:00:04. > :00:10.Welcome to a special edition of Wales Today. It's all about your
:00:10. > :00:14.money, or the lack of it. We're calling it Crunch Christmas. Food
:00:14. > :00:17.for thought here tonight. The rate inflation drops slightly, but what
:00:17. > :00:21.you earn on average still isn't keeping pace with the cost of
:00:21. > :00:24.living. Food, petrol, heating. Gas and
:00:24. > :00:30.electric have gone up. On the whole, not many things are coming down,
:00:30. > :00:33.unfortunately. We can control the flow of water
:00:33. > :00:38.around this part of the Welsh coast, but the levers of our economy lie
:00:38. > :00:41.in Westminster. So, what influence can politicians here really have?
:00:41. > :00:51.We have no taxation powers, but we use the levers we already have.
:00:51. > :00:52.
:00:52. > :01:02.What are those levers? Providing the money to build new schools, and
:01:02. > :01:12.
:01:12. > :01:16.Good evening. Also tonight: Is this the future for television
:01:16. > :01:19.here? Cardiff and Swansea are to get their own local stations, but
:01:19. > :01:22.critics warn there's not enough money to make it work.
:01:22. > :01:27.And Chaz Davies is crowned BBC Cymru Wales Sports Personality of
:01:27. > :01:37.the Year. We'll bring you all the winners from one of the biggest
:01:37. > :01:39.
:01:39. > :01:42.Welcome to Ogmore Vale Bakery in Bridgend. Christmas is only two
:01:43. > :01:48.weeks away and staff here have been busy baking cakes and tarts for
:01:48. > :01:52.customers across the world. It's a challenging time to be in business.
:01:52. > :01:56.Inflation figures out this morning have fallen for a second month in a
:01:56. > :02:00.row. That will be welcomed here, but it still remains well above the
:02:00. > :02:05.two per cent target. What does that mean for you? Quite simply, your
:02:05. > :02:07.money doesn't stretch so far. How do they work all this out? The most
:02:07. > :02:10.frequently used measures of inflation are the Consumer Prices
:02:10. > :02:13.Index, or CPI, which looks at the prices of everything from bread to
:02:13. > :02:23.petrol, and the Retail Prices Index, or RPI, which includes your housing
:02:23. > :02:30.
:02:30. > :02:33.costs. CPI fell from 5% last month to 4.8% last month. The fall was
:02:33. > :02:40.partly due to a slowdown in the rise in food and non-alcoholic
:02:40. > :02:43.drink prices. But the prices of some essentials are rocketing. Your
:02:43. > :02:50.electricity, gas and other fuels have gone up by more than 20% last
:02:50. > :03:00.year. And wages here aren't keeping pace with the cost of living. The
:03:00. > :03:03.
:03:03. > :03:04.average weekly wage in Wales is �454. In a moment, we'll be finding
:03:04. > :03:13.out about how inflation is affecting this business. Let's go
:03:13. > :03:19.to Lampeter to see how finances are being squeezed. Prices are
:03:19. > :03:27.disgusting. You have got to shop around. You can get some cheap
:03:27. > :03:35.things. It is very expensive. left it near the coast. The price
:03:35. > :03:41.of diesel, everything is dear. The further you go away from the big
:03:41. > :03:48.centres of business and industry. Buying essential things in life
:03:48. > :03:54.like food, petrol, heating, Gas and Electric has gone up. On the whole,
:03:54. > :04:02.not many things are coming down. I think the biggest impact is the
:04:02. > :04:07.fact that salaries are have frozen. These products are going to markets
:04:07. > :04:11.as far afield as America. In every corner of the country, it is the
:04:11. > :04:13.season for panto. It is the season for panto all
:04:13. > :04:19.across the country. Our reporter Matthew Richards has been to
:04:20. > :04:27.Wrexham, where they're making a drama out of the financial crisis.
:04:27. > :04:31.I was just telling our friends how pool where we are. When a burglar
:04:31. > :04:34.broke into our house, he left us money.
:04:34. > :04:37.It's a feeling more and more of us are starting to recognise. The
:04:37. > :04:44.economic slowdown has added extra resonance to Grove Park Theatre's
:04:44. > :04:51.version of Jack and the Beanstalk. Andrew Maskall plays the Dame.
:04:51. > :04:57.lost my job. By was a drama teacher. Eight months after that, I had to
:04:57. > :05:02.sell my car because I could not afford to get it fixed. Being out
:05:02. > :05:09.of work, being on the benefits and the lack of opportunities with the
:05:09. > :05:13.economy, it all plays a part. So, what is inflation? Our hero
:05:13. > :05:15.Jack can help explain. It reflects the cost of all kinds of goods.
:05:15. > :05:17.It's calculated by adding up a typical basket of products from
:05:17. > :05:20.electricity charges, mortgage interest payments, electronics,
:05:20. > :05:24.cars and food. Like the beanstalk, it's shot up over recent months,
:05:24. > :05:27.but the rate is falling as some prices are cut or frozen. When
:05:27. > :05:31.Katie Cooney isn't playing the Fairy Flash, she's counting the
:05:31. > :05:41.cost of Christmas for her five- year-old daughter Molly. She
:05:41. > :05:51.
:05:51. > :05:54.doesn't have a magic wand to help her, so she's... I try to work out
:05:54. > :06:04.how a king get things from different shops. In terms of rent,
:06:04. > :06:05.
:06:05. > :06:13.they have gone up. It is a case of trying to make ends meet. The of
:06:13. > :06:18.the attack has frozen prices. are looking at places where there
:06:18. > :06:23.is a minimum costume change, we are looking at plays, even at the
:06:23. > :06:28.potential of finding a royalty free place because the cost of royalty
:06:28. > :06:32.is eats into the budget so much. All these factors make a difference
:06:32. > :06:37.to the ultimate economic reality of running the theatre. As the curtain
:06:37. > :06:41.closes, it looks as though 2012 will see an encore for our money
:06:41. > :06:51.woes. But if a jacket can overcome his problem, Perhaps there is hope
:06:51. > :06:52.
:06:52. > :06:55.That is the situation there. Bacchae at the bakery, if you are
:06:55. > :07:00.slightly confused looking at the products, they have moved off
:07:00. > :07:06.Christmas, they are now working on Easter treats and Valentines of
:07:06. > :07:10.products. We are also seeing some Chinese markings. Things may cheer
:07:10. > :07:15.are exported to Japan, China and America. Let's talk to the boss of
:07:15. > :07:20.the bakery. You are on the front line. What does inflation mean to
:07:20. > :07:25.you. The biggest impact has certainly been in commodity prices
:07:25. > :07:29.which we have seen over the last year pushing up the cost of raw
:07:29. > :07:35.materials, hence pushing up the price to the end consumer.
:07:35. > :07:40.Fortunately, the last month has seen a plateau in that. I can see
:07:40. > :07:45.the ongoing pressures still coming through. The cost of goods will
:07:45. > :07:50.continue to rise. T Pass this rising cost of your petrol and
:07:50. > :07:55.chopped raw ingredients on to the customers? There is a combination.
:07:55. > :08:00.Some, we have no choice, we have to. Others, we have to look at the
:08:00. > :08:05.project and look to see if we can actually compromise its lightly,
:08:05. > :08:12.maybe on the weight of the product, to maintain a price so that we are
:08:12. > :08:17.not compromising the quality of the product. How to Welsh businesses
:08:17. > :08:20.combat the effects of inflation, which they are all suffering from?
:08:20. > :08:24.Given what we have just church, it illustrates that they are being
:08:24. > :08:28.squeezed from both sides because prices are rising faster than they
:08:28. > :08:32.can pass on. The answer is threefold. It is finding new
:08:32. > :08:37.markets. It is finding ways of doing the things differently in
:08:37. > :08:41.terms of making more efficiency, organising their processes.
:08:42. > :08:48.Ultimately, it is about to innovating to create different
:08:48. > :08:53.projects to the future. This firm is exporting to China and the
:08:53. > :08:56.United States. That is the message to every Welsh business. It is
:08:56. > :09:00.looking to new markets, markets where there are still high levels
:09:00. > :09:05.of income. Those are not the markets of the UK or the European
:09:05. > :09:10.Union at the moment. We are starting to build up a picture of
:09:10. > :09:14.what it is like to be in business. Also to deal with the present state
:09:14. > :09:19.of the economy. And what it is like to be a shop and finding that your
:09:19. > :09:22.money does not stretch as far as you might hope. What are the
:09:23. > :09:27.answers? When it comes to trying to do things for the Welsh economy,
:09:27. > :09:33.the answers do not like close at home. The leaders of the Welsh
:09:33. > :09:38.economy are run in Westminster. Here is our political editor.
:09:38. > :09:42.global crisis. A storm that has caused Europe's governments to
:09:42. > :09:48.grasp every economically the they have. For Wales, the economic
:09:48. > :09:53.outlook is not bright. It is the First Minister war has talked about
:09:53. > :09:58.not sitting back, not letting the economic tide to wash over us. But
:09:58. > :10:06.when it comes to control, when it comes to turning that tide, which
:10:06. > :10:10.economic patterns does his Government have to press? The Welsh
:10:10. > :10:15.Government cannot very how much tax we pay. It cannot raise it or put
:10:15. > :10:20.it. What about interest rates? No cloud over those either. Another
:10:20. > :10:25.was, this Government cannot affect how much money it has to pump into
:10:25. > :10:31.the Welsh economy. What can it do? It can give the struggling
:10:31. > :10:35.businesses and those keen to expand many to spend on protecting and
:10:35. > :10:40.creating jobs. The boss year says that happen now would allow his
:10:40. > :10:44.business to grow in the future. Government can directly fund growth
:10:44. > :10:50.in businesses and enable us to access capital investment which is
:10:50. > :10:55.difficult to run -- to access at the moment, such as investing in
:10:55. > :11:01.the software we create she which will directly created jobs and
:11:01. > :11:04.high-value jobs queue. Government can offer lifelines.
:11:04. > :11:09.There is rate relief for small businesses. But can inject the
:11:09. > :11:13.money it gets into the economy by a big building projects. Labour says
:11:13. > :11:18.it is doing just that, but not enough money is flowing into the
:11:18. > :11:25.economy, say opposition parties. have no taxation powers, but we use
:11:25. > :11:29.the levers we to have. Providing the money to build new schools,
:11:29. > :11:34.build new houses, that does not just provide new spaces for new
:11:34. > :11:38.students and also for people who want a roof over their heads, it
:11:38. > :11:43.provides jobs in the construction industry. The UK Government says it
:11:43. > :11:47.may be time to devolve more financial powers to the Assembly.
:11:47. > :11:52.That would put an end to what they see as a constant plane -- blame
:11:52. > :11:56.game played in Cardiff. This is a mature way to ensure the Assembly
:11:56. > :12:02.in a Welsh Government that the responsibility they neat tool
:12:02. > :12:12.ensure that the administration does not perpetually demand more powers
:12:12. > :12:12.
:12:12. > :12:15.and more money. The big economic levers certainly are not in Cardiff
:12:15. > :12:20.Bay. But the challenge for the Welsh Government is to prove that
:12:20. > :12:25.what it can do is making a difference. While steering clear of
:12:25. > :12:33.bearing any blame for what it cannot. But bigger be put -- a
:12:33. > :12:38.couple of those points with a Professor David Pickernell. We
:12:38. > :12:43.heard a lot about what the Welsh Government should do. And what
:12:43. > :12:47.Westminster should do about the wider problem. Realistically, what
:12:47. > :12:53.can ministers in Cardiff Bay do? think from what we have seen
:12:53. > :12:58.previously, wanting to encourage businesses to export an innovator,
:12:58. > :13:02.it is things around that, it is facilitating, helping universities
:13:03. > :13:08.were quite small firms, it is the sort of issues where they can prime
:13:08. > :13:13.the punters and illustrate a way to go. That is what Welsh politicians
:13:13. > :13:17.can do. Let's talk about what Welsh businesses can do for themselves.
:13:17. > :13:22.What can they do? There again, that is looking internally within their
:13:22. > :13:25.businesses to focus on where they can become more efficient, where
:13:25. > :13:30.they can reorganise and Engineer what they're doing, but also
:13:30. > :13:33.looking to see whether projects in other parts of the world have
:13:33. > :13:38.opportunity and to scan more widely than they have had to do before.
:13:38. > :13:48.This is the problem with the lack of growth in the UK and the
:13:48. > :13:48.
:13:48. > :13:52.European Union. It is looking for We're keen to hear how you're
:13:52. > :13:56.coping in the run-up to Christmas. Email us at wales.today@bbc.co.uk,
:13:56. > :14:06.contact us on Twitter via the address on your screen or phone us
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:14:19. > :14:21.on 03703 500 700. We're on Facebook The day's other news now. Councils
:14:21. > :14:25.here aren't doing enough to protect your personal details from falling
:14:25. > :14:28.into the wrong hands. That's the warning from the UK's information
:14:28. > :14:38.watchdog. It's raised concerns after thousands of pieces of
:14:38. > :14:38.
:14:38. > :14:43.personal information were lost or To provide us with all these
:14:43. > :14:49.services, councils need an awful lot of our personal information,
:14:49. > :14:54.names, addresses, date of birth and more sensitive social services data.
:14:54. > :14:59.That information is generally kept in council buildings. Sometimes it
:14:59. > :15:04.needs to be shared. It is downloaded on to laptops or memory
:15:04. > :15:09.sticks or e-mailed on to other people. But problems can arise. In
:15:09. > :15:14.the most serious case, Cardiff Council wrongly sent out an e-mail
:15:14. > :15:19.containing the names and addresses of over 2,000 children on a child
:15:19. > :15:24.protection register. Fortunately, it was sent to the NHS which
:15:24. > :15:29.destroyed the information. The council said quick action meant the
:15:29. > :15:36.disclosure was contained. But the UK information watchdog is
:15:36. > :15:42.concerned. Financial implications and that sort of things. There is
:15:42. > :15:45.also the issue of privacy. If we're talking about sensitive records,
:15:45. > :15:50.people do not want that information put out into the public domain.
:15:51. > :15:57.That is likely to happen. In the last three years, council staff
:15:57. > :16:07.have lost memory sticks with information or they have had them
:16:07. > :16:07.
:16:08. > :16:13.stolen. Laptops have also been stolen from council vehicles.
:16:13. > :16:22.People trust their councils with the most sensitive information as
:16:22. > :16:25.part of the cows as providing services. But they have a serious
:16:26. > :16:32.question to ask, can the council's be trusted to hold that
:16:32. > :16:35.information? With identity theft on the increase, how they take care of
:16:35. > :16:38.the information is becoming increasingly important.
:16:38. > :16:41.The UK Government is proposing to centralise its DVLA services in
:16:41. > :16:44.Swansea as part of plans to close all regional offices across the UK,
:16:44. > :16:48.including those in Bangor and Cardiff. Around 400 jobs could be
:16:48. > :16:51.created in the city. But there are fears that nearly 80 jobs could
:16:51. > :17:01.also be lost here. The head of the organisation in Swansea says they
:17:01. > :17:03.
:17:03. > :17:09.hope to secure as many as possible.. As we look to put more services
:17:09. > :17:12.into intermediaries, centralising some of those services into Swansea
:17:12. > :17:15.will lead to increased job opportunities within Wales.
:17:15. > :17:17.The neo-natal unit at Singleton Hospital in Swansea has fully
:17:17. > :17:20.reopened after test results found there was no further cross
:17:20. > :17:23.infection of E.coli. It was closed last month following the death of
:17:23. > :17:25.two babies with E.coli, one contracted the infection at the
:17:25. > :17:28.hospital. Flintshire Council has voted to
:17:28. > :17:31.press ahead with plans to close a specialist centre for children with
:17:31. > :17:34.autism despite protests by parents. Council officials say too few
:17:34. > :17:40.children use the centre at Westwood Primary School in Buckley and that
:17:40. > :17:43.other facilities are available in Flint.
:17:43. > :17:48.Cardiff and Swansea are among 20 places across the UK to get their
:17:48. > :17:52.own TV Stations within the next two years. The UK Government says the
:17:52. > :18:02.services will meet a demand for local programming. But some are
:18:02. > :18:08.
:18:08. > :18:12.warning the channels won't be It is all about mirroring the
:18:13. > :18:19.American model. Cities, rather than regions, have their own television
:18:19. > :18:23.stations. Cardiff and Swansea will be the first cities in Wales to get
:18:23. > :18:28.their own local TV stations. The UK government is convinced there is a
:18:28. > :18:34.demand for the service. These are not services that will resemble
:18:34. > :18:39.those produced by the BBC, ITV or S4C. They will be on a shoestring
:18:39. > :18:44.in comparison to those services. There have to be produced on far
:18:44. > :18:48.smaller budgets. The BBC has agreed to put up money to start the
:18:48. > :18:53.project across the UK. It is intended that advertising will keep
:18:53. > :19:03.the services on the air. Some critics have claimed there is no
:19:03. > :19:04.
:19:04. > :19:08.need for more channels. This man struggles to see how the new
:19:08. > :19:14.channels will be commercially viable. Everybody is using the
:19:14. > :19:22.internet and people understand it. People are making films. They can
:19:22. > :19:29.upload them and share them. That is what local TV has to be about.
:19:29. > :19:35.and Bangor are other areas identified for future licences. The
:19:35. > :19:37.first channels had due to be up and running within the next two years.
:19:37. > :19:40.Chaz Davies says he's shocked after winning BBC Cymru Wales Sports
:19:40. > :19:43.Personality of the Year. The motorcyclist from Powys, now based
:19:43. > :19:53.in California, became the first Welshman to win a world superbike
:19:53. > :19:56.
:19:56. > :19:59.class title. The winner is Chaz Davies. He might not have been the
:19:59. > :20:00.best known sports personality on the list but he certainly was the
:20:01. > :20:06.most popular. 24-year-old motorcycling champion Chaz Davies
:20:06. > :20:09.from Presteigne in Powys was the surprise winner last night. A
:20:09. > :20:15.fitting finale to a year when he won one of motorcycling's biggest
:20:15. > :20:18.prizes, the World Supersport Series. He couldn't be at the event. He's
:20:18. > :20:25.practising for the new season in California but he did join the
:20:25. > :20:33.ceremony at the Liberty Stadium via videolink. His mother accepted the
:20:33. > :20:37.award on his behalf and said she's proud he's put the sport on the map.
:20:37. > :20:43.I was shocked to get a nomination in the first place. We are going up
:20:43. > :20:49.to get a lot of talented sports people in Wales. To just be
:20:49. > :20:52.nominated but to now when is something that I definitely did not
:20:52. > :20:56.think would happen. Triathlete Helen Jenkins came second in the
:20:56. > :21:00.public vote, followed by Paralympian Nathan Stephens. The
:21:00. > :21:10.team of the year award went to Swansea City. Under Brendan Rogers,
:21:10. > :21:10.
:21:11. > :21:14.they became the first Welsh team to win promotion to the Premier League.
:21:14. > :21:24.The play off final is something that will live with me for the rest
:21:24. > :21:24.
:21:24. > :21:28.of my days. It brought everyone together in the city. We took
:21:28. > :21:31.ourselves up the M4 to Wembley. There was a lifetime achievement
:21:31. > :21:34.award for Anne Ellis from Swansea in recognition of her 50 years to
:21:34. > :21:42.hockey. Once a player, she stills helps out at her local club every
:21:42. > :21:48.weekend. When you consider people who have received this award, they
:21:48. > :21:50.were legends. I am a girl from Swansea who loved hockey. Amazing.
:21:50. > :21:54.There were also two Young Sports Personality Awards. One for gymnast
:21:54. > :21:57.Angel Romaeo, the other for golfer Rhys Pugh.
:21:57. > :22:00.We'll be looking back at a momentous year in Welsh Sport
:22:00. > :22:03.tonight at 10:35pm here on BBC One Wales.
:22:03. > :22:11.The weather has thrown up a bit of everything today. Gales, heavy rain
:22:11. > :22:16.and flooding in some places. And What a day! Heavy rain, sleet,
:22:16. > :22:22.thunder, snow and hail the size of peas. Mark Hillman sent in this
:22:22. > :22:28.picture via Twitter. The road covered in hailstones in
:22:28. > :22:37.Ystradfellte making driving conditions treacherous. We've also
:22:37. > :22:42.had plenty of rain. At the moment, there are 11 flood alerts in force.
:22:42. > :22:47.And one flood warning on the River Dee from Llangollen to Chester.
:22:47. > :22:50.Strong to severe gale force winds as well. At Mumbles Head in Swansea,
:22:50. > :22:54.a gust of 81mph was recorded this afternoon. The reason for the
:22:54. > :22:56.disturbed weather is low pressure. The air over us has come from
:22:56. > :23:02.Greenland so it's unstable, producing towering clouds and
:23:03. > :23:08.showers. Tonight, further heavy showers in the south feeding in
:23:08. > :23:12.from the Bristol Channel. Snow in places, especially on higher ground.
:23:12. > :23:17.The north, dry and clearer. The wind easing but still breezy on the
:23:17. > :23:21.coast. Temps inland falling close to freezing with a frost and a risk
:23:22. > :23:25.of ice. Now there is a snow warning in force covering most of Wales
:23:25. > :23:29.tonight and tomorrow morning. It's a yellow warning, the lowest
:23:29. > :23:33.grading. Widespread problems are not expected but be aware there is
:23:33. > :23:42.some snow in the forecast. Tomorrow morning, northern counties should
:23:42. > :23:46.start dry. Some frost and a risk of ice. Further south and west,
:23:46. > :23:48.showers are likely. Some heavy and wintry. In fact some places,
:23:48. > :23:51.especially the higher communities in the South Wales Valleys, could
:23:51. > :23:54.have a covering of snow. A few sunny intervals tomorrow but
:23:54. > :23:57.showers will become more widespread during the day. Rain, hail and
:23:58. > :24:01.sleet again. Some snow in places but later in the afternoon the
:24:01. > :24:04.showers mostly of rain. Temperatures on the cold side. The
:24:04. > :24:09.wind not as strong as today but still breezy, especially on the
:24:09. > :24:12.coast and gusty at times. Tomorrow night, more rain and heavy showers.
:24:12. > :24:16.Strong to gale force winds in Pembrokeshire. The air less cold,
:24:16. > :24:26.so any snow confined to the very highest ground. Thursday, a breezy
:24:26. > :24:26.
:24:26. > :24:29.day. Some sunshine and scattered showers. Becoming dry for a time
:24:29. > :24:33.but we could be in for another dose of stormy weather Thursday night
:24:33. > :24:40.into Friday. It all depends on an area of low pressure and which path
:24:40. > :24:45.it takes. There is a risk of more heavy rain, flooding and gales but
:24:45. > :24:55.it's not clear cut. So it would be worth keeping a close eye on the
:24:55. > :24:57.
:24:57. > :25:01.forecast over the next couple of days. It's time for a few more of
:25:01. > :25:05.your pictures. The first by Megan Evans from Tonyrefail. The next a
:25:05. > :25:07.Christmas Tree by Keira and Carwyn from Ceredigion. And finally, it
:25:07. > :25:14.looks like Dyfan Morris from Llanffestiniog has made a new
:25:14. > :25:24.friend. Thanks Dyfan. I hope you had a nice time at the Christmas
:25:24. > :25:27.
:25:27. > :25:35.Welcome back to Bridgend, where we've been looking at the high cost
:25:35. > :25:40.of living. Some of you have got in contact with us to share your
:25:41. > :25:45.experiences. John emailed us to say he and his wife get �105 a week.
:25:46. > :25:48.They spend �25 on gas, �20 on electric and �20 on other bills.
:25:48. > :25:54.That leaves them with �40 for shopping which includes bus fares,
:25:54. > :26:01.so it works out they have �32 to live on each week. He says they
:26:01. > :26:04.have to decide whether to eat or And mum of three Karen Collins got
:26:04. > :26:08.in touch to tell us she's really struggling this year to pay for
:26:08. > :26:11.food and heating. She says she and her family will be very cold this
:26:11. > :26:14.Christmas as she can't afford to heat her home as heating oil costs
:26:14. > :26:24.them more than �300 per delivery and she and her boyfriend often
:26:24. > :26:33.
:26:33. > :26:36.only eat one meal a day so they can Thank you for getting in touch with
:26:36. > :26:39.your stories. Tomorrow night, our series of
:26:39. > :26:49.special programmes on the economy in Wales in the run up to Crunch
:26:49. > :26:53.Christmas continues. We're talking about jobs. Here's Sian Lloyd.
:26:53. > :26:58.Unemployment in Wales is at its highest for almost 20 years. Today,
:26:58. > :27:05.we get the figures that we give us a sense of how workers in the
:27:06. > :27:10.public sector at faring. Across BBC Wales, television, radio and on
:27:10. > :27:18.line, we will hear stories of those struggling to cope in the current
:27:18. > :27:22.climate. You'll be asking what can be done to help fund. -- to help
:27:22. > :27:26.them. That is it from us. We'll have an