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:00:16. > :00:21.find information on routine operations like hip knee surgery

:00:22. > :00:25.contained significant errors and inconsistencies. Also this

:00:26. > :00:29.lunchtime, Britain is asked to take in more Syrian refugees. The Prime

:00:30. > :00:33.Minister is said to be open-minded about accepting those fleeing the

:00:34. > :00:38.conflict. Crime against households and adults in England and Wales

:00:39. > :00:43.falls to a 33 year low according to The Crime Survey. More than 1400

:00:44. > :00:45.soldiers are to lose their jobs in the latest round of cuts, but

:00:46. > :00:49.Britain's security won't be put at risk, says the government.

:00:50. > :00:52.Britain's battered coasts, how the recent storms have revealed

:00:53. > :01:03.artefacts dating back thousands of years. And 900 years of history

:01:04. > :01:07.comes to an end with the first women's quiet Canterbury Cathedral.

:01:08. > :01:11.Later on BBC London, transport bosses announced plans to use

:01:12. > :01:15.backroom staff to work during the tube strike. And Thames Water says

:01:16. > :01:34.sorry over blocked sewers, after a pumping station is flooded.

:01:35. > :01:40.Good afternoon and welcome to the BBC News at One. Information about

:01:41. > :01:44.waiting times for routine operations such as knee and hip replacements in

:01:45. > :01:48.England is unreliable because of errors and inconsistencies in the

:01:49. > :01:51.way they are compiled. The public spending watchdog says it means

:01:52. > :01:55.patients can't compare the performances of different hospital

:01:56. > :01:58.trusts when they are deciding where to go for treatment. The Department

:01:59. > :02:03.of Health says overall waiting times remain low and they will work with

:02:04. > :02:07.the NHS to ensure more accurate figures. Our health correspondent

:02:08. > :02:12.Branwen Jeffreys reports. Managing with a sore hip is not easy. Sue

:02:13. > :02:16.Walker has been waiting since March last year. Hip replacement needs to

:02:17. > :02:22.be repaired. The operation was finally due to happen this week, so

:02:23. > :02:26.her son took time off to be at home. But at the last minute, when she was

:02:27. > :02:31.in a hospital bed, it was cancelled. The longer it goes on as it is the

:02:32. > :02:35.worse it will get and the more difficult it will be for them to

:02:36. > :02:40.replace. I find it really distressing, because I'm thinking

:02:41. > :02:47.it's going to be even more difficult getting back to normal once I've had

:02:48. > :02:52.the operation, the longer the waiting goes on. There are rules

:02:53. > :02:56.about waiting times in England full stop 90% of patients having a

:02:57. > :03:02.routine operation should get it within 18 weeks. 650 patient records

:03:03. > :03:08.were looked at in detail as part of this investigation. Only 43% were

:03:09. > :03:16.accurate. Most of the mistakes and recorded how long patients waited.

:03:17. > :03:20.Trusts can face tough financial penalties if patients wait too long.

:03:21. > :03:24.This report found people don't know their rights on waiting and

:03:25. > :03:30.hospitals often don't make them clear. But managers insist mistakes

:03:31. > :03:35.in waiting records aren't hiding a bigger problem. There is no

:03:36. > :03:39.suggestion in this report that recordings are deliberate. Hospitals

:03:40. > :03:41.are working flat out to treat patients as quickly as possible.

:03:42. > :03:45.There is some tightening up that needs to be done but patients are

:03:46. > :03:49.getting better car. Labour says this calls into question claims about

:03:50. > :03:55.waiting times. But ministers argue there are fewer people facing very

:03:56. > :03:59.long waits under this government. Almost patients care about is

:04:00. > :04:06.knowing when exactly they can expect their operation.

:04:07. > :04:10.Downing Street says the Prime Minister is open-minded about a cool

:04:11. > :04:15.-- about a call to accept more refugees from the Syrian conflict.

:04:16. > :04:20.The UN is asking Western countries to accept 30,000 reference desk --

:04:21. > :04:24.referee -- refugees. David Cameron said his preference was to support

:04:25. > :04:27.displaced people inside the region. That speaks our chief political

:04:28. > :04:31.correspondent Norman Smith in Westminster. This issue will be

:04:32. > :04:36.debated and voted on in Parliament next week. It is also my senses the

:04:37. > :04:40.decision will be made before then because the mood music emerging from

:04:41. > :04:44.government is that we are poised to accept Syrian refugees, a small

:04:45. > :04:48.number, several hundred, because those around Mr Clegg this morning

:04:49. > :04:55.saying he is confident such a decision will be reached and reached

:04:56. > :04:59."soon" . Those around Mr Cameron say he is open-minded to a change of

:05:00. > :05:03.people can make a compelling case for accepting Syrian refugees and

:05:04. > :05:07.what is driving this is two things. The brutal politics, that vote, with

:05:08. > :05:11.the likelihood of significant of Liberal Democrat and Tory MPs may

:05:12. > :05:15.support the Labour motion but more than that I think is the fear in

:05:16. > :05:19.government circles that they are somehow perceived as the bad guys,

:05:20. > :05:23.when the view in government is actually we have a pretty good story

:05:24. > :05:29.to tell in terms of help for Syrian refugees. We provide more cash than

:05:30. > :05:34.the rest of the EU, we have taken in some 1000 Syrian asylum seekers and

:05:35. > :05:38.I think there's a desire not to be seen in those circumstances to be

:05:39. > :05:42.dragging our feet, or holding out against Syrian refugees. Norman

:05:43. > :05:47.Smith unwed spinster, thank you very much. In Switzerland the United

:05:48. > :05:50.Nations is hoping to pave the way for the first direct talks tomorrow

:05:51. > :05:54.between the Syrian government and opposition since the conflict began

:05:55. > :05:57.three years ago. The mediator is meeting delegations today from both

:05:58. > :06:01.sides separately to try to establish if there is enough common ground for

:06:02. > :06:05.formal negotiations to begin. Our world affairs correspondent Paul

:06:06. > :06:11.Wood is in Geneva and all this after what was a pretty rocky start

:06:12. > :06:14.yesterday. Yes, the hope was under the assumption by the UN was in the

:06:15. > :06:18.building behind me both sides would sit across the table and engage in

:06:19. > :06:22.the kind of direct dialogue. There hasn't been this in three years of

:06:23. > :06:26.civil war. Then we have the opening of the conference yesterday in

:06:27. > :06:28.Montreux. It was always going to be speeches and not direct

:06:29. > :06:33.negotiations, but those speeches were so ill tempered, there was such

:06:34. > :06:37.enmity on display, but news started to filter out from the two

:06:38. > :06:40.delegations they did not think they could sit and talk to each other so

:06:41. > :06:42.delegations they did not think they Lakhdar Brahimi is trying to patch

:06:43. > :06:45.things up and have meetings with both sides and later tonight we

:06:46. > :06:48.should know whether they are going to talk face-to-face. Into this

:06:49. > :06:52.rather toxic mix has been thrown some remarks by Hassan Rouhani, the

:06:53. > :06:56.Iranian president, who was also in Switzerland for the Davos meeting.

:06:57. > :06:59.Each had their should be a Syrian solution in Syria, there should be

:07:00. > :07:02.elections and he doesn't think these talks have much chance of

:07:03. > :07:07.succeeding. Given that Iran is the bankroll and the major support of

:07:08. > :07:10.Syria, a lot of people are wondering whether Iran through its influence

:07:11. > :07:13.on President Assad is going to be the spoiler for these talks. There

:07:14. > :07:18.wasn't much optimism surrounding the meeting tomorrow.

:07:19. > :07:22.Paul Wood, thank you very much. Crime against households and adults

:07:23. > :07:26.in England and Wales has fallen to its lowest level in 33 years, since

:07:27. > :07:30.The Crime Survey began. The survey's figures suggest the number

:07:31. > :07:34.of crimes recorded dropped by 10% in the year to September. The Crime

:07:35. > :07:40.Survey, which estimates levels based on how many people say they have

:07:41. > :07:42.been victims, says there were about 8 million incidents. Separate

:07:43. > :07:46.figures from the police also recorded a drop in overall crime.

:07:47. > :07:50.Our home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw is with me. Give us some more

:07:51. > :07:53.detail about these figures? These figures from The Crime Survey are

:07:54. > :07:57.very interesting because they include crimes that are reported to

:07:58. > :08:01.the police at all and these -- and this survey is independent of the

:08:02. > :08:04.Belize and it has shown that for almost 20 years there has been a

:08:05. > :08:07.near continuous reduction in levels of offending and in the 12 months to

:08:08. > :08:11.the end of September last year compared to the same period the year

:08:12. > :08:16.before The Crime Survey showed that overall offences were down 10%. We

:08:17. > :08:22.saw reductions in burglary, car crime, thefts and also a 13% fall in

:08:23. > :08:25.violence. That is very significant because that takes levels of

:08:26. > :08:31.violence to the lowest since the survey began in 1981. You have the

:08:32. > :08:34.police reported crime figures and the reliability of those has been

:08:35. > :08:39.questioned recently. Yes, there have been concerns these figures are

:08:40. > :08:42.being manipulated all fit -- fiddled and there has been a debate into

:08:43. > :08:46.that and because of that these figures have lost their kitemark

:08:47. > :08:51.awarded by the UK Statistics Authority. But what they show pretty

:08:52. > :08:58.much is similar to the official Crime Survey. Please crime overall

:08:59. > :09:00.is down 3%. We saw how there were some areas where some categories

:09:01. > :09:06.were booking this trend, with shoplifting up in 29 of the 43

:09:07. > :09:12.police forces, fraud was up and sex offences, we saw an increase there

:09:13. > :09:15.of 17% and this was mainly due to more victims coming forward after

:09:16. > :09:19.the Jimmy Savile programme in October 2012, having the courage to

:09:20. > :09:23.report crimes are the police and most of those reports are in fact of

:09:24. > :09:28.historical offences, crimes, sex crimes that date back more than 20

:09:29. > :09:32.years. Danny Shaw, thank you very much.

:09:33. > :09:35.More than 1400 soldiers are to lose their jobs in the latest round of

:09:36. > :09:39.defence cuts. Almost 100 medical posts from the RAF and Navy are also

:09:40. > :09:44.being cut. Soldiers currently serving or about the size in

:09:45. > :09:50.Afghanistan will be exempt. The army -- the Army is cutting the number of

:09:51. > :09:54.regulars from 100,000 to 82000 x 2017 but the number of reservists is

:09:55. > :09:59.being increased. Jonathan Beale in reports.

:10:00. > :10:03.It has been a confusing message. The Army wants to sign a new recruits.

:10:04. > :10:07.Last weekend they were in Nottingham trying to drum up interest but at

:10:08. > :10:12.the same time it's been laying off thousands of troops. Not the easiest

:10:13. > :10:16.sales pitch. It is tough times. There are cuts going on but we still

:10:17. > :10:20.need to replace people who are leaving at the end of their careers.

:10:21. > :10:24.Statement the Secretary of State for defence. This morning the Secretary

:10:25. > :10:27.of State for defence said there will be another round of Dick --

:10:28. > :10:32.redundancies but he said it would be the least painful and the last. I

:10:33. > :10:34.can confirm the overall number of redundancies is required is

:10:35. > :10:38.considerably lower than that predicted in a number of recent

:10:39. > :10:43.press articles and lower than in each of the three previous tranches.

:10:44. > :10:51.It will comprise up to 1425 members of the Army and up to 70 medical and

:10:52. > :10:56.dental officers from the Royal Air Force and up to ten from the Royal

:10:57. > :10:59.Navy. It's all part of the defence cuts that will see the size of the

:11:00. > :11:04.regular Army shrink from about 100,000, to just over 80,000 troops.

:11:05. > :11:08.There have already been three rounds or tranches of redundancies, was

:11:09. > :11:13.last year four point -- with last year 4500 soldiers losing their

:11:14. > :11:17.jobs. This year's tranche of 1400 redundancies should be the final

:11:18. > :11:21.round. It is the beginning of the end of uncertainty for people across

:11:22. > :11:24.defence and in particular the Army, as I'm sat here talking to you.

:11:25. > :11:30.Redundancy is difficult and problematic because that -- at its

:11:31. > :11:36.core is people who we care passionately about, very good

:11:37. > :11:41.people, but we have to do this to get the arm of the right size and

:11:42. > :11:43.the right skills for the future. The Gurkhas will be one of the hardest

:11:44. > :11:47.units hit. Few of them volunteered to leave. Any soldier serving in

:11:48. > :11:52.Afghanistan will be exempt from the process. The Army says this is a

:11:53. > :11:55.last planned round of redundancies but with the Chancellor making clear

:11:56. > :12:05.he wants further cuts in public spending there are no guarantees.

:12:06. > :12:08.A coroner has ruled that there were missed opportunities in the care and

:12:09. > :12:12.treatment of four-year-old boy who died after surgery at Bristol

:12:13. > :12:17.Children's Hospital. Sean Turner died from a brain hemorrhage and

:12:18. > :12:21.other complications in March 20 12, six weeks after he was operated on.

:12:22. > :12:24.The coroner said she had not heard any evidence of gross failures to

:12:25. > :12:28.provide basic care. Our correspondent Duncan Kennedy

:12:29. > :12:32.reports. Football loving, adoring

:12:33. > :12:37.four-year-old. It was how Sean Turner's parents described the

:12:38. > :12:41.little boy. In March last year he was admitted to Bristol's children's

:12:42. > :12:45.hospital with severe heart problems. But the inquest was told that after

:12:46. > :12:49.only 18 hours in intensive care he was returned to a cardiac ward

:12:50. > :12:54.because of pressures on beds and staff. His parents say they pleaded

:12:55. > :13:02.for Sean to be returned to the ICU unit. We begged for four days to go

:13:03. > :13:05.back to intensive care but nobody listened. They seemed to make

:13:06. > :13:09.observations on Shaun Batt were quite worrying and then walk away

:13:10. > :13:13.and do nothing. The nursing staff particularly in the night, you

:13:14. > :13:18.couldn't find a nurse to help you. We felt we were caring for him by

:13:19. > :13:23.ourselves. He was sent back to intensive care but died four weeks

:13:24. > :13:26.later after a massive lead in his brain. Today, a coroner recorded

:13:27. > :13:31.what is called a narrative conclusion after a week-long inquest

:13:32. > :13:33.into Sean's death. She said there had been lost opportunities in the

:13:34. > :13:39.medical treatment the four-year-old had received. Speaking for the

:13:40. > :13:42.family their lawyer said there was a lack of leadership, accountability

:13:43. > :13:47.and communication. Yellow bobbing in our opinion Sean was in the wrong

:13:48. > :13:52.hospital with the wrong surgeon. We have to try to rebuild our lives

:13:53. > :13:56.without our little boy. The Bristol children's heart unit is facing

:13:57. > :13:59.legal action over at least ten cases in which children have died or were

:14:00. > :14:04.left severely damaged after care at the hospital since 2008. The

:14:05. > :14:09.hospital authorities today said they had made changes since the case of

:14:10. > :14:12.Sean Turner. The inquest has also highlighted some missed

:14:13. > :14:15.opportunities in the care we gave to shore when managing his

:14:16. > :14:19.post-operative computations and in our communication with the family. I

:14:20. > :14:23.would like to offer my sincere apologies to Mr and Mrs Turner for

:14:24. > :14:28.the additional distress we have caused them in relation to Sean's

:14:29. > :14:33.death. Sean's parents may join the calls of other families for a public

:14:34. > :14:36.enquiry into what went on at this Children's Hospital. As part of

:14:37. > :14:51.their grieving process. For the boy who loved life. Car production in

:14:52. > :14:54.the UK has hit a six-year high. The Society of Motor Manufacturers and

:14:55. > :14:58.Traders says more than1.5 million cars were made last year - that's

:14:59. > :15:06.one every 20 seconds. Our industry correspondent John Moylan reports.

:15:07. > :15:10.At Jaguar Land Rover's planned in Solihull, they have never been

:15:11. > :15:20.busier. Demand is soaring around the world. The last two years was about

:15:21. > :15:24.replacing the range Rover sport. We hired 2000 people. Going forward we

:15:25. > :15:30.will be launching a new architecture, new Jaguar products on

:15:31. > :15:37.the Solihull site. We will hire 1700 people this year and spend money

:15:38. > :15:43.making it happen. Jaguar Land Rover is a genuine success story. Its

:15:44. > :15:49.fortunes have been transformed over the past five years. It posted

:15:50. > :15:55.global sales of almost 20%. It is part of the reason why in 2013, UK

:15:56. > :16:03.car production grew by more than 3%. It means more than 1.5 million cars

:16:04. > :16:10.were built in Britain. That is back at prerecession levels, the highest

:16:11. > :16:14.volume since 2007. But there were losers. At Vauxhall's els near Port

:16:15. > :16:19.plans, they build the Astra sport. Its biggest market is Germany but

:16:20. > :16:27.the weakness in that economy has hit sales. Production also fell at

:16:28. > :16:32.Honda. What we are seeing in Europe is a gradual and slower recovery

:16:33. > :16:37.from the recession. In 2013, the last three or four months saw an

:16:38. > :16:41.increase in demand for new cars. If that continues the impact on UK

:16:42. > :16:47.production will be positive as we will be exporting more cars into

:16:48. > :16:51.Europe as their economies recover. In Solihull, this success has given

:16:52. > :16:59.local suppliers the confidence to expand, and with plans to hire 400

:17:00. > :17:05.new staff and with growth in the sector, there could be record levels

:17:06. > :17:09.of car sales in 2014. Our top story this lunchtime:

:17:10. > :17:12.Patients in England are told they can't trust figures on hospital

:17:13. > :17:13.waiting times - a health watchdog said they contain significant errors

:17:14. > :17:22.and inconsistencies. And still to come: Jones has put it

:17:23. > :17:29.over. More misery for Manchester United. They crash out of the

:17:30. > :17:34.capital cup and slide down football's Rich list.

:17:35. > :17:37.Later on BBC London: Surgeons at St Georges are offering patients with

:17:38. > :17:40.deep vein thrombosis new hope. And we speak to Hollywood actress,

:17:41. > :17:47.Angela Lansbury - returning to the London stage after nearly 40 years.

:17:48. > :17:50.The coast of Wales being battered during the winter storms earlier

:17:51. > :17:55.this month. The huge waves that crashed on shore didn't just damage

:17:56. > :17:59.seaside resorts. A four-mile stretch of coastline near Tywyn in Cardigan

:18:00. > :18:02.Bay was so altered by the sea that it's been pushed back 50 feet. But

:18:03. > :18:08.damage has brought with it some surprises. The new coastline has

:18:09. > :18:11.revealed artefacts from World War II and even ancients forests with the

:18:12. > :18:23.remains of trees dating back 6,000 years. Richard Lister is in Tywyn.

:18:24. > :18:29.This looks like the classic winter beach scene, complete with the

:18:30. > :18:33.gales. But beneath those waves lie the newly exposed remnants of a

:18:34. > :18:36.forest not seen for thousands of years and at low tide, all is

:18:37. > :18:42.revealed. These days, the people of Tywyn are

:18:43. > :18:46.waking up to a view that is different than what they are used

:18:47. > :18:51.to. The winter storms has taken this part of the Welsh coast back to the

:18:52. > :18:56.Stone Age revealing a fossil forest with ancient stumps and fallen tree

:18:57. > :19:02.trunks. Local archaeologists it is a rare opportunity to step back 6000

:19:03. > :19:09.years and examine the landscape walked up by the first people who

:19:10. > :19:13.lived here. We can get a tiny fragments of ancient peat. But we

:19:14. > :19:20.can see the spatial extent. We can see how big the tree stumps were. We

:19:21. > :19:23.can see how they were spaced and get a clearer picture of what the

:19:24. > :19:28.ancient landscape was like. Antlers from a red deer were also exposed,

:19:29. > :19:33.more evidence of the forest that was here when the shoreline was miles

:19:34. > :19:39.away. This photo taken last year shows how much has changed, creating

:19:40. > :19:45.a new attraction. The beach has been as busy as some of the days in the

:19:46. > :19:50.summer. Local schools ring me up if I can arrange the local tides so

:19:51. > :19:56.they can bring the kids to see this. It is starting to cover over. Maybe

:19:57. > :20:01.within a week or two it will be back to just sound like it was before.

:20:02. > :20:06.More recent history has been revealed like these tank tracks and

:20:07. > :20:11.when it was a wartime training area, and these remnants of peat cutting

:20:12. > :20:17.and possibly medieval fish traps. Nobody is sure, but now they are

:20:18. > :20:25.visible. It would have been hard to know this sweep of beach was a dense

:20:26. > :20:30.woodland as the ice age receded. But what the storms have revealed is it

:20:31. > :20:36.has given new life to the slice of ancient Welsh history. What the C

:20:37. > :20:40.Gibbs, it also takes away. It won't be too long before these historical

:20:41. > :20:45.treasures buried again. Some of the forest that was visible

:20:46. > :20:50.a few days ago has been covered in sand and other bits are being broken

:20:51. > :20:56.of either porosity of the waves. If you do want to come and see what is

:20:57. > :21:01.here, make it quick. An alleged victim of the veteran DJ,

:21:02. > :21:05.Dave Lee Travis has told a court he pinned her up against a wall while

:21:06. > :21:08.presenting his Radio 1 show and assaulted her when she was aged 17.

:21:09. > :21:11.He denies 13 counts of indecent assault and one of sexual assault.

:21:12. > :21:16.Our correspondent, Jon Brain was in court.

:21:17. > :21:21.Tell us more about what was said first remark this woman said she had

:21:22. > :21:26.met DLT on a couple of occasions and there had never been any problem.

:21:27. > :21:30.One afternoon she was near his studio when he was presenting his

:21:31. > :21:35.programme. He invited her in to choose the next record. When she got

:21:36. > :21:40.into the studio he turned the main light off and got her to dance with

:21:41. > :21:45.him. She said his embrace was getting tighter until she realised

:21:46. > :21:49.he had become aroused. She said she was horrified, was a virgin and

:21:50. > :21:55.never been touched like this before. She tried to get out and pin her

:21:56. > :22:01.against a wall and would not let her go, put his hand up her skirt. She

:22:02. > :22:04.said she did not complain because DJs like Dave Lee Travis at that

:22:05. > :22:08.time were considered demigods, it was all about audience ratings.

:22:09. > :22:13.Someone like I would never have had a complaint -- chants with a

:22:14. > :22:19.complaint like that. She only came forward when complaints against

:22:20. > :22:24.Jimmy Savile came out. She said she went to the BBC then in 2012 and she

:22:25. > :22:27.was told we not taking calls of that nature.

:22:28. > :22:31.Anti-government protestors who've been clashing with police in the

:22:32. > :22:35.Ukrainian capital, Kiev, have agreed to hold a truce for a few hours

:22:36. > :22:39.while talks take place between the president and opposition leaders. At

:22:40. > :22:41.least two people have died in the violence which broke out on

:22:42. > :22:43.least two people have died in the From Kiev, here's our correspondent

:22:44. > :22:47.Daniel Sandford. More fuel for the burning barricades

:22:48. > :22:52.of Keir will stop what started as a pro-European union protest, has

:22:53. > :22:55.become a revolutionary movements, trying to bring down the Ukrainian

:22:56. > :23:01.government. Hidden behind this curtain of thick, black smoke from

:23:02. > :23:07.the burning tyres, are rows of riot police guarding the hill that leads

:23:08. > :23:13.up to Ukraine's national parliament. At times it resembles

:23:14. > :23:21.medieval warfare with catapults. And priests fraying as the fires burn.

:23:22. > :23:25.The conflict has casualties. This 17-year-old was captured by the

:23:26. > :23:29.police and claims he was severely beaten as he walked through a long

:23:30. > :23:35.tally of riot officers. He said he was stripped naked and cut with

:23:36. > :23:38.knives. TRANSLATION: their eyes were shining

:23:39. > :23:44.like drug addicts. They were enjoying beating me. They said it

:23:45. > :23:48.was for their colleague who has been in a coma for nearly two months. On

:23:49. > :23:52.the barricades, a group of men with fireworks stood ready like an

:23:53. > :23:56.artillery battery. I asked what they were trying to achieve by the

:23:57. > :24:00.violence. TRANSLATION: domain name is the

:24:01. > :24:07.liberation of the nation. As long as I have been alive we have always

:24:08. > :24:11.been repressed. If we can get along with Europe, that is good. The use

:24:12. > :24:18.of plastic bullets by the police has infuriated testers. Europe, please

:24:19. > :24:24.get help us get rid of the President, this woman said. The

:24:25. > :24:29.Ukrainian president said a compromise with the opposition is

:24:30. > :24:37.possible. But he said what he called anti constitutional activity should

:24:38. > :24:43.stop. Then, one of the opposition leaders, the former world boxing

:24:44. > :24:47.champion, Vitali Klitschko managed to negotiate a truce at the front

:24:48. > :24:53.line. Nobody knows how long that will hold.

:24:54. > :24:58.Manchester United's miserable season got even worse last night, with a

:24:59. > :24:59.penalty shoot-out defeat to Sunderland in the Capital Cup semi

:25:00. > :25:03.final. And this morning - more bad news for

:25:04. > :25:06.Man U as it dropped out of the top three in Deloitte's football rich

:25:07. > :25:09.list for the first time. Now there are serious doubts as to whether

:25:10. > :25:10.they'll get a Champions League spot. Our sports correspondent Andy Swiss

:25:11. > :25:14.reports. It was a night that summed up their

:25:15. > :25:16.season. With a Wembley final at stake, Manchester United's nerve

:25:17. > :25:21.crumbled inspect tacky love fashion. One of the worst penalty shoot outs

:25:22. > :25:25.in memory. Handing Sunderland victory and United's critics another

:25:26. > :25:30.field day. As Sir Alex Ferguson watched on, his successor could only

:25:31. > :25:37.reflect on another grim results. We did not play that well. I we have

:25:38. > :25:42.laid well in some games are not have the rewards. That is football. We

:25:43. > :25:49.will get on with it. For The Reds, they have had a horrible case of the

:25:50. > :25:52.January blues. First the FA Cup against Swansea, they lost that.

:25:53. > :25:57.Then defeat to Chelsea effectively ended their Premier League hopes.

:25:58. > :26:01.And now they will end the season trophy less. The only good news, the

:26:02. > :26:09.expected signing of Chelsea midfielder, Juan Mata ?437 million a

:26:10. > :26:13.club record. The last minute they scored that goal and they could have

:26:14. > :26:18.won, I just think Alex Ferguson going, they have gone down.

:26:19. > :26:25.Shocking. Confidence is at an all-time low. They are missing a

:26:26. > :26:30.whole midfield and defence. But their rivals are now catching them

:26:31. > :26:34.off the pitch as well. For the first time ever they have dropped out of

:26:35. > :26:38.the top three of Europe's biggest earning clubs. If they start failing

:26:39. > :26:45.to qualify for the champions league, their problems could grow.

:26:46. > :26:50.Problems on the pitch is only short-term, it is only if it goes

:26:51. > :26:53.into a matter of months and years, then it might have an impact.

:26:54. > :27:01.Greater Manchester Police revealed one supporter dialled 999 and mass

:27:02. > :27:05.to speak to Sir Alex Ferguson. They pointed out that it wasn't an

:27:06. > :27:13.emergency, but for Manchester United, the pain is for all to see.

:27:14. > :27:15.For 900 years the choir at Canterbury Cathedral has been

:27:16. > :27:18.male-only. But that tradition is about to change. This weekend the

:27:19. > :27:20.Cathedral's first girls' choir will perform at an Evensong service. Our

:27:21. > :27:23.correspondent, John Maguire has been to see them rehearse for their big

:27:24. > :27:36.debut. They have only been together since

:27:37. > :27:42.November, but just listen to this. SINGING.

:27:43. > :27:50.They are just two days away from making history. It is a good

:27:51. > :27:55.opportunity. It is scary. Being the first girls in a quiet, big

:27:56. > :27:59.expectations. The first time will be exciting, but quite a bit of

:28:00. > :28:05.pressure. The male choir house to sing every day, the girls will not

:28:06. > :28:10.have that level of commitment, but if they are in any doubt of their

:28:11. > :28:14.responsibilities, look at this. They are being interviewed by the

:28:15. > :28:19.international media, and that is before singing in public. It is only

:28:20. > :28:24.20 years since the first women priests in the church of England and

:28:25. > :28:30.so far, no female bishops, so are the voices of girls in the choir

:28:31. > :28:33.stalls overdue? I think the sound we are producing with the boys and this

:28:34. > :28:39.choir of girls, there will be different sounds. No doubt in the

:28:40. > :28:43.future they will sing together, but we can achieve diversity of musical

:28:44. > :28:49.sounds, which we have had already developing. The girls have only met

:28:50. > :28:53.a few times, but their director believes they have made huge

:28:54. > :28:59.progress. It was no surprise to find they sang very well together indeed.

:29:00. > :29:03.Hopefully they will take gone a bit more in the Cathedral and possibly

:29:04. > :29:07.away from the cathedral. Concerts, and going on tour and possibly

:29:08. > :29:18.making a recording in the future. Who knows?

:29:19. > :29:22.SINGING. Musically, this choir will provide a

:29:23. > :29:27.new sound for Canterbury Cathedral when this particular group makes

:29:28. > :29:34.history. No mean feat when you consider choral music here dates

:29:35. > :29:39.back almost 1000 years. Now time for the weather.

:29:40. > :29:48.Plenty of rain in the forecast. This in the Atlantic is heading our way.

:29:49. > :29:54.We saw some rain earlier, but there is something brighter behind. So

:29:55. > :29:58.there are spells of sunshine to be found, but equally, a scattering of

:29:59. > :30:03.showers. The showers will be heavy in the north and the west of the

:30:04. > :30:06.country. A few showers drifting through the Midlands and getting

:30:07. > :30:10.towards London in the afternoon. Many places enjoying sunshine.

:30:11. > :30:16.Temperatures peaking at eight or nine degrees. Into the second part

:30:17. > :30:22.of the afternoon and evening, skies stay clear for longest across the

:30:23. > :30:27.northern part of the UK. A risk of ice in Scotland. The further west,

:30:28. > :30:33.we have cloud, wind and rain moving in. It turns temporarily to snow

:30:34. > :30:37.across Scotland. Cold in the east by dawn. Temperatures down to freezing

:30:38. > :30:41.or just below for towns and cities. Tomorrow will be about the rain.

:30:42. > :30:46.Rainfall amounts are not huge but amber warnings have been issued for

:30:47. > :30:50.Somerset Levels because of ongoing flood levels. The rain will be

:30:51. > :30:56.heaviest in the south-west of the UK. The rain is showing its hand in

:30:57. > :31:01.the London area at 8am. In East Anglia it is cold and dry.

:31:02. > :31:08.Elsewhere, there is a fair bit of rain around. Actual rainfall amounts

:31:09. > :31:12.will not be huge, a little bit of snow across Scotland. Rainfall will

:31:13. > :31:19.be not huge, but it will be dull and down. Rain always heaviest in the

:31:20. > :31:23.South and West, but with the wind in the north of the UK it will feel

:31:24. > :31:29.cold. Some of us will get it towards the double figure mark, but for most

:31:30. > :31:33.it is only four, five or possibly six degrees. The rain is gone by

:31:34. > :31:39.Saturday morning. So for the southern half of the UK it is a

:31:40. > :31:45.reasonable start. But for the North, bands of rain sweeping south. The

:31:46. > :31:50.rain clears away to the south-east through the evening and then it

:31:51. > :31:54.turns cold to start on Sunday. But low pressure is heading our way. It

:31:55. > :31:55.will be windy, gales or severe gales and we