:00:00. > :00:00.and on BBC One, we now join the BBC's news teams where you are.
:00:00. > :00:00.Tonight's headlines: The state of the NHS takes centre stage
:00:07. > :00:10.in Cardiff and Westminster as the First Minister
:00:11. > :00:22.and the Prime Minister attack each other's record on health.
:00:23. > :00:31.England ministers have embarked on a reform so dizzying in its complexity
:00:32. > :00:35.so baffling its structure that patients there could be forgiven
:00:36. > :00:39.wondering who is in charge. Diagnosis of pneumonia takes two
:00:40. > :00:41.weeks longer, treatments of heart operations and cataracts take two
:00:42. > :00:52.months longer than in England. Labour are running Wales.
:00:53. > :00:54.Also tonight: The discovery of a man's body at an Anglesey
:00:55. > :00:58.beauty spot is thought to be linked to the murders of a woman
:00:59. > :01:03.Calls from the First Ministers of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland
:01:04. > :01:07.to hold the EU referendum later than June are rejected by the Prime
:01:08. > :01:12.And we're in Aberystwyth where a team of academics
:01:13. > :01:20.are benefitting from a fund that's supporting new antibiotic research.
:01:21. > :01:27.A few surprises in the Wales team to face Ireland on Sunday. Six years
:01:28. > :01:34.after his last cap Tom James is back in Wales shirt. I think he has grown
:01:35. > :01:38.up and mature wood as a person and a player.
:01:39. > :01:43.The state of the NHS in Wales took centre stage today in
:01:44. > :01:46.The Prime Minister attacked the Welsh Government's record
:01:47. > :01:49.on running the NHS here, criticising the long waits patients
:01:50. > :01:53.It follows an exclusive report by BBC Wales which showed average
:01:54. > :01:55.waiting times here are longer for most key treatments
:01:56. > :01:59.In a speech in Cardiff today, the First Minister launched a major
:02:00. > :02:01.attack on what he called the confrontational philosophy
:02:02. > :02:13.Here's our political editor, Nick Servini.
:02:14. > :02:21.Two leaders and two very different takes on the state of the Welsh NHS.
:02:22. > :02:24.As the first Bannister did a major speech defending his record over the
:02:25. > :02:30.past five years, and setting out his vision for the next, David Cameron
:02:31. > :02:34.used Prime Minister's Questions in the Commons to respond to our story
:02:35. > :02:40.last week which revealed how many waiting times in the NHS in Wales
:02:41. > :02:46.were falling behind in London. He cannot washes hands of the situation
:02:47. > :02:54.in Wales. Hip operations in England take 75 days waiting times on
:02:55. > :02:58.average, in Wales its 197 days. Diagnosis of pneumonia takes two
:02:59. > :03:02.weeks longer, treat the Dove cataracts, Ernie Els and heart
:03:03. > :03:07.operations take two months longer than in England. Labour are running
:03:08. > :03:14.Wales. He is responsible for Labour. Pick up the phone, tell them to stop
:03:15. > :03:17.cutting or NHS. But is the Welsh NHS living in the shadow of its much
:03:18. > :03:22.larger neighbour? Not so according to Carwyn Jones who told senior
:03:23. > :03:25.health figures in Cardiff that the accountability of the Welsh NHS
:03:26. > :03:31.contrasted with the baffling complexity in England and pointed to
:03:32. > :03:36.research showing nine out of ten patients rated the care they had
:03:37. > :03:41.received. A crisis is an easy headline to write about the system
:03:42. > :03:46.but when people face a crisis of their own as the statistics show the
:03:47. > :03:54.system is there for them. But we cannot be complacent. That is the
:03:55. > :03:58.challenge we must set ourselves in the future. This was very much a
:03:59. > :04:02.speech from the First Minister designed to reassure the greater and
:04:03. > :04:07.the good of the NHS in this room. Unlike in England they said they
:04:08. > :04:12.would be no major reorganisation and no strikes by doctors. There is
:04:13. > :04:14.undoubtedly a much closer and friendlier relationship between
:04:15. > :04:22.government and the health service in Wales than in England. But is it too
:04:23. > :04:27.cosy here? I would not agree the relationship is cosy within Wales.
:04:28. > :04:29.There is a strong degree of performance management in the
:04:30. > :04:35.system. What that is is a clear shared value set and a clear vision
:04:36. > :04:39.about what we want to do together. There is a real difficulty in Wales
:04:40. > :04:42.because it is a small country and there is nothing between the
:04:43. > :04:46.minister and the health service. There are no intermediate level saw
:04:47. > :04:49.the Minister must hold back a bit and not get involved in
:04:50. > :04:55.micromanagement. The health service has benefited from the fact the
:04:56. > :04:58.Minister has held back. But we have an election approaching. All normal
:04:59. > :05:02.rules are put into abeyance for the next four months. That pre-election
:05:03. > :05:06.scrutiny will ramp up even further next week when a major report is
:05:07. > :05:09.publishing to the relative strengths and weaknesses of the different
:05:10. > :05:12.health systems across the UK. Do the people running the Welsh NHS
:05:13. > :05:22.accept there are problems? This was the annual get-together of
:05:23. > :05:25.experts and charities and nobody in the room denied the NHS is facing
:05:26. > :05:29.huge challenges such as caring for a population living longer with a
:05:30. > :05:34.variety of illnesses but a common complaint was that the system was
:05:35. > :05:39.not changing quicker to respond. But sometimes we look at the Welsh NHS
:05:40. > :05:42.in isolation. We know of GP shortages in related and we had
:05:43. > :05:48.today of similar problems in Scotland and we heard of that
:05:49. > :05:53.problems joining up health and social care was a global problem not
:05:54. > :05:57.just in Wales. And we heard of a ?2 billion black hole facing the NHS in
:05:58. > :06:00.England this year and the Welsh Government seeing the NHS in Wales
:06:01. > :06:04.overall will balance its books. In the run-up to the election Labour
:06:05. > :06:08.will try and spend its record. Carwyn Jones tried to do that today
:06:09. > :06:11.but it critics will claim to fund the government made the wrong
:06:12. > :06:17.decision. For example squeezing health budgets at the very start of
:06:18. > :06:21.this assembly term, the very time those waiting times described the Mr
:06:22. > :06:24.Cameron were lengthening. The problem is it's impossible to say
:06:25. > :06:28.had anybody else been a charge would they have fared any better. What
:06:29. > :06:32.voters will be doing between now and the election is looking at those
:06:33. > :06:36.health policies from all the parties and perhaps themselves are the
:06:37. > :06:48.deliverable and will they make a difference to solving those
:06:49. > :06:54.pressures which won't go away? BBC Wales is looking at what makes us
:06:55. > :06:57.different is to the rest of the UK. It's part of a series called how
:06:58. > :07:00.Wales works and you can follow it across ABC radio and TV.
:07:01. > :07:02.A factory employing around 150 people in Caerphilly County
:07:03. > :07:07.The United States-based company which owns Penny and Giles
:07:08. > :07:09.in Cwmfelinfach says the closure is due to current
:07:10. > :07:14.The firm makes equipment including joysticks and motion sensors
:07:15. > :07:19.for commercial vehicles and industrial use.
:07:20. > :07:22.The discovery of a man's body at an Anglesey beauty spot
:07:23. > :07:25.is thought to be linked to the murders of a woman
:07:26. > :07:28.The body was recovered from South Stack near Holyhead,
:07:29. > :07:31.hours after Geraldine Newman, her son and daughter
:07:32. > :07:35.It's thought the man is her estranged partner.
:07:36. > :07:37.Matthew Richards is in Holyhead for us.
:07:38. > :07:44.Matthew, what do we know about the people who died?
:07:45. > :07:50.West Yorkshire Police were called to a house in Leeds yesterday around
:07:51. > :07:55.midday after the discovery of these three bodies and the woman has been
:07:56. > :07:59.identified as Geraldine Newman and the Chew children are reported to be
:08:00. > :08:03.her 11-year-old daughter and six-year-old son. Then the focus
:08:04. > :08:07.turns to Anglesey following the discovery yesterday evening of a
:08:08. > :08:18.man's body on a cliff edge at South Stack. That is also understood to be
:08:19. > :08:26.Mrs Newman's estranged partner who lived not far from the scene of the
:08:27. > :08:33.murder. What connections did they have with Anglesey? Very little
:08:34. > :08:37.information has come out today and over the coming days we might find a
:08:38. > :08:40.more details but what we understand is that Geraldine Newman does have
:08:41. > :08:45.relatives who live in Holyhead and who have lived here for some time.
:08:46. > :08:49.Procedures would normally mean that members of the police would act as
:08:50. > :08:55.family liaison officers to give them support during the early stages of
:08:56. > :08:58.the investigation. The postmortem examinations are due to be carried
:08:59. > :09:03.out on some of those who died tomorrow so it's a very tragic story
:09:04. > :09:05.and more details will unfold as the week goes on.
:09:06. > :09:08.A man's appeared before magistrates in Swansea charged with the murder
:09:09. > :09:12.43-year-old Rhys Trevor Anthony Hobbs was charged after the body
:09:13. > :09:15.of Andrea Lewis was found by police at a house in Tonna on Saturday.
:09:16. > :09:18.Another man, who was also arrested in connection with her death,
:09:19. > :09:24.has been released on bail while the investigation continues.
:09:25. > :09:27.Calls to postpone the EU referendum until later in the year to avoid
:09:28. > :09:30.a clash with the National Assembly election have been rejected
:09:31. > :09:35.The First Minister, Carwyn Jones, has written to David Cameron warning
:09:36. > :09:38.that a June referendum would "distract" from the elections.
:09:39. > :09:42.But the Prime Minister has told MPs there would be at least six weeks
:09:43. > :09:56.Our parliamentary correspondent, David Cornock reports.
:09:57. > :10:02.Bucks fizz, winners of Eurovision the big annual vote in Europe and
:10:03. > :10:06.after David Cameron's proposed deal on Britain's mentorship of the EU
:10:07. > :10:10.has now make your mind up time for politicians and the rest of us.
:10:11. > :10:15.Conservative MPs are starting to take sides. I am going to be saying
:10:16. > :10:19.to everybody I am out and proud and I will vote to come out of the
:10:20. > :10:22.European Union. I think it is absolutely outrageous that after
:10:23. > :10:26.asking for a fair deal the Prime Minister has been told no and has
:10:27. > :10:29.been told is going to be ignored on issues like benefits so we need to
:10:30. > :10:33.send a message to the EU. We are not willing to take that and if they are
:10:34. > :10:41.not willing to play the game we will come out. I signed a letter today so
:10:42. > :10:46.this is a group of Conservative MPs that supports staying in the EU but
:10:47. > :10:51.a reform European Union. But when will the referendum be? Most MPs
:10:52. > :10:55.think the premise to want to hold in June but Carwyn Jones and the first
:10:56. > :10:58.ministers of Scotland and Northern Ireland say that could distract from
:10:59. > :11:03.the devolved elections. They have written to David Cameron to asking
:11:04. > :11:07.for a delay. The letter warns that the June poll could risk confusing
:11:08. > :11:11.issues on clarity is required. They got a swift response in person and a
:11:12. > :11:19.guarantee of a short gap between poles. People are perfectly capable,
:11:20. > :11:22.six weeks or more after 17 letters to consider another election and I
:11:23. > :11:26.know the Leader of the Opposition whose party is in control of Wales
:11:27. > :11:31.was actually pressing me to hold the referendum on the 23rd of June.
:11:32. > :11:36.Labour in Westminster support a June vote despite the Prime minister's
:11:37. > :11:40.fees but a six-week gap did not satisfy Plaid Cymru. In the Welsh
:11:41. > :11:44.general election how will his Conservative colleagues argue for
:11:45. > :11:47.the economic stability that Wales needs when that might be overthrown
:11:48. > :11:54.by his referendum just six weeks later. The earliest the referendum
:11:55. > :11:57.could be held with the June the 16th but with Wales playing England at
:11:58. > :12:03.football in France that day it looks rather unlikely. So put June the
:12:04. > :12:06.23rd in your diary. But that still depends on David Cameron clinching
:12:07. > :12:11.the deal in Brussels later this month.
:12:12. > :12:13.Much more to come before 7:00pm: Newport's new shopping centre
:12:14. > :12:16.attracted record numbers over Christmas, so is the future of Welsh
:12:17. > :12:23.And Gareth Anscombe is picked for Wales at full-back,
:12:24. > :12:25.while his team mate at the Blues Tom James
:12:26. > :12:35.We'll assess the team taking on Ireland on Sunday.
:12:36. > :12:37.Resistance to antibiotics is one of the top health concerns
:12:38. > :12:42.Research here that could lead to new drugs to tackle the problem
:12:43. > :12:45.is being given a lifeline with investment from a Welsh
:12:46. > :12:54.Here's our business correspondent, Brian Meechan.
:12:55. > :13:00.This team is at the early stages of work that could lead to new
:13:01. > :13:05.antibiotics reaching the market one day. Ground-breaking research is
:13:06. > :13:09.being carried out at universities across Wales like here in
:13:10. > :13:12.Aberystwyth that some of the ideas have failed to go any further
:13:13. > :13:19.because the initial work is finished before a company is ready to take it
:13:20. > :13:22.on. It is the so-called Valley of death and that is what the bridging
:13:23. > :13:26.fenders Theatre get the best research across. It's an expensive
:13:27. > :13:32.business with few guarantees. A new drug takes up to 14 years to go from
:13:33. > :13:38.initial idea to reaching the market. It costs over ?1 billion because of
:13:39. > :13:41.the high failure rate of research. After the academic stage that are
:13:42. > :13:47.still only a one in 10,000 chance of finding a new drug, that is why it's
:13:48. > :13:51.called the Valley of death. If the bridging fund gets ideas past that
:13:52. > :13:55.point there is a win in seven chance of a new drug which is way companies
:13:56. > :14:01.are willing to begin trials. The impact of the funds money has been
:14:02. > :14:06.felt by Doctor Sharon Hughes. Now of course there is an impetus on
:14:07. > :14:14.commercialisation and using what we generate on the lab. Without this
:14:15. > :14:18.funding certainly a lot of this would fall by the wayside. It's no
:14:19. > :14:22.exaggeration to say that antibiotic resistance is reaching crisis point.
:14:23. > :14:27.It's estimated 10 million people a year will die in future unless more
:14:28. > :14:30.new drugs are discovered but there is no incentive for companies to do
:14:31. > :14:34.that because it will cost a lot to make them while they will only be
:14:35. > :14:40.used when all other and to the ticks have failed. The ?3 million bridging
:14:41. > :14:42.fund is administered by the life sciences have with the investment
:14:43. > :14:49.coming from the Welsh Government. What is startling I imagine is that
:14:50. > :14:55.there has been no new class of and to the optics are 30 years. 1987 was
:14:56. > :15:01.when the first class was discovered and there has been no new discovery
:15:02. > :15:04.since then. It's partly because there is no incentive for companies
:15:05. > :15:09.to come in. The current jabs are cheap and work well in most patients
:15:10. > :15:15.but if you are one of the unfortunate patients they don't work
:15:16. > :15:19.for its a disaster. Ever increasing resistance to add to be optics
:15:20. > :15:22.means, infections could once again killed and some surgeries and
:15:23. > :15:26.treatments would be impossible and that is what researchers in Welsh
:15:27. > :15:29.life sciences sector are doing their best to prevent.
:15:30. > :15:31.Labour says its MPs will vote against UK Government plans
:15:32. > :15:34.to rewrite the devolution settlement unless they are radically changed.
:15:35. > :15:36.The shadow Welsh Secretary, Nia Griffith, said the draft
:15:37. > :15:38.Wales Bill would limit the powers of the Assembly.
:15:39. > :15:40.But the Secretary of State for Wales, Stephen Crabb,
:15:41. > :15:46.said criticism of the plans was "ill-informed and just plain wrong".
:15:47. > :15:49.The UK government has announced it will freeze a proposed ?400,000 cut
:15:50. > :15:51.to S4C's budget while an independent review of the channel
:15:52. > :15:56.The channel's chief executive and some Welsh MPs had called
:15:57. > :15:59.for an official assessment of its financial requirements
:16:00. > :16:05.A review of the Welsh language broadcaster's remit,
:16:06. > :16:12.governance and funding will happen in 2017.
:16:13. > :16:20.This allows us to have a digital model for the digital world. The
:16:21. > :16:27.original channel was set up in 1982 when we only had three channels. The
:16:28. > :16:30.world has moved on since then and this provides an opportunity for the
:16:31. > :16:33.independent sector in Wales, the Welsh speaking community and the
:16:34. > :16:34.English-speaking community to come together to provide channel that has
:16:35. > :16:37.got a vision for the future. Dwr Cymru Welsh Water has announced
:16:38. > :16:40.that household bills will remain The not-for-profit company says
:16:41. > :16:43.customers will pay an average Could the future of Welsh retail be
:16:44. > :16:50.in our town and city centres? Figures seen by BBC Wales show
:16:51. > :16:52.Newport city centre recently A quarter of a million people
:16:53. > :16:57.visited every week in December after the new "Friars Walk"
:16:58. > :16:59.shopping centre opened. Swansea has just announced plans
:17:00. > :17:02.to revamp its city centre and tens of millions visited
:17:03. > :17:04.Cardiff's Saint David's Two Part shopping centre
:17:05. > :17:21.and if the music's anything to go The crowds arrived
:17:22. > :17:26.in time for Christmas. We now have "footfall"
:17:27. > :17:33.figures for Christmas. They show an average of nearly
:17:34. > :17:36.a quarter of a million people visited the city centre
:17:37. > :17:40.each week in December. The highest figure
:17:41. > :17:43.for close to a decade. There was a near 3% drop
:17:44. > :17:58.across Wales between last December People are certainly coming back to
:17:59. > :17:59.the city centre. We are seeing an increasing number of other retailers
:18:00. > :18:03.in the city. Paul Gray's family have been
:18:04. > :18:05.in business in Newport They started selling candles
:18:06. > :18:08.in their Beechwood shop But since moving to Friars Walk his
:18:09. > :18:20.takings are up by 40%. Business has been superb since we
:18:21. > :18:24.opened. On the number of occasions we have been replenishing the start
:18:25. > :18:28.and as we're putting it on the shelves people are taking it off.
:18:29. > :18:31.These are the new half a billion pound plans for Swansea City centre
:18:32. > :18:35.Shops not seen outside of London are promised along with housing
:18:36. > :18:42.It all follows the success of Saint David's Two in Cardiff.
:18:43. > :18:44.So are we now seeing a trend away from this?
:18:45. > :18:48.We all know about the rise of online retail.
:18:49. > :18:51.But could relocating back to our town and city centres be part
:18:52. > :19:03.It feels as if people wanted experience and a varied experience
:19:04. > :19:08.where they have everything. Here we have the restaurants, the cinema,
:19:09. > :19:13.the shops, everything seemed to be in one place. City centre but is
:19:14. > :19:17.coming to the centre. It seems to be simpler for people.
:19:18. > :19:19.Newport and Swansea were recently named as low wage,
:19:20. > :19:22.Newport Council see these footfall figures as a sign
:19:23. > :19:27.Whether they've made an impression, certainly on the bank balances
:19:28. > :19:28.of independent traders, isn't yet known.
:19:29. > :19:31.But the figures will be welcome news for Newport and all those places
:19:32. > :19:33.investing in their town and city centres.
:19:34. > :19:35.With news of the Wales team to face Ireland
:19:36. > :19:41.Scarlets prop Rob Evans will start instead of the record cap
:19:42. > :19:45.He'll be on the bench for the game against the defending
:19:46. > :19:49.Despite playing just one game in two months,
:19:50. > :19:54.So too Gareth Anscombe at full-back, and Tom James will play almost six
:19:55. > :20:07.Head coach Warren Gatland said there is always trepidation about the
:20:08. > :20:11.opening game but he had no worries about picking a bold team for the
:20:12. > :20:16.trip to Ireland for a match against the defending champions. After six
:20:17. > :20:21.years away from the international stage, wing Tom James is back in
:20:22. > :20:25.Wales shirt to win his 10th cap. Reward for excelling for Cardiff
:20:26. > :20:30.Blues. And having spent a couple of seasons at Exeter Warren Gatland
:20:31. > :20:37.insisted time away from Wales had benefited him. He was in the Welsh
:20:38. > :20:44.goldfish bowl and he needed to get out and he went out and went to the
:20:45. > :20:50.premiership and played for Exeter. I think he has grown up and Michu
:20:51. > :20:53.would. Gareth Davies starts at scrum-half, Dan Biggar at number ten
:20:54. > :20:58.and Jonathan Davies returns from injury for the first time since last
:20:59. > :21:04.year's six Nations. He names -- he plays alongside Jamie Roberts.
:21:05. > :21:07.Cardiff Blues Gareth Anscombe makes his six Nations debut at full-back
:21:08. > :21:11.having started there in the last two World Cup games. In the Parc y
:21:12. > :21:17.Scarlets prop Rob Evans is preferred to Gethin Jenkins. With the record
:21:18. > :21:21.cap holder on the bench does it represent a changing of the guard?
:21:22. > :21:26.Possibly. He is a young player for the future and he's had a few caps
:21:27. > :21:31.and we have been impressed with this form for the Scarlets. He is joined
:21:32. > :21:33.by Scott pulled and Samson Lee in the front row. Luke Charteris and
:21:34. > :21:37.Alun Wyn Jones continue their partnership in the second row.
:21:38. > :21:43.Justin Tipuric starts the game at open side flanker with Captain Sam
:21:44. > :21:46.Warburton moving to blindside. He has played just one game in two
:21:47. > :21:50.months but insists he is ready for Sunday. I know what's coming so from
:21:51. > :21:56.that point of view my mind and body is ready for that. I will go as hard
:21:57. > :22:01.as I can and if I blow gasket that is why you've got the British Lions
:22:02. > :22:05.come off the bench. That lion is Dan Lydiate, part of an experienced
:22:06. > :22:10.bench. Wills' replacements have more than 350 caps between them. The
:22:11. > :22:13.Wales management hope they will make an impact in Dublin on Sunday.
:22:14. > :22:15.Swansea City midfielder Ki Sung Yeung is a doubt
:22:16. > :22:17.for Saturday's game at home to Crystal Palace
:22:18. > :22:20.The South Korean international replaced by Alberto Palosgi
:22:21. > :22:22.for his first appearance for the Swans.
:22:23. > :22:24.Gylfi Siggurdson scored the opening goal and Swansea were on course
:22:25. > :22:27.for victory until West Brom bundled home an equaliser deep
:22:28. > :22:49.When you concede so late is that the biggest disappointment? Yes because
:22:50. > :22:55.at the end we had a victory, but this is for all. Let's get a full
:22:56. > :23:01.check on the weather forecast now with Derek.
:23:02. > :23:05.Strong winds, rain and snow on some hills this morning.
:23:06. > :23:06.Less windy with some sunshine this afternoon.
:23:07. > :23:11.This warm front over Ireland is moving towards us.
:23:12. > :23:12.Bringing some rain and introducing milder, moister air
:23:13. > :23:17.This evening, a dry start bar the odd shower but rain will spread
:23:18. > :23:19.from the west later in the evening and overnight.
:23:20. > :23:22.A little snow on high ground for a time.
:23:23. > :23:25.Cold this evening but temperatures rising later in the night.
:23:26. > :23:30.Here's the picture for 8:00am in the morning.
:23:31. > :23:34.Much milder than today with a lot of cloud.
:23:35. > :23:39.Further south, some dry weather but with spots of drizzle.
:23:40. > :23:49.Patches of light rain and drizzle, especially on the hills
:23:50. > :23:55.Drier in the North East and the Marches with odd
:23:56. > :24:01.Top temperatures, 9C to 13C with a west to
:24:02. > :24:06.Tomorrow night, further pockets of rain and drizzle.
:24:07. > :24:08.Especially in the south and west and on the hills.
:24:09. > :24:11.Drier in the East and North East and a mild night.
:24:12. > :24:13.Friday will continue mild and breezy.
:24:14. > :24:16.Strong winds in the West and North West.
:24:17. > :24:19.Some rain and drizzle at times although Flintshire and Wrexham
:24:20. > :24:24.Friday night, a cold front will bring a short
:24:25. > :24:31.Saturday morning will be the best part of the day.
:24:32. > :24:34.Turning wet and windier during the afternoon.
:24:35. > :24:38.The wind and rain associated with this area of low pressure.
:24:39. > :24:42.We're not sure yet the exact track it will take.
:24:43. > :24:46.Sunday, breezy with sunshine and showers.
:24:47. > :24:50.More rain in the evening together with stronger winds.
:24:51. > :24:53.Sunday night and especially Monday, potentially very windy.
:24:54. > :24:56.Gales or severe gales with a risk of disruption.
:24:57. > :25:02.No warnings in force at the moment but that could change.
:25:03. > :25:21.A reminder of our top story. Carwyn Jones and David Cameron has been
:25:22. > :25:25.attacking each other to records on the NHS. The primaries to criticise
:25:26. > :25:28.waiting times in Wales, the First Minister attacked what he called the
:25:29. > :25:32.match confrontational philosophy in the English NHS.
:25:33. > :25:36.I'll have a quick update at 8:00am and a full round up after the BBC
:25:37. > :25:40.But from me, Derek, Tomos and everyone on the programme,