:00:29. > :00:33.Thank you very much, thank you. Hello and welcome to the show.
:00:34. > :00:37.Thank you very much, thank you. hope that your New Year resolutions
:00:38. > :00:40.are still intact. A lot of budding new sports stars running out of
:00:41. > :00:45.energy towards the end of January but we are here to strengthen your
:00:46. > :00:48.resolve and feel youthful energy because all of my guests had pushed
:00:49. > :00:54.the limits of human endurance. One of Britain pots best loved comedians
:00:55. > :01:01.will tell me why she is doing a sponsored walk in seven days, it is
:01:02. > :01:07.Jo Brand! He is -- a daring young adventurer who has single-handedly
:01:08. > :01:14.wrote, kayaked and cycled around the world, Sarah Outen is here. And he
:01:15. > :01:19.is a superstar gymnast who has won a stack of major medals including gold
:01:20. > :01:30.at the 2015 World Championships. Completing our line-up, it is Max
:01:31. > :01:33.Whitlock. Let's catch up with my guests, who know all about tackling
:01:34. > :01:39.great sporting challenges and defying the odds. At 23 Max Whitlock
:01:40. > :01:45.has amassed a stunning 21 major medals and his rectory on the pommel
:01:46. > :01:48.horse made him the first British man to win gold at the World Gymnastics
:01:49. > :01:54.Championships. The next great challenge in his career is the Rio
:01:55. > :02:00.Olympics. Sarah Outen has just completed an historic round the
:02:01. > :02:03.world expedition in her quest she covered deserts and conquered
:02:04. > :02:07.subzero temperatures on a bicycle and spent months and months and
:02:08. > :02:14.months alone on the ocean, rowing phenomenal distances. One of
:02:15. > :02:20.Britain's best loved comedians is training for her adventure, Jo
:02:21. > :02:23.Brand's One Hell of a Walk is walking a marathon every day for a
:02:24. > :02:28.week, crossing the country in aid of Sport Relief. All of my guests know
:02:29. > :02:32.about aiming high, and trying to beat the odds. Please welcome Max
:02:33. > :02:58.Whitlock, Sarah Outen and Jo Brand. Three fine athletes we have never
:02:59. > :03:02.had on the sofa and I know, Jo Brand, you have been waiting your
:03:03. > :03:09.whole life to be introduced as an athlete. I have and can I say that I
:03:10. > :03:11.barely got up those stairs! So what is going to happen with your
:03:12. > :03:19.challenge, it is called One Hell of a Walk? It is quite a long walk. It
:03:20. > :03:25.is for Sport Relief. When I was told, asked to do the challenge, I
:03:26. > :03:29.thought a hell of a walk for me is going to the shop, so I agreed and
:03:30. > :03:37.then I found out it is from Hull, deliverable. And not a bus in sight
:03:38. > :03:45.-- to Liverpool. I'm doing it over seven days which is roughly a
:03:46. > :03:53.marathon a day. If you had said that before, I would have said I could do
:03:54. > :03:58.17, but they are called Snickers now. Are you a keen walker? No, not
:03:59. > :04:05.really. Are you getting keener as the training goes on? Less! I like
:04:06. > :04:08.walking, actually, about a mile. You are going to get a lot of good
:04:09. > :04:15.advice on the fitness side and also taking an epic journeys. Sarah Outen
:04:16. > :04:19.has been rowing, kayaking and cycling around the world, which is
:04:20. > :04:30.amazing, isn't it? APPLAUSE
:04:31. > :04:34.Why? Basically because I wanted a big adventure. A few years ago I
:04:35. > :04:37.wrote over the Indian Ocean from Australia to Mauritius and I loved
:04:38. > :04:41.it, I was empowered by the idea that you can pull off a big adventure
:04:42. > :04:45.like that and I was excited by the idea that you can do more. You
:04:46. > :04:52.weren't being pursued for debts or anything? No! Even though she wasn't
:04:53. > :04:59.walking or running, it has played havoc with her feet. You don't wear
:05:00. > :05:03.shoes, do you? I do if I'm going outside but generally inside I like
:05:04. > :05:09.to be bare feet, I feel grounded. You should have a go! I really like
:05:10. > :05:14.barefoot walking outside. I might do that. My plan is to do about a mile
:05:15. > :05:21.and a half and then roll down the side of the motorway, hit my head on
:05:22. > :05:28.a rock, hospital, sorry! Do you think that will work? It reinvents
:05:29. > :05:31.the phrase, preparing to fail. You are actually preparing to fail.
:05:32. > :05:35.Somebody has to fail eight Sport Relief challenge and it has to be
:05:36. > :05:39.me. I don't agree, I can see where you're coming from. Max Whitlock,
:05:40. > :05:45.only be world champion the pommel horse.
:05:46. > :05:48.APPLAUSE -- the world champion. When you
:05:49. > :05:53.arrived in Glasgow, did you think before you started, before the
:05:54. > :05:59.competition, that you could win it, that you should win it? You can be
:06:00. > :06:05.rarely arrogant if you like! As an athlete you have to be ambitious,
:06:06. > :06:09.you can always hope for it but you never expect it. I personally never
:06:10. > :06:14.go into competition thinking about medals, I hope to do my job, that's
:06:15. > :06:19.what I train for. In the gym, six days a week, 35 hours a week,
:06:20. > :06:25.practising routines. I want to go to the competition and do another one.
:06:26. > :06:33.How many hours a day? 6-7 hours a day. Six or seven? I'm in there for
:06:34. > :06:40.11! Shall we have a look at his medal winning routine? Can you tell
:06:41. > :06:45.us what you are thinking. This is my 20th routine of the week, I was
:06:46. > :06:51.quite tired. I just had to push through and focus for the last one.
:06:52. > :06:56.My favourite one, the biggest one, obviously. The crazy story is that
:06:57. > :07:01.me and my coach walked through the tunnel just before and changed my
:07:02. > :07:04.routine. Which bits did you change? One of the moves at the beginning, I
:07:05. > :07:14.did an extra move which increased my start by one tenth. Good pointing of
:07:15. > :07:19.your toes, can I say. It is near the end and at this point you just want
:07:20. > :07:23.to stay on and finish it well. I managed to do it. The margin I
:07:24. > :07:27.traced the routine by was the margin I won buy, so we are quite happy
:07:28. > :07:35.with the decision. APPLAUSE
:07:36. > :07:38.You put your arms in the air and then you have to wait, almost longer
:07:39. > :07:45.than the routine takes, to get the marks. Yeah. During that time,
:07:46. > :07:48.what's going through your head? I was so overwhelmed by the
:07:49. > :07:52.atmosphere, being part of the crowd was amazing. Me and my coach were
:07:53. > :07:56.pleased to make it and then I thought, I'd better look at the
:07:57. > :08:01.scores. Louis had a massive 16. Louis Smith, who is your team-mate
:08:02. > :08:06.and your friend. He has done a brilliant routine, you know it is a
:08:07. > :08:10.massive score. From then on, for us to... We were both happy and we
:08:11. > :08:17.hoped we could be first and second and we did. That's a big statement
:08:18. > :08:22.for Team GB. Really proud. So what's made the difference? London 2012,
:08:23. > :08:27.the first gymnastics team medals in 100 years, was it, for the men? I'm
:08:28. > :08:32.a big believer that success breeds success. You have Louis and Dan
:08:33. > :08:39.Keating 's and Beth Tweddle, by the guys who got ball rolling. That's
:08:40. > :08:42.what I'm hoping to do. We are a neighbourly in place. We have great
:08:43. > :08:46.funding, great facilities, great coaching. We couldn't ask for more,
:08:47. > :08:52.we are doing our jobs and hopefully it can inspire others. Jo, this is
:08:53. > :08:58.the effect you may have, watching from Hull, to Liverpool. Can I say
:08:59. > :09:04.that it's highly unlikely but I'll do my best. I'm rather hoping to
:09:05. > :09:09.encourage women like me, fat and lazy. I think there's something to
:09:10. > :09:12.be said for walking as a group enterprise. I've been walking with
:09:13. > :09:17.friends of mine who I've known for years and we've had a really nice
:09:18. > :09:21.day. We've walked 12, 13 miles without even realising it. And
:09:22. > :09:22.people tell you anything when you are walking because you are not
:09:23. > :09:29.looking at it each other all the time, try it. I
:09:30. > :09:33.was surprised to learn that one of them was having an affair with my
:09:34. > :09:42.husband! What aspects of the walk are you worried about? Incontinence.
:09:43. > :09:48.It is an issue, isn't it? Obviously there isn't going to be those... You
:09:49. > :09:51.know, toilets like to get at festivals at two yard intervals,
:09:52. > :09:58.which is what I normally need. So that is an issue. And cameras
:09:59. > :10:02.following year. And crying is an issue -- following you. I know that
:10:03. > :10:06.they will want me to cry at some point and say that I can't go on,
:10:07. > :10:13.they want me to do that and I'm determined to cry. When did you last
:10:14. > :10:19.cry? Probably about 1958. It's not going to happen, is it? Did you cry,
:10:20. > :10:25.Sarah, during your expedition? From time to time I cried, quite a lot on
:10:26. > :10:29.the Atlantic. It was really tough, I was basically going nowhere and I
:10:30. > :10:33.wanted to be home as well. The journey was taking longer than I
:10:34. > :10:37.thought it would do. How long was it meant to take? We thought it would
:10:38. > :10:43.take much romance and I was at sea for 143 days and I only made it two
:10:44. > :10:50.thirds of the way across -- take four months. I was passed by a ship
:10:51. > :10:55.ahead of a hurricane, and it is not a good idea to be in a small boat
:10:56. > :11:00.during a hurricane. The boat came over the top of me. I cried a lot
:11:01. > :11:04.when I saw my little boat being cut-off into the distance. Because
:11:05. > :11:09.it has a name and everything. She is called happy socks. It is like she
:11:10. > :11:15.is the other half of my team, my friend. We got a sighting update:
:11:16. > :11:19.she is 500 miles away at the moment, making her way this way, we hope.
:11:20. > :11:24.There is a chance we may get her back. So she might finish the
:11:25. > :11:36.journey on her own? She might do, she doesn't need a roller. -- a
:11:37. > :11:47.rower. We can look at one of your emotional moments. I have just lost
:11:48. > :11:52.Happy Socks. See is my team-mate, it is like abandoning her. I'm happy to
:11:53. > :11:56.be alive but I am gutted that I have lost her. I should say that this is
:11:57. > :12:01.just after she had been rescued, her life has been saved. You weren't
:12:02. > :12:09.overjoyed, though. If you were not picked up, what were your chances of
:12:10. > :12:14.survival? There was a crew on the tanker ship, a crew of 35, they were
:12:15. > :12:20.lost in the Bahamas just the day before that in the same hurricane
:12:21. > :12:24.system,... Width a little rowing boat, no chance. You don't want to
:12:25. > :12:29.take risks you don't need to. The last section was meant to take a
:12:30. > :12:36.certain amount of time. The whole adventure was how far? 25,000 miles
:12:37. > :12:41.covered. And how long were you anticipating it would take? Two and
:12:42. > :12:44.a half years but it ended up taking four and a half because the weather
:12:45. > :12:50.got in the way. This does not go into as enough detail but you set
:12:51. > :12:56.off from London, going across Europe and Russia. I kayaked and cycled
:12:57. > :13:01.across, through France and Europe and Asia, to the far east of Russia
:13:02. > :13:08.and then I kayaked and cycled down to Japan and I rowed across the
:13:09. > :13:12.Pacific which took two temps because a typhoon got in the way of the
:13:13. > :13:26.first attempt and I was rescued after 28 days -- two attempts. I got
:13:27. > :13:30.to the Aleutian Islands, a chain of islands going out from mainland
:13:31. > :13:36.Alaska. I came home and trained for the next part, kayaking 2500 miles
:13:37. > :13:40.up to the nearest road and then I cycled across North America, in
:13:41. > :13:46.winter, to arrive on the east coast in the spring and I came across the
:13:47. > :13:49.Atlantic, two thirds of the way before being picked up ahead of the
:13:50. > :13:54.hurricane. We finished up in London under the Tower Bridge, cycling and
:13:55. > :14:02.kayaking to really round off the journey. Bring -- bringing everybody
:14:03. > :14:08.together who had helped. The strange thing about this is that you have a
:14:09. > :14:13.great fear, don't you? What is it? I think people are supplied when I say
:14:14. > :14:18.that I'm scared of deep water. It is different if you are on a boat, but
:14:19. > :14:27.if I'm in it, I get scared, much deeper than a bath, to be honest.
:14:28. > :14:36.That is why I am scared of deepwater. Are you thinking of
:14:37. > :14:40.wildlife you might encounter? No, I am not. How digital friends and
:14:41. > :14:47.family react when you said you were doing this challenge. With laughter.
:14:48. > :14:53.Have they been supporting new at all? Yes they have, they have been
:14:54. > :14:58.on walks with me and that is quite supportive I suppose. They left me
:14:59. > :15:04.behind because they are thin and very fit and I am like... I am
:15:05. > :15:09.concerned we might be keeping you from your training. You are not. I
:15:10. > :15:15.can reveal something that will happen now, which means I have to
:15:16. > :15:29.expend calories. What do you want me to do? You are going to come with
:15:30. > :15:37.me. O matron. Here we go. We bought this especially for you. What is
:15:38. > :15:45.this? Press go. 321, I am off to the pub. If you go up in speed. It is
:15:46. > :15:55.really hard. Do you want me to go faster? Yes. Perfect. What do you
:15:56. > :16:07.think of her posture and general walking technique? Spot on. Are you
:16:08. > :16:12.listening to anything when you walk? Or are you with nature and thinking
:16:13. > :16:17.about your stride pattern? I am looking around me and waiting for
:16:18. > :16:24.something dramatic to happen so I can intervene. Like a robbery or
:16:25. > :16:32.something. Why? If I see a nun trying to nick someone's wallet, I
:16:33. > :16:38.am in there. I feel like I am a local policewoman really. We have
:16:39. > :16:42.guarding the community while I'm walking. Your imagination takes over
:16:43. > :16:49.and gets you through the hours of training while you imagine things
:16:50. > :16:55.that might happen? You might call it my imagination, others might call it
:16:56. > :17:01.might emotional disturbance. Going up a hill? The macro I think not.
:17:02. > :17:06.Why go out there hill when you do not absolutely have to do. You will
:17:07. > :17:14.go over the Pennines? But that will be when I get to the Pennines. That
:17:15. > :17:22.is quite steep, give it over to Max. Do you train with a coach or on your
:17:23. > :17:28.own? I have got a coach. How is that going? He is lying at the bottom of
:17:29. > :17:38.the Thames. What did he think you need to work on? He thinks I need to
:17:39. > :17:43.work on being not fat and nearly dead. It is quite steep, there is an
:17:44. > :17:54.emergency stop button if you need it. That is better. APPLAUSE
:17:55. > :18:02.Hard, isn't it? It is hard. We can give your feet a rest now and go
:18:03. > :18:07.back to the sofa. She is so unfit. Two look at me, and I am not even
:18:08. > :18:15.over breathing, you have a little rest and I will carry on.
:18:16. > :18:26.Have a mild blow. I feel good about that. I think Jo has an interesting
:18:27. > :18:31.attitude for the challenge. How would you coach in terms of her
:18:32. > :18:37.mental approach, day after day of extreme conditions, hurting and
:18:38. > :18:44.needing to keep going? We were talking before we came in here to
:18:45. > :18:47.night and Jo said that if she can forget about the day before because
:18:48. > :18:53.her memory is not good and your sense of humour will stand you in
:18:54. > :18:58.good stead. There is a lot of repetition, Max, you have to do your
:18:59. > :19:03.routines over and over again. Max, don't feel you have to do. Talk to
:19:04. > :19:09.me like you would talk to an elderly aunt who is a bit mad and is never
:19:10. > :19:17.going to make it. I would say any advice, think about the end product.
:19:18. > :19:25.Think about all of this training. A pint, a sausage roll. It could be,
:19:26. > :19:29.whatever you want. If you finish and feel like you have accomplished
:19:30. > :19:35.that, that is a good feeling to fight for. You are such a nice
:19:36. > :19:39.person, I can't possibly live up to your openness, sweetness and
:19:40. > :19:44.honesty. I am cynical, overweight old bag and honestly I am trying
:19:45. > :19:52.really hard to get fired up in that way. It will be worth it. Will it?
:19:53. > :19:56.It will be fun. Sporting challenges are becoming a habit, this is not
:19:57. > :20:04.the first walk you have done, you have done some mad rally driving,
:20:05. > :20:14.what was happening here? That is in my garden. That is the Maldon mud
:20:15. > :20:19.race, you have to run 800 metres in mud which is this deep but what
:20:20. > :20:24.happens, all of the very thin people run over it like little else first
:20:25. > :20:30.and get in the lead and then the sad, fat old ones at the back tramp
:20:31. > :20:34.through it and get stuck, I got stuck up to my waist and it is not
:20:35. > :20:43.the mediating at all because some guy with a lass ooh pulls you out.
:20:44. > :20:49.In terms of your mountains, you want people to support you. I would
:20:50. > :20:56.really like them too and also to have a go at it themselves. Either
:20:57. > :21:02.come and join me or just go down at the bottom of the Pennines where it
:21:03. > :21:09.is nice and comfy. You can go to www. Sport Relief slash sponsored
:21:10. > :21:18.Jo. It is for Sport Relief which has always been brilliant and provides a
:21:19. > :21:21.range of charities for kids and adults in difficult conditions in
:21:22. > :21:30.society. With some sort of hope and I think we all need that really. I
:21:31. > :21:36.know our audience it a night and your guests would want to help, you
:21:37. > :21:41.want to support her. I want to support you, this is to look after
:21:42. > :21:48.your toes on the way, some plasters, you may need them. Thank you very
:21:49. > :21:54.much indeed, have you got any food? Max, you would like to help and like
:21:55. > :21:58.food. Ie To healthy because I do not go to different countries so I do
:21:59. > :22:03.not know what the food will be like, that is the worst time to be worried
:22:04. > :22:07.about what you want to eat at competitions in other countries,
:22:08. > :22:13.when we went to China, I took a lot of food with me. If I think I went
:22:14. > :22:18.to China I think I would have a Chinese. You never know what you
:22:19. > :22:23.will get. I was given a sheep 's head in China, I had to eat the
:22:24. > :22:28.nostril, it was not nice. I looked at the kayak and wondered how you
:22:29. > :22:35.feed yourself, because you cannot cook on there. We use the kayak for
:22:36. > :22:39.crossing between islands, the longest time I had to be in the
:22:40. > :22:44.kayak was 19 hours. So you cannot get out of the boat, you are talking
:22:45. > :22:54.about managing going to the toilet in the Pennines. I was with the
:22:55. > :22:57.queen of C kayaking, and you put the boats together and you stand up in
:22:58. > :23:04.your boat and put your foot on the back of their boat and wobbling a
:23:05. > :23:08.bit in the waves and then you have to be between the boats ideally or
:23:09. > :23:23.if you miss your boat, you want to get it on their boat. It can be a
:23:24. > :23:28.bit tricky. Sounds very tricky. I try to wind the window down and get
:23:29. > :23:32.a lorry. Max says you have to focus on the prize at the end, he thinks
:23:33. > :23:40.of gold medals and you are thinking of what? Sitting down and not
:23:41. > :23:46.walking any more, that is enough of a prize for me. Max is fit and
:23:47. > :23:51.healthy but you have not been 100%, in 2015, you were really sick? It
:23:52. > :23:56.was a tough start to the year, I had glandular fever. The toughest part
:23:57. > :24:01.was not knowing what it was. I said to my mum and dad that I felt the
:24:02. > :24:05.fittest I had ever been and looking forward to the Europeans but as the
:24:06. > :24:10.competition started, I deteriorated and could not get through any
:24:11. > :24:14.routine. I got a blood test and found it was glandular fever and it
:24:15. > :24:18.was a blessing in disguise, if there is any time to get it, it would be
:24:19. > :24:23.then, that is how I have thought about it because it gave me time to
:24:24. > :24:28.recover and come back. When you talk about getting back into shape, for
:24:29. > :24:36.some of us it is toes and knees but for him, it means looking like this.
:24:37. > :24:42.O God. You are not even holding your tummy in there, are you? That is
:24:43. > :24:48.you, relaxed? Yes. You might not think that Max Whitlock can take his
:24:49. > :24:55.gymnastic ability anywhere but he can come he cannot just walk down
:24:56. > :25:09.the stairs, no, he has to do this. That is crazy. APPLAUSE
:25:10. > :25:12.I love it because what you are doing is popularising gymnastics and
:25:13. > :25:16.showing that you can learn to do it, kids love that, they would love to
:25:17. > :25:22.walk downstairs on their hands. I shouldn't, please don't do it right
:25:23. > :25:29.now but I love it. I did try it at home. I wondered if we might talk
:25:30. > :25:35.romance. Joan looks thrilled, Sarah, what did you do in the middle of the
:25:36. > :25:40.ocean? I proposed to my girlfriend and got engaged. It was over the
:25:41. > :25:45.satellite phone, I called her up and she said yes which was very
:25:46. > :25:50.exciting. I then realised I did not have a ring so I drew arranged on my
:25:51. > :25:56.finger until I got to the other side. How much time have you spent
:25:57. > :26:02.together? We have spent a lot of time apart, but we have been
:26:03. > :26:09.together for three years now. I can tell you now that in the future, you
:26:10. > :26:11.will come to appreciate that. We had two months cycling together across
:26:12. > :26:16.North America last winter, that was the point of the journey, where I
:26:17. > :26:22.was not sure I wanted to carry on with it because I was sad we were
:26:23. > :26:26.apart. First of all, she said I was not coming home until it was under
:26:27. > :26:33.Tower Bridge so that was a clear answer. That is a euphemism. Is your
:26:34. > :26:38.relationship more straightforward Max? I have been with my girlfriend
:26:39. > :26:44.for eight years now. Am I right in thinking you have just moved in
:26:45. > :26:47.together? I moved in after the Commonwealth Games. Is it all
:26:48. > :27:00.planned around Commonwealth Games, Rio? Pretty much, yes. We will see.
:27:01. > :27:05.Although you are the world champion, you still have to qualify? Yes, for
:27:06. > :27:10.the World Championship is we qualified a five-man team but not
:27:11. > :27:15.individual, now there are 15 boys in the squad who are fighting for five
:27:16. > :27:24.places. You have this secret weapon if and when you get to the end used
:27:25. > :27:30.the Whitlock, this is top secret but in general terms, what is it? For a
:27:31. > :27:36.start, I have always dreams of having my own move in the code of
:27:37. > :27:42.points which is where you have all of the elements and I would love to
:27:43. > :27:46.see it in there one day. I would do it on my favourite piece, the pommel
:27:47. > :27:51.horse, it would be a big move and it takes a very long time but hopefully
:27:52. > :27:57.sometime in the future I can use it. We have seen you do some crazy
:27:58. > :28:04.things but would you like to see him if he can do one little trick for
:28:05. > :28:08.us? APPLAUSE Here is the challenge you are
:28:09. > :28:13.facing, you are facing a fierce opponent, in goal, we have Jo, big
:28:14. > :28:17.hands Brand and this is going to be a penalty taken in a way you have
:28:18. > :28:22.never seen before, Sarah, if you could throw us a all come on my
:28:23. > :28:27.whistle, are you ready? Everyone else, not him, are you ready Jo?
:28:28. > :28:45.APPLAUSE Thank you to Max Whitlock, Jo Brand,
:28:46. > :28:48.and Sarah out, we have reached the end of the show, we will see you
:28:49. > :28:53.next week, good night.