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:00:16. > :00:20.Unionists walk out of talks after the Parades Commission bans

:00:21. > :00:32.an Orange Order parade past Ardoyne on the 12th.

:00:33. > :00:36.To go into discussions on the basis there will be no parade, that is not

:00:37. > :00:39.the way forward. The new Chief Constable calls

:00:40. > :00:41.for calm We'll be reporting from Stormont,

:00:42. > :00:45.Ardoyne and speaking live to Also coming up

:00:46. > :00:47.on tonight's programme: A task force says

:00:48. > :00:49.our housing market is dysfunctional Preserving the past

:00:50. > :00:58.but looking to the future. Join me at the Ulster Folk

:00:59. > :01:00.and Transport Museum And thankfully,

:01:01. > :01:08.it's not raining yet here at the Ulster folk and Transport Museum but

:01:09. > :01:18.there is wetter weather on the way. The political talks are over

:01:19. > :01:22.and they'd hardly even started. Discussions about parades, flags

:01:23. > :01:26.and the past began yesterday and were due to last six days but today,

:01:27. > :01:31.the unionist parties walked out. The determination by the

:01:32. > :01:34.Parades Commission not to allow Orangemen past the Ardoyne shops

:01:35. > :01:38.on the homeward leg Shane Harrison reports

:01:39. > :01:54.on today's political fallout. Stormont this morning and day two at

:01:55. > :01:59.the talks aimed at resolving differences. Inside a committee

:02:00. > :02:09.room, the different delegations met to discuss the issues. But within 20

:02:10. > :02:13.minutes, the two main Unionist parties walked out after learning

:02:14. > :02:19.that the parades commission had ruled the Orange parade could not go

:02:20. > :02:25.past the Ardoyne shops. It's been a very difficult morning. The

:02:26. > :02:32.Commissioner set a very dangerous precedent, the most dangerous of

:02:33. > :02:42.dangerous. He stated that violence pays. A lot of people feel hurt. The

:02:43. > :02:47.Alliance leader and Justice Minister was very far from being impressed. I

:02:48. > :02:52.am horrified and disgusted by the behaviour of the UPI Ulster

:02:53. > :02:59.Unionist. They talked about the importance of these talks to resolve

:03:00. > :03:02.the outstanding commission -- outstanding issues and they have

:03:03. > :03:11.walked out. In doing so, they have left us in further problems. The two

:03:12. > :03:18.main parties both called for calm and for leadership. Being difficult

:03:19. > :03:25.and angry will not help us in any shape or form and we want to see...

:03:26. > :03:31.Make sure the next two weeks pass off peacefully in a way that doesn't

:03:32. > :03:39.damage a city and community. Let's face the reality. But if everybody

:03:40. > :03:44.within society who want the peace process to succeed comes together

:03:45. > :03:48.and makes it clear that violence can have no part whatsoever in how we go

:03:49. > :03:58.forward, that would be a good start. The two main Unionist parties

:03:59. > :04:02.at Stormont say they want to see a peaceful and lawful reaction to the

:04:03. > :04:06.parades commission ruling but the First Minister had this to say about

:04:07. > :04:10.the future of devolution. Institutions have been put under

:04:11. > :04:16.threat by the behaviour of the parades commission and those who

:04:17. > :04:20.threaten it. It is up to us to seek a peaceful response and we trust the

:04:21. > :04:25.people will recognise the importance of having respect and tolerance for

:04:26. > :04:29.the expression of our tradition and that violence will no longer be

:04:30. > :04:34.allowed to be the determining factor when decisions are taken. The

:04:35. > :04:39.parties have said there will be a graduated response to the rulings.

:04:40. > :04:40.Tomorrow's meeting in Dublin has now been

:04:41. > :04:45.The Parades Commission ruling that the Ligoneil Lodges are not allowed

:04:46. > :04:48.back up the Crumlin Road on the 12th of July has enraged

:04:49. > :04:53.It's also raised tensions in the interface area around Ardoyne shops.

:04:54. > :05:08.The lodges are allowed down the road on the 12th morning but once again,

:05:09. > :05:16.they are not allowed to parade back up this stretch of road in the

:05:17. > :05:20.evening. Last year, protests led to loyalist violence. However, in

:05:21. > :05:36.evening. Last year, protests led to previous years, there were violent

:05:37. > :05:36.evening. Last year, protests led to democratic system and I think it

:05:37. > :05:45.will affect how the institution democratic system and I think it

:05:46. > :05:49.system. The commission said there had been significant progress from

:05:50. > :05:57.the Orange order on its approach to this particular parade. However, it

:05:58. > :06:00.also said some had called for protest resulting in violence and

:06:01. > :06:12.that had undermined the progress that was made. I am dismayed. I

:06:13. > :06:15.can't see how democratic parades can take the threat of extremists

:06:16. > :06:22.can't see how democratic parades can democracy. It just shows the threat

:06:23. > :06:28.of violence wins over democracy. The whole community is disgusted and

:06:29. > :06:37.saddened. The previous commission named the route map. Unfortunately,

:06:38. > :06:44.the Orange didn't engage in any sustained a consistent way.

:06:45. > :06:52.Communities and groups have decisions make. I need to be clear.

:06:53. > :06:56.We will uphold the rule of law and the parades commission

:06:57. > :07:00.determination. The parades commission took the view that the

:07:01. > :07:05.potential for public disorder outweighed the significance of the

:07:06. > :07:09.12 parade being allowed back up the road. Today's rolling boil increased

:07:10. > :07:14.tensions once again in an already volatile interface area.

:07:15. > :07:17.So should we be surprised that the DUP and Ulster Unionists walked

:07:18. > :07:19.out of the talks over the issue of the Ardoyne parade?

:07:20. > :07:22.Perhaps not, given a number of joint statements in recent days

:07:23. > :07:24.indicating a growing frustration and solidarity across the unionist

:07:25. > :07:38.While the political parties were in storm on discussing flags, parading

:07:39. > :07:42.and the past, it seems it was a storm on discussing flags, parading

:07:43. > :07:47.march in north Belfast that was at the front of their minds. As soon as

:07:48. > :07:51.the ruling came in, the parties released a statement, making it

:07:52. > :08:04.clear this was an issue they would be discussing in recent weeks. The

:08:05. > :08:14.statement came from that D U P, the UUP, the TUV, the PU P and the UPI

:08:15. > :08:23.grams. The joint statement says, we have found ourselves together to

:08:24. > :08:27.defend our community and culture. As things now stand, it seems the

:08:28. > :08:30.Unionists are not talking to nationalists and republicans, just

:08:31. > :08:36.to each other, but what has brought them together? Peter Robinson, for

:08:37. > :08:43.the first time in a number of years, no longer speaks for the

:08:44. > :08:49.majority. They do have the PU P who did well, and Robinson clearly feels

:08:50. > :08:57.he is not strong enough to do this by himself, so they have brought

:08:58. > :09:03.everyone into the tent. The Assembly is in recess. Political talks appear

:09:04. > :09:06.to be over and there appears to be no further Unionist contact so it is

:09:07. > :09:07.hard to say what will change and there is barely more than a week

:09:08. > :09:12.until the 12th of July parades. With me now is the North Belfast MP,

:09:13. > :09:20.Nigel Dodds. You have called for a peaceful and

:09:21. > :09:27.lawful response but that is easier said than done. You were injured

:09:28. > :09:32.trying to appeal for calm. We are in a very serious and difficult

:09:33. > :09:44.situation and that is why all the Unionist parties have come together

:09:45. > :09:48.to issue a call for calm. We need to channel the rightful anger and

:09:49. > :09:55.frustration of people against this ludicrous decision. We are trying to

:09:56. > :10:01.send a message out to people very strongly: Yes, the commission has

:10:02. > :10:05.rewarded violence, it has trampled the rights of Unionist people down

:10:06. > :10:10.in the face of violence but we want to respond to that in a strong way

:10:11. > :10:19.through political response, protest, action at every level, but to do so

:10:20. > :10:23.in a peaceful, democratic way. You pull out of talks which surely would

:10:24. > :10:27.have been the democratic future of trying to find a resolution. It's

:10:28. > :10:32.very difficult to engage in talks with people who have talked about

:10:33. > :10:43.catastrophic consequences if the Orange are allowed to return home.

:10:44. > :10:46.Parties in the Nationalist camp have talked about catastrophic

:10:47. > :10:52.consequences, people threatening to bring people out on the street. The

:10:53. > :10:55.parades commission itself decided that the threat of disorder and

:10:56. > :11:01.violence trumped everything else. It's very difficult to see a

:11:02. > :11:06.positive way forward. Out on the streets, in relation to this

:11:07. > :11:11.parade, there is no respect for Orange culture with the Unionist

:11:12. > :11:18.tradition. Some people might be surprised that the statement

:11:19. > :11:21.includes these parties. Police have talked about them still being

:11:22. > :11:30.involved in a wide range of criminal activity, blamed for serious rioting

:11:31. > :11:36.and an ongoing operation told today by the new chief constable to tackle

:11:37. > :11:42.UVF crime in east Belfast and yet you are aligning yourself with all

:11:43. > :11:55.of those parties linked. They have a mandates and Sinn Fein... I would be

:11:56. > :12:03.looking forward to be -- to the BBC putting forward their activities.

:12:04. > :12:08.Are those going to be protests right across Northern Ireland? What we

:12:09. > :12:13.would do is come together as a Unionist community and family. That

:12:14. > :12:20.is what we're doing in to prevent violence. We would urge everybody to

:12:21. > :12:25.remain calm, follow through a plan of action which will involve

:12:26. > :12:30.peaceful protests, Unionist leaders and parties of all persuasions

:12:31. > :12:39.coming together. That response will roll-out. As a first step, we will

:12:40. > :12:43.not engage with people about parades, flags and the past who are

:12:44. > :12:54.not sincere, hypocritical and hiding behind the threat of violence. Is

:12:55. > :12:58.this political leadership? It is. The tension and trouble on the

:12:59. > :13:02.streets have been caused by the parades commission, which is

:13:03. > :13:10.rewarding violence. Two years ago, shots were fired. If you let me

:13:11. > :13:18.finish for a minute and don't enter me, please. The parades commission

:13:19. > :13:22.have rewarded violence. Two years ago, dissident republicans came out

:13:23. > :13:26.and shot the police. They are stoking up tension. Instead of

:13:27. > :13:30.rewarding engagement and good behaviour, they are rewarding bad

:13:31. > :13:41.behaviour. Don't in our community respond like that. Respond in a

:13:42. > :13:46.political way. That is the graduated response we are talking about. Is

:13:47. > :13:53.this a sign of things to come in terms of elections in the future? I

:13:54. > :13:58.am glad to see the United Unionist approach on this issue. On serious

:13:59. > :14:03.issues, when we are confronted with the threat of violence and a lack of

:14:04. > :14:04.respect to our traditions, it is incumbent on leaders to come

:14:05. > :14:07.together and welcome it. Those are

:14:08. > :14:09.the political developments today. Let's get some analysis now

:14:10. > :14:11.from our political correspondent, No Unionist set talks. Was this a

:14:12. > :14:34.surprise? Not at all. was half expecting this to happen.

:14:35. > :14:38.In some ways, it was very easy to walk out of those talks. They won't

:14:39. > :14:46.being facilitated by the former US diplomat. There was low risk pulling

:14:47. > :14:57.out of them. I don't think unionism is in any mood to compromise. UKIP,

:14:58. > :14:59.when their boat was added in, the total was 100,000. One do you

:15:00. > :15:04.when their boat was added in, the believe source said that was the

:15:05. > :15:07.votes they should have got. We are trying to get

:15:08. > :15:11.votes they should have got. We are about this response. What is your

:15:12. > :15:15.reading of it? They are not telling us everything but we heard tonight

:15:16. > :15:22.we have talk of protests, we have this walk-out, we heard Peter

:15:23. > :15:28.Robinson didn't rule out pulling out when he was asked. It is something

:15:29. > :15:35.he has threatened before. He did that a few months ago. The executive

:15:36. > :15:38.is already in crisis over welfare reform and the budget and there are

:15:39. > :15:47.whispers, looking ahead, that unionism is very nervous about

:15:48. > :15:53.2016. Then like men scenario is Martin McGuinness becoming First

:15:54. > :15:55.Minister. It's a strategy which may backfire very badly.

:15:56. > :15:59.And there'll be more on this story on The View tonight here on BBC One

:16:00. > :16:08.Still to come on tonight's programme:

:16:09. > :16:15.Join me at the Ulster folk and transport Museum where I speak to

:16:16. > :16:20.some of the people who bring this place to life.

:16:21. > :16:22.Our housing market remains dysfunctional

:16:23. > :16:26.and poses a risk to economic recovery, a report has concluded.

:16:27. > :16:28.The taskforce, backed by Stormont, was appointed by the Social

:16:29. > :16:32.Development Minister to look at the impacts of the housing crash.

:16:33. > :16:41.Our economics and business editor, John Campbell, reports.

:16:42. > :16:48.This is one of hundreds of people who faces losing his home this

:16:49. > :16:57.year. His wife became ill and couldn't work. They fell behind on

:16:58. > :17:06.payments. He told me what to do. I thought I could still get a deal. I

:17:07. > :17:16.got it down to 1089 over the phone and we couldn't afford that. We

:17:17. > :17:19.cancelled the mortgage. Last year, 3700 repossession cases started at

:17:20. > :17:24.the High Court, almost exactly the same number as in 2008. It

:17:25. > :17:30.illustrates just how long the crash has been hitting our economy. And

:17:31. > :17:34.the task force worn it is not over yet. It found the rate of

:17:35. > :17:38.repossessions would have been higher if banks had taken a harder line on

:17:39. > :17:45.fears more people could be pushed over the edge when interest rates

:17:46. > :17:50.rise. Clifford Smiley has a different problem. He is deep in

:17:51. > :17:54.negative equity. His house is worth less than his mortgage. 70,000

:17:55. > :18:00.households could be the same position but Clifford too worried.

:18:01. > :18:04.It does annoy you that you bought it at that high price and is worth

:18:05. > :18:09.probably half what you bought it for but as I said, I bought it as a home

:18:10. > :18:15.and I didn't buy it to make any quick money. But negative equity has

:18:16. > :18:21.wider effects. Because you can't delete your mortgage by selling your

:18:22. > :18:25.house, you can't move, reducing the number of transactions and the task

:18:26. > :18:30.force says that means our housing market is dysfunctional. Some parts

:18:31. > :18:34.of the market are walking OK. This development is attracting plenty of

:18:35. > :18:39.first-time buyers but the task force says that in general terms, the

:18:40. > :18:41.problems and has identified pose risks to economic recovery. Now they

:18:42. > :18:44.are starting more work to see what can be done about it.

:18:45. > :18:46.It's likely you've visited it at least once

:18:47. > :18:53.The Ulster Folk and Transport is celebrating its 50th birthday.

:18:54. > :18:56.The Transport area houses one of the best rail galleries in Europe but

:18:57. > :18:59.it's the folk museum part of the site that's marking its half century

:19:00. > :19:02.and Donna is there for us this evening in the specially built town.

:19:03. > :19:13.You won't find it on a road map but it's at the heart of the folk museum

:19:14. > :19:16.which, for the past five decades, has taken us as far back as 100

:19:17. > :19:22.years ago when our ancestors? daily lives were a lot different, a time

:19:23. > :19:25.when there were no mobile phones, no computers,

:19:26. > :19:30.This place preserves the architectural part of

:19:31. > :19:32.our history and educates us about traditional skills and crafts.

:19:33. > :19:35.Earlier, I took a walk around to speak to some of the

:19:36. > :19:54.The first one is in the Drapery Shop, which is just down there.

:19:55. > :20:01.You are the woman behind all the fantastic costumes that the visitor

:20:02. > :20:08.guides were and many of the costumes are here, how important is it that

:20:09. > :20:13.they are authentic? Very important. The importance has to be on the

:20:14. > :20:19.authenticity of the costume. Competitor -- compared to today, the

:20:20. > :20:26.costumes are heavier and more restrictive. It's very modest as

:20:27. > :20:32.well, always up to the neck, arms covered. New visitor guides would

:20:33. > :20:39.find it different. There is no lycra or stretchy fabric, so it is a

:20:40. > :20:43.little bit different. You are here at the discovery farm. What a fine

:20:44. > :20:48.looking specimen you have here! How important was the pig in the days of

:20:49. > :20:58.farming 100 years ago? Very important. One of the pigs would

:20:59. > :21:07.have gone off the slaughter, one would have stayed on the farm for

:21:08. > :21:11.meat. You will see an awful lot of equipment and carts around the

:21:12. > :21:21.place. That is where I am going to do next. If I can interrupt you, as

:21:22. > :21:26.well as refurbishing, you are making an awful lot here. Describe what you

:21:27. > :21:32.create. This is 19th-century blacksmithing. These are the

:21:33. > :21:42.bellows, the fire. We are making farming implements. All the types of

:21:43. > :21:48.things that farmers would have made. We are working with the construction

:21:49. > :21:54.industry training board in Belfast. We are not only working in the past,

:21:55. > :22:03.we are working in the future as well. Just a flavour of some of the

:22:04. > :22:06.things you can see when you walk around the folk Museum here today.

:22:07. > :22:08.With me now is Dr Jim McGreevy, director of Collections

:22:09. > :22:13.and Interpretation, National Museums, Northern Ireland.

:22:14. > :22:24.When you look towards the future, what do you see? What I would want

:22:25. > :22:30.to see is respect and continuation of the legacy that our predecessors

:22:31. > :22:38.left us, a very rich cultural legacy, a legacy that creates so

:22:39. > :22:48.many opportunities and contributions to tourism. Obviously, we operate

:22:49. > :22:52.within a very tight financially challenged situation and given that,

:22:53. > :22:57.I would imagine that we are looking more towards enrichment of what we

:22:58. > :23:03.have already developed as opposed to major expansion. Do you mean more

:23:04. > :23:07.shops, cottages? Not necessarily. We have already developed quite a broad

:23:08. > :23:17.representation of types of buildings have already developed quite a broad

:23:18. > :23:21.trades, crafts and so on. I am have already developed quite a broad

:23:22. > :23:26.thinking more of developing opportunities that those provided.

:23:27. > :23:31.One thing we fill very strongly about is putting people at the

:23:32. > :23:40.centre, and from that point of view, one of the major step changes we

:23:41. > :23:43.would like to see is improving our facilities and developing

:23:44. > :23:47.would like to see is improving our visitor centre. No one is here at

:23:48. > :23:51.the moment. But I saw plenty of visitors today. Over the past 50

:23:52. > :23:59.years, has that profile of the visitor changed? It has. We have a

:24:00. > :24:04.very strong local visitor base. We also have a lot of interest from the

:24:05. > :24:10.Republic of Ireland and further afield. As many attractions have

:24:11. > :24:18.seen in recent years, we have benefited from the piece, but also,

:24:19. > :24:25.are offering is much richer. The programmes we are building are

:24:26. > :24:30.are offering is much richer. The richer and more diverse. Come back

:24:31. > :24:31.to us, where Angie will have the weather forecast. I wonder what the

:24:32. > :24:35.weather was like 50 years ago today? Disgraceful,

:24:36. > :24:36.disgusting and embarrassing. Just some of the reaction

:24:37. > :24:39.Garth Brooks fans have been giving us after news that two

:24:40. > :24:42.of his upcoming Croke Park concerts Dublin City Council has given

:24:43. > :24:59.permission for the first three shows to go ahead but not those on Monday,

:25:00. > :25:05.July 28th and Tuesday 29th. It said the level of disruption to

:25:06. > :25:08.residents would be unacceptable. Aiken Promotions, who are organising

:25:09. > :25:11.the concerts, said it's "very They say a further announcement

:25:12. > :25:17.on the two shows is expected There's been

:25:18. > :25:22.a heated reaction to the news on Be sure to leave us your comments

:25:23. > :25:29.if you've been affected. Back to Cultra now and to Angie for

:25:30. > :25:51.the weekend weather forecast. Not an awful lot of sunshine. But it

:25:52. > :25:55.has been quite warm today. 21 degrees in sheltered parts of South

:25:56. > :26:02.down. I have also had a look back to this day 50 years ago. Not too

:26:03. > :26:07.dissimilar. Similar temperatures. It was dry, maybe a bit more sunshine,

:26:08. > :26:11.though. That brings us on to the satellite picture. You can clearly

:26:12. > :26:17.see the cloud. It brought a few spots of rain in places. But that

:26:18. > :26:24.will fizzle away, so for most of us, a dry evening. But then things start

:26:25. > :26:30.to change. The wind will pick up from the south, the cloud will

:26:31. > :26:38.thicken up to bring spells of rain. But it will not be a cold night.

:26:39. > :26:41.Quite a muggy and warm night. Into tomorrow, eventually, some places

:26:42. > :26:49.will see an improvement, but for many of us, not a grey day. Through

:26:50. > :26:51.the morning rush hour, some places will get heavy and persistent spells

:26:52. > :27:00.of rain. It will not be too pleasant. Once that rain sets in, it

:27:01. > :27:10.looks as though it could well linger across parts of the East. But drier

:27:11. > :27:19.weather will follow in from the West and even a hint of something

:27:20. > :27:24.brighter. Temperatures tomorrow around 16 or 17 degrees. With that

:27:25. > :27:32.weather front, we're not out of the woods. Low-pressure moves in so

:27:33. > :27:34.still unsettled. If you get those showers, you will know about it.

:27:35. > :27:37.Some will be heavy and fun to read.