:00:00. > :00:07.This is BBC Newsline on the day when the death was announced
:00:08. > :00:12.He passed away in hospital just after midnight,
:00:13. > :00:14.his body was brought to the Bogside this afternoon.
:00:15. > :00:19.We trace his journey from guns to Government.
:00:20. > :00:29.I am prepared to go to jail. I would rather die than disrupt or destroy
:00:30. > :00:31.my code of honour to the IRA. These people, they are traitors to the
:00:32. > :00:34.island of Ireland. From IRA commander
:00:35. > :00:38.to meeting the Queen. I am in Martin McGuinness's home
:00:39. > :00:41.city throughout the programme. We'll hear very different
:00:42. > :00:50.views on his legacy. I am very proud to call Martin
:00:51. > :00:55.McGuinness my friend and today republicans right across the island
:00:56. > :00:58.of Ireland will mourn his passing. He went into Government as an
:00:59. > :01:11.unrepentant terrorist and I can never forget that.
:01:12. > :01:14.Martin McGuinness was the IRA man who met the Queen,
:01:15. > :01:16.the politician who ran to be President of Ireland,
:01:17. > :01:21.the ardent republican who led his supporters
:01:22. > :01:25.A few months after being diagnosed with a heart condition the former
:01:26. > :01:33.Deputy First Minister and leader of Sinn Fein at Stormont died
:01:34. > :01:39.This afternoon, his coffin was taken to the Bogside where he grew up
:01:40. > :01:48.Hundreds of people walked from William Street passed
:01:49. > :01:50.Hundreds of people walked from William Street past
:01:51. > :01:55.In this specially extended BBC Newsline we look back
:01:56. > :01:58.at the Martin McGuinness's public role and assess his legacy.
:01:59. > :02:00.Here in Londonderry, we'll hear about the impact made
:02:01. > :02:05.They include former political foes with whom he forged a friendship
:02:06. > :02:08.as well as the relatives of victims who cannot forgive his
:02:09. > :02:14.First, our political editor Mark Devenport looks back
:02:15. > :02:20.at what by any description has been a remarkable career beginning
:02:21. > :02:24.This report begins with a clearly ill Martin McGuinness announced he
:02:25. > :02:27.was stepping down as Deputy First Minister.
:02:28. > :02:29.When Martin McGuinness resigned as Deputy First Minister his
:02:30. > :02:35.Ten days later, supporters gathered outside Martin McGuinness's
:02:36. > :02:39.home as the news spread he was quitting politics altogether.
:02:40. > :02:53.My heart lies in the Bogside and with the people of Derry.
:02:54. > :03:09.It has taken its toll on me but I am very
:03:10. > :03:13.His final battle with illness followed a lifetime of political
:03:14. > :03:17.Born into a large family in the deprived Bogside
:03:18. > :03:18.area of Londonderry, Martin McGuinness left
:03:19. > :03:23.He was working as a butcher's assistant when the Troubles
:03:24. > :03:28.The young McGuinness quickly moved from taking part
:03:29. > :03:36.in civil rights protests, to joining the IRA.
:03:37. > :03:43.I was 19 years of age approximately at that time. Thoughts do turn to
:03:44. > :03:49.how you can be more effective in terms of confronting the British
:03:50. > :03:54.Army and the RUC and I suppose, you know, there are limits to what you
:03:55. > :04:00.can do with a stone. There are limits to what you can do with
:04:01. > :04:06.bricks and with bottles. And at the same time, lead bullets were being
:04:07. > :04:10.used against the people. So, I and many others made a very conscious
:04:11. > :04:15.decision to seek to join the IRA. To be more effective in our resistance.
:04:16. > :04:17.In 1972, soldiers from the Parachute Regiment killed 14
:04:18. > :04:20.Martin McGuinness was second-in-command of the IRA
:04:21. > :04:28.The next year he was convicted of IRA activity by an Irish court.
:04:29. > :04:32.Security chiefs are in no doubt he was a key figure in the IRA as it
:04:33. > :04:35.reorganised and rearmed in the 1980s.
:04:36. > :04:37.Amongst its most high-profile attacks was the attempt to kill
:04:38. > :04:41.Margaret Thatcher at the Grand Hotel in Brighton in 1984.
:04:42. > :04:48.This nation will meet that challenge.
:04:49. > :05:00.Mrs Thatcher was furious when the BBC broadcast a real lives
:05:01. > :05:02.documentary in 1985 featuring Martin McGuinness,
:05:03. > :05:09.Reports that I am Chief of Staff of the IRA are untrue but I regard
:05:10. > :05:16.Martin McGuinness denied having prior knowledge
:05:17. > :05:20.of the Enniskillen Remembrance Day bombing, the murder of informer
:05:21. > :05:23.Frank Hegarty or the proxy bombings aimed at Army border checkpoints
:05:24. > :05:25.but he consistently defended the right of the IRA
:05:26. > :05:37.At the end of the day, it will be the cutting edge of the IRA
:05:38. > :05:41.When the IRA called its ceasefire in 1994, Martin McGuinness had
:05:42. > :05:43.already been involved in lengthy secret contacts with British agents.
:05:44. > :05:45.He went on to become Sinn Fein's chief negotiator
:05:46. > :05:50.Then served as the Education Minister who abolished the 11-Plus
:05:51. > :05:58.just before a lengthy breakdown in devolution.
:05:59. > :06:04.It's been absolutely gut-wrenching for me as an Irish republican to
:06:05. > :06:11.come to this building, Stormont, and be a Minister in a northern
:06:12. > :06:15.Executive. Are we to throw away at one fell swoop all of the hard
:06:16. > :06:19.gotten gains of the last number of years? I just think it's madness. I
:06:20. > :06:23.think it's madness of the worst kind.
:06:24. > :06:26.In 2007, power-sharing was restored and the public witnessed
:06:27. > :06:28.the almost unbelievable sight of Martin McGuinness forging not
:06:29. > :06:30.just a political partnership but an apparently genuine friendship
:06:31. > :06:43.He also seemed to enjoy a warm rapport with the Queen,
:06:44. > :06:45.shaking hands with her on more than one occasion.
:06:46. > :06:53.Martin McGuinness's relationship with Peter Robinson seemed cooler
:06:54. > :06:56.and more business-like than his partnership
:06:57. > :07:02.Then when Arlene Foster arrived at Stormont Castle he complained
:07:03. > :07:04.that the new DUP leader wasn't prepared to match his
:07:05. > :07:11.We suggested to the DUP that Arlene and I should travel to France and go
:07:12. > :07:16.together to a Northern Ireland game and to a Republic game
:07:17. > :07:21.I wasn't asking her to go to a 1916 commemoration,
:07:22. > :07:32.Arlene went to the Northern Ireland match and I went to both.
:07:33. > :07:35.Historians may ponder the contrast between Martin McGuinness
:07:36. > :07:40.the peacemaker and Martin McGuinness the IRA commander.
:07:41. > :07:44.However, his ability to steer the republican movement away
:07:45. > :07:47.from violence stemmed from his previous clandestine
:07:48. > :07:52.He didn't live to see the united Ireland he fought for,
:07:53. > :07:54.but there's no doubt Martin McGuinness irrevocably
:07:55. > :08:03.changed the dynamics of politics here.
:08:04. > :08:09.My journey's been a long journey, over 25 years working on building
:08:10. > :08:13.the peace. I suppose epitomised by the fact that since I have taken
:08:14. > :08:17.ill, I have had many, many, many thousands of letters and messages of
:08:18. > :08:24.support right throughout the community. But the ones that mean a
:08:25. > :08:29.lot to me in all of that, of the many, many messages that have come
:08:30. > :08:34.from Protestant Churchmen right across the churches and from
:08:35. > :08:39.ordinary Protestant people and the fact that I am in their prayers says
:08:40. > :08:42.something about the impact I hope I have made in terms of my willingness
:08:43. > :08:47.to reach out. Martin McGuinness, as you heard,
:08:48. > :08:50.said his heart lies in the Bogside. It's there, just over my shoulder,
:08:51. > :08:53.that he was born in May 1950. He told the Bloody Sunday Inquiry
:08:54. > :08:56.that, at the age of 21, he had been the second-in-command
:08:57. > :09:00.of the IRA in the city at the time and later that year he was flown
:09:01. > :09:03.to London to take part in secret Despite his prominent political
:09:04. > :09:07.role, particularly over the last two decades,
:09:08. > :09:14.he has also been a regular the last two decades, he has also
:09:15. > :09:18.been a regular at the Brandywell. Keiron Tourish reflects
:09:19. > :09:20.on what people here have been saying about the Martin McGuinness
:09:21. > :09:25.they knew personally. The final journey home for Martin
:09:26. > :09:28.McGuinness, republicans thronged the streets to say farewell to one of
:09:29. > :09:32.their own. For sometime Martin McGuinness had been receiving
:09:33. > :09:37.treatment at Altnagelvin Hospital for a serious illness, with close
:09:38. > :09:44.family maintaining a vigil. He passed away early this morning. You
:09:45. > :10:04.go into the room, obviously it's a family.
:10:05. > :10:06.Bernie's lost a husband, the children have lost their father,
:10:07. > :10:09.you know, the brothers and sisters, Geraldine was there,
:10:10. > :10:12.nephews and nieces and you can sort of see that Martin was very much
:10:13. > :10:16.So they're today mourning that person, not the statesman,
:10:17. > :10:18.not the great republican, although they know he was that,
:10:19. > :10:20.they lost their father, their husband, their uncle,
:10:21. > :10:22.their brother and obviously the devastation was palpable.
:10:23. > :10:24.People in the Bogside today gave their views on the death
:10:25. > :10:30.It's totally devastating for the community as a whole. It's sad, he
:10:31. > :10:32.done a lot for this town, for the peace process. And for that I am
:10:33. > :10:35.sure people will miss him, lovely man, lovely family. Very sad to hear
:10:36. > :10:40.it, that he died. Very sad indeed. He was a good fella. It's a sad day
:10:41. > :10:45.for Derry, sad day for Ireland. The Derry Journal has been documenting
:10:46. > :10:49.city life since 1972 and plans a special edition tomorrow. This is
:10:50. > :10:54.another major story. It ranks up there with obviously the passing of
:10:55. > :10:58.Bishop Daly was very important, the Savile inquiry, the apology from the
:10:59. > :11:05.British parliament. It's really, really up there. It's an amazing
:11:06. > :11:10.story for us. It's a very, very high-profile man who was once
:11:11. > :11:13.considered a political pariah to international statesman,
:11:14. > :11:18.peace-maker. The Church of Ireland Bishop offered his condolences. But
:11:19. > :11:21.said many who had lost loved ones to the IRA would be reflecting on that
:11:22. > :11:28.today. They'll find it hard to come
:11:29. > :11:31.to terms with all of this and why is he receiving the adulation
:11:32. > :11:34.that he is, when his past has been so difficult and his association
:11:35. > :11:37.with the IRA which he referred to as the cutting edge,
:11:38. > :11:49.that led to so much pain, Kathleen lost her 42-year-old
:11:50. > :11:54.husband Patsy in the bomb in 1990. It also claimed the lives of five
:11:55. > :11:59.soldiers. He was used as a so-called human bomb. Martin McGuinness
:12:00. > :12:05.defended the IRA attack. I would like to pass my condolences on to
:12:06. > :12:10.his wife and his family because I feel that they will need everybody's
:12:11. > :12:18.support now, no matter about Martin or what his past or his present was.
:12:19. > :12:22.I feel a wee bit robbed of the fact that she got to say goodbye to
:12:23. > :12:27.Martin, I didn't get to say goodbye to Patsy. What do you think of
:12:28. > :12:33.Martin McGuinness and the IRA ultimately? Well, as I said, I make
:12:34. > :12:37.no secret of the fact that I have no forgiveness for what happened to my
:12:38. > :12:40.husband. I will never forgive them. Can't understand how people can sit
:12:41. > :12:45.down and plan such a horrendous death for someone. I am not taking
:12:46. > :12:51.away from the fact that Martin McGuinness turned his life around.
:12:52. > :12:59.But I can't forget what his previous life consisted of. And he's been put
:13:00. > :13:05.on a pedastel now, OK in some ways he's done a lot of good but I don't
:13:06. > :13:08.think he deserved that. It's 26 years now since my husband's death.
:13:09. > :13:14.We have five grandchildren now which he didn't know. His grandchildren
:13:15. > :13:20.call him Patsy because they didn't know him as grandad, they weren't
:13:21. > :13:25.born. My abiding memories are of, well, my daughter's wedding day when
:13:26. > :13:31.her daddy should have been there. Um... Her brother was there to walk
:13:32. > :13:33.her up the aisle, her daddy should have been there, all the different
:13:34. > :13:38.occasions when Patsy should have been there and he was taken from us.
:13:39. > :13:41.There's no doubting the fact that Martin McGuinness was a hugely
:13:42. > :13:47.divisive and controversial figure during his lifetime. But ultimately
:13:48. > :13:49.history will be the judge of the scale and size of his contribution
:13:50. > :14:01.over recent decades. With me is the Sinn Fein President
:14:02. > :14:04.Gerry Adams. A very difficult day for republicans, and one for you
:14:05. > :14:11.personally, you have lost someone very close to you. Yes, and Bernie
:14:12. > :14:20.has lost her partner, her lover, her husband and a father of her children
:14:21. > :14:23.and the two boys and the eight grandchildren have lost a father and
:14:24. > :14:26.a grandfather. So, you know, it's a big, big loss for the family
:14:27. > :14:30.especially but also for Martin's republican family, for his Sinn Fein
:14:31. > :14:35.family. When it comes to the reflections about his legacy today,
:14:36. > :14:40.can you understand those voices, people like Kathleen Gillespie who
:14:41. > :14:46.feel they can't forgive? Yes, that's a matter for them. That's the right
:14:47. > :14:50.to whatever opinion they have and they would see it as being
:14:51. > :14:55.justified, but I have a different opinion. Martin McGuinness did his
:14:56. > :15:02.best in very, very difficult circumstances. He is a pioneer of a
:15:03. > :15:07.peace process that has been despite its imperfections the saving of, who
:15:08. > :15:12.knows, hundreds of lives, and we have to look at all of this. Martin
:15:13. > :15:16.wasn't a single dimensional person, he was many, many things like all of
:15:17. > :15:19.us, he was a human being, you know, he loved his family, loved his
:15:20. > :15:22.community. He was actually looking forward to stepping down from public
:15:23. > :15:26.office, you know, remember he was there with Ian Paisley and Peter
:15:27. > :15:29.Robinson and Arlene Foster, he was there as Education Minister, was
:15:30. > :15:35.there for years when no one would talk to Sinn Fein or respect our
:15:36. > :15:41.mandate when we were censored and he persisted with the help of John Hume
:15:42. > :15:45.and others, Fr Des Wilson and Alec Reid and we got to where we are,
:15:46. > :15:49.let's make sure it never, ever slips back again. He was able to build up
:15:50. > :15:52.those extraordinary relationships with people, not least that meeting
:15:53. > :16:00.or meetings with the Queen. Do you think any other republican could
:16:01. > :16:04.have done that? Probably so. But not with Martin's panache. Because, and
:16:05. > :16:09.I used to always say that he got that from his mother. His mother was
:16:10. > :16:13.from a rural countrywoman who came to Derry, she had that sense of
:16:14. > :16:19.hospitalality of tolerance, and reaching out, you never went out of
:16:20. > :16:23.the house hungry and Martin had that affable good-natured way of dealing
:16:24. > :16:30.with everybody he met. He could also be very assertive when he was having
:16:31. > :16:36.a dispute or advocating against someone, but his meetings with Queen
:16:37. > :16:41.Elizabeth, he knew that disxhoeted many nationalists, he was unrepent
:16:42. > :16:45.anteabout it, but also some unionists, so when you are a pioneer
:16:46. > :16:49.in this business, you need partners and that's what we need at this
:16:50. > :16:50.time, we need a partner in the process of making peace and building
:16:51. > :17:00.politics. It's difficult journey. He loved the
:17:01. > :17:07.city but was behind bombings in the city. The same in terms of Ireland
:17:08. > :17:15.itself, how do you that circle? He was born in this city in 1950. The
:17:16. > :17:20.orange date didn't want him. When you treat people like that there's
:17:21. > :17:25.bound to be a response. When there was a peaceful demand for basic
:17:26. > :17:28.civil rights which would have helped everyone, the British state
:17:29. > :17:34.repressed that and then the politicians made a fundamental
:17:35. > :17:38.mistake. They handed it over to the generals who militarised the
:17:39. > :17:42.situation and given the history of Ireland and the tendency with
:17:43. > :17:47.republicanism, you got the response. I personally met Martin in the city
:17:48. > :17:54.when it was free Derry and we have come be an all of that. People are
:17:55. > :17:58.reflected on the past today. Could Republicans have done more in terms
:17:59. > :18:03.of repentance and apologies and regret that would have healed
:18:04. > :18:13.society in a way that we see today has not happened? I have said many
:18:14. > :18:20.times, including talking about Republican patriot dead, they were
:18:21. > :18:28.brave people. Including the people in the RUC and UDR. We have
:18:29. > :18:35.apologised to all the civilian casualties. There is always more you
:18:36. > :18:41.can do but I would look for an example of anyone who has done the
:18:42. > :18:47.type of pioneering out reach that Martin McGuinness has done. There is
:18:48. > :18:52.no one else who has done as much in terms of trying to reach out to the
:18:53. > :18:55.other as Martin has done. Gerry Adams, thank you very much for
:18:56. > :18:58.joining us. We will have more throughout the programme but for now
:18:59. > :19:01.back to you, Donna. The journey made by Martin
:19:02. > :19:03.McGuinness from conflict to peace involved a close working
:19:04. > :19:05.relationship and unlikely That has been described
:19:06. > :19:18.as remarkable by one When I was growing up, he was the
:19:19. > :19:22.godfather of the provisional IRA and struck terror quite literally into
:19:23. > :19:28.the hearts and lives of many people. And that moved from being the
:19:29. > :19:32.godfather to being the man in government. That's remarkable
:19:33. > :19:37.journey is incredibly important. As a Christian, as a person who
:19:38. > :19:43.reflects on life, it's not how you start your life that's important,
:19:44. > :19:46.it's how you finish on life. A lot of people will be thankful that
:19:47. > :19:48.Martin McGuinness finished his life a lot better than it could have
:19:49. > :19:52.been. The journey was remarkable. Martin McGuinness served
:19:53. > :19:54.as Deputy First Minister alongside three DUP leaders Ian Paisley,
:19:55. > :19:58.Peter Robinson and Arlene Foster. He has travelled to other countries
:19:59. > :20:02.to talk about his role in the peace process and forging relationships
:20:03. > :20:05.across the political spectrum. He was only ever jailed
:20:06. > :20:08.in the Republic after being arrested near a car containing
:20:09. > :20:12.explosives and ammunition. In 2011, he ran for
:20:13. > :20:16.the presidency of Ireland. Today, President Michael D Higgins
:20:17. > :20:20.led tributes from around the world. He said people across this island
:20:21. > :20:24.will miss the leadership he gave and his commitment to the values
:20:25. > :20:26.of genuine democracy. This report from our political
:20:27. > :20:41.correspondent Gareth Gordon. Even in death, the talking continued
:20:42. > :20:44.today, the aim restoring the political institutions Martin
:20:45. > :20:49.McGuinness had brought down saying that they needed to be reformed.
:20:50. > :20:55.What of the woman he called upon to stand aside as First Minister.
:20:56. > :20:59.Arlene Foster paid a warm tribute. While we had many reasons not to
:21:00. > :21:06.work together, and indeed there were a lot of things that separated as,
:21:07. > :21:12.our life stories, our backgrounds, we did have the core belief that
:21:13. > :21:17.Stormont was the right thing to do. The devolved government here was the
:21:18. > :21:20.way to move things forward in Northern Ireland. That's certainly
:21:21. > :21:25.how I will remember him, that he wanted to make a difference. Far
:21:26. > :21:30.away in Derry, the Sinn Fein president remembered the man he
:21:31. > :21:35.relied upon more than any other. Martin was as we all know a very
:21:36. > :21:40.passionate Irish republican, he believed in our people, that this
:21:41. > :21:49.island should be free, he believed in reconciliation, he worked very
:21:50. > :21:54.hard at that. Man of War two man of peace. The political world tried to
:21:55. > :22:00.capture a remarkable journey in a sound bite. I have to say that my
:22:01. > :22:06.dealings with him demonstrated a man of huge integrity as a political
:22:07. > :22:10.figure here at Stormont. The third thought is the information he took
:22:11. > :22:14.with him to the grave. He knew things about troubles incidents that
:22:15. > :22:20.people wanted to know and I think it is a shame that information has been
:22:21. > :22:25.lost. He was a calming influence, he had an enormous amount of patients
:22:26. > :22:29.in negotiations and particularly at this point in time that is something
:22:30. > :22:36.that is missing. Clearly, there were two parts of his life. We obviously
:22:37. > :22:40.look now at both of them but the contribution that he made through
:22:41. > :22:45.the peace process, through taking the republican movement to the place
:22:46. > :22:54.of purely political ends, peaceful ends, I think, is really the thing
:22:55. > :23:00.that people will remember. But this critic is not prepared to forget.
:23:01. > :23:05.Nobody made him be a terrorist. He chose to be a terrorist. He chose to
:23:06. > :23:10.decide that people would die. We have to be careful about lauding
:23:11. > :23:14.such a person if he gives up that pursuit. He should never have been
:23:15. > :23:19.in that pursuit in the first place. Tony Blair remembered their first
:23:20. > :23:23.meeting. I remember Martin coming with Gerry Adams, they sat down
:23:24. > :23:30.heavily at the Cabinet table and Martin looked around and said with
:23:31. > :23:35.heavy irony, this was where the damage was done. Meaning, the
:23:36. > :23:47.partition agreement, the days of David Lloyd George. It shows... My
:23:48. > :23:53.chief of staff replied, I thought you meant when you guys lobbed
:23:54. > :23:58.mortars in John Major's time. Martin McGuinness played a part, a
:23:59. > :24:05.significant part in the IRA's part in bringing violence to a conclusion
:24:06. > :24:10.and bringing the peace protest. Peter Robinson said that he did not
:24:11. > :24:18.believe that any other Republican could have performed the same role.
:24:19. > :24:32.The former president Bill Clinton said...
:24:33. > :24:41.As it was after the death of Ian Paisley, the assembly is being
:24:42. > :24:43.recalled tomorrow to allow the MLAs to give their formal response to the
:24:44. > :24:50.death of Martin McGuinness. A BBC documentary in 2008 said
:24:51. > :24:53.Martin McGuinness was the head of the IRA's Northern Command
:24:54. > :24:55.and had advance knowledge It has also been claimed
:24:56. > :25:00.in the Dail that he was one Those that suffered at the hands
:25:01. > :25:04.of the IRA have been Some say they will never forgive
:25:05. > :25:08.the part he played Others believe he was genuine both
:25:09. > :25:14.in his efforts to bring peace and in reaching out the hand
:25:15. > :25:30.of friendship to unionists. Martin McGuinness was seen by many
:25:31. > :25:34.as the public face of the IRA. For many families affected by IRA
:25:35. > :25:40.violence, he was regarded as a man with questions to answer.
:25:41. > :25:46.13-year-old Leanne Murray was killed by the Shankill bomb. How will her
:25:47. > :25:53.brother remember Martin McGuinness? Caused a lot of hurt, a lot of pain.
:25:54. > :26:00.And towards the end people said that he changed. I find it very hard to
:26:01. > :26:05.believe. I do feel for his family but it happens, doesn't it? The
:26:06. > :26:10.Enniskillen bomb killed 11 people including husband and wife Willie
:26:11. > :26:16.and Agnes Mullen. Today their daughter said that Martin McGuinness
:26:17. > :26:22.should have said sorry for what happened. He went into government as
:26:23. > :26:28.an unrepentant terrorist and I will never forget that. I will never
:26:29. > :26:38.forget the deaths that were caused by Northern Ireland -- in Northern
:26:39. > :26:41.Ireland by the IRA. In 1972, nine people were killed and more than 30
:26:42. > :26:49.injured by this bombing. Many questions were left answered. He has
:26:50. > :26:55.left me a lasting legacy, suffering from the shrapnel in my body. He has
:26:56. > :27:01.left me with that. Although he admitted being in the IRA in Derry
:27:02. > :27:04.in the 1970s, at the bloody Sunday enquiry he refused to say who else
:27:05. > :27:15.was in the IRA. I would rather die than disrupt or disown my code of
:27:16. > :27:20.honour to the IRA. Absolutely. Among those who survived the bombing
:27:21. > :27:23.Brighton was Lord Tebbit. His wife was severely injured. He said he had
:27:24. > :27:30.no sympathy for Martin McGuinness. He was a coward. Most terrorists are
:27:31. > :27:36.cowards. Peace would have been achieved anyway because the RA were
:27:37. > :27:41.defeated. The father of one of the young boys killed in Warrington says
:27:42. > :27:44.he can never forgive the IRA but in recent years Colin Parry got to know
:27:45. > :27:51.Martin McGuinness. What did you make of him? He came across as a very
:27:52. > :27:55.reasonable man. This may seem crazy given his early life. He was an easy
:27:56. > :28:02.man to talk to. The only misgivings I have had was that it went beyond
:28:03. > :28:09.the stage of handshakes and he gave me a man hug. I felt awkward then
:28:10. > :28:14.although I didn't tell him. The victims bodies of some of the
:28:15. > :28:23.victims of the IRA have never been found. This man lost his brother and
:28:24. > :28:29.gave this message today. At the end of the week, they will be able to
:28:30. > :28:40.bury him. We will still not be able to visit our grey. -- grave. In life
:28:41. > :28:42.as in death, Martin McGuinness has divided opinion.
:28:43. > :28:46.Our political editor Mark Devenport is with me now.
:28:47. > :28:54.His opponents seem to be in general warm in their tone and tributes
:28:55. > :29:01.today. How surprisingly is that? We have heard in that piece that it is
:29:02. > :29:06.inevitable given that some of those who have suffered at the hands of
:29:07. > :29:11.the IRA found it hard to forgive. Including Lord Tebbit who said he
:29:12. > :29:15.thought Martin McGuinness would burn in hell today. But what is the sign
:29:16. > :29:22.is that those sentiments are not entirely echoed across the unionist
:29:23. > :29:30.political spectrum. Others have said that he didn't need to going to the
:29:31. > :29:34.IRA and should atone for that. But people like Peter Robinson and David
:29:35. > :29:38.Trimble have said that they believed his influence will be greatly missed
:29:39. > :29:41.in the effort to put things back together at Stormont. That is
:29:42. > :29:45.testament to the transition Martin McGuinness made and also to the
:29:46. > :29:51.personal charisma that really reached out to people and was able
:29:52. > :30:00.to build relationships that you might have thought were impossible.
:30:01. > :30:06.What impact has his absence from Stormont had in the latest political
:30:07. > :30:09.crisis? The fact that he was battling illness removed him at a
:30:10. > :30:15.vital time and if he had been more able to intervene at an earlier
:30:16. > :30:19.stage, we may have avoided some of the recent crises. His absence I
:30:20. > :30:24.think has certainly made is worse. Will the sense of coming together
:30:25. > :30:30.now, as politicians from across the spectrum pay a degree of tribute,
:30:31. > :30:34.although in the context of his two lives, will that focus the
:30:35. > :30:40.attention? That is the question now. The assembly has been recalled
:30:41. > :30:44.tomorrow. We went to to have a session until Monday next week. That
:30:45. > :30:51.is the deadline for electing a speaker and first and Deputy First
:30:52. > :30:55.Minister. We will have a meeting where MLAs will give their
:30:56. > :31:00.perspectives. Undoubtedly there will be tough words but quite a lot of
:31:01. > :31:01.warm words not only from Republicans but from the other parties including
:31:02. > :31:08.the Unionists. Peter Taylor, who first met
:31:09. > :31:17.Martin McGuinness in the Bogside He is in our studio. What sort of a
:31:18. > :31:21.man did you meet? I didn't know Martin McGuinness, I had never met
:31:22. > :31:25.him before, it was John Hume who pointed him out and said he is
:31:26. > :31:30.somebody you should talk to. I met him in the Gas Works in 1972 at the
:31:31. > :31:35.time of Bloody Sunday which was my introduction to the conflict was the
:31:36. > :31:39.IRA's headquarters and I was surprised and very impressed, he
:31:40. > :31:44.wasn't the sort of stereotypical image of the quotes, terrorist. He
:31:45. > :31:51.was bright, he was articulate. He was amusing and he was utterly
:31:52. > :31:54.committed to his political goal, which was the reuniification of
:31:55. > :31:58.Ireland and committed to the way in I he believed at the time that could
:31:59. > :32:01.be achieved, which was by violence and the so-called armed struggle. Of
:32:02. > :32:06.course he changed dramatically over the years. He went on to become a
:32:07. > :32:10.very senior, if not the most senior IRA person, leader, on the island of
:32:11. > :32:18.Ireland. Shortly after Bloody Sunday he was one of the IRA delegation
:32:19. > :32:24.along with Gerry Adams who talked to the British Secretary of State, the
:32:25. > :32:26.whole thing was a fiasco because the IRA's demands were totally
:32:27. > :32:30.unrecognisable. I think Martin McGuinness politically learned from
:32:31. > :32:36.that meeting, which is why his transformation which I believe was
:32:37. > :32:39.utterly genuine, was based on the realisation that if there was to be
:32:40. > :32:45.a united Ireland the only way it could happen was not via the
:32:46. > :32:48.so-called armed struggle but by republicans embracing their
:32:49. > :32:54.traditional unionist enemies and persuading them to take part in a
:32:55. > :33:00.project that would lead Sinn Fein, the IRA believed, will ultimately
:33:01. > :33:03.lead to a united Ireland. There was a long-term strategy behind Martin
:33:04. > :33:06.McGuinness's conversion. You talk about him being controlled in his
:33:07. > :33:09.message, he did seem to be media savvy. We are sort of in a bubble in
:33:10. > :33:12.Northern Ireland, because we see these politicians on our screens all
:33:13. > :33:16.the time, how do you think he is viewed now and his legacy will be
:33:17. > :33:20.viewed across the water in London and beyond? I think the way that
:33:21. > :33:24.people on this side of the Irish channel view Martin McGuinness is
:33:25. > :33:30.very different from the way people in Northern Ireland or the island of
:33:31. > :33:33.Ireland view Martin McGuinness, where opinion is divided
:33:34. > :33:38.dramatically over him as an individual as an IRA leader and him
:33:39. > :33:43.as a so-called man of peace. Over here I suspect that many people
:33:44. > :33:49.would still see Martin McGuinness as the quotes terrorist. Because there
:33:50. > :33:54.is a danger that we on this part of the United Kingdom almost take the
:33:55. > :33:58.peace process for granted. I don't think people here fully recognise
:33:59. > :34:01.the absolutely critical role that Martin McGuinness had in bringing us
:34:02. > :34:04.to where we are today. Peter Taylor, thank you.
:34:05. > :34:05.You're watching a specially extended BBC Newsline
:34:06. > :34:08.on the day that the death of Martin McGuinness was announced.
:34:09. > :34:13.Later we get reaction from Dublin and from some of the churches.
:34:14. > :34:21.Now let's go back to Londonderry and to Tara for more political reaction.
:34:22. > :34:29.Thank you. Joining me on Derry's Walls now are the Sinn Fein MLA
:34:30. > :34:32.Raymond McCartney and the SDLP lead Colum easted with. We have heard
:34:33. > :34:37.about the complex character Martin McGuinness was, who was he in your
:34:38. > :34:40.view? He was a lifelong friend. Someone who overmany, many years be
:34:41. > :34:44.it political or personal, someone you could always go and get good
:34:45. > :34:48.advice from. He certainly was a leader. He certainly ensured that
:34:49. > :34:51.whatever challenges the peace process brought he brought good
:34:52. > :34:55.explanations, good understanding and showed everyone of us the way to go
:34:56. > :34:58.forward. We have heard from some victims today who feel they can't
:34:59. > :35:02.forgive and who feel there are questions that they will never now
:35:03. > :35:05.get answers to. Well, I think everyone's entitled to their opinion
:35:06. > :35:10.and certainly we are entitled to ours. Martin, when he was asked to
:35:11. > :35:14.come forward, did say that he would want every person to have access to
:35:15. > :35:19.truth and justice. Unfortunately, now Martin has passed away, but
:35:20. > :35:22.certainly the legacy which he leaves will ensure that republicans and all
:35:23. > :35:26.of us through dialogue will ensure people get truth and justice. Who
:35:27. > :35:30.was the Martin McGuinness you knew? We have talked all day about
:35:31. > :35:33.Martin's journey and that's been well rehearsed but Martin is someone
:35:34. > :35:37.who people in this city came to know and people around the world came to
:35:38. > :35:40.know as somebody in the last few decades of his life who committed
:35:41. > :35:44.absolutely to the peace process and there's been a lot of debate about
:35:45. > :35:47.this and some people said it was a tactic, I don't think it was. I
:35:48. > :35:50.think it was a principle that Martin McGuinness truly believed that the
:35:51. > :35:53.best way forward for this country was through peaceful means and
:35:54. > :35:57.through the institutions that he helped create and helped maintain
:35:58. > :36:00.and I suppose we are all now trying to save those institutions but
:36:01. > :36:03.somebody I think who deserves immense credit for what he came to
:36:04. > :36:07.and more importantly almost in the way that he brought others with him.
:36:08. > :36:11.That's very, very important. Especially today and there will be
:36:12. > :36:14.plenty of time for debating his full legacy in the next number of years
:36:15. > :36:19.but I think we have to be very thankful for the work that he did to
:36:20. > :36:24.bring people with him and to maintain the institutions that we
:36:25. > :36:27.now have, or hopefully have. Yet you were politically opponents even
:36:28. > :36:32.though you wanted the same outcome. We had many an argument in public or
:36:33. > :36:36.private but we always had in the short number of years that I knew
:36:37. > :36:40.him in my current capacity we always had a very warm relationship and he
:36:41. > :36:43.always showed me great respect and was always very good at asking about
:36:44. > :36:46.your personal life and everything else. Somebody I suppose that you
:36:47. > :36:49.could argue with in the room and then have a pleasant conversation
:36:50. > :36:54.with after. I think that's a skill that not everybody has. But it's one
:36:55. > :36:57.that Martin absolutely had and I think that allowed him to reach
:36:58. > :37:00.beyond his own constituency and his own base and bring people with him
:37:01. > :37:05.and help people understand him I suppose in his own position. I think
:37:06. > :37:09.that stood him in good stead over the last number of years and allowed
:37:10. > :37:13.all of us to have a relationship whilst maybe disagreeing on many
:37:14. > :37:19.things. And when it comes to the victims we have heard from today,
:37:20. > :37:24.people like Kathleen Gillespie here in Derry, she feels she will never
:37:25. > :37:27.forgive. It's understandable that victims today will have a very
:37:28. > :37:31.difficult day. I think we all have to recognise that. But we also have
:37:32. > :37:35.to embrace what's happened in the last number of decades. Many people
:37:36. > :37:38.in this society have difficult histories and histories that I
:37:39. > :37:42.wouldn't agree with or support. But we have to take people as we see
:37:43. > :37:45.them. We have to hope that people are committed truly to peaceful
:37:46. > :37:49.means and I did find that Martin was. And I think he showed that by
:37:50. > :37:54.his actions, but all of us now have to get together to make sure that
:37:55. > :37:58.all of the victims have the truth and justice that they require and I
:37:59. > :38:01.think that's the intense period that we need to move into in the next few
:38:02. > :38:06.days to make sure all people have access to the truth and all of us
:38:07. > :38:09.have responsibilities around that. Will there will be an additional
:38:10. > :38:12.push from Sinn Fein to get the institutions running again? There
:38:13. > :38:16.will be and Sinn Fein over the last number of weeks have been intensely
:38:17. > :38:21.involved in the dialogue and I think it would be a good lasting legacy to
:38:22. > :38:24.the memory of Martin McGuinness to have the institutions back in place
:38:25. > :38:30.which he worked very, very hard, both to create and maintain over a
:38:31. > :38:34.long number of years and a big part of his strength of character was
:38:35. > :38:37.many times ensuring initiative was shown, that compromise was reached
:38:38. > :38:40.through dialogue to ensure the institutions would work for the
:38:41. > :38:48.people who elect us to do our job. Thank you very much for joining us.
:38:49. > :38:50.Vp Martin McGuinness was seldom out
:38:51. > :38:54.but he made sure his family were kept away from the cameras.
:38:55. > :38:56.Our political correspondent Enda McClafferty has been looking
:38:57. > :38:58.back at Martin McGuinness's life away from politics.
:38:59. > :39:01.Martin McGuinness was first and foremost a family man who cherished
:39:02. > :39:04.his time away from politics. With his wife and four children he spents
:39:05. > :39:09.most of his life on the same street in the Bogside. A short distance
:39:10. > :39:13.away, the two bedroomed house where he was brought up with his five
:39:14. > :39:19.brothers and sister. There were seven children in our family. There
:39:20. > :39:25.were nine of us living in the house. Two bedroomed house. Not easy. Very
:39:26. > :39:29.cramped, very difficult. His father died in 1973. Leaving his late
:39:30. > :39:34.mother Peggy to run the house. This is my job, making the tea. Your job
:39:35. > :39:41.is to sit down and for me... I was afraid you wouldn't know where to
:39:42. > :39:45.go. That will be the day! In 1974 Martin McGuinness married his wife
:39:46. > :39:49.Bernie, just days after being released from prison in the
:39:50. > :39:54.Republic. I was at the wedding, him and Bernie's wedding. He was a big,
:39:55. > :39:57.big family man. He came from a big family. Very important family
:39:58. > :40:01.tradition going back a few centuries. And then of course he was
:40:02. > :40:05.keen and very determined, he was going to create his own family and
:40:06. > :40:09.he did and they're very, very pleasant family to meet. Throughout
:40:10. > :40:13.his time in politics the former Deputy First Minister went to great
:40:14. > :40:18.lengths to keep his family out of the spotlight. Well, I set out not
:40:19. > :40:23.to indoctrinate my children in any way. I wanted them to be normal
:40:24. > :40:29.children. None of them are involved in Sinn Fein. I presume they would
:40:30. > :40:32.vote for their da! Martin McGuinness was planning to retire in May and
:40:33. > :40:37.his family say he was looking forward to spending more time with
:40:38. > :40:41.his grandchildren. As it turned out, his last public appearance was where
:40:42. > :40:47.his political journey started. On a street in the Bogside.
:40:48. > :40:50.For many years Mr McGuinness held the Westminster seat
:40:51. > :40:53.for the Mid Ulster constituency and represented it at the Assembly.
:40:54. > :40:55.Maggie Taggart has been getting reaction to his death
:40:56. > :41:07.Mid Ulster was Martin McGuinness's political stomping ground from 1997
:41:08. > :41:14.until 2013 as a Westminster member of parliament. And also as MLA for
:41:15. > :41:19.the area from 1998 until 2016. In the election earlier this month Mid
:41:20. > :41:22.Ulster showed its republican credentials by electing three Sinn
:41:23. > :41:26.Fein members to Stormont. The former First Minister was well known and
:41:27. > :41:32.appreciated in Maghera, a mainly Catholic town. Very, very sad.
:41:33. > :41:36.Martin was here the day that we opened the hotel here, so he was.
:41:37. > :41:40.And, he's done a lot of work for the whole country, so he has, will be
:41:41. > :41:48.sadly missed. We will never see the like of him again. He is unique as
:41:49. > :41:53.far as I am concerned. And a master politician, a good diplomat. I think
:41:54. > :41:58.he did a lot for the peace process. I wasn't a supporter of Sinn Fein, I
:41:59. > :42:04.am not a supporter of Sinn Fein, but I think he had a warmth about him
:42:05. > :42:10.that carried the peace process forward. We didn't shed any tears.
:42:11. > :42:13.You are not a symphathiser? No. Didn't get a vote anyway. It's a
:42:14. > :42:18.pity the family and that's about all. He is no more important or no
:42:19. > :42:25.less important than any of the rest of us. We are all equal. The day of
:42:26. > :42:31.judgment will decide. Although Mid Ulster is in the main republican and
:42:32. > :42:35.nationalist constituency, there are some pockets of unionist support.
:42:36. > :42:39.Here local people were reluckant to make any comment in Tobermore. But
:42:40. > :42:44.most had little sympathy for Martin McGuinness. He got what he deserved,
:42:45. > :42:47.I suppose. That's all I would say. Well, really at the end of the day
:42:48. > :42:55.he might have done a lot for peace but we have to look at what he done
:42:56. > :42:57.40 years ago. He had in the IRA and had started the thing there wouldn't
:42:58. > :43:01.have been call for peace. Martin McGuinness had opted to leave Mid
:43:02. > :43:05.Ulster to stand in his home city for the Foyle constituency but his
:43:06. > :43:07.achievements and his past history will be remembered here for good or
:43:08. > :43:23.ill. Let's get a Church perspective. Are
:43:24. > :43:29.people entitled to not forgive the sins of the past, we have heard a
:43:30. > :43:36.lot from victims today? There's been a very wide reaction or range of
:43:37. > :43:43.reactions today. A huge spectrum and maybe that's not surprising. I think
:43:44. > :43:46.Martin McGuinness has a vote or even provoked quite diverse reactions.
:43:47. > :43:52.There are some who have said so who find it difficult to forgive. There
:43:53. > :43:58.are others who are trying to come to terms with the past and I think what
:43:59. > :44:03.we need to do is encourage all of them because some devastating losses
:44:04. > :44:07.have been experienced, some great pain has been borne by lots of
:44:08. > :44:13.people and today it has brought it to the surface. I think that's one
:44:14. > :44:18.of the things that's happening is the strength of reactions have come
:44:19. > :44:24.from the heart, to the mind and people are expressing how they have
:44:25. > :44:29.felt and maybe - they may not have expressed it for sometime. And what
:44:30. > :44:33.would you say to people who are struggling today? I suppose the
:44:34. > :44:39.death of Martin McGuinness has evoked all sorts of reactions. I
:44:40. > :44:41.acknowledge there are as many people in my community, the Catholic
:44:42. > :44:44.nationalist community who have issues with Martin McGuinness
:44:45. > :44:48.because of his past, and I think we have to acknowledge that. As many
:44:49. > :44:53.people as in the Protestant and unionist community and I think that
:44:54. > :44:57.people are entitled to their views and acknowledge the fact that they
:44:58. > :45:01.have experienced tremendous hurt and the death of Martin today maybe has
:45:02. > :45:04.brought that hurt to the foreagain. And maybe emotions are very raw. It
:45:05. > :45:08.will be very challenging time for them. Particularly when they hear
:45:09. > :45:13.people praising him when they've had a different experience. What's your
:45:14. > :45:18.personal view of his legacy? Well, my personal view of his legacy was
:45:19. > :45:24.that Martin was in my opinion a man who didn't seek glory for himself,
:45:25. > :45:28.but that when Martin made the decision to follow the route of
:45:29. > :45:33.peace that he became very enthusiastic about it and I recently
:45:34. > :45:35.was talking to Martin and I expressed the fact that in a peace
:45:36. > :45:40.process that we now call it, it's been going on for a long time, that
:45:41. > :45:43.there are many road blocks and there are humps in the road and sometimes
:45:44. > :45:47.I said to him, Martin, you never feel like chucking it and throwing
:45:48. > :45:50.your hat at it and I said, you know, he said, no, this is the only way,
:45:51. > :45:55.the future for the north of Ireland has to be better than the past. He
:45:56. > :46:00.said we have to keep working at it each and every day and that was
:46:01. > :46:02.within the last month he said that. You knew him obviously very well,
:46:03. > :46:05.close friends over the past ten years, do you think if more people
:46:06. > :46:09.had known him the way you do they might have a different view or do
:46:10. > :46:14.you feel it's too complex for that? It certainly is complex. There are
:46:15. > :46:18.no easy answers. However, I think when you have an opportunity to get
:46:19. > :46:24.to know someone and to listen to their story then you begin to see a
:46:25. > :46:29.different kind of person and I have discovered on my ten-year journey
:46:30. > :46:34.with Martin that if you focus solely on what the person was in the past
:46:35. > :46:39.you miss seeing who the person has become.
:46:40. > :46:48.Could Republicans have done more in terms of the victims? I think the
:46:49. > :46:53.answer to that is there is always more could be done. Let's look at
:46:54. > :47:02.the transformation that took place within Martin's life. It's as if one
:47:03. > :47:06.day a finger tapped a shoulder and an about turn, almost like Saint
:47:07. > :47:10.Paul, took place. He started travelling in a different direction
:47:11. > :47:16.and I think that direction is helpful to people wherever they are
:47:17. > :47:23.on their own journey. People at my church say to me, dreadful what you
:47:24. > :47:26.are doing, but other people say if people were doing 40 years ago what
:47:27. > :47:32.you have done then some people in my family would still be still alive.
:47:33. > :47:36.Thank you very much indeed. Interesting to hear your thoughts
:47:37. > :47:38.this evening. We will be back later in the programme. For now, back to
:47:39. > :47:40.you, Donna. This afternoon all sides of the Dail
:47:41. > :47:43.stood for a moment's reflection on the death of the former
:47:44. > :47:45.Deputy First Minister. The Taoiseach, Enda Kenny,
:47:46. > :47:48.told the House that the passing of Martin McGuinness
:47:49. > :47:50.was a significant loss and not For more reaction
:47:51. > :47:53.I'm joined now by our Dublin Shane, what else did
:47:54. > :48:04.Enda Kenny have to say? The Taoiseach said that he took the
:48:05. > :48:09.path from terrorism to peace. A remarkable political journey. That
:48:10. > :48:13.sentiment was reflected across the the Dail when they stood for a
:48:14. > :48:18.minute's reflection on his life. Mr Kenny said it was a mark of the man
:48:19. > :48:22.that he worked so closely with Ian Paisley and he did to strive for a
:48:23. > :48:26.better Northern Ireland for everyone. Speaking outside the
:48:27. > :48:30.chamber Mr Kenny said that as a politician Martin McGuinness was
:48:31. > :48:37.courtiers, generous and committed to peace. In Martin McGuinness the
:48:38. > :48:42.public figure, we have lost a peacemaker who moved from days of
:48:43. > :48:45.terrorism to truce, through peace to government and played an
:48:46. > :48:49.extraordinary part in the development of the peace process. In
:48:50. > :48:52.many ways, many of the young people in Northern Ireland can look to the
:48:53. > :48:59.contribution he made at the ending of the troubles when they have
:49:00. > :49:06.become history. Politicians in the Dail reflected on where the journey
:49:07. > :49:10.ended. Others outside, victims of violence, said the site of where
:49:11. > :49:17.that journey began should not be lost. Martin McGuinness was
:49:18. > :49:25.confronted on the street by David Kelly whose father and Irish soldier
:49:26. > :49:33.was murdered. Today, Austin Stack, whose father was fatally shot in
:49:34. > :49:35.1980, said that while Martin McGuinness had reconciled with
:49:36. > :49:41.unionist politicians, he hadn't done so with victims. We asked the DUP to
:49:42. > :49:44.come on the programme this evening but no one was available. With
:49:45. > :49:49.BLEEPED With me is the former head
:49:50. > :49:51.of the executive communications office at Stormont and former
:49:52. > :49:54.political editor here at the BBC, Stephen Grimason and the BBC's
:49:55. > :50:05.former Ireland correspondent How different was Martin McGuinness
:50:06. > :50:09.in front of the camera and behind? There wasn't an awful lot of
:50:10. > :50:15.difference. He could be very funny. He had an impish sense of humour and
:50:16. > :50:19.was involved in a lot of silly behaviour but all the while he had a
:50:20. > :50:27.very determined attitude to where he wanted to get to politically. The
:50:28. > :50:30.public when they see the deputy and First Minister especially in times
:50:31. > :50:37.of tragedy like to see them together. How difficult was it to
:50:38. > :50:41.get the first to Deputy First Ministers, Ian Paisley, Arlene
:50:42. > :50:45.Foster, Peter Robinson together? No difficulty at all with Ian Paisley.
:50:46. > :50:50.The chuckle Brothers thing that started as an insult that became
:50:51. > :50:57.something they like to hear because in a sense, they were putting it
:50:58. > :51:04.back to their critics. That Chuckle Brothers time had an impact on the
:51:05. > :51:12.parties. The DUP became nervous about how close the relations were.
:51:13. > :51:17.Also, Sinn Fein weren't happy that Martin was seen as the deputy. Once
:51:18. > :51:23.Ian Paisley departed from the First Minister post it became altogether
:51:24. > :51:26.tougher and immediately, it was a five-month interregnum with no
:51:27. > :51:31.executive meetings when Peter Robinson came in. In the end, a
:51:32. > :51:41.relationship was forged and they did stand together, following the murder
:51:42. > :51:46.of two soldiers at Nazarene in 2005. That was the time that Martin
:51:47. > :51:50.McGuinness said that the dissidents were traitors and that was a very
:51:51. > :51:56.significant moment. I don't think anybody expected that to be said by
:51:57. > :52:02.him. On a lighter moment, is there anything that stands out for you as
:52:03. > :52:06.Martin McGuinness the leader? Wherever he went in the world,
:52:07. > :52:15.wherever he was asked to give advice on peace, he wrote one word on the
:52:16. > :52:21.blackboard, that word was "Leadership". On the lighter front,
:52:22. > :52:25.when Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness first came to office,
:52:26. > :52:29.they wanted to take Stormont Castle back from the then Secretary of
:52:30. > :52:35.State so a letter was composed to Peter Hain to say, please get out of
:52:36. > :52:41.the castle. At the end of that exchange, Martin said to Ian, the
:52:42. > :52:51.first thing you've done is to write a Brit out letter! He immediately
:52:52. > :52:57.said, what about the occupier? On other occasions, all sorts of fun
:52:58. > :53:04.happened, once in front of a bemused Chinese delegation they talked about
:53:05. > :53:08.the benefit of walls. They compared the Chinese wall to Wall is in
:53:09. > :53:13.prison. Not always easy to get our sense of humour. The lights have
:53:14. > :53:19.gone down here. Let's reflect on the day with our political
:53:20. > :53:22.correspondent. It's hard to believe that just four months ago Martin
:53:23. > :53:27.McGuinness was a picture of health. It's incredible when you think back
:53:28. > :53:30.to November and Arlene Foster and Martin McGuinness setting out their
:53:31. > :53:34.stall where to go with power-sharing. Now, power-sharing
:53:35. > :53:39.has unravelled and people are mourning the passing of Martin
:53:40. > :53:43.McGuinness. It has been an incredible four months. Today has
:53:44. > :53:49.been a day to come to terms with the fact that Martin McGuinness is no
:53:50. > :53:53.longer among them. He has been a political figure for the city for a
:53:54. > :54:03.long time. It is hard to believe that he will no longer walk the
:54:04. > :54:10.streets of the Bogside behind us. There has been a change from this
:54:11. > :54:13.morning to this evening. This morning, people were respectful and
:54:14. > :54:17.echoed their sentiments to their family but later on the voices of
:54:18. > :54:25.the people who lost loved ones at the hands of the IRA have grown
:54:26. > :54:29.louder. Martin McGuinness divided people in life and will do so in
:54:30. > :54:34.death. But people may reflect on what he tried to do at the start of
:54:35. > :54:39.his journey became very different. Perhaps we should judge him on what
:54:40. > :54:45.he did at the end rather than what went before. He moved far beyond his
:54:46. > :54:49.comfort zone here in the Bogside. He moved Republicans into a whole new
:54:50. > :54:54.sphere that they were never in, like when they met the Queen that night.
:54:55. > :54:58.It will be interesting to see whether his party can continue on
:54:59. > :55:03.that work that Martin McGuinness was involved in, in terms of
:55:04. > :55:08.reconciliation. Of it was wrapped around his own personality. Lots of
:55:09. > :55:13.work still to be done. From Derry, back to you, Donna.
:55:14. > :55:16.We had planned to bring you the story of a self-confessed
:55:17. > :55:18.child abuser who was never brought to justice.
:55:19. > :55:21.Because of today's events we'll return to that at a later date.
:55:22. > :55:30.The weather forecast is next with Geoff Maskell.
:55:31. > :55:38.Snow showers arrived last night, this was the scene at dawn. Once the
:55:39. > :55:42.sun got active, it turned into a rather lovely day. It is certainly
:55:43. > :55:48.going to be a cold night tonight. We've got clear skies. We've also
:55:49. > :55:55.got very light winds. That allows cold winds to come. It would not be
:55:56. > :55:58.unreasonable to see temperatures as low as minus four degrees in role
:55:59. > :56:13.spots. -- Roux -- rural. We are on the edge of a
:56:14. > :56:20.weather system that is giving a miserable day to north-west England
:56:21. > :56:25.and east coast of Ireland. Always the best chance of seeing some
:56:26. > :56:30.brightness tomorrow is further west. Temperatures six or 7 degrees.
:56:31. > :56:34.Because we have cloud cover sitting over us, as we going to the evening,
:56:35. > :56:39.it means that temperatures tomorrow night will not be nearly as cold as
:56:40. > :56:45.they are tonight. Temperatures staying above freezing just about
:56:46. > :56:49.everywhere. As we go through this week, our weather is improving,
:56:50. > :56:50.high-pressure moving in and looking good as we head towards this
:56:51. > :57:09.weekend. Today, as we have announced the
:57:10. > :57:29.death of Martin McGuinness, we look back upon his life.
:57:30. > :57:35.Hello there. How are you keeping? Fine, thank you very much. Very glad
:57:36. > :58:24.to be back here. OK, gentlemen, we will have
:58:25. > :58:28.questions first.