:00:24. > :00:29.This programme contains strong Welcomed where here tomorrow
:00:29. > :00:36.afternoon, Swansea City take on Manchester City. More on that later
:00:36. > :00:41.and plenty more besides on tonight's programmes. We
:00:41. > :00:46.investigate the level of racism in Welsh football. The higher power is
:00:46. > :00:48.needed to do more, they should set the example. We are in a camp with
:00:49. > :00:53.the Wales rugby league team ahead of their clash with England.
:00:53. > :00:59.There's always a lot of passion in these games. I don't think this
:00:59. > :01:03.will be any different. It is back to school for full-back Ben Davies.
:01:03. > :01:10.It has been unbelievable, just to make my professional debut and get
:01:10. > :01:15.regular games is all I could have hoped for. First, the story that
:01:15. > :01:20.has been dominating the headlines this past week - racism in football
:01:20. > :01:24.and the refusal of Swansea City players and other figures to wear
:01:25. > :01:29.T-shirts supporting the campaign, kicked it out. We have been getting
:01:29. > :01:35.the use of Welsh players who have suffered abuse as well as
:01:35. > :01:39.uncovering some disturbing claims of racism affecting Welsh football.
:01:39. > :01:42.This storm has been raging for 12 months ever since John Terry was
:01:42. > :01:51.accused of racially abusing Ferdinand. He was acquitted in
:01:51. > :01:56.court but found guilty by the FA and banned for four games. Then
:01:56. > :02:04.really was banned for eight matches. Last week, allegations that races
:02:04. > :02:08.is chance against Danny Rose. Then her refusal to wear the T-shirt by
:02:08. > :02:12.some big names and to the entire Swansea's court over a perceived
:02:12. > :02:17.lack of progress in tackling the issue, supported by some Welsh
:02:17. > :02:23.players who suffered abuse themselves. The Higher Powers,
:02:23. > :02:30.these other guys who should be taking notice. We want more done
:02:30. > :02:34.about it. From the top. We have been told about the red cards and
:02:35. > :02:43.they are worried about your socks being the same colour, all these
:02:44. > :02:49.stupid little rules but the main things about racism - these are the
:02:49. > :02:54.things we should focus on and the guys at the top, they are the ones
:02:54. > :03:04.who need to show the example. anti- racism campaigners in Wales
:03:04. > :03:04.
:03:04. > :03:09.were unhappy last week. What upset as the most was that players
:03:09. > :03:12.couldn't differentiate between the work we do and other organisations.
:03:12. > :03:22.We are independent charity and work with hundreds of schools across
:03:22. > :03:24.
:03:24. > :03:30.Wales over the past few years. Thousands of kids. They don't
:03:30. > :03:37.understand the work we do and how important it is. The organisation
:03:37. > :03:43.told us there are frequent cases of racism at grassroots level in Wales.
:03:43. > :03:49.This man claims he was abused on several occasions here as a player.
:03:49. > :03:57.I had one when I was playing for Bridgend where a player shouted at
:03:57. > :04:02.me. 18 months ago when I was playing. At half-time, walking into
:04:02. > :04:08.the changing rooms, I had a bit of banter with some of the players on
:04:08. > :04:18.the opposite side and the fans are all round, quite close to us. One
:04:18. > :04:21.
:04:21. > :04:24.of the other players decided to call me a black beak. Anyone found
:04:24. > :04:29.guilty which had been dismissed but the players are denied anyone had
:04:29. > :04:34.abused him. They said they investigated straightaway and found
:04:34. > :04:43.the remark was made by a supporter, not a player. Book clubs stressed
:04:44. > :04:50.they abhor racism. I reported it to the FA hoping that something would
:04:50. > :04:56.happen. Nothing happened at all. All players are asking for is that
:04:56. > :05:00.something is done, at least investigated, but if we feel that
:05:00. > :05:05.no matter what we do, it is going to be brushed under the carpet,
:05:05. > :05:09.because nobody wants to tackle it. In response, they stressed they
:05:09. > :05:13.have zero tolerance towards racism and said the incident was brought
:05:13. > :05:18.to the attention of them but nobody provided evidence to support the
:05:18. > :05:22.allegation. They say the Games in question don't have cameras to
:05:22. > :05:27.capture the abuse but since 2007 there have been four charges of
:05:27. > :05:31.abuse, to proven. They also said they were investigating an
:05:31. > :05:39.allegation of abuse towards a young boy in a junior team. There seems
:05:39. > :05:43.to be horrific abuse towards him from other clubs. There are parents
:05:43. > :05:48.involved and dare I say it, it seems there is a possibility of
:05:48. > :05:53.people at the clubs or players involved with the situation, so
:05:53. > :05:58.there are instances and situations out there in real terms and they
:05:58. > :06:03.have to be looked at and taken seriously. Far too often, things
:06:03. > :06:08.have been swept under the carpet. We need to know what support
:06:08. > :06:14.organisations have made. Racism allegations made last week against
:06:14. > :06:23.Serbia, which they deny, brought back painful memories for Robert,
:06:23. > :06:29.he was racially abused on duty in that country in nine years ago.
:06:29. > :06:33.There are or chance about monkeys and bananas thrown. We have
:06:33. > :06:39.experienced all that. We try to block it out but it affects you
:06:39. > :06:43.because it is something that is so deep. The previous day, Brown was
:06:43. > :06:46.abused while captaining the under 21s. It was supposed to be a good
:06:47. > :06:50.occasion for me and my family but it ended up being the worst day in
:06:50. > :06:55.my football career. I was the only black player on the pitch and every
:06:55. > :07:02.time I got the ball, 9000 people felt that they would stand up and
:07:03. > :07:08.do monkey signs and a chance for 90 minutes. Coming off, I rang my mum
:07:08. > :07:11.and I cried on the phone. I was angry, hurt. If Serbia are found
:07:11. > :07:17.guilty of these allegations, what punishment do you think they should
:07:17. > :07:23.receive? I think they should take points off them. You should not
:07:23. > :07:27.throw them out completely, it is not the whole of Serbia, this is
:07:27. > :07:31.not hit against the whole of Serbia because there are international
:07:31. > :07:35.players who are good people and they are not racists. Cardiff City
:07:35. > :07:39.say their players will wear the T- shirts before their match against
:07:39. > :07:42.Burnley tomorrow. This week the Professional Footballers'
:07:42. > :07:47.Association issued a six-point plan aimed at tackling racism while
:07:47. > :07:52.there is talk about a separate black players' association. We have
:07:52. > :07:56.Chinese players, Korean and players, Muslims, Arabs, all these different
:07:56. > :08:02.things so I don't think that is a good thing, that doesn't ticket
:08:02. > :08:05.fraud. It takes it back because then you bring in more racism
:08:05. > :08:14.because you are categorising whether you are or white people or
:08:14. > :08:19.black people. All we want is someone to come in who has a voice,
:08:19. > :08:25.he is not scared to voice their opinion, to let everyone else know
:08:25. > :08:29.that you cannot just hand out fines. You're never going to kick racism
:08:29. > :08:33.out completely, I don't think it will ever happen, but you can
:08:33. > :08:36.minimise it so it is as small as it can be. It is a good thing that the
:08:37. > :08:46.media has discovered this over the last few weeks because without all
:08:46. > :08:51.the media attention, it would still be the same in 10 years' time.
:08:51. > :08:55.Back to the big game now. Most Premiership clouds -- clubs have an
:08:55. > :08:58.international flavour and Swansea is no exception but 19 year-old
:08:58. > :09:03.full-back Ben Davies is from just down the road and has grabbed
:09:03. > :09:12.chances with club and country in two short months. We went to meet
:09:12. > :09:17.him when he visited his old school. Two months ago, Ben Davies had
:09:17. > :09:23.never played a game of first-team rugby. This week he returned to his
:09:23. > :09:27.old school as a Welsh international. It has been under -- unbelievable,
:09:27. > :09:35.to make my professional debut and get ready to games, it is all I
:09:35. > :09:38.could have hoped for. He is is just 10 miles from the home of the swans
:09:38. > :09:45.but it is definitely oval ball country. Be it is definitely more
:09:45. > :09:51.of a rugby school. I played more rugby definitely than any football.
:09:51. > :09:57.People tell me you are a decent 10 as well, rugby wise? I thought I
:09:57. > :10:07.did a job at this school although football was always my priority.
:10:07. > :10:07.
:10:07. > :10:12.could quite easily have gone on as a rugby -- football professional.
:10:12. > :10:18.He has been that Swansea City since he was nine years of age, by which
:10:18. > :10:22.time he was already at fanatic. have always followed the swans. I
:10:22. > :10:25.used to go down with my friends when I was younger and watch the
:10:25. > :10:29.games will stop to be out on the pitch wearing that Jersey is a
:10:29. > :10:32.dream come true. He is still under development contract that he signed
:10:32. > :10:36.in the summer and had a modest expectations ahead of the new
:10:36. > :10:46.season. I was hoping perhaps I would get the odd appearance here
:10:46. > :10:49.
:10:49. > :10:55.and there but then it down the line after a terrible injury, at the
:10:55. > :11:04.time, I first game, I had to do my best against some of the best
:11:04. > :11:08.players in the world. Every time I see Neil Taylor, someone like that,
:11:09. > :11:14.it is great to have him there are offering advice to make. Despite
:11:14. > :11:20.drafting in another player, the manager has kept faith in the
:11:20. > :11:25.youngster. What does he tell you? Just to keep doing what I am doing
:11:25. > :11:29.and he said I will only get better from playing these games and I
:11:29. > :11:33.think he must be happy with what he has seen so far otherwise he would
:11:33. > :11:39.not keep including the in the team. He knows he still has a lot to
:11:39. > :11:46.learn. Maybe too fast in three months, he knows he still has a lot
:11:46. > :11:54.to do. That is very positive. is the better player? Michael,
:11:54. > :11:57.100%! In what sense? The experience he has got and how well he reads
:11:57. > :12:04.things, it is all through playing the game and you can tell he still
:12:04. > :12:09.has so much ability. Maybe his legs gone, I would not run him around
:12:09. > :12:14.the pitch. The 19 year-old has started every single match since
:12:14. > :12:19.his first chance and to top it off, he made his international debut
:12:19. > :12:22.against Scotland. The game for Wales was a great moment in my life
:12:23. > :12:28.so far, just to be out there are singing the anthem for my country,
:12:29. > :12:33.it was unbelievable and it was one of the best experiences of my life.
:12:33. > :12:38.Next, the star studded line-up of Manchester City and an opportunity
:12:38. > :12:41.to test himself against some of the best players in the world.
:12:41. > :12:46.Unbelievable that I am competing against those kind of players. At
:12:46. > :12:51.the end of the day, it is happening now and I have to work hard and see
:12:51. > :12:58.what happens. I do think quite a few people fancy as to cause an
:12:58. > :13:01.upset tomorrow. Last season and we walked away with a 1-0 win. And
:13:01. > :13:07.besides, we got a good result against. We have a good chance
:13:07. > :13:12.going up there, hopefully we will get a result. It will not be easy
:13:12. > :13:19.to stay the same person because I have seen the car park and the
:13:19. > :13:23.blink summer players wear. Off- course but I cannot see me turning
:13:23. > :13:27.up every day like you see that footballers in the papers, I am
:13:27. > :13:33.quite happy to live my life and be happy with what I am doing and at
:13:33. > :13:37.the end of the day, what comes with football, I might get a few
:13:37. > :13:47.luxuries but I don't want a change as a person and coming back to
:13:47. > :13:58.
:13:58. > :14:02.places like this shows me who I am The I have probably enjoyed it more
:14:02. > :14:09.than a prolonged time because the pressure is off. It is like going
:14:09. > :14:13.back in time from before I became professional. Normally I would be
:14:13. > :14:19.called Williams but for some reason a lot of the youngsters now are
:14:19. > :14:24.calling me Mr shame. Great to see him enjoying Japan. This summer's
:14:24. > :14:28.Olympics saw much debate on Wales's involvement in a Team GB football
:14:28. > :14:32.side. But basketball authorities have now pulled the plug on
:14:32. > :14:36.permanently linking up with England and Scotland is to form a Great
:14:36. > :14:40.Britain team. Two-and-a-half months on from the
:14:40. > :14:45.London 2012 closing ceremony, and the post-Olympic blow is starting
:14:45. > :14:48.to fade. In British basketball, the harmonious outlook of the past six
:14:48. > :14:52.years has hit the buffers. Basketball Wales had decided to opt
:14:52. > :14:56.out of the Great Britain team, leaving England and Scotland
:14:56. > :15:02.forming Team GB. It retains a Welsh national side but the move has not
:15:02. > :15:06.been welcomed by the governing body. I want to be the best basketball
:15:06. > :15:11.player and if I am the best I want to play in the best competition.
:15:11. > :15:15.Wales has decided not to. You have to have a leap of faith, in those
:15:15. > :15:19.matches, you have to believe this is the way forward for basketball
:15:20. > :15:25.in your country. The for the good of Wales and
:15:25. > :15:29.players, it wasn't the right time to sign away independent membership
:15:29. > :15:33.and the opportunity for our players to take part in meaningful European
:15:33. > :15:37.competition. While Great Britain finished 9th at
:15:37. > :15:42.the Olympic Games, playing against the world's elite, earlier in the
:15:42. > :15:45.summer, the Welsh side were 5th out at seven teams playing in the
:15:45. > :15:49.European Championships for small countries.
:15:49. > :15:54.The key question here is whether basketball way as a practising self
:15:54. > :16:00.preservation or isolationism. are looking after the national team
:16:00. > :16:03.but is that to the detriment of individual aspirations? If we were
:16:03. > :16:07.amazed that the decision in Wales. We have a lot of support and we
:16:07. > :16:11.don't want to be the place hated from a basketball standpoint, and
:16:11. > :16:15.unfortunately that is what's going to happen. No disrespect to Wales
:16:15. > :16:20.but they will never play at the top table by themselves, and it is
:16:20. > :16:23.quite absurd that they made this decision. I actually agree with the
:16:23. > :16:28.decision because if we had linked up with England and Scotland and
:16:28. > :16:32.become British basketball, we would have given up our nationality is.
:16:32. > :16:37.Although it is not such a high standard as British basketball,
:16:37. > :16:40.there is still a level they can aspire to, and even if they --
:16:40. > :16:45.imagine if they said they would take away the Welsh national team
:16:45. > :16:49.because they have the Lions. There would be a hue and cry. In the last
:16:49. > :16:52.40 years, one player has made the British under 20 team.
:16:52. > :17:02.difference in class between this team and battered the Olympics is
:17:02. > :17:08.so large it is practically The but they aren't about to give
:17:08. > :17:14.that up to form Team GB. It is a pity but not a surprise, and
:17:14. > :17:19.certainly, there are some points you can't argue. You can say, is it
:17:19. > :17:23.better for a number of players to play in a lower division all for
:17:23. > :17:27.one talent to play in the British game, in my view it is that one
:17:27. > :17:31.talent. It would be better to be part of something bigger than
:17:31. > :17:36.trying to close yourself on yourself and avoid it, hoping the
:17:37. > :17:41.storm passes by. This storm is not negative, it is as an army of
:17:42. > :17:46.basketball popularity, which will go through whatever one wants to
:17:46. > :17:50.block or defend his interests, it will not stop. It will put them in
:17:50. > :17:55.a difficult position to stay in in the long run, and the more time
:17:55. > :17:58.goes by, the less choices they will have. The Olympics are the zenith
:17:58. > :18:02.of the international games. Great Britain now have a seat at the top
:18:02. > :18:06.table, but the actions of basketball Wales mean no Welsh
:18:06. > :18:10.players will be welcomed. I would think if we are not part of it, I
:18:10. > :18:14.would find it strange if we were allowed to play in it. We won't
:18:14. > :18:19.give away -- we want our players to take part in European competition
:18:19. > :18:24.and not just Friendly's. But those actions would stop someone playing
:18:24. > :18:28.at the Olympics? It may stop one of two players from attaining, it is
:18:28. > :18:33.highly unlikely over the next four years. We are content with the
:18:33. > :18:38.backing and the funding to build Welsh players. The man in charge of
:18:38. > :18:43.the Association has said there is a scenario -- Maxim army coming your
:18:43. > :18:48.way and you would get out of the way of the unstoppable concept.
:18:48. > :18:52.are all taking swimming lessons at this moment in time. With regard to
:18:52. > :18:57.a wave, I have all respect for Patrick. With support and as a
:18:57. > :19:05.nation, we can build a steady programme for our players, and the
:19:05. > :19:09.need for the players to play in meaningful competition. To us,
:19:09. > :19:14.divisions see is meaningful, and I don't believe we will be left in
:19:14. > :19:19.the woods. -- division at sea. What support we can build and it will be
:19:19. > :19:29.M -- would be remiss of us to take away that opportunity for the sake
:19:29. > :19:34.of one or two players Max to play Something a little different for
:19:34. > :19:37.you now: Last weekend we send former Olympic and Commonwealth 400
:19:37. > :19:46.-- 400 metre runner Iwan Thomas to the coast to find out about an
:19:47. > :19:51.event which mixes sport and You may think I am in sunny
:19:51. > :19:55.California, and you would be 100 per cent wrong. I'm in Porthcawl,
:19:55. > :20:05.but it is as beautiful a place. I am for the first ever splash up
:20:05. > :20:07.
:20:07. > :20:10.It is a fantastic weekend down here. You are heavily involved with the
:20:10. > :20:15.serving side of things as President of the Welsh surfing Federation.
:20:15. > :20:19.How proud I you to see youngsters having a try out this weekend?
:20:19. > :20:22.is marvellous. Obviously myself and the older guys have been involved
:20:23. > :20:27.for quite a while, we have enjoyed it and been fortunate to trouble
:20:27. > :20:36.over the world with it. Yes, it is different, but it is a good thing,
:20:36. > :20:40.you are out in the elements, it This was the base for the surfing
:20:40. > :20:43.events, and the Life Guards had their very own Iron man competition.
:20:43. > :20:52.But trust me, this was tough, it involved paddling, swimming and
:20:52. > :20:56.So, some, first event, and you are the winner. Yes. A brilliant event
:20:56. > :21:00.put on down here. The weather has turned out really nice. You have
:21:00. > :21:04.local knowledge because you live around here. Yes. I also run a surf
:21:04. > :21:12.Club here for the juniors in the summer so we are here every day
:21:12. > :21:16.coaching, so we know the place Very bizarre bumping into you
:21:16. > :21:20.Nicole, walking along here. I didn't know you were a surf chick.
:21:20. > :21:30.I make the most of it Wenham back. I grew up just down the road in
:21:30. > :21:32.
:21:32. > :21:42.Wick, and the bitch -- beaches are It's nice to do other things in my
:21:42. > :21:44.
:21:44. > :21:48.off season, and there is so much to It has been a great event, I take a
:21:48. > :21:54.lot of hard work and planning has gone into it. We feel sport for
:21:54. > :21:57.kids is important, so we need to make sure at there are
:21:57. > :22:01.opportunities through the local authority to make sure kids can
:22:01. > :22:05.take part. There was lots going on in the town and the Esplanade as
:22:05. > :22:15.well, with plenty to keep everybody entertained, perhaps get involved.
:22:15. > :22:20.
:22:20. > :22:24.The afternoon activities have finished, unfortunately, the serve
:22:24. > :22:34.wasn't brilliant. We are hoping for night-time surfing, but one thing
:22:34. > :22:34.
:22:34. > :22:38.is for certain, the atmosphere will You were going to serve tonight but
:22:38. > :22:42.you have a damaged back. You have a nice tasker been a judge. That's
:22:42. > :22:46.right. I will use the years of experience and see what the guys
:22:46. > :22:50.can do in the conditions. This is the first time we have run a might
:22:50. > :22:54.serve event in Wales. It promises to have a good future but we want
:22:54. > :22:58.to encourage youngsters and get them to come along and get into the
:22:58. > :23:03.Welsh surfing Federation, which is a stepping-stone for grassroots and
:23:03. > :23:12.competitive surfing. What will it take to win it? Knowing your bra
:23:12. > :23:19.there is one of the judges? -- your Whoever get the lucky wave will do
:23:19. > :23:29.the business. This is really novel, I have never been asked an event
:23:29. > :23:36.
:23:36. > :23:40.like this. It is like Grand Slams Once we started running the final,
:23:40. > :23:44.a couple of waves came through, I thought we might be able to give
:23:44. > :23:53.our eye on other boards, but it was just fun, enjoying serving in the
:23:53. > :23:56.Having my the whole family judging tonight wouldn't have helped. All
:23:56. > :24:01.good fun, the boys having a good time, and that's what it's all
:24:01. > :24:07.about at the end of the day. serve has hardly been California
:24:07. > :24:11.style, but you know what, I can't fault the atmosphere. Young, old,
:24:11. > :24:17.everybody has been truly inspired by this event. The Cadet -- we cut
:24:17. > :24:20.it. This is what it is all about. Getting young people to it get
:24:20. > :24:24.involved in sport. Long may it continue.
:24:24. > :24:30.It is a year until Wales kick-off their rugby league World Cup
:24:30. > :24:34.campaign against Italy in Cardiff. This weekend, they take on England
:24:35. > :24:38.in the second autumn Test. So will the current crop emulate the class
:24:38. > :24:48.of 1995 and reach the World Cup final, which will be played here at
:24:48. > :24:51.
:24:51. > :24:55.Reaching the semi-finals in 1995 was the high point of what
:24:55. > :24:59.contributions to the World Cup. Under the flag of Great Britain,
:24:59. > :25:05.Billy Boston and Clive Sullivan lifted the trophy. As a separate
:25:05. > :25:15.country, Wales have played three times. A third-place finish in 75...
:25:15. > :25:18.
:25:18. > :25:24.Semi-finalists in 95, and again in But having failed to qualify for
:25:24. > :25:27.the World Cup in 2008, rebuilding has begun under the familiar faces
:25:27. > :25:31.of Les -- Iestyn Harris and Lee Briers. Haris's first season in
:25:31. > :25:35.charge saw Wales win the European Championship and qualify for the
:25:35. > :25:41.four nations, but against the Kangaroos, Kiwis and England they
:25:41. > :25:45.found it tough. We are about learning to play at this level of
:25:46. > :25:54.intensity, and what we need to try and get out team prepared to do is
:25:54. > :25:59.learn to improve and tweak and are just things. We know we are on low
:25:59. > :26:03.budgets and we are building nation, we need to keep working hard. Once
:26:03. > :26:07.we get success we will get more sponsorship, and until that happens,
:26:07. > :26:11.we will be in the second year of rugby league. In June, Wales lost
:26:11. > :26:18.to France in Wrexham. Last weekend they went down again in a physical
:26:19. > :26:25.matches. I got there first cap -- you got the first cap out of the
:26:25. > :26:29.way. How was that? I really enjoyed it. I was over the moon to go out
:26:29. > :26:34.against France. Making my debut against a team like France was
:26:34. > :26:39.really good. The Welsh Super League cyber Crusaders only lasted three
:26:39. > :26:44.years before going out of business. Their longer term legacy is a base
:26:44. > :26:50.of players, the squads and the 70 - - of the Seventies and Nineties
:26:50. > :26:57.filled with union, -- converts. Last weekend's 90 man squad
:26:57. > :27:00.contained nine home-grown players. -- 90 man. In 99 and 2000 when I
:27:00. > :27:04.was involved, ultimately we have good players around us, but we
:27:04. > :27:07.scratch the surface and there was nothing else coming through and no
:27:07. > :27:11.real infrastructure in place before Wales' rugby league. What we have
:27:11. > :27:17.tried to do over the last four or five years his book that
:27:17. > :27:21.infrastructure in. They are coming through the systems. We have people
:27:21. > :27:24.playing rugby league for the last three or four years, and we have
:27:24. > :27:28.them at the top of the international season now. If they
:27:28. > :27:33.can do that in three or four years, give it another four or five years
:27:33. > :27:37.and the future looks good. Next year wales face is to leap -- Italy,
:27:37. > :27:40.the USA and the Cook Islands for more cost -- at quarter finals, and
:27:40. > :27:45.another world semi-final is a possibility. They will all be
:27:45. > :27:49.together, 12 months older, knowing assistance to play, and we are
:27:49. > :27:52.building, we have never had this before as the country. We have
:27:52. > :27:58.always turned up and played but now we have a fantastic set-up as the
:27:58. > :28:03.country deserves. Is the World Cup a big tempting thing for you guys?
:28:03. > :28:08.It is massive for us. We are spared -- inspired. We want to be in the
:28:08. > :28:12.top three or four in 2017. We want to be up there with the likes of
:28:12. > :28:15.Australia and England. This time next year we will be in a position
:28:15. > :28:20.where we have played the best four teams in the world consistently for
:28:20. > :28:25.the last two years, which means we should be very well prepared come
:28:25. > :28:30.the start of the World Cup. England this weekend, even without man of
:28:30. > :28:33.sit -- man of Steel some Tomkins will be a tough prospect. Wales
:28:33. > :28:37.having beaten them in 17 years and few would bet on it being different
:28:37. > :28:43.tomorrow. They have world-class players in their teens, so for as
:28:43. > :28:49.boys it will be a massive challenge. We have Boys Under 20, amateur
:28:49. > :28:53.players, it will be a massive ask for us, but we have a lot of pride
:28:53. > :28:57.as a side, and we will give it to them and make sure they are in the
:28:57. > :29:00.game. There is always a lot of passion between England and Wales
:29:01. > :29:03.games, and this will be no different. All the players in
:29:03. > :29:08.groups -- in the group are beginning to understand what is
:29:08. > :29:14.required of them, and part of that is to have heart and desire, so I
:29:14. > :29:17.think we will see that in abundance this weekend. And very best of luck