Wales v England

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:00:44. > :00:56.The seeds are the same the grass is the same, everything is the same. It

:00:57. > :00:59.is just another ground. There was plenty of exciting rugby, plenty of

:01:00. > :01:18.exciting rugby, plenty of exciting rugby...

:01:19. > :01:26.Wales can celebrate! Wales council of rate! Wales can rate!

:01:27. > :02:18.The first meeting was almost 140 years ago, and supremacy has ebbed

:02:19. > :02:25.and flowed like the River Severn in between, 60 wins to England, a

:02:26. > :02:28.rivalry like you others, such close neighbours, such fierce opponents,

:02:29. > :02:31.friend and foe in equal measure, and the winners tonight will be in pole

:02:32. > :02:40.position to be crowned Six Nations champions. Although Ireland could

:02:41. > :02:45.yet have a significant say in that after an emphatic victory in Rome by

:02:46. > :02:49.63-10, and that means they are the first team not only to pick up a

:02:50. > :02:55.losing bonus point macro in Murrayfield last week, but only a

:02:56. > :03:02.winning bonus point, currently top, as you can see. This is as eagerly

:03:03. > :03:06.anticipated a game as this great stadium has seen an awful long time,

:03:07. > :03:09.and as you can see the roof is open, as I am sure most of you will know,

:03:10. > :03:14.after England demanded it be that way early in the week, which means

:03:15. > :03:21.for the 75,000 in here today, and us in our brand-new, deluxe outdoor

:03:22. > :03:24.studio, it is freezing! Serious wind-chill, the temperature has to

:03:25. > :03:31.be hovering around freezing. Jeremy Guscott, Martyn Williams, but a big

:03:32. > :03:34.bit of team news, George North will not be playing in this match this

:03:35. > :03:38.afternoon because of the injury he sustained in Rome last weekend, and

:03:39. > :03:43.that means that Alex Cuthbert is on the field now, warming up to win his

:03:44. > :03:48.latest cap on the wing. It means the Welsh bench remains the same, and

:03:49. > :03:52.Dan Biggar, despite that bank to the ribs last week in Rome, will start

:03:53. > :03:59.for Wales this afternoon. Martyn, obvious question, how big a blow is

:04:00. > :04:02.that? It is a huge blow, on the form he is as lethal as any winger in the

:04:03. > :04:06.northern hemisphere. Alex Cuthbert has trained all week, they didn't

:04:07. > :04:12.expect George to poor through, so the whole of Wales is hoping Alex

:04:13. > :04:17.Cuthbert can rediscover his previous form. Let's talk about the roof,

:04:18. > :04:21.then we can move on! How big an impact, it is quite a crisp

:04:22. > :04:27.afternoon, lovely conditions for playing, what bearing does it have?

:04:28. > :04:31.I think, Eddie being Eddie, making the roof the subject of the week,

:04:32. > :04:37.everybody's attention was drawn to that, rather than the players, what

:04:38. > :04:42.was England's back row going to be made up of? He has done the job,

:04:43. > :04:50.England might just edge wins when the roof has been open in the recent

:04:51. > :04:54.past, so that might be a say -- a psychological edge. And the Welsh

:04:55. > :04:59.love it closed. They don't want to give them their way, that is the big

:05:00. > :05:03.thing. Ireland always wanted the roof open, and probably only because

:05:04. > :05:08.Wales wanted it closed. It is all about not giving them their way, not

:05:09. > :05:11.letting them get away with anything. You made the point macro that

:05:12. > :05:15.England were almost afraid in Cardiff, but looking at the

:05:16. > :05:21.statistics, there is a myth about that, because during the course of

:05:22. > :05:27.this Six Nations, it is played eight, won four, lost four, but is

:05:28. > :05:31.this a different proposition? The game is the game, it doesn't matter

:05:32. > :05:38.who you are playing, you are still as intense, but this is the build-up

:05:39. > :05:44.for the week, you cannot get away from it as a player. I would love to

:05:45. > :05:47.play here, the atmosphere is the best in the world. EQ is getting

:05:48. > :05:55.over the bridge have been extensive, putting it mildly. -- the queues.

:05:56. > :06:01.England fans are revelling in their side's unbeaten run, even when they

:06:02. > :06:02.are not playing particularly well, like against the French at

:06:03. > :06:24.Twickenham last weekend. Contrasting fortunes, a day of white

:06:25. > :06:46.and blue. No, yes, yes! No. 14 games

:06:47. > :07:22.undefeated, 2016 undefeated. Down, up, still up, 15 wins, every

:07:23. > :07:26.reason to be up. Eddie, France gave you a fright, how wary of Wales and

:07:27. > :07:30.everything that comes with playing in Cardiff? Very good side, Wales,

:07:31. > :07:35.good performance to win assertively in the second half against Italy,

:07:36. > :07:38.and we are anticipating a very tough game today. You have just

:07:39. > :07:42.experienced your first bus ride through the streets of Cardiff with

:07:43. > :07:46.England, what was that like? A bit like going to the game in

:07:47. > :07:50.Johannesburg or Pretoria, a lot of supporters in Bybee, having a good

:07:51. > :08:01.time, it adds to the atmosphere. -- in by -- imbibing. I have never

:08:02. > :08:04.spoken about a roof so much in my life! It creates an enormous amount

:08:05. > :08:10.of interest, it looks pretty good open. Given that you did not play

:08:11. > :08:15.well last week, awful to use your words, you are away from home, it is

:08:16. > :08:26.Wales, is this the biggest test under your ten tenure? It is the

:08:27. > :08:31.biggest test now, it is a fantastic stadium, the crowd is close to the

:08:32. > :08:37.ground, good surface, you're playing Wales, traditional game, good time

:08:38. > :08:41.to bounce back. Good luck. This game is steeped in history, two gentleman

:08:42. > :08:45.here are played more than their part, Jonathan Davies and Brian

:08:46. > :08:49.Moya. 50 years ago almost to the day, one of the most famous

:08:50. > :08:53.incidents in the history of Wales against England, when Keith Jarrett,

:08:54. > :08:57.making his debut for Wales at full-back, picked up this kick and

:08:58. > :09:06.around 60 metres down the field in one of the great tries here. Look at

:09:07. > :09:13.that, courted on the first bounce, and one CB to the first man, there

:09:14. > :09:18.was no catching him. -- once he beat. There was a post match meal

:09:19. > :09:23.here, he missed the last bus home to Newport, and a bus tribe was walking

:09:24. > :09:28.home, see him and said, you are my hero, I am going to go to the depot

:09:29. > :09:32.and get a bus specially to take you home, because you have just scored

:09:33. > :09:36.that try to beat England today. If we fast forward 20 years to a less

:09:37. > :09:41.savoury moment in the history of this fixture, a significant moment

:09:42. > :09:49.in your career. It was, because shortly after this fracas, shall we

:09:50. > :09:56.say, I got 64 caps in a row after Graham was dropped! Noticed that

:09:57. > :10:14.Alba one rob Andrew there. No, it is before the watershed! -- notice that

:10:15. > :10:17.elbow on Rob Andrew. Wales' problem, if we can transform ourselves,

:10:18. > :10:21.today's game, create and scored tries, it will be a very close

:10:22. > :10:34.encounter, but England have got the edge, with the axis, they are so

:10:35. > :10:40.good at playing off each other, for me, a lot of people are saying

:10:41. > :10:44.emotion is less in the professional game, but not today for Wales. They

:10:45. > :10:48.have got to pile into England from the start, and I think it is

:10:49. > :10:54.important that they have a good start, Wales. At what point does the

:10:55. > :10:57.unbeaten run become a burden? I am not sure it should be, they have to

:10:58. > :11:01.keep addressing the next game, and they will at some point lose, but

:11:02. > :11:06.the important thing is how they bounce back, not much of an issue.

:11:07. > :11:10.Very quickly, would you like to have played under Eddie Jones? I would,

:11:11. > :11:16.he is world-class committee keeps you on your toes, he has always got

:11:17. > :11:21.something to save. -- he is a world-class coach, he keeps you on

:11:22. > :11:30.your toes. I played and two some Australian coaches, they are great,

:11:31. > :11:36.they have mental toughness. There is the England hooker, Dylan Hartley,

:11:37. > :11:41.the England captain too, and under a huge amount of scrutiny not just

:11:42. > :11:46.playing ability but his conduct on the field. He is as combative and

:11:47. > :11:54.feisty as they come, so this ground is is kind of place.

:11:55. > :12:00.You are playing against a nation, a passionate crowd, I have been

:12:01. > :12:04.hammered by Wales, I have beaten them, it is a good place to play

:12:05. > :12:08.rugby, when you lose, it is intense, and when you win, it is a great

:12:09. > :12:16.feeling as well. This is definitely exciting. Have you ever ventured out

:12:17. > :12:27.in Cardiff before the game? No, I haven't, no. I've ventured out after

:12:28. > :12:31.a game! It is crazy. Everything from the stadium kind of goes onto the

:12:32. > :12:38.streets, there is an atmosphere that is unbelievable, it is a rugby

:12:39. > :12:44.capital, it is brilliant. On match day, what is it like to be on that

:12:45. > :12:49.England bus? It is good, I mean I think each player reacts to it

:12:50. > :12:53.differently. For me, seeing the streets lined with people, whether

:12:54. > :13:00.they are waving or throwing abuse at the bus, I think it is a great

:13:01. > :13:06.thing. Five or six guys haven't been down yet, and we have made it known

:13:07. > :13:12.to them what the atmosphere is going to be like. I thrive on it, I love

:13:13. > :13:16.the atmosphere. Cardiff, like I said, is a rugby capital, one of the

:13:17. > :13:22.rugby capital is in the world, and there is no better place to play.

:13:23. > :13:26.From an England perspective, when we have been talking about the roof, we

:13:27. > :13:30.have been talking about Dylan Hartley as well, how precarious his

:13:31. > :13:34.position is, and the axis at ten and 12, George Ford very much the centre

:13:35. > :13:38.after that, because he has got great hands and sets the backs going, but

:13:39. > :13:43.you have to be able to tackle in that channel. You have, primarily he

:13:44. > :13:49.is there because he is a great tactician, he's good at keeping

:13:50. > :13:52.England in the right part of the field, but to tackle, that is

:13:53. > :13:55.primary in the modern game, because some anime big guys come down that

:13:56. > :14:04.channel. Paul Gustard is going to be annoyed about those stats from last

:14:05. > :14:07.week, 34% of tackles were allowed, or they were passive, a guy is

:14:08. > :14:16.running into you and you are giving away ground. We have got an example

:14:17. > :14:20.from last week, and England put Ford at number nine, and I think in a way

:14:21. > :14:24.just to protect him a little bit, but I believe France have seen that,

:14:25. > :14:30.and off they have come, and they have seen it, and they're going to

:14:31. > :14:34.really target George. He makes the tackles, but look how much ground

:14:35. > :14:40.France have got. They have collected eight metres there without any

:14:41. > :14:50.trouble. From that point on, England are scrambling in defence, dogleg

:14:51. > :14:54.there, Picamoles takes a great line. George has gone straight to the win,

:14:55. > :14:59.they have gone over him, and it is a scrambling defence. Credit to

:15:00. > :15:02.Gustard and his team, because they have gone right to the flank, they

:15:03. > :15:07.are not banging into the French, but they make the scramble. This is key

:15:08. > :15:10.for me - if Wales have any cleverness about them, they would

:15:11. > :15:16.have spotted that, and I would expect them to target George Ford.

:15:17. > :15:22.The back row will be key, Maro Itoje in the back row, one of the most

:15:23. > :15:26.talked about players in English and world rugby. He alternates from the

:15:27. > :15:32.back row to the second row, how easy is that? It is easy if you are an

:15:33. > :15:36.athlete like this guy, it is hard if you are an old school second row. I

:15:37. > :15:41.think this is how the second row is going, the second rows of the future

:15:42. > :15:50.will be tall, athletic back rows. What he does is very similar to what

:15:51. > :15:52.he does in the second row, works really hard, carries hard, tackles

:15:53. > :15:56.hard. He is obviously a phenomenal player. I thought he was a bit high

:15:57. > :15:59.in how he went about his business at times last week, gave away a penalty

:16:00. > :16:04.for a high tackle and can carry a bit high but he is a phenomenal

:16:05. > :16:08.athletes to the guy he plays against today, Alun Wyn Jones.

:16:09. > :16:12.This is the intimidating atmosphere that Wales were hoping to bring

:16:13. > :16:17.against an inexperienced England back row in terms of the number of

:16:18. > :16:29.starts, only four in the back row. There is Jack Clifford from

:16:30. > :16:32.Harlequins, lots of people have said he will be a big star Rob the future

:16:33. > :16:36.but he has not played a lot of rugby this season. A big game for him. For

:16:37. > :16:38.me, the English back row was a bit cumbersome and slow last week, he is

:16:39. > :16:41.a fantastic athlete who brings pace and energy. If you think of who he

:16:42. > :16:46.is playing against, Tipuric, Moriarty and Warburton, they are a

:16:47. > :16:49.bit slower. He is a superb rugby player. Perhaps not your typical

:16:50. > :16:53.seven where he will be over the ball, he will have a big impact and

:16:54. > :16:57.needs to have a big impact. It almost goes without saying that

:16:58. > :17:00.this game is huge for the Welsh nation as a whole, it goes way

:17:01. > :17:06.beyond the rugby field. The excitement on the streets of Cardiff

:17:07. > :17:09.today has been such that you can almost reach out and touch it. The

:17:10. > :17:17.last 20 minutes in Rome last Sunday gave the fans genuine cause for

:17:18. > :17:21.optimism today. It has been described as a game that

:17:22. > :17:23.Wales cannot afford to lose. It has been ten years since the last

:17:24. > :17:40.Italian triumph. Clifford in number ten, he is in

:17:41. > :17:46.trouble. The Welsh hit the front for the first time in the match. Chips

:17:47. > :17:51.it onto Scott Williams. They go away. Jonathan Davies!

:17:52. > :17:55.It was easy in the end. Jonathan Davies again coming here is Liam

:17:56. > :18:01.Williams. Try number two. George North!

:18:02. > :18:08.There will be no bonus point for Wales.

:18:09. > :18:12.A good start away from home, what is it like to be back in Cardiff with

:18:13. > :18:16.England the opposition? With the best supporters in the world, great.

:18:17. > :18:20.Looking forward to the opportunity. Our form at home in the Six Nations

:18:21. > :18:24.is very good and we look to keep that this afternoon. You gave him

:18:25. > :18:29.every chance until the 11th hour, George North does not make it. How

:18:30. > :18:35.close did he come? Agog when he woke and saw the medical team it was

:18:36. > :18:38.pretty obvious he would not be available. With a six-day turnaround

:18:39. > :18:41.you want to give world-class players every opportunity, particularly for

:18:42. > :18:47.Wales against England, but on the + Dan Biggar is fit and will start. It

:18:48. > :18:52.would not be a Wales match if there was not a debate around the number

:18:53. > :19:00.ten. Why not play Sam Davies after his cameo in Italy? The National

:19:01. > :19:03.landscape is about the 23 players, Sam came on, did really well and did

:19:04. > :19:10.what he was opposed to, have an impact off the bench. We feel Dan is

:19:11. > :19:12.good to start, it is a 23 man squad. You will see changes last week on

:19:13. > :19:20.the front row and again this afternoon. Have a good afternoon.

:19:21. > :19:24.Cheers. STUDIO: We spoke about the significance of the back row battle,

:19:25. > :19:28.at the heart this evening will be Sam Warburton. Marti saw him this

:19:29. > :19:39.week, he is no longer captain but too many people he is Wales' top

:19:40. > :19:48.dog. Good to see you. How many have you got, now? Two. As well as these

:19:49. > :19:53.two, you have the added responsibility, you became a father

:19:54. > :19:56.seven or eight months ago. A new perspective? It is mad, pretty much

:19:57. > :20:05.all the forwards have kids and all the backs do not. You have to tie

:20:06. > :20:10.down a girl and get a family sorted, because looks only go in one

:20:11. > :20:16.direction! Has lately been fine? Lesley has been amazing. I have had

:20:17. > :20:20.dogs my whole life. It is a nice distraction, I can switch off

:20:21. > :20:24.easily. You can into my house, I only have one rugby jersey up in the

:20:25. > :20:29.whole house, you would not know I was a rugby player, when you go home

:20:30. > :20:32.I think you need to switch off. Alun Wyn Jones is the new captain of

:20:33. > :20:39.Wales, replacing Sam Warburton, who has been skipper for six years. The

:20:40. > :20:44.gal how has it been being Sam, rather than the captain? It is nice

:20:45. > :20:47.to focus on yourself, not have to worry about the media and press

:20:48. > :20:52.duties. Obertan you just think I just want to get back to just

:20:53. > :20:59.enjoying playing -- overtime you just think. And be the rugby player.

:21:00. > :21:02.I would still like a leadership role in the team. Alastair Cook has

:21:03. > :21:05.stepped down from the England cricket captaincy, he said he went

:21:06. > :21:10.to the well want to many times. Do you feel that was the case with you

:21:11. > :21:15.or was it a little bit more that you could have given? I always said it

:21:16. > :21:20.is like a relationship, nothing is mutual, when people break up and

:21:21. > :21:25.they say it is mutual, somebody started it! But I think this is

:21:26. > :21:28.pretty mutual. I put a lot of energy and time and effort into the

:21:29. > :21:35.captaincy, I found it tough at times, but as I look back over the

:21:36. > :21:40.five and a half, six years, I really prized -- really pleased I did it.

:21:41. > :21:46.Is there a game you would like to relive? I did not want to be a

:21:47. > :21:52.captain who had not won against the southern hemisphere team, so that

:21:53. > :21:59.was probably my favourite moment as captain. Wales have beaten South

:22:00. > :22:03.Africa! The time is right for him to do it, he is one of the form

:22:04. > :22:08.players, it is an easy transition for him to take over, and he has had

:22:09. > :22:13.a massive leadership role ever since I have been playing, since you were

:22:14. > :22:17.playing. When he came on as a youngster, you knew. It made the

:22:18. > :22:21.decision easier knowing such an experienced guy would come in and do

:22:22. > :22:26.a good job. I don't know how long I will play, I'm 28, whether I have

:22:27. > :22:33.three, four, five or six years, I want to enjoy them. Have you set any

:22:34. > :22:38.specific target? Lions is a big one? I thought the best players in the

:22:39. > :22:42.world ones have been on more than one World Cup and more than one

:22:43. > :22:47.Lions tour, it has improved their longevity. I would love to get to

:22:48. > :22:51.the next World Cup and the Lions tour, of course.

:22:52. > :22:56.Behave self-exploration mark here! Is this your therapy, to get away

:22:57. > :23:00.from the madness of Welsh rugby and the public? You know what it is like

:23:01. > :23:04.in Wales, when it is Wales and England, flipping heck, you can't go

:23:05. > :23:07.anywhere without people wishing you luck, it is massive. Players get

:23:08. > :23:11.that from Monday all through the week, when you are in the hotel,

:23:12. > :23:17.they constantly ask. We will be OK, as Eddie said, they

:23:18. > :23:21.will fight going into Cardiff. We just enjoy the hype, you can tell

:23:22. > :23:30.the fans are loving this. It makes for a great game.

:23:31. > :23:34.There he is, minus his dogs. Do you detect any difference in war but in

:23:35. > :23:39.the player, as opposed to the player and captain? Agog he was so relaxed

:23:40. > :23:46.when I saw him on Wednesday. It is a big burden, Paul could properly talk

:23:47. > :23:52.about it more than me. Without that added burden of being captain as

:23:53. > :23:56.well, he is really thriving. Captaincy can sometimes be a lonely

:23:57. > :24:00.job, especially when you are struggling with injury, you want to

:24:01. > :24:03.focus on yourself and be the best you can be, but you have to look

:24:04. > :24:12.after the team, so it works out very well. Alun Wyn would have hated to

:24:13. > :24:16.have retired and not had a period as the Welsh captain, so it is good

:24:17. > :24:22.that Sam is happy to see the back of it for a while and Alun Wyn can work

:24:23. > :24:29.on it for a while. They use Tipuric and Warburton a lot last week. The

:24:30. > :24:33.big question for Wales for four or five years is whether they can play

:24:34. > :24:41.together. We saw Princes last week that they could. Tipuric last week,

:24:42. > :24:47.it enables Sam to play inside. He goes for the first contact. It is

:24:48. > :24:51.not needed. This would be a concern for me, how far Justin Tipuric is

:24:52. > :24:56.from the ball. They did that superbly well, it was nice and

:24:57. > :25:02.clean. Some did not get over. But this is way DC the best of both

:25:03. > :25:06.players, this skill and timing, it looks easy -- this is where you see

:25:07. > :25:11.the best of both players. I think the way that Wales hope to

:25:12. > :25:16.play, Tipuric is the player you want in the Middle where he can go out

:25:17. > :25:22.the back go on. Going into the game, this is where Wales are ahead,

:25:23. > :25:25.Warburton over the ball, Tipuric as well, they both have to be on top of

:25:26. > :25:35.their game if Wales are to stand a chance. Statistically England have a

:25:36. > :25:38.better turnover rate. Talking about the captaincy, the words of Alun Wyn

:25:39. > :25:41.Jones are the entire front page of the Western mail today, he is

:25:42. > :25:47.talking about the anthem, he says you have to sing it as if it is the

:25:48. > :25:50.last time. It is not 23 on the park and 75,000 in the stands, we are all

:25:51. > :25:56.together, for those few minutes we are connected. It gives the team

:25:57. > :26:00.that extra edge, it is special. In terms of his position and authority

:26:01. > :26:04.in the second row, he is a giant of a man on and off the field. He is

:26:05. > :26:10.fantastic, it is hard to believe that at 31 years of age she has 106

:26:11. > :26:14.caps. He is 120 kilos, a big old school lump of a second row, that he

:26:15. > :26:19.has the workrate and fitness of a smaller man, he is like a number

:26:20. > :26:25.seven in batter Josey. I was lucky enough to tour with him on two Lions

:26:26. > :26:31.tours and I was blown away. He will bring away a certain level of...

:26:32. > :26:35.Here he is, in the new way that Wales will play, he will be

:26:36. > :26:40.brilliant. He has lovely hands, just like Tipuric, he will be brilliant.

:26:41. > :26:45.I was blown away at how big his engine was and how fit he was. Going

:26:46. > :26:50.past 34-macro Italians, produces a quick ball for Italy. He has a

:26:51. > :26:55.fantastic engine for such a big man. This is a bad clip for me, he is

:26:56. > :27:01.still good at the old school second row stuff, he catches me napping and

:27:02. > :27:04.blows me off the ball. Wales scored about two or three minutes after

:27:05. > :27:08.that. It was a big moment in the game.

:27:09. > :27:12.Not that you remember! Dan Biggar is playing, on Sunday night you said

:27:13. > :27:17.you would be amazed if he started, because of the bang in the ribs. Eye

:27:18. > :27:23.40s did less of a chance the George North, anyone who has injured their

:27:24. > :27:28.ribs, that is very painful. -- I thought he stood less of a chance.

:27:29. > :27:31.But I would have picked in today, he is a big occasion player, you was

:27:32. > :27:38.the catalyst for Wales to get back into the game. I agree with Martyn,

:27:39. > :27:44.he starts for me because of his tactics and strategy. He has been

:27:45. > :27:48.pulling the strings for Wales for a couple of seasons. He has the X

:27:49. > :27:51.Factor and the magic, that can command when England are tired, or

:27:52. > :27:57.when they are at their strongest he may be able to counter that with

:27:58. > :28:01.vision and ability. The key conversation at half time will be

:28:02. > :28:06.when we look at who both sides have got to bring in the last 20 minutes,

:28:07. > :28:10.where so many international Zol won and lost. Cuthbert has had some

:28:11. > :28:15.great moments and some horror games, how big a test is this for him,

:28:16. > :28:18.being parachuted from nowhere? He would have known from the start of

:28:19. > :28:22.the week that he would play of George did not. He burst onto the

:28:23. > :28:26.scene and was superb, but he has really had a tough 18 months. You

:28:27. > :28:31.need confidence, you hope that something positive can happen from

:28:32. > :28:38.his first touch. He is a finisher, he has bags of pace, he needs the

:28:39. > :28:42.first touch of the confidence. The pyrotechnics are starting, we are

:28:43. > :28:48.getting closer. It is almost time for the talking to stop and the

:28:49. > :28:52.players to start. Jeremy? I look forward to this, you look at the

:28:53. > :28:56.Welsh side, the quality of player. Those experienced players, the

:28:57. > :28:59.Lions, they have not played to the best of their ability. They have the

:29:00. > :29:03.most room to improve. The worrying factor for that would be that

:29:04. > :29:07.England have not reached anywhere near their potential and are winning

:29:08. > :29:12.games. They seem to rise above and get the victory. I feel this,

:29:13. > :29:20.generally I have not seen a nation want to win a game as badly as

:29:21. > :29:22.Wales, knock England off their stool. England have been superb over

:29:23. > :29:27.the last year under Eddie Jones. The big man is on the pitch, saying

:29:28. > :29:36.this is our game, this is Welsh rugby. Paul, who wins it for you? I

:29:37. > :29:41.really fancy Wales. Most people here fancy Wales! Maybe it is because it

:29:42. > :29:44.is my first time here, I cannot get over the atmosphere, just

:29:45. > :29:48.incredible. My first time here for an England Wales game, mind blowing.

:29:49. > :29:56.I fancy Wales, the motion will be high.

:29:57. > :30:01.-- the emotion. One very special person watching us this afternoon,

:30:02. > :30:05.Harry Walker, 102 today, the oldest surviving international rugby player

:30:06. > :30:12.in the world, he made his debut for England in Cardiff in 1947, England

:30:13. > :30:15.won 9-6 but Wales topped the table. Harry, watching at home in Coventry,

:30:16. > :30:19.it was not like this in your day and I hope you have a great birthday.

:30:20. > :30:26.Before the game gets under way we will have the minutes's silence for

:30:27. > :30:29.great players ever to grace the stadium and all the other great

:30:30. > :30:32.grounds of the world cheering and absolutely stellar career including

:30:33. > :30:37.captaining the Springboks and being an indelible part of South Africa's

:30:38. > :30:51.1995 World Cup triumph. Who could ever forget those tackles?

:30:52. > :30:55.This week Joost van der Westhuizen died from motor neurone disease, and

:30:56. > :30:56.we will have a moment's silence in memory of one of the greatest

:30:57. > :32:08.scrum-halves of all time. APPLAUSE

:32:09. > :32:09.The anthems coming up now, then commentary from Jonathan Davies,

:32:10. > :32:17.Brian Moore and Eddie Butler. # Mae hen wlad fy nhadau

:32:18. > :33:28.yn annwyl i mi # Gwlad beirdd a chantorion,

:33:29. > :33:40.enwogion o fri # Ei gwrol ryfelwyr,

:33:41. > :34:59.gwladgarwyr tra mad Late in the afternoon in the second

:35:00. > :35:06.weekend of the Six Nations of 2017, Alun Wyn Jones, the Welsh captain,

:35:07. > :35:10.bellows out the anthem. The props that came on as replacements against

:35:11. > :35:18.Italy start for Wales against England, Rob Evans and Tomas

:35:19. > :35:21.Francis. George North a late withdrawal, Alex Cuthbert on the

:35:22. > :35:31.right wing, Dan Biggar has recovered from a bruised rib to partner Rhys

:35:32. > :35:34.Webb as the half-backs. One change in the England starting back, Jack

:35:35. > :35:39.Clifford in the back row for Tom would, who starts on the bench. The

:35:40. > :35:49.back row has only 20 caps in all, against Wales's 130. Jonny May goes

:35:50. > :35:52.to the bench. England A-level slow out of the blocks in game one, they

:35:53. > :36:00.will be looking for more speed everywhere. -- a little slow.

:36:01. > :36:04.Taulupe Faletau returns to the Wales squad, he has been out with a knee

:36:05. > :36:11.injury, Ben Te'o game off the bench to score the winner against France.

:36:12. > :36:22.Jerome Garces of France will be in charge today, he will be a busy man,

:36:23. > :36:25.referees always an nowadays, with new protocols, new directives. Their

:36:26. > :36:33.role becomes ever more important. And on such a day as this, he is

:36:34. > :36:48.going to be such a figure. Dan Biggar, over his injury.

:36:49. > :36:59.Maro Itoje, Jack Clifford, youngsters in the England back row.

:37:00. > :37:07.It is Wales against England in Cardiff. Itoje goes up, claims for

:37:08. > :37:18.England. Ross Moriarty brings the England back row down. Ben Youngs,

:37:19. > :37:34.towards Dan Biggar. Scott Williams. Itoje and Clifford,

:37:35. > :37:39.six and seven combination. Alun Wyn Jones in midfield, gets over the

:37:40. > :37:42.halfway line. Biggar, Halfpenny, Jonathan Davies. Stays away from the

:37:43. > :38:08.touchline. Justin Tipuric finding space, a wing

:38:09. > :38:14.forward in the wide channels. Jake Ball. Good tackle by Dylan Hartley.

:38:15. > :38:24.Moriarty, good tackle of him by Courtney Lawes. Wales have the

:38:25. > :38:28.penalty. A couple of things there, first thing, good refereeing, Rhys

:38:29. > :38:33.Webb not rolling away. England did not commit hardly anyone to the

:38:34. > :38:38.tackle area, and the two ball-carriers targeted George Ford,

:38:39. > :38:41.that should be the target. George Ford, run him all day, tire him out,

:38:42. > :38:47.so when he gets the ball offensively, he will not be so

:38:48. > :38:53.effective. This penalty is what they call a coach killer, given away on

:38:54. > :38:57.the ten metres line when there was really no threat, no need to hang

:38:58. > :39:03.around on the floor. The players know that if they don't get out of

:39:04. > :39:07.the way of the receiving player, penalties are going to come, because

:39:08. > :39:14.referees are very hard on that - unnecessary. And Wales did not

:39:15. > :39:16.penetrate that ten metres line, the defence was good, penalty given

:39:17. > :39:31.away, though. Leigh Halfpenny just needs five more

:39:32. > :39:37.points to pass the 300 in the Six Nations. He has passed 500 in

:39:38. > :39:43.general, but in the Six Nations. This to move to 298.

:39:44. > :39:52.He likes it, couldn't be straighter, Wales take an early lead in the

:39:53. > :40:12.Principality Stadium. Alex Cuthbert under pressure from

:40:13. > :40:25.Elliot Daly. I thought he was taken in the air there.

:40:26. > :40:35.Charged down for Rhys Webb, Itoje texted, the ball away to Daly. Jack

:40:36. > :40:39.Clifford taking the ball for Owen Farrell. Ben Youngs to Joe

:40:40. > :40:58.Launchbury. Jack Nowell, into the Welsh 22.

:40:59. > :41:11.Jonathan Joseph goes to scrum-half and feeds Dan Cole.

:41:12. > :41:17.Wales have riposte England from the 22, but England comeback, well into

:41:18. > :41:23.the Wales 22 now through Jonathan Joseph. Hartley on the short ball.

:41:24. > :41:34.Robbed by Dan Biggar, brilliant bit of stripping of the ball by the

:41:35. > :41:44.Welsh ten. Rhys Webb has time to clear map not to touch, just into

:41:45. > :41:50.the England have. Moriarty and Ken Owens with the tackles.

:41:51. > :42:03.Nathan Hughes knocks on, they try to launch a counter, Halfpenny gets a

:42:04. > :42:12.boot to it. Back goes Jack Clifford, in touch. That is a tremendous kick,

:42:13. > :42:23.made possible by the work of Dan Biggar.

:42:24. > :42:30.There is the tackle. He lost the ball, but England will not be happy,

:42:31. > :42:34.they have made two handling errors that have caused them back into this

:42:35. > :42:36.position, so two errors. But they are very effective. Courtney Lawes

:42:37. > :42:56.catches from Dylan Hartley. Ben Youngs waits patiently behind

:42:57. > :43:01.the advancing maul and is quite happy, after such a line-out, to go

:43:02. > :43:05.directly to touch. He will be a key man today, he puts the tempo in the

:43:06. > :43:13.game, and when it beaters out a little bit, they can put Danny Care

:43:14. > :43:19.on. All the runners are coming off Ben Youngs, great defence, though.

:43:20. > :43:33.Gumshield out as well! Clean ball down to Rhys Webb. Scott Williams.

:43:34. > :43:41.Cuts inside, makes ground. Advantage to England being played, and it has

:43:42. > :43:45.turned into a penalty to England. He is in some discomfort there. That

:43:46. > :43:53.Ise-Shima Wales, because the gap had opened up. -- that is a shame for

:43:54. > :44:02.Wales. England have their first real opportunity. Good feed by Scott

:44:03. > :44:10.Williams, spotted use, cut inside him. -- spotted Hughes. Nathan

:44:11. > :44:24.Hughes against Tipuric, who makes half a yard.

:44:25. > :44:37.Rhys Webb with an important tackle on the big number eight. Launchbury.

:44:38. > :44:47.England with numbers here. Crucial tackle, numbers on the outside, by

:44:48. > :44:53.Jonathan Davies. Alun Wyn Jones has stolen the ball for Wales, facing a

:44:54. > :44:55.horrible overlap against them, they have turned the ball over. Moriarty

:44:56. > :45:42.comes away with it. A high tackle, I think. Brilliant

:45:43. > :45:49.dive. Catching in the goalie. Back to the high tackle. England with a

:45:50. > :45:53.penalty. This will be one of the ones that

:45:54. > :46:02.looks fairly iniquitous, I think he was on the way down. No, it was a

:46:03. > :46:08.high tackle. Earlier when England had a turn,

:46:09. > :46:13.there were defenders on the blindside who did well. They had to

:46:14. > :46:17.guess. With the ball going out wide over the top, or would it hang back

:46:18. > :46:21.and drift? They chose to come forward, creating a situation where

:46:22. > :46:26.England were back inside, and then Alun Wyn Jones got into some

:46:27. > :46:34.trouble. I think the worry for Wales was the

:46:35. > :46:37.way with the ball. A desperate defence, they had created the

:46:38. > :46:42.overlap on the right-hand side. If the ball had gone it quickly, they

:46:43. > :46:48.were over. I think Ford just checked, stepped inside and the

:46:49. > :46:54.opportunity was missed. Do you think it has been a ploy for the Welsh

:46:55. > :46:57.clearance, Biggar and Evans, not keeping in touch? I am not sure that

:46:58. > :47:01.England will count about, the kicks have to be very good. -- England

:47:02. > :47:09.will counter that. Owen Farrell levels the scores.

:47:10. > :47:25.Three apiece in Cardiff. England managing what they did not

:47:26. > :47:33.do against France, which was make ground after the initial contact.

:47:34. > :47:42.That is making all the difference. Dan Biggar has split the forwards,

:47:43. > :47:52.as he did against Italy. Maro Itoje caught safely.

:47:53. > :47:58.Another penalty against Wales. Again, another completely

:47:59. > :48:04.unnecessary one. They will not drive the more than five yards, they will

:48:05. > :48:07.be outside the 22. All they have done now is give England the

:48:08. > :48:29.advantage, should this be kicked out.

:48:30. > :48:35.Dylan Hartley, the England captain. Joe Launchbury in the second row,

:48:36. > :48:46.Nathan Hughes, number eight. Penalty advantage, Courtney Lawes

:48:47. > :49:03.came away with it. A good pick-up by George Ford.

:49:04. > :49:10.Change of style, no advantage, that went straight out. We will go back

:49:11. > :49:16.to the penalty. Offside at the ruck. Just watch this, it is the change of

:49:17. > :49:23.angle. He steps inside. The forwards either side of George Ford, it is

:49:24. > :49:27.difficult to pick up. There are so many runners outside George Ford. He

:49:28. > :49:33.just picks the right one. At that angle he just runs the inside

:49:34. > :49:40.shoulder on Dan Biggar. A change of kicker. There is George Ford, he is

:49:41. > :49:47.not required as a pace kicker. For the moment. Elliot Daly, a left

:49:48. > :49:54.footer. Lovely left foot. Anything near the 48 or 50 mark, he steps up.

:49:55. > :50:00.Mike Brown has been a great servant for English rugby, but is this the

:50:01. > :50:03.next English full-back? Very intelligent player. I have seen in a

:50:04. > :50:34.club game kick from 58 metres. Distance no problem, direction...

:50:35. > :50:44.Not good. Just gave it is too much welly. Not bad, not good enough. We

:50:45. > :50:50.are all square. We have got to get some momentum back, keep possession.

:50:51. > :50:56.At the moment, England are just on top.

:50:57. > :51:15.Dan Biggar long into the England half.

:51:16. > :51:22.England seems to have an overlap again. The ball went backwards, said

:51:23. > :52:04.the referee. Looks to the touch judge. Play on, is the order.

:52:05. > :52:24.Tipuric try to hold him up and stripped the ball.

:52:25. > :53:11.Great tackle. Play on, no high tackle.

:53:12. > :53:19.Wales are fully stretched, trying to cover the gaps. Forged a Itoje.

:53:20. > :53:25.Halfpenny with the brilliant try saving tackle. But England still

:53:26. > :53:30.thunder at the Welsh line through Joe Launchbury. They need to put

:53:31. > :53:35.width on this. Ben Youngs calls more players in. Wales are shorter

:53:36. > :54:11.outright. -- short at the right. Itoje can't make it. Nathan Hughes

:54:12. > :54:29.could not make it. England still have it.

:54:30. > :54:41.The Welsh defence were still holding out until just now. I tell you what,

:54:42. > :54:47.fantastic, sustained pressure with a variety on the attack. George Ford,

:54:48. > :54:52.his little late passes. He is getting runners over the gain line.

:54:53. > :54:59.They got close and put the pressure on. Ben Youngs the last man up. Here

:55:00. > :55:06.is his finish. The ball could have gone earlier. The defenders were

:55:07. > :55:11.outnumbered. England eventually moved the ball wide, they went over

:55:12. > :55:15.the line and kept patient. Wales are not able to stop the ball at the

:55:16. > :55:20.source, they are not able to slow the ball down. England are getting a

:55:21. > :55:26.quick ball, any defence. When that happens and Wales did. That was an

:55:27. > :55:31.easy finish for Ben Youngs. They have been so powerful up front, they

:55:32. > :55:36.dragged Welsh players in and they have had numbers on the left. When

:55:37. > :55:38.the numbers left that ruck area, not enough numbers, Ben Youngs pops up

:55:39. > :55:56.on scores. -- and scores. England in the lead, but they can

:55:57. > :56:01.tap the two points. Wales three, England eight with the first try of

:56:02. > :56:10.the game. -- England in the lead but they cannot add the two points. What

:56:11. > :56:14.has been interesting, the variety of Ford's distribution, the delays in

:56:15. > :56:26.the past, some flat, some wider, keeping defenders guessing.

:56:27. > :56:34.Robert Evans, the proper, makes the tackle. Ben Youngs, down towards

:56:35. > :56:43.Leigh Halfpenny Lee. Was it touched in flight? They are clearing out

:56:44. > :56:52.going to the touchline. They are confident, come at us from a set

:56:53. > :57:08.piece. Are maybe not -- Wales are maybe not kicking into touch.

:57:09. > :57:38.Williams has had his first touch of the ball.

:57:39. > :57:45.Biggar thought about the kick but Timmy did. Very quick from Wales.

:57:46. > :58:01.This is low, they will have to generate quicker. -- this is slow.

:58:02. > :58:14.It is a free play now, a penalty. Wales earned a penalty. That is a

:58:15. > :58:24.lot better from Wales. REFEREE: You don't stay in the

:58:25. > :58:29.opposite side to block the player. I don't thing he understood much of

:58:30. > :58:32.that, to be honest. That was good from Wales, they cleaned out on the

:58:33. > :58:36.ball went wide. The one difference for me at the moment is the width,

:58:37. > :58:42.England cap their width. With the two phase attack with George, this

:58:43. > :58:49.has been the big difference so far, George Ford. His distribution has

:58:50. > :58:53.been brilliant. Wales take the three points, the two point game. He is

:58:54. > :58:59.initially on his feet and then he is not any more.

:59:00. > :59:00.It is the question of discipline, you know when you have a decent

:59:01. > :59:28.purchase or you have not. Leigh Halfpenny brings Wales to

:59:29. > :59:33.within two points of England. Wales six, England eight. It is a very,

:59:34. > :59:34.very good game at the moment. They have both come to play and everybody

:59:35. > :59:55.is enjoying it. George Ford for Elliot Daly to

:59:56. > :00:02.chase, straight out, was it? A lot of questions being asked, did Daly

:00:03. > :00:11.get it edge? -- get a touch? Straight out.

:00:12. > :00:25.LAUGHTER Good try! It was touched, I believe,

:00:26. > :00:30.look, yes, just that is hand on it. That is very good play by Elliot

:00:31. > :00:38.Daly otherwise. Good play by that man there.

:00:39. > :00:53.Well, this is the first scrum, and England suffered a bit against

:00:54. > :01:01.France. Wales have been very steady, rock-solid. Ross Moriarty picks the

:01:02. > :01:05.ball out of a scrum that had gone down.

:01:06. > :01:23.Oh, no! Well, no? Jonathan Davies on Mike Brown. It wasn't a knock-on, no

:01:24. > :01:31.advantage to Wales, it is a lead off for England. He did well there,

:01:32. > :01:37.Brown, under pressure. Halfpenny waits and catches cleanly. Jack

:01:38. > :01:43.Clifford and Itoje with the follow-up tackle. Ken Owens looked

:01:44. > :01:46.in pain, but he is up and about. Justin Tipuric, meanwhile, Ken Owens

:01:47. > :02:09.is back in the Welsh line. Webb from slow ball, Cuthbert sets

:02:10. > :02:14.off in pursuit. Dan Biggar! Nowell, Wales arrived, two metres from the

:02:15. > :02:28.England line. That is brilliant by Nowell to save the day.

:02:29. > :02:38.Ben Youngs has to clear, has to find touch. Wales have an attacking throw

:02:39. > :02:42.in the 22. Nowell did extremely well, not only did he field the

:02:43. > :02:48.ball, but he got back to allowing players to come back to secure it.

:02:49. > :02:55.The ball bounced favourably for Dan Biggar. He had no option, he was

:02:56. > :02:59.always going to win that race, but they go to ground, was that a

:03:00. > :03:08.knock-on? I don't think the ball went forward, he had no option. Was

:03:09. > :03:16.Jack Nowell not tackled there? Well, he let go. You can get up on his

:03:17. > :03:24.feet, that is great play. He holds Sam Warburton off. Such a fast first

:03:25. > :03:28.26 minutes, there will be tired legs out there, the gaps are going to

:03:29. > :03:32.open up in the last ten minutes of this game. It is all about the way

:03:33. > :03:36.you play the last ten minutes of this game, the first half. Ken Owens

:03:37. > :03:43.with the group, Wales in the England 22. -- with the throw.

:03:44. > :03:52.Not the quickest ball. Rhys Webb, Ross Moriarty delivers, Alun Wyn

:03:53. > :04:13.Jones, the captain. Ken Owens steps inside Maro Itoje.

:04:14. > :04:16.Webb, Warburton, Webb again, Biggar, Ross Moriarty! Scott Williams goes

:04:17. > :04:27.on his own. Webb, Biggar again. Biggar still

:04:28. > :04:31.going, held up, and now he is on the ground, Webb. Alun Wyn Jones

:04:32. > :04:53.stretches! One metre short! Play on! England have won it

:04:54. > :05:02.illegally. Anil Didi Wales. -- penalty to Wales.

:05:03. > :05:14.Good confident refereeing, isn't it? Well done, referee. May as well have

:05:15. > :05:21.a look. Don't ask the scrum-half if he thinks he scored, he will say

:05:22. > :05:27.yes, I am telling you! For me, the number nine tried to put the ball on

:05:28. > :05:32.the line, but it was short. But have a look, please. We are checking to

:05:33. > :05:37.see of the ball was grounded. If the referee is sure he was short,

:05:38. > :05:43.he should just carry on. Maybe he is not so sure. If the scrum-half says

:05:44. > :05:52.he thinks he scored, we cannot see it from there. That is short. This

:05:53. > :06:02.is the angle, short. Well short. Well done, referee! Never trust a

:06:03. > :06:07.scrum-half, see? For me, that is what I saw, short. And after, there

:06:08. > :06:13.is a turnover on the ground by white?

:06:14. > :06:23.The TMO, Glenn Newman of New Zealand. What do Wales do? Just hand

:06:24. > :06:33.the ball to Leigh Halfpenny? 9-8 would obviously put them in the

:06:34. > :06:39.lead. Scrum. Wales are going for the scrummage. It is a good call. You

:06:40. > :06:47.know, they have got great position, they are playing well. I'd have gone

:06:48. > :06:51.for the three points. It looks like they have got some special set

:06:52. > :07:02.please move here, a long chat amongst the backs. -- said these --

:07:03. > :07:11.set piece move. George Ford covering for the moment.

:07:12. > :07:24.Penalty to England! Dan Cole just getting forward and that is... That

:07:25. > :07:27.is a problem when you do not hook the ball, you cannot clear it unless

:07:28. > :07:46.you go forward. That is one for the English pack. I

:07:47. > :07:53.would always take the points. Look, it is not as if you have not got

:07:54. > :08:01.very reliable kicker yeah as well! The ball is still there, England

:08:02. > :08:08.going forward. Jack Clifford shows what it means to win that penalty.

:08:09. > :08:15.Nathan Hughes back to Ben Youngs. It hasn't gone that far, somebody has

:08:16. > :08:20.to claim it. Penalty to Wales now. Dan Cole kicks the ball away. I

:08:21. > :08:25.didn't really understand it, standing so far back when he is

:08:26. > :08:29.kicking it, the backline had encroached, they were offside, the

:08:30. > :08:32.forwards were in front, so far in front, so difficult to hold your run

:08:33. > :08:40.for the English forwards when you are so far back from the line-out.

:08:41. > :08:46.The decision this time, Leigh Halfpenny not called up, Dan Biggar

:08:47. > :08:59.does the old banana kick down the line. I am puzzled by that, I must

:09:00. > :09:07.admit. Definitely kickable. Two kickable penalties. Six probably

:09:08. > :09:13.guaranteed. -- six points. Ken Owens, the line-out is still in the

:09:14. > :09:21.England 22, won by Warburton. Knock-on by Wales. It is not going

:09:22. > :09:28.Wales' way at the moment, congratulations being passed around

:09:29. > :09:32.the England forwards. Well, whatever option you take, if you don't

:09:33. > :09:39.executed properly, it turns out to be the wrong one! Rob Howley will be

:09:40. > :09:43.frustrated. In a game that is likely to come down to a single score, if

:09:44. > :09:48.you have opportunities, you have got to take them. They have got one of

:09:49. > :09:49.the best kickers in the world. I would have taken one of those

:09:50. > :10:05.penalties, yes. Ben Youngs let's Nathan Hughes take

:10:06. > :10:19.control at the scrummage. The ball out, the referee holds his arms out.

:10:20. > :10:24.England have the put in. How quickly that got to the number eight's feet,

:10:25. > :10:26.when he was still down, easy yardage. With Wales, the strike

:10:27. > :10:43.wasn't there. That says it all, look at the

:10:44. > :10:45.tackles made. Wales have made 81 to England's 38, that just says the

:10:46. > :10:51.amount of possession that England have had. It is a good response by

:10:52. > :10:53.Wales to come back and put pressure, that is what they need, get the ball

:10:54. > :11:04.recycled, keep possession. Hughes comes away, tackled by

:11:05. > :11:19.Tipuric. Wales have turned the ball over. Ken

:11:20. > :11:27.Owens feeds Dan Biggar, Alex Cuthbert. He has seen very little of

:11:28. > :11:32.the ball, he sets it up and watches as Webb passes to Warburton. Rob

:11:33. > :11:47.Evans. Jonathan Davies, Tipuric, Liam

:11:48. > :11:53.Williams. Nowell did very well, picked him up, made sure he didn't

:11:54. > :12:07.drop him. Rob Evans, the proper! Webb weights. -- waits. He rides the

:12:08. > :12:22.first tackle, Wales will have to finish one of these attacks.

:12:23. > :12:33.Warbled and tries to twist and turn away from the ruck. -- Warburton.

:12:34. > :12:51.Alun Wyn Jones over the ball, Webb again. Ken Owens lays it back.

:12:52. > :12:59.The captain and his second row partner, Jake Ball.

:13:00. > :13:12.Good tackle by Joe Marler, Biggar, Scott Williams. Quick, quick, quick!

:13:13. > :13:18.Alun Wyn Jones knocks it on. He is offside, Ben Youngs, clearly

:13:19. > :13:22.offside. Nothing spotted, nothing given, England put in at the scrum.

:13:23. > :13:27.Surely that wasn't meant for Alun Wyn Jones. Well, Wales getting

:13:28. > :13:36.successively quick ball but not able to get over the line. One of the

:13:37. > :13:39.problems, I think, they are... He has got to be offside, look at this,

:13:40. > :13:48.he is clearly offside, that should be picked up. Wales have got to have

:13:49. > :13:52.someone who will step and beat the first tackle. The England defence

:13:53. > :13:58.are so well organised, so well disciplined, they are not creating

:13:59. > :14:00.any unders. Ben Youngs got away with it, that is all that matters for

:14:01. > :14:26.him. England lead by two points. Jerome

:14:27. > :14:33.Garces listening to Alun Wyn Jones. I have a look, yeah, yeah. If I give

:14:34. > :14:45.you a call, response to my call. He is not outside. -- offside. He is

:14:46. > :15:10.not, no. Ben Youngs has a chance to clear the

:15:11. > :15:20.England lines. The scrum shifts, moves under pressure. The referee

:15:21. > :15:24.will order a reset. One Wales move the ball wide, what I don't see,

:15:25. > :15:29.which I see in lots of other attacks, is a lot of players

:15:30. > :15:33.holding, options left and right, to make defenders have doubts about

:15:34. > :15:37.whether ball will go into contact. They are making ground because they

:15:38. > :15:46.are powerful in going forward, but there is little or guile. -- little

:15:47. > :15:56.subtlety or guile. There is no deftness of past, no second phase

:15:57. > :16:04.coming behind the players. -- there is no deftness of pass.

:16:05. > :16:14.Ben Youngs feeds the England side of the scrum. The England scrum holds

:16:15. > :16:19.firm, turns a little bit. Liam Williams gets back to his position.

:16:20. > :16:26.Then he drops back as Ben Youngs prepares to kick. Charged down. An

:16:27. > :16:36.advantage being played. Only a knock-on by Joe Marler. Good player

:16:37. > :16:41.by all the Welsh players, another very good run by Nathan Hughes. Does

:16:42. > :16:47.not give Ben Youngs much option from the base of the ruck but good, good

:16:48. > :16:52.pressure. There is the knock-on.

:16:53. > :17:04.The only difference so far is that England may score a try under

:17:05. > :17:11.pressure. Wales need to get something from this pressure.

:17:12. > :17:21.A quiet word, Rhys Webb to Liam Williams. The motor instructions of

:17:22. > :17:29.Jerome Garces. -- the louder instructions. Can Wales turn

:17:30. > :17:38.pressure into points? Williams can! Wales score! And they take the lead.

:17:39. > :17:44.With just over two minutes to go at the end of the first half.

:17:45. > :17:54.You can see the first difference, they struck the ball.

:17:55. > :18:05.The was in a good line. -- Liam Watts. Initial surge in, angle in

:18:06. > :18:17.towards their England line, kept the England defence straight. That is a

:18:18. > :18:21.great dummy run. Scott Williams is the dummy runner, it opens of the

:18:22. > :18:27.Liam Williams. The conversion is good from Leigh Halfpenny, and Wales

:18:28. > :18:31.are in the lead by 13 points to eight. Straight off the training

:18:32. > :18:38.ground. This is the player. He is held up. What will happen then is

:18:39. > :18:46.that this guy will take it in and he will go in there, go.

:18:47. > :18:52.Cuthbert was the catch just outside his 22.

:18:53. > :18:59.Tipuric with a dummy which does not really get him more than a metre

:19:00. > :19:00.beyond the Wales 22. Outside, Jerome Garces fells Rhys Webb. He will keep

:19:01. > :19:25.it in place. Jack Clifford was forced back and it

:19:26. > :19:33.was ripped off him. England are back in possession.

:19:34. > :19:44.It is all about the second rows. Just if you second left at the end

:19:45. > :19:54.of the first half. -- just a few seconds left.

:19:55. > :20:02.Brilliantly taken, or was it? Liam Williams took it. The first half has

:20:03. > :20:07.gone into overtime. Jerome Garces puts an end to the opening period.

:20:08. > :20:09.It has been 40 minutes of excitement, and at the end of it,

:20:10. > :20:31.Wales lead 13-8. CHEERING

:20:32. > :20:37.STUDIO: All the bluster and hyperbole all week in the leader, it

:20:38. > :20:40.was worth every word, because what a fantastic spectacle.

:20:41. > :20:45.How could you not be enjoying this on a Saturday tea-time. That was Ben

:20:46. > :20:51.Youngs' try, this is Liam Williams' try, he was one of the most

:20:52. > :20:54.threatening players in the first 40 minutes.

:20:55. > :21:01.Dusk has long since settled on the Welsh capital, Wales lead 13-8.

:21:02. > :21:07.Possession 49/51, it has been real ebb and flow, some periods felt like

:21:08. > :21:10.all Wales, other periods England seem to have strangled Wales, but

:21:11. > :21:15.Wales found themselves in the ascendancy at the end. A riveting

:21:16. > :21:18.first 40 minutes, you are happiest at the moment?

:21:19. > :21:24.So far, so good. Everything we expected, full on blood and guts. It

:21:25. > :21:29.has been really intense. The first ten minutes, I thought Wales were on

:21:30. > :21:34.the front of it, then they lost all momentum, then when England made it

:21:35. > :21:39.8-3 I thought it looked onerous, but Wales came back superbly. I thought

:21:40. > :21:42.it would be a rerun of England against France at Twickenham,

:21:43. > :21:50.England were getting into the Welsh 22, the scores own. Wales are

:21:51. > :21:54.inspirational in their play, they have been talking about this new way

:21:55. > :21:57.of playing and it is impressive, they studied together.

:21:58. > :22:02.Wales are very comfortable playing with these pods of three, they

:22:03. > :22:04.struggled with it in the autumn but they look like they have really,

:22:05. > :22:10.really come on and got the hand of how they want to play.

:22:11. > :22:14.As a spectator in your first experience of Wales/ England match

:22:15. > :22:19.in Cardiff, what do you make of it? It is incredible. You don't always

:22:20. > :22:24.notice the noise when you are on the field, to be here is amazing.

:22:25. > :22:28.Wales got off to a physical and positive start? Came out with lots

:22:29. > :22:34.of energy, they are big ball-carriers. They are making a

:22:35. > :22:41.focus on stripping the ball. A big hit from Moriarty and Nathan

:22:42. > :22:44.Hughes, he has grown into the game, in fairness. But if you're not

:22:45. > :22:47.pulling in big hits in the first five or ten minutes of a Wales

:22:48. > :22:56.against England's game, you never will. Wales were holding on for dear

:22:57. > :23:01.life at some stages. Alun Wyn was being an absolute pest. Bad ribs or

:23:02. > :23:09.no, Dan Biggar is playing well. He is answering every question, he is

:23:10. > :23:14.100% fit. He has had a great 40 minutes. We always talk about Italy

:23:15. > :23:17.giving away stupid and necessary penalties, as a leader you have

:23:18. > :23:21.always said you had to cut down on that. Wales allowed England to game

:23:22. > :23:25.entered by giving them opportunities. In a game of rugby,

:23:26. > :23:31.some penalties will be inevitable, but you have to about the silly

:23:32. > :23:36.ones. This was really by Jake Ball. Just after this, Rhys Webb came in

:23:37. > :23:39.from the side, just pointless. The pressure and momentum Wales had just

:23:40. > :23:47.goes straightaway, they were 4-1 down very early. It is unusual for

:23:48. > :23:51.Wales, given the start that they had against Italy, the whole game, five

:23:52. > :23:55.penalties. England had a period of about ten

:23:56. > :23:59.minutes putting phase after phase together, there was almost an

:24:00. > :24:03.inevitability that they would score? It was looking on and is, they were

:24:04. > :24:08.not winning the game, Wales were getting no pressure on the ball. --

:24:09. > :24:15.it was looking onerous. There was no pressure on Ben Youngs. Noel Pace

:24:16. > :24:19.all pressure on the ball whatsoever, Itoje can go through the middle and

:24:20. > :24:23.they had real momentum at this stage. Warburton went for this, a

:24:24. > :24:30.good clean out. This eventually led to the try. You can play how you

:24:31. > :24:35.want when the ball is quick, it is very difficult to defend when the

:24:36. > :24:39.ball is quick. Fantastic player, a great pass by Joseph. Great insight

:24:40. > :24:46.by Daly. We thought occurred that needed to get low and be ready for

:24:47. > :24:50.this. Well spotted by Youngs. You get in that position, you want to

:24:51. > :24:56.score. That was a fantastic pass from Joseph. I thought Daly would

:24:57. > :25:02.get in, but Ben Youngs has got their and it was just poor old Cuthbert,

:25:03. > :25:07.should have been down. Small things that about, Farrell missed a kick.

:25:08. > :25:15.Daily Lawson missed a penalty from the halfway line. You have a

:25:16. > :25:20.penalty, will you kick for goal, touch, take the scrum? Wales decided

:25:21. > :25:24.on two occasions to not take the points, they have halfpenny in their

:25:25. > :25:29.ranks and it backfired on them on both occasions. Both myself and

:25:30. > :25:32.Martyn said we would go for the points, we might be older

:25:33. > :25:36.conservative, but at very least they should have gone for a corner, I

:25:37. > :25:39.thought. You look how excited the English players get, what a big

:25:40. > :25:45.listed gives them. The Welsh walk away with their heads down. -- what

:25:46. > :25:49.a big lift it gives them. Later when they had a scrum in a similar

:25:50. > :25:53.position they scored. The line-out is the same again, 20 metres out,

:25:54. > :25:57.drop the ball and turn it over. Against a good defensive side like

:25:58. > :26:02.England you will get few and far between moments to really attack.

:26:03. > :26:07.They let it slip twice. To counter the fact that England

:26:08. > :26:14.missed five points, Wales spurred six points as well, it has levelled

:26:15. > :26:19.out a bit? You thought they would be hammering away at the England line.

:26:20. > :26:25.Alun Wyn, for all his work he gets in the way of Dan Biggar. This needs

:26:26. > :26:29.to go in front of Biggar. Simple give and take, but he just gets in

:26:30. > :26:35.the way. At that stage you think the momentum is back with England, but

:26:36. > :26:40.England's wishes -- England were sloppy after this. If you put away

:26:41. > :26:43.tries like this it gives you more confidence. The opportunity was

:26:44. > :26:48.there. We thought Ben Youngs might be offside but in slow Mo we have

:26:49. > :26:51.watched it and he is on-site, they get another opportunity. A great

:26:52. > :26:56.debate about whether Liam Williams should play full-back or in the win,

:26:57. > :27:00.when he has the ball in hand he is a devastating runner and this was

:27:01. > :27:03.beautifully worked? He is a talisman at the moment, he gets the ball and

:27:04. > :27:11.something happens. You had to get it to him as much as possible. They

:27:12. > :27:15.held Farrell, Joseph needs to step in. After last week's passive

:27:16. > :27:21.tackling, these are missed tackles, they are not treating the situation.

:27:22. > :27:25.It went for the scrum earlier, did they have a play up their sleeve

:27:26. > :27:29.that they felt they could break England with? When anybody scores a

:27:30. > :27:35.try or gold you look for mistakes in defence, sometimes you have to

:27:36. > :27:41.praise the ingenuity in perfecting a move? -- when anybody scores a try

:27:42. > :27:45.or goal. We had a move that we wanted to record, we felt it was

:27:46. > :27:49.that good. That was as good as it gets, it was smoke and mirrors, most

:27:50. > :27:53.offences would have been tricked. You had two or three other passes

:27:54. > :27:59.you would have made, it did not have to go to Williams. The animation off

:28:00. > :28:07.the ball makes the try. You are pretty happy after Ireland plasma

:28:08. > :28:09.performance in Italy? They are very strong, clinical, none of the

:28:10. > :28:13.inequities of last week, two guys scored hat tricks, they played some

:28:14. > :28:18.great rugby. At times I thought Italy were very poor, which was

:28:19. > :28:22.disappointing. CJ Stander was one of two Irish players to score a

:28:23. > :28:26.hat-trick. Laid back by Healy, Jackson tries to

:28:27. > :28:38.slip through. Paddy welcomes him. Advantage to Ireland. Ads whited

:28:39. > :28:43.goes, CJ Stander for the corner! Try number two for Ireland -- and wide

:28:44. > :28:48.it goes. Still they go, still goes Scannell

:28:49. > :28:54.within ball metres of the line. This CJ Stander once more. He drives and

:28:55. > :29:05.he scores, what a try from CJ Stander.

:29:06. > :29:15.CJ Stander again. Stander, oh, a hat-trick for CJ Stander. Ireland

:29:16. > :29:23.have another try, they are ripping Italy apart. CJ Stander, three tries

:29:24. > :29:28.for Ireland. Craig Gilroy also got a hat-trick,

:29:29. > :29:32.63-10 was the final score, meaning Ireland were the first team last

:29:33. > :29:36.weekend to get a losing bonus point in the RBS Six Nations under the new

:29:37. > :29:40.scoring system, this week they are the first to get a winning bonus

:29:41. > :29:44.point by scoring four tries in that emphatic triumph in Rome.

:29:45. > :29:48.We had a minute's silence before the game and some spontaneous applause

:29:49. > :29:56.to mark one of the great players of rugby, who lost his life this week.

:29:57. > :29:59.We thought we would take a break from discussing this much for a

:30:00. > :30:00.moment to allow Eddie Butler to our fan appreciation of the life of

:30:01. > :30:12.Joost van der Westhuizen. The micro he wore Springbok green

:30:13. > :30:17.light a second skin, the new South Africa was his stage, part of the

:30:18. > :30:25.team that moved the world, that stopped Jonah Lomu, that won the

:30:26. > :30:31.World Cup. He wore green, he stared blue, I that could cut through

:30:32. > :30:37.steel, he was a pin-up, and a tear them down. Controlled, a little bit

:30:38. > :30:44.wild, strong, fast, then we and slowed by motor neurone disease. He

:30:45. > :30:50.was brilliant in his pomp and brash, he was inspirational in his decline.

:30:51. > :30:58.Joost van der Westhuizen, a giant of his time, gone way before his time.

:30:59. > :31:05.Guys, thoughts on Joost, you played against him. I played with him a

:31:06. > :31:08.number of times, worked with him in 2011 when he was first diagnosed

:31:09. > :31:13.with motor neurone disease, and he took on the challenge as strong as

:31:14. > :31:20.he did as a player, and right to the end he was pushing, raising

:31:21. > :31:25.awareness of the disease, and he will be sorely missed. Marc? A

:31:26. > :31:31.phenomenal player, I played against him as well, that performance in the

:31:32. > :31:38.World Cup final in 1995, one of the all-time great performances, really

:31:39. > :31:42.sad. He visited our team hotel in 2014, at the height of his illness,

:31:43. > :31:48.obviously an amazing player and a leader on the field, but more of a

:31:49. > :31:55.leader off of it, he will be a big loss. I am sure the whole South

:31:56. > :32:00.African nation art in mourning, many people watching in South Africa,

:32:01. > :32:04.what has been a fantastic first 40 minutes, and there will be a great

:32:05. > :32:09.audience for the match tomorrow, France against Scotland live from

:32:10. > :32:13.the Stade de France to: 15 on BBC One. What else have we got to tell

:32:14. > :32:19.you about? The Women's Six Nations, regular coverage continues at 11:45

:32:20. > :32:22.tomorrow night, repeated on Monday. There is Rugby Union Weekly, the new

:32:23. > :32:34.podcast available from Monday. There is an awful lot to talk about

:32:35. > :32:38.on the red button forum, the first 40 minutes has been immense, and who

:32:39. > :32:48.knows what the next 40 minutes has in store? It is Wales against

:32:49. > :32:53.England in Cardiff. Wales take an early lead. The Welsh defence still

:32:54. > :33:08.holding out, until now! Wales are within two points. They

:33:09. > :33:14.score! Well, it is one of those of quoted

:33:15. > :33:20.statistics, nine out of ten matches between the main rugby union nations

:33:21. > :33:23.are always within one score at around about the 60 minutes mark,

:33:24. > :33:27.which means the players who are going to come on for the last 20

:33:28. > :33:31.minutes are going to be key in determining the outcome of this

:33:32. > :33:35.match. So there are the two ventures, what is the first thing

:33:36. > :33:43.that strikes you about that, Martyn? Wales have got Faletau back, the

:33:44. > :33:46.back row was going really well, but Sam Davies was a game changer last

:33:47. > :33:58.week. In the forwards, you would have to edge England, but some of

:33:59. > :34:00.those Welsh finishes... The English finishers have been superb, the

:34:01. > :34:08.likes of George Cumming on relatively early, Haskell coming on,

:34:09. > :34:14.giving England the impetus to finish extremely well. We have got

:34:15. > :34:21.explosive English finishers coming on, and if they can execute better,

:34:22. > :34:24.they will score one two tries in this second heart. We have been

:34:25. > :34:29.saying in commentary, both teams have come out to play today, some

:34:30. > :34:35.great running rugby, but as the clock ticks on and the margin is

:34:36. > :34:41.tied, the temptation is to be conservative and pragmatic. Who wins

:34:42. > :34:45.on that basis? It is hard to tell, you have got to avoid that

:34:46. > :34:49.temptation, that is where France lost last week against England, they

:34:50. > :34:53.started kicking to touch and playing safely. You have to avoid that

:34:54. > :34:57.temptation, you have to keep playing, the more the pressure comes

:34:58. > :35:04.on, and you have to maintain the momentum when guys come off the

:35:05. > :35:09.bench. OK, well, 13-8 at the moment, just one score in it, great to be

:35:10. > :35:14.able to say, at a first 40 minutes, that after all the build-up to such

:35:15. > :35:17.a moment as event, it has lived up to the billing. Let's hope the

:35:18. > :35:18.second half is every bit as engrossing, back to Eddie and the

:35:19. > :35:30.team. George Ford starts the second half.

:35:31. > :35:33.England trailing by five, Alex Cuthbert on the ball, driven back

:35:34. > :35:51.into his 22 by Maro Itoje. Nathan Hughes, waiting for just such

:35:52. > :36:12.a kick. Courtney Lawes. Turnover, Justin Tipuric has it,

:36:13. > :36:30.advantage Wales. Elliot Daly feeds George Ford,

:36:31. > :36:38.England back in numbers. Excellent follow-up tackle by Rhys Webb, still

:36:39. > :36:48.England, though. Ken Owens did well to stop the England flyer.

:36:49. > :36:55.Oh, brilliantly manufactured, that kick by Dan Biggar. Off the outside

:36:56. > :37:01.of the boot, that is tremendous, you can see the way the ball was

:37:02. > :37:09.spinning. That is a beautiful kick. Moriarty, the shot on Farrell, there

:37:10. > :37:20.was a few complaints. We might see it here. In we go, that is late.

:37:21. > :37:25.Cannot help it, that is late. It is a great tackle - if it was a bit

:37:26. > :37:30.earlier. The referee is not going to go to the TMO, he thinks that is

:37:31. > :37:34.fine. Didn't complain. That is what I like about some of these players,

:37:35. > :37:41.he absolutely got nailed, and he didn't moan at all. He is having a

:37:42. > :37:48.wry smile now. A smile and a cough and off he goes. I have seen their

:37:49. > :37:52.dads have the same tussle, Farrell and Moriarty! Courtney Lawes with

:37:53. > :38:02.the catch and the England eight putting a drive to issue a reminder,

:38:03. > :38:10.a statement of authority. They will do well to scrape this back, though.

:38:11. > :38:17.Dan Biggar can't take it, a rare misjudgment by Dan Biggar in the air

:38:18. > :38:37.- play on, says the referee, though. Good counter-rucking by Itoje. Rhys

:38:38. > :38:38.Webb has knocked it on. Itoje did well, didn't he, Eddie Cue Mackie

:38:39. > :39:01.saw the ball on the floor. There is the knock-on. Oh! That is

:39:02. > :39:05.well laid! I would love to see at full speed. I still think it is

:39:06. > :39:24.late. He didn't miss, did he?! The strike by Dylan Hartley, Nathan

:39:25. > :39:39.Hughes picks up. Dan Biggar goes for the ripping of

:39:40. > :39:41.the ball, but it has been knocked on. Play on, says the referee.

:39:42. > :40:03.Courtney Lawes delivers the ball. Joseph was not quite so involved in

:40:04. > :40:30.the first. Halfpenny towards Ford. Scott Williams with the knock-on,

:40:31. > :40:34.deliberate. Just a knock-on. Knock-on advantage. That is a fair

:40:35. > :40:46.tackle by Moriarty! As the game breaks out, a very fluid

:40:47. > :40:54.second half. Turnover Wales, Moriarty, Ken Owens!

:40:55. > :41:02.Out. Rob Evans sends it long, Jonathan Davies. Davies inside

:41:03. > :41:11.Courtney Lawes, outside to Leigh Halfpenny. Beautiful by Rhys Webb!

:41:12. > :41:18.Throne passed to Dan Biggar, but Wales showing what they can do. What

:41:19. > :41:23.will this game turn into? Great play by both sides, good counterattacking

:41:24. > :41:30.by Wales. Unfortunately, the ball went forward. Brilliant games so

:41:31. > :41:41.far, great width on the ball, taking it in. The turnover there, Sam

:41:42. > :41:48.Warburton. England are keeping the ball high, and they cannot get the

:41:49. > :41:57.ball to the ground. This is a great pick-up, one-handed. But he couldn't

:41:58. > :42:03.get it flat. Jonathan Davies in full flight inside, then looks back out,

:42:04. > :42:05.Leigh Halfpenny and support. Advantage being played there, the

:42:06. > :42:13.first knock-on, then the blatant forward pass. But it has potential

:42:14. > :42:16.now. Ben Youngs will feed the scrum, that is the England 22. Good

:42:17. > :42:27.scrummage, England. Liam Williams, has he...? Has it

:42:28. > :42:33.gone into the crowd? We will have a slight pause. I did ask you in the

:42:34. > :42:37.first couple of minutes, we have seen different tactics, where they

:42:38. > :42:42.kick into touch then set their defence, England. Wales preferred to

:42:43. > :42:47.counterattack. They deliberately keep the ball on the field. Jamie

:42:48. > :42:48.George comes on for the England captain, Dylan Hartley, 46 minutes

:42:49. > :43:03.on the clock. Eddie Jones will be worried at the

:43:04. > :43:13.moment. Ken Owens, a bit of confusion, Justin Tipuric.

:43:14. > :43:26.Oh, to have a conversation at the bottom of a ruck!

:43:27. > :43:39.Outside his 22, the follow-up tackle by Williams, Dan Biggar does well,

:43:40. > :43:40.just arriving to do his little bit. Nathan Hughes, Moriarty, monster

:43:41. > :44:03.tackle! High tackle by George Ford, Wales

:44:04. > :44:05.have an advantage, one of the stars of the moment, Ross Moriarty. That

:44:06. > :44:18.is Rhys Webb at the bottom. He knows the penalty is there. Back

:44:19. > :44:23.they go, there he is, number eight for Wales, Ross Moriarty. Well, he

:44:24. > :44:30.made one late one, but ever since then his tackling has been

:44:31. > :44:33.extraordinary. It has been tremendous, yeah, high tackle. If

:44:34. > :44:38.you run someone straight into Moriarty, he is going to do that, he

:44:39. > :44:44.has the capability, the technique. England need to be cuter, especially

:44:45. > :44:50.with Hughes. He has to use a dummy occasionally, someone to run off

:44:51. > :44:55.him. People will line you up and hit you, and that is what Moriarty is

:44:56. > :44:56.doing - he is doing his job and doing it very well. England need

:44:57. > :45:25.more subtlety. The home of Welsh rugby in full cry

:45:26. > :45:31.as Dan Biggar looks towards the far corner. The 22 will do just fine for

:45:32. > :45:35.Wales. England start to ring the changes, the captain has gone, Jamie

:45:36. > :45:45.George zone, James Haskell is no one. The substitutes have come on a

:45:46. > :45:51.lot quicker this week. -- Jamie George is on, James Haskell is now

:45:52. > :45:57.on. The try scorer Liam Williams twisted

:45:58. > :46:04.and turned undelivered for Webb. -- and delivered for Webb.

:46:05. > :46:14.Wales tried to get the passes away. They can't.

:46:15. > :46:17.All a bit rushed and frantic. Wants one player passes the ball in a

:46:18. > :46:21.situation where they are under pressure, it gets excessively worse.

:46:22. > :46:26.You don't improve a bad ball by putting it back where some people

:46:27. > :46:31.take the opportunity. Just keep up with the ball and carry it forward.

:46:32. > :46:35.Eddie Jones has made his changes early, it is quite apparent that

:46:36. > :46:40.they are needed. Wales are on top at the moment. They started the second

:46:41. > :46:42.half better than England, they just about deserved the lead going in and

:46:43. > :46:52.they definitely deserve the lead at the moment.

:46:53. > :46:59.Mike Brown this time, his left boot now required.

:47:00. > :47:06.That was a mistake. He was in two minds. If you watch Rhys Webb

:47:07. > :47:12.convince himself to go the wrong way from the scrum defensively, then he

:47:13. > :47:18.thinks it is on the run. Rhys Webb readjusts and tries to get out of

:47:19. > :47:26.it. He then kicks it. He goes, goes and kicks and then he slices that

:47:27. > :47:32.off his left foot. In two minds. Mike Brown will go back to and watch

:47:33. > :47:39.this four man line-up Wales. -- will go back to full-back.

:47:40. > :47:47.England rush, Murray are two drives, wriggles, back on his feet. Play on,

:47:48. > :47:50.says the referee. A little bit of off the ball going on, Jamie George

:47:51. > :48:36.and Alun Wyn Jones. A little gap, Webb sensed.

:48:37. > :49:01.But direct approach was a test of Dan Biggar's ribs. -- that direct

:49:02. > :49:07.approach. What might have been for Jonathan

:49:08. > :49:17.Davies, if he had clung on. It was a drill to pass. We saw the defence

:49:18. > :49:25.step in. Just watch this. Daly just ball watching.

:49:26. > :49:33.At the moment, the England back row are being soundly beaten by their

:49:34. > :49:39.Welsh counterparts. Changes in the Welsh front row.

:49:40. > :49:53.Samson Lee comes on, Nicky Smith comes on, the props are changed.

:49:54. > :50:05.That is a big call. Taulupe Faletau is back in international rugby. It

:50:06. > :50:12.is a big call. The all tackling Ross Moriarty is going off. As a number

:50:13. > :50:16.eight, he has played so well. Faletau is world-class. We are about

:50:17. > :50:28.to find out. England have a stern drive under

:50:29. > :50:35.penalty advantage. -- and the penalty advantage.

:50:36. > :50:54.Wales have been in the ascendancy for 13 minutes, not recorded a

:50:55. > :51:01.score. At some point England will have a period when they put pressure

:51:02. > :51:07.on Wales. Wales really need to register points when they are on

:51:08. > :51:08.top. Farrell took the kick, England are in the Welsh half. They have not

:51:09. > :51:18.been here much in the second period. Such an absorbing test. A brilliant

:51:19. > :51:28.Test match. Sam Warburton was the chief tackler

:51:29. > :51:43.on the Welsh side. Being an drive from the line-out

:51:44. > :51:56.seems to be gathering strength. -- the England drive from.

:51:57. > :52:00.Faletau made his first tackle of the game. More to be made, solid

:52:01. > :52:12.tackles. Loose turnover ball, illegally won

:52:13. > :52:24.by Wales. In from the side. In these situations in the first

:52:25. > :52:45.half, Wales did not go for points. Well if this is converted, and it

:52:46. > :52:48.should be, because it is relatively straightforward, it will be the

:52:49. > :52:51.first time England have really got into the Welsh half in the second

:52:52. > :53:24.half of this game, and they will score points.

:53:25. > :53:35.Owen Farrell... Scores the penalty for England. Having been on the back

:53:36. > :53:43.of that for 15 minutes, England now narrowed the gap. -- having been on

:53:44. > :53:55.the back foot for 15 minutes. Wales 13, England 11.

:53:56. > :54:07.Dan Biggar, the familiar split of the forwards. High towards Mike

:54:08. > :54:09.Brown. Faletau tackled Brown inside the

:54:10. > :54:45.England 22, turnover ball for Wales. It is a ruck ball, and awakens

:54:46. > :54:53.Jonathan Davies. -- and a way comes. No covering the corner, but it is

:54:54. > :55:02.all Wales again for the moment. Samsung, Lee, Faletau.

:55:03. > :55:50.Faletau minded by Haskell, Wales have to regroup a yard further back.

:55:51. > :56:14.Tipuric had to lift Nathan Hughes out of the way. Faletau spins.

:56:15. > :56:29.The crowd are in full voice. A long pass to Leigh Halfpenny from Biggar.

:56:30. > :57:05.Five metre short. Penalty advantage to Wales. No free play, referee has

:57:06. > :57:08.blasted the whistle. It is absolutely ferocious. The

:57:09. > :57:15.defences amends. The intensity of the attack.

:57:16. > :57:22.Over 20 phases, Wales stayed patient. Will they ended with three

:57:23. > :57:28.points? Maybe they should have had more.

:57:29. > :57:39.James Haskell still got hold of the ball. He knows exactly what he is

:57:40. > :57:52.doing. That was all started a long time ago by a really callous

:57:53. > :57:54.restart. Itoje really callous. -- really callous. Brown was the guilty

:57:55. > :58:08.party. Jonathan Davies, was that an

:58:09. > :58:15.advantage? It was in his best Clermont French.

:58:16. > :58:21.Owen said that the sideline. His day is done, another good game by the

:58:22. > :58:25.barge hooker. Halfpenny kicked the penalty, Wales

:58:26. > :58:40.16-11, the margin back to five points.

:58:41. > :58:48.George Ford, he has split his forwards. James Haskell on the far

:58:49. > :58:54.side. Well-placed. It fell to Jake Ball.

:58:55. > :59:26.Awakens Nathan Hughes. Faletau reacted first. -- away comes Nathan

:59:27. > :59:32.Hughes. Cole Sante Fed to George Ford. Ford delivers.

:59:33. > :59:38.Jamie George arrived at pace, Tipuric made the tackle. That was

:59:39. > :59:45.tremendous defence. Here they come again.

:59:46. > :00:03.Nicky Smith is involved again on the defensive side.

:00:04. > :00:09.Courtney Lawes was out in the centre. Scott Williams tried to

:00:10. > :00:14.strip the ball off him. An echo of games past.

:00:15. > :00:46.Brilliantly picked up by Farrell. Jack Noel. It is George again, he

:00:47. > :01:00.has made an impact, the England hooker. Forward to Haskell, it is

:01:01. > :01:05.out, he can play the ball. Youngs, Nowell, the tackle by Nicky Smith.

:01:06. > :01:11.Joe Launchbury, Scott Williams, Alun Wyn Jones holds up, they have to let

:01:12. > :01:31.him go. Change of direction, Mike Brown. He

:01:32. > :01:36.loses the ball again. The referee has the whistle to his mouth, but he

:01:37. > :01:45.is not sure. He is not sure, he says. England are a foot short. They

:01:46. > :01:52.drive through the forwards, Youngs has to go digging for it. They have

:01:53. > :02:06.men over on the right. Interception! Dan Biggar! Biggar chased down, Lee

:02:07. > :02:13.Williams outside him! Daly, what footballing skills by Daly! Oh, what

:02:14. > :02:21.a game! Dan Biggar guest, and he guessed right. Do you know what?

:02:22. > :02:23.That came from England not recognising that they had players

:02:24. > :02:29.over on the right, they should have gone wide earlier. But that doesn't

:02:30. > :02:37.take away from the anticipation of Biggar. They had numbers on the

:02:38. > :02:45.right-hand side, it is a brilliant read, just watch! There he goes come

:02:46. > :02:50.he comes off the line quickly. On the outside, England would score. He

:02:51. > :02:56.is never going to get there, he puts a kick win, Daly is always going to

:02:57. > :03:00.win it, turning defence into attack - brilliant, brilliant read! When

:03:01. > :03:07.you look back, I don't know how the game will end, but that may well be

:03:08. > :03:15.the decisive contribution. Daly did well to cover him. Didn't he just!

:03:16. > :03:21.64 minutes gone, Daly made 70 metres back. It has been a very tight match

:03:22. > :03:24.all the way through, now Wales are in an attacking position. Should

:03:25. > :03:30.they go for the three points and get that little gap between them? Well,

:03:31. > :03:30.it is only a line-out for the moment, to be taken by Scott

:03:31. > :03:42.Baldwin. We have more changes, Ben Te'o is on

:03:43. > :03:46.in the centre for England, try scorer, matchwinner against France.

:03:47. > :03:52.Danny Care is at scrum-half for Ben Youngs. Meanwhile, Scott Baldwin to

:03:53. > :03:57.throw for Wales. Oh, it is a raggedy old line-up. Gareth Davies is on for

:03:58. > :04:05.Wales at scrum-half. And not for the first time in this game, a set piece

:04:06. > :04:10.goes wrong. The call was not communicated or misunderstood,

:04:11. > :04:15.no-one got off the ground. If you would in eight, that would have been

:04:16. > :04:18.frustrating. After the pressure they have been under, they want to secure

:04:19. > :04:26.the line-out, have a little momentum back for themselves. That could have

:04:27. > :04:34.created a full set of phases. 16-11, England back on their 22, but with

:04:35. > :04:45.the relative comfort of the feed into the scrum. Joe Marler against

:04:46. > :04:53.Samson Lee. They have met before. Yeah, the less said about that, the

:04:54. > :05:10.better, probably! Hello, Samson! Hello, Joe!

:05:11. > :05:24.Care feeds, the ball goes out, Wales spin the scrum illegally, they have

:05:25. > :05:28.a relieving penalty. You have got to be squeaky clean now, because

:05:29. > :05:37.anything you do, the ball goes out. The sad thing is, England will now

:05:38. > :05:39.have possession in Wales' halve. Sad if you are Welsh, yeah! All right!

:05:40. > :05:55.Farrell made good ground. Jamie George finds Courtney Lawes

:05:56. > :06:03.with Sam Warburton putting pressure on, England setup the maul, danger

:06:04. > :06:14.for Wales, it is a mighty maul, James Haskell comes in and joins it.

:06:15. > :06:32.Care comes away with it. Ben Te'o, Scott Williams.

:06:33. > :06:43.Nicky Smith makes the tackle - play on, says the referee.

:06:44. > :06:56.Lawes again, Samson Lee the tackle this time. James Haskell tramples

:06:57. > :07:01.the referee! Ben Te'o going nowhere. LAUGHTER

:07:02. > :07:10.Warburton, over the ball, cannot work the turnover. Care comes away

:07:11. > :07:17.with it, Ford, to George, the hooker.

:07:18. > :07:26.Itoje outside, Nowell cuts in the field.

:07:27. > :07:39.Courtney Lawes is almost permanently stationed in the middle of the

:07:40. > :07:44.field. Ford, long, Farrell, George. The ball has been stripped clear,

:07:45. > :07:50.England come away with it yet again, but Wales offside, original penalty.

:07:51. > :08:02.Take the points. Switch on, switch on, everyone. Pack and defence.

:08:03. > :08:07.Nathan Hughes. I have to say, the referee has had a very good game,

:08:08. > :08:08.very good game. Virtually anonymous, he has got virtually everything

:08:09. > :08:25.right. Owen Farrell is going for the posts.

:08:26. > :08:34.I tackle, Samson Lee. It is common sense by the referee. It is one of

:08:35. > :08:46.them accidentals, it is a penalty, nothing else.

:08:47. > :08:52.I wonder, at the end of the game, how significant the five points that

:08:53. > :08:53.England have missed with the boot could be, could be highly

:08:54. > :09:06.significant. Ten minutes to go before we have

:09:07. > :09:11.that debate. I am sure there are more twists and turns to come. That

:09:12. > :09:14.is dead straight, Owen Farrell narrows the gap. Wales 16, England

:09:15. > :09:28.14. Mullan comes into the England throat

:09:29. > :09:38.row, off goes Joe Marler. There is the points scorer. -- front row.

:09:39. > :09:48.Jonny May comes on, Roberts on the other side is on for Wales, going

:09:49. > :09:52.across the ten metre line now. Scott Williams is leaving the field. The

:09:53. > :10:13.clock is not running, here we go. He has had a good game. Scott

:10:14. > :10:21.Williams has had a good game. Te'o, Tipuric tries to hold him up.

:10:22. > :10:36.Care, out of play, not much ground gained but set pieces, I don't

:10:37. > :10:40.suppose England will mind them too much. Wales have a conference about

:10:41. > :10:46.what they are going to do, Clyde Sinckler is on into the England

:10:47. > :10:54.front row. I am sure Jamie Roberts is looking forward to running down

:10:55. > :10:55.George Ford's channel. Certain amount of pressure on Baldwin,

:10:56. > :11:24.Warburton wins it. Jerome Garces is involved in the

:11:25. > :11:29.action! Nicky Smith. He has carried well, Jake Ball, hasn't he? Change

:11:30. > :11:39.of direction, Biggar, Roberts, Cuthbert. Nicky Smith glides away

:11:40. > :11:55.from Kyle Sinckler. Warburton arrives quickly, Dan

:11:56. > :12:06.Biggar, Joe Launchbury put a good tackle in.

:12:07. > :12:17.A slight pause, Gareth Davies organises the direction of play.

:12:18. > :12:18.Still good line speed from the English defence. Here goes Samson

:12:19. > :12:30.Lee, the prop. Cuthbert loses the ball, England

:12:31. > :12:34.through George Ford with a big boot to it, Justin Tipuric goes back, but

:12:35. > :12:41.first it is going to be Leigh Halfpenny, and he dives down for the

:12:42. > :12:47.22. England desperately wanted that ball to stay in, but they will

:12:48. > :12:57.receive the kick off, or the restart from the 22. Still big collisions.

:12:58. > :13:02.Wales have taken four minutes off the clock. When you look back at

:13:03. > :13:07.this game, and you watch the contribution, Justin Tipuric has

:13:08. > :13:14.been immense. I think Launchbury is immense for England, Biggar has had

:13:15. > :13:20.a huge game. Biggar, as long as he can down the field, and Nathan

:13:21. > :13:24.Hughes. Sam Warburton! He has had an immense game too! The tackle, the

:13:25. > :13:30.tackles all day! Now, England through Ben Te'o, a glimpse of the

:13:31. > :13:33.overlap sort of vanished, but England still have it through

:13:34. > :13:37.Launchbury, Jonathan Davies tackles him.

:13:38. > :13:45.Liam Williams over the ball, tries to counter-ruck.

:13:46. > :13:55.Sam Warburton is carrying an injury, just watch. Farrell, Te'o, Te'o

:13:56. > :14:01.still going, inside him is Danny Care, who cuts back. Great tackle!

:14:02. > :14:07.Alex Cuthbert with the all-important tackle for Wales. Try saving tackle.

:14:08. > :14:16.England in the Wales 22, Launchbury tackled by Faletau.

:14:17. > :14:27.It is going to be Jonny May, he cannot get there! Wales cannot get

:14:28. > :14:32.him into touch, Itoje delivers. Sinckler driven back, Wales saw the

:14:33. > :14:44.ball go loose, Liam Williams has turned it over! The biggest roar of

:14:45. > :14:48.the day as possession goes from England to Wales. Alun Wyn Jones,

:14:49. > :14:53.Wales in no rush, but at some stage they are going to have to clear

:14:54. > :14:54.their lines. Jonathan Davies, straight down the field towards

:14:55. > :15:10.George Ford. Back England! Elliot Daly for England! Scores!

:15:11. > :15:21.England take the lead with foreign to half minutes to go! -- with four

:15:22. > :15:28.and a half minutes to go. They have been made to pay this time. He can't

:15:29. > :15:35.believe it. You've got to clear the lines. You've got to kick it into

:15:36. > :15:40.touch. They are kicking midfield. Just watch it come across. Alex

:15:41. > :15:50.Cuthbert shows Daly the outside. He's got to make the tackle. It is a

:15:51. > :15:59.great finish by Elliot Daly. That had to go across the touchline. If

:16:00. > :16:03.you're going to keep the ball in play, you need to have your chasers.

:16:04. > :16:11.It has to go off the field just to give you time to recoup and recover.

:16:12. > :16:17.That was a big kick. If this goes over, Wales have to score a try to

:16:18. > :16:25.draw. Owen Farrell, to extend England's's

:16:26. > :16:52.lead. Brilliant. Brilliant kick. England

:16:53. > :16:54.five points ahead, Wales have to score a try. Cory Hill comes off the

:16:55. > :17:14.Wales bench. Two and a half minutes to go. Dan

:17:15. > :17:19.Biggar, one for the forwards to chase. Up goes the outstanding Joe

:17:20. > :17:25.Launchbury. Wilson and the ball through Jake Ball, who has been just

:17:26. > :17:31.as industrious. -- Wales win the ball through Jake Ball.

:17:32. > :18:07.Gareth Davies is the new player on the field.

:18:08. > :18:32.Farrell did well against the proper. -- proper macro.

:18:33. > :18:49.The try will level the scores. Penalty to England. Kyle Sinckler

:18:50. > :18:54.has won them the penalty, he might have won them the match. We had to

:18:55. > :18:59.find out who is the man of the match. Have been some outstanding

:19:00. > :19:03.contributions today, Itoje has played well, Tipuric, Moriarty, Dan

:19:04. > :19:07.Biggar, but head and shoulders above everyone else for me has been the

:19:08. > :19:14.England second-round Joe Launchbury. He has been amends, carrying,

:19:15. > :19:21.kicking, just brilliant performance. -- has been the England second royal

:19:22. > :19:26.Joe Launchbury. He has been amends. There is time for England, through

:19:27. > :19:38.Jamie George, to put it into the line-out. Nobody is rushing in white

:19:39. > :19:48.towards this line-out. Amazing statistics, 8-1 turnovers to Wales.

:19:49. > :19:55.Danny Care. It has been an outstanding game of rugby. Eddie

:19:56. > :20:02.Jones' team remain unbeaten. 15 games go to 16 games. England have

:20:03. > :20:06.beaten Wales at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff. Wales 16,

:20:07. > :20:11.England 21. It shows again that if you do not put this England side

:20:12. > :20:14.away, if you are on top, they will make you pay. They have done it

:20:15. > :20:22.again, as played for large parts of this game but when it came down to

:20:23. > :20:29.taking the opportunity, they created from a poor Welsh kick and found a

:20:30. > :20:36.way to win it again. Te'o did well when he came on. They looked

:20:37. > :20:42.threatening. They looks very, very dangerous. When the opportunity

:20:43. > :20:46.came, they took it. The difference was they were so clinical in the

:20:47. > :20:51.opportunities they had. Wales had a lot of possession and territory, a

:20:52. > :21:00.brilliant try in the first half, but unfortunately they could not turn

:21:01. > :21:05.that into points. STUDIO: And absolutely spellbinding spectacle,

:21:06. > :21:09.it really was. It lived up to all the pre-match billing. All the joy

:21:10. > :21:12.for England and the disappointment for Wales, for the neutral it was

:21:13. > :21:19.just a riveting match. This is the man of the match.

:21:20. > :21:23.Is released the overriding emotion? Certainly release, we knew how tough

:21:24. > :21:29.the task would be coming here, delighted with the results. There

:21:30. > :21:33.was never more than five points in what was a magnificent Test match.

:21:34. > :21:39.What was it like to be part of it? Pretty quick, very physical. We got

:21:40. > :21:43.what we expected coming here, it is always great to play in this stadium

:21:44. > :21:47.but this result is unbelievable. It is the 16th win on the bounce for

:21:48. > :21:52.England, what made the ultimate difference in this tight contest? We

:21:53. > :21:57.addressed issues at half-time and controlled the field a bit better in

:21:58. > :22:02.the second half. Good parts of our game, but lots to improve on. You

:22:03. > :22:08.are the man of the match, you can wear your medal with pride. Well

:22:09. > :22:14.done. After the two matches, England are

:22:15. > :22:19.on top. Ireland, despite having only won one game, had six because of the

:22:20. > :22:24.bonus point victory for so many tries in the 63-10 demolition of

:22:25. > :22:28.Italy in Rome. Wales got a losing bonus point because there was less

:22:29. > :22:31.than seven points in it at the end. Jeremy, almost a carbon copy of

:22:32. > :22:35.Twickenham last week in the sense that England were behind that there

:22:36. > :22:45.was always the suspicion they would find a way through to win it? Carbon

:22:46. > :22:51.copy in the impact that Te'o had when he came on, it gave England the

:22:52. > :22:54.impetus. The England captain is now with Sagna.

:22:55. > :22:58.You left it really late, with five minutes to go before Elliot Daly got

:22:59. > :23:06.the match-winning try, did you really still believe? Yes. We showed

:23:07. > :23:11.good examples of what we can do today. I would prefer that we

:23:12. > :23:17.wrapped up earlier than that but it shows great character from the team.

:23:18. > :23:20.The finishers came on, added loads, showed great composure and there are

:23:21. > :23:24.parts of that game that we have to look at and get better, it was self

:23:25. > :23:29.enforced pressure a lot of the time, not being able to get out of the

:23:30. > :23:36.half. It is something we have to learn from. We will take that. I bet

:23:37. > :23:38.you will. Wales pushed England to the limits, what does it say about

:23:39. > :23:45.this team under Eddie Jones that they still got to the line?

:23:46. > :23:51.Unbelievable character, they believe they will play for a full 80 or 81

:23:52. > :23:53.minutes if need be. Full credit to Wales, and unbelievable challenge, a

:23:54. > :23:58.hell of a side. We knew that they would be there and from minute one

:23:59. > :24:03.to 80 they showed how physical they were. Hell of a Test match. Were you

:24:04. > :24:11.a little disappointed to come off as early as you did? I want to play as

:24:12. > :24:14.long as possible, but I'm sure the substitution was of the team, it

:24:15. > :24:30.comes from AND I HAD TO DEAL WITH IT. IF IT IS FOR THE TEAM, THAT IS

:24:31. > :24:33.THE MAIN THING. Can you begin to express disappointment? Hopefully we

:24:34. > :24:39.answered some of the doubters, ultimately probably did not. I said

:24:40. > :24:43.to Joe Launchbury there were never more than five points in it through

:24:44. > :24:46.the entire Test match, did you believe you could get it over the

:24:47. > :24:50.line? I think that was the difference in the end, so I think

:24:51. > :24:56.there was. We had a good score before the half, considering the

:24:57. > :25:01.pressure we were under, but ultimately we did not maintain that

:25:02. > :25:05.for the second half. How frustrating as it when clearly Wales are trying

:25:06. > :25:10.to evolve, we saw them playing a different way today, but you still

:25:11. > :25:17.could not get the victory? You say that with an air of negativity, we

:25:18. > :25:23.are disappointed with the result but we have changed. The performance was

:25:24. > :25:28.that the 76 minutes. Unfortunately those four minutes eluded us. It has

:25:29. > :25:32.a gym Test match, hard lines. Thank you. We saw several close of

:25:33. > :25:40.the Dan Biggar, what a fantastic match he had. You can see the facts

:25:41. > :25:44.and figures, the possession was basically 50/50 and it was what you

:25:45. > :25:49.did with it in those key moments, if you kicked it away at the right

:25:50. > :25:53.moment or the wrong moment. The off-loads the turnovers. The

:25:54. > :25:57.turnovers, 8-2, that kept Wales in the match at certain points.

:25:58. > :26:03.Tiny margins make the difference between winning and losing,

:26:04. > :26:07.ultimately. At this level you have to take your opportunities. I think,

:26:08. > :26:13.in a way, the emotive tackles Wales put in was probably 30 or 40% more

:26:14. > :26:18.than England -- the amount of tackles. When they needed to be

:26:19. > :26:22.clinical, they were more tired than England. England, from the

:26:23. > :26:27.experience of 16 wins in a row, they know they have the beating of a

:26:28. > :26:31.side, they just have to get in the right position. The more

:26:32. > :26:35.opportunities they create, they will finish one. At the end they did,

:26:36. > :26:41.albeit a bit fortuitous from a miss kick to touch. Pharrell got them to

:26:42. > :26:47.within a potential penalty drop goal of victory, which put some pressure

:26:48. > :26:53.on the back foot. Wales and had this opportunity to clear the ball and

:26:54. > :26:58.choose to not put it out. Was that a conscious decision? The policy was

:26:59. > :27:03.for Wales to keep the ball. This, they just needed patients, they

:27:04. > :27:06.needed to get Dan Biggar back in the slots, they needed to go one more

:27:07. > :27:13.rock. Biggar, the forwards need to take that up one more time, he gets

:27:14. > :27:22.back. John Davies, he is putting it in touch. From here, great vision.

:27:23. > :27:27.Look at this pass. Two defenders, it wizards into Daly, and we know how

:27:28. > :27:32.much pace he has, he takes on Cuthbert makes it. It was earlier in

:27:33. > :27:37.the game, look at the amount of players. It will be very hard for

:27:38. > :27:45.them to fill the field, and they are exhausted, they have just offended

:27:46. > :27:49.their try line. -- just defended their try line. Coming back about

:27:50. > :27:55.ten minutes before that, Wales have a line-out, they will apply more

:27:56. > :27:59.pressure. A botched throw, botched corner from Scott Baldwin. Wales

:28:00. > :28:05.will be kicking themselves. Traditionally those of the sorts of

:28:06. > :28:10.games that they win. You have to give huge credit to England, they

:28:11. > :28:13.kept going and going. You can pinpoint half a dozen

:28:14. > :28:18.moments when the game could have turned on its axis but did not. You

:28:19. > :28:22.mentioned the line-out, we can see that now. This is just after a

:28:23. > :28:29.brilliant intercept by Biggar. Elliot Daly has to put it out.

:28:30. > :28:35.Brilliant attacking opportunity, then this happens. Turnover year,

:28:36. > :28:44.crooked line-out, a scrum. England get a penalty. England kick this 40

:28:45. > :28:48.metres down the field. They maul, two minutes later it is a high

:28:49. > :28:52.tackle against Wales. They had opportunities, just not the killer

:28:53. > :28:56.instinct. I suppose that comes with confidence. England on the back of

:28:57. > :29:00.15 wins had the killer instinct, Wales probably not in the same

:29:01. > :29:02.mental frame. We will shows or missed

:29:03. > :29:07.opportunities from Wales, but the fact they played with so much more

:29:08. > :29:09.energy and intensity, for all the disappointment, they will be

:29:10. > :29:16.enormously encouraged the performance? Utility I mean? It was

:29:17. > :29:21.an incredible Test match, it was probably the best Wales have played

:29:22. > :29:28.in three or four years. Dan Biggar, Moriarty. Miles forward, but an

:29:29. > :29:32.opportunity. You can see there is a loosehead prop within a 1050 metre

:29:33. > :29:39.pass, which we have not seen for a good while, we just need to be a bit

:29:40. > :29:44.more clinical. The good thing for England, they did not play a poor

:29:45. > :29:50.Wales side away from home, Wales played fantastic rugby, we were very

:29:51. > :29:54.impressed. England have beaten an excellent side playing well. A great

:29:55. > :30:00.pass across Elliot Daly's phase, from wrangle Jonathan Davies had a

:30:01. > :30:03.great chance to score. Full credit to England, to come away from home

:30:04. > :30:05.and play a side close to their best and beat them, great achievement. Is

:30:06. > :30:15.a happy man! You looked a cool customer, but what

:30:16. > :30:19.were you thinking with five minutes to go? Looks can be deceiving! I

:30:20. > :30:24.always thought we could still win the game, I thought, second-half, we

:30:25. > :30:28.got our defence intensity back, and we just needed to get some more

:30:29. > :30:32.ball. We didn't have much ball apart from the first 20 minutes, we did a

:30:33. > :30:37.hell of a lot of defence. If you could bottle the ingredient that got

:30:38. > :30:41.England over the line, as against France, what is it? I think it is

:30:42. > :30:45.great, the players believe we can be the best team in the world, and you

:30:46. > :30:51.have to win those games when you are not absolutely at your best, and you

:30:52. > :30:55.come up against an opposition that is playing well, and we did that

:30:56. > :31:01.today. Matchwinner Elliot Daly, the red card in the autumn, how pleased

:31:02. > :31:04.were you for him today? Well, he is a lovely player, we are not sure

:31:05. > :31:10.what his best position is, but he is handy on the wing, his finish today

:31:11. > :31:16.was absolutely first class. Your first experience of Cardiff with

:31:17. > :31:20.England, I think you will be mightily relieved, but what a Test

:31:21. > :31:25.match! What a great atmosphere! You know, that is a proper Test match,

:31:26. > :31:30.proper Test match crowd, plenty of stick from the supporters, it is

:31:31. > :31:35.fantastic. What did you learn about England today in real adversity, up

:31:36. > :31:39.against this Wales team, because they were magnificent? A lot of

:31:40. > :31:43.credit to them, they defended really well, and you have to look at the

:31:44. > :31:48.facts. We had five starting players out, so it shows the depth of our

:31:49. > :31:52.squad, and it shows that our young players are developing, Clifford

:31:53. > :31:58.only playing his second start, did well for us, Nathan Hughes, fourth

:31:59. > :32:02.or fifth Test match, Ben Te'o hitting the mark. Back-to-back games

:32:03. > :32:06.coming up now at Twickenham, starting with Italy, who have

:32:07. > :32:11.struggled so far in this championship. England are well

:32:12. > :32:15.placed, would you say? Well, we are looking forward to a week's training

:32:16. > :32:18.in central London next week, we will train hard and do a few different

:32:19. > :32:23.things with the boys, we will be right for the week's preparation for

:32:24. > :32:28.Italy, it is a big game, we want to put them to the cleaners. I don't

:32:29. > :32:37.doubt it! Thank you, well done. In the end, the roof was a complete

:32:38. > :32:42.irrelevance! England are such a hard team to beat now, why is that? I

:32:43. > :32:46.believe they are 23 and not 15, just when you think you might have them

:32:47. > :32:50.on the ropes, they have got eight substitute who can really have an

:32:51. > :33:05.impact. At least four of them will. Today we had Care, Te'o, George,

:33:06. > :33:09.Haskell. They do not doubt themselves when they are going

:33:10. > :33:17.behind, but they still play smart enough to get into position and make

:33:18. > :33:23.the dry happen. That was still a great finish with Ford and barrel,

:33:24. > :33:27.but they got the job done. Halkett a player is Farrell, not just in the

:33:28. > :33:37.context of England, he has to play for the Lions somewhere. -- how key.

:33:38. > :33:41.He is a terrific player, he is a real defensive leader as well,

:33:42. > :33:46.really aggressive, and that kick from the corner late in the game was

:33:47. > :33:52.really important. Wales had time to try to get a penalty, a lot harder

:33:53. > :33:57.when you have to get a try. That kick was spectacular. It would be

:33:58. > :34:02.remiss to not mention Dan Biggar, who was not fit, what a game he had!

:34:03. > :34:09.He has got critics, and every time he plays, he has got it, he is

:34:10. > :34:14.superb, him and Moriarty, I think Wales were immense. We mentioned

:34:15. > :34:18.Owen Farrell, here years. How is the body have that tackle from Ross

:34:19. > :34:24.Moriarty? It really took the wind out of me for a bit! I was dry

:34:25. > :34:30.retching or a bit! Give us a glimpse inside the dressing room right now,

:34:31. > :34:34.what is the emotion? I have not been back in yet, we have not spoken, you

:34:35. > :34:39.know, there was times in that game when we played really well, times

:34:40. > :34:45.when replayed as well as we could, so in glimpses we were showing what

:34:46. > :34:50.we could do. Obviously, to come to a place like this, against a team like

:34:51. > :34:54.Wales, who have talked about lifting for this game all week, grinding out

:34:55. > :35:01.a was old in the end, coming away with the win is a brilliant result

:35:02. > :35:04.for me. We will look to put in a more complete performance. If you

:35:05. > :35:08.are an England fan with five minutes to go, people were chewing their

:35:09. > :35:13.fingernails on the sofa - what were you thinking as a team? You just

:35:14. > :35:17.focus on your job, you have not got time to think about too much else,

:35:18. > :35:22.just try to make the right decision at the rate time, we got some

:35:23. > :35:27.opportunities, as they did, but it felt as if it was coming, but you

:35:28. > :35:31.know, you have to be able to execute at the end, and thankfully we did.

:35:32. > :35:35.Briefly, how much self belief as Eddie Jones given this team, that

:35:36. > :35:39.you believe, even when you are down on the board with five minutes to

:35:40. > :35:44.go, that you are going to win? You know, the last couple of games we

:35:45. > :35:48.have found a way, and that is big, going into big games, like they have

:35:49. > :35:53.been over the past couple of weeks, so there is a lot of self belief in

:35:54. > :35:58.this team. I think that is what is exciting about hopefully what is to

:35:59. > :36:02.come, we are not the finished article, we will keep getting better

:36:03. > :36:07.and better. Wins for Ireland and England today,

:36:08. > :36:11.the third match of the second weekend of the Six Nations is at the

:36:12. > :36:27.Stade de France tomorrow, live from 2:15pm on BBC One.

:36:28. > :36:35.Stick with us on BBC One for Haskell, that is the agonising

:36:36. > :36:43.decision, it is Gary Barlow or Jeremy Guscott on the red button!

:36:44. > :36:48.Decisions, decisions in life! What does Eddie Jones do for being than

:36:49. > :36:53.team against Italy? Does it give him a to rotate a bit? I think he would

:36:54. > :36:59.have landed the Six Nations started, so he will know what he is thinking

:37:00. > :37:08.of, people would maybe think heartily out, George Inn, but I

:37:09. > :37:15.think he needs the games. -- Hartley out, George in. I don't expect to

:37:16. > :37:21.see too many changes. It is a weak off, then a week in, and if you

:37:22. > :37:25.rotates to many, it is four weeks before they're really big game. From

:37:26. > :37:28.a Welsh point of view, for all the disappointment, was that a step up

:37:29. > :37:36.from what we have seen over the past few months? I have not seen a

:37:37. > :37:40.performance like that since... New Zealand? At home, 2013, that was the

:37:41. > :37:48.last time I saw that intensity at home. They won three out of four at

:37:49. > :37:52.home, but really tough next against Scotland in two weeks. It will be

:37:53. > :37:56.really interesting selection. I think Owen Farrell said that they

:37:57. > :38:00.ground out the win, I don't think they did at all. If he was told that

:38:01. > :38:04.Wales would play that well Andy Woodward them, he would be very

:38:05. > :38:11.happy. It is a big win and a big performance from England. -- play

:38:12. > :38:16.that well and you would beat them. How do you see the game in Paris

:38:17. > :38:21.tomorrow? Can Scotland do what they did in 1989? They can, France are

:38:22. > :38:24.better than I thought, I think they will raise their game at home, it

:38:25. > :38:30.will be tough for Scotland, but they can definitely win. France will

:38:31. > :38:33.always give you access to the game, silly off-loads, penalties with

:38:34. > :38:39.silly decisions, so Scotland have a great chance over there. If they can

:38:40. > :38:47.get up front, the French have a juggernaut pack, but the backline,

:38:48. > :38:50.Scotland do stand a chance. That promises, tomorrow in Paris, to be a

:38:51. > :38:54.great finale to the weekend. As far as what we have had today, we could

:38:55. > :38:59.not have asked for a better spectacle in terms of competition,

:39:00. > :39:03.in terms of the ground up front, the flair behind, the most brilliant,

:39:04. > :39:08.brilliant entertainment, and I hope you have enjoyed and over the last

:39:09. > :39:12.two hours or so. From England's point of view, the sweetest of 16s,

:39:13. > :39:17.and we will see you in Paris tomorrow. Bye-bye.

:39:18. > :39:19.The second weekend of the Six Nations of 2017 is Wales against

:39:20. > :39:29.England in Cardiff. # Everybody, get in the groove and

:39:30. > :39:39.lead the good times roll # If it takes all night long, yeah

:39:40. > :39:47.# You can stay here until # If it takes all night long, yeah

:39:48. > :39:53.# All night, all-day # All night and all day

:39:54. > :39:59.# I'm going to stay here # I ain't going to move there! Soul

:40:00. > :40:01.Brother, let me find the groove... #