:00:38. > :00:39.Welcome to the Premier League Show here at the National Football
:00:40. > :00:42.Joining me this week is Kevin Kilbane.
:00:43. > :00:45.I'll be talking to him later about his old club Sunderland
:00:46. > :00:47.as well as the other big stories from the last 7 days.
:00:48. > :00:51.We've also got Jermaine Jenas casting an eye over Spurs' start
:00:52. > :00:53.to the season and Romesh Ranganathan gives us his take on
:00:54. > :00:58.But first, having guided Bournemouth from the bottom of League Two
:00:59. > :01:00.to the Premier League, with a short stint at Burnley
:01:01. > :01:04.in between, Eddie Howe has emerged as one of the brightest
:01:05. > :01:06.prospects in management, and he's English!
:01:07. > :01:08.Gary Lineker has taken a trip to the South Coast
:01:09. > :01:38.After you, sir. Thank you.
:01:39. > :01:40.Thank you very much for having me down.
:01:41. > :01:45.Pleasure. Here it is, not one of the bigger
:01:46. > :01:48.grounds in the Premier League? You can say that. It is unusual for the
:01:49. > :01:53.Premier League teams to play in this environment. But the pitch is
:01:54. > :01:57.lovely. And usually with the association you get a smaller
:01:58. > :02:02.ground, horrible pitch. From that perspective there is no complaint.
:02:03. > :02:07.The player surface is important for you, you like to keep it on the
:02:08. > :02:12.ground. You are not the manager from throw-back time, you like to play?
:02:13. > :02:16.We like to play. We made a pledge to our eaves that from promotion, we
:02:17. > :02:20.would not change. We would keep doing what got to us this position.
:02:21. > :02:24.Playing outstanding football in the championship, and I would not want
:02:25. > :02:31.to be a manager if I changed what I believe in.
:02:32. > :02:34.COMMENTATOR: Smith, oh, ? what a cracker.
:02:35. > :02:38.Did you feel there was a turning point when you felt you were coming
:02:39. > :02:46.to terms with the Premier League stuff? As I hosted games that were
:02:47. > :02:52.tight together, the Everton game where we came back 3-3 and the
:02:53. > :02:56.Chelsea and the Manchester United game, we won back to back. That was
:02:57. > :02:59.the turning point. That week or couple of weeks gave the players a
:03:00. > :03:04.belief we could stay in the division.
:03:05. > :03:09.Where did it come from? Your ethos, the way you believe football should
:03:10. > :03:14.be played? You would not have grown up watching that football. It has
:03:15. > :03:20.crept in over the years. I grew up watching you... Definitely
:03:21. > :03:25.not, then! My vision of football has really changed. As a player you play
:03:26. > :03:30.to win, to succeed individually and as part of a team. When I became a
:03:31. > :03:35.coach, I had to view it differently. As I have grown older as a coach, I
:03:36. > :03:39.moulded ply ideas and philosophies, to this point I want to play
:03:40. > :03:47.attractive football, I want people to pay to watch my team. Yeah, I
:03:48. > :03:51.did, actually, I watched a lot of you as a kid.
:03:52. > :03:55.Blimey, those were the days. So long ago now.
:03:56. > :04:01.Does it feel a different world for you? As in a life time away? It is
:04:02. > :04:05.30 years, more than half of my life. Yeah.
:04:06. > :04:10.So, this is my office. Quite a cold office.
:04:11. > :04:15.It is chilly, isn't it! Someone put the air conon.
:04:16. > :04:19.They have. You have a few philosophical things going on. Do
:04:20. > :04:23.you spend a lot of time thinking about the game? Does it sometimes
:04:24. > :04:27.become an obsession? It does, absolutely it is very much my life.
:04:28. > :04:31.I think obsession is probably the right word.
:04:32. > :04:35.Do you have to have a word with yourself, to say, have a bit of
:04:36. > :04:42.perspective here? No, I can't do that. That is how immersed I am! I
:04:43. > :04:46.think you accept in this type of job, that is how you are going to be
:04:47. > :04:51.until you're out of it. If the players are really honest and
:04:52. > :04:55.I had a chat with them, what do you thinker their opinion of you would
:04:56. > :05:00.be? That's a good question. I finally asked a good question!
:05:01. > :05:06.That is a good question, though. I think that they would say I'm
:05:07. > :05:09.obsessive. Driven to, I would hope that they would say I'm driven to
:05:10. > :05:14.achieve. Do you care if they like you? I'm
:05:15. > :05:17.not interested if they like me as a person, I would hope that they
:05:18. > :05:24.would. But the main thing is that I hope that they respected the fact
:05:25. > :05:29.that I worked hard for them. He's a quiet guy but with a good
:05:30. > :05:34.influence on the football pitch. You have a young family, I suppose
:05:35. > :05:40.that managing must take up a hell of a lot of time. How do you get the
:05:41. > :05:46.balance twieth wean the two? It is a tough one for me and moo I family. I
:05:47. > :05:52.believe to do the job right, you have to fully explicit. They are
:05:53. > :06:00.long days. A press conference at 8.00am, who does that? No-one! But,
:06:01. > :06:09.yeah, I have great family, two lovely boys, a dog, my lovely wife.
:06:10. > :06:14.What time are you in? 6.30. How ambitious are you? I would say
:06:15. > :06:18.I've always been incredibly ambitious. As a player I was
:06:19. > :06:23.determined to get to the top but I never got there. As a manager, my
:06:24. > :06:27.thoughts are slightly different. I'm fiercely ambitious for this club.
:06:28. > :06:33.That's why I asked the question. If you are that ambitious as a person
:06:34. > :06:47.and as a coach, do you not feel at some stage to get to the top or to
:06:48. > :06:51.be perceived like Pepe Guardiola or Jose Mourinho, do you feel you would
:06:52. > :06:56.have to move on? I think if I want to be the best manager I have to be,
:06:57. > :07:00.I have to get now right. That is why I Ahmadinejad barbs for the team. If
:07:01. > :07:07.the club does well, the team do well, everyone benefits.
:07:08. > :07:12.This this is where we dour videos it is a bit dark. This is where the
:07:13. > :07:18.players sit and see good or bad clips of themselves.
:07:19. > :07:22.Do you go through every detail or pick out individual bits? Just
:07:23. > :07:27.individual bits. You know what players are like, you don't want to
:07:28. > :07:34.overload them with too much. That is a good point. Age sits and
:07:35. > :07:37.statistics room sn. So they can watch the games and
:07:38. > :07:44.training. Do they do that? Yes, a new
:07:45. > :07:48.generation of players are interested in this side of things. They know
:07:49. > :07:51.how to work a computer. Things have changed.
:07:52. > :07:57.The worketh cringe, is that something you were brought up with?
:07:58. > :08:02.It must have been. I think I feel I had a great childhood. Really well
:08:03. > :08:09.looked after by my mum. One of five kids. Not a rich family. It was very
:08:10. > :08:11.much humble beginnings and really a childhood spent in a park kicking a
:08:12. > :08:16.ball. I have seen you mention the fact how
:08:17. > :08:20.important, how significant your mother was to you and to your career
:08:21. > :08:24.and everything that happened to you, I know you lost her a few years ago
:08:25. > :08:30.is that very much the case? Yeah, very much so. One of five kids, a
:08:31. > :08:35.single parent, having to bring those five kids up with no money. It was a
:08:36. > :08:40.difficult situation for her. You are looking at people, as a kid, you are
:08:41. > :08:45.looking at someone as a role model, to inspire you to make something of
:08:46. > :08:52.your life, she always had a positive outlook. If I can give her a
:08:53. > :08:56.compliment, if I can take a bit of the adversity she overcame, then I
:08:57. > :09:00.have done that. What you have achieved here is
:09:01. > :09:05.extraordinary, isn't it? It is, when you are in it and living it every
:09:06. > :09:10.day you don't realise what has happened. If you had said a few
:09:11. > :09:14.years ago that Bournemouth can get into the championship, it would have
:09:15. > :09:21.been a tough ask ask, I would have said. Can they win it, I would have
:09:22. > :09:25.said that is probably not possible, and retain the status, no chance.
:09:26. > :09:28.But, we have gone some way to doing that.
:09:29. > :09:34.How do you do that? What is the secret? There is no secret.
:09:35. > :09:39.Intelligence? The main thing is hard work. Everyone is different. There
:09:40. > :09:43.are some players open and want to become better so they will let me
:09:44. > :09:50.coach them and change them. But some players are like, they are good as
:09:51. > :09:54.they are, they don't want outside influences changing them. I find
:09:55. > :09:59.that difficult as I'm hands on with all of my players, I want to push
:10:00. > :10:04.them to new levels. Do you lose it occasionally? I do
:10:05. > :10:11.have a dark side. I would say I only developed that from managing. I
:10:12. > :10:16.would are myself quite a placid, friendly guy who could mould himself
:10:17. > :10:21.to most situations but when managing and the winning and the losing comes
:10:22. > :10:31.in, you know, I've always considered myself - I want to win.
:10:32. > :10:40.Does it affect your weekend badly when you lose? It affects moo I
:10:41. > :10:46.life. Does it? Yeah, my moods, my outlook on life is certainly
:10:47. > :10:49.different. But I have my edge, if I see unprofessionalism, people not
:10:50. > :10:52.giving their all, then we will not get on.
:10:53. > :11:00.How many staff do you have? It is growing. Especially on the analyst
:11:01. > :11:05.side, there is lots of... Oops, there you go. A new signing! You
:11:06. > :11:08.didn't expect to see that. I didn't expect to see that. He's got
:11:09. > :11:14.control. Good move.
:11:15. > :11:20.So that's our analyst room. That's the analyst! Hang on, what is
:11:21. > :11:25.this, a Wheel of Fortune? When someone does not adhere to the
:11:26. > :11:31.rules, so is late, instead of me fining them, this is a system we use
:11:32. > :11:39.that is slightly different. A tenner is not much to a modern day
:11:40. > :11:43.Premier League player? But it means that we give ?1,000 to charity. It
:11:44. > :11:47.is a good way of the players giving back.
:11:48. > :11:52.It's a good idea. In terms of watching the other players and the
:11:53. > :12:00.style of football, we are getting big name managers in this country,
:12:01. > :12:04.Guardiola, miles an hour evenow, Jurgen Klopp, et cetera, do you
:12:05. > :12:09.think we overlook homegrown coaches a little? I don't know. I'm in
:12:10. > :12:13.favour of the best person regardless of their nationality. I have no
:12:14. > :12:19.problem with the fact that the Premier League does not have has
:12:20. > :12:24.many English, British managers as we should. We have to prove ourselves.
:12:25. > :12:30.So with the new managers coming in it is great. I love it
:12:31. > :12:35.You must look at it overall, there are so few English coach, you have
:12:36. > :12:40.had excellent longevity at Bournemouth, does the England job
:12:41. > :12:45.appeal down the line? Well, after watching you play for England for
:12:46. > :12:49.many years and really willing England to win a major tournament
:12:50. > :12:53.and being so immersed in the feeling of pride in your country, the
:12:54. > :12:58.England job is the ultimate. I would never is a "no". It is not something
:12:59. > :13:03.that I want to consider but it is not something in my immediate
:13:04. > :13:12.thoughts. They are this club and this job.
:13:13. > :13:16.Boot rooms are much more colourful than they were in my day. It was
:13:17. > :13:21.always black and white. Even mine.
:13:22. > :13:25.The coaches are the only black and white.
:13:26. > :13:29.Old school. Eddie, I really appreciate you giving your time to
:13:30. > :13:32.us. It's been fascinating. I wish you all the very best.
:13:33. > :13:34.Thank you very much. It's been really nice to meet you.
:13:35. > :13:44.Likewise. I like seeing behind the scenes of a
:13:45. > :13:49.club because things change so much. What was it like in your day, was it
:13:50. > :13:54.as futuristic? It brings you back to when I had nothing, the game has
:13:55. > :13:59.changed in my career. Over the last five or six years we had access to
:14:00. > :14:03.the things they've got, the video technology, the computers for the
:14:04. > :14:08.players to watch their own analysis. That's where the game has changed
:14:09. > :14:12.dramatically over the last ten, 15 years and he's the example of the
:14:13. > :14:17.modern-day manager. Still so young and he's at the vanguard of the
:14:18. > :14:23.technology. He has also been praised and touted for the big jobs, Gary
:14:24. > :14:26.mentioned England and some people have mentioned Arsenal. Is it
:14:27. > :14:33.realistic that and in this manager is going to take over at a top four
:14:34. > :14:37.club? It looks unlikely. The top clubs now, the first port of call is
:14:38. > :14:43.to Europe. The better managers have been managing at Champions League
:14:44. > :14:47.level. It would be nice if we could see our own managers progressing and
:14:48. > :14:53.doing well in the Premier League first of all and then getting one of
:14:54. > :14:56.these big jobs. This is what the Premier League are aiming towards,
:14:57. > :15:00.this is what the managers are aiming for and it must be the goal.
:15:01. > :15:04.Thinking about why these opportunities are not there, it is
:15:05. > :15:08.something that big Sam used to be known. Is it because of foreign
:15:09. > :15:13.ownership, the foreign consortiums look to the following managers? I
:15:14. > :15:18.think there's an argument in that but if you look at Sam Allardyce, he
:15:19. > :15:23.would have always targeted the England manager's job. He hasn't
:15:24. > :15:27.necessarily managed at a top four club to get that position so it
:15:28. > :15:31.Eddie Howe is targeting England, he doesn't necessarily need to manage a
:15:32. > :15:35.top four club before he got the job although it is a long way in the
:15:36. > :15:39.future for him. Still no English manager has won the Premier League.
:15:40. > :15:46.It is quite poignant in the weeks we are looking at Arsene Wenger, more
:15:47. > :15:51.so next week, 20 years ago, there were 14 English managers in the
:15:52. > :15:55.Premier League when he took the job, only two foreign coaches including
:15:56. > :16:00.him and Ruud Gullit. The game has changed, different landscape from
:16:01. > :16:03.the player's perspective and the managers and coaches.
:16:04. > :16:05.Bournemouth's humbling at Manchester City was just one
:16:06. > :16:09.of the headlines from a busy seven days in the Premier League.
:16:10. > :16:14.# "A Head Full of Dreams" - Coldplay #
:16:15. > :16:21.COMMENTATOR: The Shard into the back of the net, what a beauty from
:16:22. > :16:30.Jordan Henderson! We are happy with the start, everything is good. It is
:16:31. > :16:41.the Belgian. Simple as that. Oh, what a pass, Gundogan. Fabulous
:16:42. > :16:48.football. Manchester City have four. Once again, the play from Kevin was
:16:49. > :16:53.terrific, an outstanding player. Fletcher, Rondon, to make it four,
:16:54. > :17:04.for West Bromwich. Rondon, Chadli and it is another horror show for
:17:05. > :17:11.West Ham. Troy Deeney. And Watford will celebrate this day. Manchester
:17:12. > :17:15.United beaten. We had a defeat. Some of the boys are having a bit of
:17:16. > :17:21.difficulty to cope with that negativity. Townsend coming
:17:22. > :17:27.galloping forwards, he may fancy it himself. He does, he scores and
:17:28. > :17:32.Stoke City conceding four goals in a match for the third time in the
:17:33. > :17:34.opening five games of the season. We are shipping to many goals, we need
:17:35. > :17:48.to get back on track. So, Manchester City's
:17:49. > :17:52.perfect start continues. Everton creep up to second as
:17:53. > :17:55.Manchester United's fall to seventh following two consecutive
:17:56. > :17:56.Premier League defeats. Whilst at the bottom,
:17:57. > :17:59.West Ham fall below the dreaded dotted line to join winless
:18:00. > :18:12.Sunderland and Stoke Manchester United got a victory in
:18:13. > :18:15.the EFL cup but Jose Mourinho was critical of what seemed to be the
:18:16. > :18:18.press criticising him, having criticised his players at the
:18:19. > :18:25.weekend and singling out players as well. Did that happen to you as a
:18:26. > :18:29.player ever? A lot of criticism for the few bad games I've had in my
:18:30. > :18:38.career! We've got a compilation tape! The criticism, most manager,
:18:39. > :18:42.every manager would have criticised me and other players as well in one
:18:43. > :18:49.way or another. But to the press? No. Not on the scale that Mourinho
:18:50. > :18:54.has done it over the last year or two, not just the last few weeks. I
:18:55. > :19:00.think it starts to create disharmony within the club and that is where
:19:01. > :19:03.you start to get these sorts of problems that can manifest further
:19:04. > :19:10.down the line. He has experienced this with Chelsea last season. Quite
:19:11. > :19:14.dramatic, what appeared to be a big divide in the dressing room because
:19:15. > :19:18.he criticised players. It seems very early to be replicating that
:19:19. > :19:25.behaviour. Almost two years ahead of himself! Of course frustration comes
:19:26. > :19:30.into it, we all accept that and it is a pressurised job and we've all
:19:31. > :19:34.got to appreciate that. I think sometimes you must choose your
:19:35. > :19:39.words. The words he's been using of certain players over the last few
:19:40. > :19:43.weeks, I think it's going to affect the morale of the team going
:19:44. > :19:47.forward. You're never going to get the best out of a player doing that.
:19:48. > :19:50.Not in my experience because players will try and use it against the
:19:51. > :19:55.manager, even when it is internal the players can use it against the
:19:56. > :19:59.manager. When it is so open, it can be used against the manager.
:20:00. > :20:00.Tottenham's win over Sunderland on Sunday
:20:01. > :20:03.lifted them up to third and, statistically, they have the best
:20:04. > :20:05.defence in the Premier League so far this season.
:20:06. > :20:11.Jermaine Jenas has had a look at how their defence begins with attack.
:20:12. > :20:17.If you have a Fantasy Football Club the chances are that you will have a
:20:18. > :20:20.Spurs player in your defence, they had the best Premier League
:20:21. > :20:24.defensive record last year and they are carrying that form into this
:20:25. > :20:28.year, conceding DOS in five. Sometimes that has called for some
:20:29. > :20:33.brave last-ditch defending and it was Kyle Walker's goalline clearance
:20:34. > :20:39.which epitomised that desire. Poor defending from Eric Dier. At this
:20:40. > :20:43.point, Kyle Walker has a decision to make, close down Pienaar or cover
:20:44. > :20:48.the goalkeeper and he makes the right decision. Look at his hunger
:20:49. > :20:53.and desire to make sure the ball doesn't go over the line. It kept
:20:54. > :20:57.his team in the game. For Spurs and Pochettino if they must engage in
:20:58. > :21:01.last-ditch defending, the game plan has failed because it's all about
:21:02. > :21:05.suffocating the opposition into regaining the possession higher up
:21:06. > :21:13.the pitch. This is defending as a theme, Dele Alli, Son, Eriksen, how
:21:14. > :21:18.many other teams are asking their forwards to defend with such
:21:19. > :21:24.intensity? Winning the ball and they are on the attack. More often than
:21:25. > :21:27.not, the pressure on the ball starts even higher up the pitch, Pochettino
:21:28. > :21:32.demanding more from his attackers than just goals and assists. Last
:21:33. > :21:38.season, Lamela committed more fouls than any other Spurs player.
:21:39. > :21:41.Although this is pretty standard stuff, Spurs don't stop doing this
:21:42. > :21:46.over 90 minutes. This is a free kick for Sunderland, Harry Kane could
:21:47. > :21:50.stand on Kone and force him to go along but he set the trap, he wanted
:21:51. > :21:55.the ball to be played short so he could win the ball, Sunderland
:21:56. > :21:58.realise they are in trouble, Dele Alli pressing and they have to go
:21:59. > :22:04.along. Who's going to win the header? Eric Dier. Who is going to
:22:05. > :22:08.pick up the scraps in midfield? Time and time again on Sunday it was
:22:09. > :22:13.Spurs. Asking attackers Dimeck tackles isn't without risk, Harry
:22:14. > :22:23.Kane picked up a nasty injury at the weekend -- to make tackles. Can
:22:24. > :22:26.Jansen Phil Kane's boots? Get yourself back in and do some good
:22:27. > :22:30.work for the team and that is what he does, yes, he committed a foul
:22:31. > :22:34.but he stopped the attack from Crystal Palace. Tottenham haven't
:22:35. > :22:37.been scoring freely but if you aren't scoring goals you must make
:22:38. > :22:41.sure you are not conceding and Spurs have mastered that. It doesn't
:22:42. > :22:43.always have to be pretty but it is pretty effective.
:22:44. > :22:46.Kevin, we saw Spurs inflict another defeat on your old side,
:22:47. > :23:02.It feels like Groundhog Day. David Moyes is showing signs of looking
:23:03. > :23:07.frustrated. I think he has a bit of frustration, you can see that. I
:23:08. > :23:13.think the one thing, having known David since I was 16, so I knew him
:23:14. > :23:17.as a player, coach, and I've worked with him in management, if you give
:23:18. > :23:21.him everything on the training ground, if you are a professional he
:23:22. > :23:25.will do everything in his power for the players. That's one thing he
:23:26. > :23:31.will tell players. If you do right by me I will do right by you. His
:23:32. > :23:35.door is open, he listens to the players and within that he doesn't
:23:36. > :23:38.necessarily have the weakness where he is bowing down to the demands of
:23:39. > :23:45.players but he always takes on board what they need. I felt I had my best
:23:46. > :23:51.spell under him. His coaching was very good. On the training ground,
:23:52. > :23:55.they could not complain about what they brought to him. A number of
:23:56. > :24:01.issues, recruitment, that seems to be outside, looking in, one issue
:24:02. > :24:05.where he wanted to bring in some signings over the summer. What is
:24:06. > :24:09.the culture at Sunderland at the moment that is prevailing that seems
:24:10. > :24:15.to need turning around? It is the culture of the club. Over the last
:24:16. > :24:21.few years, a conveyor belt of managers, you get to February,
:24:22. > :24:25.March, the manager saved the club, they have high optimism but then the
:24:26. > :24:29.season starts in the same season and they will go. I would like David
:24:30. > :24:33.Moyes to break the cycle. I thought with Sam Allardyce that the cycle
:24:34. > :24:39.could be broken. I am hopeful that David Moyes, get to January, in a
:24:40. > :24:44.decent enough position, strengthen the squad and then we are hopeful
:24:45. > :24:47.over the next few years. Following more refereeing
:24:48. > :24:49.controversy at the weekend, we wondered what sort of person
:24:50. > :24:52.would take on the toughest So, we asked Romesh Ranganathan
:24:53. > :25:07.to look inside the mind Are used to be a maths teacher which
:25:08. > :25:12.is why I understand what it is like to be a figure of hate who regularly
:25:13. > :25:14.receives abuse. I understand the differences for the referees,
:25:15. > :25:19.teaching is about future generations whereas refereeing is actually
:25:20. > :25:25.important but today's lesson is about why anybody would want to be a
:25:26. > :25:29.rest. Earlier this season in the Stoke Manchester City game, Mike
:25:30. > :25:33.Dean awarded two penalties for shirt pulling, enforcing a new directive
:25:34. > :25:37.from the FA and every other Premier League referee went, well done, we
:25:38. > :25:48.will all have to do it now, thanks a lot, mate (!) I imagine he got it in
:25:49. > :25:55.the neck and the referees' Jenks, which sounds like the worst night
:25:56. > :25:59.ever. -- drinks. I mean, who wants to be a referee? Who watches a game
:26:00. > :26:02.of football and wishes that they were be one blowing the whistle?
:26:03. > :26:08."Imagine If they were abusing me, fantastic". Referees are like
:26:09. > :26:13.politicians, the ones who are least suitable are the ones who want to do
:26:14. > :26:18.it. Referees are supposed to be unnoticed, managing without incident
:26:19. > :26:21.but increasingly they are in the Leeds enjoying the attention. The
:26:22. > :26:28.main part forbidding a referee is the same part of being a teacher, it
:26:29. > :26:32.is the power, it is intoxicating. Saying, I'm not sort that is ten
:26:33. > :26:39.yards, I think I need the spray, the same as saying, it is your own time
:26:40. > :26:42.you are wasting! A lot of people talk about the abuse that they get,
:26:43. > :26:48.but my point isn't about the abuse but how unimaginative it is, instead
:26:49. > :26:54.of saying that a referee is a... Why not target the character flaws that
:26:55. > :26:59.made him a referee in the first place? Never in all my years of
:27:00. > :27:02.being a fan had I seen somebody say, you must appreciate that from his
:27:03. > :27:13.perspective it look like a penalty. What I have heard people say is that
:27:14. > :27:18.referee, you are a EXPLETIVE For a referee, it is always lose
:27:19. > :27:24.lose, even if you admit to a mistake, it is too late. It is like
:27:25. > :27:30.having a third child. A referee who likes the limelight, Mark
:27:31. > :27:36.Clattenburg, the players's mate, he's like the drama teacher who
:27:37. > :27:41.asked everyone to call him by his first name, he has tattoos of the
:27:42. > :27:44.big games he has officiated. If that isn't somebody who believes his own
:27:45. > :27:50.hype, I don't know who is, and middle-aged men look ridiculous with
:27:51. > :27:54.tattoos. That is Richard Pryor, my son thinks it is me. We know that we
:27:55. > :28:00.need you, but don't look like you are enjoying it. Safety say that he
:28:01. > :28:03.isn't the biggest fan of referees. Did you ever socialise with
:28:04. > :28:09.referees? Did you ever see a different side to then? I never
:28:10. > :28:11.socialised with them, but once, Graham poll, during a game on
:28:12. > :28:15.Wearside he said that he loves coming to Sunderland because
:28:16. > :28:19.whenever the referee is at the ground, he is the second most hated
:28:20. > :28:25.man, after me at Sunderland. That was after the one bad game I had! He
:28:26. > :28:28.has a good comical side to him. That's good to hear.
:28:29. > :28:31.Just enough time left to have a look at this weekend's fixtures.
:28:32. > :28:34.Manchester United kick things off on Saturday lunchtime with the visit
:28:35. > :28:46.And we'll be taking a closer look at Arsenal next week
:28:47. > :28:49.as Arsene Wenger celebrates 20 years as the Gunners manager.
:28:50. > :28:54.Join us at the same time, next Thursday on BBC2.
:28:55. > :29:00.Thanks to Kevin and thank you for watching.