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:00:08. > :00:10.Good evening. Welcome to Wales Today. This race equality charity

:00:10. > :00:12.received millions in public money before being abolished in a funding

:00:12. > :00:20.scandal. Now a report finds government officials ignored

:00:20. > :00:23.several warnings. It is important small bodies have the proper

:00:23. > :00:28.governments and relationship to make sure that the public purse is

:00:28. > :00:38.protected and money is spent properly. This is the 19th time

:00:38. > :00:45.

:00:45. > :00:49.they have criticised the way the Catherine Going is missing, feared

:00:49. > :00:56.murdered. Her sister flies in from Ireland to appeal for help in

:00:56. > :01:03.finding her. Please look, please search. Please help me find my

:01:03. > :01:07.peaceful sister. -- beautiful sister. The Welsh bees that may

:01:07. > :01:10.hold the key to tackling a deadly superbug. Also tonight - why it

:01:10. > :01:13.could cost you more to watch non- league Newport than the Premier

:01:13. > :01:22.League Champions. And we're at one of the biggest nights for new music,

:01:22. > :01:28.as the winner of the Welsh Music Prize is announced. You may not

:01:28. > :01:30.have heard of them yet. Good evening. A highly critical report

:01:30. > :01:33.has found evidence of multiple failures by the Welsh Government to

:01:33. > :01:36.manage public money given to the collapsed race equality

:01:36. > :01:39.organisation, AWEMA. The Wales Audit Office says the government

:01:39. > :01:49.failed to act on several warnings before AWEMA was brought down by a

:01:49. > :01:53.

:01:53. > :01:57.Here is our correspondent at Senedd. There is very little good news for

:01:58. > :02:02.this report today, the 19th, auditors point out, where they have

:02:02. > :02:06.criticised the government in the way it deals with grant funding. It

:02:06. > :02:10.said that when the scandal broke for the final time last year, the

:02:10. > :02:16.government did act swiftly and robustly, but over many years, they

:02:16. > :02:23.had failed to manage the way many millions of pounds were being spent.

:02:23. > :02:30.More than 11 years elapsed where millions of pounds were given to

:02:30. > :02:35.AWEMA. AWEMA has come under sustained and fierce attack from

:02:35. > :02:38.some of the communities it is meant to represent. It is nine years

:02:38. > :02:44.since BBC Wales started to raise serious questions about the way

:02:44. > :02:48.AWEMA was run. In February this year it was finally wound up. The

:02:48. > :02:55.audit office next clear its concerns today that failure to heed

:02:55. > :02:58.warnings over many years has caused this. There were significant

:02:58. > :03:03.failings at the time. Things were not always followed up as they

:03:03. > :03:07.should have been. When reviews did take place, either they were too

:03:07. > :03:11.narrowly focused, or were not well informed by why intelligence that

:03:12. > :03:18.should have been available, or when recommendations were made, this is

:03:18. > :03:22.no evidence it was followed up. this man was an active member of

:03:22. > :03:25.the Labour Party at the time. Today's report has not found

:03:25. > :03:30.evidence of inappropriate ministerial influence on party

:03:30. > :03:36.political or other lines in the Welsh government decisions about

:03:36. > :03:40.AWEMA's funding, but it criticises the management and the �7 million

:03:40. > :03:46.given to the charity. It points to failures in communication and

:03:46. > :03:51.warnings and opportunities to act missed. They fear that is speaking

:03:51. > :03:57.out as being seen as fear of discrimination. Some of the funding

:03:57. > :04:01.decisions have not been cleared. This GP in Swansea was an assembly

:04:01. > :04:08.member and said he raised concerns with ministers many times but that

:04:08. > :04:12.the money continued slowing. A one of the benefits of being -- flowing.

:04:12. > :04:15.One of the benefits is that you are taken seriously and your

:04:16. > :04:20.recommendations are acted upon and the recommendations you have made

:04:20. > :04:26.have been thoroughly investigated. That did not seem to be the case

:04:26. > :04:30.here. A late last year, realising the debt of the crisis, there were

:04:30. > :04:33.frantic attempts by the government to stop payment of half a million

:04:33. > :04:37.pounds to AWEMA but they failed. The auditors found had officials

:04:37. > :04:42.acted on information given earlier, they could have stopped the money

:04:42. > :04:46.from probably being lost for good. They were departments not talking

:04:46. > :04:50.to each other and be all not talking to people in the same

:04:50. > :04:54.department. All sorts of issues called the catalogue of errors I

:04:54. > :04:59.have referred to it. We had at least eight opportunities for the

:04:59. > :05:03.government to intervene and take this by the horns and deal with the

:05:03. > :05:06.problems once and for all. It a statement, the government said it

:05:06. > :05:09.is already acting on the lessons contained in the report and that

:05:09. > :05:16.work is underway to improve the future management of grants

:05:16. > :05:20.programmes. For those that still support people from ethnic minority

:05:20. > :05:24.backgrounds, people are afraid that thanks to AWEMA, the result will be

:05:25. > :05:30.too much scrutiny. Do not consider every organisation will be like

:05:31. > :05:37.that. They could be over reaction is because of this, particularly on

:05:37. > :05:42.the part of the Welsh government. There is no need for that. There is

:05:42. > :05:46.every need for scrutiny. There is report might be about one body, but

:05:46. > :05:52.the biggest concern is that it raises wider questions about how

:05:52. > :05:56.the government hands out public money and what we get in return.

:05:56. > :05:59.The former boss was not speaking to BBC Wales today. We would have

:05:59. > :06:06.liked to put questions to Welsh government ministers but they are

:06:06. > :06:10.not talking either. But I am joined by a representative from the Audit

:06:11. > :06:16.Office. You seem to be like an organisation that has had enough.

:06:16. > :06:20.You have rarely been so vocal in your criticism, is that right?

:06:20. > :06:23.relation to Grant Management, we have had reports in the past five

:06:23. > :06:29.or six years which have highlighted weaknesses. It is fair to say the

:06:29. > :06:34.government has taken some actions to improve due diligence process

:06:34. > :06:38.and general management of grants. But these issues predate these

:06:38. > :06:41.initiatives and it is too early to say it they will have an impact.

:06:41. > :06:46.But we are critical of the government's handling of these

:06:46. > :06:52.issues. How can it be 19 report? Surely you would have expected

:06:52. > :06:56.things to get better? Why did it have to come to this? We have got

:06:56. > :07:01.the whole issue of the lack of communication and co-ordination

:07:01. > :07:06.that existed in Welsh government and the way it manages grants. That

:07:06. > :07:10.is where it must improve. Without that we will see individual

:07:10. > :07:15.departments and individual sections operating independently without

:07:15. > :07:20.providing overviews. The day we are talking about �7 million but over

:07:20. > :07:25.the years we could be talking about tens of millions. He is impossible

:07:25. > :07:28.to say. We cannot extrapolate everything. But given the

:07:28. > :07:32.weaknesses we have identified in previous reports, there is a lot of

:07:32. > :07:36.money involved and Wales get a lot more grant funding than the rest of

:07:37. > :07:41.the UK and that is something the Government must address. He said

:07:41. > :07:46.they are doing something but it is difficult to tell it that is enough

:07:46. > :07:51.and if it is working. How concerned should the public be? This is their

:07:51. > :07:57.money. I am confident that the commitment the Welsh government has

:07:57. > :08:01.given in terms of their desire to improve and to provide better value

:08:01. > :08:08.for money, it remains to be seen how effective that will be. It will

:08:08. > :08:18.not be easy and will take some time. That is the AWEMA story for today.

:08:18. > :08:21.

:08:21. > :08:24.But I did not think it is done and The sister of a vet, who's missing

:08:24. > :08:27.and feared murdered, has appealed for help in trying to find her.

:08:27. > :08:30.Catherine Going, who's 37 and originally from Ireland, was last

:08:30. > :08:33.seen at a supermarket in Flintshire last Friday. Emma Going said she

:08:33. > :08:36.was the light of her life and pleaded for help to find her

:08:36. > :08:41."beautiful sister". A man has been arrested on suspicion of murder.

:08:41. > :08:45.This report contains flash photography. Over from Ireland to

:08:45. > :08:52.find her missing sister. Emma Gowing and her husband had just one

:08:52. > :09:02.message for people in Wales. Please look, please search. Please help us

:09:02. > :09:06.

:09:06. > :09:16.find My beautiful sister. Catherine is a kind, sensitive and beautiful

:09:16. > :09:17.

:09:17. > :09:25.person. She is passionate and devoted to my family. She is my

:09:25. > :09:35.best friend. She is the light of my life. She is the might of my

:09:35. > :09:40.parent's life. -- the light of my parents's lives. On Monday,

:09:40. > :09:43.Catherine Gowing did not show up for work. Police are searching her

:09:43. > :09:48.home in the village of New Brighton. They say they are looking at other

:09:48. > :09:52.areas as well. Today, they confirmed an important development.

:09:52. > :09:57.Catherine Gowing was last seen at this supermarket last Friday

:09:57. > :10:02.evening at about 8:30pm. She arrived with a brown shoulder bag

:10:02. > :10:06.and left with a bag of shopping and a Peter. Police are trying to trace

:10:06. > :10:12.her car, which has Irish registration plates. It has not

:10:12. > :10:17.been seen since last Friday. What we are urging the public to do is

:10:17. > :10:21.to keep their eyes open for at vehicle. Look at car parks and

:10:21. > :10:25.driveways and waste ground, anywhere where at vehicle might be

:10:25. > :10:30.concealed. The these appeals were echoed by the family of Catherine

:10:30. > :10:36.Gowing. Tonight, police continue to question a 46-year-old man who has

:10:36. > :10:39.been arrested on suspicion of A judge has told a mother who went

:10:39. > :10:42.missing with her four children, she may face jail after appearing to

:10:42. > :10:44.have "flagrantly breached" High Court orders. 46 year-old Jennifer

:10:44. > :10:48.Jones was arrested yesterday after disappearing with her children,

:10:48. > :10:51.aged between eight and 14, from Llanelli on Friday. They were all

:10:51. > :10:54.found safe and well in the Blackwood area. Cwmcarn High School,

:10:54. > :11:00.which was closed last week after airbourne asbestos was found there,

:11:00. > :11:02.is to reopen to all pupils after half term. Caerphilly Council said

:11:02. > :11:08.today tests show the health risk from potential asbestos exposure to

:11:08. > :11:11.pupils and staff is low. The authority added when it closed the

:11:11. > :11:14.school it was acting on advice from a specialist contractor, which also

:11:14. > :11:18.advised the council to consider demolition because of the costs of

:11:18. > :11:21.managing the building. Small reserves of flu vaccines are being

:11:21. > :11:25.made available to help areas where stocks are dwindling. It comes

:11:25. > :11:28.after a company in the Netherlands, which supplies 10% of the UK's flu

:11:28. > :11:38.vaccines, said it has suspended all supplies after a small number of

:11:38. > :11:44.

:11:44. > :11:46.Could the honey produced by bees hold the key to tackling a deadly

:11:47. > :11:49.superbug? That's what scientists at Cardiff University are trying to

:11:50. > :11:52.work out. They've found that honey collected by a beekeeper in Gwynedd

:11:53. > :11:55.can kill bacteria found in MRSA. They are now looking for more

:11:55. > :12:00.samples of similar honey to establish which plants are

:12:00. > :12:03.producing the nectar. These bees are creating quite a buzz. Chris

:12:03. > :12:07.Hickman has been keeping the insects in his back garden in Tywyn

:12:07. > :12:13.for three years. Now it has emerged that their honey could hold the key

:12:13. > :12:18.in the battle against one of our most dangerous superbugs. Bands

:12:18. > :12:23.these shares were the honey has killed the MRSA it. -- this

:12:23. > :12:25.indicates where the honey has killed the MRSA. Scientists at

:12:25. > :12:30.Cardiff University have discovered Chris' honey has properties that

:12:30. > :12:33.can combat MRSA. The infection, commonly found in hospitals,

:12:33. > :12:36.contributed to the death of 364 people in England and Wales last

:12:36. > :12:44.year. Even though that was fewer than in 2010, traditional

:12:44. > :12:48.antibiotics are becoming less effective. We are now seeing the

:12:48. > :12:53.emergence of bacteria which is resistant to the antibiotics. That

:12:53. > :12:59.will cause considerable problems. It will take us back to the pre-

:12:59. > :13:04.antibiotic era in the 1930s when we could not treat fresh diseases. It

:13:04. > :13:13.would be good if we could identify a plant in Wales which could help

:13:13. > :13:15.asked what MRSA. -- help us with. And that's the next step. Professor

:13:16. > :13:18.Baillie and his team are working alongside researchers at the

:13:19. > :13:22.National Botanic Garden of Wales who have a DNA database of Welsh

:13:22. > :13:25.plants. They are trying to work out what's in the honey that makes it

:13:25. > :13:29.so special. But of course there's nothing new about using honey to

:13:29. > :13:34.treat people. It has been around for thousands of years and it has

:13:34. > :13:40.been a natural remedy. Ancient Egyptians used it. It had been used

:13:40. > :13:45.in wound dressings. It had been used for flu. A bit of whisky and

:13:45. > :13:48.honey. Even if it does not cure the disease it makes you feel better.

:13:48. > :13:54.When he isn't tending to his bees, Chris works as a charge nurse in

:13:54. > :14:00.the local community hospital. They already use honey on the ward.

:14:00. > :14:05.do use honey for dressing wounds and treating infections and have

:14:05. > :14:09.done successfully. It was interesting to find that it is

:14:09. > :14:12.produced from Wales and it does seem to have some property that is

:14:12. > :14:15.beneficial. Researchers are now looking for other samples of Welsh

:14:15. > :14:19.honey that have the same qualities as the honey produced by Chris so

:14:19. > :14:22.they can crack the DNA code and work out which plants are producing

:14:22. > :14:24.the nectar used by the bees to create the honey. Using the newest

:14:24. > :14:34.technology, they are hoping to rediscover one of our oldest

:14:34. > :14:40.

:14:40. > :14:44.You're watching Wales Today. Coming up before seven o'clock: the Welsh

:14:44. > :14:47.Music Prize has been announced. will be is a hint of the winners in

:14:47. > :14:51.a few minutes. Can you afford to watch your local

:14:51. > :14:53.football team? If you're a Newport County fan, the cheapest season

:14:53. > :14:57.ticket is more expensive than at Premier League champions,

:14:57. > :15:01.Manchester City. That's one of the findings of a BBC Survey into the

:15:01. > :15:07.Price of Football. Our sports reporter Ashleigh Crowter has been

:15:07. > :15:11.looking at how much fans of Welsh clubs are now having to fork out.

:15:11. > :15:17.There aren't many spare seat says Swansea City for Premier League

:15:17. > :15:25.matches. Season tickets sold out in April. The cheaper season tickets

:15:25. > :15:30.at Swansea costs �429, that is a snare compared with Arsenal. But it

:15:30. > :15:35.is more than the price at Wigan. The cheapest match-day ticket is

:15:35. > :15:41.�35, the fifth most expensive. Swansea do serve the cheapest tea

:15:41. > :15:48.in the top flight. For one person it is not too bad but if you are

:15:48. > :15:54.thinking of the family, probably expensive. It is reasonably priced.

:15:54. > :15:58.The proper fans who used to go to the better it day-in day-out are

:15:58. > :16:06.forced out to go unseeded team they support. For the cheaper season

:16:06. > :16:13.ticket to what Cardiff City is about �100 less than solicitors.

:16:13. > :16:18.Prices in the championship range from two led to a �49 to �485. It

:16:18. > :16:28.is a long way down the league until you reach Newport. The price of a

:16:28. > :16:28.

:16:28. > :16:33.season ticket is �300. You could watch Manchester City for �25 last.

:16:33. > :16:38.Wrexham fans only have to pay �200 for their cheaper season ticket,

:16:38. > :16:45.that is one that best value in the conference. It is too big a stand

:16:45. > :16:51.for some people. Not for Conference football, that is dear. I am a

:16:51. > :16:56.Leeds fan and you can buy a ticket for �35. When I went, when I was

:16:57. > :17:02.about 12, it was about �15. I don't understand where they don't open it

:17:02. > :17:08.to the pensioners. The children particularly. Many football fans

:17:08. > :17:14.are prepared to pay the current prices. Club loyalty is a very

:17:14. > :17:21.strong. In these difficult economic times that they will be some who

:17:21. > :17:25.feel they are being priced out of the game.

:17:25. > :17:27.It was a chapel that played a central role in the Welsh religious

:17:27. > :17:30.revival at the beginning of the 20th century. But Pisgah chapel

:17:30. > :17:33.near Swansea is now under threat of demolition. The building's owners,

:17:33. > :17:36.the Presbytyrian Church of Wales, say it's too costly to maintain but

:17:36. > :17:42.supporters say its historic value is priceless. Our Swansea reporter,

:17:42. > :17:46.James Williams has more. It is difficult to imagine now but his

:17:47. > :17:53.former chapel played a central part in Wales's religious past. It cost

:17:53. > :17:58.of repairs and maintenance at Pisgah Chapel in Loughor has made

:17:58. > :18:03.its economically unviable for his owners. �70,000 of work needs to be

:18:03. > :18:09.done. We, as the Church, has decided that we have to put the

:18:09. > :18:12.site up for sale. This may mean that somebody, a Christian

:18:12. > :18:18.organisation, may come along and renews the building and uses it as

:18:18. > :18:22.a church. But his name means somebody else comes along and

:18:22. > :18:32.demolishes the building. But at the end of the 19th century, Pisgah has

:18:32. > :18:36.gone through many changes. A rich history that campaign is feared to

:18:36. > :18:45.lose. Chappell's closing in Wales are a sign of the times. Many

:18:46. > :18:50.people think this chapel's importance trumps economics. Evan

:18:50. > :18:55.Roberts was an important figure in the revival. It was here that Evan

:18:55. > :18:58.Roberts started his religious pilgrimage. He was one of the main

:18:58. > :19:03.revivalists. This was the schoolhouse where the Sunday school

:19:03. > :19:11.was held and he was one of the teachers. It is central to his

:19:11. > :19:20.history. The rare recording of his preaching from January 1905. His

:19:21. > :19:27.voice live on as the Welsh religious revival sold hundreds of

:19:27. > :19:30.thousands joining. There are people to stay, this month, people from

:19:30. > :19:35.Indonesia have been here and from America to see where he lived and

:19:35. > :19:40.worked. We are losing a major part of an hour religious history.

:19:40. > :19:44.There's whether the chapel does become consigned to history remains

:19:44. > :19:47.a decision for Swansea Council and Loughor council.

:19:47. > :19:51.The winner of the Welsh Music Prize has been announced in the last hour.

:19:51. > :19:54.Set up by Radio 1 DJ Huw Stephens, it celebrates the best new music in

:19:54. > :20:02.Wales and our arts and media correspondent Huw Thomas is at the

:20:02. > :20:06.award ceremony for us tonight. This award has become one of the

:20:06. > :20:10.most prestigious and eyes of the Welsh music calendar. It is at the

:20:10. > :20:16.be in terms of the award see in that it only began last year. This

:20:16. > :20:24.second award showing it is finding its feet. Future of the Left won

:20:24. > :20:34.the award this year. The winner of the Welsh Music Prize, 2012 is The

:20:34. > :20:41.

:20:41. > :20:45.Plot Against Common Sense by Future of the Left.

:20:45. > :20:49.It was The Plot Against Common Sense which won the board. Let's

:20:49. > :20:59.take a look a some of their work now. This video does contain some

:20:59. > :21:16.

:21:16. > :21:20.With me now is a band member and a co-founder of are the prize. What

:21:20. > :21:26.does it mean to you to be able to receive this award? It means a lot.

:21:26. > :21:30.It is something we were not expecting. It means that his was

:21:30. > :21:37.just as the work of art that because more than a year to make.

:21:37. > :21:43.12 albums on the list, you are expecting him to win. It shows that

:21:43. > :21:49.the breadth of talent. It does foster a lot of the albums are

:21:49. > :21:53.different. It did very a lot. A lot of people are making music for no

:21:53. > :21:59.other reason that they like making music. You co-founded this award.

:21:59. > :22:09.What did you make of the entries? It was outstanding for a start this

:22:09. > :22:09.

:22:09. > :22:15.year we had a 70 records that the jurors ended up put forward. We

:22:15. > :22:18.really admires some of them. There are probably hundreds of records

:22:19. > :22:25.released, sent to get that far and then 12 in the short list and one

:22:26. > :22:30.winner. Well done to them for being the Wynne Evans de from now wonder

:22:30. > :22:40.party stars because from 7 o'clock tonight at the Swn Festival starts

:22:40. > :22:41.

:22:41. > :22:45.off. Many thanks. From music to comedy. The award

:22:45. > :22:48.winning TV series Gavin and Stacey is getting an American makeover.

:22:48. > :22:51.The programme where an Essex lad and Welsh girl who fall in love is

:22:51. > :22:54.to be re-made for a US audience. The original writers and stars,

:22:54. > :22:57.Ruth Jones and James Corden, won't be appearing in it, but have

:22:57. > :23:00.signed-up as executive producers. Cricket - Glamorgan have signed

:23:00. > :23:02.veteran batsman Murray Goodwin on an initial one year contract. The

:23:02. > :23:12.39-year-old former Zimbabwe international left Sussex at the

:23:12. > :23:13.

:23:13. > :23:17.end of last season after 12 years. He played 19 tests for his country.

:23:17. > :23:27.The cricket season is a distant memory but I hear it is about to

:23:27. > :23:27.

:23:27. > :23:31.The welcome news after windy days. We are expecting high tides again.

:23:31. > :23:40.This was Howard looked in Aberystwyth. Andrew Lewis took his

:23:40. > :23:44.picture of the ways crashing on the prom. Four fled her alerts along

:23:44. > :23:50.though West Coast to Anglesey. For details on the Environment Agency

:23:50. > :23:53.at website. It will be mainly dry inland would clear spells remaining

:23:53. > :23:58.business than fog especially in the Valleys. The wind easing and

:23:58. > :24:01.bringing in milder air from the south so not too cold overnight. If

:24:01. > :24:05.you mist and fog patches early tomorrow some murky start, quite

:24:05. > :24:12.slow to clear that once they do and improving picture, drier with

:24:12. > :24:17.bright spells on variable cloud. Highs of between 11-14 degrees

:24:17. > :24:21.Celsius. The chart shows a brief ridge of high pressure over the UK

:24:21. > :24:25.it is blocking these weather systems, allowing the weather to

:24:25. > :24:30.become more settled. A misty start on Saturday, turning into a fine

:24:30. > :24:34.day with sunny spells. It should start dry on Sunday as well with

:24:34. > :24:40.rain spreading of from the south- east late in the day. Looking

:24:40. > :24:45.warmer for the start of next week, not always sunny. Not really any

:24:45. > :24:50.Indian summer but just on the mild side. More subtle, less dramatic

:24:50. > :24:56.weather. We won't see scenes like these, clouds gathering over The

:24:56. > :25:06.Mumbles ready to bring in some showers. Send us your pictures US

:25:06. > :25:09.

:25:09. > :25:16.A highly critical report has found multiple failures by the Welsh

:25:16. > :25:20.Government to manage money given to AWEMA. It is the 19th time the

:25:20. > :25:24.Audit Office has criticised the Welsh Government in grants.

:25:24. > :25:28.have got the whole issue of the lack of communication and co-

:25:28. > :25:32.ordination that exists within the was government about the way it

:25:32. > :25:37.manages grounds. That is where it needs to improve. Without that you

:25:37. > :25:43.will continue to see individual departments and individual sections

:25:43. > :25:45.operating independently without providing that overview. A final

:25:45. > :25:50.word with our political correspondent. How damaging is this

:25:50. > :25:53.to the government? It is very bad. It isn't solely bad news, the real

:25:53. > :25:58.killer blow for the Welsh Government would have been if

:25:58. > :26:03.auditors had found that Labour ministers were protecting AWEMA, if

:26:03. > :26:13.you like, and spending because the boss was known to be a Labour

:26:13. > :26:18.

:26:18. > :26:21.activist. They don't find evidence of that. In the final... We seem to

:26:22. > :26:27.have lost our political correspondent. Have we got the

:26:27. > :26:31.sound that? We will return to our political editor. We stopped you

:26:32. > :26:36.mid-flow. Kenny just outlined two years, can we be sure things will

:26:36. > :26:40.finally improved? If we had an opportunity to talk to government

:26:40. > :26:49.ministers we could ask them that we have a bald statement saying they

:26:49. > :26:54.are learning lessons. You also her the assistant Auditor General

:26:54. > :26:58.making it clear, things may be changing beds are the improving? At

:26:58. > :27:05.the making a difference when it comes to your business -- Monique?

:27:05. > :27:08.That is the important thing. Many thanks indeed.

:27:08. > :27:13.Tomorrow on Wales Today, Scotland will get to vote on independence

:27:13. > :27:17.and we will be looking what it means to us.

:27:17. > :27:22.Maybe Scotland's has a referendum but whether Scots decide to have

:27:22. > :27:26.independence or more powers for the Scottish Parliament it will have an

:27:26. > :27:32.impact on Wales. I am in Edinburgh to take the temperature of the