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:00:11. > :00:15.Thousands of steel workers wait to learn which bidders

:00:16. > :00:18.are in the frame to buy Tata's UK steel operations, as the deadline

:00:19. > :00:22.The lorry driver who collided with a crane on the M4,

:00:23. > :00:24.killing the other driver, escapes jail, after a plea

:00:25. > :00:32.He is going to have enough suffering, knowing full well,

:00:33. > :00:45.through his careless actions, he has called my father's death.

:00:46. > :00:49.After a meeting in Monde later this week, a short list of two or three

:00:50. > :00:51.bidders is expected. The companies involved have signed agreements not

:00:52. > :00:53.to disclose information. Two went public with their plans before that.

:00:54. > :00:55.Excalibur led by Stuart Wilkie is the management buyout team which

:00:56. > :00:57.would implement the turnaround plan to make Port Talbot profitable. That

:00:58. > :00:57.plan was rejected by That plan was rejected

:00:58. > :00:59.by to the drawing UK spy masters at GCHQ say they hope

:01:00. > :01:03.to find the next generation And, football manager Chris Coleman

:01:04. > :01:07.is rewarded for guiding Wales to Euro 2016 with an extension

:01:08. > :01:18.to his contract. The deadline for bidders for Tata's

:01:19. > :01:22.UK steel plants is closing today, with several companies having

:01:23. > :01:23.expressed an interest. The Indian business,

:01:24. > :01:25.which employs 7,000 people in Wales, has put its sites up for sale,

:01:26. > :01:28.including Port Talbot, Newport, Here's our business

:01:29. > :01:45.correspondent, Brian Meechan. Tata has made it clear no buyer has

:01:46. > :01:49.been allowed to reach this stage, unless it has been willing to take

:01:50. > :01:52.on Port Talbot which is making They're are eight potential bidders

:01:53. > :01:57.identified as interested parties. They include the newly formed

:01:58. > :02:00.Excalibur management buyout team headed by the senior Tata

:02:01. > :02:07.director Stuart Wilkie. Liberty Steel and Greybull Capital

:02:08. > :02:11.have both already bought smaller Wilbur Ross has also emerged

:02:12. > :02:28.as a potential buyer. Steel experts warn whoever takes

:02:29. > :02:42.over has a tough job. we don't want any more suffering

:02:43. > :02:46.through in the industry. Some commentators have captivated it

:02:47. > :02:48.could be up to 50% over at the moment, we have significant

:02:49. > :02:59.overcapacity in the industry. Some commentators have captivated it

:03:00. > :03:02.could be up to 50% of three bidders is expected.

:03:03. > :03:06.The companies have all signed agreements not to disclose

:03:07. > :03:10.information but two went public before that.

:03:11. > :03:14.Excalibur led by Stuart Wilkie is the management buyout team which

:03:15. > :03:20.would implement the turnaround plan to make Port Talbot profitable.

:03:21. > :03:24.That plan rejected by Tata. Liberty is another bidder, its boss plans to

:03:25. > :03:28.change production at Port Talbot from making steel from scratch, to

:03:29. > :03:39.recycling it. It aims to do both to make an

:03:40. > :03:40.industry internationally competitive in those circumstances is a

:03:41. > :03:43.challenge. After a meeting later this week, a

:03:44. > :03:45.short list of three bidders is expected. The companies have all

:03:46. > :03:47.signed agreements not to disclose information but two went public

:03:48. > :03:49.before that. Excalibur led by Stuart Wilkie is the management buyout team

:03:50. > :03:52.which would implement the turnaround plan to make Port Talbot profitable.

:03:53. > :03:54.That plan rejected by Tata. Liberty is another bidder, its boss plans to

:03:55. > :03:57.change production at Port Talbot from making steel from scratch, to

:03:58. > :03:59.recycling it. It aims to do both in the short term. Both have strengths

:04:00. > :04:03.and weaknesses. They could work more closely together in it is very good

:04:04. > :04:05.that we in their own way and it is a testament to the beards, they look

:04:06. > :04:07.very interesting all in their own way and it is a testament to of the

:04:08. > :04:10.workforce. Called on the idea of taking over

:04:11. > :04:13.the UK operation. The UK Government which is willing to take a 25% stake

:04:14. > :04:15.in the company with any new buyer says some are being put off by the

:04:16. > :04:17.pension deficit are reported to have called on the idea of taking over

:04:18. > :04:20.the UK operation. The UK Government which is willing

:04:21. > :04:23.to take a 25% stake in the company with any new buyer says some are

:04:24. > :04:26.being put off by the pension the Tata scheme has a huge shortfall

:04:27. > :04:27.which could go as high as ?4 billion.

:04:28. > :04:29.Ministers are in negotiations with the business to overcome the these

:04:30. > :04:32.days, it is common with deals going through, has a could scupper the

:04:33. > :04:36.deal. The deficit which could scupper the deal. The the is looking

:04:37. > :04:41.at it as a problem of the previous employer Tata is aiming for the sale

:04:42. > :04:45.to go ahead by the end of June, an ambitious timeline for this size of

:04:46. > :04:49.deal. Hopefully it provides more certainty

:04:50. > :04:50.for workers and the local community if they see the process

:04:51. > :05:01.moving forward Tata is aiming for the sale to go ahead by the end of

:05:02. > :05:02.June, an ambitious timeline for this size of deal.

:05:03. > :05:05.Hopefully it provides more certainty for workers and the local community

:05:06. > :05:07.if they see the process moving is the Business Secretary is heading

:05:08. > :05:12.out to Monday for discussions with Tata -- Is heading out to Monday for

:05:13. > :05:16.discussions with taking on those pension liabilities. There must be

:05:17. > :05:21.some way to deal with that. It could mean Tata putting more money in the

:05:22. > :05:26.pension scheme, or the workers and former workers at accepting the

:05:27. > :05:30.scheme will not reward them as much as they once thought. It could be

:05:31. > :05:33.about taxpayers playing a role, no company taking over this place will

:05:34. > :05:35.want to do it taking on those pension liabilities. There must be

:05:36. > :05:38.some way to deal with that. It could mean Tata putting more money in the

:05:39. > :05:41.pension scheme, or the workers and former workers accepting the scheme

:05:42. > :05:43.will not reward them as much as they once thought. It could be about

:05:44. > :05:45.taxpayers playing a a part in underwriting the scheme, or it's

:05:46. > :05:47.going into the pension protection can be maybe a combination.

:05:48. > :05:51.Something that will have to be sorted out before any deal can, and

:05:52. > :05:57.the concern is not sorting that out could scupper any and we think up to

:05:58. > :06:03.three companies will emerge as potential bidders and buyers for

:06:04. > :06:05.A lorry driver who collided with a crane on the M4,

:06:06. > :06:08.killing the other driver, has escaped jail, after a plea

:06:09. > :06:12.Tanker driver Carl Askew admitted causing the death

:06:13. > :06:18.However, Mr Coleman's widow asked that he be spared prison,

:06:19. > :06:20.because he did not intend to kill the grandfather-to-be.

:06:21. > :06:32.Rush-hour on the M4 in Cardiff on November 2nd last year.

:06:33. > :06:34.This traffic chaos following this collision on the

:06:35. > :06:38.A tanker collided with a mobile crane, sending the crane hurtling

:06:39. > :06:41.The crane driver, 50-year-old Michael Coleman, from

:06:42. > :06:44.The man responsible for his death, 46-year-old tanker driver

:06:45. > :06:46.Carl Askew, pleaded guilty to causing death

:06:47. > :06:53.However, Mr Askew walked free from Cardiff Crown Court,

:06:54. > :06:55.spared a possible jail term, after his victim's family asked

:06:56. > :07:03.In her victim impact statement, Michael Coman's partner

:07:04. > :07:06.Wendy Ann Randall said she did not bear malice to the driver.

:07:07. > :07:08.A sentence echoed by Mr Coleman's son.

:07:09. > :07:12.He is going to lose everything anyway.

:07:13. > :07:15.The idea is, to come from this, he is going to have enough

:07:16. > :07:17.suffering knowing full well, through his careless actions,

:07:18. > :07:24.We don't want any more suffering to come from that.

:07:25. > :07:26.My dad wouldn't want that, he would want him

:07:27. > :07:29.beyond the situation, to learn from the situation,

:07:30. > :07:32.move on and try to be happy, as we are trying to be

:07:33. > :07:36.It wouldn't make sense for us to want more to come from this.

:07:37. > :07:44.The judge, David Wynne Morgan, said Mr Coleman's family's wishes

:07:45. > :07:47.that Carl Askew should not face an immediate custodial sentence,

:07:48. > :07:49.was a remarkable act of generosity in circumstances,

:07:50. > :07:51.and it would be a hard-hearted court that failed to take

:07:52. > :07:55.The judge asked the court to take a moment for those who

:07:56. > :07:57.knew Michael Coleman, to reflect upon their loss.

:07:58. > :07:59.Mr Askew received a suspended sentence for causing death

:08:00. > :08:01.by careless driving, and was banned driving

:08:02. > :08:08.Nick Pallit BBC Wales Today, Cardiff Crown Court.

:08:09. > :08:10.What would the Welsh economy look like if Britain votes

:08:11. > :08:14.to leave the European Union in next month's referendum?

:08:15. > :08:16.According to the Chancellor, George Osborne, the value

:08:17. > :08:19.of your home could go down, and unemployment here could rise

:08:20. > :08:28.But his claims have been dismissed as scaremongering

:08:29. > :08:32.Our parliamentary correspondent, David Cornock, is in Westminster.

:08:33. > :08:38.David, how did the Chancellor do his sums?

:08:39. > :08:43.we expect there to be a board meeting in Monday on Wednesday and

:08:44. > :08:47.we think up to three companies will emerge as potential bidders and

:08:48. > :08:50.buyers for Tata what the Treasury has done here is to look at the

:08:51. > :08:55.possible impact of any vote to leave in next month's referendum.

:08:56. > :08:59.It argues such a vote would volatility in the economy that it

:09:00. > :09:05.would mean volatility in the economy that it would shrink, billions of

:09:06. > :09:10.pounds would be taken out of the Welsh economy. The value of your

:09:11. > :09:16.home could go down by ?20,000. And jobs would be lost right across the

:09:17. > :09:26.went into recession. The economy would shrink, billions of pounds

:09:27. > :09:29.Within two years, at least half-a-million jobs will be lost.

:09:30. > :09:34.Over 40,000 in Scotland, over 20,000 in Wales.

:09:35. > :09:35.Almost 15,000 jobs in Northern Ireland.

:09:36. > :09:37.In London, over 70,000 jobs will be lost.

:09:38. > :09:39.Here, across the south, almost 120,000 jobs will go.

:09:40. > :09:44.But the vote Leave campaign disputes those figures and the maths?

:09:45. > :09:48.Indeed. They are very sceptical. They point out that the Treasury

:09:49. > :09:52.doesn't always have the best record when it comes to economic but the

:09:53. > :09:55.boat Leave campaign disputes those figures and the maths? Indeed. They

:09:56. > :09:57.are very sceptical. They point out that the Treasury doesn't always

:09:58. > :10:08.have the best record when it comes to economic it is not a science.

:10:09. > :10:10.It is something of an art. But they are incensed at the way these have

:10:11. > :10:12.been presented today. The Vote Leave campaigners have accused George

:10:13. > :10:15.Osborne of the regional breakdown up, on the basis of is, frankly,

:10:16. > :10:20.made up, on the basis of an incredible we would be able to trade

:10:21. > :10:27.freely with the whole world we would be able to trade freely with the

:10:28. > :10:31.whole a week is also strongly it is fair to say that figure of ?350

:10:32. > :10:36.million a week is also strongly the remaining campaign says the net

:10:37. > :10:39.figure is less than half the referendum day.

:10:40. > :10:43.It is worth remembering it is exactly one month today that we go

:10:44. > :10:46.to the polls. The referendum will be held on June 20 that is an issue

:10:47. > :11:17.that will be debated between now and A research project looking

:11:18. > :11:19.at the impact of so-called legal highs has been launched by a drug

:11:20. > :11:22.support service in Denbighshire. A new law, banning

:11:23. > :11:23.the supply of drugs, The study, believed to be the first

:11:24. > :11:28.of its kind in Wales, will be run by the charity CAIS,

:11:29. > :11:30.with the aim of improving the help on offer for those

:11:31. > :11:39.who use the substances. Unions representing council workers

:11:40. > :11:41.say their members cannot continue It comes after the First Minister

:11:42. > :11:46.said he would have to rethink plans They have written to

:11:47. > :11:48.the Welsh Government, calling for urgent talks

:11:49. > :11:50.with the new Finance Here's our political editor,

:11:51. > :12:03.Nick Servini. So, it is back to the drawing board

:12:04. > :12:09.for cancel the organisation. -- So, it is back to the drawing

:12:10. > :12:16.board for council reorganisation. The previous Labour Government

:12:17. > :12:24.imposed a new local authority map While councils have been given

:12:25. > :12:45.the opportunity to come We studied the manifestos for the

:12:46. > :12:53.parties across we studied the manifestos for the short life, and

:12:54. > :12:56.consensus seems in a short Government, some councillors

:12:57. > :12:59.favoured the concept of a radical restructuring, others do there are

:13:00. > :13:01.very different views in local Government, some councillors

:13:02. > :13:07.favoured the concept of a radical restructuring, others do a vision

:13:08. > :13:11.for local Government. A vision now is the time to sit

:13:12. > :13:13.back, redefine the terms of the debate, look how we move forward,

:13:14. > :13:20.with a vision for local Government. A vision for public in the middle

:13:21. > :13:24.are the 130,000 council workers in Wales who have had to put up with

:13:25. > :13:28.uncertainty about their we are in a state of limbo.

:13:29. > :13:35.The workforce is anxious and fearful of the future. Their collaboration

:13:36. > :13:38.has ceased because they are waiting to see what local Government

:13:39. > :13:44.reorganisation will look like and what is in its place is a tendency

:13:45. > :13:49.of councils to outsource services. Services are becoming fragmented.

:13:50. > :13:55.Leighton Andrews tried to drive through change at County Hall is in

:13:56. > :14:03.an abrasive manner. Now, the man given the job, Mark

:14:04. > :14:07.Drakeford, cuts a more consulate tree figure. The question is whether

:14:08. > :14:12.it is remotely possible to get agreement on such a big subject like

:14:13. > :14:16.this, and then to take people with him.

:14:17. > :14:18.Much more to come before seven o'clock.

:14:19. > :14:22.Football manager Chris Coleman is rewarded for guiding Wales

:14:23. > :14:24.to Euro 2016 with an extension to his contract.

:14:25. > :14:27.And, a fairly quite week ahead, with plenty of dry weather.

:14:28. > :14:45.The body responsible for overseeing the environment in Wales has

:14:46. > :14:51.admitted a 95 page objection to draft plans for the proposed M4

:14:52. > :14:56.relief road. Environmental groups say it is a significant blow for the

:14:57. > :15:00.billion pound scheme. Let us have it work with our environment

:15:01. > :15:06.correspondent. What have natural resource is Wales had to say?

:15:07. > :15:12.They were responding to a public consultation into draft plans for

:15:13. > :15:18.the 14 mile, six lane motorway to the south of Newport aimed at easing

:15:19. > :15:21.congestion. As part of the consultation, the Government is

:15:22. > :15:24.prepared environmental statement is looking at how nature would be

:15:25. > :15:31.affected, what measures would deem to be put in place to mitigate those

:15:32. > :15:36.impacts. What natural resources Wales is saying, they say they can't

:15:37. > :15:41.support these plans with the specific concerns over species like

:15:42. > :15:48.otters, dormice, bats. The impact on sites of special interest. They are

:15:49. > :15:51.worried about flood risk. This is significant because the Welsh

:15:52. > :15:56.Government would need to apply to them for a range of licences in

:15:57. > :16:02.terms of the environment. Unless changes are made to those plans then

:16:03. > :16:06.it does not look like those permissions will be forthcoming. It

:16:07. > :16:12.is a significant challenge to the Welsh Government's view of itself as

:16:13. > :16:18.a sustainable deferment champion. N W I think this perhaps is not the

:16:19. > :16:25.most sustainable way of using those -- addressing this traffic problems.

:16:26. > :16:29.There will be a public inquiry as announced by Carwyn Jones.

:16:30. > :16:32.A multi-million pounds refurbishment has begun

:16:33. > :16:35.on the Elan Valley Aqueduct which has been carrying water

:16:36. > :16:37.from Powys to Birmingham for more than a century.

:16:38. > :16:40.It runs for more than 70 miles, and is the only source of water

:16:41. > :16:48.The work should be completed by 2019.

:16:49. > :16:51.The existing aqueduct is actually in pretty good condition,

:16:52. > :16:56.But, during our routine inspections, we have noted we do have some

:16:57. > :17:00.sections that are deteriorating, we do have some cracks.

:17:01. > :17:03.So, in a proactive approach, what we have got going on today,

:17:04. > :17:06.and the arrival of the tunnelling machine, is laying a new sectionm

:17:07. > :17:11.to run alongside the existing, that we can tie at on either end.

:17:12. > :17:15.But how do you stay one step ahead of the hackers?

:17:16. > :17:20.The UK's intelligence agency, GCHQ, is hoping to find

:17:21. > :17:22.the next generation of digital crime fighters,

:17:23. > :17:27.It's given its seal of approval for a computer forensics course run

:17:28. > :17:31.by the University Of South Wales, the only one of its kind

:17:32. > :17:33.in the UK that's been certified by the spy masters.

:17:34. > :17:42.Last year, two-and-a-half million of us in the UK fell

:17:43. > :17:47.Computer hacking also costs companies millions

:17:48. > :17:53.From mobile phones, to gaming consols, even the technolgy built

:17:54. > :17:55.into our cars, we're surrounded by devices that

:17:56. > :18:09.There are about six billion internet connected devices

:18:10. > :18:13.Each one of these leaves a digital fingerprint.

:18:14. > :18:21.That can tell us more about who is using them,

:18:22. > :18:24.And that's a potent source of information for security agencies

:18:25. > :18:26.who are trying to defend us against cyber crime.

:18:27. > :18:28.Today, the intelligence service GCHQ revealed that it was certifying just

:18:29. > :18:31.one university masters course in the UK for computer forensics.

:18:32. > :18:34.That course is here at the University Of South Wales.

:18:35. > :18:36.Students will be trained how to identify, recover,

:18:37. > :18:37.and analyse data from digital devices that have

:18:38. > :18:45.Experts believe that we'll need millions more personnel working

:18:46. > :18:49.on global cyber security over the next three years.

:18:50. > :18:58.And, at the moment, we're well short of that figure.

:18:59. > :19:04.in the market and not enough people to actually go

:19:05. > :19:14.It is a case of we don't have enough people on the ground to deal with

:19:15. > :19:24.While most cyber crime involves the theft of data and,

:19:25. > :19:26.ultimately, money, those same methods are used by terrorist

:19:27. > :19:29.So, students on the course will be performing forensics

:19:30. > :19:32.on the kind of technology that underpins our national

:19:33. > :19:35.This train set reveals a real-world scenario where hackers have

:19:36. > :19:37.targeted the rail network, precisely because many of these

:19:38. > :19:43.That has left them vulnerable to attack.

:19:44. > :19:46.If they are connected to more networks, then there are more entry

:19:47. > :19:51.Therefore there is more chance an attacker can get control.

:19:52. > :19:54.If cyber crime is a war, then cyber security is the new battlefront.

:19:55. > :19:57.And forensic skills like these will be vital if we stand any chance

:19:58. > :20:05.Sir Tom Jones will be making his first public appearance

:20:06. > :20:10.since the death of his wife at this year's Hay Festival in Powys.

:20:11. > :20:11.His childhood sweetheart, Lady Melinda Rose Woodward,

:20:12. > :20:14.known as Linda, died last month, after battling cancer.

:20:15. > :20:16.The singer will be discussing his autobiography at the annual

:20:17. > :20:29.Weeks before this summer's European Championships,

:20:30. > :20:32.Chris Coleman has agreed a new deal to stay on as Wales manager

:20:33. > :20:36.He said he was honoured and delighted to put pen to paper.

:20:37. > :20:38.His contract was about to end this summer.

:20:39. > :20:48.The deal brings to an end weeks of negotiations.

:20:49. > :20:49.After the uncertainty, confirmation today that

:20:50. > :20:50.Chris Coleman is staying, providing continuity

:20:51. > :20:58.But, reaching a deal was far from straightforward.

:20:59. > :21:01.There have been times I have come away from a certain meeting,

:21:02. > :21:07.really frustrated, thinking maybe this isn't going to happen.

:21:08. > :21:10.I am sure it is the same for the FAW, thinking

:21:11. > :21:18.But, the big test was, it went on for quite a while.

:21:19. > :21:23.But I think that tells you that both parties wanted to get it sorted out.

:21:24. > :21:24.His bosses, relieved that questions over Coleman's future

:21:25. > :21:31.It has been an unwelcome distraction.

:21:32. > :21:34.Speculation over the future of that man has been a sorry saga.

:21:35. > :21:44.Negotiations have been going on for months.

:21:45. > :21:47.Chris Coleman conceded today that talks had lasted longer

:21:48. > :21:49.Coleman wanted improvements made behind the scenes.

:21:50. > :21:51.Details of which were not shared with us today.

:21:52. > :21:53.There's expectations with the way we operate.

:21:54. > :21:56.Very important, we need continue to change, continue to evolve.

:21:57. > :21:59.We can't expect the same results by doing the same thing.

:22:00. > :22:02.We did that in the last campaign and were successful.

:22:03. > :22:08.We need to change again to ensure we have every best opportunity

:22:09. > :22:13.Coleman hopes that World Cup qualifying campaign will be better

:22:14. > :22:14.than his last, which included a heavy defeat

:22:15. > :22:26.For a man who lost his opening five games in charge,

:22:27. > :22:29.and the only Wales manager to do so, it has been a remarkable turnaround.

:22:30. > :22:31.Preparations for Euro 2016 continue tomorrow.

:22:32. > :22:33.The squad will fly out to the Algarve for a training camp.

:22:34. > :22:35.Coleman revealed the injured Joe Ledley will travel.

:22:36. > :22:38.He said the toughest decision will be whether to include him

:22:39. > :22:45.It will be whittled down to just 23 next Tuesday.

:22:46. > :22:49.The Commonwealth and double Olympic cycling champion Geraint Thomas has

:22:50. > :22:51.signed a two-year contract extension with Team Sky.

:22:52. > :22:54.The cyclist, from Cardiff, says he's staying so he can keep

:22:55. > :22:56.progressing, after winning the Paris-Nice road race in March.

:22:57. > :22:59.He's expected to be a part of Team Sky at the Tour

:23:00. > :23:19.Essex have built up a small lead on the second day of Beco championship

:23:20. > :23:21.match against Glamorgan. 300-9, a lead of 40, with one wicket

:23:22. > :23:31.remaining in the first innings. It has been a decent day, we can

:23:32. > :23:38.look forward to another sunny day tomorrow. Feeling warmer than today.

:23:39. > :23:44.Tonight, we still have a few showers especially across the south and

:23:45. > :23:49.east. After sunsets, it will become cold fairly quickly. The potential

:23:50. > :23:52.for some grass frost in the countryside with temperatures around

:23:53. > :23:56.three Celsius. High pressure remains in charge

:23:57. > :24:03.tomorrow, another fairly settled day. Clouds in the east today,

:24:04. > :24:08.tomorrow, more blue sky. A chilly start to Tuesday, the sunshine gets

:24:09. > :24:11.to work, pretty strong, temperatures recovering pretty quickly. By

:24:12. > :24:17.afternoon, the risk of isolated showers. Most of us getting away

:24:18. > :24:24.with a dry afternoon, in the sunshine feeling pleasantly warm, 18

:24:25. > :24:30.Celsius. The winds are light. Tomorrow night, some fine evening

:24:31. > :24:36.sunshine, showers will clear away. Overnight, clear skies, some cloud

:24:37. > :24:43.creeping into North East Wales. Further south and west, clear skies,

:24:44. > :24:50.temperatures down to sixth. We head into Wednesday, temperatures

:24:51. > :24:57.hanging on. Much cloudier on Wednesday. Feeling cooler. You will

:24:58. > :25:01.notice the difference. Clouds on Wednesday, brightness

:25:02. > :25:08.further west. The odd spot of light rain. Temperatures disappointing for

:25:09. > :25:14.the time of year, up to 14 Celsius. Winds remaining light. Friday,

:25:15. > :25:18.warmer conditions again. Mixed with sunshine and showers.

:25:19. > :25:22.Looking better for the weekend. The headlines. Several companies have

:25:23. > :25:30.expressed an interest in buying Tata steel in the UK, today is the

:25:31. > :25:31.deadline to submit bids. Excalibur and Liberty Stadium would be willing

:25:32. > :25:35.to work together. I'll have an update

:25:36. > :25:41.for you here at eight o'clock, From all of us on the programme,

:25:42. > :25:45.good evening,