:00:17. > :00:25.Good evening. We have all the big interviews,
:00:25. > :00:28.preview and reaction on tonight's Coming up:
:00:28. > :00:31.We've got football covered as we speak to Swansea City boss Michael
:00:31. > :00:33.Laudrup, Cardiff City's Matthew Connolly and Tommy Smith, and one
:00:33. > :00:41.of Wales's most decorated ever international footballers, Jayne
:00:41. > :00:45.And a year on, we catch up with BBC Wales Sports Personality, Chaz
:00:45. > :00:48.Davies. Plus after a dazzling career at
:00:48. > :00:58.Wigan, rugby league legend Billy Boston opens up about his one
:00:58. > :01:01.
:01:01. > :01:04.In my heart I wanted to play for Cardiff, because I was born there,
:01:04. > :01:07.but they didn't want to know. We start with Swansea City as they
:01:07. > :01:17.get ready to welcome Premier League leaders Chelsea to the Liberty
:01:17. > :01:18.
:01:18. > :01:23.tomorrow in what has been another Despite defensive heroics, Swansea
:01:23. > :01:27.City return from a visit to the champions empty handed and with the
:01:27. > :01:31.knowledge they will be without their keeper for at least a month
:01:31. > :01:36.following a groin injury. Next day, Chelsea found themselves at the
:01:36. > :01:39.centre of another storm. After their first league defeat of the
:01:39. > :01:44.season at home to Manchester United. Referee Mark Clattenburg was
:01:44. > :01:48.reported to the FA for alleged use of a -- in appropriate language to
:01:48. > :01:55.Chelsea players, and the row has rumbled on all week.
:01:55. > :02:01.Do I think ultimately we have to try and block as much as we can,
:02:01. > :02:06.block this situation out, and just focus and Channel our energy on
:02:06. > :02:12.what matters to us as players and coaching staff when we get onto the
:02:12. > :02:18.pitch on a Saturday afternoon. If I say, come on referee, he is
:02:18. > :02:23.allowed to say something back to me, but this is a limit. If it is abuse,
:02:23. > :02:28.There are some words you can't say, obviously we have to deal with that.
:02:28. > :02:32.From what I can see and feel with my group of players, once we get on
:02:32. > :02:37.to the training pitch, they are fully focused on training and
:02:37. > :02:40.getting ready for the game, so I really hope it won't affect us at
:02:40. > :02:44.all. I after a disappointing weekend,
:02:44. > :02:48.fortunes were reversed for both clubs in the Capital One Cup on
:02:48. > :02:54.Wednesday, Chelsea gaining revenge over Manchester United in a nine
:02:54. > :03:00.goal thriller. I think it was a great win for us,
:03:00. > :03:05.it's -- for the spirit of the group as well. Winning is always a good
:03:05. > :03:09.factor for the team and the group. He it was also a very good night
:03:09. > :03:13.for Swansea City manager Michael Laudrup, who got one over on his
:03:13. > :03:17.predecessor Brendan Rodgers with a 3-10 -- win over Liverpool at
:03:17. > :03:20.Anfield. I think we played well. Sometimes
:03:20. > :03:26.playing the ball around and sometimes fantastic counter-attack.
:03:26. > :03:31.The second goal was a great counter attack as well, could pass, Finnish
:03:31. > :03:34.and the most important thing always was -- as always was the
:03:34. > :03:38.performance in general. A it is back to the Premiership
:03:38. > :03:43.tomorrow as both sides go head-to- head at the Liberty stadium, and Di
:03:43. > :03:48.Matteo will be mindful of Swansea's good home record so far and the
:03:48. > :03:53.impressive draw last January. They still have the same philosophy,
:03:53. > :03:57.keeping a lot of possession. I think they are more cynical now
:03:57. > :04:01.compared to La -- the last couple of seasons when they lost
:04:01. > :04:09.possession but didn't really creates many chances. They are a
:04:09. > :04:14.little bit more, they go forward quicker and score a few more goals
:04:14. > :04:18.than they did in the past, at least in the early stages of the season,
:04:18. > :04:21.so that has changed in the Swansea team.
:04:21. > :04:25.After facing Manchester City's star-studded line-up last weekend,
:04:25. > :04:28.is it another at -- it is another opportunity for the Swans to test
:04:28. > :04:32.themselves against the best in the Premier League.
:04:32. > :04:39.It is difficult, but you can compare it to the game against man
:04:39. > :04:43.City. We know how Juan Mata is playing, and the thing is to stop
:04:43. > :04:47.them. You can't stop players like that for 90 minutes, they were
:04:48. > :04:54.always do things because they have so much quality. It is the same
:04:54. > :04:58.with Carlos Tevez or Samir Nasri, and it will be the same on Saturday.
:04:58. > :05:03.My bladder's mind is already on the following game, a way at
:05:03. > :05:07.Southampton. -- Michael Laudrup's mind.
:05:07. > :05:12.I know we will perform well. I don't know if it is enough to get
:05:12. > :05:17.points. I am much more concerned about the Southampton game, because
:05:17. > :05:23.after three big games, yes, then we have to pay Southampton away. I am
:05:24. > :05:28.much more concerned about that game. And we will look ahead to Swansea
:05:28. > :05:31.City against Chelsea very shortly, but now I am joined by former Wales
:05:31. > :05:36.international Nathan Blake. Thanks for joining us.
:05:36. > :05:40.Thank you. We will start with the issue that won't go away, Mark
:05:40. > :05:47.Clattenburg, the referee embroiled in allegations. What have you made
:05:47. > :05:53.of it all? Well, it is difficult to say, it is difficult to pass
:05:53. > :05:56.judgment on that referee, on Mark Clattenburg, as far as races and is
:05:56. > :06:01.concerned, because we don't know what has been said yet, and to what
:06:01. > :06:06.has been said is confirmed by a statement from either the referees
:06:07. > :06:10.or the FA, whoever, it is impossible to pass judgment. With
:06:10. > :06:18.the John Terry case and other cases, I think they have been fairly
:06:18. > :06:23.straightforward, but this case, they say it is picked up by Mike or
:06:23. > :06:27.there is recorded evidence, but until we hear it we can't hear any
:06:27. > :06:30.way it -- one way or another. Football is coming second. It is
:06:30. > :06:36.the Premier League, for me at the moment there are brilliant matches
:06:36. > :06:41.going on, but on the periphery it seems to be about races and all
:06:41. > :06:45.referees and decisions -- about races them. With goal line
:06:45. > :06:50.technology, it is everything but the game, which is disappointing.
:06:50. > :06:54.On to actual football, and the game this weekend, Swansea City against
:06:54. > :06:59.Chelsea, how much will Swans fans and the Swansea team itself be
:06:59. > :07:04.buoyed by that result at Anfield? They should go into the game
:07:04. > :07:09.against Chelsea on cloud nine, really. That was a fantastic result,
:07:09. > :07:14.going to Anfield and turning them over in their own patch. Can they
:07:14. > :07:17.beat Chelsea? Yes, they beat man City last season and they have that
:07:17. > :07:23.style of football, they have adopted a style of football that
:07:23. > :07:29.Chelsea now play, so there is no reason why they can't get a result
:07:29. > :07:31.against Chelsea. On the day, Swansea City are a match for
:07:31. > :07:40.anybody. We will talk Cardiff City very soon.
:07:40. > :07:43.Stay with us. But last weekend, at the Wales rugby league team played
:07:43. > :07:47.England in Wrexham, and watching from the stands was one of the true
:07:47. > :07:52.greats of the game, Billy Boston. More from Nathan later on in the
:07:52. > :07:55.programme. Now, when the Wales rugby league
:07:55. > :07:59.team took on England in Wrexham last weekend, watching on from the
:07:59. > :08:02.stands was one of the true greats of the game - Billy Boston. Born in
:08:02. > :08:06.Cardiff, Boston made his name in the north of England with Wigan.
:08:06. > :08:08.And he's just been named as one of the greatest black athletes of all
:08:08. > :08:11.time, along with the likes of Mohammed Ali and Pele.
:08:11. > :08:21.The dream was to play rugby union for Cardiff, but the call from his
:08:21. > :08:25.
:08:25. > :08:30.Instead, he made his name in rugby league with Wigan. Pace and power,
:08:30. > :08:36.a winger who wrapped up 478 tries for Wigan and 31 caps for Great
:08:36. > :08:41.Britain. As he suggested in the past, did raise your prejudice in
:08:41. > :08:44.the 1950s deprive the union game of his talent? -- racial prejudice.
:08:44. > :08:54.my heart I want to play for Cardiff because I was born there, but for
:08:54. > :08:58.some reason they didn't want to know. There is a difference in
:08:58. > :09:03.playing been a coloured fellow to be in white. If you can play, it
:09:03. > :09:10.doesn't matter what colour you are. I wanted to play desperately for
:09:10. > :09:14.Cardiff, but it didn't happen. Because of the colour of your skin?
:09:14. > :09:20.I don't know, I don't think so. you have suggested in books written
:09:20. > :09:24.since then that that was the reason, prejudice. Why? Most of the
:09:24. > :09:28.coloured People living Cardiff. I don't know, I just might not have
:09:28. > :09:35.been good enough. From Tiger Bay as one of 11 children to Wigan, where
:09:35. > :09:40.his feats put him among us the greatest ever list of black
:09:40. > :09:45.athletes, with superstars like Jesse Owens and Pele for company.
:09:45. > :09:53.We never saw Pele or any of them. But we happily in the flesh, that
:09:53. > :09:58.is the difference. Was it number seven? He is number one to us! He
:09:58. > :10:02.is fantastic. If you go abroad on holiday and turn the body while
:10:02. > :10:09.from Wigan, you are either known for being applied eater or Billy
:10:09. > :10:15.Boston. He is a legend. Playing for Wigan was fantastic. They were good
:10:15. > :10:19.to me. Nothing has changed, everyone knows who you are.
:10:19. > :10:23.played here for a hell of a long time, and I enjoyed every minute.
:10:23. > :10:29.What does it mean to be labelled alongside Muhammad Ali and Jesse
:10:29. > :10:36.Owens? It is fantastic. It is mental. Muhammad Ali, it is
:10:36. > :10:41.From one Wigan legend to another, Shaun Edwards says Boston's
:10:41. > :10:46.recognition is rare but well deserved. Unbelievably successful
:10:46. > :10:51.career up in Wigan, and to be recognised on the world stage for
:10:51. > :10:56.any form of rugby, league or union, is quite unusual, and it shows what
:10:56. > :11:01.high regard Billy is held in in sporting terms. Even current Wigan
:11:01. > :11:06.stars like some Tomkins are inst -- enthralled to a man who played in
:11:06. > :11:10.six Challenge Cup finals. He is a legend in Wigan. Certainly rugby
:11:10. > :11:14.fans know what he did not only for our club but Great Britain as well.
:11:14. > :11:18.He had everything as a player, and still enjoys coming and praising
:11:18. > :11:23.the players, telling us how much better we are then he was, but I
:11:23. > :11:29.don't think that's too true. the stats are incredible, 31 games
:11:29. > :11:33.for Great Britain, 478 tries for Wigan, a record that still stands,
:11:33. > :11:40.probably never will be broken. What stands out for you amongst all
:11:40. > :11:46.that? Wigan put me on the wing, and it changed me. I found freedom and
:11:46. > :11:50.I enjoyed it. One chapter in a book describes you as combining the
:11:50. > :11:59.power of Martin Offiah and the guile of Gerald Davies. You have
:12:00. > :12:04.everything, didn't you? I trained at Catterick in the Army then I
:12:04. > :12:09.came to Wigan, and I and the train twice a week, I couldn't believe it.
:12:09. > :12:13.And yet, you have said that he would have given up everything you
:12:13. > :12:19.achieved in rugby league just to win one cap for Wales at rugby
:12:19. > :12:25.union. I only turn to rugby league because I couldn't make it in rugby
:12:25. > :12:30.union, and I wanted to play for Cardiff, which I didn't achieve. I
:12:30. > :12:35.wanted to play for Wales, which I didn't achieve. I am just proud to
:12:35. > :12:38.have played for Wigan. For all those years? Yes, and being a
:12:38. > :12:43.Welshman. And I loved it, I loved every minute, every second. You
:12:43. > :12:46.can't do any better. Last year, motorcyclist Chaz Davies
:12:46. > :12:49.was crowned Welsh Sports Personality of the Year. This week,
:12:49. > :12:59.Sport Wales caught up with him at the end of another eventful season
:12:59. > :12:59.
:12:59. > :13:04.on the track. After winning the World Super Sport
:13:04. > :13:07.championship last year, Chaz Davies may be inevitable step up to a
:13:07. > :13:11.higher-profile world of Superbike racing, and after a season of mixed
:13:11. > :13:16.fortunes, how does the 25-year-old Hereford based right to reflect on
:13:16. > :13:20.the last year? It has been a year since he won the
:13:20. > :13:27.title on this beast and BBC Sports personality of the year in Wales.
:13:27. > :13:30.What has the year been like? It has been great, coming of the year like
:13:30. > :13:34.2011 it has been hard to beat, but it is all about going after the
:13:34. > :13:38.next challenge and that what -- but that is what I had been working
:13:38. > :13:41.towards in 2012, and I am getting there, so on the whole a good year.
:13:41. > :13:46.The step up in terms of superbikes compared to what you are doing
:13:46. > :13:50.before, the profile is huge, what is the action like? It is a lot
:13:50. > :13:54.different in Super sport. I definitely expected it, it was no
:13:54. > :13:58.surprise to me. At the start of the year it was really challenging with
:13:58. > :14:04.injuries and a lot of bad luck, but in the end, I said as long as we
:14:04. > :14:08.get there at the end of the season then that is all I need to do.
:14:08. > :14:13.Davies had the worst possible start to his season, crashing and
:14:13. > :14:17.breaking his waist in the first race in Australia, but he put that
:14:17. > :14:23.behind him to achieve three podium finishes and a first championship
:14:23. > :14:26.victory at the Nuremberg chat -- track in Germany. You when you
:14:26. > :14:30.first racing superbikes, what does it feel like? It is hard to explain,
:14:30. > :14:34.it is on a par with winning the championship last year. Winning one
:14:34. > :14:38.Superbike race, it is really hard to explain, because the funny thing
:14:38. > :14:42.is in racing, some of the days where it doesn't feel fast, but
:14:42. > :14:46.when you are going fast... It is one of them days, you are just in
:14:46. > :14:50.the zone, everything is happening like clockwork, you don't feel like
:14:50. > :14:53.you are pushing, I wasn't out of breath either. It is hard to
:14:53. > :14:57.explain the feeling when you cross the line, it is difficult to
:14:57. > :15:00.explain that, but we need to make those days have been more
:15:00. > :15:08.consistently. The physical side is something people probably don't
:15:08. > :15:15.think about. What is your training regime, --?? York art pushing
:15:15. > :15:19.between 150-170 kilograms. I try to balance the the thing in training.
:15:19. > :15:25.Mr cycling, because it is low impact for us. The speeds you are
:15:25. > :15:31.going at during races, what speeds were top these days? These days, a
:15:31. > :15:38.Superbike will put out 210 miles an hour. You can get 210 depending on
:15:38. > :15:44.the circumstances. This year I got 209, so it is up there, you know
:15:44. > :15:48.you're doing it, and they are powerful bikes. Did you get the
:15:48. > :15:54.fear factor at all or can you switch that off? With experience
:15:54. > :15:59.you can switch it off. It is something that comes with
:15:59. > :16:03.experience and confidence in what you can do and what your limits are.
:16:03. > :16:08.You can still get caught out, as I found dead this year, and pretty
:16:08. > :16:18.much you find that out every year. I think it keeps you... A big crash
:16:18. > :16:22.
:16:22. > :16:28.York this the doing something right, because BMW are with you next
:16:28. > :16:33.season, how did that come about -- you're doing something right.
:16:33. > :16:39.another big step for me, it is going to be very interesting.
:16:39. > :16:43.Something I'm looking forward to. What are your aims for next year?
:16:43. > :16:48.Realistically, I'd like to be in the top five of the championship.
:16:48. > :16:54.I'm not going to say I'd like to win it, but the top five would be
:16:54. > :17:04.good progression. I want to win a few races. We'll see. There are
:17:04. > :17:09.
:17:09. > :17:12.always some unexpected things which car-park. -- crop up. Back to
:17:12. > :17:15.football now, and to one of Wales' most decorated footballers ever,
:17:15. > :17:18.who this month decided to call time on her international career with 61
:17:18. > :17:28.caps and 19 goals to her name. Cathy Williams went along to find
:17:28. > :17:33.
:17:33. > :17:39.out what next for Arsenal Ladies midfielder Jayne Ludlow. Arsenal
:17:39. > :17:43.player Jayne Ludlow has announced her retirement. It is not fair on
:17:43. > :17:48.the girls if they turn up and I know when they fit. It is
:17:48. > :17:53.heartbreaking because it has been my life for the last 16 or 17 years.
:17:53. > :17:58.It has been a great ride all the way through, but time is catching
:17:59. > :18:06.up with me. Unfortunately for Jayne Ludlow, her last appearance would
:18:07. > :18:10.not be happy one, as Wales would fail to reach the play-offs. It was
:18:10. > :18:14.always going to be a case of me hanging my boots up, but I would
:18:14. > :18:21.have loved to have continued and get to the finals before I retired.
:18:21. > :18:27.It wasn't to be, but hopefully those younger players will come
:18:27. > :18:31.through and I rate our team of more now than in the past. 149 counts,
:18:31. > :18:41.Jayne Ludlow walked out on her country after a disagreement with
:18:41. > :18:42.
:18:42. > :18:48.her then coaching team. I'm not proud of what they did. But there
:18:48. > :18:54.was only one reason why reacted like faded. Purely because I was
:18:54. > :18:59.fed up with the set-up -- like I did. What the coaches had been
:18:59. > :19:05.asked to do probably wasn't best for the girls. It was a decision I
:19:05. > :19:15.to Conner as captain that I could sacrifice myself for the good of
:19:15. > :19:16.
:19:16. > :19:20.the girls coming through -- I took on. I -- despite travelling the
:19:20. > :19:28.world with Arsenal and Wales, getting a game wasn't always that
:19:28. > :19:34.easy. Until she convinced them that she was good enough for the team.
:19:34. > :19:44.Back then it was unheard of, a girl playing for the team. Then I would
:19:44. > :19:48.
:19:48. > :19:58.kick the ball round the park. was your idol? In football,
:19:58. > :19:58.
:19:58. > :20:04.probably Mark Hughes. For me, as a 12-year-old kid, I just wanted to
:20:04. > :20:11.be on that part. He is one thing I never actually achieve. -- it is
:20:11. > :20:14.one thing. I kind of look back and I am frustrated, but I have played
:20:14. > :20:17.in many different venues around the world which makes up for that.
:20:17. > :20:21.London Olympics has undoubtedly raised the profile of women's
:20:21. > :20:26.football in Britain, and despite the opening fixture being played in
:20:26. > :20:30.Cardiff, the Team GB manager did not include any Northern Irish or
:20:30. > :20:35.Welsh players. I was disappointed with the fact that the people
:20:35. > :20:42.running it with the English coaches. The English manager, the English
:20:42. > :20:47.coaches, the English medical staff. Power you ever going to have a team
:20:47. > :20:52.picked in an unbiased situation, when the English have just picked
:20:52. > :21:02.their team? I feel really sad for the Welsh girls who didn't get an
:21:02. > :21:05.
:21:05. > :21:12.opportunity to play in the finals. As her playing career winds down,
:21:12. > :21:18.Jayne Ludlow continues in a role as a physiotherapist. But could we see
:21:18. > :21:23.a return to the Welsh setting in a coaching or managerial capacity?
:21:23. > :21:33.the moment, I work with 17-19-year- old girls, which I really enjoy. If
:21:33. > :21:35.
:21:35. > :21:42.I could be of help to the national I'm not sad that I'm coming to the
:21:42. > :21:47.end of my career. I've enjoyed every minute of it. I would like to
:21:47. > :21:53.carry on for the next few years, but it's not really going to happen.
:21:53. > :22:03.So for me, it is about future challenges the way from playing,
:22:03. > :22:09.but still being involved in the Jayne Ludlow, we salute you.
:22:09. > :22:17.Staying with football, and Cardiff City are on a big run. Undefeated
:22:17. > :22:27.at home, they're top of the championship. Lisa Rogers catches
:22:27. > :22:33.
:22:33. > :22:37.up with two squad members to talk Two new and very welcome additions
:22:37. > :22:43.to the Cardiff City set up after Tommy Smith and Matthew Connolly.
:22:43. > :22:47.Both players went to promotion in the Premiership. But when the
:22:47. > :22:51.manager Mark Hughes arrived, both were sidelined, and now they're
:22:51. > :22:55.hoping to do it all again with Cardiff City. It must be
:22:55. > :23:00.frustrating for you having been promoted with QPR and then finding
:23:00. > :23:06.yourself no longer playing for the Premiership? It is my job to get in
:23:06. > :23:11.the team of the Premier League, up and to prove I can play at that
:23:11. > :23:16.level. It is up to whoever the manager is at the time. If he
:23:16. > :23:21.doesn't feel and that level, that's fine. But other Premier League can
:23:21. > :23:26.I understand that standard is high. -- At the Premier League. Very
:23:26. > :23:33.frustrating. It really is. Looking back, you get caught up in what
:23:33. > :23:39.happens. He signed about five players, brought in a few of his
:23:39. > :23:45.own players, and of course Healey's in December just in time for Mark
:23:45. > :23:52.Hughes to comment. -- he leaves. Suddenly, to crops of different
:23:52. > :23:55.players coming in. It was frustrating -- two crops.
:23:55. > :24:00.Particularly at my age, early thirties, I don't want to sit on
:24:00. > :24:09.the bench and work my way into a team. I get really frustrated not
:24:09. > :24:14.playing. It was tough. Last season I was on loan at Reading, and Mark
:24:14. > :24:19.Hughes said, let's just see how you do. I thought I did well. They did
:24:19. > :24:23.offer me a contract, but obviously I have signed a lot of other
:24:23. > :24:28.players -- they have signed a lot of other players, so it's difficult
:24:28. > :24:32.to get in that team. I needed to play a whole season full of games
:24:32. > :24:40.at my age. And Tommy would have been no stranger to his new manager,
:24:40. > :24:46.with Malcolm McKay having been both his team-mate and gaffer at Watford.
:24:46. > :24:50.Off the pitch, he was a big joker and was a very loud presence in the
:24:50. > :24:54.dressing room. Being a manager, he has had to step back. We have to
:24:54. > :25:00.have a different approach. You can't get to Paris with players. It
:25:00. > :25:10.didn't surprise me at the way he did things -- you can't get too
:25:10. > :25:11.
:25:11. > :25:21.friendly. Hat -- how you fitting end as a person, are you joking
:25:21. > :25:25.
:25:25. > :25:31.around? No, I'm quite shy. But the lads bring you are to be shy.
:25:31. > :25:41.was your initiation? I went a bit cold school and sang, let it be. I
:25:41. > :25:41.
:25:41. > :25:46.thought the staff would like it more than the lads. Can you sing
:25:46. > :25:53.yet now? No, absolutely no chance. It is the most nerve-wracking thing
:25:53. > :26:03.ever. What was your initiation song? I sang a song by Joshua
:26:03. > :26:07.
:26:07. > :26:14.callous and. No way are you getting me to sing that. They continued
:26:14. > :26:18.their impressive run last Saturday with a win over Burnley. It leaves
:26:18. > :26:24.them three points clear at the top of the championship ahead of this
:26:24. > :26:31.week's game against Bolton. Might this be the season you get
:26:31. > :26:38.promoted? I think it's about time. I don't see why not. And we play
:26:38. > :26:44.well when we at home. We just got to keep doing that. I certainly
:26:44. > :26:54.think we are in a great position. We want to get promoted, and that
:26:54. > :26:56.
:26:56. > :27:06.is the aim, but that is a long way off. A maiden, Cardiff City.. With
:27:06. > :27:12.
:27:12. > :27:18.the new boys. Yes, they've done brilliantly. Connolly is coming in
:27:18. > :27:24.the depends very well. I would expect Cardiff to be there this
:27:24. > :27:29.season. Can you believe for staff they have had it for the season?
:27:29. > :27:39.can, because as soon as we got into a rhythm, I felt they would be
:27:39. > :27:41.
:27:41. > :27:51.there, tops real for. It has proved to be the case. They're playing
:27:51. > :27:52.
:27:52. > :27:56.extremely well. -- top three or four. The biggest thing for me,
:27:56. > :28:02.they have changed their manager, which tends to mean that the team
:28:02. > :28:05.has an uplift, and Cardiff being the next team to go, they are
:28:06. > :28:11.disappointed in a way, but it should make for a cracking game.
:28:11. > :28:17.Promotion? I think it is too early to talk talking about a promotion.
:28:17. > :28:20.There's no reason you can't fill confident, but keep that in house.
:28:20. > :28:27.They have as good a chance as anybody, because they're playing so
:28:27. > :28:31.well, but it is a long season. We are only 10 weeks into it, really.
:28:31. > :28:37.So if Cardiff are where there are now all round there in February,
:28:37. > :28:42.March, then we can start getting excited. Nathan Blake, thank you
:28:42. > :28:45.very much for joining us. That's all for this evening. Join us next