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:00:00. > :00:00.Moyes has been sacked after a season of blue results. He spent just ten

:00:00. > :00:07.months Welcome to Wales Today. Our top

:00:08. > :00:12.story: The men who say they're paid less than women. Now they're suing

:00:13. > :00:16.the University they work for. Giggs has done it as a player but as

:00:17. > :00:23.a manager can he spark a revival at Manchester United? I have been in

:00:24. > :00:27.the dressing room with Ryan Giggs and if he speaks, you listen because

:00:28. > :00:30.you know she has done everything in football.

:00:31. > :00:36.On the buses. ?200,000 of taxpayers money to support rural services. Is

:00:37. > :00:39.it money well spent? The council bosses on trial accused

:00:40. > :00:44.of stopping proper scrutiny of their pay rises.

:00:45. > :00:49.St Julian's chapel in Tenby was built in the 1870s for the fishermen

:00:50. > :01:06.of the town. But plans to change it are not proving popular.

:01:07. > :01:13.Good evening. Who gets paid what? Are men's wages less than women's at

:01:14. > :01:16.the university they work for? 18 men are claiming sex discrimination at

:01:17. > :01:18.the former Swansea Metropolitan University, now part of the

:01:19. > :01:23.University of Wales, Trinity St David. The men, who work as

:01:24. > :01:27.carpenters and caretakers, have taken their case to an industrial

:01:28. > :01:33.tribunal, trying to recoup more than ?700,000 in lost wages. Nick Palit

:01:34. > :01:36.reports. It's usually a battle fought by

:01:37. > :01:40.working women fighting for equal pay with men but at this industrial

:01:41. > :01:46.tribunal in Cardiff these three men claim they were paid less than

:01:47. > :01:49.female colleagues on the same grade. Nick Thomas, Mike Betson and Rob

:01:50. > :01:58.Cooze represent 18 tradesmen at Swansea's University of Wales,

:01:59. > :02:03.Trinity St David. We feel we have been treated equally and we do have

:02:04. > :02:09.a sex discrimination claim. How did you find out you appear paying

:02:10. > :02:14.less? We had a meeting with the Vice Chancellor and the human resources

:02:15. > :02:21.department and received a letter stating the calculation of other sad

:02:22. > :02:24.-- salary. The ancillary staff worked as caretakers, maintenance

:02:25. > :02:27.men and carpenters at various buildings in what was formerly

:02:28. > :02:35.Swansea Metropolitan University. They were employed on a Grade 3

:02:36. > :02:38.salary. But they claim they were paid less than female Grade 3 staff

:02:39. > :02:46.who worked as secretaries and librarians. Over the past seven

:02:47. > :02:52.years they say the in equal pay gap has left them nearly ?30,000 out of

:02:53. > :02:55.pocket. One carpenter said the overall consensus is it was because

:02:56. > :03:00.they were men. The University dispute this. They say this

:03:01. > :03:05.particular group of male workers had eight hours of guaranteed overtime

:03:06. > :03:09.each week which the other women didn't have. April 2007 saw the

:03:10. > :03:12.introduction of a statutory Gender Equality Duty for public bodies. Its

:03:13. > :03:15.purpose to ensure the elimination of sex discrimination in pay and

:03:16. > :03:17.conditions. Female workers have been the main beneficiaries of the

:03:18. > :03:20.legislation and seven years ago cleaners, caterers and carers in

:03:21. > :03:24.Neath Port Talbot were among the first to receive large pay-outs,

:03:25. > :03:32.some up to ?7,500 pounds, to make up for years of unequal pay. The

:03:33. > :03:35.pay-outs in Birmingham could reach as much as a billion pounds and the

:03:36. > :03:40.authority there is considering the sale of the NEC to settle the equal

:03:41. > :03:43.pay claims. Back in the Cardiff tribunal and this time it's the men

:03:44. > :03:46.who claim they've been discriminated against. The university deny this

:03:47. > :03:55.but if these men are successful the pay-out could be in excess of

:03:56. > :04:00.?700,000. When we think a result of this

:04:01. > :04:03.tribunal is much this case is expected to last three days on both

:04:04. > :04:06.sides are adamant they are right. The barrister representing the

:04:07. > :04:12.University has pointed out this group of men were in the position of

:04:13. > :04:16.having eight hours guaranteed overnight -- overtime each week paid

:04:17. > :04:24.at a time and a half. That is something of a great three female

:04:25. > :04:34.staff did not get. But representing the workers, they were compelled to

:04:35. > :04:37.work more hours. If these 18 men are successful in their claim, another

:04:38. > :04:42.seven men are likely to bring a similar action.

:04:43. > :04:47.Is Ryan Giggs the man to lead Manchester United back to the top of

:04:48. > :04:50.the football world? That's the question millions of fans and plenty

:04:51. > :04:53.of pundits are asking after the former Wales captain was appointed

:04:54. > :05:02.interim manager at Old Trafford following today's sacking of David

:05:03. > :05:06.Moyes. Here's Sachin Krishnan. In a career spanning more than two

:05:07. > :05:09.decades, Ryan Giggs has seen and then almost everything. But has he

:05:10. > :05:15.just been handed his big challenged yet -- biggest challenge yetess-mac

:05:16. > :05:22.he has been tasked with taking over this big club. Initially the job is

:05:23. > :05:26.on a temporary basis but BBC sport understands Ryan Giggs isn't being

:05:27. > :05:29.considered for the role full-time. It is believed the Old Trafford

:05:30. > :05:36.hierarchy want a more experienced candidate. Somebody like Ryan Giggs

:05:37. > :05:39.is the perfect man to take over. Bring in somebody from abroad is you

:05:40. > :05:47.will have problems with the don't know the English game. Ryan Giggs is

:05:48. > :05:49.one of the best at making chances in the Premier league. He knows what it

:05:50. > :05:56.takes to make chances and create goals. You know is how they have

:05:57. > :05:59.played in the last 25 years. Ryan Giggs is Manchester United through

:06:00. > :06:04.and through. He has been a wonderfully gifted player. Going

:06:05. > :06:09.from bad to managing Manchester United in the long-term would be

:06:10. > :06:15.extraordinary. There was no word from him at the training ground

:06:16. > :06:19.today as the most senior player in the club commanding respect from his

:06:20. > :06:23.new charges should not be a problem. I think Ryan Giggs will be onto a

:06:24. > :06:26.winner straightaway. He will get more respect initially from the

:06:27. > :06:35.group of players because he has been, done it. He has won trophies.

:06:36. > :06:41.If he speaks, you listen because you know that he has done everything in

:06:42. > :06:47.football. The last Welshman to take charge of Manchester United was a

:06:48. > :06:51.giant of the club history. Jimmy Murphy was interim manager in the

:06:52. > :06:56.aftermath of the 1958 Munich air disaster which claimed the lives of

:06:57. > :07:00.eight players. Despite the poor and the position the club finds itself

:07:01. > :07:04.in, Ryan Giggs will be given a rapturous reception for his first

:07:05. > :07:07.game in charge which is on Saturday against Norwich.

:07:08. > :07:10.A 10-year-old boy's access to internet pornography was likely to

:07:11. > :07:14.be behind the alleged rape of his classmate in the school toilets,

:07:15. > :07:19.Mold Crown Court has heard. Prosecutors say porn was watched by

:07:20. > :07:22.both children. Oh The child, who is now 12, denies rape and inciting

:07:23. > :07:28.another boy to engage in sexual activity at the school in the Colwyn

:07:29. > :07:31.Bay area. The case continues. Campaigners have protested against

:07:32. > :07:35.proposals for an open cast mine in the Rhymney Valley. They say they're

:07:36. > :07:39.concerned about the future of the community if plans for Nant Llesg

:07:40. > :07:42.near Rhymney go ahead. The developers say changes have been

:07:43. > :07:49.made to address concerns and the scheme will create hundreds of jobs

:07:50. > :07:52.as well as a community benefit fund. A woman from Haverfordwest has been

:07:53. > :07:55.given a suspended jail sentence for cruelty to horses. Police were

:07:56. > :08:00.called after concern from the RSPCA. You may find their footage

:08:01. > :08:02.distressing. This stallion was removed from Lyndsey Morgan's

:08:03. > :08:08.property after being examined by vets but was put down after he

:08:09. > :08:15.didn't respond to treatment. Another mare is now being re-homed.

:08:16. > :08:18.How do we improve bus services in rural Wales? That's the question the

:08:19. > :08:23.Welsh Government is trying to answer. They're giving ?100,000 each

:08:24. > :08:27.to two local authorities. It comes as some private companies around

:08:28. > :08:32.Wales have cut services. But will ?200,000 really make a difference to

:08:33. > :08:39.passengers? Charlotte Dubensikij has been finding out.

:08:40. > :08:50.The bulk of bus service has been a lifeline for this woman. She lives

:08:51. > :08:56.around seven miles north of Lampeter. Shoes is this bus service

:08:57. > :08:59.to get to work. I was only part-time employee so with this service I have

:09:00. > :09:04.been able to go into full-time employment. It has allowed me more

:09:05. > :09:11.flexibility to be able to get to my job at different times of the day.

:09:12. > :09:17.It has been vital. This service is tailored to the needs of its

:09:18. > :09:21.passengers. Since this was launched in 2009, there have been more than

:09:22. > :09:28.87,000 passenger journeys in Ceredigion and Carmarthenshire. Over

:09:29. > :09:33.the next week, Kerry began and available organ councils will each

:09:34. > :09:48.receive ?100,000 to trial at the ideas. -- Ceredigion and the Vale of

:09:49. > :09:52.Glamorgan councils. There is a range of buses provided by six or seven

:09:53. > :09:56.different organisations and in the main, very little of that is

:09:57. > :10:00.coordinated. On top of that, there is a massive schools movement every

:10:01. > :10:08.morning and afternoon moving schoolchildren. All that needs to be

:10:09. > :10:12.brought together. The extra money comes as some of Wales 's largest

:10:13. > :10:17.bus operators cut services. They have blamed the reduction in cities

:10:18. > :10:20.they receive. Within the last month the coach confirmed it is cutting

:10:21. > :10:27.services in five counties in South Wales. While nearly 100 subsidised

:10:28. > :10:31.bus routes have been scrapped by Welsh councils over the past three

:10:32. > :10:35.years. We will be working with the health board and voluntary

:10:36. > :10:39.organisations and bus user groups design services that directly link

:10:40. > :10:45.in to local hospitals, local clinics and to appointment times. We think

:10:46. > :10:50.it is important. Secondly, we're going to be using the money to fund

:10:51. > :10:56.cheaper travel for young people between the ages of 16-21. The

:10:57. > :11:00.transport minister says the scheme is about ensuring everybody in Wales

:11:01. > :11:04.is able to access jobs and services via reliable public transport. While

:11:05. > :11:10.the additional money has been welcomed by the Welsh Conservatives,

:11:11. > :11:14.the leader described it as being little more than a sticking plaster.

:11:15. > :11:19.Both councils have one near to road test their ideas. The best ones can

:11:20. > :11:22.be transported elsewhere in Wales. Much more to come before seven

:11:23. > :11:26.o'clock. Training tomorrow's ultrasound scanner staff. How

:11:27. > :11:31.scientists here are leading the world.

:11:32. > :11:40.And some of the world's top musicians head to Caernarfon for the

:11:41. > :11:42.international harp festival. Three senior executives at

:11:43. > :11:47.Caerphilly Council have appeared in court accused of misconduct in

:11:48. > :11:49.public office. Chief executive Anthony O'Sullivan and two

:11:50. > :11:55.colleagues are accused of preventing scrutiny of pay rises given to

:11:56. > :12:00.senior staff in 2012. Paul Heaney reports from Bristol Magistrates

:12:01. > :12:04.court. They were awarded pay rises worth

:12:05. > :12:07.thousands of pounds but now find themselves in court accused of

:12:08. > :12:09.failing to do their job. On the left, Caerphilly Council's chief

:12:10. > :12:12.executive, Anthony O'Sullivan, on the right his deputy, Nigel Barnett,

:12:13. > :12:18.both charged with misconduct in public office suspended on full pay.

:12:19. > :12:22.Head of legal services, Daniel Perkins, seen here with the glasses,

:12:23. > :12:25.is accused of the same offence charged with preventing scrutiny of

:12:26. > :12:31.the pay rises awarded to executives here at Caerphilly Council. The

:12:32. > :12:35.deals worth up to ?27,000 a year were agreed by councillors back in

:12:36. > :12:42.2012 but when it became public knowledge staff, who were on a pay

:12:43. > :12:44.freeze at the time, protested. Councillors eventually reversed the

:12:45. > :12:50.original decision giving smaller pay rises instead. Gwent Police worked

:12:51. > :12:53.closely with Caerphilly Council so the criminal investigation has been

:12:54. > :12:58.handled by the Avon and Somerset Police which led to today's

:12:59. > :13:02.appearance in court. More than 18 months after big pay rises were

:13:03. > :13:05.agreed for the top executives at Caerphilly Council, three men now

:13:06. > :13:10.face charges of misconduct in public office. After a brief hearing here

:13:11. > :13:14.this morning, they are due in Crown Court next month. Paul Heaney, BBC

:13:15. > :13:24.Wales Today, Bristol Magistrates Court.

:13:25. > :13:27.It's one of the most commonly used tests carried out in our hospitals,

:13:28. > :13:31.helping doctors create a picture of what goes on inside our bodies. Now,

:13:32. > :13:34.a new ultrasound training simulator has been designed by scientists at

:13:35. > :13:36.Cardiff University. They say it could "dramatically increase" the

:13:37. > :13:44.availability of ultrasound screening worldwide. It is one of the most

:13:45. > :13:49.commonly used tests in the health service. Helping doctors create a

:13:50. > :13:52.picture of what is going on inside our bodies. But across the UK

:13:53. > :13:59.training enough staff to use and analyse ultrasound scans is a huge

:14:00. > :14:03.challenge. Now, a team of scientists at Cardiff University say this could

:14:04. > :14:06.be the answer. They have spent a decade developing a virtual reality

:14:07. > :14:14.training stimulator, the first of its kind using 3-D animation and

:14:15. > :14:21.so-called real feel technology. Back in 2004 we realised there was a big

:14:22. > :14:23.area to the training of stenographers -- sonographers

:14:24. > :14:28.because there weren't enough trainers, there wasn't enough time

:14:29. > :14:33.and opportunities for trainees to engage with real patients. The idea

:14:34. > :14:39.was at the time to bring novel learning principles into the

:14:40. > :14:43.equation. It is incredibly lifelike. It is really good in that

:14:44. > :14:49.you don't have to have supervised sessions with somebody there. Any

:14:50. > :14:52.innovation is welcome news according to the Society and College of

:14:53. > :14:56.Radiographers. In a report it warned the UK wide shortage of staff

:14:57. > :15:02.trained to use ultrasound was causing severe difficulties for many

:15:03. > :15:05.trusts and health boards. Everything in that document is relevant today.

:15:06. > :15:13.The managers have got a difficult jobs. They realise the pressure the

:15:14. > :15:17.ultrasound service is under but it comes back to this issue of

:15:18. > :15:21.funding. With the patients waiting longer than they should for some

:15:22. > :15:24.diagnostic test site ultrasound is having travelled in Wales over the

:15:25. > :15:27.last two years, the Welsh Government announced in March it would use ?5

:15:28. > :15:32.million of new funding to tackle the issue. It has helped support the

:15:33. > :15:37.development of this training simulator. It is a device that is

:15:38. > :15:43.going to change the availability of ultrasound worldwide. More so, in

:15:44. > :15:47.the developing world because it is practically nonexistent. Over 100

:15:48. > :15:53.similar users have been sold hospitals in 11 countries as this

:15:54. > :15:56.Welsh invention goes global. A holiday camp in Prestatyn that's

:15:57. > :15:59.been running for 88 years has been forced to close. The Salford

:16:00. > :16:02.Children's Holiday Camp nicknamed the Jam Butty Camp, has lost its

:16:03. > :16:05.funding from Salford City Council, after a lack of bookings. Since

:16:06. > :16:11.1926, it's offered seaside holidays to disadvantaged children.

:16:12. > :16:15.Aberystwyth Football Club play their last home game in their existing

:16:16. > :16:20.stadium tonight. Next season, they'll play in Newtown while their

:16:21. > :16:24.stadium is being redeveloped. The plans are for a new 500 seater stand

:16:25. > :16:37.and flats will be built alongside the stadium if planning permission

:16:38. > :16:39.is granted. After delay in play, Glamorgan were bowled out in their

:16:40. > :16:49.first innings against Gloucestershire. It is day three in

:16:50. > :16:54.80 musicians from around the world are in Caernarfon this week for the

:16:55. > :16:57.Wales International Harp Festival. The event also includes concerts and

:16:58. > :17:07.competitions for youngsters. Matthew Richards is there for us, Matthew.

:17:08. > :17:10.Thank you. A special treat for you tonight. This broadcast has live

:17:11. > :17:17.accompaniment from three students competing here from America. Let's

:17:18. > :17:22.find out more about what is happening with the defective. What

:17:23. > :17:28.is the festival about? It celebrates the heart, that is basically it.

:17:29. > :17:38.We're on the theme of remembering a great composer from Wales. We have

:17:39. > :17:44.concerts, classes, workshops. It is very much getting the hearts

:17:45. > :17:49.together from different countries, people have a common interest with

:17:50. > :17:56.the heart. We have about 85 competitors here who share this love

:17:57. > :18:03.and we have very distinguished jury members. You are trending to heart

:18:04. > :18:06.as well. We are doing every level if we can, from the beginners to the

:18:07. > :18:14.very accomplished young people who live here performing. There are

:18:15. > :18:20.three night in the concept, three new compositions for the heart which

:18:21. > :18:25.I am absolutely delighted about. You are here from America and judging

:18:26. > :18:30.this week. Tell us why the heart has an appeal for you. I started playing

:18:31. > :18:36.the harp when I was six and I was inspired by great players. I became

:18:37. > :18:40.a heart professor and I was privileged to know people here who

:18:41. > :18:46.have been influential in the heart world. Wales is one of those places

:18:47. > :18:52.who attracted. We want to know more about the Welsh Harp tradition. For

:18:53. > :18:58.people that might be looking at this and wondering if they can start. Is

:18:59. > :19:01.it expensive? Anybody can start on a small instrument. We can teach them

:19:02. > :19:06.perfect technique from the beginning. We have great teachers

:19:07. > :19:14.here. It is a wonderful instrument. Children can take the heart to

:19:15. > :19:20.church -- school. I think we are sold. It would be a shame not to

:19:21. > :19:21.hear some of this music. Let's leave you with some of this fantastic

:19:22. > :19:50.music. There's a row over plans to overhaul

:19:51. > :19:54.one of Wales' most iconic chapels after campaigners have branded the

:19:55. > :19:57.project soulless. St Julian's chapel in Tenby harbour was built in the

:19:58. > :20:02.1870s to serve the fishing community but the congregation has dwindled.

:20:03. > :20:05.The Church in Wales wants to modernise it to attract younger

:20:06. > :20:12.worshippers but, as Abigail Neal reports, it's caused quite a storm.

:20:13. > :20:16.It's not often you find a church decked with lobster pots and plastic

:20:17. > :20:22.crabs but these are symbols of a history dating back hundreds of

:20:23. > :20:26.years. Back in the 19th Century, fishing was the main busy here in

:20:27. > :20:31.Tenby and as a result of that we have these buildings behind me. To

:20:32. > :20:42.the right is St Julian's chapel, to the left private rooms. They could

:20:43. > :20:45.have a hot meal and a rest. But things are changing. The church has

:20:46. > :20:48.decided to modernise. The fishing industry has made way for tourism

:20:49. > :20:53.and with it the congregation numbers at St Julian's have fallen away. So

:20:54. > :20:58.the Church in Wales have come up with a plan. They want to attract a

:20:59. > :21:01.younger crowd. Adding a new block with a kitchen and toilets and

:21:02. > :21:10.modernising the interior, stripping away the fishing memorabilia. We

:21:11. > :21:25.have a very strong thriving ministry to young people intently. -- Tenby.

:21:26. > :21:28.This will not replace it. The youth group have been very successful. But

:21:29. > :21:32.the idea of plain, whitewashed walls has been met with a backlash. 500

:21:33. > :21:39.people have signed a petition opposing the plans. It is very their

:21:40. > :21:42.and somebody said to me it looks like a church hall. Somebody else

:21:43. > :21:49.said it looked like a visitor centre. It hasn't got... If it is

:21:50. > :21:55.going into a new, modern building it would be fine. But to put it into a

:21:56. > :21:59.Victorian building, it doesn't seem to fit. Increasing the use of our

:22:00. > :22:03.churches in Wales is something both sides want but then it comes to how

:22:04. > :22:07.to do it, the devil is in the detail.

:22:08. > :22:08.Let's see what the weather has in store. Behnaz has tonight's

:22:09. > :22:15.forecast. We did have a lot more clout around

:22:16. > :22:23.today compared with yesterday where temperatures reached a high of 20

:22:24. > :22:26.Celsius. Today we managed a 14 Celsius in ask. Tonight, it will

:22:27. > :22:30.remain cloudy and a few showers dotted around. Here is the satellite

:22:31. > :22:36.picture. There are a few breaks ground. All in all, it is a cloudy

:22:37. > :22:41.picture and will continue that way through tomorrow as well. Tonight,

:22:42. > :22:45.we have a few showers and they will push through quickly. Behind it, we

:22:46. > :22:51.have a brief break that it will remain cloudy and fairly mild.

:22:52. > :22:55.Overnight temperatures seven Celsius in Welshpool, 10 Celsius in Swansea.

:22:56. > :22:59.The breeze picks up overnight and we will see the arrival of the next

:23:00. > :23:03.weather system and with that comes rain by dawn. It is the weather

:23:04. > :23:08.system making its way in from the south-west. From the word go it

:23:09. > :23:17.isn't wet everywhere, a dry start across the south east. It is a dry

:23:18. > :23:21.but mild start of the morning. It is cloudy as well. A fuchsia was for

:23:22. > :23:30.part of Gwyneth and Anglesey. They will head down to Cardigan Bay. It

:23:31. > :23:36.is quite breezy from the word go but it is mild temperatures 10-11

:23:37. > :23:40.degrees. Then it is that weather system which will make its way north

:23:41. > :23:44.and east with. For Pembrokeshire, a better end to the day although you

:23:45. > :23:48.start on a wet note. By the afternoon is not bright enough. It

:23:49. > :23:54.should be drier, temperatures still above the average for this time of

:23:55. > :23:59.year ranging between 12-15. It will be breezy as that weather system

:24:00. > :24:03.moves north and east was. Tomorrow night, that string band will clear

:24:04. > :24:08.and behind it it is a cloudy picture. We will seize on breaks and

:24:09. > :24:12.perhaps we could see some missed all four patches forming. Essentially,

:24:13. > :24:18.it is dry. It will be colder than tonight. The wind certainly liked as

:24:19. > :24:22.we go into Thursday. On Thursday, a much better day. Average high

:24:23. > :24:27.pressure building and we can look forward to some sunshine, the odd

:24:28. > :24:33.isolated shower. When the sun gets added to feel pleasant with highs of

:24:34. > :24:37.13-14 degrees. It is all eyes on this area of low pressure which will

:24:38. > :24:40.make its way from the south-west ringing in wet and windy conditions

:24:41. > :24:47.through Saturday. We're keeping an eye on that. Thursday and Friday we

:24:48. > :24:51.can look forward to is in dry weather. Saturday and Sunday

:24:52. > :24:54.becoming unsettled as low pressure takes charge. Today's fixture is of

:24:55. > :25:10.Pembroke Castle. -- today's fixture. The headlines: 18 men are claiming

:25:11. > :25:15.sex discrimination against the former Swansea University. The men

:25:16. > :25:18.have taken their case to an industrial tribunal trying to

:25:19. > :25:21.re-coop of more than ?700,000 in lost wages.

:25:22. > :25:24.After just ten months in the job, David Moyes has been sacked as

:25:25. > :25:28.manager of Manchester United. Former Wales captain Ryan Giggs has been

:25:29. > :25:31.put in temporary charge of the team but the BBC understands he is not

:25:32. > :25:45.being considered for the job full-time. As UKIP launches in

:25:46. > :25:49.nationwide poster campaign, is the leader Nigel Farage has decided his

:25:50. > :25:53.decision to employ his wife, who is German as a secretary. He denies she

:25:54. > :25:59.is taken the job that could be performed by a British person

:26:00. > :26:03.insisting no one else do it. Two local authorities are then given

:26:04. > :26:07.?100,000 by the Welsh Government to try to improve brutal bus services.

:26:08. > :26:13.It comes as some flavoured companies have cut services. If you have a

:26:14. > :26:15.story we should know about, we would love to hear from you. You can

:26:16. > :26:19.e-mail us. I'll have an update for you here at

:26:20. > :26:24.eight o'clock and again after the BBC News at Ten. That's Wales Today,

:26:25. > :26:27.thank you for watching. From all of us on the programme, good evening.