Images of the Moments That Changed History

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0:00:00 > 0:00:01Wednesday is still going ahead.

0:00:01 > 0:00:05Now on BBC News, Through the Lens.

0:00:11 > 0:00:15Sometimes, history's shaped not over the course of years or decades,

0:00:15 > 0:00:21but in a single day.

0:00:21 > 0:00:24I'm Rebecca Jones and I'm here at the Magnum photo print room

0:00:24 > 0:00:27in London in this special series celebrating the 70th anniversary

0:00:27 > 0:00:31of the agency Magnum photos.

0:00:31 > 0:00:33I'm going to introduce you to some of the world's

0:00:33 > 0:00:39greatest living photographers.

0:00:39 > 0:00:42Coming up, the British photographer who was in Berlin the night

0:00:42 > 0:00:45the wall came down.

0:00:45 > 0:00:48The American who captured the shock and terror of 9/11.

0:00:48 > 0:00:51And the Iranian who wasn't afraid to show the violence on both sides

0:00:51 > 0:00:53of the revolution.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57But first, let's meet Ian Berry he was the only photographer

0:00:57 > 0:01:05to witness the Sharpeville massacre in South Africa in 1960.

0:01:05 > 0:01:11A turning point for the anti-apartheid movement.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14News came through that the police had shot a guy in this township,

0:01:14 > 0:01:19Sharpeville.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22I got there and chatted to the protesters and what have

0:01:23 > 0:01:24you and they were all friendly enough.

0:01:24 > 0:01:31In fact it all seemed a bit dull.

0:01:31 > 0:01:34And I'd more or less given up, I walked back to the car

0:01:34 > 0:01:36and the cops opened fire.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39You can see here that the guy standing on the tank

0:01:39 > 0:01:41in the background, standing on an armoured vehicle,

0:01:41 > 0:01:42and they started to fire.

0:01:42 > 0:01:46And at this point, I saw these kids running towards me and initially

0:01:46 > 0:01:48I thought they were just shooting blanks or shooting over

0:01:48 > 0:01:50the head of people.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53And this guy was holding his jacket up as though to protect

0:01:53 > 0:02:00himself from bullets.

0:02:00 > 0:02:04And only as they started to fall around me did I realise

0:02:04 > 0:02:07that they were shooting real bullets into the back of people.

0:02:07 > 0:02:0870 odd people were dead.

0:02:08 > 0:02:10And the police charged the wounded with an affray.

0:02:10 > 0:02:14And when it came to the court case, I was the only witness.

0:02:14 > 0:02:17The police said they hadn't reloaded, and I had pictures of them

0:02:17 > 0:02:18reloading their automatic weapons.

0:02:18 > 0:02:20They said they'd only fired on the crowd.

0:02:21 > 0:02:23Most of the people were shot in the back.

0:02:23 > 0:02:33As they were running away.

0:02:33 > 0:02:37Anyway, the only good thing was that the wounded,

0:02:37 > 0:02:40the case was dismissed against them.

0:02:40 > 0:02:45In the early days in South Africa it was very difficult to photograph

0:02:45 > 0:02:47the black- white relationships, because, essentially,

0:02:47 > 0:02:51there were none.

0:02:51 > 0:02:54I came across this car and in it was a white child asleep

0:02:54 > 0:03:00on the back-seat and an African nanny, a child herself,

0:03:01 > 0:03:03had been left to look after the baby.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06I'd gone there to work and I kind of accepted in a way,

0:03:06 > 0:03:12I suppose, subconsciously, the way of life there.

0:03:12 > 0:03:24And that picture started me off thinking about South Africa

0:03:24 > 0:03:28and about the politics and really set me off on a path of looking

0:03:28 > 0:03:30at the country through different eyes.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32During the election that brought Mandela to power,

0:03:32 > 0:03:35although I shot a load of stuff on him, somehow this

0:03:35 > 0:03:41was a bit more symbolic.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45He was on his way to a university to speak, and on the way down,

0:03:45 > 0:03:48driving through this town, I saw this enormous poster of him.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51And people climbing up on the poster just to wave to him

0:03:51 > 0:03:58as he went through.

0:03:58 > 0:04:00I was on a white beach in Cape Town.

0:04:00 > 0:04:03It's almost unbelievable, but there were beaches for whites,

0:04:03 > 0:04:05beaches for Africans, and you weren't supposed to be

0:04:05 > 0:04:10an the wrong beach, as it were.

0:04:10 > 0:04:13And I saw this white couple walking along the beach.

0:04:13 > 0:04:16And a couple of Africans sort of fooling around in the background.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19And I kind of thought, wait a second, and if they go past

0:04:19 > 0:04:22and I get the two together, there'll be an incident.

0:04:22 > 0:04:32The whites are going to at least swear at this couple of Africans.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35Anyway, the Africans went by in front and the whites didn't

0:04:35 > 0:04:40say a word.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42And I kind of realised then things were changing fast.

0:04:42 > 0:04:55And it was more or less the end of apartheid.

0:04:55 > 0:04:58Ian Berry whose outsider status enabled him to document sections

0:04:58 > 0:05:00of South African society that others could not.

0:05:00 > 0:05:08Insider knowledge, however, can also give photographs

0:05:08 > 0:05:09a particular potency.

0:05:09 > 0:05:12Between 1978 and 1980, Abbas recorded the revolution in Iran.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14In two pictures the Iranian photographer captured the moment

0:05:14 > 0:05:17a mob attempted to lynch a woman in the street.

0:05:17 > 0:05:25You're photographer, that means you know,

0:05:25 > 0:05:30the historian of the present.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32But you're not shooting for history, your shooting for today.

0:05:33 > 0:05:34It's important when the event is developing.

0:05:34 > 0:05:36That's the difference.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39You have history and you have the history of the present.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42Well, Iran was a genuine revolution, which means a total

0:05:42 > 0:05:47change of regime.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50They knew even when it was happening that only once in my life time,

0:05:50 > 0:05:54you know, I will be not only concerned, but I was also involved,

0:05:54 > 0:05:55at least in the early stages.

0:05:56 > 0:05:57The Shah left the country.

0:05:57 > 0:06:02Bakhtiar was the Prime Minister.

0:06:02 > 0:06:05Khomeini had not arrived yet, so there was a demonstration

0:06:05 > 0:06:12in favour of Bakhtiar and, of course, of the Shah.

0:06:12 > 0:06:14Militants gathered around the stadium and started beating up

0:06:14 > 0:06:16the people coming out.

0:06:16 > 0:06:24Beating them hard.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27Suddenly I see this woman running towards me and being lynched,

0:06:27 > 0:06:29you know, by the mob.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33And of course, again, in a time like this you don't think

0:06:33 > 0:06:33you just shoot.

0:06:33 > 0:06:35So I was running back, shooting.

0:06:35 > 0:06:37And somebody would say, don't take pictures, you know,

0:06:37 > 0:06:40I would always answer in Farsi,

0:06:40 > 0:06:42you know, this is for history.

0:06:42 > 0:06:43As a photographer you shoot.

0:06:43 > 0:06:46But the problem was, should I show this picture then?

0:06:46 > 0:06:48Because in the evening I'd get together with my friends

0:06:48 > 0:06:51and they said, Abbas, you can't show this picture

0:06:51 > 0:06:53because it shows the dark side of the revolution.

0:06:53 > 0:06:56I said, I'm sorry, this might be my country,

0:06:56 > 0:06:58my people in my revolution, but I'm also a journalist,

0:06:59 > 0:07:03which is a historian of the present, so we have to show this picture now.

0:07:03 > 0:07:05And in retrospect I think I was right.

0:07:05 > 0:07:08Because if you look at the faces, you know, lots of the violence

0:07:08 > 0:07:16and the hate that would serve as later on during the revolution

0:07:16 > 0:07:19is already rich in their on the faces of the militants.

0:07:19 > 0:07:23And then the next picture is when, you know, the army intervenes.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25So the woman fence.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27She was carried away, she was saved.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31Then of course I hide my camera, I tried to take a picture

0:07:31 > 0:07:34on the sly, but then this soldier saw me and he came,

0:07:34 > 0:07:38there was a grenade on his gun, he was pushing it to my face.

0:07:38 > 0:07:42As I was afraid, he let it go, if he let it go, I wouldn't be here.

0:07:43 > 0:07:45To him I didn't say, this is for history,

0:07:45 > 0:07:49I just left.

0:07:49 > 0:07:51The day the revolution became victorious, Khomeini had

0:07:51 > 0:07:52headquarters in a school.

0:07:52 > 0:07:54Around the school lots of things were happening.

0:07:54 > 0:08:02So I'm just around there and suddenly I see a mullah in a car

0:08:02 > 0:08:13with a gun in his hand.

0:08:14 > 0:08:15And thought, it really said it all.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17People say, OK, you were a prophet.

0:08:17 > 0:08:18No, but I wasn't...

0:08:18 > 0:08:21Maybe I was a prophet, but I didn't have any

0:08:21 > 0:08:27merit, you know.

0:08:28 > 0:08:30Having covered the Iranians revolution for two years,

0:08:30 > 0:08:32I could see that the wave of religious passion raised

0:08:32 > 0:08:36by Khomeini within Iran was not going to stop at the board of Iran.

0:08:36 > 0:08:38It spread in the Muslim world.

0:08:38 > 0:08:42When it did spread in the Muslim world, it spread all over the world.

0:08:42 > 0:08:44Abbas, a photographer who sees himself as a journalist,

0:08:44 > 0:08:45a historian for the present.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48Mark Power stumbled upon one of the defining moments

0:08:48 > 0:08:51of the 20th century.

0:08:51 > 0:08:54When he was an accidental witness to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

0:08:54 > 0:08:57The British photographer captured the joy and confusion of people

0:08:57 > 0:09:05caught up in that extraordinary event of November 1989.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07Photographs are so powerful that they become the memories

0:09:07 > 0:09:15in themselves.

0:09:15 > 0:09:19So, you know, my memory of Berlin that night is these black

0:09:19 > 0:09:19and white pictures.

0:09:19 > 0:09:23So I flew to Berlin on November nine 1989 with my friend George,

0:09:23 > 0:09:26and we were both really tired, but I'd never been to Berlin before.

0:09:26 > 0:09:28George had.

0:09:28 > 0:09:31I said, look, let's go out, let's go out for a walk.

0:09:31 > 0:09:33So which ambled down to Checkpoint Charlie.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36There seem to be a few people milling about.

0:09:36 > 0:09:40So I asked a fellow what was going on and he said that he'd seen

0:09:40 > 0:09:43something on the news that there's strong possibility that the wall

0:09:43 > 0:09:45would actually be open for passage this evening.

0:09:45 > 0:09:55So I looked at George and he looked at me and we realised we didn't have

0:09:55 > 0:09:59much camera equipment with us, so we got in a taxi and we went back

0:09:59 > 0:10:02to the youth hostel, grabbed all our stuff and went

0:10:02 > 0:10:10straight back to Checkpoint Charlie.

0:10:10 > 0:10:14Bang on midnight, the door right in front of us opened and the first

0:10:14 > 0:10:17East Berlin came through and gave George a big bear hug.

0:10:17 > 0:10:19And a succession of very emotional East Berlins pastors and,

0:10:19 > 0:10:21you know, waiting throng in the West.

0:10:21 > 0:10:23The pictures to show a range of emotions.

0:10:23 > 0:10:26There is a fantastic mixture of jubilation and complete

0:10:26 > 0:10:28the world and.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31The border guards were so bewildered but at the same time quite excited

0:10:31 > 0:10:33by what was going on, they also recognised

0:10:33 > 0:10:43that they were at a momentous point in history.

0:10:43 > 0:10:46That particular picture really does, I think, show quite clearly

0:10:46 > 0:10:48the sense of wonder they were feeling.

0:10:48 > 0:10:51We have to remember that when the Berlin Wall fell

0:10:51 > 0:10:59it was completely unexpected.

0:11:00 > 0:11:10When you're jettisoned to a major news event like that,

0:11:10 > 0:11:13it's hard to know how to react, because let's face it,

0:11:13 > 0:11:17I was there completely by mistake.

0:11:17 > 0:11:21The next day I remember not having much sleep the night before,

0:11:21 > 0:11:27being pretty tired, but walking back to the wall again and,

0:11:27 > 0:11:30amazingly, people were standing and sitting on the wall.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33It seemed very much a matter of defiance, what I was looking at,

0:11:33 > 0:11:36it was quite interesting.

0:11:36 > 0:11:40I think in a way more interesting than the people on the wall

0:11:40 > 0:11:44are the guards at the bottom, you know, contrary to everything

0:11:44 > 0:11:46they've ever been told all believed in, then suddenly this

0:11:46 > 0:11:49is all happening in front of them, what are they supposed

0:11:49 > 0:11:59to do about it?

0:11:59 > 0:12:02It's very rare, isn't it, to be in a major news event

0:12:02 > 0:12:05like that, which is actually a happy thing, you know.

0:12:05 > 0:12:06It's not a tragedy.

0:12:07 > 0:12:09Mark Power, the right person in the right place

0:12:09 > 0:12:16at the right time.

0:12:16 > 0:12:18Remember, you can watch the whole series at BBC.com/throughthelens.

0:12:18 > 0:12:19Now to China.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23And the massacre in Tiananmen Square in 1989 when the Chinese authorities

0:12:23 > 0:12:25crushed the popular movement for democracy in Beijing.

0:12:25 > 0:12:45The former Magnum photos President, Stuart Franklin, was there.

0:12:45 > 0:12:48Coming to the sort of last moments of the event in Tiananmen Square

0:12:48 > 0:12:51in June 1989, I was sort of lying down, squatting down

0:12:51 > 0:12:54and photographing between the kind of balustrades of the balcony.

0:12:54 > 0:12:57And as the tanks rolled through the now cleared crowd,

0:12:57 > 0:12:59a guy, a single guy, white shirt, black trousers,

0:12:59 > 0:13:11two shopping bags, one in each hand, stood in the middle of the road.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13As the row of tanks, the column of tanks, approached.

0:13:13 > 0:13:14I felt very distant.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18In fact, so distant that I thought the picture was really of note

0:13:18 > 0:13:19interest at all particularly.

0:13:19 > 0:13:22On the other hand, I was persuaded by a journalist that this

0:13:22 > 0:13:23was a significant moment.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26It was unusual, you know, in those days in China

0:13:26 > 0:13:28for there to be a mass demonstration.

0:13:28 > 0:13:31In what is still, I think, the largest public square

0:13:31 > 0:13:32in the world.

0:13:32 > 0:13:36The sort of centre of the Chinese state.

0:13:39 > 0:13:43While I was on the balcony trying to photograph the tanks coming down

0:13:43 > 0:13:45the street, actually where I was keen to be

0:13:45 > 0:13:50was in the hospital is trying to understand how many people had

0:13:51 > 0:13:52been either killed or wounded

0:13:52 > 0:13:56the night before.

0:13:56 > 0:13:59At about 2pm some of us managed to leave the hotel and go

0:13:59 > 0:14:04to a couple of hospitals.

0:14:04 > 0:14:07You know, the situation was pretty chaotic, really.

0:14:07 > 0:14:10So what was most noticeable were the rows of young people

0:14:10 > 0:14:12from little mattresses and treated for bullet wounds.

0:14:12 > 0:14:15By being able to get in there and photograph that,

0:14:15 > 0:14:18you know, there was real evidence, material evidence, which is one

0:14:18 > 0:14:21of the challenges of journalists actually trying to tell the story

0:14:21 > 0:14:35of what happened.

0:14:35 > 0:14:39I was going to the square pretty well every day to try and photograph

0:14:40 > 0:14:42the various demonstrations, and one day there was an intense

0:14:42 > 0:14:49summer storm, sort of prophetic dark clouds appeared.

0:14:49 > 0:14:53And then this guy got up on top of one of the balustrades and,

0:14:53 > 0:14:58you know, bore his chest and put his arms up in the air and,

0:14:58 > 0:15:01for me, it was very emotional and a defining moment.

0:15:02 > 0:15:04I felt good about it, I felt it expressed,

0:15:04 > 0:15:06you know, the emotion behind the protest movement

0:15:06 > 0:15:07in China that time.

0:15:07 > 0:15:11I think one of the things that we try to do in news

0:15:11 > 0:15:13photography is to find an image that crystallises the event,

0:15:14 > 0:15:17or the spirit of a series of events in one image.

0:15:26 > 0:15:28As Stuart Franklin said, it was by visiting hospitals

0:15:28 > 0:15:31in Beijing that he discovered the true extent of the Tiananmen

0:15:31 > 0:15:33Square massacre.

0:15:33 > 0:15:37But for the New Yorker Susan Meiselas, there was no need to seek

0:15:37 > 0:15:40out the story, it came to her on the morning of September

0:15:40 > 0:15:44the 11th 2001 when one of the planes that hit the World Trade Center flew

0:15:44 > 0:15:51low over her home.

0:15:51 > 0:15:54So much of history has been shaped by that day.

0:15:54 > 0:15:57Nothing of this scale had happened in New York.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00I actually remember hearing the plane coming very,

0:16:00 > 0:16:03very low over the part of Manhattan where I live,

0:16:03 > 0:16:04Little Italy.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07Riding my bicycle down, I've seen a television programme,

0:16:07 > 0:16:08very unclear what's happened.

0:16:08 > 0:16:13I ride my bike down to that area of New York, I live not that far

0:16:13 > 0:16:15away, and it's one of the first photographs I made,

0:16:15 > 0:16:18just people looking.

0:16:18 > 0:16:21That photograph is really just a passer-by making a souvenir

0:16:21 > 0:16:24photograph of something that at that moment in time we had no idea

0:16:24 > 0:16:27what had happened.

0:16:27 > 0:16:31The first plane had gone into one of the Twin Towers.

0:16:31 > 0:16:35It's this strange photograph for me that marks that everyone

0:16:35 > 0:16:38becomes a photographer.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42This, I think, is very much of its time.

0:16:42 > 0:16:46It stands for a moment in time perhaps.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49I was probably two blocks from the tower when it actually,

0:16:49 > 0:16:51the last real drop of the tower.

0:16:51 > 0:16:56And that led to this massive escape.

0:16:56 > 0:17:00So I was standing still and trying to move closer, as close as I felt

0:17:00 > 0:17:03I could, as people were just racing past me.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06And actually I've tried to reconstruct that photograph,

0:17:07 > 0:17:10I tried to find people who were in that moment of time.

0:17:10 > 0:17:13The photograph of the statue, which many people didn't realise

0:17:13 > 0:17:17when they first saw the photograph was a statue, and I'm not even sure

0:17:17 > 0:17:20I did when I made the photograph, I was focused on the fact

0:17:20 > 0:17:23that there was all this what looks like confetti,

0:17:23 > 0:17:25but were torn up papers and dust filling the air

0:17:26 > 0:17:27as the towers came down.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30And when I looked at Liberty Plaza there was this statue which,

0:17:30 > 0:17:33at the moment, looked so lifelike, it is life-size.

0:17:33 > 0:17:36Of a man burying himself in a briefcase that could have been

0:17:36 > 0:17:37any man at that moment.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40We were all kind of not knowing where our things were,

0:17:40 > 0:17:54what was happening.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57So he kind of personified everyone, and the anxiety everyone had

0:17:57 > 0:17:58at that moment.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01There is a photograph of the firefighters.

0:18:01 > 0:18:05So as I start to pull away and just get some distance on what happened,

0:18:05 > 0:18:08along with the West side Highway, which was completely evacuated,

0:18:08 > 0:18:11no cars, no people, this group of firefighters were retreating

0:18:11 > 0:18:13and probably just regaining confidence to go back,

0:18:13 > 0:18:16no doubt, and they were washing their faces on this fire hydrant.

0:18:16 > 0:18:23They had opened it up and they were just flushing

0:18:23 > 0:18:28their faces and their lungs probably come up with the water.

0:18:28 > 0:18:31I was just struck, they were the real heroes

0:18:31 > 0:18:35of that day.

0:18:35 > 0:18:37This photograph haunts me in a different way,

0:18:37 > 0:18:54the skeleton that remained.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57That's kind of the last memory of that day, these two phenomenal

0:18:57 > 0:19:00towers that every time you flew into New York you would look out,

0:19:01 > 0:19:03you know, the plane, and see them standing

0:19:03 > 0:19:06there at the tip of the island, they were reference points

0:19:06 > 0:19:07from so many points in the city.

0:19:08 > 0:19:10We didn't yet, I mean when I'm making my photograph,

0:19:10 > 0:19:12no idea how that even was possible.

0:19:12 > 0:19:13It was just inconceivable.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16So, you know, everyone took away from that day their own experiences,

0:19:17 > 0:19:20a combination of what they heard them what they saw on television,

0:19:20 > 0:19:22what they saw in books, and what continues to happen

0:19:22 > 0:19:24as a result of that action.

0:19:24 > 0:19:25Susan Meiselas remembering 9/11.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28The German photographer Thomas Dworzak was in Iraq

0:19:28 > 0:19:36during the American led invasion of the country in 2003.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40He's the president of Magnum photos and he captured the emotions

0:19:40 > 0:19:43of Iraqis in the days both before and after the fall of Baghdad.

0:19:43 > 0:19:46Something makes you a good war photographer when you're young

0:19:46 > 0:19:49and eager and crazy.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52And when you get older and you've seen a lot,

0:19:52 > 0:19:54you get more scared and you get more...

0:19:54 > 0:19:55It's not so easy.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58I was in Iraq before the war, it was very controlled,

0:19:58 > 0:20:00it really didn't feel like a very...

0:20:00 > 0:20:01Felt like a scary country.

0:20:01 > 0:20:03People were afraid of making a mistake.

0:20:03 > 0:20:07It was like a couple of months before the war when Saddam suddenly

0:20:07 > 0:20:10decided for I don't remember what reason that this was the day

0:20:10 > 0:20:23of clemency and all the prisoners were allowed everybody

0:20:23 > 0:20:24was allowed out of prisons.

0:20:25 > 0:20:27With criminals in it, all the political prisoners,

0:20:27 > 0:20:30everything, just open up the entire prison, which was this huge,

0:20:30 > 0:20:33I think at the time the biggest prison in the Middle East.

0:20:33 > 0:20:34They just ran out.

0:20:34 > 0:20:35They didn't escape.

0:20:35 > 0:20:39The gates were open and everybody left.

0:20:39 > 0:20:42I think it was surreal because I'd heard about it so much

0:20:42 > 0:20:43and because it had this...

0:20:43 > 0:20:46I never thought I would ever get into it.

0:20:46 > 0:20:48We didn't know anything, anybody if asked, because it

0:20:48 > 0:20:52was so off-limits.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55Right after the fall of Baghdad there was this,

0:20:55 > 0:20:58there were tonnes of Saddam statues, so people went out, they took

0:20:58 > 0:21:02off their shoes and they stood there like it was this never ending

0:21:02 > 0:21:07beating of metal and concrete statues with shower sandals.

0:21:08 > 0:21:09And somebody brought in sledgehammers, they brought

0:21:09 > 0:21:12in the bigger machinery and blew them into pieces.

0:21:12 > 0:21:14The foundation, and then they change them...

0:21:14 > 0:21:17There was a whole ballet of all kinds of things you can do

0:21:17 > 0:21:22with dismantled Saddam statues.

0:21:22 > 0:21:26The fall of Saddam was a relief for people, of course there was no

0:21:26 > 0:21:28plan, of course it all went crazy afterwards.

0:21:28 > 0:21:31But initially there was this, OK, now it's over, thank good.

0:21:31 > 0:21:34So there was definitely a mood of celebration and of course

0:21:34 > 0:21:37there was a lot of looting after and mayhem and chaos,

0:21:37 > 0:21:40but this was right after when the Americans took over one

0:21:40 > 0:21:43of the old palaces.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46When the swimming pool was still there and they have

0:21:46 > 0:21:49recruited some kids on the street who were translators,

0:21:49 > 0:21:50spoke some English.

0:21:50 > 0:21:52This is one of them jumping into the pool.

0:21:52 > 0:21:56This was still a time when Americans would drive around walk around

0:21:56 > 0:21:59Baghdad, I think they had body armour but they had open Humvees,

0:21:59 > 0:22:00nobody was expecting ideas...

0:22:00 > 0:22:02There was still a kind of...

0:22:02 > 0:22:12There was this really post-war relief.

0:22:12 > 0:22:23Didn't last.

0:22:23 > 0:22:28Thomas Dworzak looking back on his time in Iraq.

0:22:28 > 0:22:37To see the rest of the series, do go to BBC.com/ThroughTheLens.