15/10/2012

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:00:13. > :00:18.Today, we're in Edinburgh, where a deal is done to hold a referendum

:00:18. > :00:21.on Scottish independence. The agreement was signed after weeks of

:00:21. > :00:26.negotiation by David Cameron and by Scotland's First Minister, Alex

:00:26. > :00:31.Salmond. It paves the way, of course, for the most important

:00:31. > :00:38.decision that our country of Scotland has made in several

:00:38. > :00:42.hundred years. Both sides agree that there'll be a simple yes /no

:00:42. > :00:45.question, before the vote takes place at the end of 2014.

:00:45. > :00:48.passionately believe Scotland will be better off in the UK, but

:00:48. > :00:51.crucially that the UK will be better off with Scotland. We are

:00:51. > :00:56.better together. We are stronger together. We are safer together.

:00:56. > :01:01.Also on tonight's programme: A mother and four children killed in

:01:01. > :01:05.a house fire. Police are treating the blaze as suspicious.

:01:05. > :01:11.Firefighters say the temperature inside reached 1,000 degrees.

:01:11. > :01:16.Friends describe a close-knit family. Two boys and a girl died at

:01:16. > :01:20.the scene. A fourth child died in hospital. Arriving for specialist

:01:20. > :01:28.medical treatment, the teenage girl shot by the Taliban because she

:01:28. > :01:38.wanted an education. And the continuing on/off saga of the West

:01:38. > :01:40.

:01:40. > :01:50.Paula Radcliffe says she will not retire, despite losing her fund

:01:50. > :02:03.

:02:03. > :02:07.A very good evening. We are live in Edinburgh, where David Cameron and

:02:07. > :02:13.Alex Salmond have signed an historic agreement to hold a

:02:13. > :02:15.referendum on Scottish independence. The terms were formally approved

:02:15. > :02:18.here at St Andrew's House - the headquarters of the Scottish

:02:18. > :02:23.Government T referendum will take place before the end of 2014 and

:02:23. > :02:28.will ask voters to answer a single question - a straight yes or no to

:02:28. > :02:32.independence. The deal allows 16 and 17-year-olds to take part in

:02:32. > :02:35.the ballot. The Prime Minister and First Minister have both pledged to

:02:35. > :02:38.respect the final result, a result which could have immense

:02:38. > :02:44.implications for the rest of the United Kingdom, as our political

:02:44. > :02:48.editor reports. Does today mark a new dawn for

:02:48. > :02:53.Scotland? The day when this country took a first important step towards

:02:53. > :02:58.independence, or just the start of a long political battle which may

:02:58. > :03:04.change nothing? One man claims to be in no doubt. Alex Salmond thinks

:03:04. > :03:10.fellow Scots have nothing to fear from voting to go it alone. What a

:03:10. > :03:16.beautiful day, but we're not scared. David Cameron believes Scots have

:03:16. > :03:21.plenty to be scared about. He came to Rosyth to stand on top of a none

:03:21. > :03:25.too subtle symbol - a new aircraft carrier being built for the Royal

:03:25. > :03:28.Navy in a Scottish dockyard. This is a success story that the whole

:03:28. > :03:34.of the United Kingdom can take pride in. One thing they agree on

:03:34. > :03:38.is a need for a vote which everyone on all sides can respect. David

:03:38. > :03:43.Cameron and Alex Salmond meet today as two leaders in one United

:03:43. > :03:48.Kingdom. They both know they could in future meet as leaders of two

:03:48. > :03:52.foreign nations. It is the voters of Scotland who will decide, thanks

:03:52. > :03:56.to an agreement which transfers the legal power to hold a referendum

:03:56. > :04:00.from the Parliament in Westminster to the Parliament in Edinburgh. The

:04:00. > :04:05.two men have agreed on a simple yes/"no" vote on independence. No

:04:05. > :04:09.other question will be asked. They have agreed it must be held before

:04:09. > :04:16.December, 2014. Scotland's First Minister believes we're witnessing

:04:16. > :04:20.history in the making. And it paves the way of course for the most

:04:20. > :04:26.important decision that our country of Scotland has made in several

:04:26. > :04:33.hundred years. It's a decision with major implications for the people

:04:33. > :04:36.of Accrington as well as Aberdeen. This is the year in which Andy

:04:37. > :04:42.Murray and Chris Hoy wrapped themselves up in the Union Jack.

:04:42. > :04:45.Why do you want to rip it up? don't want to rip anything up.

:04:45. > :04:49.We're not in the business of ripping things up. We're in the

:04:50. > :04:53.business of developing a new relationship between the people of

:04:53. > :04:57.these islands. I think a more independent relationship. That is

:04:57. > :05:01.what we're trying to build. People will not be able to vote for what

:05:01. > :05:07.many say they want. More powers for Scotland, whilst staying within the

:05:07. > :05:10.UK. David Cameron saw that as an attempt to fudge the real choice.

:05:10. > :05:14.want to be the Prime Minister that keeps the United Kingdom together.

:05:14. > :05:18.I believe in showing respect to people of Scotland. They voted for

:05:18. > :05:23.a party that wanted to have a referendum on independence. I've

:05:23. > :05:27.made sure showing them respect that we can have that referendum, in a

:05:27. > :05:31.way that is decisive, legal, that is fair. The agreement reached

:05:31. > :05:35.today heralds two years of fierce political disagreement to come.

:05:35. > :05:39.Only one of the two leaders who shock hands in Edinburgh today can

:05:39. > :05:43.win. Either David Cameron will be the last Prime Minister of a United

:05:44. > :05:52.Kingdom or Alex Salmond will be the first nationalist, forced to admit

:05:52. > :05:56.that his people have rejected independence. Well then, that two-

:05:56. > :06:00.year referendum campaign, in effect starts right now. Those expressing

:06:00. > :06:04.their view in 2014 will include young people who will be voting for

:06:04. > :06:10.the very first time. What is their view of independence today? What is

:06:11. > :06:16.the mood among the wider electorate about Scotland's future?

:06:16. > :06:21.It is known as the heart of Scotland, and Stirling's political

:06:21. > :06:25.landscape mirrors that of the wider Scottish electorate w the long-

:06:25. > :06:30.running debate over independence dividing opinion, even within

:06:30. > :06:39.families. I will vote for independence. I can still be

:06:39. > :06:43.persuaded both ways. I am currently a unionist. Scotland has the

:06:43. > :06:46.education, the welfare and the attitude. We can make a lot more of

:06:46. > :06:51.that as an independent nation than we can as part of the United

:06:51. > :06:54.Kingdom. Ing a graualure is a big part of

:06:54. > :07:04.the economy and while farmers here think the SNP has done well in

:07:04. > :07:07.Government, it seemed unconvinced about independence. The SNP has

:07:07. > :07:11.done well agricultural side. It is a petty they are determined to

:07:11. > :07:17.divorce, as it were. I don't know if independence is the way to go.

:07:17. > :07:21.Yes, if we get a loyal revenue that sound good. We'll also get a chunk

:07:21. > :07:25.of the national debt. Around one- third of voters are in favour of

:07:25. > :07:29.independence. That leaves a large swathe of the population undecided.

:07:29. > :07:37.There are some really complex issues they will have to grapple

:07:37. > :07:40.with ahead of that vote. Will Scotland be richer or poorer if it

:07:40. > :07:44.became independent? How would the national debt be divided up? How

:07:44. > :07:50.would the Armed Forces be split? Could an independent Scotland

:07:50. > :07:53.remain a member of the EU? If you ask, have people engaged with these

:07:53. > :07:56.issues - I think the answer is no. They have thought about them a

:07:56. > :08:01.little bit. In that sense there are a lot of issues that people have

:08:01. > :08:06.not thought about yet. 16 and 17 year olds will, for the first time,

:08:06. > :08:10.get to vote. It is a close fight - their voices could make a

:08:10. > :08:14.difference. 16 and 17-year-olds they are mature and stuff, but they

:08:14. > :08:18.don't know enough about politics. All the policies will affect

:08:18. > :08:23.everyone. Surely it should be like, it would be fair for us to have a

:08:23. > :08:30.say on what's going on in our own lives. In two years' time Scots

:08:30. > :08:34.will have their skai on whether 300 years of -- say on whether 300

:08:35. > :08:39.years of union. With me here in Edinburgh is the

:08:39. > :08:44.BBC Scotland political editor. You have followed this in such detail,

:08:44. > :08:48.the negotiations have gone on for a while, we've had the formal

:08:48. > :08:52.handshake today - when you looked at the words of the agreement, what

:08:52. > :08:58.struck you? We have the rules and the regulations for the referendum.

:08:58. > :09:02.That sound dry and dull - it is not. There is more to it than that. The

:09:02. > :09:06.Governments by agreeing the rules and regulations, are also agreeing

:09:06. > :09:10.they will respect the outcome, whatever it is. In fact it is not

:09:10. > :09:14.just implicit, it is explicit n the final paragraph of that agreement,

:09:14. > :09:17.they say clearly that both Governments agree to accept the

:09:17. > :09:22.mandate of the Scottish people. That means that David Cameron is

:09:22. > :09:25.accepting he is taking a calculated risk and accepting the people of

:09:25. > :09:28.Scotland can say no to the union, yes to independence and he will

:09:28. > :09:32.have to work with that. It means Alex Salmond is accepting that

:09:32. > :09:35.should the people of Scotland vote to stay with the Union, he accepts

:09:35. > :09:42.that and works with it, works with the grain. If you like, today is

:09:42. > :09:48.about momentum. It is about the political process being concluded

:09:48. > :09:51.and passed over into the hands of the Scottish people. Good thank.

:09:51. > :09:55.More from Edinburgh later in the programme. Back to you.

:09:55. > :10:01.Thank you. Four children and their mother have

:10:01. > :10:04.died after a house fire in Essex. The children's father, Abdul

:10:04. > :10:07.Shakour, a doctor at a local hospital, fought to save his family

:10:07. > :10:14.and is now being treated in hospital. Our correspondent is at

:10:14. > :10:17.the scene for us in Harlow. George, this is a very sombre

:10:17. > :10:21.neighbourhood tonight and the shock has been made that much worse with

:10:22. > :10:28.the idea that this fire may have been started deliberately.

:10:28. > :10:33.All but one of the people in this photograph is now dead. Sabah

:10:33. > :10:36.Usmani was mother to Haris Sohail, Rayyan, who was six and nine-year-

:10:36. > :10:41.old Muneeb. Only the youngest daughter survived. Abdul Shakour,

:10:41. > :10:46.who is a doctor was in the house too. Police say he fought bravely,

:10:46. > :10:51.in terrible conditions, to save his family. He is being treated for

:10:51. > :10:55.severe smoke inhalation. Scorched walls and blackened windows tell

:10:55. > :10:59.the story. Rescue teams described it as incredibly intense, but

:10:59. > :11:03.spread quickly. One of the reasons, police believe it may have been set

:11:03. > :11:07.deliberately. I pledge to use whatever resources are necessary to

:11:07. > :11:13.find out exactly what has happened and, if appropriate, bring those

:11:13. > :11:17.responsible to justice. We do believe the answers to this

:11:17. > :11:21.inquiry could lie within the local community of Harlow, who we are

:11:21. > :11:25.encouraging to come forward and speak with us.

:11:25. > :11:29.Fire crews, with braething apparatus, fought their way through

:11:29. > :11:33.intense heat to retrieve those trapped. Outside, they tried to

:11:33. > :11:37.resuscitate them. Three of the children and the mother died at the

:11:37. > :11:42.scene. A fourth child died in hospital. Barn Mead is a quiet

:11:42. > :11:48.street in Harlow. Last night, it witnessed an inferno. Essex Fire

:11:48. > :11:53.and Rescue were called at 1.43am. Fire crews were on the scene three

:11:53. > :11:58.minutes later. They found the building well alight and nearby a

:11:58. > :12:02.Ford Focus car was on fire and with it some luggage also burning.

:12:02. > :12:07.fire is, where life is lost, is traumatic. Where it is a high loss

:12:07. > :12:11.of life, particularly children, it is awful. The crews fought through

:12:11. > :12:18.punishing conditions. We have talking temperatures in excess of

:12:18. > :12:22.1,000 degrees. This was an exceptionally hot fire. Friends of

:12:22. > :12:27.the family too are trying to deal with the trauma of what happened to

:12:27. > :12:33.Sabah Usmani and her children. was very kind and gentle. That's

:12:33. > :12:39.why I'm very shocked about what happened to them. All the family is

:12:39. > :12:44.gone. The burnt-out car has now been removed as part of what will

:12:44. > :12:49.be a prolonged and intensive examination into how this fire

:12:49. > :12:54.started and who was responsible. Well, tonight Dr Shakour, who has

:12:54. > :12:59.lost five members of his family, is described as deeply traumatised.

:12:59. > :13:03.Police say there is no evidence at this stage it was a racist attack.

:13:03. > :13:07.This is still a very early stage of the investigation. The Pakistani

:13:07. > :13:11.teenage whore was shot in the head by the Taliban because she --

:13:11. > :13:15.teenager who was shot in the head by the Taliban because she

:13:15. > :13:18.campaigned for education for girls has arrived in Britain. She is

:13:18. > :13:22.being treated at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham.

:13:22. > :13:28.From there our correspondent reports. After almost a week of

:13:28. > :13:32.emergency treatments at a military hospital in ralpin di Malala

:13:32. > :13:37.Yousafzai arrives here in Britain. The decision finally taken she was

:13:37. > :13:42.stable enough for the long journey. The air ambulance touched down in

:13:42. > :13:46.Birmingham this afternoon. She was soon on her way to a specialist

:13:46. > :13:50.hospital in the city. The Queen Elizabeth Hospital treats British

:13:50. > :13:55.soldiers, wounded in places like Afghanistan.

:13:55. > :14:00.She will be assessed here by a range of specialists, including

:14:00. > :14:05.neurosurgery, imaging specialists and other teams. She has come here

:14:05. > :14:10.for the expertise we have. Malala Yousafzai was well known for

:14:10. > :14:16.speaking out against the Pakistan Taliban. In particular its campaign

:14:16. > :14:20.to stop girls going to school in her home region, the Swat Valley.

:14:20. > :14:25.She started to write a diary for the BBC Three years ago when the

:14:25. > :14:32.Taliban controlled the valley. Last week, the militants took their

:14:32. > :14:35.revenge, shooting her in the head. The attack has sparked angry

:14:35. > :14:45.demonstrations in Pakistan. People here and around the world,

:14:45. > :14:58.

:14:58. > :15:04.horrified at the targeting of such There has been an attempt to close

:15:04. > :15:10.down that area. We will try to ensure young people have a proper

:15:11. > :15:15.education and in supporting Malala. What William Hague also emphasise

:15:15. > :15:19.is that the Pakistan Government will pay for all of Malala's

:15:19. > :15:25.treatment at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. That treatment could last

:15:25. > :15:29.for many weeks. Now, but girl who dared take its stand against the

:15:29. > :15:34.Taliban in Pakistan, is dependent on the skills of British doctors

:15:34. > :15:37.for her recovery. The BBC's Director General has

:15:37. > :15:43.agreed to appear before MPs who are looking at the corporation's

:15:43. > :15:46.handling of the Jimmy Savile scandal. George Entwistle is likely

:15:46. > :15:49.to face questions about who knew what, and when, about allegations

:15:49. > :15:59.that Savile molested young girls on BBC premises. With the detail

:15:59. > :16:00.

:16:00. > :16:05.here's Nick Higham. Hello ladies. A fortnight after the

:16:05. > :16:11.first allegation surface Jimmy Savile did at more than flirt with

:16:11. > :16:21.middle aged ladies, it has gone to the House of Commons. It was up to

:16:21. > :16:22.

:16:22. > :16:26.the BBC, to conduct inquiries into Savile's inquiries. These are

:16:27. > :16:31.serious matters which have wide- ranging implications for a number

:16:31. > :16:35.of public institutions, not just the BBC. It is crucial we

:16:35. > :16:40.understand what went wrong and how it can be put right. The Commons

:16:40. > :16:45.was told the BBC's director general is to give evidence to the Culture

:16:45. > :16:49.Secretary next week. It united the house. Everyone has been sickened

:16:49. > :16:54.by the abuse perpetrated by Jimmy Savile, and it is impossible to

:16:54. > :16:57.overstate the suffering he caused to those he abused. What has

:16:58. > :17:04.deepened the revulsion is this happened at the BBC - an

:17:04. > :17:08.institution so loved and trusted. It has cast a stain on the BBC.

:17:08. > :17:14.Scotland Yard what following three Conlon 40 lines of investigation in

:17:14. > :17:20.the Savile abuse case and are in touch with 14 other police forces.

:17:20. > :17:27.There may be as many as 60 victims. Today, the youngest came forward,

:17:27. > :17:31.the former Boyce doubt he was nine when he claims he was molested by a

:17:31. > :17:35.Savile in the dressing room of Jim'll Fix It. Kevin Cook from

:17:35. > :17:41.Essex spoke to the sun. We have disguised his voice. He led me

:17:41. > :17:44.through some corridors, we went into a dingy dressing-room and that

:17:44. > :17:50.is where it took place. He sat me down on the chair and stood in

:17:50. > :17:55.front of me and that is where he assaulted me. The Government's has

:17:55. > :17:59.dismissed calls for a further public inquiry.

:17:59. > :18:05.Our top story tonight: The agreement is signed to hold a

:18:05. > :18:08.referendum on Scottish independence with a simple yes-no question.

:18:08. > :18:18.Coming up: Policing our streets - what difference will the new Police

:18:18. > :18:36.

:18:36. > :18:38.Virgin Trains is being asked to continue to run services on the

:18:38. > :18:48.West Coast Main Line while the Department of Transport sorts out

:18:48. > :18:55.the mess in its bidding process. Our transport correspondent,

:18:55. > :18:59.Richard Westcott reports. Two months ago the famous Virgin logo

:18:59. > :19:05.was about to disappear from our trains. Now it is set to return.

:19:05. > :19:10.The company was told it had lost the West Coast contract to rivals,

:19:10. > :19:14.FirstGroup. Now the Government has asked it back. We are commencing in

:19:14. > :19:18.the decisions with Virgin Rail Group with a view to them remaining

:19:18. > :19:23.as operator for passenger services on the West Coast Main Line.

:19:23. > :19:28.Subject to ensuring value for money for the tax payer, I expect this to

:19:28. > :19:32.last for around nine to 30 months. The Government has been in a mess

:19:32. > :19:37.ever since it abandoned the West Coast deal this month after making

:19:37. > :19:44.terrible mistakes with its sums. Now it has got to plug a three-year

:19:44. > :19:48.gap before the next long terms -- deal is signed. EU laws means they

:19:48. > :19:54.cannot just and the contract over. Instead, Virgin has been as to keep

:19:54. > :19:59.things running for the next nine to 13 months. Ministers will award a

:19:59. > :20:04.short-term franchise lasting two years and open to everyone. The

:20:04. > :20:10.final deal won't be signed until at least 2000 of 15, after the General

:20:10. > :20:14.Election. Labour went on the attack. Now the Government have had a

:20:14. > :20:19.humiliating climbdown. Their franchising policy is in a mess.

:20:19. > :20:23.Nobody knows what will happen over the next couple of years to the

:20:23. > :20:27.West Coast Main Line and who will end up running it. The timetable to

:20:27. > :20:31.run the West Coast Main Line is confusing. We may end up with three

:20:32. > :20:35.different companies in charge over the next three years. But the

:20:35. > :20:41.Government insists that the passengers, services won't be

:20:41. > :20:44.affected, so we may get a different logo, but the timetable, trains and

:20:44. > :20:50.the first will stay the same. Passengers in Manchester are

:20:50. > :20:55.unhappy about the way it has been handled. It has been a fiasco. It

:20:55. > :20:59.is terrible that taxpayers will have to pick up the bill. Meanwhile,

:20:59. > :21:05.the whole franchise process is on hold while the Government waits for

:21:06. > :21:10.two major reviews into what went wrong.

:21:10. > :21:13.The Home Secretary has told MPs the Government plans to withdraw from

:21:13. > :21:18.many of the European Union police and criminal justice measures.

:21:18. > :21:23.There are around 130 of them. They include the European arrest

:21:23. > :21:27.warrants which speeds up extradition, the sharing of data

:21:27. > :21:33.and joist investigations between police forces across Europe. --

:21:33. > :21:37.joint investigations. James, as I understand it, the

:21:37. > :21:42.Government might opt back into some of these measures, what is going

:21:42. > :21:47.on? It is all about who controls the way crime is fought and justice

:21:47. > :21:51.is dispensed across the European Union. Prosecutors, police and the

:21:51. > :21:56.courts have co-operated with their European counterparts, sharing

:21:56. > :22:01.information and extraditing suspects. But it is on a case-by-

:22:01. > :22:05.case basis. Under the Lisbon Treaty it will be given to the EU

:22:05. > :22:10.decision-making structures. No national vetoes are the judges in

:22:10. > :22:13.Luxembourg get involved. Theresa May said we will opt out and then

:22:13. > :22:20.opt back into some measures where she thinks some measures are a good

:22:20. > :22:23.thing. The Tories cannot decide where to opt back in, the European

:22:23. > :22:29.Commission will have to agree and the whole process might cost a lot

:22:29. > :22:32.of money. Tonight, some Tory MPs are hailing this as the first stage

:22:32. > :22:42.of repatriating powers from Brussels to London. We're not there

:22:42. > :22:44.

:22:44. > :22:46.yet. With less than a month to go before

:22:46. > :22:49.the first ever elections for police commissioners in England and Wales,

:22:49. > :22:51.there are warnings that turn-out could be the lowest in electoral

:22:51. > :22:54.history. Commissioners will be responsible for holding each force,

:22:54. > :22:57.outside London, to account, but as our Home Editor, Mark Easton

:22:57. > :22:59.reports, some fear the influence of party politics on local policing.

:22:59. > :23:01.The idea is to make police in England and Wales directly

:23:01. > :23:05.accountable to voters by electing a police and crime permission for

:23:05. > :23:11.each force outside London. In tis a new role invented by the Government

:23:11. > :23:14.to oversee the police forces. Thames Valley, whoever wins on

:23:14. > :23:21.November 15th will represent more than 2 million people from high-

:23:21. > :23:23.crime areas in urban centres, to isolated rural hamlets. Police and

:23:23. > :23:28.Crime Commissioners replaced the unelected police authorities,

:23:28. > :23:35.holding police to account on behalf of voters, with the power to hire

:23:35. > :23:39.and fire the Chief Constable. They will be paid between 65,100 �1,000

:23:39. > :23:43.a year. They will set out priorities for the force area.

:23:44. > :23:51.Should the police do more or less of this kind of stuff? One have you

:23:51. > :23:56.been up to? Nothing. Should more or less money be spent on this kind of

:23:56. > :24:02.policing, out in the countryside? When we asked local neighbourhoods

:24:02. > :24:08.what is the most important priority, most say antisocial behaviour. But

:24:08. > :24:14.some say Hall cursing. That is what we have across the large area.

:24:14. > :24:21.you excited about voting for a police and crime Commissioner?

:24:21. > :24:27.not know what it is involving. have not got any comment. I am not

:24:27. > :24:34.sure. I have not read anything in the press or know anything about it.

:24:34. > :24:38.Amid fears turn out might be less than 20%, a thrusting events in

:24:38. > :24:42.Didcot's Community law invited several guests. Several of the

:24:42. > :24:47.candidates did not make it. On the Clapham, there was cross-party

:24:47. > :24:51.representation. Each of you is affiliated to a political party

:24:51. > :24:56.Bostock how can we ensure there will then not be undue party

:24:56. > :25:02.political influence. It emerged an independent has pulled out of the

:25:02. > :25:07.race. It is stacked against independent candidates, party

:25:07. > :25:15.political machining is huge. A lot of card-carrying members.

:25:15. > :25:20.Government points out all members swear impartiality. If turnout is

:25:20. > :25:24.as low as predicted, some question whether PCC will be able to claim

:25:24. > :25:32.the Democratic mandate. And to find a full list of

:25:32. > :25:35.candidates standing in your area you can go to the BBC website.

:25:35. > :25:41.That's it from me, let's return to our main story, the deal on a

:25:41. > :25:44.referendum on Scottish independence and go back to Huw, in Edinburgh.

:25:44. > :25:47.Welcome back to Edinburgh where the First Minister, Alex Salmond, and

:25:47. > :25:52.Prime Minister, David Cameron, have signed an agreement setting out the

:25:52. > :26:02.terms for a referendum on Scottish independence. It'll happen by the

:26:02. > :26:04.

:26:04. > :26:08.end of 2014, with a single yes-no on Scotland leaving the UK.

:26:08. > :26:10.All the other option to stay within it. Our Political Editor, Nick

:26:10. > :26:14.Robinson, has been following developments through the day and

:26:14. > :26:21.he's with me here now. Curious thing today, when you think of the

:26:21. > :26:26.stakes, it was very understated? Low-key, polite and respectful. The

:26:26. > :26:30.real reason, I think both men realise that this great decision

:26:30. > :26:35.that has to be taken about the future of the UK and the future of

:26:35. > :26:40.Scotland, shouldn't end up in the courts. It is best decided in a

:26:40. > :26:44.referendum all sides can agree on. It won't be a Tory, English Prime

:26:44. > :26:48.Minister and a Scottish nationalist First Minister, the Liberal

:26:48. > :26:52.Democrats or joined the Tories in campaigning against independence.

:26:52. > :26:57.David Cameron did not want to be prepared -- portrayed as the man

:26:57. > :27:02.stopping the Scots Parliament making its proper decision. What he

:27:02. > :27:06.did want to do was to make sure Alex Salmond had no wriggle room,

:27:06. > :27:11.no third option, no vote on whether there should be more powers for the

:27:11. > :27:15.Scottish Parliament. He is willing to give Alex Salmond pretty much

:27:15. > :27:20.anything else to guarantee a boat he is convinced he will win, and

:27:20. > :27:24.the Scottish people will vote against independence. But as the

:27:24. > :27:31.vote and the campaign begins, that courtesy and politeness will go.

:27:31. > :27:41.This will be a vicious, political battle. All of these events are

:27:41. > :27:46.happening in bright sunshine in 25 years ago tonight, the great

:27:46. > :27:50.storm was about to hit. Tonight, there will be some spells of rain

:27:51. > :27:56.and wind. Overnight, things go downhill across the West of England

:27:56. > :28:01.and Wales. Then it will grind to a hold across parts of Northern

:28:01. > :28:05.Ireland, northernmost parts of England and southern Scotland. The

:28:06. > :28:11.northern part of Scotland stay in dry. There will be a frost.

:28:11. > :28:17.Sunshine across the far north. But in the borders and down across

:28:17. > :28:23.Northern Ireland and the North of England, cold and bleak. Very windy

:28:23. > :28:30.across parts of North Wales and the North Midlands. Breezy across other

:28:30. > :28:35.southern areas as we start the day. Lots of sunshine. The best of the

:28:35. > :28:39.sunshine and the strongest of the wind will tend to subside. A few

:28:39. > :28:45.showers across the northern Western Isles. But through the central zone

:28:45. > :28:51.it is cloudy and damp. Temperatures in some places no higher than six

:28:51. > :28:57.or seven degrees. Further south, in the sunshine it will feel pleasant.

:28:57. > :29:03.14 or 15. Variety across the UK bus stop things will change later in

:29:03. > :29:07.the week as well. Low-pressure spins itself up and rain will surge

:29:07. > :29:11.across parts of the country. Wet weather, which is not good news

:29:11. > :29:16.because the ground is already saturated. Eventually it will make

:29:16. > :29:26.its way to Scotland. Brightening up behind with some sunshine but the