but England seeing the ball off. Cannot see the grounding but

:05:11. > :05:15.that was a good position. He obviously could. Good work by the

:05:16. > :05:18.England forwards. Eddie Jones will be hoping that will settling down

:05:19. > :05:33.that they can play with fluency because they've managed to do

:05:34. > :05:35.nothing like that so far. It seems to be opening up, make Brown.

:05:36. > :05:47.Important tackle. Into the England half. It has more

:05:48. > :06:08.than opened up for them. Italy play on. It has gone loose. It

:06:09. > :06:36.is still loose. Back to the 22. Penalty advantage to

:06:37. > :06:41.Italy. The break-out by Italy. A return to the form of the

:06:42. > :06:42.first-quarter returns a penalty. The ball comes slightly quicker

:06:43. > :07:04.fertility. Just that Delay. Allen, to put Italy in the lead on

:07:05. > :07:12.the stroke of half-time. Something good could come of it and it has!

:07:13. > :07:23.Italy take the lead. An extraordinary first half and Italian

:07:24. > :07:26.performance. Clueless, inappropriate, unorganised, whatever

:07:27. > :07:36.you want to say. Nobody there for England. One Italian chaser. Conor

:07:37. > :07:40.O'Shea is delighted because Italy are well worth this lead and I'm not

:07:41. > :07:44.here to be a cheerleader for England. This half has been

:07:45. > :08:08.execrable, absolutely awful. It is brave work by the Italian

:08:09. > :08:24.forwards. It hasn't worked. It was always a risk. This is a prime

:08:25. > :08:30.opportunity for England to assert some control over the game.

:08:31. > :08:45.Solid platform to begin with. Penalty to England.

:08:46. > :09:03.Danny Care! Quick-witted from the England scrum-half. He was always

:09:04. > :09:12.alive to Italy, who were the most switched onside in the first half.

:09:13. > :09:22.Good work by Danny Care but not by the defence. Joe Launchbury. Quickly

:09:23. > :09:30.over the top. Italy play the game but they are not going in. England

:09:31. > :09:44.hesitated and they are on the move now.

:09:45. > :10:02.Scores again. He's had some impact on left-wing. That is the correct

:10:03. > :10:03.way to deal with the Italian tactic. There are spaces behind the tackle

:10:04. > :10:49.area. Tackle only. That is the phrase of

:10:50. > :11:08.the day. Italy are looking for a way through as England stay out of the

:11:09. > :11:16.contact area. It is a great individual effort, irrespective of

:11:17. > :11:27.the fact that there were not enough tacklers to bring him down.

:11:28. > :11:35.He has the presence of mind to know that his momentum will take him over

:11:36. > :11:46.the line. That's a great run. It's a fantastic solo effort. He could not

:11:47. > :11:55.get hang on the forwards. Courtney Lawes is in front of him. The ball

:11:56. > :12:04.needs to go back one. Nathan Hughes has it. Ben Youngs on

:12:05. > :12:35.his shoulder. There is about four men to none.

:12:36. > :12:49.England have such an overlap. They are still short. Penalty advantage.

:12:50. > :12:55.Ben Youngs has spotted it. Must be. It was not the best but he has the

:12:56. > :13:03.speed. That is a bonus point try England will probably win with. They

:13:04. > :13:07.tried very hard not to score that but in the end the communication was

:13:08. > :13:12.made and whatever you make of this performance. The fact is that

:13:13. > :13:21.they've got the bonus point and will probably go on to win. The passing

:13:22. > :13:33.was not the best. It was such an overlap.

:13:34. > :13:53.Groups, long clearance. The replacement prop.

:13:54. > :14:08.England are going to finish in style. Not many people would have

:14:09. > :14:12.spotted this but the fact that Mike Brown laid the ball early at length

:14:13. > :14:19.stopped the Italians from coming round the wrong side. It was too

:14:20. > :14:20.quick to use it. It created the defence of space which was exploited

:14:21. > :14:29.by England. Henry Slade is on. Back in the

:14:30. > :15:01.England setup. Six tries for England. Good work and

:15:02. > :15:06.Jack Mills looked lively since he's come on. Final score here, England

:15:07. > :15:18.36, Italy 15. A few fans scratching their heads in

:15:19. > :15:23.that first half and some pundits on the game, as well. What was your

:15:24. > :15:27.take? Let's face the facts. You've got to have an offside line to play

:15:28. > :15:30.the game. Italy was smart and congratulations to their coaching

:15:31. > :15:37.staff and the players. They executed that playing brilliantly, but it

:15:38. > :15:40.wasn't a Webb rugby. If I was the BBC, I'd be asking the RFU for their

:15:41. > :15:45.money back, because we haven't had a rugby game. Do you think your

:15:46. > :15:48.players were slow to adapt? I think they reacted well. It's difficult.

:15:49. > :15:52.You are taught from the age of three that you pick up the ball and pass

:15:53. > :15:57.it half-backs and when you can't do that, then it puts you win another

:15:58. > :16:00.sphere. Did you have a wry smile on your face in the first half, when

:16:01. > :16:06.you sort England struggle with your no ruck-macro no struggle tactic? It

:16:07. > :16:13.was fun. We talked about it yesterday, when we met Romain. In

:16:14. > :16:18.the November internationals, they intercepted the ball against

:16:19. > :16:21.Toulouse to win Wasps the game in a Heineken Cup and everyone says how

:16:22. > :16:24.brilliant it is. When we do it, everyone says, you shouldn't have

:16:25. > :16:30.done it and it's hypocritical. But that's life. It's we beat South

:16:31. > :16:34.Africa and is a terrible South African side, we came here and did

:16:35. > :16:37.things and had a crack and we didn't come here to spoil the game, we

:16:38. > :16:40.played within the rules and I'd like people to look at the first game of

:16:41. > :16:45.the championship again and see how hard done by we were actually by the

:16:46. > :16:49.rules not being looked at properly. A penny for your thoughts on the

:16:50. > :16:53.final whistle. What were you thinking? The game could go on for

:16:54. > :16:59.another 40 minutes, because we haven't played any rugby. Because

:17:00. > :17:04.you look at the GPS starts. I is saying your players will go on

:17:05. > :17:13.trainer Gay now? We practice to have contact because contact is a contact

:17:14. > :17:18.game. -- rugby is a contact game. Even their rock was offside. It's a

:17:19. > :17:22.difficult game for the referee, I'm not critical of him. It was hard to

:17:23. > :17:27.play positive rugby. You have one team trying to play, one trying to

:17:28. > :17:31.stop you from playing, in soccer, park the bus in front of the goal, I

:17:32. > :17:36.don't know what they had in front of the goal but it was bigger than a

:17:37. > :17:41.bus. You want to does a Ben Te'o at 13, what's your verdict? He never

:17:42. > :17:47.got the ball. All we were hoping for was little guy Edoardo Gori would

:17:48. > :17:52.forget he was on the Italian side and maybe our backs could have got

:17:53. > :17:56.it. Where to start. So many talking points. By the very nature of the

:17:57. > :17:59.length of this programme we couldn't show you in the necessary detail all

:18:00. > :18:03.the incidents in the first half-hour, where the Italians stood

:18:04. > :18:07.off, didn't engage in contact, and flummoxed England completely.

:18:08. > :18:13.England fought the law, but the law one. This is the law. If you look at

:18:14. > :18:13.what is a ruck and what isn't a ruck and weight you

:18:14. > :18:17.what is a ruck and what isn't a ruck and weight you should go and where

:18:18. > :18:22.you shouldn't, as you can see, a ruck is a phase of play where

:18:23. > :18:25.players close around the ball on the ground. We've put that there because

:18:26. > :18:29.quite clearly a lot of England players were completely bemused by

:18:30. > :18:37.that. Where do we start? Well done to Conor and his coaching team and

:18:38. > :18:41.his coaching team for the tactic of how to confuse and get in the

:18:42. > :18:45.English heads. They executed it brilliantly in the first half. I was

:18:46. > :18:48.surprised, because these are professional guys that train. They

:18:49. > :18:52.haven't got ready for this. They weren't expecting it. It was

:18:53. > :18:56.brilliant. But in my eyes, you think on your feet and react to what you

:18:57. > :19:01.see and what's around you and for me, immediately, it should have been

:19:02. > :19:05.a pick and drive, pick and go. It took 33 minutes for the first

:19:06. > :19:08.English player to work it out. You can understand the frustration

:19:09. > :19:13.because they couldn't work it out. Everyone thought they would put 60,

:19:14. > :19:19.70, 80 points on it, it was great coaching right Conor and his team

:19:20. > :19:22.but England have to come to that and it's the pick and drive, or someone

:19:23. > :19:27.gets there and gets the ball away before they come round. I was amazed

:19:28. > :19:32.they said they hadn't seen before. It's simple rugby, they've been

:19:33. > :19:36.doing it all season. The Chiefs, two seasons ago, did it a lot. It was

:19:37. > :19:43.the talk of Super Rugby. There's no one in ruck. Dylan Hartley had a

:19:44. > :19:47.chance to put in Gori, so Gori can't go into that circle. There's an

:19:48. > :19:51.opportunity to and go. That's one of the only options you have.

:19:52. > :19:55.Launchbury, if he'd pulled Tommaso Allan into the ruck, he could have

:19:56. > :19:58.made a ruck out of it but he's not aware of the rule, he lets him go

:19:59. > :20:03.and we are back into the same situation again now. It's worth

:20:04. > :20:08.saying that social media polarises opinion, in the way it does, but

:20:09. > :20:11.generally, we here are saying a round of applause to Conor O'Shea

:20:12. > :20:15.for coming up with the tactic, given the fact they conceded nearly 100

:20:16. > :20:18.points in the last two games and going into the match they had to

:20:19. > :20:24.come up with something, and boy, did he come up with something.

:20:25. > :20:28.Absolutely, all the talk has been about relegation and Georgia and the

:20:29. > :20:31.Six Nations, so the element of surprise with this tactic, I was

:20:32. > :20:36.surprised that England were so baffled because it was done so well

:20:37. > :20:42.by the Chiefs in the Super 15 and teams figured it out in the

:20:43. > :20:47.superstate -- in the Super 15s. The Chiefs had to get rid of it as a

:20:48. > :20:52.tactic. I'm surprised how much they struggled. Here's the quote from

:20:53. > :20:59.Romain Poite, in response to a question from James Haskell. Lets

:21:00. > :21:05.get some clarity, on the ruck, what we need to do? I can't say, I'm the

:21:06. > :21:12.referee, not the judge. I want to know what the exact rulers. If there

:21:13. > :21:21.is no ruck, an area the tackle on the ground, making an offside line

:21:22. > :21:30.and it's sad. One metre. If someone gets in, it's a ruck? During a

:21:31. > :21:35.tackle, it's a tackler. After. He said thank you and he didn't know

:21:36. > :21:39.any better. It's around on eggheads tomorrow night, it will be

:21:40. > :21:43.interesting. The complex that is of the game are one of its great joys,

:21:44. > :21:49.but also one of its great weaknesses, but today was

:21:50. > :21:52.fascinating. When you go into a game, you have tactics, you go

:21:53. > :21:56.together, whatever one does, the other one has to counter it. That's

:21:57. > :22:01.what sport is all about. England were angry today, they were

:22:02. > :22:07.frustrated, they didn't react to it quickly enough. Pick and drive, or

:22:08. > :22:11.get the first man there and get the ball away. Well done to Italy. It's

:22:12. > :22:16.slightly disrespectful for them to say it's against a -- to say up

:22:17. > :22:20.against the ethics of the game. They came there, everyone was on top of

:22:21. > :22:25.them, everyone was on their case and you have to say, well done, Italy.

:22:26. > :22:28.Well done for scoring two good tries, one outstanding score and

:22:29. > :22:34.they came looking for pride and they restored that to measure. But how

:22:35. > :22:38.much of this, for example, was an example of complacency, of England

:22:39. > :22:43.not being quite on it today? I don't think they were not on it, they were

:22:44. > :22:46.stunned by the tactics. Mentally, they couldn't gather themselves.

:22:47. > :22:51.This was another slow reaction. Italy have chased well, got there,

:22:52. > :22:56.England are waiting for somebody to produce something. This tries

:22:57. > :22:59.beautifully worked. We've highlighted Ford before in this

:23:00. > :23:04.championship, how he's been targeted, and that's a tackle you

:23:05. > :23:07.have to make. He's got two but is alongside him but company Ore walks

:23:08. > :23:13.straight through him and over him and scores a wonderful try --

:23:14. > :23:20.Campagnaro. Eddie Jones was mentoring on Italy's tactics, they

:23:21. > :23:24.still scored two brilliant tries. Let's move on, England, we'll see

:23:25. > :23:30.Elliot Daly's try here, but in the broader context, what positive do

:23:31. > :23:33.England take on this? They've got the bonus point, which they

:23:34. > :23:38.desperately wanted, in case it comes down to the bonus points at the end

:23:39. > :23:41.of the game. I guess the reality years and Brian Moore touched on it

:23:42. > :23:46.in commentary that England did work it out eventually, they did score

:23:47. > :23:50.six tries and when you say play like this, when they've worked out how to

:23:51. > :23:55.get round this no gain line, that they can get quick ball, the hands

:23:56. > :23:58.here off-load, slipped past in from behind from Ford and Care linking

:23:59. > :24:04.and its beautiful Handscomb a great opportunity and score. It's a

:24:05. > :24:08.wonderful take, a wonderfully taken try. It's a great try, England were

:24:09. > :24:11.going to win comfortably once they worked it out. I don't think it was

:24:12. > :24:18.in doubt. They are second-best team in the world and once they'd had

:24:19. > :24:22.their frustrations worked out, Law-macro had a big game, Elliot

:24:23. > :24:28.Daly played well, but it was a stop and start game -- Lawes and big

:24:29. > :24:33.game. They looks very good again. You operate in exalted areas of the

:24:34. > :24:35.game these days. Do you think the world rugby laws committee are going

:24:36. > :24:40.to look at what happened today, either in the short-term or

:24:41. > :24:44.long-term, and they that's not in Eddie Jones' language, rugby, and we

:24:45. > :24:48.are going to have to change the laws as a consequence. We played South

:24:49. > :24:53.Africa two years ago and we beat them, they are big mauling side but

:24:54. > :25:02.we stood off their maul and South Africa had no solution and led to as

:25:03. > :25:05.beating them quite comfortably. They couldn't go to the really strong

:25:06. > :25:07.part of a game. I think Italy have tried something similar. They've

:25:08. > :25:12.used the laws to their advantage. I wouldn't agree with it. There needs

:25:13. > :25:16.to be an offside line. When guys are waving their hands in the middle of

:25:17. > :25:22.the park. It's silly but you have to congratulate Italy. I know you

:25:23. > :25:26.disagree. I'm challenging, insomuch as South Africa are slow, cumbersome

:25:27. > :25:30.pack and England are traditionally a slow, cumbersome pack. New Zealand

:25:31. > :25:33.would stuff Italy out of sight if they played those tactics and Italy

:25:34. > :25:38.wouldn't do it against New Zealand, because they are too smart. They

:25:39. > :25:43.might change it because it wasn't a great spectacle, but... England

:25:44. > :25:49.didn't make it a great practical, they didn't react. When we played

:25:50. > :25:53.sevens, everyone kept the ball alive and the defence rushed up and you

:25:54. > :25:57.have people everywhere. What New Zealand do, they pick players, take

:25:58. > :26:01.it into contact and create an offside line, so they adapted to the

:26:02. > :26:05.seventh game because they are clever and maybe that what is has to happen

:26:06. > :26:09.if it happens again. We will bring all these tactics, if you adapt

:26:10. > :26:13.straightaway, if they'd had a solution, Italy would had to have

:26:14. > :26:17.abandoned it but the fact it worked so well, it gave Italy massive

:26:18. > :26:21.belief in what they were doing and it dragged on. But those teams, when

:26:22. > :26:25.teams throw something like that at you early in the game if you deal

:26:26. > :26:30.with competently early on, they have to abandon that tactic. England

:26:31. > :26:36.didn't do that. It was infectious, England did it. It was intriguing.

:26:37. > :26:40.Entertainment in a different way, not what we were expecting. Two

:26:41. > :26:48.yesterday and Dublin, a game not for the faint-hearted.

:26:49. > :26:56.COMMENTATOR: Sent back by Yoann Maestri and Lopez

:26:57. > :27:18.to Lamerat. Baptiste Serin again. On it goes to

:27:19. > :27:23.Nakaitaci. Pressure on the man of the match against Scotland a couple

:27:24. > :27:28.of weeks ago, socks around his ankles. Back to Baptiste Serin.

:27:29. > :27:38.That's claimed by Heaslip, deep into the 22. Advantage to France, penalty

:27:39. > :27:42.coming, Nakaitaci. France then with a free attack, if they can get this

:27:43. > :27:51.ball. There's Yoann Maestri, a little chip from spreading. Back for

:27:52. > :27:56.the penalty. -- back from Scott Spedding. It's a stepped from

:27:57. > :28:00.Baptiste Serin brought him to a standstill, didn't have the

:28:01. > :28:05.acceleration to get away, but danger signs for Ireland. Unlucky, missing

:28:06. > :28:13.the tackle. They took full advantage after that. A chance for fans to

:28:14. > :28:18.take the first points of the day. The French captain, Camille Lopez,

:28:19. > :28:23.he's never scored a try for France but 100 points in the blue jersey

:28:24. > :28:30.and this time, three more. France take the early lead. Almost 12

:28:31. > :28:35.minutes gone here in Dublin. It's a sort of greasy surface for players

:28:36. > :28:39.to keep a grip with their studs. Rock-solid from both sides. Ireland

:28:40. > :28:43.try to put a squeeze on and it goes down. France will have to use it.

:28:44. > :28:52.The forwards carrying on for France now. Taken on by become all. Ireland

:28:53. > :28:57.try to hold them up. -- taken by become old. Ireland offside, penalty

:28:58. > :29:06.coming to France. Baptiste Serin points the way. The openside flanker

:29:07. > :29:10.is waiting, he carries it in. The Irish defence firing up. Still

:29:11. > :29:16.advantage to France. Back to Lopez for the crossfield kick. Taken by

:29:17. > :29:22.Yoann Huget. Back it goes to Lamerat. Lamerat is in for the try

:29:23. > :29:31.for France. They had the penalty coming, but they have the try. Are

:29:32. > :29:39.they going to look at something? REFEREE: Have a look. Yes or no, for

:29:40. > :29:44.the TMO. The Australian TMO, Nigel is going to have a look on the big

:29:45. > :29:53.screen as well. A little touch. A little touch, might deny France,

:29:54. > :29:57.might deny Lamerat. TMO:

:29:58. > :30:04.If you'd like to have a chat. It looks like he's nudged forward. It

:30:05. > :30:12.was the second movement. No try. Back for the penalty. Remi Lamerat

:30:13. > :30:16.does not like TMO As. He denied putting a fingertip on the ball a

:30:17. > :30:19.couple of weeks ago, that was fractionally more clear, a clear

:30:20. > :30:31.knock-on from Gael Fickou. Camille Lopez to add another three points.

:30:32. > :30:56.Ireland's try to get this going again. This is effective by Ireland.

:30:57. > :31:08.Driven on by the crowed. They are making ground.

:31:09. > :31:18.Into the space and a little chip to chase. Got there just in head --

:31:19. > :31:29.ahead of Keith Earls. We've seen that moves are many claims from

:31:30. > :31:35.Ireland. So nearly worked. Hopefully Ireland can build something from

:31:36. > :31:42.this. Still waiting for some magic from him in this Six Nations.

:31:43. > :31:52.Penalty to Ireland. Another scrum called by Ireland. Too many

:31:53. > :32:05.penalties. It needs to stop now. Nigel Owens looking for a solid

:32:06. > :32:19.scrum. The Irish fans looking for something towards the line.

:32:20. > :32:29.Conor Murray goes for it himself, try given. Conor Murray. Nigel Owens

:32:30. > :32:41.had a look at it and immediately gave the drive.

:32:42. > :32:53.That the speciality. He's scored so many of them over the years. So, a

:32:54. > :33:02.chance for Johnny Sexton to put Ireland in front. Through it goes

:33:03. > :33:16.from Johnny Sexton. Ireland in front and their pressure converting.

:33:17. > :33:29.Just a fraction too long. Good strength and spinning away. Ireland

:33:30. > :33:43.are on the front foot. Johnny Sexton spinning away.

:33:44. > :33:55.The ball turned over. A free attack and a chance for a drop goal.

:33:56. > :34:03.Ireland have the three points. Ireland move further clear. He

:34:04. > :34:07.doesn't take those and you can see why. Sweet strike from some

:34:08. > :34:29.distance. He's happy about that. A penalty to Ireland and another

:34:30. > :34:46.free attack. Trying to secure the ball. Good work. The whole thing

:34:47. > :34:59.ended up on the floor. That does not put off Johnny Sexton.

:35:00. > :35:18.They have a ten point lead. Ireland have the penalty and this

:35:19. > :35:35.could be a chance for Paddy Jackson to move beyond.

:35:36. > :35:51.Ireland win that ten point victory. It is a huge win for us. Sometimes

:35:52. > :35:58.it is not pretty. You just got to really toughen up and I thought they

:35:59. > :36:01.did really well. They mixed the game up a little bit. There was a little

:36:02. > :36:05.bit of putting the ball in behind them. At the same time, a lot of

:36:06. > :36:10.rolling your sleeves up and just making sure that you keep the

:36:11. > :36:17.pressure on. Tonight was about rolling up your sleeves and making

:36:18. > :36:26.sure you exert physical pressure. They are a dangerous outfit and a

:36:27. > :36:39.big physical outfit. When you can get that upfront you put yourself in

:36:40. > :36:46.a pretty good place. Jonathan Hunt says he thinks they are going to win

:36:47. > :36:50.the Championship but more on that in a moment. What do you think of this

:36:51. > :36:55.French team? A better than I thought they were going to be. This season

:36:56. > :37:00.they've come out and they have solidity in the set piece. When they

:37:01. > :37:14.get through a few phases they get lost. They are great individual

:37:15. > :37:20.players. Collectively they need to work on it because the discipline,

:37:21. > :37:26.they could do magic things but they are doing stupid things and they are

:37:27. > :37:32.a big strong side. They've been difficult to beat but they come here

:37:33. > :37:37.a lot better. If they focus on what they are doing and worked as a team

:37:38. > :37:49.they could become a very good side. At the moment it is still the old

:37:50. > :38:02.problems. This is unlucky. They've got players who can damage you. They

:38:03. > :38:05.started really well. They cannot maintain concentration and

:38:06. > :38:12.discipline for a full game. They start giving you penalties and

:38:13. > :38:17.forcing off-loads and they give the opportunities to the opposition.

:38:18. > :38:26.Italy had two weeks after the last round of matches to perfect the

:38:27. > :38:33.tactic. Ireland came up with a variation on a theme but they

:38:34. > :38:37.repeated this often. They used their wealth. We saw this loads of times

:38:38. > :38:52.in the game and we saw this tip-off at the back. Here it is. It creates

:38:53. > :38:57.space. Sit down and it gives you an opportunity to go right. This is

:38:58. > :39:07.something that is... This is a Joe Schmidt play. Ireland asked a lot of

:39:08. > :39:17.questions of France which I don't think France answered. Everybody

:39:18. > :39:22.spoke about the French pack. They spread the ball wide with good

:39:23. > :39:31.skills but they moved the French pack around. It was a brave call and

:39:32. > :39:44.very well done. There was a lot of up the jumper, old-fashioned stuff.

:39:45. > :39:48.They were really effective. This is good from Ireland but the kind of

:39:49. > :39:56.thing you still get from France. People say they've changed but I

:39:57. > :40:02.don't know. Lift the leg, makes sure he's caught them, now it's a penalty

:40:03. > :40:08.to Ireland. Conor Murray knows it is an advantage and he can have a

:40:09. > :40:14.crack. It is really clumsy play. Not a particularly good ball. But as you

:40:15. > :40:16.said earlier, Ireland have used their two weeks off really well.

:40:17. > :40:28.They had some really good attacking plays. We see a really good start

:40:29. > :40:41.from Ireland. Eventually they take the ball out. France are going to

:40:42. > :41:01.bring it over scored a very simple try. Really

:41:02. > :41:04.good clean out from Garry Ringrose. Create a tiny bit of space per Conor

:41:05. > :41:15.Murray and he's really good from this range. What France are lacking

:41:16. > :41:18.is a leader in the pack to cut the rubbish out and keep the discipline.

:41:19. > :41:25.They've always had a problem at stand-off. Scrum-half controls

:41:26. > :41:33.everything and he needs composure. Yesterday, every Irish player does

:41:34. > :41:37.his job but Conor Murray and Johnny Sexton leads them round the field.

:41:38. > :41:44.Every match at the moment, everybody is watching and there is a

:41:45. > :41:50.supposition that he will be the half-backs. What do we make of the

:41:51. > :41:57.return? The guy is a machine. I think he understands the way that

:41:58. > :42:04.Ireland play. He gets on with Joe Schmidt extremely well. The

:42:05. > :42:10.execution is nine out of ten at the time and you want consistency. That

:42:11. > :42:16.is why they are the best players. He demands the best from his players

:42:17. > :42:18.around him and that means that he needs to be up there with his

:42:19. > :42:37.performances. He manages that. Instead of putting himself under

:42:38. > :42:47.pressure he comes back. The last couple of seasons he has become

:42:48. > :42:57.world-class. The half-backs, it was lashing rain and really coming down.

:42:58. > :43:05.They were kicking it really well. You see it from here. In the

:43:06. > :43:15.conditions, the Irish try line is an awful long way away. Do Johnny

:43:16. > :43:22.Murray and -- Johnny Sexton and Conor Murray start for you? At the

:43:23. > :43:26.moment they do. I think it's who wins it. The big one is the last

:43:27. > :43:34.match. That will probably decide the half-backs combination. Anything

:43:35. > :43:41.else on this? I think Johnny Sexton is ten. Conor Murray a 12. -- nine.

:43:42. > :43:51.I think Rhys Webb could go in. 20 more sport to show you. Leicester

:43:52. > :44:01.City against Liverpool, what an interesting game tomorrow, that is

:44:02. > :44:05.on radio five live. As far as the Six Nations is concerned you can

:44:06. > :44:34.watch it tomorrow. But from the earnest debate about

:44:35. > :44:39.rugby everything is put into context by the death of Elli Norkett in a

:44:40. > :44:45.car crash yesterday. She was just 20 years old.

:44:46. > :44:56.You from yesterday. It was Scotland against Wales at Murrayfield, runs

:44:57. > :45:08.like ten consecutive wins have to come to an end sometime.

:45:09. > :45:18.COMMENTATOR: Rhys Webb comes into view. Picks his

:45:19. > :45:26.time. A new variation from Wales, to try and push Scotland back a little

:45:27. > :45:34.bit. Webb's kick. Under pressure from George North, who holds him up.

:45:35. > :45:41.Two pretty big wingers against each other, isn't it? I feel safer,

:45:42. > :45:45.sitting here. It's good work by George North, because Wales will

:45:46. > :45:51.have the put-in. It's raw strength from George North. Tim Visser is a

:45:52. > :45:56.big man. The kick was a little bit too long. The initial contact is OK,

:45:57. > :46:01.then George North gets his feet and another and lifts up Tim Visser.

:46:02. > :46:06.Holds up with the help of Biggar. John Hardie on the side of the

:46:07. > :46:11.scrum. A free kick, quickly taken by Rhys Webb. Scott Williams, long to

:46:12. > :46:17.Leigh Halfpenny. A chance for Wales and Lee Williams, the first try of

:46:18. > :46:22.the game. Rhys Webb has already taken a quick tap, this one, the

:46:23. > :46:29.timing and the accuracy from Leigh Halfpenny, perfect for him to score

:46:30. > :46:33.in the left-hand corner. Quick thinking from Rhys Webb, really in

:46:34. > :46:48.-- really narrow in defence, Scotland.

:46:49. > :46:59.The break by Rhys Webb, the pass to Williams, Liam Williams cuts back

:47:00. > :47:05.inside. Rob Evans and support, held off the ball. Will it go to review?

:47:06. > :47:10.I think it will. That man, Rhys Webb, again. I think he's so cute

:47:11. > :47:18.here, I don't think the rest will pick up on it. We'll have a look

:47:19. > :47:27.here. So quick in his run, the pass is good and we're at Rhys Webb.

:47:28. > :47:37.Very, very subtle. The penalty against Rhys Webb is given. The

:47:38. > :47:38.shake of the head, but he knows. Warren Gatland, the Lions coach,

:47:39. > :47:57.watching on. Fraser Brown. With great deliberation, set up the

:47:58. > :48:08.driving maul. Harry Price, that's Rob Evans, scrapping away for the

:48:09. > :48:13.ball. High tackle given. Against Sam Warburton. He wanted to get his arms

:48:14. > :48:19.around the ball carry holding up, that's a good tackle by Dan Biggar

:48:20. > :48:23.but it's still advantage Scotland. That's a good pasta Stuart Hogg.

:48:24. > :48:33.Halfpenny goes back. Hogg in hot pursuit. Coming back with a penalty.

:48:34. > :48:39.Claimed the try. He has a little smile about it all. We go back to

:48:40. > :48:43.the penalty. This is where it ends, on the chip through. He was claiming

:48:44. > :48:51.a try, but how well has Leigh Halfpenny done there, and a huge

:48:52. > :48:54.amounts of pressure? -- under huge amounts of pressure? Hamish Watson

:48:55. > :49:05.played scrum-half. It comes out to John Barclay and again, no way

:49:06. > :49:15.through. Russell, to Hogg. It's going to be Seymour, or is it?

:49:16. > :49:25.Well, Scott Williams has made that tackle, and unbelievable tackle.

:49:26. > :49:36.REFEREE: Try, yes or no, please? Scott Williams comes across. It

:49:37. > :49:44.looks like a try for Tommy Seymour, it looks like Tommy Seymour has

:49:45. > :49:52.landed the ball. Try awarded by Jean Alesi. Tommy Seymour the scorer.

:49:53. > :49:56.Stuart Hogg delays his pass and Tim Visser does really well to draw on

:49:57. > :50:04.Leigh Halfpenny and release Seymour, who just gets the ball down.

:50:05. > :50:11.Ross Moriarty charges into midfield. Wales on the move, for the first

:50:12. > :50:16.time in this second half they have earned themselves a penalty. Rhys

:50:17. > :50:20.Webb looks one way, goes the other. Jonathan Davies, Davies for the

:50:21. > :50:23.line. The pass, can't find a man. Leigh Halfpenny is up there. It's

:50:24. > :50:36.gone forward. Oh! Wales, so close. Harry Price feeds the scrum. It's

:50:37. > :50:42.done well, quick ball, and awakens Ali Price. Tommy Seymour gives away

:50:43. > :50:51.the penalty, crossing, obstruction. It's a penalty for Wales. Its wide

:50:52. > :50:55.out. What's the option here? If you go on the England game, Alun Wyn

:50:56. > :51:00.Jones went for the corner. Dan Biggar looks as if he's shaping up

:51:01. > :51:07.to go for the corner as well. Dan Biggar asks the question. Ryan

:51:08. > :51:11.Bobbin try is indicated. They've indicated to go for goal, so they

:51:12. > :51:17.can't change their mind. Oh, no, he hasn't. They can. Wales for the

:51:18. > :51:25.corner. I thought once you've indicated, it's halfway across the

:51:26. > :51:31.fields. If anything comes of this, but it's obstruction. Ken Owens, Sam

:51:32. > :51:37.Warburton, the drive comes on. Wales obstruct in front of the ball.

:51:38. > :51:47.Penalty to Scotland and Jonny Gray celebrates. The crowd are relieved.

:51:48. > :51:55.Change at scrum-half. Yes, Henry Pyrgos, a very experienced

:51:56. > :52:05.campaigner. Most similar to Greig Laidlaw. It's out, Rhys Webb steals.

:52:06. > :52:09.Can he finish? It will go to review. That's a question of a try, yes, or

:52:10. > :52:14.no. Rhys Webb has been outstanding so far. Look how sharp he's been a

:52:15. > :52:19.game. If he beats Tim Visser, in half a metre of space, it's an

:52:20. > :52:26.incredible finish. Look at his left hand. It looks like it touches the

:52:27. > :52:34.line just before. Just in touch. Line-out. Scotland throw. So close.

:52:35. > :52:48.Fraser Brown, the hooker. Still there on the Scottish side.

:52:49. > :53:08.Pyrgos to John Barclay. Russell, long to Hogg. Tim Visser.

:53:09. > :53:15.Scotland break out and their lead goes.

:53:16. > :53:23.Watch this for a pass from Stuart Hogg. Quick as you can through the

:53:24. > :53:29.hands. Boldin George North. Watch this from the past, through the

:53:30. > :53:32.hands. Tim Visser goes again. STUDIO:

:53:33. > :53:37.Here we are, three fifths of the way through it and England are on top,

:53:38. > :53:40.courtesy of the bonus point today at Twickenham, three points clear of

:53:41. > :53:46.Ireland but it's a 3-way title fight. England against Scotland next

:53:47. > :53:50.time round and Wales against Ireland on Friday night. Edinburgh was

:53:51. > :53:52.rocking late last night, I vaguely recall, and there were two

:53:53. > :53:56.conversations that were dominating the debate. One of which was

:53:57. > :54:01.Seymour's try, of which more in a moment. The other was the Welsh

:54:02. > :54:05.supporters saying, Alun Wyn Jones and the kick for the corner, or the

:54:06. > :54:07.kick for goal. You've been in that situation many times in

:54:08. > :54:12.International Rugby Board stop if we just hear the conversation that

:54:13. > :54:20.actually took place during that, and then you can put your spin on it.

:54:21. > :54:29.I'll have the penalty. Corner, out, out. Hang on, do you want to go

:54:30. > :54:42.corner? Indicators. He is indicated. He's indicated, he told me. No,

:54:43. > :54:45.boys, boys, let's go. So, what's happening there? I don't know if

:54:46. > :54:50.Alun Wyn Jones did indicate to the corner but if he did, and this is

:54:51. > :54:54.the killer of the penalty here that comes after, but if he did, when I

:54:55. > :54:57.was in that position, when it was that far out to the touchline, if I

:54:58. > :55:00.fancied having a go I'd make sure the kicker was interested in having

:55:01. > :55:05.a go as well. There's nothing worse than having a kicker who doesn't

:55:06. > :55:12.fancy taking a shot, so you have the conversation before you make the

:55:13. > :55:15.declaration, but I think one of the things that has happened there, if

:55:16. > :55:18.you do decide to go to the corner, the penalty there is a killer. They

:55:19. > :55:21.need to at least win the ball and if it's on the ground at least they are

:55:22. > :55:27.five metres on the Scottish line with possession. If they give away a

:55:28. > :55:31.penalty, Scotland can exit with a 40 metre kick down the pitch and it's a

:55:32. > :55:33.killer blow to the mentality. If you see the Scottish players celebrating

:55:34. > :55:38.when the penalty was awarded, that was a big moment in the game. Lets

:55:39. > :55:45.see the Seymour try. Was this crossing? Should it have been a

:55:46. > :55:52.penalty? Or was it brilliant? It's good play. The dummy runner comes

:55:53. > :55:56.in, but Liam bites on it, he's out of the game because he's in front of

:55:57. > :56:01.the ball. It's obstruction that creates a space for Visser on the

:56:02. > :56:06.outside. Because he bites early tokens of the gap for Vista, he runs

:56:07. > :56:09.inside shoulder for Leigh Halfpenny and he scores. So, for me, I don't

:56:10. > :56:16.think it's obstruction. They called it right. He in front of the ball.

:56:17. > :56:18.Paul, what do you think? I think it's obstruction. I don't think he's

:56:19. > :56:23.in a position to get the ball and he's in front of Hogg when Hogg

:56:24. > :56:27.passes the ball. If Hogg had given it there, it wasn't, but he's in

:56:28. > :56:33.front of Hogg when he passes the ball. I think it's borderline 50-50.

:56:34. > :56:39.He can be in front of him, he just can't beat the left side as we look

:56:40. > :56:43.the right side of him. But Liam Williams, if Liam Williams ran into

:56:44. > :56:50.Hugh Jones, its penalty. Look at that offensive linemen, Finn Russell

:56:51. > :56:53.flies the pass out on the outside shoulder, George North has to make a

:56:54. > :56:57.decision. He's jumped out of the line again. It's a brilliant pass,

:56:58. > :57:04.on normal speed the two passes bullet like. The passive quick and

:57:05. > :57:11.then the Hogg pass, this is in slow motion. He zips it out, there it

:57:12. > :57:16.goes, but shooting up the line a bit, and if you hit his outside

:57:17. > :57:19.shoulder with the pass, the path could beat him, but the difference

:57:20. > :57:26.has been for Wales, for me, the penalty kick, go for goal or not.

:57:27. > :57:31.16-13, a conversion rate in scoring tries from those positions are very

:57:32. > :57:36.low, so you get back and you are drawing again. So for me, Scotland,

:57:37. > :57:42.they are asking questions of the Welsh defence, where we aren't doing

:57:43. > :57:45.that anymore. Well, so many questions, not many answers, but

:57:46. > :57:49.actually, riveting, absolutely riveting for the weekend. Thank you,

:57:50. > :57:53.guys, for being with us. In a fortnight's time, Wales and Ireland

:57:54. > :57:57.on the Friday night, on the Saturday night it is utterly against France

:57:58. > :58:00.and England against Scotland. England have now won ten matches in

:58:01. > :58:06.a row in the championship for the first time in 92 years. Scanned

:58:07. > :58:10.Scotland or Ireland beat them? What tactics will they employ? We will

:58:11. > :58:25.see you in two weeks' time. Thank you for watching. Goodbye.

:58:26. > :58:38.COMMENTATOR: The opening try. A corner. What a

:58:39. > :58:48.try for England. Three tries. He's in. Anthony Watson. Danny Care. This

:58:49. > :58:54.is why he's been picked in England's Grand Slam. Ben Te'o. Elliot Daly

:58:55. > :59:03.for England scores! Care. So, apparently Red Nose Day is back.

:59:04. > :59:06.Cool. We love Red Nose Day. Yes. So, Comic Relief have asked

:59:07. > :59:11.if we could maybe help this year. Comic Relief? Yes.

:59:12. > :59:14.So, like, what is that? Right.